.png)
Miss AI Podcast
I sit down with founders, builders, and fascinating people to talk honestly about how AI is shaping their world and what's coming next.
Miss AI Podcast
The AI Strategy That Gets 15 M Views
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
She Used AI to Go From 0 to 15 Million Views 🚀
Shinjini is a top 10 LinkedIn motivational speaker, CEO of Das Media Group,
and she's generates over 15 million views across all social platforms
every year.
In this episode, we dive into:
â–º How she uses ChatGPT to create platform-specific content
â–º The shift from "positivity" to targeting audience pain points
â–º Why knowing your one ideal follower changes everything
â–º How to make AI-generated content sound like YOUR voice
Shinjini shares raw, practical insights on building a personal brand
in the AI era, no tech jargon, just real talk.
🎯 Key Takeaway: "Whatever you want to do, are you in forward motion?"
Timestamps:
0:00 — Intro
1:30 — Shinjini's origin story
4:30 — First time on stage at 14
8:00 — What is a "go-getter"?
13:00 — Using AI to connect with audience pain
17:00 — Finding her audience & niche down
22:00 — Platform-specific content strategy
27:00 — AI-generated content vs authentic voice
👋 Follow Shinjini:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/speakershin...
X: https://x.com/SpeakerShinjini
LinkedIn: / shinjinidas
👋 Follow Miss AI:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realmissai/...
TikTok: / keiranesdale
X: https://x.com/RealMissAI
LinkedIn: / keira-nesdale-b287899b
#Podcast #AI #MotivationalSpeaker #PersonalBrand #AIForBusiness
#ContentStrategy #GoGetter #LinkedIn #XTwitter #SocialMediaGrowth
For me, what I am most proud of is just the impact that my presence is having in people's lives as I motivate them out of some very, very dark places. I was kind of selected as the middle school graduation speaker. So that was actually my first speech ever at 14. I try not to honestly look at too much around me. Now, part of the reason so many people connect with me is because it's real and it's not like from a book.
SPEAKER_00What's your opinion on bringing AI into sort of motivating people?
SPEAKER_01I actually use AI, specifically ChatGPT Kira, to come up with motivational sort of uh lines of content. How do you sort of a maintain the attention of everybody? Number one. Number two, how do I consistently create viral content? I actually think the last nine years have been the most difficult in media. 2009 to 2016. Not that crazy. 2016 to today, it's a different world.
SPEAKER_00Today's guest is a special one. Motivational speaker Shinjuni. She has acquired over 15 million views across all social media platforms and built up the DAS Media Group nine years ago, starting at the age of 24. She has since been named the top 10 motivational speakers to watch in 2020 by Yahoo Finance and voted one of 100 most influential creatives in 2019, alongside Rihanna and Warren Buffett. Listed as a top voice on LinkedIn, Shin Jinny is definitely one to watch, and I'm super excited to talk to her about building personal brand, being a motivational speaker across the whole entire world, and exactly how AI is fitting into her daily and professional lives this year. Shin Jinny, welcome to Miss AI Podcast. It is a pleasure to have you here. So welcome. How are you doing today?
SPEAKER_01I am doing well, Kira. I'm so happy to be with you. And you know, I think that we need to just keep supporting and empowering women to be go-getters.
SPEAKER_00Go-getters, absolutely. And that is the community that you are building at the moment. 15 million views across all your social medias has not just popped up overnight. So I would love today to for you to share your story around building that go-getter community, building your DAS Media Group. And let's just dive into your story, your journey behind the scenes, because you are an engineer and you are a motivational speaker from a very young age. At nine years old, you started, and you are now one of the top 10 motivational speakers across LinkedIn and many other platforms. We've spoken at the US Department, State, uh, national across the whole entire globe, and uh one of the most influential creatives within the whole entire space. So I would love to introduce you to our audience. If somebody met you at a dinner party tonight, how would you introduce yourself and like what would you say that you really do?
SPEAKER_01Honestly, I'm I'm proudest of the title cure and motivational speaker. Because if you look at the climate today, I mean, depression, you know, suicide, loneliness, I mean, everything is exploding. You know, people are genuinely more struggling than they ever have been. They are struggling in every area of their life, right? Love, life, relationships, career, health, mental health. So I'm the proudest of that title because I could say entrepreneur, I could say engineer, I could say, you know, television personality or whatever. But for me, what I am most proud of is just the impact that my presence is having in people's lives as I motivate them out of some very, very dark places.
SPEAKER_00How does somebody become a motivational speaker? Do you think that this was something that you were born with, or is it a skill that you just learned?
