Overcommitted and Underqualified

Episode 4, Part 1: The Stories That Made Us

• Keech & Jaeger • Season 1 • Episode 4

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Buying a car. Family history. One of the hardest stories Keech has ever shared.

This week, Jaeger tells the story of buying a car in the most unexpected way, Keech opens up about William’s birth and the journey that shaped her as a mom, and somehow we end up deep in our family trees wondering how we all got here.

We laugh, we get emotional, and—as always—we end up somewhere we never expected.

This is Part 1.

SPEAKER_01

All right, so welcome back to Overcommitted and Underqualified. Before we jump into our episode here today, we just want to thank everybody for following along with us so far for our first couple of episodes. Yes, it has been. And it's like really helping us to put ourselves out there more and more. Obviously, we have a lot of growth and work to do with all of this, and we've gotten some feedback, which we love. We see it ourselves too. But we're having a lot of fun with this. So we're super grateful for everybody who's been supporting us and spending a little bit of your day with us. If you are enjoying it, or even if you're not enjoying it, make sure to follow along. Follow our Instagram, overcommitted and underqualified. Like, comment, post, repost. It all helps. Engage with us and subscribe on YouTube too. We're on all the places you can listen to or watch podcasts. We're on all of those different platforms. So just give us some love, please.

SPEAKER_00

Show a little love. We're trying to show love to y'all or make life mistakes at the same pace that we are.

SPEAKER_01

We really do want to hear back from people too. Like we'd love to engage and have you guys share with us as well. So give us some comments, peeps. We want to chat for sure. Today's episode, we wanted to catch up on a couple things in life. Right now, we're just posting every other week. So a lot goes on in this two-week period. So and we want to get some, we wanted to share some of the listener feedback that we've gotten so far from some people, and then just talk about what makes us feel most alive. So let's catch up first. What do you think, Jaeger?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, let's catch up. I'm down.

SPEAKER_01

So the other night I was at my parents' house with my sister, and we're planning, she just got engaged to CJ. King and CJ. I know, they're amazing. And CJ's family watches our podcast religiously together and then like talks about it, which is hilarious, and we appreciate that so much. They're wonderful. So my sister put it on for my mom and dad to watch, and we were like all of us were crying at the part where where you're sharing about buying a house and the whole rolling out everything that went into you buying a house. That was like a great moment.

SPEAKER_00

Funny you should say that. So I made I probably made the two biggest purchases that you can make in life within a three-month span, which is perfect. That's totally fitting for me.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm actually really proud about how this second purchase went.

SPEAKER_01

What'd you buy?

SPEAKER_00

So I got a new car.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, congrats. How long did you have your last car for? It felt like a hundred years.

SPEAKER_00

It was 2016. It was a 2016, but I think I bought it in 15.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, you didn't even have Apple CarPlay in it.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, oh we'll get to that part. So I had been like looking at cars and like I'd been calling about a certain car, and they were like, yeah, it's not gonna be like we don't have any in for like four months. They're like on a four-month delay. And I was like, Well, I don't have four months.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I need new tires, I need we need immediate satisfaction, and we did not plan ahead for this, so we need it now.

SPEAKER_00

But like, also my car was due for inspection and I needed an oil change, so like all these things needed to happen, and I'm like, I really only have until like June 30th, so like four months is not in my timeline. So my mom was like, just email Brian at Montgomeryville Acura, and I was like, this isn't a plug for them, but it is a good change. Plug in you, it can be because honestly, it was like a great experience. Um, and so I I like texted him and I was like, listen, I'm either gonna need an oil change, new tires, a car inspection, and a new windshield by June 30th or a new car. And he was like, Let me connect you to my brother who works in the sales.

SPEAKER_01

Sounds like you just gotta start fresh, my friend.

SPEAKER_00

He was like, What are your qualifications? Like, what do you need? And I was like, a three-row SUV.

SPEAKER_01

That's why do you need three rows? Well, you have why do you need you have two kids, right?

SPEAKER_00

I have two kids and then two by like common law adoption. Which are my two kids.

SPEAKER_01

We need three rows in our cars to support this family unit, me, you, and our four kids.

