Aaliyah Mohamed:What They Don’t Tell You About Dropping Out for Talent ||EP 80

In the studio today we’ve got Aaliyah Mohamed media personality, public figure, and a true force in the game.
We talk mainstream media, hosting the TRACE Awards and TMAs, handling public pressure, fashion, celebrity culture, and what it really takes to survive in entertainment and

Aaliyah questioned why most of the young generation think
“Pursuing your talent means quitting your education”

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Filmed by: Rocky the mutator & jordan
Edited by : sean81jax

Chapters;
00:00 Trailer
02:03 Intro
08:37 Behind the Scenes of the TMA(Tanzania music awards)
15:21 Aaliyah's 1st time on a Stage
19:08 How Aaliyah views Popularity
25:09 Behind the Scenes of The Trace awards in zanzibar
41:02 What Mainstream media means to Aaliyah
45:37 Aaliyah Hosting a Dating show
47:04 How important is money in a relationship 
53:00 Having a Private Lifestyle
55:53 Religion playing a Big part in relationships
57:35 How Aaliyah's & sean's DM's are like
59:34 Aaliyah's Fashion sense
01:01:39 Tzee or Not Tzee (NT game)
01:05:35 Celebrity culture affecting the Young Generation
01:17:19 Faith, Religion & God is what shapes people
01:20:48 After the break  
01:23:57 The No trolling Questions
01:44:20 Aaliyah's goal for 2026
01:46:30 Outro & Shout outs

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

Kama wem dotriakon kuwa mfanyabya shara. Walk on that. Kuna matu wana drop school. Just kua video vexes. Kunawatu na drop schools. Because you need nani ka kumbia, you have to drop school. Ili kueza ku ishika tika yo talentia ko nakuifanikisha. No, nili jifuza kwamba wada wengi wadogu. Wana fikla ya kwamba mahusiano ni wanome mwye pesa. Akunakiti kizuri kama pisayako. You know why? If you have your money, ha kunam tonezaka ku manipulate kw nya relationship. The celebrity culture yami tanda mone is you take over my shayako. Mtu yukora kakodi gari, iri appear to kunye event onekane like nimi shuka kunye g-wagon na nini babako.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Babango was that an insult?

SPEAKER_00 0:56

What was that nah? Nope. No trolling. We ain't trolling, y'all. Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

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SPEAKER_01 1:41

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SPEAKER_02 2:02

Yeah, it's a good it's a good drink.

SPEAKER_05 2:05

Sean, um yeah production.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

No, so it's just passionate.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Out of experience?

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Um, so basically, I've been learning with with time. You know, I started doing like editing TikTok videos and stuff. I started doing like um just edits for my content. I used to do edits for women actually. Yeah, like so basically had this I had a challenge where I I I DM beautiful girls when I see. Pretty I used to call them uh finest black queens. So basically, um I DM you. I'm like, yo, can I get your uh video of you looking cute, looking hot? And I wanna put you in my edit. There were a trend back then, in like early in 2020 before Corona. Yeah, so when I was like, So they'll send what they sent? They sent girls sent. You know, my generation, they used to send. They'll they'll back then. Um when you tell a girl, can I get a video of you looking good? I want to put you in a video, oh, they're excited about it. So I was like, okay, cool. So I used to get girls and then I edit, I put some fire background music, and I they just switching up. One, two, three. I was just reading finest black queens. It was dope. Well, why did you ask me that question?

SPEAKER_05 3:22

No, say we like go call Makini Sano. I wish your audience think it could know now how much you're into the production.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

I I feel like they know. Because usually I like them, I like to keep them posted in in um in behind-the-scenes content. And okay, they might not know the full Sean mode work type vibe, but um they get to see how dedicated I am. And that's why you think they're they love the show.

SPEAKER_05 3:53

A round of applause.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Round of applause. Oh, yeah, guys, guys, Aliyah, welcome to the No Trolling Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Why do you why do you sigh like that? Like, huh? Like, what's up, what's up? I'm not kidding me.

SPEAKER_05 4:08

I'm happy to be here.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Why are you happy, if I may ask?

SPEAKER_05 4:13

I am happy to be here. I mean, I'm here, you know, not only as a guest, but support my friend.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, you hear that, guys? We're we're good friends.

unknown 4:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yeah, I I usually, this is this is a protocol for all my content. I feel like with every guest I have, I I do make time to spend time with them, you know, get to know them a little bit. So they can't be that nervous. They shouldn't be that nervous when we're doing the show. I feel like it it has made the show more authentic, more vibey, and more real. Because the podcast or the the company stands for authenticity and community base. Okay, yeah, that's the proper definition. I I'm uh I'm acquainted with people, but not everybody's my friend.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Yeah, I I like to um keep uh there's a fine line between friendship and people who are um acquainted with.

SPEAKER_05 5:13

No, I say that because um Kama Una tengeniza that bond before your guest or meaning, you know.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. We we there's a friendship that is built. Yes, you're completely right. Do you like traveling?

SPEAKER_05 5:29

I do. Oh yeah?

unknown 5:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

I do. Some people don't like traveling, actually.

SPEAKER_05 5:36

Really?

SPEAKER_02 5:37

Yeah, I'm usually surprised when people don't like it.

SPEAKER_05 5:39

I do love traveling. Ila na kusaga mudar. That's the thing. And money.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

And money. Yeah, we need that for traveling.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

We need that.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

We need that for sure.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

Of course, because okay, Udeza Kapatella I could travel, but you just can't travel and do nothing, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:00

True though.

unknown 6:00

True.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Yeah, you need to explore places, get to know the culture, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:04

The culture, the food.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Okay, where's where's somewhere you've been you were so intrigued about? Like it got you thinking like, damn, this is actually fire. What do you think? Nothing nothing clicks.

SPEAKER_05 6:27

I don't know. Okay, the places are beautiful. It's not come back up by Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Yeah, oh damn.

SPEAKER_05 6:42

No, honestly. It's all good though. Yeah, it's all good. Um what's your favorite place about share?

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Kenya.

SPEAKER_05 6:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Yeah, I loved Kenya, man. I like I love the weather, I love the energy of the people there. I love the creative scene there. I love how people are just exposed compared to here.

SPEAKER_05 7:08

Okay. So Kenya was a wow factor.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

It was uh it was a wow factor, actually. It's uh it's uh it's a beautiful city. I I went to Nairobi to be specific. It's a beautiful city to me, and I I fuck with it honestly.

SPEAKER_05 7:22

It is. You ever been to Mombasa?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Oh, I think uh that's my next stop when I go back, if I do have time, because when I go back, it's just work.

SPEAKER_05 7:29

It's beautiful there.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

Oh, yeah? I feel like it resembles duh, no?

SPEAKER_05 7:34

No, sort of um zanzibar.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Zanzibar, okay. Makes sense, makes sense, makes sense, makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 7:41

It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Mombasa.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

Yep. Mombasa raha guys, guys, guys.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Uh, this is episode 80. Yeah, it's the second episode of the year. Happy New Year again, no trollers. Our audience are called no trollers, by the way. No trollers, yeah. No trollers. So say say hi to the no trollers.

SPEAKER_05 8:02

Hey, hi, no trollers.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Yeah, yeah, excited.

SPEAKER_05 8:04

Okay to be here.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Yeah, in the studio today, we got a beautiful Black Queen, you know. Uh, she's a media presenter, she's a host public figure, man. Come on, she's been on stages just doing her thing, man. She's just walked on big stages, man. From Trace Awards and Danzba and the Tanzania Music Award. That was the first time to happen in Tanzania under BET and MTP Bass, man. You were killing it that day.

SPEAKER_05 8:29

I was.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah, come on, I saw you. You look good. Your dress was spectacular, man. I ain't gonna lie. But I do I'm actually curious, and uh, I want to talk about the behind the scenes of TMA because I when I had Idris on the other time, she was talking about uh Ali was so nervous. She was mad at me making making jokes, she was mad at Omie for being too sarcastic on stage and not like being on time with things. It was just a funny experience, and I was like, wow, I was wow. But yeah, I'm I'm I'm just curious to talk about that actually.

SPEAKER_05 9:02

Uh it was it was good.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

How was it? Like, how were you feeling uh when you got the gig? Like, boom. How did the people take you, your fans, and everything?

SPEAKER_05 9:14

Well, um Kwanzaa, it was it happened so I don't know, it happened so fast. Oh yeah? Siku tegimea. You know why? Yeah because I just proposed, I was the one who proposed um the idea kwa seven. You know seven, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

I rock seven. Seven.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

Yeah, Madam Seven. Oh, who's that? Kwene, kun ye, kwenye industry, na ame manage, wasani, kama ali kiba, yeah, omidimpos. Like she's been there. Okay. Um ye kamati ya TMA. You get it? So Wali kunja for interview na money kiti wakamati na interview ya TMA awards Vila Taenda and all that. You get it? And na kumburi manda is an interview in fata. And I was like, I would really love to host.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

Yeah. Just like a joke.

SPEAKER_05 10:26

Yes. And then Akademia, um, I'll get back to you because I will play wanna plan yao, you know, because I will be the MTV, mostica na nini. So wanna plan zao na nini. Yeah. But I'll find a spot for you. I talk on your red carpet. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_05 10:42

I was like, all right, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:45

It's you're you know, I was just trying nini yango.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

My whatever, like, what was the hardest thing or something that happened that you didn't expect to happen there? Something that happened that you didn't expect to happen. Something happened, or like yo, I didn't see that coming.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Oh my god, wait, lambda blunderza Idris, because blunder is an Idris. Oh my god, what is going on? Because one moment we're on stage, the next thing you know, Idris. You go audience cool, hyping watu, and oh, and attention divided, sis, you know? Some of the audience wako focused cool, and some wako huko and we are in a record in the condition on B E T and MTV. Like we are live.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

Yeah, but that's crowd work.

SPEAKER_05 11:37

I know, but then I didn't see that coming.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

So I was like, Whoa, so you know, the best I feel like the best way to do that is of course there's a script to follow, but you improvise, you know. You know, like just navigate, try to wear the, you know. Because one thing I've realized about events, production, and these things, nothing ever goes exactly as planned.

