Timford:Why i left America for Africa and never looked back(i Escaped hell!)||EP 84

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In the studio today we’ve got Timford, for a real conversation about fatherhood, marriage, identity, and leaving America to start a new life in Africa.

Timford opens up above the realities of being a father, what marriage teaches you that nobody warns you about, and how Africa changed the way he sees life, freedom, and responsibility.

He also gets real about America and why, for him, it started to feel like hell and he escaped it 

We also talk about leaving him America, building a new life, getting into real estate, and the truths people don’t see when they dream about moving abroad.

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Filmed by: Rocky the mutator & jordan
Edited by : sean81jax

Chapters;
00:00 Trailer
02:21 Stupid question
05:18 Intro
06:11 Who is Timford
08:27 Why i left America for Africa and never looked back
14:00 Timford's advice to other americans coming to africa
14:55 Africa is NOT MENTIONED in America
16:09 Marriage & Family
19:31 Timford's project
20:18 Spirituality
21:41 Fatherhood & therapy
26:10 Timford's childhood
27:56 Getting Married at a Young age
32:00 Becoming a Better Husband
34:38 Real Estate in Tanzania 
37:55 My Tzee side (NT game)
43:47 After the break  
45:32 The American dream is a Nightmare
46:40 Worked with people tried to tear me down
52:52 The No trolling Questions
01:11:36 Parenthood Advice & Abortion
01:14:44 Outro & Shout outs

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

It's crazy how Americans view Africa or even Tanzanian. They feel like it's one big ground and everybody's living in huts and shit.

SPEAKER_03 0:07

And that's the thing though. It's not even on our radar, bro. Africa's not mentioned. The only time they hear about Africa is when Trump putting a sanction on them. Will you ever go back to America? No. I escaped hell, bro. I escaped. I almost went to jail before I came. The first murder I experienced was one of my cousins. He was murdered by the police. They shot him in the back. I was probably six, six or seven, bro. America is the biggest brand in the world. So it's a brand. That's all it is. So everybody thinks that they can go there and their life will be changed.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

American dream. American dream.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Whole nightmare, bro. Whole nightmare. But you don't know how to express yourself because you don't even know what you're dealing with. We really don't mature yet until we go through a lot of stuff. So you gotta go through some stuff in order to be a good husband, father, and leader, bro. I used to think, bro, that all you have to do is give a woman good sex and you're straight. What? Bro, it's a lot more than just good sex. Most women don't even like that. And we don't even know. We don't even know, bro. They don't like all that rough stuff, bro. They wanna be held and gently touched. Nah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

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SPEAKER_01 1:24

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SPEAKER_03 2:21

Since we since we last talked, I've been waiting for you to hit me up and say, let's go. Come on. You know I'll be I I was gonna hit you up. Yeah, I knew, yeah, I knew. But I was just like, you know, I knew you had stuff to do.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

My time was gonna come, bro. I was patient. Sure, man. I uh it's finally we're starting, man. Today's episode took so long to set up, bro. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Poorly.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

But I appreciate you being patient with me, brother.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

You're welcome, brother. I appreciate the opportunity, man. I'm really chill. I'm just ready to talk to you.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

How you feeling today, brother?

SPEAKER_03 2:49

I'm great. I can't complain, man. How about you, man? I'm chilling, bro.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Good. Family good though?

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Family's good, bro.

unknown 2:56

Family's good.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Tell your wife I say hi. Damn. I just hope she's not on my case for making you late, bro. Nah, she's okay. She understands. We gotta work sometime.

unknown 3:06

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

It's a part of it. For sure, bro. We gotta prioritize that shit always, dog. For real. Speaking of, I got a stupid question, dog.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

A stupid question.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

First? Yeah. My boy said stupid question off the bat. Let's go, man. Cause like how I came up to finding this question was I was just scrolling on the internet and I just got shocked by it. So basically, when uh it's about it's a relationship question. So basically, if your girl cheats on you with another girl. With another girl, would you be pissed off? What like if that happened, that if that could happen, would you be pissed off?

SPEAKER_03 3:50

That's the first question. Yes. Honestly. Honestly. That's not gonna happen. That's not possible. Like what?

SPEAKER_05 4:01

If if if if okay, prior before your wife. Before my wife. Yes. That's not happening.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

That's not possible. You can't go. If you nah, bro, you can't come. After me, you're not going to a woman. Like, that's not an option. Oh, shit. All right. Nah, nah. Nah. Nah. That's a that's disrespect. Like, you go, you what?

SPEAKER_01 4:22

No, maybe, maybe. I don't know. It just just sometimes it just happens when you when you're with somebody, maybe they were you're with them in that period where maybe they were figuring stuff out.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

And then it just happened that, oh, they saw a shorty and they're like, I don't want that.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Yeah, nah, bro. That's not, nah. But if it was to happen. If yes, you you gone. What's the point of nah? Yeah, you'll be you're pissed. I wouldn't be pissed. Well, yeah, of course you get cheated on by that'll piss you off. Yeah. Definitely, but nah, bro, that won't happen, man. That's a crazy question to start with, for real.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

I had to get it out of the way.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

You were scrolling, like, okay, that's a good hook.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

I see what you need. No, it's not even a hook, bro. It is, it's not, but it is. When this episode starts gonna start with the trailer. Yeah. Yeah. My podcast good, bro. What are you talking about? I don't need a hook. You do need to look at the part of it, nigga. That's the game. Guys, welcome back on another episode of the No Trolling Podcast. Trolling.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

This is episode 84, bro. Oh my god. And in the studio today, we got a father, no man, entrepreneur, real estate investor, first American on the No Trolling Podcast.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Honored. Honored, man.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Thank you for having me. Husband, of course. A father. Man, how long, how long do you see yourself waiting to have another child, bro?

SPEAKER_03 5:51

That's a good question. Honestly, I wanna. It's up to me, bro. I gotta do some more healing and make some more money.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Yeah, like I need to go a little bit deeper and overcome some stuff, and then I'll be ready to bring a third one.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Um, if so give us some context of what made the Tim Ford we see today. His name is Tim Ford, by the way. Yeah. Oh, context. How old how how far you want me to go back? Uh let's start from when you started understanding you yourself as the man.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Hmm. I would say it's ironic. I told you this is episode number 84. Yeah. And that was my number in high school when I played football, bro.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Oh, yeah? Yeah, that was like my number. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Destiny to happen, guys.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

And then my Twitter number at the time was 84 Ford Focus. Oh. Yeah, so I was deep at 84. Them cringe usernames, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:49

Everybody went through that era, bro. Exactly, bro.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

So I would say it was around that time, honestly, bro. Around that time when I was in high school. Yeah. Um, I would say it was my 10th grade year, bro. And I knew at that time I was auditioning for a talent show at my high school. Talent show. Talent show, bro. You wanted to act, bro?

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Yes. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

I wanted to do everything.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

Shit.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

So I auditioned for this talent show, and I became a um, what's the word? It was a model. I became a model, and then when I became a model, one of my brothers, there was like a mentor, somebody I used to talk to. Yeah, yeah. He was the host. So he was the host, and we was at auditions, not auditions, we was at practice every other day. And while we was at the practices, I was just jumping, like he wasn't there because he was busy. So I was doing what he would do, just up there joking and playing. And long story short, bro, he ended up getting suspended on the a few days before the show. I'm in the 10th grade, bro, and my teacher puts me to host the talent show in front of all of my peers, bro. I'm like in the 10th grade, and I got 12th graders and my adults, 11th graders, all of them above me, and I gotta host the show. Yeah, I did it, bro, and I killed it. Congrats. Something, bro. And so I've been here on this journey ever since. When I did that, I was like, I know I'm gonna have my own show one day. So from 10th grade, 11th grade, 12th grade, I was the host of the talent show. And when I graduated, I was always focused on making sure I created my own show one day. I knew this would be my destiny. So I just kept working towards it, bro. And it at some point it came, and now we're here, bro. So that's how it started.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Damn. Yeah. This guy's been living in Tanzania for almost five years now. Since 2020, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Yeah, 2020. It's almost six now, bro. Six, yeah. 2026. It's also basically six.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

People still say that. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Why why why yum?