SPEAKER_00

Because sometimes it is easier for us to just say that we're lesbians and in like a domestic relationship, we get discounts on like gym memberships, memberships are cheaper, like so like that is a thing, which should count because you are my closest, longest, healthiest, relationship that I've ever had. Hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01

Since third grade.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. That's a long time. It's a long time. Anywho, anyway, they were like, that's your qualifications, and I was like, Yeah, and like a lighter interior.

SPEAKER_01

But I was like everything. I can't stand it. Mine's black, I can't stand it.

SPEAKER_00

Other than that, I'm pretty open. So they were like, just alright, just let us know. Have you ever driven one? I was like, no, I've never driven one. So anyway, on Monday I went to drive, like, test drive one, and he was like, just text me before you come, and I'll have it pulled up. I test drove it, and then the guy was like, Do you have any questions? And it's like, no, I don't have any questions. I was making up questions like what what kind of gas mileage does it get? What kind of gas do you put in the car? Like, just stupidest questions. Because I'm like, I don't actually have any questions. And then I was like getting in the car and they were like, Oh, it has like Apple Play, and I was like, Thank goodness, because my best friend keeps making fun of me that I don't have Apple Play in my car.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I as the passenger in the front seat of your car, it's been years of suffering for me.

SPEAKER_00

Years of suffering. Well, now you don't have to suffer anymore. But they but they they were like, okay, we're gonna go test drive your Highlander. And I thought about getting the car detailed before I even took it in there, and they gave me a range of like what it would be, and I was like, I'm just gonna wing it. So I like took all the big chunks out of the car, but I like told the guy, I was like, listen, there's enough snacks, crushed up snacks in that back to feed the starving children of of Ethiopia. And he was like, I have three kids, and I was like, Oh, so you'll be just at home.

SPEAKER_01

You'll feel if you have kids and you don't have smashed goldfish in the rugs of and every crevice of your vehicle, then you're not living. You're not living.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're not a parent at that point. No, so he was like, So he he was like, Where are the keys? And I was like, I left them in there. I always play the dice of this if someone steals my car, you know? Yes, the insurance payout. So he went and test drove it while I test drove like the new car. I had zero questions, I was literally making up questions, and then we came back, we did like the finances, and they were like, So what's your timeline? And I was like, Honestly, I need a car inspection. He was like, I did see the sticker. And I was like, Yeah, so like sooner rather than later. We like talked finances, and then he was like, When do you want to pick the car up? And I was like, I don't have the deposit sitting in my bank account at the moment. And he was like, Not many people do, but you can still leave with the car today. So again, they were going to sell me the car without actually making any payment. Stop. How does this keep happening to you? Because I'm a tr because I look like a trustworthy person. You do. Um I am, but I was like, listen, I'll give y'all some time.

SPEAKER_01

You gave them time. You're like, I'll let you keep your car for a little bit. Dude, you walked away from purchasing a home. You purchased the home without payment.

SPEAKER_00

No payment. No payment.

SPEAKER_01

And then the same thing happened with a vehicle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And that's the primary reason, the primary reason where I was like, no, I'll pick it up tomorrow is because like I didn't want to empty out the shit that was still in the car.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like the car seat situation.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, I'll just come back tomorrow and pick it up. But they were like, Do you want to sign all the papers today? And then you just have to bring like a check tomorrow. And I was like, Yeah, but can we go over the car insurance? Because like I've never actually bought a car by myself. And I was like, So how do I do that? And the guy was like, Do you have an app? I was like, I'm sure I do. I think it's all state. Turns out it was progressive. And he was like, You j you have five days since the purchase of the car to enter the new VIN m number of the car, and then you just remove the other one. And he was like, But don't do that today. Like, don't I was like, Got it, got it. So then I like talked with the finance guy, but honestly, like the whole thing took like two hours, and then Tuesday I went and like picked the car up. It took like 15 minutes, it was so easy. And I will give them props of like I have tried, I have test drove and got my car like valued by other dealerships, like multiple dealerships, and both of them gave me half the trade-in value, and that was like four years ago. So Montgomeryville Acura gave me the highest trade-in value, which I appreciate because like I don't know what I'm doing, and so they didn't take me take advantage of you? Yeah, they didn't take advantage of me. Like they were just like they wanted to be a good service partner, and like I appreciate that. Like I feel valued and trusted by them.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, that's amazing because the whole car buying process, like I I think I would have purchased another one by now, for sure, if I didn't have to go through the car buying process. You were with me when we went to look at we test drive the expedition. I've been in sales my whole career, right? It's it's my passion. The psychology of people is my my passion. Use car sales guys, and this isn't for everyone, not for everyone, not knocking you all, but like the the uh I don't know what the word is. What people think about when they think about salespeople is like a used car sales guy and like it an old suit, just like not trustworthy, sleazy, slimy. And the experience started good with the expedition, but then it was such a dog and pony show. It I couldn't even handle it. Like walking back to the finance guy, tell like let me let me come back, let me see what I can do.

