Ratatouille (Movie Review)

Luke and Jackson review Ratatouille and compare it to modern Disney Pixar movies. Ratatouille was initially written by Jan Pinkava and Jim Capobianco but ultimately rewritten and directed by Brad Bird.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Ratatouille. A seemingly humble movie about a rat, but actually about much more. The chef special of Pixar Movies. Welcome back, everyone, to the Motion Picture Podcast. My name's Luke, and I'm joined here today with my friend Jackson. And today we'll be reviewing Ratatouille and how it differs from today's Pixar Disney movies. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. So I know most of you, probably all of you have probably seen Ratatouille, probably one of the most famous Pixar Disney movies of all time. Up there in the B role of all the different Pixar characters going across the screen when they open up. Jackson, really, what did you think about the movie when you just watched it? And maybe I'll ask, what did you think about it compared to your childhood? What stood out differently now that you're an adult? And what did you maybe gather differently?

SPEAKER_02 1:04

I've always loved this movie, and this time was no different. I actually probably appreciated it more because I noticed and recognized things I hadn't seen before. Something that stood out to me that was different from my childhood, though, was the animation quality. Especially coming after, especially coming out of Toy Story 5.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

That's true. Well, let me ask you a question, and that kind of leads into the next segment of this about animation. Did you think that the you know the the comparison of Toy Story 5 versus Ratatouille? Do you think the animation detracted from Ratatouille when you looked back at it? Or do you think, and I don't want to leave the witness on it, do you think it added a different texture to the movie that a newer animation wouldn't have worked with?

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Yeah, that's a good question. I feel like sometimes new animation detracts from the story because it's so pretty to look at, you get lost in it. So I do think Ratatouille, while it wasn't stellar animation anymore, it didn't distract me at all from the story, and I still felt very invested in the story.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Yeah, that's fair. I think one part of the animation I enjoyed, and I agree, the animation isn't as good as Toy Story 5. You know, the character is a little more rudimentary in terms of you know fluidity, body movement, you know, faces. But I think one thing I enjoyed was at least in the beginning, there's times where they actually provide camera focus in animation and so blur out the background, and they provide you know, interesting, almost like it's cinematography. And I don't remember if they did that in Toy Story 5 or any of the newer Pixar movies, but it felt like they were trying to create a feeling of you know, live action, cinematography, focus of the camera, but through animation, however, maybe rudimentary it was back in 2007. Yeah, that's fair. Do you feel like there were complexities of this movie that you didn't pick up as a child that you pick up now?

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Yeah, for sure. I also picked up on a few adult jokes that I didn't pick up on before. Like when Remy is walking through the initial restaurant in the Vince, he comes across a dude painting a naked woman. Yeah. I don't know if you caught that.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

I I remember that, and then the the the couple who's like about to kill each other, and then they start making out.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Yeah, and then he she's pointing a gun at him, and then obviously shoots the ceiling, and then they start making out.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Yeah, yeah, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

But along with that, there were some I guess heavier parts of the story I picked up on just in terms of being limited by who you are and what you are, and having to overcome that, and also the complexities of relationships, and yeah, how'd you feel about it?

SPEAKER_00 4:10

I agree. I think there was a lot more, far more metaphors than I picked up on originally throughout the movie. I think a few different ones. It's really in my mind, which I didn't pick up as a kid necessarily, but in my mind, it's trying to paint this thematic portrait of coming from humble beginnings and really being able to do anything despite those beginnings. And it it paints that through a few different visuals. It painted, paints it through Linguini and him being a garbage boy and actually being Gusteau's son, paints it through Remy the rat, not Ratatouille, his name's not Ratatouille. Yeah, I thought that was a good thing. Common misunderstanding. Yeah. Paints it through Remy, being a rat, obviously. That's a you know juxtaposition versus the kitchen, the last place you'd want a rat. But you know, he ends up actually becoming or being critiqued as the best chef in France by uh I think France's you know highest ego, yeah, ego, the most renowned food critic in France. And then I think that the end painting or bringing out the dish Ratatouille, it being, I think, what they called a peasant dish, it being elevated to that position that was a part of the you know part of Ego's review being the best chef in all of France. And I think it had a lot of different metaphors that were subtle, especially when you know I was a kid, but as I was an adult, was able to pick up on differently.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Yeah, you said it really well. I love the gusto saying anyone can cook. Yeah. It was cool how the characters remembered that through the plot, and it spoke really true to especially Remy's story and Linguini.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