SPEAKER_04 8:44

Harry Yamakampia. Hello, y'all come Harry. Yamwakampia. Harry, Yamwaka umpia.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Yum.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

Okay. Okay, let's let's let's go. Okay. Harry. Harry. Yamwaka. Yamamka.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yamwaka.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

Yamwaka.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Yamma. Yamwaka.

SPEAKER_03 9:05

Yamwaka Mpia. Yeah. That's anti. That's nothing mwalimo.

SPEAKER_04 9:13

It's pretty ironic because people trouble me for not knowing Swahili. And I'm out here teaching talking to the niggas.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Fuck is he talking about? Y'all be out here thinking I don't know Swahili, man. But yeah, this dude has been living in Tanzania for almost six years now. And I really want to know what pumped that journey, man, and what made you stick. Did you leave Tanzania after six, five years?

SPEAKER_03 9:39

I never left, bro.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

What made you stick by this country, bro? And you know how here, how the hustle is tough, people being hypocrites and shit. Yeah. Like how you dealing with it? What made you settle down down here, bro?

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Man, so when we came, it was the height of COVID pandemic.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

And the George Floyd situation happened at the same time. We all remember George Floyd. What happened? We got killed in front of everybody.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:03

So living in that environment, bro, it's something that happens every single day. Even now. In America. In America. There's more people who have been killed the same way, if not worse. So I knew that it could potentially be my life if I stayed in that environment. And I just had my son. When that happened, so I was like, nah, something has to change. So our lease was about to be up in our apartment. And my wife and I, we went house hunting. And we felt like anywhere we went in that environment, we would not be safe. We have to tuck our black in and not really be able to be ourselves because bro, they're crazy. It's a lot of crazy people over there. Sometimes it's white people, and sometimes it's our own people too, bro. Like it's some craziness going on. So we was like, ah, where can we go? So we didn't feel safe anywhere. So my wife and I, we prayed and asked, what should we do? And this woman had a dream, and she saw the mountain of Kilimanjaro in her dream and heard God tell her paved the way. So she told me about the dream, and we said, okay, let's make it happen. And after that, it took us probably three weeks, three, three weeks to a month, bro. We sold everything and what we couldn't sell. We gave it away, got on the flight, and came and haven't looked back yet, bro. And we we locked in. I've been able to do that because that is the mission and the dream that my wife got. So it's bigger than me. I'm paving the way for more people that want to get out of that environment, bro. So I'm living my life as an example to show them like if we come back to Africa, this is what we can do. We can end up coming over here and using our gifts over here. So that's why I keep going.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

Do you feel more free down here?

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Oh yeah. Oh man, bro. That's why I haven't been back. I'm homesick. I miss my family. I I love them a lot, bro. I used to be very entwined with my family. But now that I'm here, I escaped hell, bro. I escaped. I escaped. Literally, I almost went to jail before I came. What? Yeah, bro. Yeah. I did go to jail, actually. I I beat a charge. Like, because I was just, bro, I was ignorant, man. Um, you know, music has a huge influence on how we act, bro. We don't know that, but some of us do. So music is a big influence. Big influence, bro. So, long story short, bro, I was listening to some music, bro, and I was late to work, and somebody was in traffic and they was blowing their horn at me. So you got pissed. I pulled a gun out. Whoa. Yeah, bro. It's like that. I didn't shoot them, but I showed them, like, leave me alone. Like, I'm busy. Stop playing. But they called the police, followed me. The police came to my house, took me to jail. Bro, that was the dumbest decision I ever made in my life, bro. The dumbest. Damn. When I get home, I was so sick, but yeah, it was a dumb decision.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

What was going on in your head when that happened? Like, bro, which part? Getting arrested. Bro. Did you feel like you go you was gonna get shot and shit?

SPEAKER_03 12:56

No, I didn't think about it. Well, honestly, I didn't think I was gonna get shot, but I thought the police was gonna try to hurt me. Because when I was getting arrested, another one came on the other side of the car and tried to grab me. I'm like, no, bro, you don't gotta grab me. He's good. One is enough. I know I'm going to jail, man. We don't gotta do that. So, yeah, man. Damn, bro. Yeah, that was a very good thing.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

What's the first thing you did when you came to Tanzania, bro?

SPEAKER_03 13:20

The first thing I did when I came to Tanzania. Hmm. What's the first thing we do?

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Of course, get an apartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to get yourself sorted with work and money and everything.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Man, we try to. Dang, that's a good question. It's been so long, bro. Yeah, six years. It's been a long time. What do we do first? I don't even remember, Sean. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Nah, I don't wanna lie and flex, bro. I don't remember, bro. I hit the ground running.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

I don't want to lie, bro. But okay, how about um, because I know you you you usually help other Americans that come down here and you kind of influence them as well to how to navigate living in Africa and living in Tanzania in specific. But what do you usually like tell them when they do come down here?

SPEAKER_03 14:13

I usually tell them to man, take your time and don't get taken advantage of. And you know, learn the basics at least. At least learn how to count your money and negotiate. Yep. At least learn that. And if you're gonna try to negotiate with people, always start half. It's like you better go half.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

You don't want to be called them zungu down here, bro.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Hey man, you gotta Zungu prices, you're crazy. They're gonna kill you. So I've I've learned a trick, bro. I I always tell them Buku. Like if it whatever it is, I say shit gotta be Buku. They be like, Buku, how first, how you know Buku? And no, bro, it's actually F and Bele. But so yeah, I play that game with them.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Do you feel like Africa and being in Africa for this long has changed who you are personally? Like even how you parent your kid.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

100%.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

100%, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

It has definitely changed. And it's helped me to see some of the things I still need to change. Because we have been we have been trained over there in a way for us to be not good, bro.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

It's crazy how Americans view Africa or even Tanzania. They feel like it's one big ground and everybody is living in huts and shit. And when I show speed pulled up down here, and now they're like, oh, so this is how Africa looks like. Nigga, you have the internet, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

And that's the thing though. It's not even on our radar. It's like, really? It's not even bro. Africa is not mentioned. The only time they hear about Africa is when Trump putting a sanction on them. That's it's only negative. Literally, it's not it's out of sight, out of mind, bro. So we fighting up against a lot. Niggas ain't niggas ain't even studying Africa, bro. Now they are though, because of I show speed helped, and you know, the work that we've been doing have, you know, pioneered and paved the way, but bro, it's it's it's a it's a mind game that's being played, bro. It's a mind game.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

Do you feel like fatherhood has changed who you are?

SPEAKER_03 16:13

Yeah. Fatherhood reveals some things that you have to work on, bro. It's gonna show you you, bro. It's gonna show you you. Oh I think I was 20. 25? 25 or 6.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

I remember I remember you and your son. I saw a clip of you and your son.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

And now when I went to your page and I saw it, I was like, I've seen this clip. You know, he was he he you know, the meme was like, when your son figures out there's more to just milk, you know what I mean? Yeah, he had a viral video with his son. Basically, the context, just to give you guys context, right? He was holding him, and then the he you were eating was that ice cream? It was a popsicle. Popstacle, yeah. Back in America, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he basically gave him his son like a little taste. Yeah, and then after, like, he pulled back the popsicle, and the son was like processing, like, okay, hold on. Well, what there's some good shit right here, and then he started like gobbling up, bro. Man, and you're like, hold on, homie, hold on, yeah. Damn. When that went viral, what what was going on? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_03 17:26

I was working to create a show, bro. I was working to figure out what type of content I need to create. And my wife, my wife, bro, she's been a very important piece. Like this interview.