SPEAKER_01I honestly growing up, I always sort of admired motivational speakers because I also always sort of thought, you know, how did they become that way? You know, how can I, you know, do that? But really the answer is it's a mix of things. Obviously, a lot of us have always had some innate talent, some, you know, natural talent. I do think that's the case. And then I would say a lot of just life experiences where you did sort of just go through a lot. You know, I think every motivational speaker I know, including myself, sort of does have this exceptional backstory, which, you know, happened. Now, sometimes I feel maybe God, you know, did it for that this reason for you to, you know, use it to empower someone else. But it is a combination of natural talent as well as this sort of exceptional, unique backstory, plus a very strong desire to give back, to share with others, to help others up. You know, I've seen that trifecta pretty regularly. And, you know, when I was coming up, I mean, at 17 or or 15, I met the first motivational speaker I've I've ever met, right? And, you know, I think I was trying to piece it together, you know, that how do you sort of become this person and are you taught? And, you know, there, I mean, there's no school for this, right? And so it really is just a lot of practice, a lot of just, you know, putting in the reps, and you know, I would say a healthy amount of natural talent as well, and a desire to give back.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, do you remember the first time when you got up on stage in front of people? Was there a little bit of imposter syndrome or just absolute stage fright? Like standing in front of a crowd, delivering motivation, is there's a lot of pressure that comes with it. Like, how did you feel for the very first time? And how have you evolved now that you've been doing it for over 15 years?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, so the company is nine years old, but you're right. I started public speaking at about 14. So that number is true. Uh, and you know, I was kind of selected as the uh middle school graduation speaker. So that was actually my first speech ever at 14. And uh, you know, it was a great feeling, you know, even then, you know, I think kids were, you know, kind of scared about high school, and and uh at least in America, it's middle school, high school, and there were this like with lower secondary, upper secondary, something like that. Similar model, but you know, there there was a lot of fear going into high school at age 15. And, you know, I sort of, you know, gave a good energy that day, and I spread, I spread good vibes and you know, uplifted people. And so yeah, definitely that graduation day ended with everybody feeling good, uplifted, happy, positive, excited, you know. So I think I I felt really good about that impact, and I thought this is great. And then even then, like there was so much darkness, you know, in the world around me, and I feel like that has only sort of grown over the years, and so I think I'm I'm very, you know, energized by the process. Of course, it is a little bit scary.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, of course. Like, where do you like get your motivation from? Do you uh read books? Do you follow other mentors, or where do you, or is it just again life experience and you're sharing those um your journey through difficult stages because you motivate people around all sorts of things, career, career, professional development, relationships, life, love life, situationships, as you also call them, uh, financial advice, everything. So that's a lot. Um, but like you said, today in the world, everything is so busy and everybody is trying to achieve on so many different fronts that it does become overwhelming. So, like, where do you like find your own uh lessons and how do you pass it on to your community?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, I think I reflect a lot. I also think I'm very protective of myself because I do think I'm a natural talent. And I don't know if everybody sort of says that, but that's definitely how I feel about myself. And I think natural talents, if you if you basically try too hard and you know, you're always looking at others and all, you actually destroy like what's working really well, you know, because you know, like what why are children always so you know appealing? Because that's the pure form, and that's the natural form. You know, they're they're not corrupted, they're not adulterated, like that's they just say whatever they think. So, in many ways, I am like that, where I am very sort of this natural talent. So I try not to honestly look at too much around me. Now, I'm a big fan of speaking, I always have been. So any public speeches, absolutely. I'm happy to look at them. I'm happy to, you know, get inspiration from then the operas of the world, the Barack Obamas of the world, the, you know, any any speaker, like yes, I'm always watching, you know, but in terms of like, do I follow this other, you know, speaker? Not not so much, you know, because I think what I've built has been so organic and beautiful. And like part of the reason so many people connect with me is because it's real and it's not like from a book, you know. So I'm really trying to keep that energy as we grow. And then you're mine. I mean, you can be a go-getter in all areas of your life: love, relationships, life, how to sort of stop being in a situation ship, and and all of this. So it the mindset is applicable to everything.
SPEAKER_00Can you dive deeper to newbizer? What does it mean to be a go-getter? Like, what is that mindset?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's a good question. So it's someone who makes the first move to go get their goals. Now, I know it sounds very simple, but I'll be honest, most people are not actively, proactively sort of working towards their goals. They're not, you know, if you double-click on when someone says, I want to be an author, you know, they're they're not really writing, you know, they they they barely write, you know, and so I'm always sort of asking that how how do you expect to, you know, be an author if if you don't really write, you know, uh, so this idea that whatever you want to do, are you in forward motion? You know, are you actively going and getting it? So again, another line I use with my community often is are you going and getting it? You know, let's go get it. There's aggression and forward momentum involved in everything that I say, because I don't really see that as much, you know, uh, which is which is sort of ironic because you'd expect that, oh, is this not hard, you know, but but it actually is, you know, uh whether that's you know, I want to uh get a new job, great, where are you looking? What are you doing? Like the action piece is very often missing in my uh demographic, you know, which uh has surprised me, but here we are.
SPEAKER_00Getting started is definitely the hardest. I remember when I was first putting myself out there and uh I had to make my first video online, and it took me like five hours to make one terrible like video, and it was just starting, and now like 150 reels or videos later, it's I don't really think about it too much. So I can totally relate with that sort of mentality is like you just got to get started, stop thinking what everybody else uh thinking because probably they're not even looking, and you're just thinking that they're looking, but they're really not there involved or worried about their own life. So getting started is just the best thing that anybody can really do. And uh I've had my own challenges in in getting started, but once you do and get that traction, it's a there's a reward because it's everything that you've developed yourself. And uh actually, I want to ask you this one. So for the one of the very first times uh just last week, I spoke with AI around like my own goals, and uh I fed it, well, it's obviously knows a lot of information about me because I speak with AI on different uh platforms every single day, and uh so it knows my goals, it tells I I talk to it, I don't even type anymore. So I asked it, it's like what are things that I say that I want to do compared to what I am doing? What are the things that I am um why am I not gonna achieve my goals? I just asked these more personal questions and it was like low-key spot on. So I want to know uh like your experience with your community and having that mindset, like how does AI influence uh like your goals, your vision, and and how can it actually be used as a beneficial tool? Um and yeah, like what's your opinion on yeah, bringing AI into sort of motivating, uh motivating people to actually do what they want to do?
SPEAKER_01I'm in the business, Kira, of the motivation has to be real time. So it has to connect with what my go-getters are literally going through today. Right now, is this everybody? No, this is not how every motivational speaker or or you know inspiring sort of person thinks. Now, that's why I believe some of their content is a little bit out of touch, you know. Um, if you just look at their content, it maybe, you know, it's like on a yacht, you know, my audience is struggling, you know. Uh they're they're struggling to, you know, go to college, you know, get a job, you know, they're unemployed, you know, um, they're they are almost getting evicted from their you know house because they can't pay, they have a lot of money problems. So I can't necessarily show up that way, you know, on a yacht, on a this, on that, because that's that's not really inspiring to them, right? They're gonna say, okay, that's out of touch, you know, I'm not really relating. So I actually use AI, specifically ChatGPT Kira, to come up with motivational sort of uh uh lines of content. So I think what I have been struggling with now as my platform has grown to the level it has, and we are exponentially growing every day, right? And how how do you sort of a maintain the attention of everybody? Number one, right? Number two, how do I consistently create viral content around motivation, around believing in yourself, around, you know, never giving up? And I think something that I realized was I was posting a little bit too much positivity, but I wasn't targeting the pain, right? So in my head, I want you to be positive because there is a lot of pain that you are going through. That's why I want you to be positive. I think it was coming out as sort of smile more today, whereas the replies I'm getting are literally like, you know, I'm gonna be evicted today. I can't smile, right? And so now, you know, what I'm using Chat GPT for is can you give me lines of content around the struggle? So literally, my prompts, I say things like, can you give me viral tweets for speakers Shin Jini around um, you know, homelessness, around uh money problems, around um permanent, not permanent, consistent unemployment. I mean, I have people following me who've been unemployed for six months, for seven months. You know, not necessarily by choice, but that that just is what happened, right? So that has been a game changer. And now, you know, we're just the last three months, we've been consistently at 2.5 million views on X, which before that this I was sort of up and down. I was, you know, 2.5 and then 2 and then you know 1.9 and then 3, and then you know, but it's been it's been really consistent now for the last uh for the last three months because I'm engaging people where it hurts.