SPEAKER_05 12:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:06

So anyway, like in the hai kuambaya at the end of the day, but we did our part. Um, by the way, um, you and you should have a lot of negative comments from the audience Instagram na me tandaoni, and everybody was like, yeah, hosts woman disappoint nani. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

But people are always talking though.

SPEAKER_05 12:32

People are always talking. Like ine, hai nyawegu to kya kwangu, ni mefanyakazi i kinda to that extent. Okay. Combine me kwasasani madowtuana fanyadi interview and Eliza, you know, how embarrassing it was.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

I mean, it was a big event for Tanzania.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

It was.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

That's why I think people were so keen to being critics on the event. I feel like when what you you remember how Zanziba was? Like after the event, everybody was talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 13:00

I know, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

So wait, what was the biggest like pressure you felt? What what's something you were you felt pressure to do? Like the biggest pressure on boy in a nervous state.

SPEAKER_05 13:13

On that event?

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:16

The pressure. Okay, mimi kuni kaza pressure in a quaga. The intro.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

The intro.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

The intro.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Breaking the ice.

SPEAKER_05 13:28

Breaking the ice.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Yeah, I see that. You know? I see that.

SPEAKER_05 13:42

But everybody is there. And you don't want to be the disappointment of the night. But also, the precious idea could ya kwamba eco-recorded na B E T and MTV. People are watching, yeah. People are watching worldwide.

unknown 13:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

So Do you have something to prepare yourself for stage, being on stage like that? You have a trick like you do that prepares you to be on stage?

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Okay, we had rehearsals, but personally, Kenyu Lisa, I my phone, Nina, Kwanya knots.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:22

Who I knew from the beginning, Nachonge, I write everything. Oh my god, Alien. I'm sorry, I write everything. Whoa. I write everything. And guess what? Nasa How King.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

Keep it too. Yeah, because I feel like when it comes to being on stage, you just write the point and then you learn to improvise.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

That's your way of life.

unknown 14:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Your way is writing and forgetting it and being on stage, right?

SPEAKER_05 14:51

And being on stage. No, like active. So you don't leo, and okay. So rather than Nikiwa to Nimeka Kimia, Nasubiri to Stephanie Kitu, Nasubiri show, if any like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Pressure.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

Yeah. But then Nikki Gienda and Andy Karapitia, even if Nikki's mama on stage, kill it wina disappear, but I'm like I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

I'm chill, I'm good. Do you remember the first time you was on stage? Very first time.

SPEAKER_05 15:25

On stage the first time.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Yes. When was it?

SPEAKER_05 15:32

Um on stage, yeah, wasafi festival 2018.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 15:46

Our very first wasafi festival.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

Yeah. And Nidi Panda on stage Na Jonido.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Johnito.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

You know Johnito?

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Was that an insult? Or was that I didn't get that? Tell me who is this nigga? Is this a girl or a boy?

SPEAKER_05 16:15

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

Sounds like a guy's name.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

Yes, Johnito. You don't know Johnito.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Give me Johnito. Give me another like a name. His name.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

He don't have any other name. His nickname is Babako.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Babako.

SPEAKER_05 16:29

Yes, you don't know Mtangazadi. So I need to Babako. Johnijo.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

The name sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

Somebody please. I'm not saying on Instagram. Come on. Okay. Search Johnito.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Okay, Pali knows the face. You don't know Johnito. Pali know how do you even spell Johnito?

SPEAKER_05 16:44

J-O.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

J-O.

SPEAKER_05 16:46

N-I. N-I. J.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

J.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

Whether it's double or or or triple or Johnito.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Oh. Johnito. Uh, I've never seen this guy. No, I don't know this guy. Is he a legend? He has uh he has a million followers. Yeah, he's probably he's a big guy. Shout out to you, Johnny Joe. Nice to finally meet you indirectly. Yeah, keep going, Johnny Joe. Don't do that. Don't judge me.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Yeah. Okay. We listen. We don't judge.

SPEAKER_05 17:21

But we laugh. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

For sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_05 17:24

So Nili Pana na Johnny Jo on stage. It was a quamtuara. It was the most awkward thing ever. That was my first time. And mind you, there is a difference. Katia the shows stadium shows.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Okay. So festivals.

SPEAKER_05 17:46

Na um like like corporate show. Okay. Kama easy awards. Nanny. You know, there's there's a difference.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

It was a festival.

SPEAKER_05 17:55

So you're on stage, you need to shout. You need to come back. Oh, that's your boy.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Do you like usually say, yo, it's your girl, Aliya? Touch it. What do you say?

SPEAKER_05 18:10

Trust me.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

You don't want it. And he lay out this week. They're looking at me like.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Who's this shorty meaning?

SPEAKER_05 18:19

Oh, the face.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

I don't gotta understand.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

Like, do they tell you a sunny way? We don't need to see your ugly face. Get the hell. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

You can say whatever, but she's not ugly. Now they can say whatever, but she's not ugly. Look at her face, gang. Come on. Come on.

SPEAKER_05 18:39

So, illiqua, ilikwam baya too. It was, it was bad. I remember nearly dropped down on stage and I was like, I'm never going back there. Up there. I'm never going back. Now kumbuka, my boss nearly was like, wait, like you have to get used.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

Do you like being popular? No, honestly no. Why?

SPEAKER_05 19:15

Okay, so Kunambili. So I would say no and I'll say half no, half yes. No, why? Or whatever. No, because I hate the tension, man.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Oh, they're they're a public eye looking at you all the time.

SPEAKER_05 19:35

I hate.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 19:36

I hate um the Instagram shit. Going on, the comments, the conversation. You talk like you know me. You not even my mama.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 19:49

I hate it. I hate it. No, really, C C C but elegant. But I'm pretty sure that about fame.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Yeah, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

But when it comes to mullah, making money.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

The advantages of you're skipping the line. Oh, you're Ali.

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Oh my god, no, no, you don't have to be on the line, yeah. The benefits Yeah, the the benefits some places una kuwa important kidogun. Okay. Una kua high status. Yeah, people wanna co prioritize kidogo. But then ikija with the negativity, I'm like.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

But I'm pretty sure you've built some sort of muscle to deal with like negativity on the internet. No? You still you still uh look at me. You still children?

SPEAKER_05 20:35

Do I look like I give a shit?

SPEAKER_02 20:38

You don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

I don't baggie.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

You exactly, exactly. That's the vibe, that's the vibe.

SPEAKER_05 20:45

I don't care, bro.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

That's so good though. But I feel like for me, even for me, um, on the side of negativity on the internet, I feel like I've been managing it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 20:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

I've been doing alright.

SPEAKER_05 20:55

Though at first in a quango.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Of course. At first, uh if you feel like, why do people hate me? You know? You're like, why do you hate me? What did I do to you? You know what I mean? But um, as you keep on going, you realize these people don't know you. These people feel entitled to know you because you uh of what you do, maybe. You know, a lot of people tend to have this uh character of knowing what you do.

SPEAKER_05 21:20

Yeah. One thing I woke say, Larry, ni, you know, some people they go beyond and create a fake account just to, you know, throw shade.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Oh. Yeah, nih, but that's like that's 2020, 2021 time.

SPEAKER_05 21:41

Yeah, and like because just so you know, when you throw shades that go, some of us to nafung your profile, and we're like, okay. So like, why would you even do that?

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Yeah, I I I um I feel like some people just have. A lot of time on their hands.

SPEAKER_05 22:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Yeah. So when you have a lot of time in your hands, you start making dumb shit or some dumb decisions. So when I say not gonna idle mine is a devil's workshop. No, of course. If somebody's busy doing their own shit, working hard, they wouldn't have time to throw shade.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

Yeah, and who are gonna you was like uh that I'm like but but the thing is uh no shade to my haters, man.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I love my haters. You know, they they're always talking about me, and that's good publicity. But actually, there's no bad publicity, actually. Good or bad.

SPEAKER_05 22:34

Yeah, like you still until when it's just a nikikawa family, like and and trust me, Alia.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

As bad as being unless you've done a mistake for real, that's bad publicity. Because if you haven't done any anything wrong and people just talking bad about you, that's also good publicity.

SPEAKER_05 22:56

No, but you know, Sean Oshan kwambia familiazeto.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:07

You know, like our family wakumbali.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:12

Umakwaga kama in zakwagwali. What are you doing? Yeah. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not, maybe it's this, maybe it's that. And the relatives, na the friends, na what you are when you could say dear code, here's what you know what one thing I've even told my parents.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Like I even sat down with them. I remember telling them that um guys, do you love me? Do you trust me? Yeah, with this line of work, people are going to come for me. They're going to say stuff about me, they're going to do stuff just to compromise my career and my name. And I told them that if you ever feel like you felt doubt in you've doubt if you felt like you're starting to doubt me, please call me. I'll come, we'll talk about whatever you're worried about. But I told them, never believe the internet. What I do online is my work. And what people say, people will always say stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

You'll always say.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

And the thing is, the first time I got backlashed on something, I don't want to talk about it, but uh I told my mom, and my mom was like, son, they don't know you. I know you, and I know you're not that person, so don't worry about it. I was like, yo, my mom gave me a go ahead. Y'all nigga don't mean shit. Oh, yeah. For sure. For real. And sometimes haters have just misconceptions. I've met people who came to me, of course, they were a little bit tipsy and drunk, I think. And they're like, Sean, I used to like you, then I hated you. Then now I like you again. And I'm like, so apparently haters sometimes turn into fans and people who love your work.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