SPEAKER_00

It was like such a show, and it felt like there was like five dudes standing around the finance guy in a glass cage, and they were just like like it felt just like they were like shouting out numbers like can you give me this rate? That's the other thing is I searched for financing rates, and a credit union gave me something, and they gave Acura Montgomeryville gave me something that was way, way less like a way better rate. And so I was like the whole thing, I felt like I was like really handle like Dude, when you like somebody and you trust somebody, you'll buy from them.

SPEAKER_01

When you feel like you're getting sold, you lose all trust. I feel like I just wanted to go, I just wanted to go in for weeks afterwards. I couldn't stop thinking about this car buying experience. I wanted to go in and be like, all right, let's talk about our sales skills here, guys. Do you remember we were sitting at the guy's desk and I was just, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not gonna like there's no objection that you can overcome. There's nothing that's gonna get me over the line today. It's I was here to test drive it. I wanted to get some numbers. I'm not ready to pull the trigger today. But if you give me a good experience, I will buy from you happily. And I'm I'm not even gonna like wheel and deal it a whole lot. I'll I'll pay whatever most of the time because I don't want to go through. I want it to be easy and I want to like you and I want to trust you. And he was sitting there at the desk, and then you and I were sitting there, and this guy is I see this guy out of my peripheral walking by, and he's he's walking by, and then our sales guy looks at him and was like, Oh, it's uh Mike, the sales manager. How's it going? I I have Nicole.

SPEAKER_00

So weird. All of a sudden, you know, he got up, and you and I were like, How did he even sit down? Like, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_01

Was such a weird our sales guy, he was pretending like he was just taking a stroll on by take the sales manager was pretending like he was taking a sh just happened to be taking a stroll by us, and then all of a sudden it stops, and our sales guy gets up from his seat, doesn't say anything, and Mike the sales manager glides on in to the seat and I'm like, what just what just happened?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was such a weird transaction. How did didn't I say something uncomfortable in the test drive?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, because we showed up, like we show up there shopping together. So obviously people are like they think they're lesbians. Look at these wives together. So we were like, the guy was actually the our sales guy was actually funny when we were test driving, and he was asking questions and stuff, which is was great. But yeah, then we had to like stop. There was no gas, there's no gas in it, not our fault, just but there was no gas in the car, so we had to stop. And we were telling some kind of story. Oh, I think we both said we're both divorced or something. And he asked a question and he was like, he or she or he didn't know he didn't know what to say if if the our exes or whatever were but he didn't know how to refer to us. Yeah. So I forgot what did you say?

SPEAKER_00

You said you just like blurted something out, and it was like it was a moment, and I felt you were like, dude, don't say uncomfortable things.

SPEAKER_01

Which why would I why would I say that? I love when you say uncomfortable things, it really breaks the ice. I think he had a lot of fun with us. For sure. I'd still probably buy from from him. He was he was good enough, but it's just the process.

SPEAKER_00

Sales manager and like going back to like the finance guy. The fact that the finance guy sits in like a glass cage is so weird. Dude, they need And he's like, Let me see if I can do better. And it's like, no, come to me with your best offer. I'm not here to do this bullshit. Like the longer this process takes, the more steps back that I'm taking. Yeah. Like, come to me with your best offer. Like, I'm not here to do this negotiation. And I feel like maybe we should be like rolling in with like the longer this process takes, the more steps I take back. And there's other dealerships and there's other houses, like, whatever the purchase is, is just like if we're gonna go back and forth here on negotiating, like the longer this takes, the less motivated I am.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you want like papers out of my glove box, and then you want to like go to the copier and scan them, and you want to get up and sit down. Like, I don't have this attention spin. If I walk in, I'm like, I I want I like this car, I want this car. Be like, all right, here's what it costs. You want to buy it now? I'll be like, yeah, let's do it. That's how I like to buy.

