Lora isabel: Why I Stopped Caring About What People Think at a very Young age ||EP 81

What’s good No Trollers🔥 We’re back in the studio with another real one.
the very first guest to ever sit on this podcast Lorah , a true definition of growth and grace,Fitness lover, Lifestyle content creator, Media personality &a Cat Mom,
We get into her fitness journey, being outspoken in a loud industry, navigating media, new chapters in her career, and the mindset that keeps her grounded when life hits hard.
We talk fears people don’t admit, non-negotiables in work and relationships, protecting your peace, and the questions nobody wants to answer out loud. 
This episode is honest, layered, funny, and unfiltered , the kind of conversation  that makes you reflect and laugh at the same time.

And Lorah finally breaks down why she stopped caring about what people think at a very young age , and how that mindset shaped the woman she is today.
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Filmed by: Rocky the mutator & jordan
Edited by : sean81jax

Chapters;
00:00 Trailer
02:30 More DL women than men
04:45 Getting back together from a new year's text
05:49 intro
09:11 Lora's fitness journey
11:18 Lora's cat mom life
12:53 The Dating scene
15:15 Lora's new job 
18:16 Navigating the Entertaiment industry
19:58 Uncomfortable Truth couples like to avoid
20:18 The young generation feeling pressured to succeed
22:52 Non negotiable whenw working with people
24:19 Would men mind getting harassed my a woman
26:34 Lora & Sean's Friendship
29:00 Lora's New year's plan
31:52 Lora when she's down bad
34:22 Dealing with fake friends 
39:22 Building a habit of respecting people
40:08 Episode 81(sean81jax)
42:44 The fear of pursuing a relationship
47:00 Having kids
51:32 How seeking help could be tough sometimes 
53:19 Men who grow up with no sisters
54:56 Ricky and morty is Deep
59:40 Tzee or Not Tzee (NT game)
01:04:21 After the break  
0107:14 When your friends dont watch your content
01:08:33 The No trolling Questions
01:25:29 The Art of not Giving a F@#!
01:29:07 Outro & Shout outs

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

I'm gonna be very honest, guys. There's one thing I've always been doing ever since I've been a child, and that's not giving a fuck. I've never cared what anyone thinks of me, I've never cared what anyone's opinion of me was, I've never cared because you are not me. You've not lived my life, you will never be me. So you don't pay my fees, you don't give me money, you don't pay my rent, you don't kiss my ass, you don't eat my butt. Shut the fuck up. People our ages are so pressured on trying to figure out who they want to be in life, trying to figure out how they can manage life and make money and make a life for themselves. And sometimes just telling them that, you know, you need to give yourself grace, or you just need to understand that with time, things can align. Sometimes that answer is not enough for everyone. I'm not in a rush with life. And life, honestly, that's the thing about me that I've also realized. I'm not in a rush. I'm not like, oh, I'm way behind, I have to do this. I think for me, always, it just comes a time I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do this. You need to understand you live your own life. Everyone has their own story already written, your fate is already like decided. Some of us are gonna end up rich, some of us are gonna end up poor, some of us are gonna end up dead before tomorrow. It's actually crazy. So give yourself grace and just know that with time your things will unfold. And if they don't think that was your life.

SPEAKER_08 1:16

It took you like 30 minutes to that. That's why I'm not impressed.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

I'm not impressed because I was focused on you. Okay. Damn, girl.

SPEAKER_06 1:25

Alright, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

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SPEAKER_07 2:35

What do you mean? Mungaba.

SPEAKER_05 2:38

Mungum Baba. Mungaba is the right way of saying it. Have you noticed like they're like they're more deal women than men?

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Nah.

SPEAKER_05 2:54

Ah.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Like, I'm so serious. You know, women try to women can be like, well, sometimes I guess girls, nigga, niggas don't say nothing. Like you find out the deal men, hey.

SPEAKER_05 3:11

I'm not saying uh that we don't have deal men.

SPEAKER_10 3:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:15

I'm saying the numbers compared to men. Because men women are like subjected to that like environment more. Think about it.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

The deal men. There's deal men everywhere, Bana.

SPEAKER_05 3:34

I'm not saying they're not there.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Yeah, yeah, of course. I get what you're saying. Um, we're trying to uh compare the numbers of the old men.

SPEAKER_05 3:41

Yeah, deal men because women can camouflage it so well. And so can the men, dude. No, I'm not saying it's not a competition.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Um I know, I know it's not a competition, but then it's still a comparison. So it's it's kind of a competition, you know. Like it's still like it's still okay. So I would say, I don't know, man. I I've I've not encountered a lot of deal women, but I've heard more stories of deal men.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

Okay, stories because it's more absurd or like crazier.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

I guess maybe that's the case.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

That's the case. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

I can eat that pan. It's getting crazy. At first I thought it was a joke. Why? No. It's not happened. Because that would mean I was interested in him. The fuck?

SPEAKER_05 4:33

Okay, whatever. Real now.

SPEAKER_09 4:36

Are people seeing are people still saying happy new year? Bro, there are people still saying happy new year.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Like, I feel like um it's like um some people that you haven't seen on when the new year started. But I've met a couple of people who've already told me happy new year, and we see each other again, they're like, Oh, happy new year. Like, bro, what's happy about it?

SPEAKER_05 4:54

Imagine like getting back with somebody you like thought you moved on with from a happy new year text. Is that even possible? I saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's possible.

SPEAKER_09 5:02

Yeah, I I saw I saw Savannah.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Savannah made that, and I was like, Happy New Year's text, and it's pretty true. Yeah, it's pretty, it's just like how most people get back into relationships after happy birthday text.

SPEAKER_09 5:14

Yeah, happy birthday text.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Like, happy birthday, and you're like, oh, yeah, happy new year, y'all, any happy new year, happy new year. I hope you, I hope you were, you've been good. Yeah, I have, and you? Yeah, yeah, some notamongesi. How are you being? Let's catch up a little bit. We need to see each other.

SPEAKER_09 5:30

Yo, lucky me now.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Like, I've personally it's not happened that I get back with someone because of a happy new year text. Like, what? Does that text come with a car? No.

SPEAKER_05 5:39

Damn, put it in Chinel. Fuck that shit.

unknown 5:43

Fuck that shit.

SPEAKER_05 5:45

It's okay. It's okay.

SPEAKER_06 5:47

I'm not with you another.

SPEAKER_05 5:50

Man, it's been a long time coming. Guys, the advocate of women who love the gym. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Yes. I agree there.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

I mean, uh, it's Laura was my very first guest, guys. She was the very first guest of the No Troll D podcast. It's actually insane that I've known her for this long now.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Right, it is insane. Um so, in the circumstance you ever hear Sean say no one ever believed in me, bro, slap the fuck out of him.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

What do you mean? Slap the fucking Sean. Because yeah. Nora has this way of underestimating me and complimenting me at the same time. She has had this habit ever since I met her.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

I think this episode is about him inventing.

SPEAKER_05 6:37

No, no, no, no, no, no, it's a no, no, no, no, no, no. Actually, now I'm actually used to it. Like, it doesn't even bother me even one bit. Like, I know matter of fact, actually, sometimes she doesn't even mean it, she just says it because it's her nature to it. It's your nature to say it.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

I really appreciate that you've understood that. Because I was like, I don't know when Sean is gonna understand that I'm not gonna stop and I'm not gonna change. Like, the fuck? And I'm joking, so he's gonna understand I'm joking anyway.

SPEAKER_05 7:01

I'm actually okay. Like I've made peace.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

You're made peace with a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05 7:06

You traumatize me, girl.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

I think I've helped you become stronger. No, no, no, don't even don't even know. Give me credit where it's due, but you would you would want to like I don't appreciate you or I don't believe in your credit.

SPEAKER_05 7:23

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

The truth of the matter is.

SPEAKER_05 7:26

Okay, keep ex- keep explaining. Keep explaining.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

The truth of the matter is Sean has always been, I wouldn't want to say soft, but I want to say he sometimes does not care, and you need to not care.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

And I think I came into Sean's life to show him that you cannot care and life can go on. Or someone can say something and you can just put in the back of your mind and you still have a great day. Because I would know, I know what I would do to Sean. I know. I'll just piss him off. Like, what are you gonna do? I'll piss him off and I'll rage bait him or to make sure like he knows he's like Paka, he gets the point. He's like, you know what, Laura, fine. And then, you know, like you see, the more you keep on doing it, you're like, you know, you get to the point you're like, you're looking at me, you're like, you're not phasing me, Laura. I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't be phasing you, because who the fuck am I to be phasing you? I just say a little thing here and there, you're already pissed for who? Why, why? Who am I? Who are you? Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

It's not good. See what I'm dealing with? Exactly. But yeah, back to her intro, guys. She interrupted the intro.

SPEAKER_09 8:26

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 8:27

But Laura, guys, is a media personality, I guess, now. I wanna know how long we're gonna be doing this for.

SPEAKER_10 8:34

Girl! Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:36

Oh, okay, okay. Uh, she's also a gym shark. She's been going at it at the gym for the longest. I'm actually, she's, you know, do you understand that a lot of girls look at you and be like, oh, I wanna be like Gloria, man.

SPEAKER_09 8:49

I like that. Yeah, you should. Pretty amazing, honestly.

SPEAKER_05 8:53

Yeah, because like, like from your the way you you're you work, you know, get your own money and type shit, you know what I mean? And uh how you like hit the gym all the time, flexing your body all the time. Eee. Bro, boy, it's scary out here. Nah, nah, you're you're right, you're right, you alright. Yeah I mean, uh let's talk about your like fitness journey. How what made you like honestly dive into it like fully?