SPEAKER_00You said the views or being able to connect really um directly to your audience has allowed you to now grow exponentially. Like, how did you actually know your audience? How did you know and find them? Was it you looking at the data behind the scenes? Was it just you have been building this like journey along the whole entire way? Or did you start out to find this audience? Uh like how did that go from zero posting your very first post on X? Uh, what year was it? Like you've been posting on X for a really long time. I think that's where your personal brand sort of started to flourish and grow, and you found your audience, but then you've expanded into you know LinkedIn and Instagram and growing on YouTube. So you're expanding to all of these different platforms, which do have different audiences, and people go to these different platforms for different things. So, how did you find your audience and how do you tailor your content to these different platforms to make sure you're still hitting uh those pain points?
SPEAKER_01Totally, totally. No, this is a great question. Something that I've really been thinking about. Honestly, that transition here was going from sort of influencer to business. You know, when I started thinking about motivation as a business, and I'm very serious about building a business around motivation. So, what does that mean? Obviously, brand consultations, it means, you know, uh brand coaching, it means in the future group brand coaching. I've been doing a lot of one-on-ones, right? It means building up finally my digital product store, you know, the go-getter, you know, guide to perfect mindset in 30 days, or you know, positive mindset in 30 days, all of that. So I I I'm trying to build buyers, right? So I think that's what actually shifted everything for me, Kira, where I noticed that my audience is very heavily sort of young people from uh developing countries. That was a huge insight. I'm talking Latin America, India, a lot of countries in Africa, right? Um, so that was a huge uh driver, but also sort of this executive base, right? Uh in the US, uh, UK, Europe, America's, uh, Middle East, you know, because you also have to look at who's going to afford uh and and pay for brand coaching and building their brand, not necessarily unemployed youth, you know, as as much as you know, I think they need it, you know, um, they're not, they don't, you know, they can't do it. So that became the insight where where when I started thinking of this like a business, you know, because in the beginning, I'll be honest, yes, I I was looking for followers. You know the pain, you know, very, very deeply, which is you you need traffic, you know, and and it's very humbling to be posting all this content and to be looking at the screen and and to be seeing zeros all around. And you know, I've been there, and I think when I started tuning into who is really responding, this became the answer, right? And then and then I've built everything around this. So now, Kira, I'm at a point where I have clones of the same people, which is the most beautiful place for a media business to be, Kira, where that's actually because I I've I'm I'm also just a lifelong student, like you mentioned, engineer from Georgia Tech. So I've been studying Kira, any media company that is profitable, that is successful, there's literally one type of human being that follows them. And all their millions of followers, I promise you, are a clone of that one person. Like they all look the same, you know what I'm saying? They all look the same, sound that they have the same problems, maybe different colors, you know, maybe different ethnicities, maybe different ages, but it's the same core demo. And I think in the beginning I was kind of in denial. I was like, there's no way, you know, look at me. I have men, I have women, I have all these, but now I've really driven down to being like, no, like all the men who follow me have the same issue. All the women following me have the same issue. But yeah, maybe their gender is different, but at the core, they are they are the same, you know.
SPEAKER_00So I definitely know this. It was actually an idea that was taught to me by one of my mentors uh over a year ago now. And he said, have one buyer persona in your mind, and that person is at the center of everything, and always run every filter back through that one person. Who are they? What do they look like? How do they feel? What are they dressed as? Uh, what do they eat for breakfast? Everything. You just feed everything to that one person. And then, I mean, there's eight billion of us in the world, there's many people who have who had that similar biopersona. So if you niche down, focus on delivering uh help for this one person, it's really likely that that will just extend further. So to build on that, if somebody was to be wanting to start to grow online, and um, like you said, it's really hard because initially when you are starting out, first of all, put yourself out there. Like to get started is difficult, but then you don't get any positive reinforcement because you're just putting information out there, whether it's text, whether it's a blog, whether it's a video or a photograph, whatever it might be. You're putting yourself out there for judgment from like the internet, one of the most harshest places on earth. And uh nothing happens, and you need to consistently do it, and you're getting no positive reinforcement. There's no good feedback loop because, well, you might get lucky and it hits the algorithms or it hits the audience specifically on point on that first time. And if you do, fantastic. But it takes time to learn, to figure it out, and that just from me, my own experience, was just repetitions, consistency. And everybody says it, but it truly is. If I look back at my first uh pieces of content that I posted out, they're rubbish, but they're kind of it's like um a digital journal for myself. And I reflect back on that, I'm like, whoa. Uh well I no wonder nobody was watching this back then. But like so from you and I know that you've been online for a very long time growing and uh also now using AI to help you um amplify everything. What would you say to anybody out there who is wanting to start their own personal brand online?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, honestly, I think you have to know your niche. You know, one thing, you know, maybe it took me some time to nail my sort of audience, but I I never struggled with my niche here. I never struggled with who I am, you know. So even on LinkedIn, like I first got the account at 18, you know, and I started posting probably right when I started the business at about 24. You know, it like people still remember, you know, my posts from then because like I always knew, you know, who I am, what I'm what I'm here to do. And of course, it it it took a long time for the right people to find my content, for sure. For sure. I mean, a thousand percent, you know, and and that was my period of sort of speaking into a void for sure. Like I'm speaking into a like a like a like a wall. Um, and I and I definitely felt that way for a while, you know. But I don't think I struggled with like, you know, what I was saying.