SPEAKER_04 17:38

Like, she she's oh, her wife is the one who set this all up, actually. Shout out to you, man. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:45

Shout out to you, baby. We appreciate it. But um, yeah, she she um one, I was trying to figure out what type of content. I told you I was always focused on creating a show.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

So every year, bro, I would meet somebody new, a new cameraman, and we would create something to try and build something. Yeah, you know, I take a year off and focus on other things or unintentionally, but I always gravitated back towards it. But so at this time, I was meeting a brother, and we was trying to figure out what we're gonna do, which way we're gonna take it. And she told me, uh, and I was doing motivational content. Oh, yeah. I was doing shorts, like trying to inspire people.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

And she told me, um, she told me that he had tried the popsicle a day prior. So she told me you should do a video of him trying to eat the popsicle.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Oh, so that wasn't okay. So it was organic, but also not organic at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

She put me on. She put me on a little bit. So I gotta give her credit. I ain't gonna sit here and say, like, I just thought about it. Nah. Yeah. She showed me love and pointed me in a direction. So when that happened, I started doing content about fatherhood, and it sort of grew from there.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Yeah, because like I I remember when I was doing a little bit big, I saw the T3 project, right? Yeah. T3 and me. Yeah, that's the YouTube channel. And that basically came from that viral clip.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

So I'm like, okay, let me let me focus on my family and my son since that's what people want to see. Yeah. Because I was talking about motivational stuff, but it was just like, nigga, who are you? They didn't care. Yeah. So I learned that I needed to build something first, and then what I talked about would matter. So I just started letting them in my life, showing me, showing them me learn fatherhood and husbandhood and entrepreneurship. And then it trans changed to Africa, and now we're here.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Let's talk about your project. Like, what what drives the the project to keep on going and what keeps you going to like keep pushing it?

SPEAKER_03 19:36

Yeah, that's a good question, bro. I feel called, bro. Like, this is what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, like this is what God put me here to do, bro. Because I've always knew I would have my own show. I just knew it. And now I got I got one. So I gotta do whatever I gotta do to keep it going and keep it pushing. So no, this is my calling, bro. This is what God put me here to do. Because it's no coincidence that we have this easy access to create our own shows. We didn't have this when I graduated, but I saw that one day we would be here and we would be able to do something like this. So I'm just walking in my calling, man.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

I could definitely tell you're a very spiritual guy, man, in tune with your spirituality. How did that happen? Like, did you were you always like that since you were a child?

SPEAKER_03 20:27

I would say it happened when I was a child. Um when I was in, I remember vividly, I was in the fourth grade. I was walking across a field to my grandmother's house.

unknown 20:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

And I felt like I was by myself, and I felt like something be thrown on me, bro. And I almost buckled. And I looked around like, I'm like, what was that? And then I just went on about my life. And I remember a little bit after that, I started bargaining with God. I'm like, hey, if I get on the roll next month on our next report card, I get baptized. So I bargained with God and did that. So I got baptized, bro. So looking back at my life, I know that was probably the Holy Spirit coming onto me, bro. Like that was me being chosen to do something, and I had to follow it from there. So there's been times where I can admit I haven't been as focused as I supposed to have been as someone who's following God, who's being used by him. Like I do make mistakes on this journey, even now sometimes. But I still know that okay, there's a deep, deep calling, something that I supposed to do. And over my life, people have always reinforced it. I've been different my whole life, bro. So what I'm doing is in line with my life, bro. How it played out.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

What do you think fatherhood taught you that nobody warned you about? What did fatherhood teach me that nobody warned me about? Your parents didn't tell you about it. Now you can relate to your dad or mom, yeah, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

The stress of always not feeling like you're doing enough. Like, because you see, you know what you want to do, what you can do, but it's like certain barriers in the way that's holding you from getting there. Some of them are external, but a lot of them are internal too, bro. Like you, you know, we we hold ourselves back more than the outside things do.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Would you say you you was too hard on yourself compared to how you are right now?

SPEAKER_03 22:30

What you mean compared? I'm still hard. Oh, it's a father? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm not. I'm still hard on my bro. Every day I reflect on my relationship and my what I've done with my children and my family, bro. And a lot of days I'm like, ah, I could have did better. Like there are some days now, bro, where I will like be stressful and my son will ask me or say something, and I will react as I'm taking him to school, because I'm thinking about other stuff too. Yeah. And I'll react in a way where it's like kind of harsh. And all day while I'm at work, I'm like, ah, I did my boy like that, man.

unknown 23:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

As soon as I pick him up, I'm like, look, son, earlier, you know, my bad, man. I I was I was a little preoccupied. I apologize for yelling at you, man. So yeah, that's that's one thing that I I'm big on focusing on because I remember how I used to feel as a child going through that type of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So it helps me to see that.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

I mean, I don't know about fatherhood, because like I feel like I'd I'd be excited to like to go through that journey and like raise a child. But I don't know how what type of father would be. I don't I actually don't know. Yeah, yeah. But I know I'll give it all I could I can.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

And that's all you gotta do, bro. This this is this is tough. And fatherhood is gonna reveal some traumas that you have, bro. So it's gonna force you to work on yourself or you're gonna pass it down. You're gonna pass it down. And you're gonna it's some things gonna come up that you didn't even know was there.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

There.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

Shit.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

So I really hope I don't have a past trauma.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Well, what I would recommend is get help now before you get to it.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

But you don't know if you need it. So just go and talk to the therapist. Because like I just had the last episode a couple episodes back before this, I think like one episode before this one, I I had a conversation with a therapist, right? We were talking about past trauma, narcissism, and everything, right? And I feel like and she told me sometimes you don't even know if you need therapy until you go.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

So sometimes you can just like go just knock on the door, pay uh therapist like two hours or just an hour, and just sit with them and just tell tell them that, hey, I'm just here. I don't know, I feel like I'm I'm okay, but I just want to make sure if I'm okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Yeah. And that's a tricky thing. That's a tricky one too, because you know, you could just go somewhere and they could just diagnose you, be like, ah, you got this. So I need you to come back and let me sign you up.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Oh, but you yeah, you gotta get a genuine therapist because they'll they want more bag from you.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Yeah, exactly. So I would recommend just there's always spiritual leaders that God use, bro. Like there's always somebody around that God got in your corner that can help you get to that next level. So I would recommend getting the help from a person that you see doing what you want to do that's around you. If you see a father, if you know someone that's spiritual and you see the principles that they carry, talk to them and see if they counsel you, prepare you for where you're about to go. Because they know how to prepare you for that. That's one thing that my wife and I did. We went to marriage counseling, and that helped us to sort of get prepared for what we was about to get into. So you can tell a preacher, someone that, you know, I'm I'm thinking about starting a family. What do I need to prepare for? I'm thinking about getting ready. What do I need to get prepare for? And they'll reveal some things through to you based off questions, based off what y'all are talking about sometimes.

unknown 26:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

What is something you're intentionally doing right now that is different like from how you were raised up?

SPEAKER_03 26:16

Something you're doing differently. Being a present father.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Yeah. I was my dad, he was he he didn't live with me. I didn't I never I think I lived with my dad for summers, bro. Like I never really lived in the same house with my father.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

So you you never really knew him?

SPEAKER_03 26:34

I knew him. I knew him. I got his name and everything, but him and my mom, they never lasted. I never saw them together, never saw them married. So I never witnessed that dynamic. So I'm married, I'm holding on to that, and I'm a present father, bro. So that's something completely different from what I was raised in. Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yeah, bro. That's hard. Like, how do you remember your father? Did do he like, did he like motivate you in any way?