SPEAKER_02 9:16

I'm not gonna lie. Um, I've been from a young age, I would do sports in school, like either track or football. Okay. Just running, running matters. So at school I always had like a place to go and work out, like in one way or another, just to get my body moving. And then after school, and I started uni. Like, I didn't have much of that. And I'm really fat phobic, like like to myself. Like, I can be I can be friends with with people who are like borderline overweight, but I cannot see myself. Um, and this is very serious. Like, I'm not even trying to troll or nothing.

SPEAKER_09 9:54

We're not trolling here.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Like, not at all. So if I see that I I think I got really comfortable sometime 2023 or 2022, late of 2022, going 2023. Like, I really got comfortable. I think it was 2024, actually. No, my timeline is is kind of bad. I got comfortable and I'm like, I don't like how I'm seeing Yama. Like, I don't like, I mean, I wasn't fat. Oh, but yeah, I remember he's saying yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

Yeah, yeah, I remember because remember when we went to Mbudia. Yeah, I think I told you you look like slimmer now. Remember? The Mudia, you were like kicked up.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Yeah. So like I mean so good. Eve when I just see some in on a nyama z make us flying. I'm like, bro, I gotta, I gotta go get this together because the more comfortable you get, then we're like, Why pay that's really like in the cuckoo you pay and I mean in the gym. So I didn't have anyone push me into it. I just like bro, I remember I was working at an apartment building that had like a gym, and I was like, I can just use this gym for free. Like, why why should I think like, oh, it's gonna be expensive for me? So that's where I started. And after that, I just had to keep on going, and now I'm paying for memberships. Like, I like but but you gotta do it to stay, stay hot. And I don't wanna I don't ever wanna be fat in my life. Ever in my life.

SPEAKER_05 11:14

Damn, that's a statement. I'm so serious. That's a statement right there.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

I'm so serious.

SPEAKER_05 11:18

How are your kids? She's a mother guy than a grandma, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Bro, I have little cats. I'm a cat lady. You know, living alone, you might go crazy. I'm not even gonna lie. Living alone, yeah, when she won yeah, huna kun geanaya, mimin's the one-bedroom apartments, and I'm Michael, Girani, no ba chunvi, girani, no ba passi. I'm now mambo. You could go crazy. So I think four months into living alone, I got myself a couple of cats. I got myself two cats, and I have two cats, but not the same. And I love my cats. They keep me company. I talk to them to nafoqueana. I think it's nice. Rather than have a man in your house, rather have a cat.

SPEAKER_05 12:01

You know, women who have pets, man, like they always have this. Nah, man, like, like, but I hear that there's a hack to it. I've heard the hack. The hack? Act like you care.

SPEAKER_09 12:13

You care for the pets. Yeah, yeah, actually that could be.

SPEAKER_05 12:16

That could actually work, man. Like, mind you, going there, busy, give that cat food.

SPEAKER_09 12:21

Come on, you'll be sending my love.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

You have no idea. Come on. Someone get away.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

Someone get away, someone get some, somebody's getting some, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 12:32

But it's all good, like now he's he's being for real. Like, if you're a guy and you're trying to see a girl that's got pets, just go bring her like dog food, cat food, street cat toys, dog toys.

SPEAKER_05 12:42

Or go go take her to a restaurant where they can have their dogs. Bro, come on, like, like come on, yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Oh, like you really looked up that I I can bring my dog in here.

SPEAKER_05 12:53

When you actually think about the dating scene, it's all about mind games in the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:58

In the beginning has to be mind games.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

In the beginning, yeah, of course. You gotta you gotta have a couple of tricks up your sleeves to keep a girl, to literally keep a girl. Entertained, satisfied, entertained, satisfied, appreciated, like obviously, respected. Like, you know, some people run a strict program. So, come back, you're just saying, Comba, I'm gonna be doing it in the beginning. The moment she sees you lacky, she's like, Why are you like you used to do this again now? You don't do this, so that's okay, okay, okay, okay. Gotta keep it going.

SPEAKER_05 13:29

Like, you need to maintain the vibe you introduced. I don't disagree with that. Yeah, but there's compromise, and you also have to understand he was trying to win me over. Don't be stupid.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

I mean, if you come here, you want you're trying to talk for two months, and every week of us talking for those two months before you get into a relationship, you're getting me flowers every week.

SPEAKER_05 13:51

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

I mean, there's compromising, but then so saunata me is the sita kuna mawa. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

Nah, nah, nah, that's crazy. That's crazy. I feel like there's a level of affection a nigga has to show their girl, of course.

SPEAKER_06 14:05

End of the day.

SPEAKER_05 14:05

Yeah. And uh, but expecting the same consistency as when I was trying to get you, that's unrealistic.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

I don't know. People can maintain it.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

For how long though?

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Forever. Forever.

SPEAKER_05 14:20

Okay, keep telling yourself.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

You see, I'm telling you, there are people that can actually maintain the vibe.

SPEAKER_05 14:27

I'm not saying, but expecting it from everybody.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

You introduce me to the vibe. I'm confused. No, no, no, okay. This is why niggas get dumped.

SPEAKER_11 14:37

Listen, listen, this is why niggas get dumped.

SPEAKER_05 14:39

Listen, listen, listen. Compromise. You don't have you don't have to assume with that with every nigga you're with. No?

SPEAKER_02 14:47

Yeah, I will do that though. I will assume with every nigga I'm with, because why would I be with a nigga that is not doing the things that I want them to do and consistently? Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:59

But yeah, welcome back on the show, man.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_05 15:02

That was the intro.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

I always love being back. I enjoy speaking to Sean either on the phone or in person or on the pod. Yeah, it's a good time. It's always good.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

We had a rocky, rocky journey, me and her.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

Yeah, but we're here now, so alhamdulillah.

SPEAKER_05 15:18

We're all doing good actually.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Alhamdulillah. Yeah. How are you doing? How's work? I'm doing great. Work is great. Um I've gotten back into radio and I love the people that I work with. I think that's very important, number one. Like, obviously, the people that you work with, you gotta make sure. I love the people that I work with. I love the pay that I'm getting. I love what I'm doing. And I feel I probably have found like a purpose. I found something that I actually would like to, like a career.

SPEAKER_05 15:54

I remember you you had trouble figuring that out.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

Yeah, like I've never had a passion for anything.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

You're just winging it.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Bro, it's actually crazy. Like, no, I've actually not ever been passionate about so many things. But this that I'm getting into, it's a it's a vibe that I can maintain. It's who, it's me. I don't have to change up. Any si badiliki badili, salute funny if you wanna get naive. Ah, yeah, man. We we we I think it's a compromising relationship. Actually, compromise fit my expectations if I am to work on radio. And I'm so excited, I can't wait for you guys to listen to me on air. Oh, it's not air yet? It's not airing yet. It's it's airing, it's airing. Don't worry. By the time this episode is out, by the time this episode is out, it will be a good one.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

Shout out the frequency then.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Play what a 2.9! Come on, is you talking about? So, um, you know, you guys listen. It's gonna be super fun.

SPEAKER_05 16:52

How long do you see yourself like being in the media?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Um, I don't know. Until like um five years. It could be longer, it could be not. The thing is, like, if I if I yeah, money. If I get married to a rich man, you guys are never seeing me on social media again.

SPEAKER_05 17:14

Really?

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

For real.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

You guys have no idea. I'm so serious. I think so. Yeah, I think, I think like if I you may you might see me, but I'm not like gonna be doing it. I'm gonna be doing it for fun, like you know, posting myself.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

What if, okay. I feel like when you grow a business out of if you like makeup, ever get a business on it, you won't have the leverage to do that. Because imagine you're building your whole baby, right? Right, yeah, yeah. And then you'd be like, I'm married.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

So deuces. But I would prefer that. I would love, like, I would love just like to disappear for some time.

SPEAKER_05 17:47

It's always good to do that, uh, depending on your line of work. Uh, apparently, I don't have the leverage.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

All right. So don't have the advantage. But um, but yeah, I think I'll just stick to media. I know at some point I'm gonna get into business. I'm not gonna talk about exactly what it could be, but I know I'm gonna get into business. So probably I'm gonna have to use my platform as well. You've raised a fair point. So I don't know, guys. Unless like I get a multimillionaire who just retires me for life at age 27.

SPEAKER_05 18:15

Okay, what is something that's helping you like navigate the whole thing? Like the whole job, um, the whole entertainment, being in the entertainment industry. What do you think helps you manage it? Like navigate it?

SPEAKER_02 18:26

The need for money. I told you I'm not passionate about most stuff.

SPEAKER_05 18:29

Like, I'm not gonna lie, like I was hoping to get a motivation. No!

SPEAKER_02 18:35

No, I have I don't have the luxury to be like I don't have the luxury to be like, oh bro, most of the things that I do, like, that's why, like, if it wasn't for me to get money, I'd be in my house, I'd be in my crib. Um, I do have a creative bone, but I don't pick at it constantly. Like, I'm not I've I'm I'm really I'm not um Just a girl. I I don't wanna say that. I'm just no I I am a lady, but I I've not I've not dug up my potential.

SPEAKER_05 19:06

Like if it's what do you think is holding you back from that?

SPEAKER_02 19:09

Um I don't know. Um I'm not in a rush with life. And life, honestly, that's the thing about me that I've also realized.

SPEAKER_05 19:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I'm not in a rush. I'm not like, oh, I'm way behind. I have to do this. I think for me, always it just comes a time I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do this. Okay, I'm gonna get into this.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

You basically go with your vibe.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

I go with my vibe. I don't wanna see people around me that are doing this or they're doing that. I'm like, now I gotta do this, now I gotta do it. Fuck you. Like, good for you. I'm happy for you that you know you found your purpose, but just because you found your purpose doesn't mean now I have to start searching for mine. Mine will come, mine will come. Like, you know what, money will come now. That's me with my fate and destiny. I don't wanna rush things, I don't wanna do things like I just inside me, deep inside me. I know with time. I know with time things will just align perfectly. And they're already aligning. You know what I'm saying? Things are things are coming, like you know, it really did take patience. Like, I had to be patient.