Yeah, they definitely they did a good job of taking a subtle through line of that theme and really nailing it down subtly through the characters, like you said, they would, you know, mention it, they would come back to it. They would it was used as a saying to remind people of this core central theme, and I think it wasn't overdone, it was you know cooked just right. Well said, cooked just right. Um, one other thing, you had mentioned Gousteau, and I think one thing that stands out is Gousteau as a character being Remy's or a figment of Remy's imagination, kind of symbolizes his own view of himself. So throughout the movie, he doesn't really have the confidence to you know go at it on his own. He's trying to take advice from a figment of his imagination because he feels like he he can't actually do anything. He needs Gousteau, and then Gusteau kind of disappears. Actually, the sign goes blank, and it's kind of a a visualization that he he's defeated, he can't move on, he doesn't feel like he has the power. But then when he's in the cage later, after getting trapped, I think it was I don't know his name, the evil French guy.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Oh, Skinner.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Skinner, yeah. They don't say his name a whole lot, but yeah, Skinner. Um, Gousteau kind of reveals to Remy that he doesn't need the figment of his imagination to be a great cook. He's already a great cook. And I think, although, well, not subtle, but not overdone in a lot of ways. And I think that that through line really was a better way of representing his internal emotions than I think they could have done alternatively. But the director, Brad Bird, actually came onto the project late and changed quite a few things. I read a Rotten Tomatoes article about him. He actually, I think Gusteau was originally going to be actually alive in the movie. Um, they made Colette a, you know, a greater character. He actually made you know quite a few, you know, material changes about the movie, and I think it all ended amazingly in the way he came on late in the project. Not to say everybody who was working on it previously didn't do a great job, but it was interesting to see you know the the changes he made resulted in an amazing movie.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah, I agree. Brad Bird is definitely a talented director and writer for sure.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Didn't he did he do Toy Story One?

SPEAKER_02 8:38

He did not. He did uh The Incredibles, though, and The Incredibles 2. He also did Tomorrowland, if I'm not mistaken. And then I believe he has a new movie coming out this year called A Ray Gun.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Really? Mm-hmm. What's Ray Gun about?

SPEAKER_02 8:57

It's a detective movie set in the 30s, I believe. Okay. So it looks pretty good. He also directed Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Oh, really? So he's got a He's got a few under his belt. He's got a few different things. Jackson, what did you think about the way do you feel like this movie was cohesive in the French theme and the cooking theme, or do you think it was overdone at all? I know there's I mean, from the the soundtrack to the visuals to even the the sound or the sounds like of different people or characters running around or doing things were kind of all in that vein. What did you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Yeah, I felt like it was done very nicely and really immersed me in the movie. I think that was a great setting for the story, especially the backdrop of the Eiffel Tower just symbolizing dreams and Remy having that in Linguini having that always in their peripheral.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

That's a very good point. Especially, I think one of the greatest animation scenes is in the beginning where he first gets to France, or for he already lives in France, sorry. He first gets to Paris and he gets out of the restaurant and he climbs up the building, and it kind of has the slow French music, and then as he goes up to the top, he sees like the the Parisian landscape, sees the Eiffel Tower to your point, and kind of sets that north star for the movie.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Absolutely. I love that scene. The soundtrack is so good, man.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Yeah, it blows it out of the water.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah, definitely elevates the material.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Yeah, and it's interesting to your point, kind of that being a central thread, at least the Eiffel Tower, especially when he gets into the I think he you can see can you see the Eiffel Tower from Linguini's apartment?

SPEAKER_02 10:46

You can, yeah. You can see it from everyone's apartment, I think.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Apparently you can see the Eiffel Tower from anywhere in Pink.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

And the Gousteau sign is always visible, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Yeah, the big Gusteau sign. That is a massive sign. It's pretty cool though. What did you think about, I guess, the characters and the way maybe the protagonist was either juxtaposed against the antagonists or the protagonist was elevated by other side characters.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

The are you referring to the protagonist Linguini or Remy?

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Either one.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

I feel like Linguini was definitely juxtaposed amongst the other chefs, especially the lead chef. Just being inexperienced and green, the former chef, Skinner, was very stuck in his ways, very greedy. I mean, he was making a line of frozen meals in different cultures.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

I don't think I picked up on that last time.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Yeah. That was a pretty funny. He was making money moves. It was it was pretty funny. And he was actually gonna use Remy to make more frozen burritos.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

I don't know if you I didn't catch that the first time either.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Yeah, I didn't either. So that was pretty funny. But yeah, I felt like Linguini definitely juxtaposed the other chefs. And then Remy was different from all the other rats who were just motivated by food.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Yeah, so they were very much Linguini and Remy were very much in parallel to their own kind of communities. Definitely outsiders. Yeah, which is interesting that them coming together really created, you know, something special and created, I think, a lot of these themes and lessons throughout the movie.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Do you agree with and every Disney Pixar movie has a happy ending? Do you feel like the happy ending in this case, which was essentially ego flipping flipping the script and becoming actually a friend of Remy and Linguini and actually a business partner? Do you feel like that was the right move in terms of uh writing, or do you feel like you know, a lot of other Pixar movies may just defeat? I mean, he's not a you know a fantasy evil person, so it'd be weird to defeat him. But in this case, do you feel like that was the right move in terms of the writing?