SPEAKER_00

That is wait, I do want to talk about this because I this is what I'm this is the growth that I've had from my house sale to my car purchase. Is at the dealership on Monday, they were like, You didn't bring your car title? And I was like, I feel like that's not something you should keep in your car. And they were like, No, typically you keep it in a safe, and I was like, Well, I don't have a safe. I know, so I know it's not in one of those, but I feel optimistic that I have my car title. And they were like, Okay, like three separate people were like, the cost of getting a new car title is like XYZ. And I was like, Okay, I feel good about it, but like I could feel that they were like, We don't feel good that you have your car title.

SPEAKER_01

They're like, This bitch does not have her car title, yes.

SPEAKER_00

So I like went home and I was like, car title and I need a check. I instantly found my car title, dude. Was it in a safe? No, was it like out on the open? Yes, but I found it. Great job. Win felt like a win. The check thing, they were like, you can just write a personal check. And in my head, I was like, Yeah, that would work if I had a checkbook.

SPEAKER_01

Who has checkbooks? Seriously.

SPEAKER_00

Well, so I went, so I like called the Chase bank and I was like, hey, I need to write a check for this amount. Can I just like walk in and y'all just like print me one? And they were like, Yeah, you can come in. And I was like, How long will this take? Like, it should be like instant. And I was like, Okay. So I go in and I'm like, she's like, okay, I need some form of identification. And accidentally, I whip out my passport card and she hands it back to me and she goes, Yeah, we can't use the passport card. She goes, I know, it doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, you can go to Canada with that. And she was like, I know, it doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, also, who has a checkbook? And she's like, I don't know. I work at a bank and I don't have a checkbook.

SPEAKER_01

And I was like this lady.

SPEAKER_00

I love you, and I'm so here for you.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

But I was like, luckily, I renewed my license.

SPEAKER_01

You were prepared this time.

SPEAKER_00

Hmm. I felt so good.

SPEAKER_01

You had a wallet.

SPEAKER_00

I had a wallet with a valid driver's license.

SPEAKER_01

Look at you.

SPEAKER_00

Growth. Growth, my friends.

SPEAKER_01

High five.

SPEAKER_00

Growth. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, that's what life's all about. Growth.

SPEAKER_00

Look at me growing and maturing as an adult.

SPEAKER_01

You're just making me so proud.

SPEAKER_00

Making myself proud.

SPEAKER_01

As you should. As you should. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00

But that car, the Highlander, was like the last piece of my divorce that I feel like. Like he picked that car out. I picked the color. So I feel like it's like all strings have been detached minus our children, obviously.

SPEAKER_01

That's awesome. Has to feel like fresh. Even buying a car. Yeah, of course, we've owned cars and stuff like that. But whether it's our dads helping us when we were younger or ex-husbands. Our ex-husbands.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I remember John being for the sale of the Highlander. I remember him being like, Do you want to come? And I was like, No, I don't, I can't be bothered.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I did buy all my own cars from my Cabrio that I got in college. I bought that car. And then I had a Honda Civic. And I bought that. I worked for Enterprise and I bought it from Enterprise. And then for a lot of years in Enterprise, I had a company car, so I didn't have to buy a car. And then my first, yeah, my first car that I bought after that, my ex always helped with. It's such a terrible process.

SPEAKER_00

I know. Because the yours was good. Yeah. Mine was amazing. And I I feel good about it. Yeah. William told me my new car was dope. It is dope.

SPEAKER_01

I love that.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, yeah, William.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, buddy.

SPEAKER_00

But there's like strict rules in this one.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, this is hilarious though. Wait, tell your strict rules, and then I have to tell you a really funny anti-beanie and William story. Don't let me forget.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. There's no eating. You can only drink water. And whatever you walk in with, you walk out with.

SPEAKER_01

And I respect the hell out of those rules. Let me tell you, I support them. I respect them. But how long are they gonna last? Realistically. EBD.