SPEAKER_00Your message has been consistent, but just the delivery and finding getting those audiences to find you, that does take time. That's like the distribution methods. Um, so do you tailor uh your content differently for the different platforms? Because I find that you know LinkedIn is a little more professional, they like longer and um style posts, and then obviously Instagram is more and TikTok are kind of you know, short attention spans, entertainment, and YouTube is longer format. Like there's so many different algorithms that you're obviously having to play into. So, how do you specifically um modify your content to across the different platforms? And do you use AI to help you with that? Be like, hey, this is a LinkedIn post, hey, this is a X tweet, you know? Totally, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Again, you're catching me at a very uh sort of high growth phase. So it's not possible to do all of this organically anymore. It's not right now. I think what I'm really good at now is the message is very, very tight. It's about how to be a go-getter, it's about building your brand, it's about personal branding. Literally, if you follow me anywhere, that's all I'm talking about, you know. And I think that that was a huge shift where I went from sort of talking about everything to now, you know, because I'm operating like a business. And when later this year I come out with, you know, build your, you know, um fashion style like a go-getter, whatever, and I want to sell that, you know, digital downloadable, I it it it needs to sell, right? And so then people will say, oh my gosh, you know, she's given us advice and video about how to dress, and oh, she's told us to wear brighter colors and you know, all this stuff to be more positive. So now like my content structure is extremely, is extremely structured. And so I'm doing that all day, Kira. I'm on Chat GPT all day saying, give me a video script uh about you know, uh encouraging my go-getters to wear brighter colors so that they have a more positive mindset, you know, or or give me a video script for Snapchat. And I'm even going as specific as give me a video script for Snapchat versus YouTube versus X versus. So absolutely, it is it is platform-centric in that way. I think the message is the message, no matter where you follow me, which I'm again very, very proud of. But yes, it is customized to the platform because I know that I need to sell to the platform. Just as with X, for example, you will see that I do sort of this nonstop, you know, barrage of motivational tweets because that's what people want. You know, it's it's not a huge video platform, it's not a huge, like just law. It's I mean, let me put it this way. I know they're stressing long form now, but people are on there just for quick bites, you know, they're not necessarily on there for to read essays, even though X is telling me that you know they're investing in long form content and they're in, you know. So I'm doing a little bit of that, but for the most part, like just they want a quick motivational quote, really, is what they want, you know.
SPEAKER_00Um if you're delivering value, and I think that's the most important point, like, you know, whether they're looking for help, inspiration, or whatever it might be, as long as they're getting value from the video or the tweet or the comment or whatever it might be, I think that's what really matters. Because uh a comment that I sometimes get from people is you know AI generated content versus you know something that you've just randomly thought of with spelling mistakes all through it. And I think that it doesn't matter as long as it provides value, whether it's AI generated, whether it's a video or a human or whatever it might be, um, as long as somebody is enjoying it, getting entertained, being educated, or being motivated or inspired by it, I think those are the three uh things that everything on the internet should be doing. So, what's your opinion on that? Like, is AI-generated content slot or does it still provide value?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I, you know, and when you and I spoke for the first time, we touched upon this a little bit. Now, me as a personal brand, Kira, I will say that I'm very aware that even though I'm using ChatGPT a lot, specifically ChatGPT, it needs to sound in my voice. So I'll say things like create viral tweets in the voice of speaker Shin Jinny. You know, so thankfully, I have personally never received anything so far saying, oh, you know, this is not you. Because because everything is living on my platforms with my handle, I am a little bit wary of, you know, sounding um, you know, completely AI, you know, I because I I it it will affect me negatively because people follow me for a little bit of that emotional support and you know, knowing that I'm a person. So it needs to sound like a human being, but to keep up with the kind of scale that I have to keep up with now, I I can't do it alone. So I personally am walking a line, but I'm always making sure that it uh sounds like me, it looks like me, you know. Uh, so I think for any personal brands out there, you know, listening, that's probably the way to go.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. I think personal brand is one of the most valuable things that anybody can be doing right now in today's marketing age. I mean, you started up a media company at the age of 23, 24, and the fast forward now, the whole entire way that online digital marketing must have changed throughout your um professional career there. I want to dive deeper into that. Like, how have you navigated this change now that AI is becoming more uh influential in the market? And uh, like how is marketing different? Like, how do you win attention today uh around the world globally to your audience? Um, because I can imagine it's changed so much back from I guess when people were looking at newspapers or looking at billboards. Like, is that still a thing? Is that still in media marketing, or like are we just all online now? Because that's where Generation Z is hanging out. And um, like, how how do you see the marketing world uh moving forward? And how do you compare it to when you started your digital agency uh back was it about nine years ago? Yeah, 2016.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. And and I want to add another note because and I think this this helps me sort of metabolize the struggle because I actually think the last nine years have been the most difficult in media. Would you okay, because I don't think we've seen so much change before. Yeah, as I was thinking, it's constantly changing, absolutely. Well, because 2000 and like 2000 to 2000 and excuse me, 2009 to 2016, or maybe even 2007 to 2016, not that crazy, you know, kind of same same, same. You know, I I remember growing up, you know, I remember I got my you know Facebook account at 17, uh, which was you know, which was 2009, right? And then so 20, 2009 to 2016, even me growing up, like it was kind of, you know, whatever. 2016 to today, I mean, it's it's a different world. Do you do you agree with that?
SPEAKER_00I mean I agree, and I think that why we have seen this change is because the access to technology has um been reduced. That means that so many more people are are able to create instantaneously, and the friction or the barrier to actually producing a video, taking a photo has drastically decreased. And then also the ways to distribute that has drastically become a lot easier because of social media. And so everybody now has a phone, and the cost of a phone, I mean, when I was growing up, it was just a it was black and white kind of phone, and you played the snake game on it, that was all it had. Fast forward to today, everybody has got one that has videos, camera, internet, you know, you name it as a little mini computer that everyone has in their pocket. So that ability to capture instantaneous um, you know, whatever's going on in the real world and share that and distribute that, I think that's why it has changed so rapidly, uh, just because of the ease of access.