Actually, most haters are fans. Technically, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Okay, let's talk about Zanzi Ball. I was there too, actually. Guys, I was the red carpet with Trace Awards. So it was an amazing experience. A lot of people so knew me from that as well. A lot of my new followers came from that event as well. Shout out to iRock and Trace. Uh, I always have a good time working with them. So on my side, the public interview. First of all, let since we were both there, the schedule was fucked. Honestly, it was. I remember I only I didn't shower that day. What? No, wait, listen, listen, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me explain. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I didn't shower. Listen, I showered when I left the crib. Um made a sakumi. No, no, no, no, no. I was supposed to go back and and um like go check the setup, get uh see the stage, then go back and shower, then come back fresh. Sakuminambirium the time. I said, I was looking for everything, just trying to like adjust get to know some of the crew I'm gonna be working with. Uh-huh. The time flew. Now it's already 5 p.m. and I haven't showered. I I told them, yo, I want to go go catch a shower real quick and come back. And yo, there's no time. We bought your suitcase. Guys, guys, man. So I didn't have. So what I did was I had a towel on my suitcase. Oh. I went to the bathroom. I paid, I paid, I paid, um, who did I pay? I paid the worker there, the lady there. And she was like, oh, you can't shower in here, oh you can't. I'm like, ma'am, I got 10k right now. Take that. Please, please watch the door while I at least sponge myself for some seconds. For like for like a couple minutes. Let me freshen up. So I did freshen up. SpongeBath. You know what that is, guys? SpongeBath. That's the word. Yeah. So piggya passe. I paid that woman 10k. I freshened up. I was actually smelling good. And then I went, I walked the stage. I did the the interviews. I did a lot of interviews, but they were posted, a few were posted. Usually that's how it goes with good carpet. But the experience of talking with different people, that was exceptional. That was amazing. But it was everybody was. I remember when I was um, I had I interviewed um I think uh Diamond uh De Banche. I interviewed uh this this Joshua Baraka, Bien, Bien. Some of the people I remember, yeah, those are the like male artists I remember. And whenever they used to bring an artist, it's like, oh, Diamond is coming, Diamond's coming, oh Bien is coming. I'm like, guys, calm down. Yeah, they're the ones who are like panicking. And I'm like, guys, I'm the one here doing the interviews. Relax. Yeah, like I know what I'm doing. And whenever I'm doing public interviews, I like to be chill, be a vibe. I don't use like, oh, but um, you know how people put a voice? Yeah, but I don't put a voice. The way I talk to you right now, the way I talk to my friends, that's how I talk to everybody I interview with.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

It makes it feel more natural and more vibe, like, oh damn, okay, he's just a homie.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

So yeah, that's I feel like that's me. But it was experience, yeah. It was a good experience. I ain't gonna lie. Then when I I was done with the with the public interviews, I went to down to the stage, but I was already late to the stage. So what went down on the stage of the Trace Awards?

SPEAKER_05 29:01

What went down?

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah, what went down. I remember you came early to the hotels. Were you staying in the hotels?

SPEAKER_05 29:07

Yeah, I was.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

How was it?

SPEAKER_05 29:08

It was beautiful. Yeah. And I saw you doing public interviews a little bit with people there, with your fellow host, we were actually um streaming live uh the radio show. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we were doing interviews with artists, you know, but from Tanzania and other countries. So it was good. It was Sam.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

What what?

SPEAKER_05 29:37

Tender. What happened? That show I remember a few minutes before hitting the stage. I was super nervous. Whoa. I was super nervous that I cried. What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Why did you cry?

SPEAKER_05 29:54

Because I was nervous.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

Okay, yeah, yeah. Like what made you like to the nervous to the point of crying?

SPEAKER_05 30:00

I didn't want to disappoint.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

Yeah, it was a big deal.

SPEAKER_05 30:05

Disappoint myself.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Africa was there.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

And take advantage of this, you know.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Amazing opportunity.

SPEAKER_05 30:12

Amazing opportunity. And siku and atakayo. But also.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

You're such an overthinker, man.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:21

Okay, my friends if I'm watching this. Yeah. So be like, Yeah. Yeah, she's you got it. Anyways, yeah, I'm such an overthinker. But any mimi, Niko na I'm naught sana who wanna ho fiya sana failure.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Damn.

SPEAKER_05 30:38

That's that's one problem about me. I'm working on it. Please do. I am. I'm working on it. Um, so niki pewaka, I I don't want to fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

That's good, that's a good mentality you have. That you this thing I've learned that usizoe kazi. Always put respect on your on your work. And okay, your nervousness, that means you respect your work. And you don't want to fuck up. It's okay not to want to.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

Yeah, but fuck ups make you successful.

SPEAKER_05 31:09

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

From lows, there's highs. You don't get highs just from highs. I mean you can't. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 31:14

Nah, yeah, like any. I do want to embarrass myself on such a moment.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

It comes with the job, Alia though.

SPEAKER_05 31:24

Bro, it's D-Bunja. I'm hosting along D-Bunge.

unknown 31:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:30

But also, it's the trace award. So Africa Ikoapu inatizama. By the way, shout outs to Seven Moshe once again. Yeah. Because after the TMA, Nikam. Okay. Shout outs to Seven Moshe and Omi Dimpus.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Okay, shout out to them.

SPEAKER_05 31:49

Yeah, shout outs to them. Because Omi Ali Changia Sana Mimi ku kwa proposed ku host TMA.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Yeah, recommendation.

SPEAKER_05 31:58

Yeah, Ali ni recommend sana. Okay. Kwa kwa seven. And even after that, I can recommend Pia Kw nyo pandi wa trace. Pia alini yambia mimi. Kumba, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 32:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:08

You should do this. Yeah, you should go ahead. Hey, kwani ni, cause ali ni bea siri, like, there's this happening next year. So kwadiniu si I'm siri.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just ex you don't have to do that. You don't have to do like I have to do that.

SPEAKER_05 32:29

No, I have to do that. Cause that's in dog. I mean, we are siri. Like, like, I mean, okay, how do I say that?

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Let me guess, let me guess. That means like he uh he told you a secret. Yeah. Okay. He did. What the fuck? Okay, I'm pretty sure it's not literally a meniba.

SPEAKER_05 32:52

Not come by, but then okay, whatever. Aline, I'm aline alert my pema. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Exclusive information.

SPEAKER_05 32:59

Yeah, exclusive information. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:03

Yeah, so I can I can't laser could uh ev kuna trace next year. So since seven, Taiwan was walk or you can come on be a tener about it. Yeah, and um I was like, okay, this is Trace Awards. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Trace awards.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

Uh-huh. Yeah, I was nervous. So Nika Mweleza 7, and she was so impressed. She was like, uh napend that seeker. How Subir na fashion is a kufate, like you know you are dara, yeah. Come on, Avasima. So yeah, um, so could I couple could I name some bazoopos or take up for an interview and all that? And bro, the next thing you know, she came again our radio show, The Switch. And one of the questions, by the way, Alo Lisa, it's like, who are the hosts? And she was like, Oh, it's D Banch and Aliyah.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

She sup she surprised you.

SPEAKER_05 34:17

She did. Whoa. I pinned that, I pinned that interview on my Instagram page.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

I remember that. I thought they were just congratulating you there.

SPEAKER_05 34:27

No, it was a surprise. I was like, What?

SPEAKER_02 34:30

Yo, you know, that's amazing. It was lovely.

SPEAKER_05 34:33

So shout outs to seven Mosha.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

She sounds like an amazing person. She is. Cheers.

SPEAKER_05 34:39

Anyway, so back on your show, yeah?

SPEAKER_00 34:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:43

I was nervous, bro. It's the bench, but also a lot of these how you eat team production, the directors, the producers, the script writers, and all that. But also, um, I think that was my first biggest show that I've ever hosted.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

Whereas Pia Nilona Utofautim Kuba Sana, yeah, Pia Nili Yifunza Vingi, you know, they script yeah, kila kitu.

unknown 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

Like, if you pose, you've got a pose. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

There's a pose there. You gotta pose.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

There's a pose there. Okay. You've got to pose.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

I remember I read through them too. Yeah. You know, right? Uh microphones and stuff like that. Yeah. Earphones, earpieces.

SPEAKER_05 35:35

The earpieces, the director tells you what you tells you what to do. And at you know, it's like, hello, what are you doing?

unknown 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:50

Step by step. Killa kitu.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

That's um, yeah, that's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

Which to me, it ilkwanzuri sana. Imagine before, because before I had to jan on stage to lead to the um what do they call?

SPEAKER_02 36:04

The the like a whole protocol, like the the the the script. The script of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 36:09

Of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

Yeah. Na kila moja lipoma. Of course you could you could your words, na nini, but easy, easy CH. You know, easy in the basics. So they wanna hear you speak. You know, you're hosting. Yeah. They wanna hear you do that.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Right then then.

SPEAKER_05 36:29

Apple apple. So, yeah, now let's say ukiyo nggiara karaga, slow down. Yeah, ni, student like I was amazed, to be honest. And I experienced Trace Awards. And evil stage, and that was it.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

I was actually sad that they didn't counter the ocean tides, man.

SPEAKER_05 37:02

That's the only place I'm born afkiri kwiny, the whole show. Yeah. You know, part and bay kuwa muhim sana, but also part and bayo il disappoint wa tuengi sana. You know, because even the wind. Even the wind. Because the wind bea ilikwa, for example, kama uko on stage. For the the artist, nbowa naimba, I was the host mbo t nonggea, ama wana ugawa tuzo ale.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

So, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

When you speak, the wind, ikiwanzito, the people hawaku ski. So you have to know how to balance your voice, na na microphone, na the wind. Yeah, it was crazy to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

I think it was a it was a very hectic but also amazing show.

SPEAKER_05 37:46

Yeah. The idea the show by the beach was like spectacular.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

But but the beach is unpredictable, man. Bro. Especially if I feel like if they started on time, maybe they would have had a good chance with it.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

Yeah. Yes. Because the time Tulians are very late.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

Very late. I remember very late. Even the the red cup interviews, Nakumbuka, I guess, everybody was trying to make an interest.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

It was a it was a flex fest down there, but everybody was flexing on everybody. I know, right? Whoa! It was a flex fest. Like everybody was flexing me and I was like, damn, it's like that.