SPEAKER_00

EBD.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Montgomeryville Accurate did tell me they were like, there's free car washes here, so you can just bring your car here and we'll just wash it for you. And I did get the whole thing like front to back, interior, exterior warranty. Maybe I got oversold on that part, but like I'm I'm okay with that because I know that the interior is just gonna get destroyed. And probably the exterior. Like the guy was the guy told me on the tires thing, and he was like, I was like, Well, I'm a female driver, so like of course I'm gonna need the tire insurance. And he was like, Well, males blow out tires too, and I'm like, right, but like Sometimes those curves just like pop up out of nowhere, you know? They come out of nowhere, and then you scuff the whole rim. He's like, Yeah, of course I'm gonna need that coverage, you know? But anyway, tell your William and Auntie Beanie story.

SPEAKER_01

So we when we were at my parents' house the other night, it was the day that they went to take your kid to work day with you. And you took my kids and your kids, which they had so much overcommitted.

SPEAKER_00

But it was great experience.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I think it was like my sister, someone was like, What does what does Anthony Beanie do for work? And this is a joke between us because I I've been your best friend since third grade, and you've had the same job since you've been out of college with the same company. And I still can't explain what you do for work. So I just tell everybody that you're you do spreadsheets all day long. And I think that it's it's close. But he goes, William goes, she's in real estate. And I was dying because I've never said that. And and I think my sister, because my sister was part of that conversation the one time of like explaining friends' work.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and we recorded everyone explained what they did, and then we like recorded everyone trying to reiterate it.

SPEAKER_01

And my sister was like, I don't know if that's true. And William was like, Yes, it is true. She's in real estate.

SPEAKER_00

No, it is, it is true. It is true.

SPEAKER_01

So I was dying about that. I forgot to tell you that.

SPEAKER_00

But they we had like a group meeting, and they asked the kids, like, what do you think your parents do? And Brooks raised his hand, and you always just like hold your breath at like what that child is gonna say. And he was like, My mommy works to buy a new car. True. But had zero idea. Lucy, I looked at Lucy and I was like, and she went, she wasn't gonna offer anything. She's like, No. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, yeah, no. I'm not gonna answer any of that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Are you looking at your notes?

SPEAKER_01

Wait, I don't think I've fully told you about this rabbit hole that I went down recently.

SPEAKER_00

You tell.

SPEAKER_01

So someone was like telling me a story about their last name. And it made me go down such this rabbit hole because I was so my maiden name my maiden name, last name is Keach.

SPEAKER_00

And I've always known that my maiden my maiden my maiden name is. What is your fucking maiden name?

SPEAKER_01

Listen, my brain and mouth spit it out. Spit it out. My maiden last name is Keach. And Keach, it's from England, translates into a lump or lard of fat. Which is hilarious. And that's so funny.

SPEAKER_00

I know.

SPEAKER_01

Especially because everybody's always called me Keach. It's only been really recently in my life that people even call me Nicole, which sounded weird for even people to call me.

SPEAKER_00

Can I start calling you like a lump of fat or a lump of lard?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. If you're welcome to call me whatever you want, or you could just call me Keach, and that translates into that as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but people won't know that. It'll be funnier in person if I just call you uh hey lump of lard. Yes. Like if I just shouted that out in public, you would most likely respond.

SPEAKER_01

I'd be like, yeah. What do you need? What what's up?

SPEAKER_00

What can I get you?

SPEAKER_01

That's me. What? Wait.

SPEAKER_00

Lump of lard here.

SPEAKER_01

So I went to obviously I went to Chat GPT and I'm looking up because I want to know more information about it. So I start looking up Keach. It brings me down this rabbit hole that I ended up, I ended up staying up. This was a work night too. I ended up staying up until 1 30 in the morning. I went from ChatGPT over to Ancestry.com, have a full subscription there now. And like not just like a trial subscription. When they were like, the premium will give you X, Y, and Z. And I was like, yes, I need that. Dude, I went back. I traced the keychains back to the 1800s. Per it, but I built a whole family tree that is so, it's so massive that I can't even look at it. I like tried to put it up on the TV to like look at it. You can't even look at it. I went all the way back to the 1800s. And like I have a famous great-great-grandfather who has a book that he's in called Hex. And he was like a famous detective in York. Pennsylvania? Yeah. Like my dad's side of the family has been in, it's like Pennsylvania Dutch. And they've been in York, Pennsylvania for longer than I even knew America existed. And actually, there was a lot of divorce too. So like that must run in the family. Like back when people weren't even getting divorced. Like Ralph Keach had three wives.

