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Episode 3: Could We Survive Being Teens Today? Men’s Mental Health & More
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In Episode 3, we ask whether we could survive being teenagers today, get honest about men’s mental health, and somehow wander into a few other topics along the way. Two dads, no plan, and plenty to say.
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Mr. Anthony Roberts live in the house. Good evening, Rob. Hey, buddy, how are you? I'm doing awesome. How are you? Well, you know, I'm still smiling, still uh moving along. You know, even old uh cars keep moving along, you know, a lot of cracks and bumps and you know, funny noises, but I'm still doing it, buddy. It's all good, it's all good.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's good. No uh no put fungus today.
SPEAKER_02No, thank god. No, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone. For those that care, it didn't last very long, so that's okay. But yeah, hey, listen, you know what? So I have these two nieces, both and one is 18 turning 19, the other one's 15, turning 16, 14, turning 15, sorry. They're not blood nieces, but they are nieces to the extent that you know, like I love them and care about them, and that kind of stuff. Yeah, um, and we were just over there the other day and listening stuff, and man, my my my brain just started rattling crazy. You know, there's that adage that people always say stuff like kids today have it so much better than when I did, and you know, that you know, that kind of fodder. But yeah, I am I I don't know, man. Like, do you think you could survive being a teenager today in today's landscape, you know, knowing what they go through and stuff? But I mean, you're you're you're on the precipice of uh a preteen, so it's it's it's coming, dude. But I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I have to say that COVID fucked a lot of them up in terms of their their circles of like social circles and how school and everything kind of functions. So that that kind of set them back from our generation, which was like, you know, we never went through anything like that.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00They're definitely smarter than we are, so they got way more knowledge crammed into their brains than than we did at this time. I think, you know, at 10 years old, I was playing with an etch a sketch trying to draw a boat, you know, it was just a was just a squiggly line. Yeah, yeah, it was like mad skills to get that line straight down. Meanwhile, my my kid is like you know, building worlds uh online and and talking to a thousand people from around the world. Uh so yeah, they definitely have a different platform than we do.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. It it would sort of terrifies me. So I think if I'd asked myself that same question, right, could I survive today as a teenager? I guess uh vehemently I'd say no, I don't think I could. And the reason for that is one with you know cameras around every corner, people have on their phones, everything's being recorded. Evidence, dude. I well, not even evidence, like I didn't do anything illegal, but I did a lot of stupid shit, right? And I could see myself being one of those people who would be like, Oh my god, I want to get you know eight million likes, so I'm gonna jump off this building and you know, land in some haystack, like a video game, and cripple myself, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Or eat uh tide pods or whatever, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're right. Actually, there's been some crazy craze crazes out there, but yeah, and then but even from this the the perspective of you know watching my two nieces navigate like the emotional side of things, right? Like it it yeah, I mean things have changed. You're right. The landscape is so different, and maybe you're right, maybe it was you know, having a couple years of the pandemic sort of separate people from each other, and you know, these things became very paramount, but I I don't know, I don't think I could do it, man. I honestly couldn't.
SPEAKER_00Nope. I think there's a lot more introvert teens out there, you know, they don't like large circles of people, they don't go out to clubs like they, you know. We were stinking at clubs at 16 years old, they're not necessarily doing that. I never I'm not saying they're not doing that, I'm just saying like it's different generations in terms of I guess they they've got a million things they can do at that age, and versus we only had like you know, try to get some bull max beard in the park kind of stage, like there was nothing else to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And and it just even looking at the whole, you know, the perspective, like I said earlier, where you know you say, Oh, kids today have it better than we did, that does ring true. They're at a lot of very advantages today as opposed to what we had, right? So, like, number one is the you know, readily available information just by you know hopping on your phone, as my father in his uh mid 80s calls it my magic calculator. But even back in my day, well, I'd say my day makes me sound like you know, I'm a 90-year-old man, but I mean, argue, but you know, my body sure feels like it, that's for sure. You know, back in the day, if somebody would have said to me, like, uh, you know, the statistical requirement for ABCDE is this, I have no reason not to believe them or go to the library and figure it out and see if they're lying. Now I can call bullshit because my phone literally, I can just ask Siri or Google or Alexa, whatever, and you know, they'll spit out the energy or the information I need and you know, call on the spot. So having that information on hand, like super quick, being able to, I mean, uh, I'm gonna pretty much argue that there's nothing you can't learn how to do by watching a video online now. Everything is online, everything is there. So, from that part of I guess the climate and the environment, I think that would be fantastic. But I don't I can't yeah, and I'm pretty certain I couldn't handle the you know, the high intensity of what's going on from an online perspective for you know all these teenagers. And yeah, I mean that you know, my day was maybe one school bully had to deal with, and you know, now there's like online bullying, and there's you know, just it's just such a huge difference in the landscape.