SPEAKER_05 38:32

So now let me tell you, Changamoto ni liu kwani me pata. Okay. So mind you, um to natoka dar to zanzibar, yeah, all the way, all this time seen an idea in the venue. But in my head, yeah, na picture, you know, ni holy to nafanya. I mean something like, you know, like a dom or any. Yeah, you get it. Yeah, yeah. Sort of.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 39:02

And then to Kafika, and you la tukyo. And when I'm to nafanya show by the bitch.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:13

I got my hair on.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Yeah, you your hair's done and everything.

SPEAKER_05 39:18

No, ngwa nio beba, see your bitch. Um, see your venue, your bitch. Like, everything.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

So they're panicking.

SPEAKER_05 39:29

I was like, what? Susan Takoni Fanya Nini. And you know, uh the venue ilkwani n'ba n Bali kidogo na town. So But also time ilko, you know, sikuzaku fanya chichote, but I was like, okay, we'll just improvise. Yeah, no problem.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Damn, it was such a good experience. I actually enjoyed that trip. It was a little bit of um, it was good seeing people like all in one place and just having the chance to connect with everybody, you know.

SPEAKER_05 40:00

But you know, shout outs to the team, Pia, your trace, by the way, because Walikwa's so understanding, uh Walikwa calm, you know. You know, correct you and make sure a straight path. Like, do you get it? Like are you?

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Yes, we're good. Okay. From the meetings to the stage, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 40:31

I remember we even when I worked with Trace, they were like, Sean, you're such you're so good. Like, do you do this a lot? I'm like, I mean, I I no, not a lot, but uh, I'm alright, I guess, you know? Oh yeah. Like for some reason I I suck at taking compliments, but I'm working on it. Just owning that I'm Why? I don't know, man. I just What do you mean you suck? At taking compliments. Like, whenever somebody compliments me, I'm like, oh, okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 40:56

It's a bit awkward.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:58

It gets awkward.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Yeah, it does, but you know, like you've been in the mainstream industry for the longest, man. What does mainstream media mean to you?

SPEAKER_05 41:09

Mainstream media. Okay. So for me, um, I'm grateful, Kwanzaa. Because as much as technology right now, it is to elevate when it comes to the technology and all that. Now, kuna video can be podcast nanini. But back then, so ka my kwekola gini your idea ikua sana. So the media ni fikisha happen.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

It raised you.

SPEAKER_05 41:49

Yeah, it raised me, it trained me. So fika leo. So the main mainstream media itabaki pale pale.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:59

Soon a loa. But also um kiri kwa the upcoming generation, yabokuna watu wambbawa wa nawana kama the gen zana kama sa if you wanazi mani kifanya journalism, so lazi mani and nika wompekazi you happy. You know, neza nika. But you know the struggle. Ha wam ki to singizinu kasema, I wanna do this, na o kafanya.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

Wam ki usingizini guess. Of course.

SPEAKER_05 42:28

You don't wake up and one thing, nateka ni se me, not everybody an ezakawa a content creator. I'm sorry. Yeah, true. Yeah. Shua kidamtu an ezakawa content creator. No, I'm saying this, kasababu nime kuchana nawatu wengi sana. Amba wana chikule life very simple right now. As long as I have an iPhone, boom, kwa, neza nika, weka tu nika recordinawa hivio. Kwevo, unakuta um kunabade watu wane si media hai kota na powerful labda or labda. Kwa sababu technology. No, it's different.

unknown 43:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

And it's not easy, kwevo. Si kwa si kuba na nawunja moyo, ila, I'm telling you, kuna heshimayake.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Yeah, media is an OG, man.

SPEAKER_05 43:11

Yeah, kuneshimayake uh kuwa a media personality. Yeah. Kunye the mainstream especially. Suneleo.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:20

Yani kuna kuna value flanya bayo inonggezeka. Yeah. Um ukiyenda kwa wateya the the sponsors. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

I understand. Nikuna dunno process.

SPEAKER_05 43:35

Damn Kali, that's kid yotani. Anyway, so ukiyenda kwa wa the mini, umbo, of course to tingy a peso k tokwa sweep. Yeah. Um, we have poliko teru misha tengeneza uaminifuako, mungwa bikusaidia kuye ilo. Sindio. Lakini um uki sematuna kuru puka, u nanza kuri kodi konti nyakum paka utengeneze u. Wa me nifu kuahawa sponsors and you know make money or do evil veto, it takes time, kidoku. So for tin, I'm sure you go kiny mainstream.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Yeah, okay, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do I make myself? Yeah, yeah. You're making perfect sense.

SPEAKER_05 44:15

Yeah, so kongumimi, it means it means a lot.

unknown 44:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Like, and and how different is mainstream media today compared to how you started?

SPEAKER_05 44:25

Okay, now the difference ni combat to make.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 44:29

And um the creative world ima take over kwa kyas kiku kubasana. To Fortina, kipini chanyuma, and ako mi missionza zabani sara, by the way. Um, like any by then, haku kwa na any mamba kun nyoza kun nya contents. Na ni kama saya.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:49

By then, to nafanya radio show, nainakwa tu radio show.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

No, no, no visuals like that.

SPEAKER_05 44:58

Like ini right now, it's different.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

Yeah, I do remember you told me that you didn't wanna be on the on camera. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, you didn't want to be on camera.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

Exactly. So right now we're got different. Right now, tunafanya tunafanya radio, but YouTube and Instagram. Uh it's like a TV, maybe. Yes, maleba. So kote kote wuna qua nenda viral.

unknown 45:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:24

So I think Sasahivi, the technologia, but also the creative world, Sahivi eko more. She's such a meme, guys.

unknown 45:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Okay, guys, guys. She also hosted a dating show with Garabie. Oh. Mr. Ryan. Yeah. How is it hosting a dating show?

SPEAKER_05 45:47

Got a baddest. Gotta what? Baddest.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

He calls himself that?

SPEAKER_05 45:51

No, it's Garda B. Gotta Billions. Okay. Got a brother.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

So it's uh it's a nickname you give him.

SPEAKER_05 45:58

Yeah, and he likes it.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

How was it hosting the dating show?

SPEAKER_05 46:07

It was good.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Did people actually find love there?

SPEAKER_05 46:10

Yes. Actually, kuna waju, kuna clappuna capo mboy chokapale. Almost got married.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Damn. Yeah. Almost. Marriage is tough these days.

SPEAKER_05 46:20

Oh yeah, marriage is tough.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Do you see yourself getting married?

SPEAKER_05 46:22

Do you see yourself getting married?

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Me?

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Not now though, but maybe in the future. I do like the idea of it.

SPEAKER_05 46:31

Yeah, I also do like the idea of it.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

But you know what? Like putting it's you we're putting we're putting we're putting a pin on it, right?

unknown 46:40

Nope. Boop.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

It's all good though. But yeah, um, Mr. Wright, or the way I I looked at it and some of the clips I've seen, it was a it looked like a fan show.

SPEAKER_05 46:49

It was good. It was a fan show.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

Because about personalities about when you're hosting a dating show, oh my, you meet amongst the craziest people.

SPEAKER_05 47:03

I know. But also I learned something. Um especially Vigana wakike.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Vijana wakike.

SPEAKER_05 47:13

Yes, you know, wasichichana, the young ladies.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:18

Um love is it about Nitasema? Okay, money, pesa. Yes, manje.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Manje.

SPEAKER_05 47:28

Eh. Flus. What flus? Flus. Flus. Beggy. Beggy. It's a sampa. It's a sampa. A dia. Adia good team's voice.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

You do love money, didn't you? Like you know all the nicknames.

SPEAKER_05 47:44

You know what? So pesa ni muhimo sana. Kun y mahousiano. Um ina kuna kuna nam nagiza. Chicho tekito. Nele wa ina ina pambisha husiano.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 47:56

But kunyeli shoamba wada wengi wa dogo wana fikla ya kwamba um mahusiano ni mwanaume munye pesa.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

Mahusiano ni mwa nawme mwye pesa.

SPEAKER_05 48:11

Ya ni, kama huna hela, does nothing I can. I can see azi kudil nawewe. Umene elewa.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

Okay, makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 48:20

But growing up, uta kuye kuye elewa uko mbele a uka nyifunza, kwamba akuna kitu kizuri kama pesayako.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

A mnaketu kizuri kama pesayako.

SPEAKER_05 48:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

That's a boy, right.

SPEAKER_05 48:34

See, yukama na make sense, like inin na eleke uko. Okay. Akunakitu kizuri kama pesayako. You know why?

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:40

If you have your money, ha kuna mtwanezaka ku manipulate kun nyi relationship. Just because I provide.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:49

Aw kasababu mimi ni billionaire na na pesa na nini. Of course wacha tuna ta money twana monaomi yambai ana ana wezo mfuko kovizuri na nini, likeini heo ha isiwe ki kwazo yawe we ku kosa the right person kwanya mahusiano yako.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

Okay, facts.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

You know, kasababu kwenye life to me on na mifano hai, anbapo you see women who date rich men, awamoleo wa naw naomi wenye pesa, yeah, they end up actually wengino kogati na matatizu ya kili. You wanna put a mental issues na wengini wanenda wan go through trauma and bayo ina wa drag down. Yeah, yeah. Shume leo, kwa sababu ya pesa.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:35

Um, I don't know kwa na fatilia, but do you know Regina Daniels?

SPEAKER_03 49:39

Regina.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

Kesi ya keli transa nahaba. Um she was married na mwanome wenye pesa na nini, and mm, butai mtwungge ma dila na yopitiya kwany mahusiano, you're like, oh my god, this is not the way of life. But right now, sito ele weka. I know. Natiko nyi comment, so to ta coment, right now, stiwe sikuele weka. Ila, your money is everything.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

Abisa.

SPEAKER_05 50:10

And your money, ita kufanya usiba baiswe, uhusi mtwa tiku foskun yi mahusiana ng bostiosa hiki just because you're in need of his money. You're in need of um kupanda private jets, kuwa na your good life, the chanels, the dior, the you know, the vistachin, all that. No.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

When you say love, you know, poor limb chanel.