SPEAKER_05 20:08

Yeah, it does take patience and really you need to just give yourself grace.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

I may give myself grace all the time. Like, I give myself a lot of grace, maybe more than I need to give myself, but I think it helps me navigate because sometimes I talk to my peers, they're like, oh, I'm really, I don't know where I am in life, I don't know what to do. Like, no, a lot of people. No, it's actually crazy. People our ages are so pressured on trying to figure out who they want to be in life, trying to figure out how they can manage life and make money and make a life for themselves. And sometimes just telling them that, you know, you need to give yourself grace, or you just need to understand that with time things can align. Sometimes that answer is not enough for everyone. So it is a a struggle that most of the people our age are going through.

SPEAKER_05 20:51

What do you think is like causing that pressure? Like a lot of people are going through that pressure. Like, what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 20:58

I know that it's just comparison, you know. This is comparison games, social media and stuff. Because like if you were, if Sean, you all your life you lived in um, they had Zabi tribe and you were just chilling, you had no social media, the people, your peers, they you know, they go and hunt and they come back and fuck their wives and chill and roast some meat. Would you be pressured with life? No. But then because you have your phone, you see some 20-year-old talk about I just bought my mom a house.

unknown 21:30

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

What do you mean you just bought your mother's house, age is 20? So some people see that and they're like, bro, I need to be at the level that this guy's at. But you don't know what this guy has done. You don't know the mentality that this guy has, you don't know the focus he has. Oh, I need to be at the level that Sean is at. Levels of these things because if you keep on comparing comparing yourself to people, I found you my shell.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

And the thing is, yeah, people only show you what they they want you to see. End of the day, that part too. People don't come people don't understand. Like trying to look at what people are showing. People are showing you their like the good 20% you're seeing. The 80, the roughness, the no sleep, the being broke.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Why should they ever show you that? Nah. That's the thing. So I think at the end of the day is that you need to understand you live your own life. Everyone has their own story already written. Your fate is already like decided. Some of us are gonna end up rich, some of us are gonna end up poor, some of us are gonna end up dead before tomorrow. It's actually crazy. So give yourself grace and just know that with time your things will unfold. And if they don't, then that was your life. It's very simple.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

Do you think you have a like a non-negotiable that comes to working with different people?

SPEAKER_02 22:58

I cannot work with people who are sexually charged. Like we get at work and like all right, oh my god. You're fucking annoying me. You're fucking annoying me. You're getting off my game, you're pissing me off. Um because when your work is work, of course I can joke. Like, yeah, you know, I'm like in this don't push it too much, it gets uncomfortable, and it's like nanny boa, and money boa. So that's a non-negotiable. Like if you're too sexually charged at work, that doesn't make sense. Like, what the fuck? To me. I think yeah, there's those non-negotiable. Pretty much anything else I think I can work.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

Like But I think do you feel like uh it's on you people getting uh like people like making those type of habits around you?

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Not really. Like just because I'm an attractive woman, that's not my fault. I was born this way. Um if I made a play at you at work and joke like, oh, can I touch that? Then and you coming back sexually charged towards me, that would be my fault. Okay but me just simply existing and you want to keep on making all these sexual sexual jokes, that's on you, you dumbass.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

Like you said, fucking idiots. Yeah, it's a turn-off, honestly. Yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying. I wonder if men get arrested.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Yeah, like you just have to be really handsome. I feel like men would like it. No, some don't. Like, I know a really handsome guy that would complain about the concept women that would be like, and some some some of them are like it's just annoying.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

Some of us were just regular dudes, bro.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Just regular dudes. No, no sexually charged women coming towards you. No, not Sean, fuck me!

SPEAKER_05 24:50

No, no, no, you get constant like those in the Kenya.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

I saw I I saw the Kenyan one, bro. I was I was I can't explain. I'm gonna cry right now from laughing too hard. Shorties, shorties are like, this is mine, bro.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

And the and the thing is, that's that's the only one I showed on camera. Like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't I didn't record while we were at the club. You guys went to the club! Went to the club.

SPEAKER_08 25:17

Shorty wanted a piece of meat so bad.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

But no, respect to her.

SPEAKER_05 25:20

No, no, no. Not not them. Ah, okay. Some of the girls. Yeah, some of the girls. Okay. It was actually crazy. Because usually I'm usually inside. I rarely go out. And apparently uh I've changed a lot, and the people don't see me the same way, I think. Because in the beginning, I was never getting awkwardness when I'm getting encounters outside. People aren't awkward with you.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Yeah. But now people are awkward with you because they're like, oh my god, it's Sean. Is that the case? I don't know. That could be the case. Sean Sean is a big shot.

SPEAKER_05 25:51

Yeah, so basically, I do get like random DMs that random comments. I just so people saying, Why is Sean looking final days? What's wrong with him?

SPEAKER_02 26:01

Yeah, Sean's getting dressed. Sean is getting some good clothes, Sean is getting good cologne, Sean is getting good music taste. Sean is being put on. I know Sean is being put on. Put on two? I know you're putting Sean on. And it's great. Like, thank God. Because it got to like, yeah, it's nice that you found your style. You know, you found your style.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Yeah, I got two stylists. Shout out to my boy uh BM and Lupe.

unknown 26:25

Ooh!

SPEAKER_05 26:26

Yeah, so they they put me on to good uh outfits, but everything else is just me evolving and getting to you know this last year was my year of figuring myself out, actually.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

I could tell, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:38

What do you mean you could tell? Sean, I I don't want to sound like you're so good, and you are that I know so yeah, when you're gonna talk to go on start yo! Has shown me. The things I've seen, the things she's done in front of me. Oh my god, man.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Don't listen to the boy, guys, for real. But but I'm grateful that uh she definitely had uh I think I've got an um a front seat to the decline of previous Sean and to the re the reborn of new Sean. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, so I I would do agree that last year was probably the year you because I have photos of you from 2024, and then like it's just like a couple of months difference, and then it's basically the difference is him quitting that job he hated. You understand what I'm saying? That was the only difference. Like, if he did not quit that job, he would still be wearing bright blue and some plaid shirt right now. I'm being so dead ass. But thank god, somebody's gonna quit the job for real.

SPEAKER_05 27:54

I never done, bro. I've been yo.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Oh god.

SPEAKER_05 27:59

I'm even getting hard right now. Every time I open my Snapchat, I go to our chat, right?

SPEAKER_10 28:08

Yeah, I see that one video, and I'm like, ah I'm saving! I'm saving, bro.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Yeah, I think the one at the studio or something, basically just like memories.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

Nah, nah, the in our chat.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Ah, bro, I don't know. I don't know. If I say that.

SPEAKER_05 28:24

I'm glad you don't even remember because I'll go through our chat. No, don't do that. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_09 28:29

You don't even gotta, you don't gotta worry about it, baby.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

But oh my god, it's been a journey, man.

SPEAKER_09 28:33

It has been a journey.

SPEAKER_05 28:34

I'm truly grateful, man. It's I'm truly grateful to the point I've got in my life right now.

SPEAKER_09 28:39

You have to.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

And yeah, I've been learning to give myself grace. Because I've all I'm I've always been too hard on myself, honestly.

SPEAKER_09 28:46

You have?

SPEAKER_05 28:46

You are yeah, but it it has helped me and also like held me back a little bit. So now I think we're we're we're trying to like balance the the scale type shit. Yeah, amazing. But uh yeah. Um how do you see yourself like how do you see it this year going for you this year?

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Show like goes really well. And you know, make a make a lot of money. Travel here and there though.

SPEAKER_05 29:12

Yeah, I travel. Um it feels good to like travel on your own shit.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Yeah, like you don't have to worry, like, oh, do you got me?

SPEAKER_05 29:20

I actually wanted to move to Kenya. I was this close. Critos did the thing. We were talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Critos got dough like that, critics got it like that, critics got a critical live.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

It actually actually really affordable. Yeah, I can afford living in Kenya if I decided.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah. Well, of course. I mean it would be great to I wouldn't say completely move mode.

SPEAKER_05 29:43

No, I can't move, I can't move, I can move.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

I mean stay for a while, do your creative stuff, then come back home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:49

Because like transport is cheaper there.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Really?

SPEAKER_05 29:52

Apartments are cheaper there. You get me?

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Is it because of the economy? So the cost of living is also just the market is saturated.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

So everybody's on something. So it's it's a competition.

SPEAKER_09 30:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:06

So when because like I've been I've been home hunting for the longest, and I I I actually have a lead now. Crossing my finger, you know what I mean? Amen. Um, but um, when I got there, I got cheaper stuff in towns like Masaki, Oster Bay, the Kenyan version.

SPEAKER_08 30:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:24

I was like, damn, it's actually so easy to move. But since um my whole career is based on being Tanzanian, and um I wanna rep this country. Somebody gotta pave away or some shit now.

SPEAKER_09 30:38

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_05 30:39

We got to put Tanzania on the map.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

As much as other countries are really welcoming and cheap and whatnot, home is home, and then home is home.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

Like I wouldn't live anywhere else but Tanzania. Oh, I remember the video. Did you take that down?

SPEAKER_09 30:54

Why would I take it down?

SPEAKER_05 30:57

There's a video, there's a video Lower saying, Oh my god, I wouldn't want to live anywhere. And I mean it to this day.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Yeah, yeah, but you're right. I wouldn't want to be anywhere but Tanzania, of course. Yeah, there are things that happen in the middle that kind of made my statement seem as though it was null, but it's still very country go through it. I wouldn't say every country. Yeah, I wouldn't say every country, but you know, what whatever it is, like it would not deter me, like it wouldn't it wouldn't deter me from loving my country.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

I love my country, I love the people. I don't know about but I love my country and love the people, you know?