SPEAKER_00But oh for sure, and and like we were you know wearing uh tidy whiteys with uh you know Sears clothing, they're wearing like brand name stuff, you know, makeup, yeah, um, you know, just crazy things that we would have never really thought of in our our time. And like in terms of the the technology, I mean, we needed to go to our parents' encyclopedia wall right next to the National Geographic, where you know, where we would learn our R stuff. So no, it's not the same world, yeah. And but you know, they had cooler toys, uh you know, toys that were might maybe more dangerous, but you know, definitely more dangerous, yeah. Like lawn darts, real ones.
SPEAKER_02I I actually know somebody, and this is a true story using lawn darts. My buddy, they were playing this crazy game of chicken where they throw it up in the air, and you know, you basically either run scared and lose the game, or you stand there and pretend that you're such a tough guy. Oh my god. And legitimately, his little brother, who's a year younger, was staring up at the sky, and of course, the sun's in his eye, and the lawn dart came right down with the big metal tip and knocked his two front teeth out.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. You know, that that kind of aligns with this topic is like there's they're also very protected now and very, dare I say it, soft.
SPEAKER_02Well, I would say also too hyper-aware, right? Because they're like hyper aware, yeah. Yeah, you know, we grew up in the in the era of, you know, and you know, this might go a lot further, but it's the uh you know, the era of uh, you know, boys don't cry. And you know, if you got a you know you compound fracture and your three ribs are sticking out of your your chest, it's uh go rub some dirt on it, you know, that kind of stuff. So there's more hyper-aweness now to the to the to the self, to the individual as well as people around you, and that's also a great thing, too, right? Because now that kind of a little bit more compassion for people, which is fantastic.
SPEAKER_00Culturally, people are laying more open to diversity and and inclusion. You know, the the when they look at the political spectrum, they tend to be the smarter ones, like that align more with social good morals. Absolutely. Um and you know, I I don't know. I don't know what it is to be a teenager now. I I have to admit, I I think I'm I would be a little scared of it. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_02Well that's fair, that's very fair. It's fair statement.
SPEAKER_00And like you said, like there's a lot of things I did that was really dumb, like really dumb late-night taxes to women or girls, and and you know, things that I don't want paper trails of, like really dumb, dumb things, you know, and like back then it was like pagers and stuff, like it wasn't a big deal. Yep, but but now, you know, yeah, a lot of things, you know, from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, uh, you know, all the things. So yep.
SPEAKER_02And it's it's crazy too, is that you know, like there are some countries, and I think it's I think it's France that just did it, but they are banning social media for uh all teenagers under the age of 15. Oh, yeah. Right. So yeah, so even then from that perspective, having the you know, the ability to get online, yeah, the information is there and stuff, but it also opens up a whole new different world for them. And you know, 100%. I I look at it with that double-edged sword, right? I look at them and saying, Well, that you know, having all that information and being being able to be creative and stuff, but the downside of it too is that you open up a door to an entire world, and there are nefarious people out there, and nefarious things can happen, right? So yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, maybe I'll say, Could I survive today as a teenager?