SPEAKER_05 50:36

You know. But but you no kitchen money lini funza by the way kuny yu show. Kwamba wada da wing you ameka kunya kiliao, money is everything. Hakuna persona, hakuna relationship.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Damn.

SPEAKER_05 50:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

I feel like uh money does play a big, big, big part in um when you're dating somebody. Of course, you shouldn't be in a relationship if you're not in a as a man, for me, I wouldn't advise a guy to be in a relationship, like a really committed relationship with somebody if you're not there where you want to be in life. I mean, there's cases where people uh uh uh get married with somebody and then they hustle and they make millions. Yeah, that's usually the case. But for me, with the way I was brought up, I was brought up to to be a gentleman, to be to learn your responsibilities as a man and make sure you uh you align with those responsibilities before you commit to something huge. So yeah, those that's the that's how I was raised, and that's what I stand for. So I believe you have to be stable, you have to have your shit together before committing to somebody's daughter. And yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

Have you ever quite ignored Namonamke because manje. Manje.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Manj Manje. Mulla. Okay. Mulla. Yeah, of course. There's some cases where I feel like um I wasn't doing enough because I just didn't have money. And um, yeah. So it wasn't getting ignored per se. It was just like she wasn't um very intrigued. So okay, it's ignored. It's ignored. Yeah, it's ignored. So yeah, I've been ignored a couple of times because of of money.

SPEAKER_05 52:19

Of money.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

And uh when you don't have money and people don't know you don't have money, even when you when you walk in a room, like nobody's gonna pay attention.

SPEAKER_05 52:30

Of course.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Yeah. So, and you get a lot of disrespect just because you don't have Mullah and everything. And it's it's okay. And one thing about me, even if I ain't if I even if I got money, you wouldn't know. I mean, you might see a little bit of things there. But you wouldn't be like, oh, he got money for real. Now, like, even if you look at me. There will be signs. There will be signs?

SPEAKER_05 52:55

There will be signs if I become rich.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

I I'm pretty sure I look like a casual guy right now, Jimba. Just like going into life and stuff. And but uh I like to keep that part of my life really, really private. Because I want to control that. I want to control my private life. Who I date, who uh I'm in love with or whatsoever, who what I'm making my business, I want to keep that private. I'm gonna talk about my business in the future.

SPEAKER_05 53:27

Would you prefer if she's also private about you?

SPEAKER_02 53:30

I mean, I would appreciate if we both agree on privacy to some standard. I'm not saying people are not gonna know who she is or they're not gonna know um if I'm dating or not. No, people are gonna know I'm dating. Of course. Yeah, but um they're not gonna know our business. Like if we go on a date, we're not gonna post. Like we might we might have pictures, then we post maybe in the future. Like, like, like we don't post in real time. We're just confusing the people. No, but we don't let people see us coming. You get me? I like a private life, man. It's beautiful, it's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 54:06

There is a difference, by the way, between private and secret.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Yeah, there's the big difference.

SPEAKER_05 54:11

Very big difference. Yeah, I like private.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

Yeah, secret is lying, technically. Okay, trying to lie. I don't want to lie to anybody. I just want to have a private.

SPEAKER_05 54:20

You've never cheated before?

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Cheated? I've only had one girlfriend. So technically, I've cheating is not a vocabulary to me. What are you doing? It's true. I've only had one girl. Everybody knows that. This about me. You don't believe me? Wow. Did you have to take a loud sip like that? You're being dramatic. I've only had one girl.

SPEAKER_05 54:46

All your life?

SPEAKER_02 54:48

Yeah. Like like ever since I started understanding who I am as a man.

SPEAKER_05 54:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Yeah, it was last year actually. Damn Alia, do I look that unbelievable? Wow.

SPEAKER_05 55:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Okay. You clearly don't want to believe me. But yeah, I'm I've never cheated.

SPEAKER_05 55:10

Sean, Sean, Sean.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

What?

SPEAKER_05 55:13

No, I'm proud of you.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

You you didn't look you didn't you didn't look proud.

SPEAKER_05 55:20

A round of applause.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

Thank you very much. I've been trying to keep myself out of the toxic game.

SPEAKER_05 55:25

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 55:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

I don't think I'm toxic, but some people think I'm toxic. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_05 55:30

Have you ever had like a so you know, like someone that you'd wish to have a relationship with? Have a relationship with.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

I've done. I've I've wished that, but it's always something in between. Um uh maybe the distance. Maybe um what else? Usually maybe religion. You know, everything, you know, you end up falling in love or falling for somebody who's who is not in the right box you're supposed to be in together. So maybe they're they're far away from you or within a different uh belief. Those things play a big part in a relationship, whether you like it or not, gang. It's a sad truth. Even if you because like if you're dating somebody and you guys are serious and you're seeing a future together, you have kids, marriage, religion matters.

SPEAKER_05 56:19

Religion does matter.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

It does, it's a big pla it's a it's a big player in it. And um, if you if usually when you have uh um a girlfriend who's not in your religion and you tell your parents about it, they'll tell you, oh, you Dini, Dad, you dah, Milazau, you you'll be you you you're gonna be told a lot of negative stuff, and and it's gonna like kind of affect you a little bit. Now, okay, now I have to do this with her without our support, without the support of our family. And doing something big as a wedding or um like finding a partner you're gonna spend the rest of your life with without the blessing of your family, it's kind of a bad luck type thing, you know. I don't believe that, you know. As an African, I feel like families should give blessings to people who leave the family to be dead.

SPEAKER_05 57:08

Definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

And yeah, so there's always something, but uh but for the for the last couple months, I've been actually good. I'm open to exploring the the dating scene more often. Yeah. How about you? You're talking about my dating life. Are you dating?

SPEAKER_05 57:33

No, this is another mission.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

Um what uh what have I left?

SPEAKER_05 57:42

How I wonder how how your DMs are like as of Karen.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

My DMs are quite actually normal. They're just haze, haze, haze, haze.

SPEAKER_05 57:51

Oh, the haze?

SPEAKER_02 57:52

Some people just say your husband, I'm your husband, I'm your wife, I'm your wife. You know. They're casual, they're regulars, you know.

SPEAKER_05 57:59

Oh lala.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Yeah, so not not not too cringe, not too crazy. It's just but it's not like a lot like that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure your DMs are even crazier.

SPEAKER_05 58:09

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

Really?

SPEAKER_05 58:11

I don't know. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

Oh yeah? I don't check my DMs. You don't check your dye celebrity, guys. We got a big person sitting next to me right now.

SPEAKER_05 58:21

No.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

Come on.

SPEAKER_05 58:22

Okay, I don't check. Do check my DMs, but you know, with my friends, my cycle. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

Fair. Like, uh, you don't check my own.

SPEAKER_05 58:32

Because we we yeah, the request.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

Yeah, you don't check. I rarely check my requests though, me too, because like I usually don't pay attention to them unless I start getting maybe a lot of them at once, then I say, oh, okay. Let me check. Let me check what's up. But I do reply to my DMs if they make sense.

SPEAKER_05 58:49

Okay. Yeah, if they make sense, do reply.

SPEAKER_02 58:52

I'm not gonna let the question go.

unknown 58:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

We talked about me. You.

SPEAKER_05 58:57

About me? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

What's your dating scene like? Are you are you are you open to the dating scene?

SPEAKER_05 59:04

Yeah. Oh. You No, actually, I I I'm not single, you know. Oh I'm not so single.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Wait, wait, what does that even mean? You're not so single. Okay, okay. So you're talking to somebody basically. Oh, you're like you're talking to a couple people.

SPEAKER_05 59:23

I'm alright.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

You're alright.

SPEAKER_05 59:25

Mm-hmm.

unknown 59:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

Okay. She's alright, gang.

SPEAKER_05 59:29

I'm alright.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

She got a system going on. It's working for her. Screw, screw. So good. Are you into fashion?

SPEAKER_05 59:37

Yeah. Lakini, what's going on be it? Mimi, I mean I I don't go with the trans, by the way. No, I feel like you shouldn't go with the trans. That's that's that's like I don't go with this with the trans. Do you say easy? No.

SPEAKER_03 59:51

Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_05 59:53

I don't go.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Yeah. Mavazi. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:58

Yeah. I put on what I feel like will look good on me. Doesn't matter. It's okay. I would always go with whatever looks good on me.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

Yeah, I feel like I do the same thing these days. I've been experimenting on different things, but now I'm sticking to the case.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

You know, Kunawatu Mbawa is so much into fashion.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:21

You're like, wow. Yeah, you know, no, you've ever met such people? Yeah, like when you go to turn a newspaper into a crop top. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:34

Or like you know, it's card. I've seen Adventure Space, I've seen this guy who came with uh with a shirt that's full of glass. Like actual glass, bro. Bro. Like if he if he like trips and falls on you. Sounds uncomfortable too. Yeah, you he he cuts you. He cuts you completely. Cuts you. It was poking out. So when he was walking, people were like, hey, stay away from this. I feel like he he aliva um like a coat of glasses in eyes and made this, he made like they were glued to the like to the shirt. Pieces of glasses were glued to the shirt.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Yeah, he was a fashion nigga, bro. Some people go crazy at Vintage Space. Have you ever been to you ever heard of Vintage Space?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:19

Oh, the vintage space. Yeah. The one that in Masaki? The Watotwakishua, the Jam Zag.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

I mean, it's not technically what Totwakishua, but it's just a vibe there, man. Yeah. It's just genuine people who like to connect with uh through fashion and music. It's a dope place. You should check it out. But um I'd like to uh play a game with you. I'm not so good at games. It's an easy one. It's a game game. I'm the ready. I was an expert at that. So this game is called TZ or not TZ. So I'm basically gonna give you um statements and you tell me if um these are Tanzanian vibes or not.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:59

Tanzanian vibes or not?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:01

Okay, now it's not gakose, so senior chanberjuman.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

Nobody can't do it. Okay. Muted someone on your socials and never looked back. T Z or not TZ?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:14

T Z.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

TZ?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:15

Yeah.