SPEAKER_01Totally. No, totally you you've nailed it. And also like when I first started everything, Kira, it's I really thought I was like, you know, I have to um, you know, speak, I have to get the opportunity to speak, I had to, I have to, you know, yeah, you know, be in a newspaper. Like that's where my head was in 2016. You know, I gotta reach, you know, these people who I can motivate. Oh, and I gotta, you know, lecture five different ways. I think only recently did it hit me that way, everything has changed. All the goals that I set in 2016 no longer stand. I don't have to beg four different people to speak on their platform. I can build an audience on Instagram of go-getters who love me, respect. I was just thinking about this today that, you know, I can build a client pool of men, you know, mostly men who want to build their brands, who want to be, you know, executives and all this stuff, who who love me, respect me, pay me. Um, and I can build my own bubble and and actually build a very profitable brand consulting practice. And by the way, maintain my own peace. You know, I'll be honest, the first few years of my business, there was a lot of like chasing. You know, I was kind of going after the speaking agency. I'm like, oh, I gotta be a part of a speaking agency because part of it was also just me. I thought that's what I had to do. You know, I have to, you know, be a part of a speaking agency, whatever. AI and just this ownership model of media has changed everything to where honestly it took me some time to catch up to the change where now I'm like, no, it's your Instagram, you know, your um, you know, X, your this, uh, and then also um, you know, your email list, your text list, you know, and then I can roam around with, you know, 10,000 people on my text list where I can, you know, yeah, send them notes about our new go-getter merge drop and this and that. It really, it's crazy how even though I was so young when I started, it actually took me a long time to wrap my head around that. Because, you know, when I started at 24, I thought, oh, well, you know, who's gonna, you know, release my you know, merchandise? Because that was what happened then. You have to partner with a, you know, that I never thought like I can just drop my own hoodies, you know, and I can drop my own, you know, because I mean, so much power. First of all, none of us are used to it. Second of all, you know, I was a very young woman. I it it just seemed so crazy where I'm like, I can just do that. And and then a few years ago, it became sort of a business hazard to where I realized that, oh my God, this is the only way for me now. The only way for me to make it in the way that I want to make it is to, you know, blow up my Instagram and blow up my ex and blow up my, you know, YouTube and get ad revenue and make merchandise. Like I actually like I did not realize, Kira, that I have to do all this on my own. I really thought like I would have, you know, partners and this and this person telling me what to do. But the rise of AI and this sort of media ownership model has made it to where good or bad, you know, because it's not easy, Kira. Like, I think God put me on this path, but I I really didn't know that like I have to do everything myself, you know? Like I have to send invoices, I have to like this level of independence. I'll be honest, I don't know if I was looking for that, you know?
SPEAKER_00I can relate on all of that, but with that great level of independence, the journey of learning and figuring it out and also stuffing it up, um, all of that comes with great growth and a lot of lessons that only you can learn. And because you've gone through that struggle, you've learned those, that allows you to be a much better coach to other people who you're able to come on and nurture because you've been there, you've been in their shoes, you don't just farm it out to another agency and just was have been like the the front of the attention, right? It's um because you have done this for many years and you started with, you know, just figuring it out, then I believe that you are less likely to have some of those imposter syndromes when somebody is saying, Hey, like I'm just doing this, you're like, No, I've been there, I've experienced this, and this is how I did it. This is what I did to get get better, move forward. So, like all of that, like, yeah, I agree. It is hard because I'm also a one-man band, uh, trying to do it all. Um, podcasting, posting on Twitter, learning, educating, trying to be social. Like it's a lot on on anyone's plate. So and it's about that balance. But I think if you can see that vision uh and you really want to chase after it, there's like there's nothing better in the world than actually going after your own dreams. And uh I think your dream and it does shift and change depending on like your your current little mindset. And sometimes I know for me, I definitely do burn myself out. I burn the candle at both ends, uh, early mornings, late nights for sure. Um, but I'm like so hungry with it right now. And I'm actually being more specific with my time. And I realize that life is short, uh, time is a currency, and every decision that I make today will affect my future. So I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing to become a little bit more transactional with my time, but like I don't know whether you found that when you're like focusing on building a business, do you become more specific in who you're having conversations with, uh what you're doing, and how you are investing your time to make sure that you're actually working on your own goals and not somebody else's agenda?
SPEAKER_01Totally. No, I mean, and you're asking this at the perfect time because I am so, you know, um focused on scale right now. You know, it is about, you know, what do I want to do and what am I prioritizing and what am I doing? Because yeah, if you don't do that, I think you will get easily put into somebody else's agenda, you know. And now, you know, think about it. I think you, me, so many, especially women founders, we started what we started for our own sense of autonomy, right? So one of the, you know, my pet peeves is that I'm really not trying to be controlled by men, you know, or or whoever, you know, wants me to do whatever, right? And so I think it is sort of this flip-flipping the script of like this is what I want to do, and this is what we're prioritizing. And if you are not aligned with that, then you know, I can't really entertain you right now. And absolutely, I'm very open about having those conversations and replying in that way, which is hey, you know, I'm not meeting anybody that's not a prospective client. Because, like at this stage, I got a lot of like, oh, can we catch up? Can we do coffee? I'm like, absolutely not, you know. Uh, you know, uh, because I mean that's just not, you know, now if I if I uh put out a meetup, you know, I'll be like, I'll meet up in London, meet up in this, and and at that point everything will be ticketed. You want to come have coffee with me at the meetup, you know, as you buy the ticket? Yes, I will do that. Not before, right? So absolutely, absolutely. I mean, I'm doing that all day now. You know, when somebody's like, oh, can we do this? Can we meet? And it's like in our role now, you and I, where you are sort of public uh online, people do feel, you know, this sort of accessibility to you where you know they're like, oh, she's on you know, LinkedIn, she's on X, she's on TikTok, oh, she's so nice. Yeah, I'll meet, I'll meet, you know, when we're in, you know, New York. No, I no, you know, so you mentioned something interesting.