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Yeah, I think it was a great ending. It also served Anton Ego's character in a way it wrapped up his story in that he spent his whole life criticizing people and being negative, and now he's getting to experience the other side and remember the joy of cooking. And so I thought we wrapped up his story really well, and I did think it ended perfectly for Linguini and Remy and the other characters. Linguini doesn't have to live in the shadow of his father anymore and gets to do his own thing and doesn't have to act anymore, and then Remy gets to live out his dream of cooking and providing for his community, so I thought it ended perfectly.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Yeah, yeah, that that's a great point about even having a story, a side story about a villain, and them even having even I think it was maybe five minutes, not five minutes, I think the ending is close to twenty minutes or something like that. But even the 20 minutes having a almost you understand the story of his upbringing and then his whole character arc being kind of a non-central character until the end.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, they did it perfectly through that backstory. Not that they told it verbally, but they showed it visually, and I feel like it was so much more impactful because of that.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Yeah, yeah. Now you mentioned about Gousteau and Linguini living in a shadow. Do you believe that Linguini is Gousteau's son?

SPEAKER_02 14:39

You know, ultimately it doesn't really matter. It did advance the plot. Mm-hmm. But even if not, Linguini still believes he's Gusteau's son after that revelation. So I don't think it'd really matter much to the story, even if he wasn't truly his biological son.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Well, I say that to say in the movie the lawyers getting the DNA test, and he says originally he had to send the sample back because originally it came up as a rodent. So when he sent the sample back to get retested and it tested positive, was that still Remy's hair?

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Oh, so you think Remy is Gousteau's son?

SPEAKER_00 15:22

I don't know. Remy can cook.

SPEAKER_02 15:24

Remy can cook, and Linguini can't.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

I know this is a hot take, but that would be the only logical conclusion I can make.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Okay. I appreciate your hot take. I have a couple questions for you. Yeah. Um, first of all, do you think Gousteau mated with a rat?

SPEAKER_00 15:44

I can't I can't explain why he would be why it would have tested positive. Unless I miss something in the movie, I can't explain why.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

I thought he said that they had to send the rat hair back because it was rat hair.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

But I thought he said he had to test it again. He said the first time it came back as rodent.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

We'll leave this one up to the audience. Do you guys think Remy is Gusteau's son?

SPEAKER_00 16:14

What would be more reasonable?

SPEAKER_02 16:17

Probably uh I actually agree with you. You know, Remy is probably Gusteau's son. It would just make so much more sense.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

We can leave it ambiguous.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

We'll leave it open.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Yeah. Now back to kind of our central argument about Disney Pixar. How do you feel like this movie differs from the Pixar movies of today? And maybe we'll take Toy Story 5, for instance, whether it be thematically, whether it be complexity, whether it be we talked about animation, um, but how do you feel it differs? How do you feel like it was better or even worse? And how do you feel like you know the riding was overall?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Obviously, it's more original than most of the modern Pixar movies. It's not a sequel, it's a standalone film. It has a very unique idea. I don't know how they thought of a rat cooking by controlling a man's hair, yeah, and puppeteering him as a vessel to elevate his cooking. I don't know how they thought of that. Someone must have been on one when they wrote that. I felt like this movie had a lot of deeper themes and it thematically resonated with a lot more people than modern Pixar movies do. And I really appreciated that this movie wasn't afraid to be what it was and fully committed to it.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

I feel like movies nowadays have a concept but don't fully commit to it.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

And so I appreciated that this movie just went full tilt and was in the understanding that this is a movie about a rat cooking food.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