unknown 1:02:16

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

Okay. What do you have you muted somebody and never looked back? A lot. Yeah, okay. I can say you're a girl. Yep. Fake beefing to get attention.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:25

Oh, T. T. So TZ. Brow.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Yeah, like do you do you believe in that method though?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:32

People do that for a living.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

Yeah. Crazy, crazy, crazy. All right. Um, read the messages immediately, but reply later on purpose.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:44

T.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:46

Yep. Yeah. Yep. I've done that. I feel like I've done that with girls. Because I used to think, I used to think you don't want to look desperate.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:56

Desperate on Thursday or okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did with girls.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:00

It's just like Kunambao, they don't do it evil. Kunambao, they just do it bilasabu. You know, they feel like they're special and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like uh I stopped doing that. Now I reply immediately. I don't have time to waste like that anymore. It's not that deep for me anymore. Okay. Check somebody's following before replying.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:21

Oh yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

Yep. Yeah. I've done that. I've done that. I'm guilty. That's TV, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:30

I've done that too.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Yeah. If somebody has a low following count after they're dimming you something, I'm like, um, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:37

Basically, I do that. Sana sana kwa watuany ku DM um Kazi.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Yeah. You know? If you're approaching me with work and you're telling me you want to do something with me, you have to have a profile that I can survey to fact-check what you're saying on your DM. If you don't have that, it will be hard for me to trust you and be interested in the offer you're proposing.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

Yeah. Yeah. Uh okay, the last one. Said I'm busy while doing absolutely nothing. Is that T.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

That's so tanzani.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

Yeah, man. I feel like we've all done that.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

We always lie, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:26

I would tell you I'm busy. I'm sorry.

unknown 1:04:30

Damn.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:31

I've never I've cancelled plans to sleep. You like to sleep that much? Occasionally, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

I feel like that's you know, I've met a lot of women who love to sleep. I I don't think I've met any girl that doesn't like to sleep. I love to sleep. Oh my god, I don't like to sleep. Really? I don't fancy it. So for me, sleep is just like I'm wasting time unless I'm really tired.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

No, no, no, no, no. It's not that deep.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:02

But it's more so like I only sleep when I'm generally tired.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:06

I don't I don't sleep Okay, with me, Kulikoni Choke, I'd rather sleep. I'd rather just work or Okay, you're a workaholic.

unknown 1:05:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:16

You are. Basically, that's what you're saying. You are a workaholic.

unknown 1:05:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:21

I I work, but I'll always have time to sleep. I'll make time for my bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:31

I have a question. We're done with the game. Uh I want to ask you a question on the celebrity culture. Do you feel like it adds pressure to the younger generation? Ooh, yup. Celebrity culture, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:46

Sana. You know, let me tell you, I don't get actually it was just last week to Lungelia Kunishow.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:58

Um The celebrity culture is he take over my shayako.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:12

Just kwa what wanna yi brand? What kyuelewe? What? Kunye kunyye brand.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:21

Bro, mtu yukoravi akakodi gari, i a pe kunye kunye event onekane like brownie meshuka konye g wagon na nini. Sunelewa.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:34

Dam.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:34

Yeni wapu watu wahivo mba wana fanyyehivo. Of course kuna watu wana mniki magari yawe kah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:40

True true.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:40

Lekini kuna aseli miyakubaya celebrities. Abao they do that. Na mtu analina brandiake. Na kueli brandiyakin doinam letia kula. Sunalewa. The wee wuna vonyueka ndivan bavu takari mi shapesa. Ye kiasigyani. Uki nyweka kamanuel fomsini, uda patel famsini. Lakini ukishen ywa. So watu wana force yunakwa hivo. Now, how sa samboso celebrities. Amba wako Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

Mbo the ups.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:09

Looking up to I'm looking up to you. Those ndonbo wana potea. Wana hisi um mona ni rahisi. Nezan kange studio nigga se ma yo, yo, yo, my name is Aliyah. Love and the bab and the bab and the bah and Kishana Rolls Royce. I know baby. That's not how it goes. Nahata celebrities and bawa wana miliki malizao kweli.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:40

It took them years to be there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:42

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:43

It took them years. Um I recall kunamoje uh interviews Ali kwaki fanya Alifanya Bonang. You know Bonang? Bonang Mateva?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:56

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:57

She's a media personality from South Africa, an influencer too. Um Alisema kunye um Tokia kemoja kumba. We don't post the struggles. The way the Vituambavo tuna pitiya vizito. We don't post that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:20

You know? We don't post that.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:28

Like any to na post to kyo tumesha pata, tumesha fanikua. Yeah. It's something about natuf kirieto. Nayo to have ananziaku yitambua. You have to know what you want. True. You have to know kitu geniu naitaji kuyamaishako, kitu gig, kitu geni howitaji konya maisha ako. And uki ishi kwa ku eneshua na mi tandao, my dear utapotea.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Kabisa.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:49

Do ikitun disema earlier on. Yeah, not everybody ni content creator. Any who see si kunbao you unamiliki iPhone 17, basiwe wenizu ka content creator. No. Hai haipo evo. You natekanini, work for it. Yeah, work for it. Kamawe ako ni kua um, let's say, mfanyabiya shara.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:12

Work on that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

Facts.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:13

Kunawatu wana drop school. Just kuwa video vixens. Kunawatu wana drop schools. Because nani ka kwambia, you need nani ka kwomia, you have to drop school. Ili kuweza ku ishi katika yo talentiyako na kuifani kisha. No! Do you know how many celebrities when maliza wana degreza wana mastershao? Nani wasani wakuba tunchini? Yeah. You no na wana fanya kazeo vi zori. Not only that, do you know hataha wambbaoha wajye soma? Do you think hawakupenda kusoma?

unknown 1:09:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:51

No. Asili me kubokiskiza stories out, wa mekpitiya ma sha magumu, amba hawakuza kusoma, so they had to look for plan B.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:02

Ila wewa me pata opportunity ya ku soma mduguango, umefika chuma ka wa kwanza umechanga nyikiwa gabisa you wana drop school?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

To pursue music.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:11

To pursue music, to pursue wigizaji? No. Come on. Unaizo kafanya mzikiwako ako, ilo siya chy shule. Because ia education, itakusa idea. Na maranyingi education to neza, cause weng yue to tuli chosomia, maybe had to ki apply in real life, but education si you to ku ku apply kazi. Education is all about knowledge upstairs, up here. Una ad kitu.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

No, but I'd like to um put your mind in uh on another perspective of this thing, you know. You know, um I'ma use myself as an example. Of course I've I I've I I've I'm done with school, I did everything, uh I graduated and everything, right? But I always tell people this. Uh if you school is to build your mind, you get me? To build the sharpness of your critical thinking. This is basing on my analogy and uh analytic like experimentation I've done, at least on this, or just asking people questions and how they view these things, right? I believe um school, college, uni, everything, right? The education system basically is to build your sharpness and your critical thinker of analyzing a problem and trying to solve it. So if you are studying in the sense of, I wanna be, I'm studying, I'm studying, I want to get a job. I don't think you should do that personally. When you do that, you'll be disappointed when you're done studying and there's no jobs.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:46

You get me?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

You'll be disappointed and you'll be like, I did this, now I'm I'm employed in in the cafe. Listen, man, because you were do you were approaching the the challenge and the game wrong. In my opinion, if you're studying something, just learn how to solve problems. Learn how to solve a certain problem in your community and monetize that. It's not easy as I'm speaking right now, it's definitely not easy at all. Actually, it's very, very difficult to try to solve problems. Very difficult. That's why a lot of people don't do it. But if you're in school, sometimes school just doesn't work. A lot of people have dropped out and become successful. True. We've seen that. True. A lot of people I look up to also as me, uh, they've dropped out and they're like, I'm pursuing this. And why do they drop out? Because they they've sat down and run the whole like how do I say protocol or the numbers, and they've like sat down and really processed that. Oh, I really want to pursue this. They didn't guess. They didn't guess. A lot of people guess, oh, I want to try, I want to try music. I wanna try content create. Don't try.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

Don't try.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:05

Don't fucking try. If you're doing it, you better fucking do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:10

And now when yangbao, they try. Actually, I want to plan.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:14

But the ones among, let's say, uh watchyu and bao, I'm a dropout school, uh ni watchwambau, ni my genius, by the way. Because they knew earlier on nini wanataka kunya maishao. Una leva. And they made a plan. I would do this, I'll do this, nanita fika hapa. And they did. But if I walkyo, you know, blink of an eye. No, no, no. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:38

No, no, it takes years to build wealth.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:40

So, kwa nini wewe, ukae, nakuangalia, yeah, celebrities, my shao, and you want to apply your life, kwa ku we about how go when you opposed, but you get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:54

Yeah. I feel like, I feel like uh just to like to leave it in uh in a good stand, Kwanzaa, don't take this the wrong way. Nobody's trying to judge you or tell you what to do with your life. I even tell the people who listen to the show. We're literally just giving you our opinions on things. You know? I might be wrong to your eyes, I might be right in somebody else's eyes. Even the same with Alia's opinion on things, right? But bottom line is be committed. Nothing successful comes handed to you. You gotta fight for it, you gotta live it, you gotta breathe that. A lot of people who go into something, they feel like, oh, buy them, after one year, two years, I'll be good. If I do seriously, I'll be good. You might be, you might be lucky. Maybe that that time luck was on your side and that happened. But that isn't the right way of looking at things. First of all, when you get success way too fast, it's bad. If you get fame way too fast, that that's bad. That's bad. They're gonna go out the same way. Unless you have to you have a good team. Unless you have a good team, because fame can get to you, money can get to you. It gets to everybody at some point.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:10

And let me tell you one thing. Adding on to that, just so you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

Bro, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:20

Fame, yeah, don't play with the fact that on stage, na what to thousands of people are screaming his name. You know Kakalia gives you your TV, okay. Yeah, that's it. You know, it's but don't play with that. Don't play with that shit. Because about self-control, na kui Bro, uta to kabo, una to mea like John Bravo, like I like the reference. You know, you're like, yeah, yeah. Chest forward. Yeah. Like in the fame ni mbaya sana.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:09