SPEAKER_03 27:01

Yeah, he did. He's a reason why I'm an entrepreneur too, though. Like, it's it's crazy. I didn't live with him, but he still influenced me because I watched him build a lawn company from the trunk of his car, bro. So basically, he he he he went to prison, he got out of prison, he got a car, he bought it. You know what the lawnmower is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bought a lawnmower, put it in the trunk of his car, and a weed eater, and put it in the trunk of his car. And off of that, he went from not being able to get jobs in the city to the city calling him to cut grass for them. So he got a whole fleet of machines. Creativity right there. Yeah, bro. So he taught me entrepreneurship and helped me to figure out how to maneuver in the world. Even though he wasn't there as a present father in the house, when I was around him, he was getting his money. He was he was working and showing me that this is what you need to do to survive, man. So when I did pick that up from him, I can't say that.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

We talked about your fatherhood, we talked about how you were raised up. What got you interested in to settle down with one woman? Marriage and you and you got married at a very young age. That's a good question. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

How old how old were you when you got married? I think I was 24, bro. 24. One year after that, a kid. What got you to settle down? You look like you're out there, bro. Tattoos and everything, bro. Dreadlocks and shit.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Not to assume, but wait, wait. Hey, I don't want to assume nothing. But just put it out there, bro.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Yeah, no, I was. I was. I'll admit, I'll admit, I was out there, but I was out there and I knew it wasn't worth it, bro.

unknown 28:44

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Because I came from that. My father wasn't in the house, my mother was alone, and I saw the fruit and the result of what would come from that lifestyle, bro. I lived in it. So I knew at a young age, before I even, even though I was out there, you know, in my youthful lust, I still at the back of my mind knew, like, nah, I want to be a husband. I wasn't too out there. I was always like, nah, one day I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have me a family, bro. Like, nah, I'm not, I'm not living like this. Yeah, for sure. And when I when I ran into her, bro, she was completely different from what I had ever imagined or seen in my life. So I moved from one state, I mean one city to another state. I moved from one city to another city, and she was in that city, and we ended up working together. And bro, I was at an we were working together, and all the women in the place were throwing themselves. I wouldn't say all, I give some of them some slack, but it was a lot of them that was like, uh, pick me, pick me, pick me.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

Bro, she was in the back chilling.

SPEAKER_05 29:42

And I'm like, oh, what she doing?

SPEAKER_04 29:45

What she doing? Who she throwing the water? I'm like, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

And then I'm I started talking with her, and we started chilling, bro, and I was like, okay, yeah. I'm I you know, I I almost didn't do it because I was young, I was scared. But I was a I was listening to me and a guy. I had people around me that was like, nah, you this is the way to go. And I always knew it, so I knew it was time for me to do it, bro, because I didn't want to live that life and end up creating children out of wedlock or all those type of things, bro. I wanted to do it right in that sense.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Man, you did it right, dog. Congratulations on that, bro. Congratulations, dog.

SPEAKER_03 30:22

Sante, Sante, bro.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

That's crazy. Would you advise somebody to marry young?

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Hmm, that's a good question, Sean. I would, bro, but I would say, please, please, please, get some emotional get some emotional maturity. Like, you have to understand women, bro. You have to understand yourself. Like, it's cute, it's cool, but like you will, you could potentially cause a lot of damage because you not healed yet. And you just you just re-reliving your traumas with someone that you love, but you don't know how to express yourself because you don't even know what you're dealing with. So we don't, we we really don't mature yet until we go through a lot of stuff. So you got to go through some stuff in order to be a good husband, father, and leader, bro. So, man, if you don't have it figured out while you're young. Yeah, just just chill, bro. No, I wouldn't say just chill because you know, God will God will make you do it young too. I would just say get some good people around you that can hold you accountable.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Get you some real men around you that's gonna hold you to that and be checking in with you and for you to help you get that done. Because it might be difficult to do it alone, especially if you never had a an example of it. A lot of us come from single homes.

unknown 31:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

So if you never seen it, it's gonna be hard for you to replicate. I mean, not replicate, it's gonna be hard for you to create that because you never seen it. So you gotta make sure you have the right people and keep God in the middle as much as you can. Make sure y'all pray, make sure y'all keep God in the center so it can stay strong. Because if you don't, it'll slip, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

What's something you had to unlearn to make you like a like a better husband? Something I have to unlearn. Had to unlearn. Yeah. Had to unlearn that shit.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

Honestly, I used to think, bro, that all you have to do is give a woman good sex and you straight. What? That's it. Like I think as long as you give her good sex, you're good. You good. You're good, bro. Bro, it's a lot more than just good sex. You gotta be emotionally available, you gotta be mentally available, you gotta be affectionate, you gotta be soft, you gotta be so many different things that we aren't even taught about. We just think it's it's the money a little bit. Bro, it's the money. That's it, bro. Some women, most women don't even like that. And we don't even know. We don't even know, bro. They don't like all that rough stuff, bro. They want to be held and gently touched and loved on, bro. They don't like that rough stuff. Some of them do, some of them don't. And some of them do mainly because of the porn that we've been exposed to. And us as well. We want to do that because that's what we're exposed to. But you gotta learn, bro, it's women are so delicate, bro. Ah. And we don't even know. They like real flowers here, bro. And they like they like babies. They like big babies, bro. And we don't even think of it like that. So we see them as our equals sometimes, and we think that because they're big, but they really, they really soft, gentle souls, bro, that we we gotta take better care of, man. We gotta take better care of, bro.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

I always tell people, like I always be preaching this, but I feel like women complete men, bro. They do, bro. And the thing is, most people might call me stupid for saying that. Actually, people have called me stupid for saying that. But the thing is, like I just enjoy treating a woman nicely. Because like I feel like growing up with uh a lot of women around me, you know, I've learned to cherish these people because they're really very delicate beings. Yeah, bro. I feel like that was the beginning of me being a gentleman.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

He was raised in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

But a funny story is like I used to fight with women growing up. Like we called them the housemaids. Yeah, I used to like rumble on that motherfucker, bro. Like, yeah, but I was a child, yeah. And when I used to be in school, I used to fight with my uh cousin as well. Yeah, girl. Yeah, oh my god, bro. It was all the time. And now I'm I'm this guy who I would never put my hands on a woman, bro. Never. Yeah, it's just like yo, being a kid, bro, it's actually crazy. So, what business are you into right now?

SPEAKER_03 34:39

So, right now I'm into real estate. Yeah, yeah, that's the main thing that I'm doing. And I I want to say content creation is the business because, bro, it's it we got a lot of thinking to do to post on different platforms. So, yeah, the real estate, the content creation, and my wife and I, we're doing herbal products. So my wife is an herbal product maker, so I'm helping her push those as well. She makes them and I talk about it and let the world know about what she's making for us. How did you get into real estate? So, uh, that's a good question. I just always took a liking to it, bro, and I knew. You know, have you seen, you know, do you know Max Maxwell? Max Maxwell, no. He's a um, right now he's in Zanzibar.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

He's oh yeah. I I think some of my is it was it you? Ah, Jordan. Jordan was the one who told me about Max Maxwell.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

Yeah, Max Maxwell. So I was watching him, bro. He was showing in 2020, he was like, uh, he was just showing his journey of like building a real estate company without any money. He was showing how you can just basically be the middleman. He was called it was called wholesale real estate. So he basically was teaching us how to do it, and me watching him do it as a black man, yeah, it helped me to get focused and see like, okay, I can do it myself. So I ended up reaching out to him when he came over here, too, bro, and we ended up talking. One day we're gonna sit down and have a conversation. But yeah, I started because of seeing other people do it, and I knew it was a big opportunity in it, bro. I started in America. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

I feel like I also want to be um I low-key kind of uh I'm trying to get into real estate as well, in the sense of land, buying land and owning land. Because you can own land down here, yeah, especially as a citizen. I don't know about if it's the same, not for foreigners.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

That's we could we consider foreigners right now. That can change at some point. Like we crack we're trying to come back home. I know y'all watching my boy No Trolling, man. Y'all watching Sean, so y'all help us out. You know, there's some big people watching in some big places. So I'm here advocating for that. So we're trying to change. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

But like owning land is uh one of the biggest resources down here. Like when you own land, you can flip it in like five years and you can make millions out of it. Yep. So low-key, I've been trying to like get myself into buying land, owning a piece of land here and there.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

So I feel like that's something I want to venture in more. And like I want to in this year, I want to put so much energy and effort into it.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

And also dive in into investment. The last episode before this one is a guy, he's a financial financial coach. He's also an investor in crypto and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Was it the guy on um on Instagram?