SPEAKER_00I want to dive a little bit deeper. And okay, I've been okay. There's a lot of relatability between us both. We're both engineers, and engineering, whatever field, if it's mechatronics, uh chemical engineering, industrial engineering. Engineering is typically a male dominant dominated industry. Uh, and so are like the big tech. I also work in tech and AI and blockchain and everything, always very, very male dominated. And it wasn't unusual for me, or isn't unusual for me, to be the only female or very few females in a massive conference room and um delivering your message, right? And so, how have you navigated that? You mentioned a lot of your audience are males, and how do you navigate um that line between like actually it definitely does get blurred and it kind of gets overwhelming because it's so many people. Uh I don't I don't know exactly how to uh say this, but it's like I'm sorry, I'm here to do business with you, and I'm here to educate, and I'm not here to date you. Like, you must get this. And I'm like, I I want to know just for for any other females out there who are or anybody, even if you're a male working in a uh like a sex-dominated, like a gender-dominated industry, like how have you navigated that to maintain a certain level of professionalism and to keep yourself level-headed and to yeah, not get let down, sort of like this crazy swarm of people like constantly wanting attention.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, no, really good question. And I'm so happy you're asking this because people forget that I'm nine years in now. Um, because they meet me, they're like, oh my god, you look 18, but I'm like, you know, like for me to have come up the way I have, it hasn't been easy here, you know, because there is a lot of that, you know, there is a lot of like, oh, you know, let's do coffee, let's do this. And you know, in the beginning, when you are a young woman, your boundaries are not as strong for most of us, not all. Again, Gen Z, I'm already noticing, you know, some of them are very strong already at 23, 22. I definitely was, but there were some areas that could have been strengthened more, you know, and like me in retrospect, I wouldn't have given out my number, you know, to them. Um, because I I don't think for business, you need my number. You have my email, you have my LinkedIn. I don't think you need my personal number, right? So I would say things like that, I would sort of redo. But it is, yeah, it is this idea of I'm on a pedestal, you know, I am running a business. This is not for you. And I also think, you know, young women should know that the more you sort of give him, uh, the the less positioning you have, you know, the less you sort of uh well, the less he takes you seriously, and really like your your positioning goes down, you know. So I think day one, what I did a really good job of of like never getting too familiar with anyone. Um having said that, you know, I'm also aware that this is kind of my workplace, similar to you. So, you know, if genuinely there is someone that you connect with, not like a client, but you know, similar world or whatever, and and you guys want to date each other, then you know, make sure it's consensual and do that. You know, I'm I'm like I would love to find somebody in this space, you know, like I'm I'm very honest about that. So if the opportunity comes that, you know, it's it's a respectful alignment of energies, yeah. I'm all for that for anybody listening, you know, advice to other women, you know, because part of like women like us, we want guys like this, right? But for me, it's it has to be the right context and the right sort of energy, right? And I think that you're right. In the beginning, people want your energy maybe for their own gain, really, right? So I think for me it's about boundaries, it's about, you know, um it's about structure, you know. So I I can't just meet you. I mean, I don't even know you, right? So I think people have to earn your respect, earn your time, you know. Um, and feel free to say things like, you know, I actually started creating rules probably about a few years ago, Kira. So I'll say things like I don't meet, you know, anybody who's not a client for coffee. You know, I don't meet anyone who's not a media sponsor. Now we're starting this really big sponsorship. Feature, Kira, where across all my platforms, it's like go-getter spotlight, you know, men's feature. So I'm featuring a whole bunch of men, you know, who I think are go-getters, and we're functioning it like advertising. Now, if some of those men who have already paid are like, hey, I'm coming into Atlanta next week, absolutely, I would meet them, right? Because they have shown me respect by paying, you know, in my business, by being a client, by being respectful. So I also think it's all about context and it's all about, you know, boundaries and and you know, your standards. But no, absolutely. I mean, as a woman, you have to guard your positioning. You you cannot be so uh open. You're right. I mean, you can't be so, you can't be so available. You can't, you know, and I have liberally rejected a lot of you know invites and whatever, because it's not aligned. It's not aligned, it's not respectful, it's not, you know, so you know, I I think you have to um stop feeling bad about that.
SPEAKER_00I think it's also our superpower, though, as well, right? You know, um, and the way that I trk about it is, I mean, I so I work with a lot of startups, right? And um startups are building with the most innovative tech that there is out there, infrastructure, privacy, AI, blockchain, you name it, they're probably building with it. But I remind all of these founders that hey, you're actually building for the world, right? You want the whole entire world to use your product, whatever it might be. And they're yes. I'm like, well, you're actually, there's two of us out there. There's the male and the female. So you need to be building for both. You need to be thinking about both. So this is where I think that perhaps also in your own, uh, your own superpower and motivating people, uh, you can look at them from a different perspective. If a lot of your audience are men, and you can like give them a war-rounded or just a different set of eyes that can, you know, hey, have you thought about it in this way? Hey, this is actually how half of the population actually perceive motivation, or this is how like the the message should be delivered if you actually want to capture a wider audience, or like you kind of can offer like a wider perspective for some people. Um, and that's why I think it was also a little bit of a superpower.
SPEAKER_01Totally, absolutely, absolutely, and likewise, you know, men provide perspectives that we don't have, and so yeah, no, I think we're sort of um a fit together.
SPEAKER_00So, in your whole entire journey, consistently showing up, grinding, earning trust, working, figuring it out. Is there some sort of like for your own discipline, uh, your own routine? Like, how what does the day in the life of you look like in building your own brand and motivating people around the world? Like, what does that look like? Do you have to stick to a routine? Are you like a 4 a.m. kind of person? Do you go to the gym? Do you like how do you do it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. Now, I will say I'm a very like flowing person now, Kira. Like, I love you know, flowing, I love energy, I want to be happy, I want to protect my peace. You know, at any time, if I feel like those two things are getting screwed over, uh I will stop everything. Because think about it. We have made so many sacrifices, Kira, to start something, no matter what who you are, side hustle, main hustle. You know, for me, I, you know, had a full-time job, you know, for a while, and then I pivoted and also I I I've sacrificed a lot to be here. Now the last yes, yes, at Deloitte, and even a second one at a digital marketing company. So after all of that, the last thing I want is to do what I want to do and and then be miserable, right? So I'm very protective of just my energy. So, no, to answer your question, if anything, I lean more towards night owl. Uh, but I'm trying to not, you know, because like 2 a.m., 3 a.m., I actually feel sick now, you know, if I sleep, you know, at the at those because, well, because I'm so busy during the day that I'm like, you know, you're so busy, and then you're up till 3 a.m. and now you're just exhausted. You know, you wake up the next day, even if I wake up at 11, because you know, I can control when my meetings are and everything. Uh, so you know, I'll wake up at 11, but I'll still be exhausted. So I am trying to as close as possible sleep by midnight. So that that, you know, but and then wake up at nine, I mean, I need nine hours. I need nine hours because again, every day is so hectic. And I think I I said this to someone and she kind of validated me where she said, You are creating everything from scratch, right? So it's all the content, all the this. So by the end of the day, I'm so tired. And um now I know why, because any like birthing process, any creation process is very exhausting. Now, am I saying that doctors don't work hard? Of course they do, but I don't know if they're creating all day. You know what I'm saying? Um, which is a very different level of mental exhaustion. So, all this to say I need nine hours of sleep, it is what it is, and so I I always sleep enough. And then Jim, because I'm pretty much on a work-from-home business, everything I do is at home. So I've built kind of a uh fitness routine at home. So I'm watching a lot of YouTube videos, all these incredible women, you know, it's like the Pilates and this and that is like all from home, you know, no equipment workouts, like all that kind of