Sana. Especially kamahau yuji se kuitu me.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:12

I really don't like watu wanapata fame. Bro, me na jua watu mbao ni meona from um, of course kubitiya underground. Kubita karea yango, kunaatu nmona kwanza underground, mpaka wana kuwa. Yeah. Kwenye karezao. And kunawatu anashima san. Yani the way waliwoku. They're humble, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

Always be humble, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:36

Yene kija kyunggiana we're like, wow. Amazing. No change. Na unona nim to mifani kiwa pakuba. I love sasakunaatu. Kwanza na waanza kwanza ni kama any Who the fuck are you? Shoot a leo. And like I'm all that. Yeah. I mean No, like any my shani kitu chajebsan.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

The thing is, Alia, I feel like how we were brought up to life, how we were raised really affects that. True. A lot of people, especially when you when you grow up in some somewhere very not well natured, uh a well-natured home, it gets to affect how you respect and treat people on your success.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:19

But also, Mimi, um Nasemaga biya Faith.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

God, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:32

It matters. Big time.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:39

Yeah. Uki kutana namtu munye hofu shon.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:43

The fear of God, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:46

Humble.

unknown 1:17:46

Human.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:47

Very, very humble, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:48

They're very humble. Because you can't do it. And I lewa kwamba right now, nipo, ne zankagiuka, nikagungo na gari, and I'm out.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:58

You know, kunawatu wambbo wa na ishivo.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:01

Knowing kwamba life, styo chuchote any in a blink of an eye, ni takwa siko.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

Not only, not death. In a blink of an eye, umafili sika. Na blink of an eye, ume paralyze. In a blink of an eye.

unknown 1:18:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:19

So, uki wutana nam tumwa nyye imani a mungu, nahofiya mungu, yeah, yoko evo straightforward.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:24

Humble, sure, hana disrespect nain. Tofotisha katiam tuambai, yuk ana disrespect afumtuambai, aminyoka. Yeah, wuna yua bungoenkyo wana okio namtu kanyonka runa yule na yona. Is you like se babu kanyoka.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:40

Yeah wanka kumengoko.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:43

Black is black, white is white.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:45

A kunaga black and white.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:48

Then kunawatu mbao, hawana hofuyamunye is mongo. How sa? They don't give a shit. Any wana disrespect, they're disrespectful. Um, wana you kutawa on the wow, the life life niya kwa, maisha wana you a wow, the googles, the chat GPTs. They know it all, bro. You know? Utawambiya ni newekapuku. Yeah, man. The choice is yours, by the way. Yo kuchagua path gani wanaita ji.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:28

I mean, always just be mindful, man. Always stay respectful, stay humble, be good to people, treat people the way you want to be treated treated. Just basically just be a good human being, man. I always say that. I always it's like I'm preaching it every time.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:42

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:43

Um, kwajikita wish uh Dr. Ali Hasan muni, yeah, uh second president for Tanzania. Umisema Ariandika Hakikisha uondoka dunyani kuna historian zuri and bayo unaya. Legacy. The legacy and bayo na acha behind hakikisha ninjema.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:09

Ya ni watu wa kuzunggumziye uzuri.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:12

Kabisa.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:12

Sio ila kwamba marehem wa seem we vi baya. Uh-uh? Sio yo.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:18

Sio heyo kibi na damuna utua. Nile kwamba.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:22

She was he or she was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're the you was the OG. Sure. Everybody has that dream of living leaving a like a good legacy when they pass on.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:35

True.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:36

Hey gang, don't go anywhere just yet. We still got more of the No Trolling podcast coming out.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:48

Books are always like a beautiful thing to um to like take part in. How often do you read books? Like every day or like every couple once in a while?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:59

Not every day, but often.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:02

Often? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:04

I try.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:05

Everybody does, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

Guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:08

Nili Kwogas he saw me vitabu. But I met KP. Masud Kipania. You know Masud Kipany?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:15

Okay, you gotta stop doing that.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Like But these are people that everybody knows.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:20

Who's Masud Kipania?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:22

You know Masud Kipania. You know Masud Kipania. Everybody knows oh KP? You don't know KP?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:27

Okay, explain who's KP? Masud Kipania. Okay, what does he do?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:32

He is a legend, bro. A medium personality legend.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:37

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:38

He wrote his book too.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:41

Okay. I'll I'll I'll check him out. Let's see what's up.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:44

Okay. So Ushe kuchana na katoon is uh Masud Kipania.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:47

Katouni. Does he call you kids?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:52

You know what? Tun gendalit. It's so funny though.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

Yeah, that I don't know a lot of people.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:00

Yeah, that you don't know a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:02

Yeah, I know, I know. I get clowned all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:04

Yeah, it's easy to, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:05

Yeah, but I'm learning, guys. I'm meeting different people every every now and then when I go outside. And uh yeah, I'll be happy to meet somebody.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:12

I think you need to dig in more on legends? Legends.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:15

I feel like uh for me, this is how I look at it. Um me not knowing people is not disrespect. It's just that they haven't come my line. You know, when you come in, my visual, I'll definitely do research on you, I'll definitely be intrigued. You know, some of the legends I know about because they're in my lane, like let's say, um uh uh who like who hold on Salama Jabir. See? She's in my lano work, so and she's a legend. So of course I'm gonna know her. You know, but if you're not in my lano work, you know, mind you, I'm not a media personality. All right. So technically, even if I don't know people from the media.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:55

Why are you shouting?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:56

Oh, I'm not shouting, my bad. Okay. I was just trying to explain actually. No, like I was just trying to put some emphasis on it. But uh, yeah, so I'm I'm learning to understand people who I'm I'm meeting and uh learning names of people who did a lot for the game. And yeah, I appreciate everybody who did everything for the game, you know what I'm saying? People who we were really committed, committed to it, and uh, I appreciate it. Shout out to everybody. But if I don't know somebody, I might know them eventually. So yeah, now I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:28

It's okay not to know everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:29

Yeah, yeah, definitely okay. I know that. I've been comfortable with that. Yeah, you know, so we're all good. By the way, guys, we're back from the break, and we just hit, by the way, I forgot to say this early on on the episode. We hit 80k subs on YouTube. Yeah, we hit 80k subs. We hit 60k on TikTok, we hit 50k on Instagram. We started back here strong, and I appreciate everybody who have been supporting the show, fan of the show, chat out to the no trollers, and this segment is dedicated to the no trollers, the no trolling questions. So in the no trolling questions, we have a catchphrase in the show. No trolling, don't sweat it. Okay, no trolling, don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:08

No trolling, don't sweat it. Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:11

So when I say no trolling, you say don't sweat it. Yes, sir. So I can ask you a question if you remember. Now walk off.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:22

So if I ask you a question and I say don't sweat it. Uh no trolling. You say don't sweat it, and then you respond to you to you, give out your answer.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:31

I have to say don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:32

Yeah, if you remember though.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:34

A lot of people forget, so it's okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:36

Any question? I gotta any question you ask?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:40

So I should respond.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:42

Don't sweat it. And then I answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:44

Respond, yes. If you remember. Yeah, it's all good, so good.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:48

Welcome to the Gen Z type, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:51

Wow, you're gonna do Gen Z on me? No. Okay, I'll I'll play. I'll play. Okay, okay. A lot of billions. And guys, shout out to Pentagon Rentals, guys. They're the one people who are keeping me afloat. They're providing me with a good studio space, a comfortable setting, amazing equipment. And if you're a creator like me, or you're like somebody who's into the game like that, tap into that. Of course, not for free, at a reasonable price, invest in your shit. You get me? Yeah, always. Actual baby. Don't be stingy. And if you've made it this far, subscribe, my boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:29

Yeah, bo.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:30

Subscribe. If you're listening to us on audio platform, uh hit that follow so we can get updated whenever we upload an uh our episodes. Yeah, with that said, are we gonna dive into the last segment of the show? Is not trolling question. I already explained the rules to her. She knows don't not trolling, don't sweat it. We dive in.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:46

But before move forward, does it disturb you when your friends or your closest people don't follow you back?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:57

I don't give a shit. Actually, I would if you don't follow me, it's all good, bro. I don't always talk. It's not weird between us. It's not that deep for me. Even when when you even even even if you don't wish me on my birthday, it's all good.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:13

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:14

No, it's not okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:15

That came out painful.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

It's all good. You know, I've I when I was a kid, I was a big birthday guy. But now, bro. Like even my parents don't wish me happy birthday sometimes when they don't remember. It's not that good.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:28

I love my birthday.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:29

I mean, I've I'm assuming every girl likes their birthday.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:32

I do.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

I'm yet to meet a girl who doesn't like their birthday.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:34

Shouts to my mom, by the way. Like she made it so special.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:37

Yeah, I mean, for me, it's not that deep. Of course, I like making my mom feel special on her birthday. I like buying her stuff, I like taking her out whenever I get the chance to. But for me, birthdays is just calm for me. It's not that deep. Okay, the first question. What's a little thing that makes you smile? No trolling. What's a little thing that makes you smile?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:58

Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:59

Sir. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

Come on. What makes me smile?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:04

Come on, it's not that hard, yeah?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:06

I know, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:06

Why are you?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:07

Okay, Vitor Vingi, but um What's your favorite? The fact that I wake up every day alive.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

That's that's deep.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:16

That's deep idea. That's a good reason to smile.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:20

Waking up in the morning. So you're a morning person, so you smile every morning?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:23

Yeah, I wake up at five.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:26

Damn. I wake up at five, two sometimes. Yeah. A lot actually not a lot of times I wake up at five, four. Yeah. I do my best work in the morning or late at night.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:36

Yeah, I do my best trying to connect myself with God. So I I I try hard to, you know, be more of a prayerful. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

That's dope. That's dope. Okay. Do you agree talent alone doesn't get you anywhere these days? No trolling.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:58