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Yeah, Victor Muta, yeah, with the afro.

SPEAKER_03 37:13

Yeah, I want to meet that guy, bro. I love how he do his thing.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Yeah, he's really smart, he's really good at what he does, and he's definitely making a lot of money out of that. And he does like hosting and stuff like that. So I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot you some of the details. He's hosting something this week and he invited me, but I couldn't make it. But hopefully, uh just remind me later. I'm gonna hook you guys up. All right, bet.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Appreciate it. So, yeah. And I was gonna say, if you need help with real estate, that's why I'm here, bro. You know, so you can you can focus on no trolling, you just let me know what you want to do, and I can go out there and handle that for you. That's why I'm here, man. Yeah, I got it. I appreciate that, bro. You are brother, you are.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

I appreciate that. But uh just to like finish it off with uh with this segment, I wanted to know would you ever go back to America?

SPEAKER_03 37:59

No. Never. Never, bro. I escaped hell, bro. Say less. I escaped hell.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

So, since he's he's he's on the Tanzanian test, let's play a game, bro. Uh-oh. I want to play a game with you where uh we we get to like rate you if you how Tanzanian are you? You've been living here for six years now. Let's see your Tanzanian or shining her. We wanna see, we wanna see. Nakubali. But I want to teach you a slang I like to use. Nakubali. Say that. Nakubali. Yeah, so that's basically we're good. We're good, we're good, we chill. Safi. Safi say Nakubali.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

But eat the badafu.

SPEAKER_04 38:43

You won't expect the note.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Oh my god, hell no, hold on, hold on. Okay, so this is how this is how we're basically gonna um give him statements and stuff like that and see how he handles it. As yeah, we we're trying to get to know his T Z side, basically. Okay, let's go. Ugali, yes or no? Ugali.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Yeah, deal. Deal. Yeah, what is he talking about? Deal.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

You ever had kisamfu?

SPEAKER_03 39:17

Kisamfu? No, I haven't. Is it a type of fish?

SPEAKER_01 39:19

No, it's like vegetables. Maybe what's kissamfu in English, dog? Do you know that? I forgot.

unknown 39:27

So it's like uh cassavales?

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Oh yeah, deal.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

Yeah, Tom Sana.

SPEAKER_01 39:33

Oh yeah? Uh uh. Young matoma in on the roadside or in restaurants?

SPEAKER_03 39:42

They say sometimes the young one is packer, bro. So I'm young biddily. So now bro. Right, it depends on which one though. Sometimes I'm gonna start. But if it's not the if it's on the little red, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

Do you have a dela dala chumma telling you story? Bruno.

SPEAKER_05 40:22

Bruno, make it a bush, I'll go in the bumble. You didn't care. What do we do? She got the channel to help I'm being a gentleman machine looking left. She's the one that's in America. We gotta come over here, bro.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Y'all can crazy get I want to get some meta glasses and ride the bus. Oh, yeah? Bro, that would be an experience, bro. They would love that in America, bro.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

They struggle. Cause like public transport is bad everywhere, bro.

SPEAKER_03 41:05

Bro, it's terrible here. They don't care. I had a I had my son in my arm, bro. They didn't care. They was like pushing us. I was like, chill. My wife was arguing. I'm like, baby. Relax. Yeah, they don't even care.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Okay. Um, say one Swahili sentence that proves you lived here for long.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

Uh one Swahili sentence that proves I just said about e badafu. Mimiam Chaga, bro. Mimi Mchaga from emoji. Hey, hey. Oh, that's good. That's good. What else can I say?

SPEAKER_01 41:39

What else can you say? That's good.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Yeah, that's it, bro. Yeah. My Swahili Kidogo. It might hit me later.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Yeah, say that, say let's say let's um what's your most mzungu moment in Tanzania? My most mzungu moment. Elaborate. Like the moment they made you feel like you're mzungu for real.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

Bro, I was at a um, I was I was at somewhere in Together, bro, and there was some masayas. Uh-huh. Some masai talking to my wife.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

They was arguing with her, saying I'm a white man, bro.

unknown 42:16

What?

SPEAKER_03 42:17

They're like, no, he's muzungu. No, no, no. And my wife, both was from America, so she's just darker than me. They literally looking at me saying, nah, he's not, he's not one of us. He's a he's muzungu, bro. Oh, damn. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Okay. Say less, say less. I feel like that's one muzungu moment. Okay, last one. What's one Tanzanian habit you picked up?

unknown 42:40

One Tanzanian habit.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

You feel like it's Tanzanian.

SPEAKER_06 42:43

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05 42:50

Do that. That, bro. That. No, y'all don't do the hair. It's the eyebrows.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

You remove the head. That's how you say what's up to people. That's one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, okay. America, we throw the hair back. So you do the eyebrow eyes and what else? They're not.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

I'm pretty sure the Dala Dala is also like trying to like hustle your way to a Daladala.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

In the Badidi Badafu, bro. That always mess people up, bro. That always. The Badidi Badafu. Who says that? Bro, some people in Wazo. I live, I live in the Wazo area.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Wazo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

To get there.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

To get oh. They be saying that Barody Barrow. Yeah, bro. I'm in the trenches. Hey gang, don't go anywhere just yet. We still got more of the No Trolling podcast coming out. What what is your uh weekly schedule look like for you?

SPEAKER_03 43:51

My weekly schedule, yeah. I I'm a little most times, well, I'll say every morning I take my children to school. Okay, I gotta take them to school. Children. Children, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:02

I gotta do you got more than one?

SPEAKER_03 44:04

Yeah. I got a son and a daughter.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

Whoa!

SPEAKER_03 44:09

Oh I'm a super father, bro.

SPEAKER_04 44:21

I need a dad with my dad.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Come on, come on. It's it's been running. Damn. Okay, you keep going.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

So yeah, I take them to school. Then I ride the I ride the um Changia right now. I'm gonna be honest. The Changia from Changia.

SPEAKER_04 44:47

Oh, the Changia Bajaji. Everybody tips in. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:54

Take that to Masaki. Then I go to the office and I do some real estate work. Then I do some content. Some days I edit the work. Some days I edit the content, or some days I just more so focus on the real estate for the day. Sometimes I have consultations where I talk to people about trying to come over here and I have consultations with people who are trying to get real estate. I have some a lot of a lot of Tanzanians now, they are looking to diversify. There's a lot of older men and women who have built things and their younger children don't want it. Unfortunately, people want to stay in America or stay in Europe and they don't want the assets that their parents have built.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that question, though. Like a lot of people in Tanzania want to live this country and go to America and start a life.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

And the old they have this delusion. I don't know if you're gonna call it delusion or if that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys. But I feel like it's a delusion to me to wanting to live a place where you know you can set a good foundation.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

You know what I'm saying? And go to start in a as a foreigner in another country to build a life. You know what I'm getting, you get me?

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Yeah. And it is it's mainly because of the media, bro.

unknown 46:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

America is the biggest brand in the world. So it's a brand. That's all it is. So everybody thinks that they can go there and their life will be changed. Change. American dream. American dream. A whole nightmare, bro. A whole nightmare.

unknown 46:16

Oh, damn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Huh. Let's just stick with Tanzania, guys. Let's let's hustle this country to like to make us successful. It's doable, bro.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

It's doable. You just gotta stop being so jealous of each other, envious, and work together, bro. It's doable. But people gotta put their pride aside and really get the work done, bro. Really do it.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Do you like working people?