SPEAKER_05 31:35

I'm a bleep dad.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

I'm a fucking bleep dad. You see what you did? I've never had a bleepless show in Lauren. I've never had a bleepless show. But I love my people and I love my country.

SPEAKER_06 31:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

At the end of the day, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_05 31:52

I'm gonna ask you like a personal question.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 31:56

Um how do you pick yourself up when you're down bad?

SPEAKER_02 32:01

How do I pick myself up when I'm really down?

SPEAKER_05 32:03

Yeah, because I've seen when you know, I've actually seen a video you call yourself crying. On that, and that in that was that like a little edit.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

I wouldn't say I was crying. I said I would say I was crashing out. I wouldn't say I was crying, like the way you said it. Yeah. Um, sometimes, yeah, I have my lows. Like I have my lows, and sometimes my lows are really low. I try to see my friends. Like my friends are low key, my light. You know, you see your friends and you you see your sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 32:35

I know how she values for you.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

I get to see them for just one night. I'm like, you know, my friends have picked me up, but then sometimes I don't really have to see my friends. Sometimes it has to dawn on myself. Like, you know, you could be sad now and you'd sulk and cry about it, but you got work to do. Like, you I really don't have the luxury of being depressed because the moment sometimes I have my lows and I just come and over. I don't wanna be on the internet. I don't wanna like keep on looking at my screen and typing messages or replying to people, but I have to do it because how am I gonna keep on getting gigs? How am I gonna keep on making my money if I'm not putting myself out there? So when I am down, I try to remember that at the end of the day, like I gotta it's it's my life I'm living. So if I want to live a sad life, I'll keep on staying in my room and crying about it. But if I wanna keep on elevating and I want to keep on doing better in my life, and I want to keep on achieving the things that I've set to achieve the year of, I'm gonna have to get up. So sometimes my friends, and sometimes just mere common sense. It hurts, like it hurts when I'm like, like, I I actually have to like keep on fucking doing this. But you keep on doing it, you're like, fuck, like that was that was nothing. Like actually, I'm I'm actually really good. I can keep on doing whatever it is that I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 33:59

Uh it's it's never as bad as it seems.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Yeah, it's never as bad as it is at the moment.

SPEAKER_07 34:07

You're going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

When you look back at it, you're like, you know, like, yeah, it was painful, but you definitely it was necessary. Sometimes it's that it's necessary, and you look at you look back at it and you're like, I would definitely in every life be able to overcome that. And I'm glad I did.

SPEAKER_05 34:23

One thing um I dealt with like in the in the journey of figuring my shit out. I was so insecure about friends. Like, I was so I always felt like I'm left out because I don't have enough friends. I don't have many friends. You know, growing up, I um my brother had a lot of my brother was always always constantly texting on calls and plans, and then I'm like, yo, like who are you how many people do you know? Because he went to different schools and stuff like that. So he had he had a lot of exposure with different people, and he was he had he made a lot of friends. So growing up, I was like, I'm I don't have friends as well. And that made me sadly step into that made me stick into the wrong crowd for the longest.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

Yeah, that's you picking anyone.

SPEAKER_05 35:14

Yeah, yeah. I I guard.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

I was like, you know, you can be my friend. No, you like the vibe, yeah. We could be, we could chill. Exactly. You want to hang out? Yeah, I mean our personalities are different and we have different insights in life, but yeah, we can hang out. That's that was showing. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:29

Good phrasing it like that.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Like, because that's what you was doing.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

So basically, for the longest I was in that rabbit hole, just like it was uh you know, not knowing yeah, I was literally just going with the flow, yeah, and people were like, Why are you hanging out with these people?

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Like, you're not so different from you.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Because you know, sometimes sometimes, yeah, people need to realize on their own. Like, you know, like I understand, I understand.

SPEAKER_05 36:05

Yeah, for sure, for sure. I had I definitely had to figure it out in my own. I feel like if somebody told me, I I wouldn't probably be too keen about it as I was when I realized it on my own.

SPEAKER_04 36:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:15

So when I did that, it's not like I said, fuck you guys, I'm cutting you off on my life.

unknown 36:19

No.

SPEAKER_05 36:20

I just learned how to place people in my life.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Yeah, that's that's exactly how it is, you know. Some people are great to be around, but they don't add anything in your life.

SPEAKER_05 36:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Like, you're fun, yeah, you're we're funny, we laugh. Like in the mchango, kid yon take a kongrema demo, kidakung, kid yon taka kongria ma taco, tela kunipa ma shin wuna, nyambia comba bro na funny kona podcast. And that's that's that's that's how you know.

SPEAKER_05 36:49

That's how you know. What's the what's the craziest thing? Sometimes it's the closest people who underestimate you the most.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Yeah. Which is like, why?

SPEAKER_05 36:59

Why is this world so cruel?

SPEAKER_02 37:02

The people you pick, one uh, it's the people you pick.

SPEAKER_05 37:04

Yeah. So yeah, not every not that that was literally a generalization. Oh, yeah. Because like that was of course I have experiences because I picked, like, I didn't pick my friend's card, right? I'm not saying I'm not the people have.

SPEAKER_11 37:17

And I say my fuck you guys.

SPEAKER_05 37:19

Nah, nah, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.

unknown 37:21

Hey!

SPEAKER_05 37:22

I love everybody who's in my life right now. So if you if you're in my life, you know yourself. You don't have to point fingers, eh?

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 37:30

Nah. No, I'm not the type to cut anybody off. I'm too of a, I'm not saying I'm not nice. I'm not this year and last year, I stopped being a nice guy. I became a good guy.

SPEAKER_09 37:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 37:45

I'm a good guy. Don't fuck with me. If you fuck with me, I I just like fingers off. Get the fuck out of my face.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:52

You get me? Being nice, I was just saying yes to everything, even if it affected me. I don't have money.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

Let's go, let's go. Okay, so no worries. I'll I'll find a way, bro. Find a way, I'll come through. Find a way, what is good.

SPEAKER_05 38:09

So for the longest, I've just been people pleasing, and I dealt with it. I even said this in my last couple episodes. Y'all know this about me. I did go through that, and now I'm finally uh I can say free from that curse. And uh, and ever since I started taking care of myself, uh putting myself first.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

You're attracting what makes sense now. Cindy. Like, yeah, like obviously, that's the case. You value yourself, you put yourself to a certain standard. The people that come into your life, they will want to maintain the standard you've kept for yourself. Well, come on, you should fly any via. You don't love yourself as much. The people that are gonna come in your life are gonna just treat you.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

And the people you surround yourself affect your damn life. Truly. Yo, like I know you, oh, a banana mimi, I'm different. Like, bro. The people you're constantly around with are going to affect how you think, how you act, how you talk, how you you respect other people. You know, because a lot of niggas don't have a tendency of respecting each other, whether it's women or men. Like people don't like respecting each other for some reason. And I know it comes to like you know, you gotta respect everybody. And in this game, if you're a creator like myself, please put respect first. Like above it's up there, top five. Maybe they're not the first thing you should prioritize, but it's up there. Because with the respect comes with uh having good relationships, yeah, uh people recommending you, uh, people wanting to support you because you respect us. You have respect, you're generally a good guy. Because and the way I was raised, Laura, is always be respectful and a gentleman. So I feel like for people who know me as me, they know who I am.

SPEAKER_09 39:57

So yeah. That's good.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

If you're a person who's uh seeking help, uh please stay tuned uh in uh in uh c for the episodes that are coming on. Oh, this is episode 81! Oh my god! Oh my god! Give me some love, man. Damn.

SPEAKER_08 40:21

I guess it took you like 30 minutes that's why I'm not impressed.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

Because I was focused on you. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 40:31

All right, that's fine then.

SPEAKER_10 40:35

I wasn't thinking about the math. Congratulations, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

81 episodes in what three years three years in March. I'm I'm yeah, I know my stuff.

SPEAKER_05 40:48

Yo! Yeah, yeah, it's my third anniversary of the podcast in March.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

What did you know that man? I know.

SPEAKER_05 40:55

Oh my god, yeah, serves her right because she was a first guest, you know what I mean? And there's a lot of events coming up for the podcast as well. The company's growing. I have a company, told you about that. Yeah, we have um things coming in. So back to what I was saying, if you need help, we have therapists, doctors coming in in the episodes.

SPEAKER_09 41:14

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 41:15

It was actually hard to find professionals actual therapists, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 41:20

And doctors.

SPEAKER_05 41:21

Doc? Yo, come on.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

We got doctors, like Tanzanian doctors. Yes. Oh, Tanzanian doctors.

SPEAKER_05 41:26

And the thing is, they were shout out to the 9 to 5 Warriors, man. I have a big audience on 9 to 5 Warriors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I appreciate it, man. And some of them actually recommended the doctors because the other episodes I was talking about. I need to, we need to learn more about the human brain, man. We need to learn about psychology, we need to learn about stuff that's going on with our bodies. How do you lose it? Fan. We gotta find a doctor who's specializing in that because we gotta like add knowledge. Come on, we're all smart here. No trollers are smart. Come on, fuck is he talking about? Sour shots. So, yeah, we're gonna be having professionals coming in, man.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Doctors, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 42:00

It's gonna be it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

Honestly, I'm curious to see what they can say and what they can inform your crowd. Yeah, like I'm pretty sure it's gonna be superficial.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

I don't know if I'm being selfish because I wanna learn stuff, man. And with through me, everyone is gonna learn. Yeah, exactly. I feel like if you watch me, you're a little bit like me.