SPEAKER_00Maybe you know, they they have one advantage though, is uh is all these like dating apps and the swipe left and right thing, like uh to meet people and get out there. I've got friends in Montreal and stuff, like they they go on a lot of dates and it gives them the opportunity to meet a lot of people. And for us to do that, it required a lot more balls to like go up to someone and say, I like you. Do you like me? Let's go hang out, you know, let's go see a movie or whatever. Yep, and now you're kind of being matched digitally, which you know that's how I met my wife, but later on in life when these things came out, not prior. So there's something to that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, 100%. You're you're you're exactly right. And it's crazy that you know, like you you gave the scenario of walking up to somebody in a let's say in a bar, for example, and you'd be like, Hey, you know what? I you know, I really like you. Uh, hope you like me, you want to go on a date, and then it would take you three or four weeks to you know go through the whole uh, you know, what do you like? What are your goals in life, that kind of stuff. Where on these apps, it legitimately matches you from an algorithm of, you know, I like dogs, I hate cats, or you know, anti-birds and that kind of stuff. So you're absolutely right. That's definitely a huge advantage, but I also think it's a disadvantage too, because it takes away from that experience of of growth, yeah. Like, listen, yeah, you're a growth, like being being shun down is a huge learning curve, you know. It being able to, like you said, grow the pair of balls to walk over and say, you know, what's up, and that kind of stuff. So, or as Joey used to do it, how you doing? How you doing? Yeah, how you doing? But yeah, you're right. Definitely advantages, but diff disadvantages too. And yeah, so again, yeah, to all teenagers out there, for folks that have teenagers, you know, God help you and God bless you. But yo, I I couldn't do it, man. I could not do it. I'm very glad my son is 32, way beyond those teenage years. So that's uh nothing I really gotta worry about. But how old are you again? I'm uh I'm 25.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. And and in dog years, what is that? 54. 54. All right, I'm I'm 46. So, you know, transitioning there from from teenagers uh to now, you know, I can't say that life is always easy on men and and and our our kind of mental well-being and in the in the grand scheme of things. I think that's something we can talk about.
SPEAKER_02You know what? It's it you're you're right. I think I jumped on a little bit by uh identifying, of course, based in our age. We both come from that. I don't know if people want to call it toxic or you know, toxicity or what that, but we both grew up in the era of, you know, like I said before, boys don't cry. You can't show emotion, you can't show weakness, you know, if it hurts, you rub dirt on it and stuff. And I, you know, I I can tell you definitively, like there, this is not hyperbole, this is not me making stuff up, but when I had the car accident, oh my god, it'll be 10 years next month. I started going to talk therapy. Part of it was just to actually create an ability to get back in a car again, right? So it's like this step ladder kind of approach about you know being able to deal with all the anxiety and stuff. And and started getting into this, you know, talk therapy and started going twice a week. And you know, I I'm not afraid to shape or ashamed to say it. It is the best thing I've probably done in my entire life as far as like self-care for myself. I encouraged so many of my fellow you know guy friends to do the same. You know, they all go like what you're gonna go talk your feelings. I'm like, dude, do it. Like it is, you know, you might scoff at it now or tell me to, you know, take away my man card, whatever you want to do, but it is so important and such a relief for me that I have a sounding board. I have, man, I don't know if I'm allowed to say her name. You know what? I don't care. Jessica Raven. She is a phenomenal psychotherapist. She has put up with my shit for 10 years, she has helped me so much. And a lot of that was to combat the whole, you know, I'm a man, I will cry, I won't show emotion, you know, it's not there's no point in it. And it really was just self-destructive. And even in general conversations I have with my guy friends, who I would say 95% are my age, a lot of them still have that mentality. Like we just had a little bit of a reunion with a bunch of schoolmates two weeks ago, I think it was. And even hearing the conversations from them, a lot of them still have that mentality of, you know, like uh one guy said that uh, you know, he had lost his job, and so that must be very tough for you. And he's like, Yeah, whatever. It's just you know, I'm a man, I can deal with the kind of thing. And I was like, Wow, like you're you're eat your feelings, you're bearing things, and yeah, it's it's it's so self-destructing. I've learned now, I'm a huge advocate for it. I don't know, do you partake in a talk therapy?
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, no, I did therapy for I would say about a decade until recently, and from time to time, myself and my partner will do couple therapy as well, just to kind of ground ourselves. But in terms of like my own well-being, you know, I I don't always process things very well, so it can manifest in like short temper or anger. And you know, uh having had some therapy to kind of talk through that and and and finding ways to kind of grounding myself and preparing myself mentally for certain situations ahead of time so that I don't, you know, blow it. Um is extremely helpful. I also had addiction issues with gambling that uh that I I you know without therapy, I I would have been screwed, you know. So yeah, I'm definitely pro-therapy. I think it's fine that men want to be, you know, like you know, target trucks, you know, whatever. But and that is fine. If it's within their identity, that that's fine. But I think that the the goal of this conversation is to say you can be that and and you can take care of your your your you know your well-being. Yeah, you you can share with people. Some people are really good listeners, and it really does help to talk. And and I think that stigma of you know, boys will be boys is no longer a thing. Agreed, you know. I like grace anatomy. I do cry when I'm sad, you know. It's um it's okay. And I think as parents, uh, I mean, we gotta this is what we're showing our kids too, right? And this is what they're gonna show their kids, right? Correct. So yeah, I think it's generational.