Don't sweat it. Um if okay the talent talent what okay the the don't sweat it thing in a in a put it okay okay you can stop saying it okay you can stop saying it don't sweat it for the rest of the question all right what was the question don't sweat it for the rest of the question what was the question what's do you agree that talent alone doesn't get you anywhere these days talent alone doesn't get you anywhere yeah these days yes okay bro you need discipline to maintain that talent of yours very respectful and respectful because I've shakamo I always say that you need discipline with yourself consistency and um stop procrastinating shit stop procrastinating shit yes yeah for sure I need to I need to get that through my head man uh I can be a procrastinator sometimes but whenever I procrastinate I confiscate I like I do two times the things I was supposed to do but you should stop procrastinating I know Ali so it's okay thank you it's okay I do that too though yeah everybody does if you real art is procrastinating oh yeah I'm telling you okay so it's it's it's a you have to be a master at it though don't be a lazy procrastinator be a strategic procrastinator okay you know I mean don't take that from him just do your job it works for me works for me hey if it doesn't work for you okay okay what's the lie most people tell themselves in relationships no trolling hey in relationships yes what is a lie most people tell themselves tell themselves that especially for women when you see your name to king or come pen I'm it's like you know what I'm done this is my husband I'm gonna marry him I'm gonna have kids with him you know you have this um imagination of who this person is and the future of you guys relax bro he was probably just love bombing you yep don't sweat it yeah so again man I mean this love game man no just take it easy yeah no pressure man yeah no pressure no expectations too but you know some people move fast though some people move fast in relationships like in two weeks I'm to tell you I love you that's my woman that's my wifey um and that's not bad it's not actually it's not because um they move fast and they get married and they live happily ever after true yeah they move fast but all this time he was just like bombing you stupid ass facts that's the harsh truth about the the this dating scene man you gotta say protect your heart protect your heart yeah protect your heart what do you think is the difference between confidence and ego no trolling the difference between confidence and ego and ego yeah what do you think is the difference between confidence and ego I think it's different confidence okay so confidence is fine yes okay yes and ego is also fine but not too much too much is harmful of course overconfidence baby no to give little blue both that that's bad okay it's different like ini kuna kuna nam na flani am bayo ina ina ingiliana kwanam naflani like inni mtu mwy ego so okay I'm trying to differentiate this but mtu ego baby they won't do it because wanna yari lap that ego young and they wanna deep down they wanna do it but then it's like bro no it's me come on this is a Leah baby what the you get yeah yeah yeah like any confidence confident having confidence ni sawa but having overconfidence baby you feel like the Googles the Googles the Googles feel like you know everything the AIs okay you feel like you know it all but umtu confidence wanna kifanya you know whether we which is okay it's fine kuana confidence ego mtuambana kama like what what is it in Swahili?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:01

Igonini in Swahili not kuji gamba ego ni yes kamajuri and you can't get you mtu mbaya na mla la mishi sinuo kila kiti you know mtuamba na la masana like ini ego nikama kiburi flan if you okay kiburi yeah that's the best definition yeah yani ni kama I wanna do it but come on I mean for me confidence symbolizes um like the right level of confidence symbolizes you know what you're doing you you you respect the work and you value the work they say like for me as a podcaster I'm confident that I can um I can produce a quite high quality podcast confidence I'm confident in that but ego would beat me say I'm the yeah nobody's better than you nobody's better than me in this game bro nobody's better than me and I stand on that yeah that's overconfidence and egotistic and that's disrespect though everybody in the game let me tell you Sean kuna samsang yin e kuna ego na bidipo come nini what in what areas do you think ego should be applied now let me tell you kuna badia zimo kuduniani trust me some people crazy yeah na u kiwa nimtu uhele wa sana wana kupanda kichwani of course and they take advantage of course I understand that so kuna wa tu inabidi kuwa ku ny m stari yeah you gotta put your foot down in something kuna ego anywena any iguako y apply mdau se usi apply kila se him kuna seem inabidu iguaku ya play but konfono kwa sisi wanawaki kila wanam kiana hai bayakike what hai bayake is that I don't know you google it haiba yakike haibaya kike I don't know how to explain it but okay it's like the femin the femininity in you you know like okay yeah yeah you know okay yeah yeah yeah yeah so you need to maintain that yeah yeah you need to maintain that meaning kwamba don't act desperate and thirsty all around okay you need standards standards exactly okay you know don't settle for less yeah yeah so Igoyako prideyako yeah ego and pride ni sawa igoyako pridiako inabidi iwepoyani kunamude na italiika yeah i i do see what you're saying but um uh in my in my perspective I like to call them standards I mean ego they play along they they're yeah there's a very thin line yeah but um whenever somebody disrespects you you put your foot down nobody should disrespect you or undervalue you if you know your self-worth right whether it's working with different people working with brands or whatever put your foot down don't let nobody disrespect you just because you're a good person and usually alive I've been a victim of this yeah you sound like one okay I'm sorry bro yes you've been a victim I've accepted it I've been a victim of being a people pleaser trying to be nice just so you can get something done listen man if I know my capability I'm confident in the work I can provide for somebody I'm working with or people I collaborate with. So if I put my foot down in something it's not that oh I'm very egotistic.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:50

No no no it's just discipline professionalism gang yeah so yeah wa to hawaii um humbleness humbleness yes humble you're weak yeah a lot of people have that feel like you're weak no it's not weakness yeah it's definitely not humbleness yaku kay yundoa unonigana just like that you know when it comes to this man as long as you're very respectful and you're a good person in general you're gonna be okay man when people disrespect you analyze it don't react just like that right there and then just be very tread lightly you know even even somebody disrespect you you don't have to disrespect them back you know don't be the bigger person don't be the bigger person yeah but I know sometimes you don't have to be and sometimes it's okay to crash out and shit you learn one thing I've learned in that case silence is very strong so powerful very strong yeah silence it's still you're weak they always have to get back they always have to get back at people have the last word yes they always have to have the last word like any silence very powerful silence weakness silence your fear I've kuna silence your power like I'm not gonna stop to your level to say that yes like you don't even deserve my response that silence yeah yeah that's savage right there that's boss moves god damn it fuck is you talking about oh yeah don't play with her come on what what was the word not trolling don't sweat it don't sweat it don't sweat it are you a business personal I'm trying okay it's okay I'm trying yeah do you wanna do you feel like do you see yourself investing this year uh oh yeah oh yeah another uh the last question actually what does it mean to you when somebody tells you or when you hear the saying love isn't enough control that love isn't enough don't sweat it love isn't enough yeah love isn't enough um what is love to begin with a good question what is love what is love I'm asking you what is love to you though to me yes love to me is um respect okay love is kindness kindness yeah you know love is understanding okay love is acceptance of who whatever you are or who I am okay you know yeah and sewaga I wish to have what I really wish or looking forward to in a man I'm on gila love ghani yeah that one right yeah okay um nachabani wanome kwanza when you huruma okay you know teteziwaang teteziwango yeah you can defender your guard your night and shiny protect her okay you get it I got you I got you yeah because what does it mean if all you do is disrespect me okay what does it mean do you know that yeah I've seen that one bow anela la forin burger I'd rather cry on a private jet than cry on a boulder boulder no honey boulder boulder no baby you know could I watch they have money yeah so nihu me. Yeah come out and you don't bring me peace. Love is peace.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:57

For sure I need to have that for you to but uh green light love man such an anomaly bro what is love to you love to me is um okay I like to phrase it in how I see love. How when I see these things in a woman I believe they have love for me. Again so I want to define love in like a general term because I haven't I can't generalize love. I for me I'll just put it in my perspective and I'll make it personal to me. So love to me is respect. When I see a woman respecting me that's a big sign that they in some way or form. Whether it's it's uh like a relationship or friendship or just evil close people. You know um love to me is um communication. You know communicating with somebody and it's easy to communicate it's easy to to tell them your personal things and they don't judge you. It's easy to say the insecurity you have and they'll see you and they'll accept them and they'll or they'll they'll they'll just let you know you're okay. You know the the bad things you see in yourself is usually not the case. It's usually not the case in how people see you. Sometimes that's why when you take a picture you say I look so bad but when other people look like oh my God you look damn gorgeous here. So sometimes the way you see yourself in the mirror is not usually how people see you. So love to me is trust it's a peace of mind you give each other you get me so love to me is also being good to each other you know when you're good to another person they sense that and they return the favor. You know what I'm saying? So yeah that's in a nutshell I feel like that's love to me. And whenever like I'm I'm I'm I'm talking to somebody and I want to be serious I usually try to be an observer on those things but before I let you go Alia I wanna I wanna know how you plan to navigate this year.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:26

This year? Yeah 2026 Okay is not um okay first I inshallah plan Nilo now just um just I'm chilled um though I do have better and bigger plans for myself Alhamdulillah last year was so good yeah man I see what you're saying yeah it was it was 2024 2025 has have been your favorites my favorite years in terms of um elevation man jay manje baggy you know flus they say mafie my shy end you know so you you need plans kuba that's my point though sit was the same uh sure yeah I I I love to keep it Kwang and niwa surprise too don't let them see you coming though okay though mimu na you pandewa business na yeah I just love my shyango upandewa private yeah my shy public yeah but yeah to unscreen 247 so I check back here but uku kingire I really love Kwifany Loki but I have bigger plans better plans stay ready for chicho key. Yeah always be grateful to waking up alive and we're healthy man yeah with that said guys that was this was episode 80 of the Not Trolling Podcast uh with Alia oh my god thank you guys for having me yeah yeah thank you for pulling me sorry i i I feel like we were just having a conversation through questions thank you yeah pointers pointers yeah but it was good by the way my friend um congratulations thank you you're doing good thank you you are thank you very much I was telling you before behind cameras um miaka nyuma ungekwe by then okay I sound like I'm old I'm not but by that you know um ki pindicho ki okiung you know you know mengi you know to Leah you know but right now I just love the way audience support na I love my neutralist man yeah you are up there and I wish a lot of yeah yeah thank you looking forward to bigger stuff this year facts man yeah guys until next time peace out