SPEAKER_03 46:42

I love it, but there are some challenges. I love it, but there's a lot of challenges that come with it.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

It was something that we went through that made you hesitate to work with different people.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

Uh a few things, bro. On this journey of me helping people come here, I've had people like like you gotta say, change color. Change color, bro. They um, you know, they get to a certain level. I will help people get here and get set up. Uh-huh. And then when they get set up, they turn their back and disrespect me. Yeah. Try to tear down what I've built, try to ruin my platform because they think they can do it themselves. They think it's easy. He did it. He did it. Yeah, and I know I'm anointed. God called me to do this, and I know what I'm doing. So, yeah, some people have really tried to tear what we're building, so it really has made me hesitant. I went through a season of like, I really didn't want to mess with people no more. I didn't want to do content no more about Africa. I didn't even want to really do it because how people did me, bro. So it was, it's it's tough dealing with people.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

But I'm glad you went through that, bro. Because it hardships is what build us. No, for real. And the thing is, I work with people all the time, bro. And one thing I tell you just always have the guard up, bro. Don't let them know everything about you. Yeah, bro. And also don't let them don't don't don't make them think you're too nice. I always say, I'm a beast when it comes to my bag.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Yeah, bro. Gotta be.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Let's play, let's joke around, let's have some laughs, drinking a little around there. But when it comes to the business and my work and my craft, hey, yeah, we we're sitting down serious right now. We're locking in. I'm locking in. Yeah, because the thing is, a lot of people, uh, it's a Tanzanian thing to do, actually. Taking friendship into business. They think just because we're friends now, so the business is gonna like you're gonna cut me some slack.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

And I'm like, no. No, it's a business.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:45

It doesn't business doesn't think of friends. Not one bit. Exactly. And the thing is, a lot of Tanzanians have the habit of taking advantage of friendship. So don't be friends with people you want to work with like that.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah, that's what I learned, man.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

Yeah, it's just like you can have a friendship, but that's not boundaries. Yeah, okay. Boundaries saying don't have friendships is crazy, but having boundaries is way, way, way uh a better way of putting it.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Yeah, but it's hard it's so hard to get friends these days, bro. Man, and especially it's only getting harder for us. We're building in public, and more and more fake people gonna keep showing up and trying to get yeah, so it's it's hard, man.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Yeah, it's hard, man. And it's definitely been getting harder for me to actually even uh dive into relationships as well, because you you'd be surprised in how people might put out uh in front of you just for you they can attract you and then you end up locking yourself in and something different. But I don't think I have a like a bad eye to not notice those type of people.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

Yeah, you can feel it.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Yeah, I can definitely feel it. And um I don't want to use it as an excuse of not being in a relationship, but I feel like it's one of the challenges as well.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

I go through time time. You overanalyze people, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:01

I tend to do that because like just just like I meet people all the time telling me, yo, Sean, Sean, fake people, fake people. So you of course I gotta like lock in.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

Because now, not if everybody's telling you the same thing, you gotta think about it.

SPEAKER_04 50:18

Yeah, you might pay attention. Yeah, you gotta pay attention. Yeah, some wisdom coming.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Yeah, because you don't wanna be ignorant and just ignore shit that people are telling you. Yeah, you don't listen to the public opinion, yeah. But if it's something that is recurring every now and then, you gotta get in a get to the bottom of it. Just figure it out.

unknown 50:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Guys, by the way, we're back from the short break. I usually forget to announce that sometimes. But yeah, we're back, and this is the beauty of the podcast. You can just free ball that. Yeah, do your thing. Yeah, do your thing.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

It's yours, and it's yours. That's the beauty, that's the most beautiful part. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

And if you've made it this far, man, I appreciate you. Hopefully, you have subscribed, bro. Because your subscriber, uh, being a subscriber would push this platform to bigger length, bro. And with every subscriber, bro, I thank you. And if you subscribe, we're going to invite you to a subscriber party. I'm gonna host a subscriber party. Yeah, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

That's a good idea, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

And um if you uh follow us on our social media platforms, you can you can get to see the show from content that promote uh a single episode and shit like that. You can get to know a little bit about their guest in uh in a nutshell from the clips. Follow us on our social media platform on TikTok and Instagram, and we have an exclusive chat actually on Instagram where you get to see guests prior. So for those y'all uh who are in there, we got like five members right now, only five. But so keep it building. We we can have about like 200 seats, you know what I'm saying? So we in there you get exclusive information about the podcast, how we do things down here, behind the scene footage. You can talk to me directly, no corners, you know what I mean? You you get to um exclusive invites if we do events, like like uh meet, meet and greet, let's say, or stuff like that. Merch, you get uh early access to merch and stuff like that. So you're good down there, bro. Your community, man. And yeah, we're here at uh Pentagon Rentals, by the way. The people who make this podcast happen. If you're a podcaster or creative or uh like an interviewer, I can call it, right? This place has everything you need, dog, from cameras, mics, lighting, sets, and the studio is expanding. Some of y'all be tuning in and tapping in through this platform. Some of y'all just see some clips they make all the time. So yeah, just make sure you tap in if you're a creative, man. Yeah, back to the show. Um, so in this segment, the last segment of the show, we like to uh we have a catchphrase, no trolling, don't sweat it. No trolling, don't sweat it. Don't sweat it. So basically, whenever I ask you a question, before you respond to the question, you say don't sweat it, and then you respond. So let's say I'm at, oh, yo, Tim, uh, how many kids you got? Oh, no trolling. And then I say no trolling, right? And you say don't sweat it. I got like two kids, man, a son and a daughter.

SPEAKER_03 53:19

Don't sweat it. Yeah, then you respond. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Did you remember that?

SPEAKER_03 53:23

I think so. So hold on, hold on, hold on. If you say don't sweat, I gotta say no trolling.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

No, no, no. I say no trolling, you say don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

Okay. Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_01 53:30

No trolling.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Yeah, it's a it's a pickle for every guest.

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Yeah, oh, don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_01 53:37

Is it disrespectful to put to post thirst straps while you're in a relationship? No trolling.

SPEAKER_05 53:46

Is it that's no trolling, nigga?

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Can you repeat the question, please? Is it is it disrespectful to post thirst straps while you're in a relationship? No trolling.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

Don't sweat it. Yes, it's disrespectful. Yeah, yeah. What's a thirst strap? Like, with a bikini on bikini's is a thirst trap. What's a thirst trap?

SPEAKER_01 54:12

That's the thirst trap.

SPEAKER_03 54:13

Bikini, no? You said bikini's not a thirst strap. It is.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. Yeah. What's your version of a thirst strap?

SPEAKER_03 54:20

Bikini, like revealing revealing skin. Too much skin. No, if I see an ankle, bro. That's no, I'm j I'm joking. I'm joking.

unknown 54:29

I'm joking.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

Yeah, too much skin, bro. Too much skin. Yeah, too much skin, yeah. I mean, underwear. That's a thirst trap. Underwear. Yeah, underwear or maybe um a bikini or something.

unknown 54:42

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:44

What if they just wear it outside but don't post online?

SPEAKER_03 54:48

Yeah, that's a thirst trap.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Still a thirst trap.

unknown 54:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:51

She wants some attention. That's why they show their skin. They want some attention. Intentionally and unintentionally, alright. Sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Okay. Would you go about talking to a girl that comes up to you dressed like that? I'm married. So you wouldn't talk?

SPEAKER_03 55:12

No, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

No, no, not talk to her by like flirt.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

Yeah, just talk to her.