SPEAKER_02Yep, absolutely. Hey, by the way, you just briefly mentioned it, but uh again, I know I told you in before when I met you and we talked and stuff, but dude, proud of you for overcoming the gambling thing that is uh huge. And yeah, you know, it it is something that is very, very, very I'm not gonna say it's required, but it is such an advantage to have somebody that for the most part doesn't have skin in the game, but is there to listen to you, like you said.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, a professional that knows how to kind of uh unline the the mess of your brain, you know, a partner is not there to be your therapist, correct there to be your your co-pilot in life and shared experiences and and you know all that kind of stuff, but they're not there to be your doctor, and so it's really important to kind of find people for that, yeah. And and I know that there's a cost to this, but sometimes honestly, even if you can schedule an appointment a month, yep. So a lot of employers will have a bare minimum amount of insurable benefits that you can get at least four sessions out of the year, exactly, and and that's you know, if it's one session every three months, then start with that.
SPEAKER_02It's and you know what's crazy is that that that's a perfect sort of segue for me because I don't know if you knew this about me, but uh, I'm currently oh screwed. Let's try that again. I am currently going through the training process and stuff. So I've been accepted, but I'm in the training process right now being uh part of the uh Ottawa Distress Center. So I'll be on the other end of phone calls that people can call in. So you mentioned that you know, that's involved huge. This is free, right? So this is free for people to call in 100%. Part of the reason why I wanted to be part of the distress center was because of that exact thing. Like, you know, mental health is so important, and sometimes it's just a matter of listening for two or three minutes, you know, telling somebody that it's okay, that it was a bad day, and then off you go. And it's it's not always the extreme side of like, you know, someone's you know, suicidal idea ideology, idea, yeah, something like that. You know, it sure those can get there, but at the same time, my middle grounder, yeah. Yeah, my you got it, exactly, right? So I understand the importance of how it helped me so much. I want to be able to do the same. And yeah, so very good point. You're right. There's a cost involved to uh see uh professionals that will definitely help you, but you know, nine times out of ten, it's just someone to talk to that doesn't have skin in the game that's not going to get upset because you might have called them a name or that kind of stuff, or you know, uh bruised your ego, you know, it it can give them a call, you know, they're there 24-7 to talk to you to help you through it. And you know, if you need more help, they will you know guide you the way.
SPEAKER_00So and I guess one thing I wanted to add too is like when you're looking for a therapist, they're they're not all winners, you know, and it's not because they they may not be good at their job, it's just they may not you may not drive with them, and it's important to drive them. So, you know, if you do a session with someone and you don't drive, like don't waste your time at you know, at their salary, you you walk away from that and you find someone else that that that fits with you, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And they're out there, uh hundred percent they're out there, and so yeah, actually, Mel and I also did uh couples therapy way, way back, and it was one of the best things we ever did for a relationship. And our first uh first goal at it was I I don't think it was the therapist to me wasn't really cohesive, I guess, with what we wanted to gain and stuff, and it just didn't feel right. But then after that, man, we were rocking and rolling. So you're right, man. It's it's you don't like it. Remember, you're paying for it, you know, it's the service that you're requiring and requesting, and yeah, you're right, just shop it out. But for the most part, you know, a lot of them are absolutely amazing, and yeah, I encourage you all. All uh all you dads, all you moms, all you couldn't have to be a mom or dad. Um, you know, I shouldn't just say that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, no, it's uh anything.
SPEAKER_02Everybody, you got it.
SPEAKER_00And and you know, it doesn't always require like if you're depressed, you know, uh I'm bad at this. This is where I get really bad. But I mean, if you can go out for a walk every so like a couple of times a day, even that can can be a game changer, uh, very therapeutic. Yep, you know, find a hobby that really interests you. Like, I know like me sitting outside with my chickens and just watching them be grounds me more than than anything. Like I I come back a better human being. So just buying something that that you know you can you can do on your own that doesn't necessarily cost money, and uh and that's good for for the the brain too. And of course, you know, all the basic stuff like eat well and go to bed, but I don't do that. And I uh you know, or I do, but I don't, you know? Yeah. Like even right now having a beer, you know, it's uh it is what it is.