No, that's fair. I I definitely agree. I think a lot of movies today are trying to be too many things at once, serve too many purposes, or teach too many lessons. And this, you know, Ratatouille got the fundamentals right. It told basically one story, it had one major theme, and it did it in a lot of ways, but it wasn't trying to tell multiple stories, it wasn't trying to serve all sorts of types of audiences, it was just trying to serve audiences in general because it was really a universal truth. Yeah, absolutely. To the point about thematic differences, I think this movie, Ratatouille at least, flips social norms on their heads, but in a different way than Pixar movies do today. I think Pixar movies, at least like and and Toy Story 5 was pretty tame in a lot of ways. I think a lot of modern Pixar movies are, you know, fine, but they tend to be closer to flipping more controversial norms on their head. And it's kind of you know died down a little bit. But I think this movie flipped, I think a universal social norm on its head being, you know, rats in the kitchen and cooking. And I think it utilized that really well, you know, from a flipping a social norm. And it wasn't a way that, you know, would alienate any audiences by any means, because it's a rat in a kitchen. I mean, nobody cares about uh the political correctness of that, but it was a it was a way of making us rethink, and obviously nobody's gonna change their mind about rats being in kitchens, but it was an interesting way of really flipping the script on kind of a universal truth.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Yeah, and challenging the audience to not judge a book by its cover.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Yeah, without it being something that they couldn't trust the audience to not take too seriously. I mean, they trusted the audience, and I think that's what a lot of the Pixar movies and Disney movies today don't do is they don't trust the audiences to make you know logical, reasonable conclusions about the movie, especially in today's movies where there's so much exposition and they're actually trying to tell, like if this was made today, the rat would have been like, don't judge a book by its cover, everyone, and it would have just been sitting there talking and yapping about the themes instead of you know, in this movie, they painted the themes, they use the characters, they use their dialogue not to actually tell the story, but to paint the story. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Speaking of the story, one thing I wanted to call out about this film that I really appreciate is just how seamlessly it flows from scene to scene.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Specifically in the beginning when Remy goes to Gousteau's, figures out he can control Linguini. I didn't question the flow for a second, it was just very natural. Remy was trying to escape the kitchen after Linguini saw him cooking. Linguini puts the pot on him, and then Linguini is confronted by the chef. They realize the soup is really good. Linguini saves the rat. The rat tries to be in his shirt. Yeah. It just it flowed very well, and obviously I'm not doing it justice now, but I actually acknowledged the flow of the scenes while I was watching it and thought it was really well done.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

I definitely agree. It was almost like they had as if they were actually filming the movie in person, they were able to do continuous long shots. It was very well done in terms of trusting the audience to be able to, you know, get through that whole long shot and being able to and I don't know if they, you know, I don't know why they don't do that today as much.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Well it's because of attention spans due to short form media.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Oh yeah. Doom scrolling.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah, the average scene length has uh shrunk tremendously.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yeah. I wonder what the research is on that.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

Yeah, that'd be a good thing to dive into. We can bring that in.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

I'm sorry, everyone.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

I am too. I think speaking of scenes, I guess was that your favorite scene? Which scene? That scene? The scene you just mentioned?

SPEAKER_02 22:36

My favorite scene. Um, I have a couple favorite scenes. One of my favorite scenes is whenever they kidnap the health inspector. Yeah. I thought that was really funny. And then my favorite scene in the movie is whenever Linguini reveals Remy as the chef to the cook staff, and then they all leave. Yeah. I think that that scene made the movie and it brought everything together really beautifully. And it because Linguini could have just taken claim to fame the whole movie, but he did do a selfless thing and showed everyone that it was Remy.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Yeah, I I I agree. That whole the whole sequence um really elevated the emotion of the movie without I think trying too hard to get the audience to care. Like, I mean it it was doing it the right way. And I think that's what a lot of the old Pixar movies did. I think there were scenes in even Toy Story where it's talking about Toy Story 2 where it's painting Jesse's past. And that that piece is very emotional. Even the the little bit that it paints that, and in this one, you know, the the five minutes from painting Ego's background to then meeting Remy and then them kind of coming out of this and owning a business, you know, evoke a lot more emotion than modern movies do. For sure. That was really well done. Great ending.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

I think one of my favorite scenes was actually just before that when all the rats come in. Yeah. And they're the the sequencing of that where it's very cut and dry, where the rats, like a conveyor belt, they enter in into the washing machine, they come out. I even like when the health inspector came in and uh Remy's dad was like, Alpha team, go! Yeah, that was funny, man. And then they go through and they go in like batches out the washing machine, and he but one plot hole that I couldn't get over was how did the other rats know how to cook? I mean, Remy couldn't have just taught them all that easily.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Yeah, that was just plot convenience, yeah, for sure. I I want to point out another scene that I just remembered. Whenever Skinner gets Linguini drunk to reveal what he knows about the rats, that was really funny, and I definitely did not pick up on that as a child. Yeah. Linguini was straight up cooked.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Yeah.

unknown 25:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Skinner was Skinner was an interesting character. I like how they played into his shortness, like they put him on top of that the baking rack to try to get the hat off of Linguini, and they just I think they archetyped a angry French person, which was really funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

He was actually played by the actor that did Bilbo Baggins, Ian Holm.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 25:33

I didn't know that. That surprised me. Yeah. He did a very good voice.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Yeah. Speaking of actors, one thing I didn't catch when I was a kid was just the actors in the movie. Um, but Will Arnett plays Horse, the guy that kills people with his thumb. Oh. The thumb guy.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

I didn't realize that. Because they're all doing French accents. Yeah. Okay. Why isn't Linguini doing a French accent?