stuff. I love because I can actually do it and I can actually make time to do it because literally, like I'm on all of my gazillion platforms a day. You know, now there are days where obviously I'm leaving for meetings or I'm out the whole day or whatever, but that's not every day at all. So like today was a full work from home day. Um Monday, I was out a little bit, you know. Um, so it just depends. But I I'm at a stage where all the content that we need to create, all the I have to be home some days. And even when we're bigger, even when I have a bigger team or whatever, I still see that as being the model because I'm not someone who can just be all over the place all the time. You know, I know that that's very glamorized, you'll work from anywhere and just you know, be on the beach all day. But you know, being on the beach all day, like in my head, I I I need to manage all the platforms, even if I'm not producing the content for those platforms. I need to know everything that's happening and you know what I so um and also like I'm just I'm a structured person. Like my idea of a good time is not, you know, working from the beach all day. Some people's is, and I know that, you know. Actually, my idea of a good time is being at the beach, being in the room, doing the work, going to the beach, having fun, going back to the room. That's actually my idea of a good time. Because if I'm on the beach all day, I'm gonna get like do disillusioned. Like, what am I doing? What am I because everything I do is online, right? And so I I need to see it. I need to, so if I'm on the beach all day, I I'm I'm I'm gonna get a little nervous.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I get that. I was uh living a remote uh nomadic lifestyle for three and a half years, only ever bought a one-way ticket and uh constantly in a new place, new environment. Uh, as long as there was internet connection, I was good to go. Essentially what I was working on. But it's only recently that, well this year, that I've come home to New Zealand and actually have an office. Oh my god, it's so good. Like it's so good to have like a familiar environment. Um I work from home also with people all around the world building tech startups. And uh so I'm talking and communicating with people, but I also have every day, you know, four o'clock, I go for a run. Then I go to the sauna, and then that's like my little my my me time. Uh the 1% of the day that I get 100% just for me. And I think that's really valuable uh to think about my own ideas, remind myself not to get burnt out and everything. So because one thing when you're building online, uh you mentioned it earlier on is viewership. And um views, I mean, perhaps you've moved on from that, um, but it can become all a little bit consuming, you know? Why am I down a million? Why am I down 1000 or 100 or whatever it might be, chasing that viewership? And when we first met, you mentioned that you have switched your sort of mindset away from chasing viewership to more like building reputation. So, how have you navigated that change? Has it been almost a little bit more freeing for you? So you're a little bit more expressive of your own ideas and stuff and not really worrying and just like I'm gonna put more of me into it and hey, it's probably actually working better.
SPEAKER_01Totally. Well, also I think that once you because you need the numbers, right? So again, you're very academic, you know that to get into uni, you know, you need a certain grades, and it you're not gonna get in, you know, without that. So I'm very aware of what those grades are for me uh now, you know, and and we're hitting them here without you know going into details, you know, on LinkedIn just last week we did almost 15,000 views. Enough. Uh now, should it be 40,000? Sure. I mean, if I can do that, you know, I'd be grateful. But I would say that I'm at a good you know threshold. You know, 15,000 is very respectable, uh, 20,000 is very respectable. So for me, like that's my A, A grade, or is it A levels? You know, that's my A level. So I don't, I don't need an A plus level because after the A level, it's that today, for example, one of the men that I want to feature as a go-getter spotlight, you know, he said that he remembers about my grandfather. I posted about my grandfather years ago now. So that means he's been, you know, I didn't know that. I didn't know that he's been following me for years. Um, I just saw him, you know, pop up on my screen and I was like, I want to feature you as a man who I believe is, you know, building you know good things and good inspiration to other men. And uh he's like, you know, I remember your grandfather. So I posted that years ago, you know. Um to me now that's what I value because I I'm already at my A level. Okay, is it A plus? Oh, I don't know, maybe it's not, but it's it's good enough. There you go. It's good enough, right? And so then after that, I don't need I don't need 50,000 views, you know. Um but again, if I get that, you know, I'm grateful. But where I'm at is good enough. And then likewise with X, for example, they monetize you at 5 million views in the last three months, right? Now, in a year, we are doing sort of you know 10 plus, 10 to 15, give or take. Um, but right now I'm at 2.5 for the last three months, which is a very solid half. Now, obviously, I know that you know it should be five, and I'm you know getting there, but like I would say 2.5 is very respectable, you know, and and that too, it is consistent, it's not like 2.5 and then one and then three, and then it's like literally stable at 2.5. So like it's good enough, you know. Um, because I'm I'm not delusional. I I know that you need certain grades, you know, you need a certain salary to live, you know. So I'm trying to hit that, you know. But after I hit that, I'm not I'm no longer obsessed if if that answers your question. So basically, I have this minimum threshold, which to be honest, I'm hitting everywhere, right? And then and then I have sort of this legacy, and I want to change lives. And you know, I just I spoke with a go-getter on Monday, she's up autism, and you know, we're trying to do a live stream on um how you know companies should hire you know autistic, you know, go-getters, and and that they deserve opportunities too. And so like to me, that's a very like high-level purpose and and mission. And I don't like she already loves me, you know, she's already like following me for so many years, and so I don't need more numbers for sure.
SPEAKER_00And I love that building that audience, it comes back down to those guys that have been with you for a long time. That's your 1000 true fans, and those are the guys that are always gonna show up for you, and they're showing up for you because you showed up for them. And I think that's what is really beautiful, and the fact that they're coming along, they know you, that they know your family, they know they know what to expect from you, and uh they they're the ones that keep you um motivated yourself. I find that myself sometimes when I'm posting something out there and I don't get anything, but I get one person. Just one person says, I've been here for a long time, I really like your thing, I I really got a little bit of energy from this post, or I like this. That's all it takes. One person. I don't need to change 50,000 lives, but when you boil it back down to actually being able to make a change in one single person's life every single day, uh, I think that's what really hits home for me. And I know that I'm talking about AI and tech stuff and whatever it might be, but I try to make it, try to make it raw and organic. It's always just me, never scripted just on my phone or like recording through a camera, whatever it might be. But it's just that's what I like about it. I think that's also what people are craving at the moment is that raw, organic relatability. Um, I mean, especially in the tech industry, AI is yeah, it's out of control. Let's be honest. But it's um it's also something that's gonna be in our lives for a very long time. It's here to stay, and it's changing how we operate, it's changing how we think, it's changing our relationships, it's changing so much, so fast, and that's why people get nervous and anxious about it. But my message that I'm trying to show to people is hey, I'm just a girl uh in the room, just figuring it out as much as you guys, and I try to normalize that learning curve and to share as much as I possibly can, uh, because I think it's important. And uh it's important to not be scared of it, have a try, have a try, uh, learn it, adopt it. And it doesn't need to be everything, but it it's like when the internet came online or when social media came online. Uh, the analogy that I make back to people is, you know, back in the dot-com boom, if your internet or business was not on online, how do people find you? You know, they had to go into the yellow pages or the white pages and call you up. And then fast forward to you know, 2010, when we had like social media booming, it's like, okay, businesses shifted to be more social and more dynamic. And if you're no longer on social media, how can somebody, how can b how can people find you? And then again, fast forward again, it's just now changed a little bit. Again, so if you're not using AI with inside your own business models, like how are you going to compete against people that are using AI? So that's like the shift in technology that I try to translate to people is like, get on board is here, and um, you know, I'm just trying to figure it out as much as you are. I might be a few steps ahead of you, and that's why, you know, I I'm trying to share, uh, which I think is is really cool around all of it. I'm sure you found uh very similar cases in your own business development, right? Totally.