SPEAKER_02It's a light beer, so you're okay.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I'm at that age where light beer is like heavy, it's a heavy beer. Yeah, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02No, you know what? Thanks for sharing, dude, because it it's something that uh again, it's a stigma still, it's still out there. You're right, the younger generation now don't look at it as a stigma, and they're definitely taking care of themselves that way. But again, rolling back into you know, could uh could I survive being a teenager today? Yeah, I don't think they're good, Brad.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Like, I I would I would almost like to have some teenagers on the show so we can talk about it because uh I mean we just don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh you know, we don't know their perspective, we can only kind of guess. Correct. Um, and and and I think, you know, just from a from a distance, I'm looking at it and I'm like, no, thanks, you know. And and they're just like super knowledged on everything. Like for us, like we had to discover like how to fringe kiss. Like, we had no idea what was coming our way. You know, it was just like first base, second base, third base was the only rule we knew, you know. They know the entire anatomy of the female body, yeah, at the age of five, you know. So it's like whatever. I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
SPEAKER_02You're right, you're right. It would be kind of funny to actually get a perspective like that. I never really thought of it. Maybe the next time I'm hanging with them, or maybe we'll get lucky and someone would say, Hey, I'll go on your show and you know, we can kind of crosstalk it that way. But yeah, I I think that might actually open up a can of worms too, where it might be, you know, we say, Oh, you have it so easy today, and they'll say, you know what, you're you're Galulu, you know, you guys had us so much better back in the day. But yeah, who knows?
SPEAKER_00Uh Robert, can you share? I don't even know it because it's a little tricky, but what is our new email that people can write in and and maybe you know give us that feedback? You know, are we off base here with what we're saying?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, really, right? We're basically you can call in or text in or whatever, uh, sorry, email in and tell us to stick it in our hat. But yeah, at the bottom of uh all of our podcasts now there'll be a footer with it. But uh for those that want to know, it's it is 2dnop at gmail.com. And I know that sounds a little weird, I guess, but it's uh t w o dn o p at gmail.com. So 2d no p at gmail.com. Write us, you know, tell us that we suck, tell us that we're great, tell us just tell us anything. Maybe you know, you you want to volunteer, you got a specialized uh area of like expertise in being a a father or just be daddy.
SPEAKER_00Anything, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Really, it's no plan here. Yeah, you're right, exactly. Well, it's funny, right? We're like, hey, send us some information and we'll well, no plan. Uh you know, our people will call your people. Yeah, that's uh that's perfect. So, in addition to that, we Anthony and I have actually come up with something a little new that we're gonna do it every episode now. And uh new segment, yeah, brand new segment. So, hey Tony, Anthony. Yes, I know I just did it. Let's try it again. Hey Anthony, yes, guess what time it is? It's time for hold my juice box.
SPEAKER_00Hold my juice box.
SPEAKER_02So this is our our take on the you know, grind my gears, Peter Griffin kind of thing. But yeah, so we're gonna start with our inaugur inaugur inaugural. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our very first ever hold my juice box in there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I had a I had a moment this week. Well, I I just wish somebody videotaped me. But I I went to the mall to work and I let my two kids walk around the mall to go shopping with no money though, like you know, have them put the stuff aside that you like, and at the end I'll grab my old laptop and I'll come over and see what you want to get and and buy it for you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I go into this clothing store and my 10-year-old, almost 11-year-old, shows me this I'm gonna say skimpy, skimpy looking shirt with little wires and like I don't know, booby area and no back. And I'm sitting there going, like, wait a fucking minute, what the hell is this? This isn't like a caraber t-shirt. The fuck is this? And she's explaining it to me. No, dad, it's not a sexy thing. It goes here and it looks quite nice. And I'm like, but you don't have boobs. Like, what the hell are you gonna do with this? She's like, No, no, it's not like that if you do this and that. So I'm like, you know what? I like okay, I believe you. Worst case, your mother's gonna return it. You know, I don't know, I don't know what to do. I'm sitting there in this store with this thing, I don't even understand what I'm looking at. And and and it turns out, like, you know, she she uh she looked great in it and it was super adorable, and yeah, and there was nothing actually nothing sexy about it, it was just more of a WT moment, uh WTF, sorry, WTF moment for me where I was just like, Oh my god, what is happening? And and so that is my whole my juice box dad moment of the week.