SPEAKER_09 42:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:20

Yeah. Because why are you sitting two hours watching Sean?

SPEAKER_09 42:23

Because you're a little bit like Sean.

SPEAKER_05 42:24

Yeah, exactly. Oh, you're relating to the guest.

SPEAKER_09 42:28

Yes. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 42:30

Okay, um, back to the pod. Have you ever got someone?

SPEAKER_11 42:37

I don't like the way you ask questions, then you're giggling in the between. You're bothering me. Because now I know that's about you. It's not a stupid question.

SPEAKER_05 42:44

Okay, listen, it's not a stupid question.

SPEAKER_11 42:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 42:46

Have you ever had someone you're so afraid rocking the boat with because you were afraid you'll push them away?

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Oh, yeah. Some people are too good.

SPEAKER_05 42:55

Too good of a friend. So like, like, are you talking about friendship or are you talking about somebody like you were you wanted to rock the boat with so bad.

SPEAKER_09 43:04

When you say rock the boat, can you please phrase like translate that?

SPEAKER_02 43:10

I don't know, like chilling, like being rock. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 43:13

I wouldn't ask being in a sexual relationship or in a relationship.

SPEAKER_12 43:17

Can I can I Google chat? Can I can I ask chat if that's that's the right expression for the idiom you just said?

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Rocking the boat?

SPEAKER_02 43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:25

That's my version.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

Ah, that's your version. Okay, we're gonna this is according to Sean's version. Rocking the boat is like being with someone either in any form of relationships. Yes, I would say sexually, yeah. Like sexually. Ooh, fuck.

SPEAKER_05 43:39

Okay, the list is long, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

What? No! No one is saying that!

SPEAKER_05 43:43

The list is long. No one says that. We move on to the next question.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

No, let me answer. Imagine that someone watching this after shon has not let me answer.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

Okay, no, no, no, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

I'm my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. There, yeah, of course, the uh uh there's a person that I didn't want to be. Closer than a sexual relationship with because I felt like he was really good.

SPEAKER_05 44:07

Like he was You don't like good guys, Laura?

SPEAKER_02 44:09

No, that's not the case. Like, first of all, it's not just him like being a good guy. It's that we are just a little bit different, you know? Oh, okay. We're different. Because sometimes you need to be with someone who's had the same background as you.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

Be realistic.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Yeah, you gotta be realistic. And as good as it was when we were together, I just knew in the long term, it's gonna be difficult because we come from two different places. We've lived two different childhoods. But it's fun being together. But you know, at the end of the day, like you need to. There's some places to na kwa maka sababu atunaile reality check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Okay. So no mana, yeah. It's happened. So it's happened.

SPEAKER_05 44:47

It's really important to have a reality checker, apparently. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

All the time. Yeah. I mean, of course, like, you know, sunshine and rainbows when you first step and amazing. Like, when you want to get into something real with someone, you gotta be real. You gotta get real with yourself.

SPEAKER_05 45:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Because you don't wanna end up wasting people's time or yours as well.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

It was actually good when I made that decision.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

What decision did you make? Tell us here.

SPEAKER_05 45:12

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

I was um in a relationship, and then you had to like cut it off and not be together anymore because you guys were really far apart and just from different places.

SPEAKER_08 45:24

Is that it?

SPEAKER_05 45:25

Uh no. Oh, okay. It was just different background, different um What did I just say? No, no, I say I experienced that too.

unknown 45:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 45:35

Yeah, so just sharing my experience for her. Is that okay with you?

SPEAKER_02 45:39

No, actually, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05 45:43

Okay, okay. She don't give a shit. She don't give a shit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I just had to say it. No, I know you you just had to do something to ruin it. You know what I'm saying? Take the shine. I don't like one experience. Okay, what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

I'm sorry. But you did learn a lot from it. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 46:06

Just one experience. I learned to laugh. But yeah. We should have laughed this one in the experience.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

Stop.

SPEAKER_05 46:18

Oh, but but technically, man, I've realized, yeah, yeah, I I did need that experience in my life. Because, and now with that, even my standards are reason. I I feel like I'm a very serious person when I generally want to have a serious relationship.

SPEAKER_09 46:33

Yeah, you have to be a serious person when you have a serious relationship. And I'm I'm I'm glad I'm like that, you know? You should be like that.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

Yeah. Because there's some people your age, you know, they look at a girl, you know what? They lead her on, let's get in a relationship two months later. Bro, they see your girl, they see the their girl calling. Bro, like what does she want now? Bro, that's your girl. So don't be like those people. Do you see?

SPEAKER_05 46:55

Yeah, of course. I'm a I'm a I'm a yeah, you got nothing to worry about. You know that. I know, I know. Yeah. Uh do you see yourself having kids?

SPEAKER_02 47:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 47:03

How many?

SPEAKER_02 47:04

I don't know how many.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

No hesitation. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

I see, I see myself, you know, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:09

Okay, okay, okay. Let's be okay. Let's let's put some time frames in this shit. After how many years?

SPEAKER_02 47:19

So you come on and baby, daddy or husband, what are we talking about? Me, na jun dale. I mean, yeah, it would be great to not have a bastard. It would be great, you know. But even if I have a bastard, yeah, me and friends, uh, yeah, it's not that bad. Bastard is not that deep. I I yeah, you know, I like using the word bastard because me, I'm not a bastard.

SPEAKER_05 47:38

No, no, no. It's okay to be a bastard.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

Of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:42

You actually learned that from Game of Thrones?

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Yeah. You too? No, but I've I used it a lot more because of Game of Thrones. Game of Tones, you bastard! I was like, why the call is it? Basically, if you don't know what a bastard is, a bastard, yeah. A bastard is basically a person who's been born out of wedlock. But I mean, I'm not gonna go. I am in a relationship, and I'm I can picture the person that I'm with being the father of my kids, but you know, um you still have to figure out like financially wise, you know, you have to figure out the future, da da da. But I I love kids. Um I would I love my kids. I think I wanna say that. Cats. No, like I love my future kids. Oh.

SPEAKER_07 48:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Like I already know deep in my heart that I have a daughter that I love so much. Oh yeah. Like I I want so much.

SPEAKER_05 48:36

Yo, I feel like my daughter's gonna have this advantage over me.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

I hope you're like a bold dad.

SPEAKER_05 48:42

A bold dad?

SPEAKER_02 48:43

Yeah. That would be like, you know, bold dads. You know, you don't you know the stereotype about bold dads? Like, you know, bold dads, you know, hair, they're like, they're always like, they're like girl dads.

SPEAKER_05 48:55

I'm gonna be a bold dad. Like, cause I can see it. Like I can see it.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

You you baby girl her. Yo, like make the mom jealous.

SPEAKER_05 49:04

Listen, listen. My wife has to be the bad cop, man. Like, she has to be the bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

I don't know why every every the good guy's always saying this. Like, my wife is gonna be the one that's beating the kids. No, no, nigga.

SPEAKER_05 49:17

Brazy, my sons are gonna be, I'm gonna be tough on my sons. God damn it. You're gonna, I'm gonna be stingy with your ass. But my girls, man, like I feel like I cannot say no to a beautiful girl, man.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Especially that's yours, meaning mine.

SPEAKER_09 49:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:32

I don't know. Beautiful baby girl, dog. Like, I cannot, for the life of me, unless it's really necessary, I have to man up and be in a yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

As a parent, yeah. When you get to the point of being a parent, you know when it is okay to say yes to your child and when it is okay.

SPEAKER_05 49:47

And I feel like I'm gonna have a God bless willing, I'll have an amazing future, and my sons and daughters in the future are going to be raised in a good home. A healthy home. In shelter where our parents are an example of how they should live as in shelter. Yeah, because your parents affect your life, dog.

SPEAKER_12 50:07

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they do, they do.

SPEAKER_05 50:10

If you if you have a sh like a shitty upstart, man, um it does affect you, and you have to seek help. You can't seek help, man.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Like I mean, there's some people who have grown up with you know, that's the thing about life.

SPEAKER_05 50:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Um, some people have had experiences in their childhood. Maybe they grew up with abusive parents, or they grew up with just in general horrible parents, you know. But uh they didn't let how they grow how they grew up affect them or like translate them to who they are as a person now.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

True. I'm pretty sure they either one of these two options. Either they had help, or like they had like another parental figure in their life.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Yeah, perhaps. Yeah, that's that's usually the case. Like a guardian on a kutata, the sisters or the brother, older brothers.

SPEAKER_05 51:00

Hey, we don't we don't pick when we were born, man.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

Yeah, you don't pick where, who's your parents, pick up your laces, bro.

SPEAKER_05 51:05

Like tie your laces, I mean.

SPEAKER_07 51:07

And just move on. Move on.

SPEAKER_05 51:09

Because that's how that's how life is. I feel like navigating this life, especially being a Tanzanian guy, man. We we let we rarely think about us mental states, guys. I don't know why that is, but um we we like to term it Mambakizungo too white. It's called ignorance. Like there's no other term on it. Yeah, that is ignorance. And don't be ignorant, be be realistic with your life. If you're dealing with something, feel free to just seek for help. Don't be ashamed. I mean, it's not easy, don't get me wrong. Of course, yeah. That's a tough spoon to swallow. Like accepting your fate.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Woo! Accepting combat, you've gone through. You know, sometimes people have a coping mechanism of just like ignoring the past or ignoring the things that they've gone through, meaning combat, like, you know, I'll just I'll get over it, I'll get over it. But sometimes it just sticks to you, and it's really important that you do seek help if you can. But at the end of the day, it's also about breaking generational curses. So, as our generation, the people who are now getting into parenthood, for us to like at least stop people feeling this way or becoming traumatized is to just be really good parents. That's why I think I'll I'll make a great mother. I'd I'd make an amazing mom. I'd make a strict, nice mom who's cool sometimes and whatever. You know, I will yeah, I think I'll I'll whoop you here and there. Yeah, this is like a little bit. Sean wants to marry me.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

No, no!