SPEAKER_03 55:17

Oh, in terms of like have a conversation with someone. Yeah, I still respect her and talk to her. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't like girls, go put some clothes on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no. We ain't gonna do that. I respect her and give a call.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

I mean, at the end of the day, guys, just do what you feels right to you. Yeah. Uh, cuz I like to say live your life, bro. Don't let anybody dictate how you live. If you want to post your thirst straps, go ahead, dog. Hey, it's your thing, right? Not in a relationship. Don't sweat it. I don't know. Uh, you know, people be in relationships and still posting that. People do. And it's it uh recommend it. Yeah, of course. I don't think I would recommend it. Yeah, would I be comfortable if my girl posted that? Okay, if I dated her knowing she does that, okay, I'm gonna cut him some slack. But if I she didn't do that before me, and now you introduce that to me, yeah. Oh come on, baby. Yeah, I feel you. Yeah, I'm my heart is too fragile for this, you know what I mean? Yeah, I respect that. Yeah, so you just do what you gotta do, bro. It was just a question that came up to mind. By the way, these questions are usually from you guys, and some of the questions I have found on the internet. No trolling, that's why I call them no trolling questions for the no trollers. That's the name of the audience, by the way. The no trollers, yeah, yeah. We cool down out here in the cool down here, bro. Yeah, okay. What's something about America you didn't realize shaped you until you left? What's something I I it's in America that what's something about America you didn't realize shaped you until you left? Um no trolling.

SPEAKER_03 56:56

Don't sweat it. I have a lot of people that I know that have been murdered. Like, yeah, I know you guys don't even know people. Like, that's not a thing here. Murdered. Murdered. I know people that I used to talk to that got shot in the head for selling drugs during a drug transaction. Know people that have, you know, been in the house by themselves and somebody come and shoot through the window.

unknown 57:23

What?

SPEAKER_03 57:24

Yeah, bro. So all of that has really caused me to, you know. It's it's some healing that comes behind experiencing that type of stuff. The first one of my the first murder I experienced was one of my cousins. He was murdered by the police. They shot him in the back. So that's the first time I I was probably I was young, bro. I was young. I was probably six, six or seven, bro.

unknown 57:54

What?

SPEAKER_03 57:54

Yeah. So I've I've experienced a lot of murders, man. Shit. Yeah. And coming up, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm saying coming from a uh a single family house, a single, a single mother house, bro, that's that's traumatizing.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

It is, dog. Like growing up with all this violence, dog.

unknown 58:12

Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

Did you go to therapy, bro?

SPEAKER_03 58:15

I didn't. Did you? I didn't. Never been to therapy. I've never been. I need to though, bro. That's on my list of things for this year to really go ahead and lock in with that. That's funny you asked.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Are you afraid of it?

SPEAKER_03 58:26

Do you feel like you're ready? That's a good question. I'm not afraid of it. I don't know. It's like I went to therapy once, bro, and the person gave me some bad advice.

unknown 58:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 58:39

Yeah. And I was like, nah, I ain't going back no more. Okay, okay. But I I w I picked the wrong therapist. Okay. And I also feel like, you know, therapy may be could be used against you sometimes, bro. That's why I'm slick. It's like, ah, still hesitant. Yeah, bro. But I know I need it. So it's like, ah. Yeah, bro. It's it's it's tough.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

Cause like when I when I had a conversation with uh Nadia, her name is a therapist, she's a good therapist. She runs an organization called Mind Matters. So basically, when I had a conversation with her, she said, sometimes suppressing all this can blow up in your face. In your face, bro. Yeah, and it's it's something you can overcome for sure. Yeah, but it'll be more difficult. Yeah, you gotta do the hard work, man. Yeah, and therapy is expensive. So if you really go about it, you when you start, it's like like medicine, you always gotta keep going. Gotta lock in with because you gotta you're pouring out your soul, bro, like your mind, your heart to somebody to help you him or her solve your problems. Yeah, so one of the goals for this year, bro, is to have a lot of professionals in the building, bro.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

Yeah, make it cool to really get yourself help.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

Yeah, bro. And the thing is, we we all want to build, bro. We all want to be become better versions of ourselves. So how how bro? We I try them I I try my best to do my audience a solid to bring these people who are uh well in tune with their craft, well informed as well. Yeah. So they can uh just spread the word, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

So what we do here is just spread the word.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

Yeah, that's good. And one thing I want to say while you're touching on that, it's not just about you know seeing it on your platform. It's important that we we we know that we can tailor our timelines. So we have to really pay attention to what we're watching and taking in because that helps the trauma stay. If you keep peeling off the same layer that you're trying to heal, you keep taking it off because you're watching and doing the and paying attention to the wrong stuff. So going to therapy helps, but you gotta clean your timelines up, bro. You can click not interested when certain things come up that you know we're pulling you in the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

Actually, now that I think of it, I forgot to ask her a question. How do you know this therapy this therapist is good for me or not? Damn, I wish I asked her that. Yeah, I think I'm a dude. I'ma I'm a I think if I do remember while I'm editing this, I think I'll call her.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

I said that so I can actually do that.

unknown 1:01:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

Because I edit my own shit. Yeah. You know, with the editing my own content, content has really built me, honestly. Understanding the way I talk, the way I just go about doing this podcast. This podcast has definitely built me, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:40

It helps you to elevate. I'm sure your first the the podcast episode from number one, your vocabulary is completely different to number 84.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro. I'll be learning the new words all the time, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

And we gotta implement them. And that's how you get that respect. That's how you get away from the fake people, bro. Because at the bottom, that's what I learned. Even me, I'm on the same journey of elevating and with the way that I speak, the way that I show up on camera and the way that I do things. When you at that low level, you attract them, bro. We we the same people. So as we grow, then we start getting in those circles with those people that we grew up to. Yeah, vocabulary is changing, man. Yes, it's a part of growth, young man.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

Thank you, Uncle.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:27

I'll take it. I'll take it. It's a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:30

Bro, you're unclear. You're a big bro, bro. Appreciate it, bro. What's the hardest reality check that hits you? You know, after relocating Africa.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

The hardest reality check is the hardest reality check. Oh, no trolling, by the way. Oh, no trolling. The hardest, the hardest reality check, no trolling, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:57

Oh, you're jumping for trolling. I'm interrupting your chain of thumbs. Okay, what's the hardest reality check you got after relocating?

unknown 1:03:13

No trolling.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

No trolling.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:17

What was I supposed to say?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:19

Don't sweat it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

Yeah, don't sweat it. Don't sweat it. The hardest reality check I had was I'll be real. Like, I knew it, but my wife, bro, my wife is a very important piece to what I got going on. Like, we as men, we feel like we can do it on our own. We gotta go figure it out. Yeah, I got it. You you just chill. Help stay there and you want to put them in your box and them to do that. Yeah. But they offer so much more, bro. So much more than we like to give credit for. So yeah, she's she's helped me to really get to where I am today. If it wasn't for her, bro, I wouldn't be at 100K right now on Instagram. Congrats, my dog, I didn't see that, bro. Appreciate it, man. When'd you hit that? Probably January. Um, in the middle, early January, bro. Early January.

unknown 1:04:09

Really?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

Yeah. That's starting to be. Recently.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:12

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

Recently, bro. And I had been at 90 for a long time. Long time, bro. But yeah, she came and helped me get over the hump with that and many other things, bro. So I underestimated the value of my wife, bro.

unknown 1:04:25

Whoa. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:28

Get married, guys. Get married. Yeah. It's a cheat code. It's a cheat code. It's a life. It's a cheat code.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:33

Actually, it's funny that you say that because a lot of people say uh it's either a wife or children are a blessing in your life.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:39

Both. The Bible says, who who finds a wife, who he who finds a wife finds favor in the sight of the Lord, bro. There's a lot of favor that comes from being a husband, bro. Yeah, man. It's a lot of work too. I ain't gonna lie. It's it's it's gonna make you work on yourself. But if you if you work hard and make sure you try to keep God first, bro, and do it, it'll work. But they they come with a blessing. Children do too. But wives do. They the wives bring the children. So they work together, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

I don't know in what if you ask me right now in how many years I think I'm gonna get uh have a wife, like uh marry somebody.