SPEAKER_02Uh that is crazy, dude. I mean, I can't compare. I've always said that I'm very, very blessed that I had a boy and not a girl because I don't look like I could do it. Mel always says to me, What if we had a girl? You know what? There's an adage that you know, every dad wants a boy, but every dad needs a girl. And I could see myself just like you being very much involved, and they would the one, two, the three, whatever, they would have me so wrapped that you know, an event like what you just mentioned would be again to me, like, what the fuck? You're 10 years old, what is going on?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but at the same time, big no, but yeah, right. Yes, for some reason.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it it's it's it's the new the new landscape, right? So it's that you know, my just being an old old dad and you know not getting with the uh quote unquote times and stuff, but yeah, when he I the minute I minute you said that I went to the mall and I let them go and do that, I was like, dude, you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_00Uh you know, they they surprised me though. I thought they were gonna come back with like all kinds of crap, and they they found some really good clothes and really good stuff, and I was like, Good job, girls, but then you know, then she showed me that thing, and I was like, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_02So let me ask, did they they picked some great options and stuff, but were they stuff on sale?
SPEAKER_00Did they were are they cognizant of the pricing at this point, or did they just like this is really no no, they had no concept of that, so I did have to take a few things away, but you know, one step at a time, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Of course.
SPEAKER_00Uh I think this was the first time I let them walk around for like an hour without me being their shadow around the mall. I was literally just on my laptop, uh, you know, letting them be, let them grow. Good for you, buddy. Good for you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Wow, that's crazy, man. I could just, like I said, in my mind's eye, I'm I'm I'm thinking the same thing. Like, you know, if if my daughter or even any of my nieces came up to me and said, you know, hey Uncle Rob, what do you think of this? I I think my first thought is the same thing. There's no care bear on the front of that. What the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_00You know, this sweater on and don't ever take it off. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah, I don't know, man. You're you're you're you're a much braver man than I am.
SPEAKER_00I no, no, don't say that. That's not true at all. I'm chicken barbers. You're gonna get to know that. But it's gonna look into that, vote me.
SPEAKER_02Maybe that's why you're so comfortable hanging around the chickens all the time.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes. Well, like, yes, people. I think the older I get, the the the more I want to be with animals and less I want to be with the human species. Absolutely. So we made it to uh to like three episodes of our this is yeah, Robert Dream still, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I actually talked about this last night, so I'm also back to trying out coaching. So I haven't coached soccer in 10 years because of the accident, messed my brain up. I had a bunch of players that I coached for like a decade with Caden reach out to me and asked me, and you know, I was like, Well, I'll I'll try. All you gotta do is stand there and tell them, you know, give them directions, that kind of stuff. So I've been doing it for the last uh couple weeks, and you know, it's been amazing. You know, as far as uh a mental health thing, I can openly say that after the first game and helping out and having them so you know, bringing me into the fold and that kind of stuff, I I drove home crying. That's how much that's how happy I was, and I missed it so much. Oh well. But, anyways, I digress. Uh another old old parent that was obviously a parent, one of the kids that I coached, and we got to talking and yeah, it was actually quite uh quite a uh a talk. And I I mentioned that hey, you know, I'm doing a podcast, and he was like, A what? I said, Yeah, he goes, What are you talking about? I said, Nothing. He said, like, what is this like a Seinfeld kind of thing? I said, No, no. I said, our our platform is two dads, no plan. And legitimately, we just you know, we'll ramble on and you know, just you know, uh have an opportunity to just sling ideas and words and stuff back and forth. And I find, I don't know about you, but I find this actually very therapeutic, right? It's cathartic for me. Yeah, um, and dude, you're right. It's it's the dream that I had is actually coming to a reality. And you're right, number three.
SPEAKER_00I did not have this in my 2026 bingo card, but hey, I'm loving it. It's a great experience growing and learning from it, and and I get to hang out with you, you know. So, no, and it's great. And and and again, I I I look forward to tapping into your support knowledge a little bit because we haven't tapped into any of that, and I know that's a big part of who you are. So absolutely, yeah. Well, I'm very excited to to get into that and and many other no plan type of conversations uh moving forward. So I will see everyone in in two weeks, and absolutely everyone stay safe.
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SPEAKER_02Absolutely. So much love to everybody, Anthony. As always, sir, much of the best. Talk to you soon, be well, and have a wonderful, wonderful evening. Take care, Robert. Bye, buddy.