SPEAKER_02 52:40

Sean says he wants to marry me today!

SPEAKER_05 52:43

No, listen, I'm saying the character willing to like whoop a kid, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 52:47

No, guys. So, you know, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_05 52:57

But you take document. What do you mean you don't want to say son, Laura?

SPEAKER_02 53:00

I mean, I don't want my first kid to be a boy.

SPEAKER_05 53:03

Why?

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Because I feel like boys that don't grow up with sisters take them very long to be. Like, yeah, that's the thing. You'd have to put in the work of being a mom more. Of course, that's a when you have an um, I don't know how to put I don't know how to explain this in. When you got dada, the guys that I know that don't have sisters, it takes them a really long time to humanize women. I'm so serious. I'm so serious. Most of the ones that I've met that don't have sisters, they don't have that compassion, they don't have that empathy when it comes to women. Because they never grew up with women. It's very difficult, like some most of the times. But when I the characters that I know, the men that I know that grew up with sisters, they have an understanding. And it couldn't be too funny if you don't have to explain to them.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

I grew up in an extended family, so I make it.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Alicia, um cousins when you need my auntie, the young aunties you lived with. I can kunt for my shake and make one back and make bass.

SPEAKER_05 54:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

A lot of masculinity in the house. So I think I that's why I want I I I will I want a son, but I don't want him to be the first. If I do have a son, I would want him to learn most of the things from his sister. That's how I would prefer. Yeah, that's why.

SPEAKER_05 54:23

Damn. I'd I'm curious to see the the new generation of parents.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

I know a couple of people that are pregnant. Oh my god, I'm so excited for some people. Yeah, like people at age are getting kids and everything, people getting married.

SPEAKER_05 54:58

You know what's crazy? You know, a lot of people don't understand how deep cartoons like Rick and Modi can get. Yeah. Yo. Like this line Rico's saying, like, I I don't care what you guys um what was it? Let me read it.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

I know, I know what you're saying. He said, every breath I take without your permission um raises my self-esteem. That's another one. He said, I don't, he said something about I I don't care for your booze. I've seen what makes you cheer.

SPEAKER_05 55:24

Cheer, yeah, exactly. That's the one that's one of my favorite. But one of that blew my mind and actually sat me down and to actually think about life was when you remember when they went to that hole?

SPEAKER_07 55:36

Which one?

SPEAKER_05 55:37

The curse where it replays their their fears. Tell me about it. Okay, so basically there was a guy in the suit. So Rick and Morty. You remember Rick is going, he's traumatized with the death of his wife, everything. So every time he goes to that hole, uh, he remembers that.

SPEAKER_09 55:52

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 55:53

So the clip was so basically the guy was talking to Morty, and like we're talking about love. I think I have a clip. Let me let me play it for you. For anybody who's listening, so they can um get the sense of what we're trying to say. I don't remember exactly because it's a long, it's like a whole minute. This nigga talking facts about life.

SPEAKER_02 56:13

Season seven?

SPEAKER_05 56:14

I think uh yeah, it's the last season.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

Yeah, that was season seven.

SPEAKER_05 56:18

Oh, guys, mind you, when I started talking to Laura, that was our like a like a middle ground wrecking Morty.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

Was it? Yes. You know, the thing is, you really need to remind me things from the past because I've realized I have like such horrible memories.

SPEAKER_05 56:31

Yeah, because yeah, yeah. And they say I do. The thing is, when I started talking to Laura, I was like so nervous. You know, I was like, I was a very shy guy.

SPEAKER_12 56:38

Pretty intimidating, you know.

SPEAKER_05 56:40

Yeah, no, not not really. I was just like nervous because I've never had like a bad bitch, like a friend. No, no b words! No b words! My bad, my bad, my bad. Okay. I just want to I mean in a good way. Like a bad bitch, like you know what I'm saying? I didn't mean like again, come on. Okay, come on. So I was your first badass friend.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

Yeah, I was a I was your first baddie friend, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 57:03

Baddie friend.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

No, don't say that.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

You're not a baddie though.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

I don't know, right? I'm just I'm just bad. Badass. Yeah, I'm badass.

SPEAKER_05 57:09

Yeah. Baddie is too girly.

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05 57:14

Too softy.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Okay, we can move on now. From the let's go to the Ricky Morty.

SPEAKER_05 57:20

Okay, okay, okay. Ricky Morty, Ricky Morty, Ricky Morty, where is he at?

SPEAKER_09 57:24

That was our level ground now, Ricky Morty.

SPEAKER_05 57:27

Ricky Morty, and I was uh so whenever I had like a Ricky Morty, that's where I called Laura.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Yeah, bro. Ricky Morty is really good. There's so many episodes you get to see with people, you know, different stories. There's just so much you can learn from these Adult Swim cartoons for real.

SPEAKER_05 57:44

Yeah, bro, like American Dad, family guy. Like, I'd I'd go on forever with this shit.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

There's this nice one, it's not from Adult Swim, but it's uh just an animation called Midnight Gospel. You should watch it. Midnight Gospel. Midnight Gospel. Now it's now that's deep. Like it it there's some some topics they speak of very deep.

SPEAKER_05 58:02

So listen, okay, I'll just put the mic here. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

At the same time. Listen, Mori, I need to.

SPEAKER_05 58:41

See how deep it is? Whoa. So at some point you have to live in the Lululand, guys.

SPEAKER_09 58:48

Yeah, that's the thing about.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

When you try to be real, if you try to be 100% real, it's gonna catch up to you, and the next thing that you know, the love that you have gets lost.

SPEAKER_05 58:58

Imagine two personalities reshaping each other until it's they're incompatible anymore.

SPEAKER_02 59:03

See how that deep it is?

SPEAKER_05 59:04

Yeah, and that's actually what happens because every time you're in a relationship, you guys reshape each other some way or form.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

And when it gets to the point where you guys leave each other, it's the point where like the reshaping is enough. Like now you guys are no longer compatible after all of the reshaping.

SPEAKER_05 59:22

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Imagine being in a relationship for nine years and then ending it all.

SPEAKER_12 59:27

Yeah, it happens. It's crazy. People have been in longer relationships and they've left each other.

SPEAKER_05 59:32

We wish the best for everybody that's listening. Uh we hope we have you live a happy ever after in your Delulola.

SPEAKER_07 59:38

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 59:39

Because the real world is nasty. But we're gonna play a game.

SPEAKER_07 59:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:42

You ready? Uh so I'm gonna basically give you statements and then you're gonna tell me if it's Tanzanian vibe or no. So it's is it TZ or not easy?

SPEAKER_08 59:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

Okay. Right, stalk their eggs out of curiosity. Is it easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

I think everyone most people stalk their eggs. Like most people in different countries, so I wouldn't say T Z cause Tanzanian is also involved. But you never catch me doing that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:13

Don't let her fool you. Don't let this look fool you.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

Tell them right now. Tell them right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:18

The next question.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

He has nothing to fucking say.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:21

Next question. I think I'm trying to prove myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

You ain't got nothing to prove.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:26

Okay, if you say so.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:27

Yeah, I do say so.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:31

Acting mysterious but needed the attention. Is that TZ or not teasy?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

Not easy. No, like acting mysterious but still needed the attention. What's that supposed to mean? Is that a Tanzanian vibe? Do you know any Tanzanian? I don't know, bro. I wouldn't act mysterious but want to get attention. I'm trying to relate it to me. I'm sorry. I'm trying to relate it to me because I am Tanzanian, but I have I've I've not tried to act mysterious to get attention. Maybe I tried to ignore you and you thought I was acting mysterious. Okay. And I got your attention regardless.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

Yeah. I mean like a lot of some party people.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Yeah, I mean, yeah. Of course, in party scenes, lab down to four thofut, illa utaki people, about utaki going up to people when they utaki to go up to people. Want people to go up to you up on uta you put on acting slab. It's not, yeah, it's not it's not much of a thing, honestly.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:36

Muted someone, but still check their page on Instagram or something like that. Is that easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:42

I would say it's easy, yeah. I think I've done that a couple of times. A couple. Yeah, I have. I think I I've I mute a lot of people. Gosh, I've muted them a lot. I can if I've if I get to the point of pack a man following you, but saying it's stuck on a stuck corner, stuck, stuck with you, and the reason we stuck you. I can't even try to mute and monzoni, one's only la banny.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:08

I have a friend who uh removes me from my following every time she pissed, she's pissed at me. She she removes you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

I mean, I'm most in relation. You wanna see me?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:24

Yeah, we I think I I'm at the point where I don't tolerate bullshit anymore. Yeah, like after you wanna uh like to post accidentally, then panicked.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:34

Very teasy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Very teasy. You know, sometimes you screw you you're like stalking someone's face. Okay, yeah, like oh that's I really hope when you and you take back the like. They don't they don't get a notification like the notification doesn't show up or they haven't seen the notification up yet.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:55

Have you ever tried it out though? No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

But I know I have liked someone's really old picture, then I took the like back, but I'm never known to see whether the notification pops up or not.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:04

Damn. And and what if they notice and then like they're like, yeah, maybe, maybe, it's an ego booster, I gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:12

I guess, yeah, it is. Because sometimes what are you doing all the way back there? What channel do you want to try to find?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:16

What channel trying to find? Okay, last one. Open Instagram to check only one person. Is that easy or not easy?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

It is easy. Yeah, yeah, like I'm meant to be on my reels, or or what? I'm searching up someone. Is that what you're asking?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:39

Or is that like searching somebody or like checking for this one person?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:43

Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is teasy.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:48

Pretty much. Yeah. Nah, every time I hear Laura say Mchumango, I just have a whole list of people in your head.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:54

No, I just because you just be talking shit sometimes, Sean. I never know what's coming out of your mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

Like, bro, I'm gonna flip this tables on your face right now, bro. Don't piss me off right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:05

Nah, just just fun time. Hey gang, don't go anywhere just yet. We still got more of the no-trolling podcasts coming out.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:21

South, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:22

I've saved the audio system is phenomenal. It's really nice. When I went to Kenya, I got a hack. Okay. It was actually dope to meet other podcasters. What? It felt so like meeting people who actually do this for a living are same as me. Like who are in it deeply 100%.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:38

It's nice. It was you need to meet your people for real.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:41

Oh my god. I'm gonna be going to Kenya more often now. You know, you know, y'all are putting me on the map, so I gotta go represent out there.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:49

I gotta go represent.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:51

I gotta get represent. Yeah, man. Nice. We love it. But uh, but but um I'm really loving how everything is going so far with my career. I'm loving the the system I'm building to make my life easier and to simplify. The trick to this thing, guys, at least to me, so far, with my two-year, almost three years experience, is try your best to simplify the job. You know how much I overthink in the quality of this thing? And the little bits of these small details y'all don't even give a shit about.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

I wouldn't say that. You do it, they don't know what you're doing. Yeah. They probably do care, but they don't know what they care about.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:34

Yeah, they don't, they don't know what they're getting until they don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:37

They're like, why is it looking like this? Why does it sound like this? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:41

So basically, I was so I was always overthinking about the little bit of cuts on how camera shifts.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:47

But usually people do, they just care about the as long as the audio is good, man, the video is 4K. Come on. Yeah, okay. Come on.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:55

And that's what Sean is providing right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:57

Crazy setup on bugging slides.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:19

That was a little bit of uh a little bit of you know character but he had to say people who are making me people who are making this happen for me are called Pentagon Rentals, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:32

People who are making this podcast survive technically people who are making this show sprinkle. Yeah, there's a little bit over the top. Yeah, man. Shout out to them. If you're a creator like myself, uh, and if you want to tune into equipment, like content stuff, don't not necessarily podcasting, or even interviews. If you want to do interviews with some of the big shots you got in your contacts, pull up in the studio and rent some equipment. Yeah, and by the chance you get to see me, don't feel shy to say hi, Sean. Yeah, because apparently people who come to the studio sometimes they'll be like, I saw it came to the studio, I saw you working. I do want to say hi. I'm like, I'm I'm human.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

Don't worry, you gotta you can't say hi to me, baby girl. Nah, I don't mind. You come up to me anytime. That's what that's what Sean is trying to say.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:18

Shut up, dude. But yeah, uh, if you made this far, I appreciate you. And hopefully you have subscribed, support our channel.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:26

Yes, dear money. Keep on growing, not trolling, because it's growing. And if you've been watching some people that have been watching, like honestly, me myself, I think I subscribed December to the channel.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:40

December last year?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

Like last year, December. It's not good. Because I was like, you know, I would watch it on a YouTube account that I had like as a guest, so I can't subscribe because I I've not got into my account. But once I got into my account on TV, I was like, actually, I'm not subscribed, let me subscribe. So if you're watching this and you never subscribe, please, eh? You know, and it's the man.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:56

I don't take it personally. Yeah, of course, yeah, of course, yeah. If some of my friends don't watch my content, they don't subscribe to my shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:04

It's okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:05

They don't repost. It's fine. It's fine.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:08

Don't come to me when I blow up, though. When I'm all but there's that too.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

That's what that's that.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:13

That's what's that's what's coming.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:15

No, no, I'm not the type to take my work and mix it with my friends. No.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:19

Like I I know there's a there's a huge line between my work and my friends. At least the people who uh I tend to love, not care about. Okay. Yeah. We get that. But yeah, we're back on the second half of the show. So now we're gonna be doing no trolling questions. You know, the rules, no trolling, don't sweat it before you respond to a question.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:40

Apparently, for the last two years, yeah? Uh we've had only less than five guests who have managed to remember no trolling. Don't sweat it. Every question.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

Yeah, because maybe they're not um watchers.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

Maybe they're not watchers, maybe they start watching no trolling after they're on the people.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:02

Now I'm playing, I'm playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:04

So I'm gonna say it for him. I'm gonna say it for him. Because sometimes you see Sean telling the guests, you know, not trolling, and you see them there. Don't sweat it, dude. Come on, you know the answer. It's okay, it's okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:16

I love everybody who comes to the show. I appreciate whatever she's saying. Don't worry, me, I'll speak for you. Yeah, it's not it's not in my I did not play part in what she said. I'm not part of that. First question. Do you think some women don't like or don't be attracted to a guy until they see another woman being into them? No trolling.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

Don't sweat it, yeah. There are some women that you would like a man would be pursuing them in the messages. Yeah. They'd be like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Until you see, until they get to see how the man treats another woman once the man has gotten the woman. So sometimes maybe I I because I've never been in the position where I'm like, oh, now I want the guy, though I didn't want him in the beginning. That's another conversation. That's another conversation for another day. I know. So some women she has a loose trick program.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:14

Lose strict program. Yeah. So come and you can't. So vulnerable. I'm easy.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:22

I'm easy if I like you.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:25

Let's go. A tip of the no like a tip of the phone.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

I don't like wasting time. I don't like playing games. So say if I like you, can you put this on the if I don't like you? Anyway, um, so some women bring this up. You better not bring this shit up.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:40

Bro, my weapon is watching this. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

Anywho, so ndio puna na kiwengine. Wakim wanna mwa no member nam taka uyo. Anam takaye. Save you puna mana m kim wingine. Andam wona that guy treating that girl better.

unknown 1:10:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:53

Or treating that girl amazingly. Atamtaka. Or atakama, sometimes it's not even about how the guy's treating the girl. Sometimes it's about what girl the guy got with.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

Because some guys could get with a really bad girl. Like she's bad. And the girl that he was trying to get with before, and you lisa, amimpataji na kwanini, who yumdadambo mimi nam weshimu, amim chukum dia man bali kwentung. She come on. Yeah, and I don't get that.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:19

I wonder if that's gonna be my case as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:22

That could be your case. Yeah, that could be your case. Some people might I think ten away. Mimi kwambi. Sean is a great guy. Sean, like I think, yeah, if yeah, Sean is an is a person you'd love to date. But if he's trying to pursue you afoo, you don't want him sour. But I'm pretty sure if you see him with another woman and you see how he treats her and makes her feel loved, you'd want that Sean that was coming to come to you the other time. Um being so for real.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:51

I'm yet to I'm yet to find out. This year's my year of seeing. Listen, I'm I'm doing better, actually. I'm doing better. Really? I'm doing better. You were not over her. For the longest.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Yeah, but it was your first fight. Okay, yeah, of course. No, no, it's okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:12

Yeah, so like, yeah, sometimes and the thing, no, no, no, not that's not the big reason, actually. The big reason is because I didn't get to see what it could have been. We didn't have enough time. That's what pisses me off. You know what give me?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

Yeah, what could it have been? Well, we could have been. If I want it, if I none bending bunny, can't the summer bunny panel son? Sorry. Look me in my eyes.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:39

Now we gotta face the line. Come on. All right. When you smash on the first night, is she easy or do you just have it like that? No trolling.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:52

Don't sort it both.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:55

Niggas are easy, though. At the end of the day, niggas are so easy. Like, apparently that's the truth. For women, I think it's very easy for you to just sleep with any man. Like, I think so.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:06

Maybe for me, because like fun fact women are gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of commitment.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree, I agree. So we all have. But there are some women who are gatekeepers of commitment as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:20

I know it's always an anomaly. Yeah, yeah. But it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

At the end of the day, most, yeah, mostly it's that, it's that way. Yeah. But um, yeah, sometimes you at the end of the day, every man that I've managed to smash for a snipe was easy from the get-go. But I'm bad, so I wouldn't even even me. If I wanted to smash me, I'd be like, yo, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

Yeah, I'm pretty sure even you have some niggas on the like on a like a no, I don't know about that. No, no, no. I don't know about that. No. What kind of friend am I trying to put my friend out there like that? I don't know about that. Next question, please. What does liking your story mean? No trolling.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:05

Don't sort of nothing. To me at least. It means it means nothing. Like, okay, you liked Labba, you liked what I shared. But I wouldn't take it anything more deeper than that. Like somebody you have not if we have not spoken for like if we had a thing and we've not spoken for ages and you like my story, I'd be like, okay, now maybe it's trying to get back in my life. That's the only assumption I'll make. But I wouldn't go anywhere further than that. But then it's just like a new person, or if it's just an attractive guy, or it's uh you've liked my okay, you've liked my story. Okay, even me, I like my story.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:36

Never that deep. Yeah, I don't think it's get uh yeah, get your mind out of the gutter, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:40

Like oh, he liked my story. I mean, yeah, he did like it, but it's not that deep. I don't think it means like anything more.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:45

Do you check your story views? No, like people who viewed your story? No, I used to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:53

Um, unless I once I want to check if someone has watched it. Sometimes I'm checking like if has my boyfriend watched my story.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:00

Now that I think of it, yeah, that's usually the case. Yeah, like I'm checking if someone's watching.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like that evil.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:08

Like if you check it out. Okay, okay, okay. I think that's what I've done. Uh just who's you've gone through your story viewers. Who's this? Let me view. Oh, damn. That's a sad life. That's honestly a sad damn life.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:21

Sometimes sometimes you put something up on your story for one specific person, so you could go through it, yeah. Or some buy.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:27