SPEAKER_01And also I think for you, it's a woman or a young woman talking about AI. I mean, that's not very common at all. And I think that you would be helping a lot of other, you know, young women, uh, especially who don't see themselves in AI, who don't, you know, feel like this world is for them, you know. And I think part of the reason why I I was so excited about you is that, right? And I wanted to be because there's not a lot of you doing this, right? So, you know, you were saying, like, if just one person says, you know, uh, you are sort of changing my life, but I think that's a that's a big one, is just other young women sort of looking at you doing what you do.
SPEAKER_00I hope I can be that for as many other females and males in the industry because I I love it. I I can't get enough of it every single day, you playing with AI, learning new tools, understanding it. I I I'm a I'm an academic, so I study a lot, you know, head and paper all the time is what I'm doing, and uh just trying to stay ahead of it. So, but yeah, anyway, I I want to wrap this one here up with one uh final question that I'm asking all of my guests here, and it's uh again on the topic of AI, my love. But uh like AI is changing so many aspects of our lives, and what is one thing that you hope that AI never replaces in humanity?
SPEAKER_01I just think the emotional support that many creators provide their audience, Kira, and I know that influencer marketing, and oh, you know, you're an influencer, it gets a lot of hate. But I just want to say that, you know, in my case, people following me who I call go-getters around the world, uh, many of them, Kira, don't have a positive voice in their lives, you know, in their immediate lives, in their place of work, you know, their mom has depression, dad, I mean, it's just kind of a hot mess. You know, so for them, I mean, I am very important and relevant because I'm bringing light to a place that just doesn't have light. And again, I know that my industry gets a lot of hate and it gets a lot of like, oh, what's the point? Oh, online, you know, personality and you know, um, you know, influencer or whatever. But, you know, I just want to highlight that I'm an example, motivational speaker. There are many others, but there are many of us who are providing genuine value in a way that would shock, I mean, it shocks me anytime, like just this young woman with autism. She's like, you inspire me so much. She's like, I don't have anyone, you know, and so when you hear things like that, digital media being as accessible as it is, you know, and oh, by the way, everyone has Instagram, I'm just very passionate about that, that I can now reach, you know, go-getters in rural cities, uh areas, you know, because of their access to maybe even AI, you know, and and Instagram. And so I just want people to, you know, consider that along with the potentially negative impacts that they feel AI has or or that social media has, you know, I just want you to also look at some of the positives, which is a lot of young people are finding genuine motivation, genuine positivity in my content. And again, I specialize in youth demographics, which don't typically have access to that. I'm talking Nigeria, you know, other countries in Africa, India, you know, where there's just a lot of darkness uh among especially the youth. And so again, I know that sometimes, you know, this social media gets a bad rap. It gets a bad rap, you know. Um, but you know, it's been very heartwarming to me to see that, you know, I'm I really am changing lives every day with you know my motivation and hey, you can be a go-getter. And so now she's like, she wrote a book, you know, this young woman with autism wrote a book, and you know, she wants me to help her promote the book, and you know, she's like, I'm being a go-getter every day. And to think that this is a person that doesn't necessarily have a lot of positive energy in her life, you know, and it's something that it's easy for me to say, oh, create it. But you know that if you're not in a position to create positive energy, like where are you gonna get it from? You know, I mean, if you have a bunch of mental health problems, you know, your family is struggling, you know, um, it's easy for me to say, oh, just you know, just create it, you know. But maybe that's privilege, right? And and maybe some other people following me, they they just don't have that capacity, you know, or their dad is in jail. I mean, I I just I have a lot of you know, just troubled youth following me, and and uh, you know, um, I think high-risk youth is the is the word, you know, and uh I'm just very grateful that I'm able to reach them through this free you know medium that sometimes gets a bad rep, you know, similar to AI. And again, I can use AI to build the content that keeps them motivated. So I just want everybody to consider the positives of both AI as well as you know social media, because sometimes I feel that anytime I tell people, you know, what I do, there is a little bit of like, oh my god, oh my really again, you know, influencer, you know, influencer marketing. And I'm like, no, you guys, like I'm changing lives, you know.
SPEAKER_00You are touching so many lives all around the world, which I think is so unique, not just specifically focusing on America because that's where you're based. It's like, no, there's nine or I think it's nearly nine billion of us around the world now, and and with so many different backgrounds, so many living situations, uh, no one person is exactly the same. So to be spreading a message globally, I think that's so beautiful. Uh, where can people join the Go Get Us community and follow along uh to get a little bit of motivation from you?
SPEAKER_01Totally. So find me at Speaker Shin Jini, which is S-P-E-A-K-E-R-S-H-I-N-J-I-N-I on all social media platforms. You know, follow me on LinkedIn. I would love to motivate you to make that first move to go get your goals here in 2026, but also to help you with your mindset. You know, so many of us, that is what's holding us back. We're not able to be positive because there is some limiting belief holding us back, or or or we forgot about the joy. You know, we're too fixated on the pain, you know. So, yeah, follow me and I'll get you, I'll get you straight. I'll get you thinking like a go-getter so that you can go get all your goals. And uh, a lot of very exciting stuff coming up this year. We're working a lot with one on one brand coaching. So a lot of go getters who need help personalize LinkedIn or their you know, social media or just their public. Speaking, you know, coaching, but I I do want to roll out root programs later this year. I want to roll out more digital motivational products. Like I want motivation at every uh price tier, basically. You know, accessible for everyone. So yeah, my audience is so diverse.
SPEAKER_00Well, thank you so much. And there you go. I will make sure to drop your details down in the description so anybody can find you very easily. But yeah, thank you again. Uh it's been a lot of fun. A lot of conflict topics have been covered, and um, yeah, pleasure to connect with you.
SPEAKER_01You too.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much.