unknown 1:05:23

I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Yeah, you don't, bro. It'll it's gonna hit you one day, though. When you start asking those questions, that's when you know. Like, am I ready? That's when you know you're ready. When you start asking people around you who married, how you know when you're ready? Because you ask them the question. That's how you know you're ready. You having those conversations, that's how you know you're ready. A piece of you, you're gonna be splitting in half, though. You're gonna be like, I'm not ready, I'm just curious. But that's God pulling you in that direction to know like it's time to set this firm foundation. Because whatever you're building, that woman's intuition will help it get to another level. If she's with you building that, she's gonna help it go to another level. There's been so many videos, hooks, titles that my wife has helped me with that has helped the channel go a little bit to the next level. So there, if they're in it with you, they're gonna say and do some things and help you to get it, get it to where you want it to go, bro. They help meets. They come help.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:20

My mom always tells me to don't wait until you're successful or you have a house or you have a car. Just if you find a wife, just marry and build. Yeah, bro. What do you think of that neutral?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:33

Don't sweat it. I agree with your mother, bro, because my wife and I, we you you you really find who really is with you if you build something, bro.

unknown 1:06:43

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:44

If they come around while you built it, they're gonna it's some skepticism that comes with that.

unknown 1:06:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:48

So if you if she was in the mud with you, oh, she's oh, you know she's riding. So, you know, she sees you as nobody, exactly. I remember one time, bro, in America, my wife and I, we we ran into a tough moment and we y'all have yard sales here. I haven't heard of a yard sale.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

Yard sale. No, we don't have that here.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:07

You know what it is though, right? Yeah, I know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:09

So basically, if you don't know what a yard sale is, is basically you're putting your stuff in the yard and people just coming to buy.

unknown 1:07:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

So neighborhood, though. In the neighborhood, yes. But for us, we lived in an apartment, so we didn't have a a yard, yeah. So there was we looked online and there was a place that had they were like, you can bring your stuff, and we're having a public yard sale. So we hit a tough moment, bro, and we took everything that we didn't have need in the house, yeah, and we went to the yard sale together, bro. And I'm like, Damn, she's a rider, bro. When we did that, I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna let me go on. Let me just settle down.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

Let me not dumb, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:49

Let me not waste this. Yeah, bro, yeah. And I can I can gladly say, bro, not one time have I stepped out on my wife this whole time, bro. Publicly. Yeah, bro. I can publicly, I can publicly look in the camera and say, I've never slept with another woman outside of my wife. Whoa! Even when we got together, bro, like it was like, nah, I cut everybody off. I was like, nah, I'm locked in, bro. So eight years, bro. One woman, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:13

One woman, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:15

What's something you've learned from that?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Just one woman experience.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:19

They don't like that. She had to tell me, bro. She didn't like sometimes it's cool, but bro. Like, so I had to learn that, bro. That's one thing I learned. My bad, baby. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:43

No, but yeah, you learn that, bro. It's a different way that you gotta, you know, take care of your woman, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:50

Shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:55

They don't like that game. They don't like that all the time, man. Oh my god. Oh man, before I let you go, what part of you had to die to find the temple where we see today?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

What part of me had to die?

unknown 1:09:12

Had to cut it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

The lustful side. The lustful side of you, the lustful side, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

Damn, dealing with lust. Dealing with lust. I feel like that's the hardest thing man deal with. It is, bro.

unknown 1:09:24

It is.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

And then it's thrown at a lot of us too. It is. So if you don't have any self-control, it's easy for you to catch it and think it's oh, this is great. And you end up messing up what God wants you to build. So yeah. That's the one that lust. I had to really dial into that. But it was worth it though. Yeah. It was worth it. It was worth it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:44

How do you go about killing it or dialing it down?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

So I just always I I know the pain of creating something from lustful desires. I I was a result of it. I lived in an environment where I didn't see my mom and dad together. So I don't want to recreate that. And I remember when I was a little boy, bro, like six years old, and my mom and dad dynamic, he called her his baby mama. Like in the conversation he would have with people, this is my baby mama. And she would say, That's my baby daddy, not my husband or wife. So I was telling my dad one day, like, hey dad, one day I can't wait to have a baby mama. He was like, Ah, son, no. I remember vividly, he's like, nah, that's not what you want. You want to get a wife and you want to do it properly. So when he did that, it's that stuck with me, bro. So I know like this is what I have to do. Yeah. There's no other way. Yeah. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

Don't have a baby mama.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

Don't have a baby mama, bro. It gets crazy. It gets crazy. I know my dad, my dad, he he warned me. He warned me. He was like, you don't want to do this. And I watched him struggle because it because what he did to my mother, bro, she she holds some, you know, resentment and bitterness towards him.

unknown 1:11:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:03

And that reflected into us. And he wasn't able to do my dad can't even get a passport because he owes for child support.

unknown 1:11:13

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:13

Yeah, bro. If you owe child support, they wouldn't allow you to get a passport to go out the country, bro. So it's so many things that come from being lustful. You end up putting yourself in a trap and you can't even get out of that environment, bro. So yeah, that lust had to go. Because I know I knew that nah.

unknown 1:11:32

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:33

I'll be like, but um, you know, being a single parent is hard. Yeah, bro, it's hard. You know, and um I've seen uh friends who are single parents. You know, shout out to the single mothers and yeah, shout out to y'all. I know it's hard, y'all, but you know, praise and and we all know what the results of having sex with somebody. We all know. Sometimes we like to dial it down and be like, ah nah, nah, we good, we good. Yeah. And then when y'all have a child, some of y'all, some girls would be like, oh, it's a curse to take away a child. Or some girls will be like, no, I'm not taking a baby, I'm not getting an abortion, I don't want that for my body.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

Yeah, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:16

And if you do end up in a situation where you become a father because it was you have to take responsibility, right? And do you have any advice for those type of people who they weren't planning to be a father, but now it's on their table.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:34

Yeah. And they want to get away from it, but they can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

I would say, well, first, shout out to the single fathers too, bro. It's some some mothers that left some fathers hanging too out there, bro. Some of them struggling. Yeah. Yeah. But I would say, how can I say, You got a man up. You you created it. You know what came with this. Yeah. You know what came with it. And I've I've met, I know men who paid for abortions, who've lived through that with a woman. And it hunts them sometimes, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:14

For real.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:14

It hunts them. It hunts them, bro. They think about how old the baby would be now. Oh. They always think about it, bro. Some people don't. They may try to push it down, but that's that's that's murder. That's a baby. Like, that's blood on your hands. So if you've done it, repent. Like, some people may get convicted from watching this. Like, that's somebody you killed. So that's something you're gonna have to pay for or get cleansed from. Some come with that. So don't kill that baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:47

Man up or woman up. But usually when it's very early on, they be like, it's just cells.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:52

That's what they told us to kill ourselves, bro. That's why I escaped hell. They taught us that. That's a lie from hell. Soon as the soon as your sperm goes into that woman's egg, that is life, bro. That's life. So they taught us that so we can keep killing ourselves. That's that was a planned thing. Margaret Sanger, planned parenthood. Look it up. They wanted us to do that, bro.

unknown 1:14:19

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:20

Yeah, so nah, that's not true. That's a baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

Well, best way to end it though. Man up to your responsibilities, woman up to your responsibilities.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

Yeah, you lay down. Make it happen. God will provide. You should have done it married, but we all make mistakes. The baby not a mistake. Y'all figure it out and get it done. Don't run from it.

unknown 1:14:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:43

Damn. Sad way to end the podcast. Don't sweat it. Don't sweat it. Don't sweat it. But yeah, that was episode 84 with Tim Ford, man. It was an honor to have you, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:56

Thank you, brother. I appreciate the opportunity, man. Thank you for sharing your platform with me, bro. You're building something magical, bro. I'm glad to be a part of this, man. Appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:03

And thank you for showing up and bearing with me with all the technicalities for the day.

unknown 1:15:08

You're welcome, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

Yeah, but until next time, gang. Peace.