Okay. Scenario. There's a red button in front of you right now. Every time you press it, you get one million dollars. But someone out there in the world dies by pressing it. Hold on. How many times are you pressing it? No trolling.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:50

10.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:52

Oh no, I hope my friends are not in the mix.

unknown 1:15:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:57

Hope my friends and family are not in the mix. But that 10 is coming at me, and I'm gonna eat it with my friends and family who are remaining.

unknown 1:16:03

Ten people dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

Bro, there are 8 billion people. You know how many people die from smoking cigarettes every single day?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:10

You're you are you're conscious about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:13

You don't have to think about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:14

And you're pressing that, but I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

My moral compass is not sometimes I forget who's in front of me. Yeah, like you he like give me that melee. Extra melee. Who's that? Who's next? Millie! Sorry, uh guys, I need the money. You know, people are like, oh, billionaires. Bro, if I was a billionaire, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:47

Oh it is what it is, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

I don't think I'd press it, honestly. Nice guy, you know, bro. You're amazing, man. You're better than me. That's what it is. Like, you're actually just you're just better than me. But me, I'm pressing that button.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:01

Let's be for real.

unknown 1:17:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

Okay. Is abstaining from sex healthy? No trolling. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:14

If you're constantly having safe sex with one person, I think that's healthy. Now, if you're abstaining from sex completely, I wouldn't term it as healthy. I would term it as okay. Because you're not getting healthier from not having sex. Unless you are having sex with multiple people, you whore. So I'm sorry. Like indo, kwasama wuna abstain, uta kwa una unami fupa m ya m kuvo, sinu uta kwa una the ideas and kari pati. Just taking the person. Just taking the person. Na wanasini kuma. You're not staying healthy, bana. And why is no even unless you were fucking with multiple people before, like in this, you're not fucking with people at all. Like in Kama previously, you were just fucking with one person, having safe sex and having a great time, you're coming and everything like that. And now you're not having that anymore. Sucks. Yanni, that sucks. I'm sorry. Because I know it comes a time you feel it. Everyone feels it. Oh, they're abstaining, but then girls, women go through ovulation, and men are horny 24-7. So now here a man is abstaining. I know he's just a feral animal waiting to be let out. Sean 81 Jacks.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:34

We move on.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:42

Next question. What is a dating standard? You'll never break it out.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:55

A dating standard I won't break. A dating standard, we're dating.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:18

Okay, let's go deeper. Relationship.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:21

Relationship. A standard that will not break for relationship. I don't know man. I can I can turn to a chameleon for my man. If he wants me to change.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:39

No, no, no, no. He's even willing to have kids. For a man. Did you not say that?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:51

I mean that was the circumstance that I I was picturing the man as my husband.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:58

No, like you.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:59

Like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:01

If a kid if a nigga says, I gotta have a baby, I don't know how that like A baby right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:05

Now that's a standard I can't break. We can't have kids before marriage.

unknown 1:20:09

What?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:10

When you don't want it.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:11

Yeah, when I don't want it. But if I want a kid right now, we can have the kid. But no, I think sometimes I just don't want a man to get his way with everything. I mean, also I also would want a kid, but then damn I'm someone's baby mama.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:25

But you you even if you decide to have that child, well, when you decide it's still gonna be a baby mama.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:32

Yeah, but then like it's gonna be different if I decided then what in the head, guys. I guess, I guess, like in sometimes it it is in the head because what's in your head really controls how you feel and how you move about stuff. So if in your head it's like it's you only had the kid because the man wanted the kid, it could go about a way you won't like. Like any if me, I want the kid because I want the kid, I don't think there's anything this man could do or say that would faze me as I have the kid, you know? So I don't know if I'm making sense. You'll let me know in the comments. Yeah. But yeah, but uh dating standard, and you're gonna get a relationship standard I can't break is you can't cheat on me. Because I will kill you. Like So would you not forgive cheating?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:23

No, I wouldn't. How many times would you not forgive? Because I know at least once.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:27

I wouldn't, I wouldn't forgive once. I wouldn't for after after the first time. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. After the first time, if you look for the second time, that's I mean many of them don't match a kachana marakwanza. Depending on the deep how deep it was. That but it was just like we're not communicating well, you know, to tacha. I've never been the circumstance where they cheated on me. Like I'm a lala naam to mwinkini. Yeah, because I'm not gonna be able to say it's gonna be a back and forth. Second time is uh it's a back and forth, like we can't do this. Yeah, but my man can handle it, so I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:25

I wonder how important is compromise in a relationship.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:32

It is very important. I'll be honest, because you something along the way that I learned over my number of relationships that I've had is that if you really love the person that you're with, you would want to make a compromise. Because you'd want them to be comfortable. We're talking about that Rick and Morty um episode. They say, you know, sometimes you try to change for a person because there's no longer change to be there. But then if you really love the person, you'll just keep on. There are things you just have to do to make them comfortable, to make them feel seen, to make them feel reassured. Come on, as well, come back. You just make silly silly jokes on the internet. I thought I'm actually this really hurts me sometimes. I see I see this and it makes me overthink. You will stop. You'll have to stop because you wouldn't want your partner overthinking when you love them. You wouldn't want them to like feel horrible when they're with you. So when some people are in relationships, I thought they say, I can't change. Yeah, I think it's a good thing. Koka mounta na kwambia ni sozi kubadilika, me mindo ni rivo, buti, na mucha live phone and lana m to winkine, you know. So I think it's very important because it's a measure of love.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:51

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:54

The long distance thing perhaps that you had. Sometimes you're gonna have to use money from your pocket to go see her, you know? Because how are you gonna keep the relationship alive?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:08

Actually, ready.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:09

Yeah. Yeah, Jamani can't make sure the podcast and a chokeh, and I'm gonna have to classic one on a combat. Bro, it was so serious about me, but I I fumbled. Because it's really you were talking to your ex.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:22

I'm not talking to her. I'm not talking to her.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:24

Bro, if you're talking to Sean right now, just know he's talking to his ex, bro. He's talking to his ex. His one girlfriend that he had, his one ex, he's talking to her and he's entertaining her. They're joking. They're joking about how he would have cut flights to go see her and fuck her. No. So if you're talking to Sean right now, you're wasting your time. Because he's still in love with his ex.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:40

I didn't even say when was we joking about this. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:45

He was still still in contact with his ex.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:48

No, that was months.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:50

Months. Months. I'm telling you, you see, it could be months, but if she comes back to his life right now. No, actually, no.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:58

Yeah, okay, sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:59

Because the thing is You said you're over her.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:01

No, no, yes. The thing is, the things that that made us separate are still there. They're not going anywhere. So we're not getting back together.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:10

Yeah, man, you're stuck, we come crush on shon. So, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:27

So, before I let you go, Laura, I want you to like at least explain to me or something you've been doing that or practicing that has helped you navigate your life.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:39

I'm gonna be very honest, guys. There's one thing I've always been doing ever since I've been a child. And I've always known that it's helped me become who I am today. It's helped me just live the life that I've always lived. And that's not giving a fuck. From a very early age, and I'm not even joking. I wish I was joking. Like, this is so serious. I've never cared. I've never cared what anyone thinks of me. I've never cared what anyone's opinion of me was. I've never cared because you are not me. You've not lived my life, you'll never be me. So you don't pay my fees, you don't give me money, you don't pay my rent, you don't kiss my ass, you don't eat my butt. Shut the fuck up. So whatever anyone has to say about me, it's always been at the back of my head unless I knew it was of essence. Call any not to be disrespectful or anything like that, but I've just always known that other people's opinions of me could never matter because I regard myself way too high to care what anyone else thinks of me. And that's really helped me become who I am, how I speak, how I address things, how I talk. I don't give a fuck. And I think I'm so blessed because of that. I think it's such a blessing. You only care when you need to. You don't have to care so you oh, born and you any side, would you recommend that for everybody else? I do. I actually do. Because if you know how to care to an extent, it's enough. You don't have to have a hundred percent care anywhere with two kila sa any, not caring, not people pleasing. You live your life because ni my shakwe. You know that, right? Like it's your it's literally your life. Why does Mahava say? Why does Frank have who the fuck is Frank, bro? Like what? So I know that for a fact, you know. Just caring about myself and wanting to be better for myself, not wondering what other people are doing, not being pressured with what other people are doing, not wondering how people are gonna look at me. It's helped me become who I am and it's helped me be where I am today. Now you know, now you know. Haven't you noticed though for yourself as well, the less, the less you cared, the easier things got, the easier decisions they were to make. And it was easy to move about without being like in the back of your mind, but what is this and this gonna think? What is this and this gonna think? Who the fuck are they?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:24

Yeah, I feel like it was way easier to navigate life when I cared less about the public opinions of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

Yeah. My mom was telling me my kindergarten interview.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:39

I don't remember, but she she she tells the story every single time. She was like, Laura, in the moment she was done with her exam, my writing exam for my kindergarten, like the headmistress was talking to me too much. Like she was like, Oh, come on, I forgani, come ban. I wanna go home. Like, I don't wanna be here. I don't like this. Yeah.

unknown 1:29:00

Damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:01

Very young. Like, I was five, four. I was like, fuck this, I wanna go home. And I think this that's just who I've always been.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:09

Damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:11

That's uh that's the best way to end this thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:14

Anyway, make sure you like, follow, subscribe, and hit us up on No Chilling Podcast. This is Sean and Laura, it's been amazing. And if you've been here the entire time, we thank you so much. What else did I say? Oh, shout out Pentagon if you want equipment.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:28

What else did I say? What else? Episode 81.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:31

Episode 81, we Sean 81, Jacks, episode 81. Amazing times.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:38

Until next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:39

Until next time, gang. What else?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:42

Peace out.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:42

Peace out.

unknown 1:29:48

I'm sick.