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Yeah, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Yeah. I was really caught off guard by that. And Anton Ego doesn't do a French accent either.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

But he has a British accent, so that makes more sense. Because England's right there. Yeah. But yeah, it didn't make sense that Linguini didn't because he had an American accent. He has an Italian name, and his mom was Italian.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

That was very odd. Yeah. Obviously, they're all speaking in English anyway. Also, the rats had American accents.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Yeah, apparently rats are just American.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

I guess so. But they originated in Europe, didn't they?

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Yeah. That's odd. It is odd. Yeah, they'll have to go back and rewrite that.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Some of the foreign titles are very funny for this movie. I was looking on Letterboxd while we were watching the movie. And let me just read you some of these titles. I don't know which countries these are for, but one of the titles is Delicious Ratatouille 3D. Remy's Delicious Restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Are these just what they what they call them? Yeah, these are the translation titles.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Ratatouille 3D. Were they all in 3D? I don't know. But Ratatouille Dobru Chut. I can't say most of these, but yeah, I thought that was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

That is funny. Did you see what which title was in in uh France? Um, no, I can't. It's hard to read these. Okay. Well, Jackson, getting to the end of the episode, what would you rate this movie?

SPEAKER_02 27:35

I'd probably rate it a four and a half out of five. Really? If not five. That's high praise. It is. I think it is one of my favorite animated movies. I watched it a lot as a kid. And now I've seen it a couple times as an adult. I just think a lot of things work for me in this movie. I love the soundtrack. I love the voice acting. The animation is older, but it's still really good. The story is really well written. I love the concept for the movie, and I think thematically it's really rich. So I would rank this probably top three Pixar movie as well.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Okay. What would you have in your other two?

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Yeah. I'd probably put Toy Story 1 or 2 up there. Okay. Um, I don't want them to take both slots. And then my second would be Monsters Inc. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that movie is that movie is that's one of my favorite animated movies for sure.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, they were cooking in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

They were. They were, and then I know I said only three, but Incredibles would be up there too. I mean, that movie's great. Another Brad Bird movie.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Yeah, did he do Incredibles too?

SPEAKER_02 28:52

He did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

I thought he did a pretty good job with that one too.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, it was a lot better than other modern Pixar movies.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

So yeah, and one thing to note on that, it had a central female protagonist, and I felt like it did it really well. Yeah. And that's a great example of it not overdoing or going in the opposite direction. It did it really well in terms of how they made Mrs. Incredible the protagonist.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Yeah, I think a lot of people see female movies fail. I mean, we just watch Supergirl flop at the box office.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

Yeah, we didn't watch it, but we saw the numbers.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Yeah. And a lot of people blame that on misogyny. But honestly, I just don't think those movies are well made or well written. Yeah. I mean, I thought The Incredibles 2 was a good movie, and that was female-led. Yeah. So I think the assignment of that label just isn't super fair whenever the movies we're getting with female leads just aren't good.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Yeah. Yeah. Supergirl failed on its own mare and failed because James Gunn owns the DCU.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Yeah. Yeah. James Gunn's just an interesting fellow.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

What'd you think about it, Luke?

SPEAKER_00 30:08

I think I'd rate it. I think I'd rate it a five.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

It does, and and I say that because it does all the fundamentals right of filmmaking, even across non-animated films. It has subtle themes throughout that aren't overdone. The soundtrack goes with the goes with the location setting. I think the way it integrated cuisine, integrated Paris, France, integrated family values, integrated, you know, rethinking your view of the world was both subtle and the most probably well done storytelling and lesson of any Disney movie I've seen. I think Toy Story, the original Toy Stories had some of the best actual lessons in them as well. Yeah. But this is up there.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

For sure. Yeah, we don't get movies like this much anymore. Yeah. At least from an animation perspective.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yeah. Well, everyone, that's all we have for today. Just like a great cook can come from anywhere, a great movie can come from anyone. Thank you.