SPEAKER_00

Ralph.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think he went by Ralph or like do you think he had a nickname? Like Ralphie? I don't know. I guess your next dog you should name Ralph.

SPEAKER_01

That's a great idea.

SPEAKER_00

Duh. Heard it here first. Like that move. Dude, Ralph is a great name for a dog, but let's get back to your family tree. But I mean now we've established the name of your next dog. We can get back to that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that's that's really the gist of it.

SPEAKER_00

Now I kind of want to do that.

SPEAKER_01

You should start with Chat GBT because it tells you a lot. Like it gives you a lot of information. But then go to Ancestry and it pull like it pulls like US Census stuff from the 18-1900s. It finds death certificates, it finds birth certificates, marriage certificates, and it like links people, and then you can start like building this tree.

SPEAKER_00

It's but like I know that my dad's parents, so like my grandmom and grandpa, and I've never met my grandpa on my dad's side. I know that they were fresh off the boat.

SPEAKER_01

So we're my mom's side of the family, all of um, so my my grandparents, both of their parents were fresh off the boat from Ireland.

SPEAKER_00

But there's my grandparents were fresh off the boat.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm telling you, even mine was a generation back, and there's still data on them and their family over in Ireland.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Like my dad's parents were so German. Like she made she made on Easter. It tasted like chicken.

SPEAKER_01

Ew. That reminds me of that's like a German thing. That reminds me of Dead Ed.

SPEAKER_00

But my last name. I don't know what the actual translation is, but like Jaeger translates into like hunter, I think. Then there's like some connection to deer blood, but I think that's because deer blood used to be in Jaegermeister. Obviously, they don't serve it that way in the United States or now.

SPEAKER_01

But the surname Jaeger is German and literally means hunter. A few interesting facts. German-speaking regions, especially modern-day Germany, Austria, Switzerland. Occupational surmate surname, similar to English names like Hunter, Fisher, Smith. It was originally given to someone who hunted game, managed hunting lands, or worked for a noble estate.

SPEAKER_00

Better than a lumpy fat.

SPEAKER_01

It's a fairly common German surname and is found throughout Pennsylvania due to the large number of German immigrants who settled there in the 1700s and 1800s. Wait, since you're in Pennsylvania, there's a decent chance the Jaeger family line arrived through the same broader wave of German immigration that brought many Pennsylvania Dutch families to the region. I'm Pennsylvania Dutch too. Did we know that we have like this similarity? I don't think we did.

SPEAKER_00

I'm here for it. But also, I like there is like when they came over in immigration, I know that there are some Jaegers where they so the German J is pronounced as like a Y in the English language. And so some people spell Jaeger I-E-A-G-E-R. In German it's a J, so like the right way is like if you look at a bottle of Jaegermeister, it says J A G E R. And that I forget what they're called, the two dots over the A signifies like the A-E sound.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

So like mine was converted the right way, but I get I guess there's no wrong way. Because there is like a Y-E-A-G-E-R Jaeger.

SPEAKER_01

So like I mean, shout out to all the Y Jaegers, but I think I'm here for the J's. I'm here for the J's. Jaeger is my jam.

SPEAKER_00

You just said it wrong.

SPEAKER_01

Purposefully. Bruh.

SPEAKER_00

But I do remember like when I would go to like anywhere, they'd be like, what's your last name? And I would mispronounce it so that they would act. Because if you said like Jaeger, they'd do a Y. It would go to the Y's, and I'd be like, No, you have to go to the J's. So I would mispronounce it and be like, Jaeger, so that they would go to the right section.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. So that was super interesting and fun. And I recommend that you do that.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great journey. I'm gonna take that journey. Maybe this weekend.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, I was like, I was like, oh my god, it's 1 30. And I'm I'm back in the 1800s right now. I gotta go to work tomorrow. And wait, here's what what's funny too. And I swear, and I thought it was just me, but when I was with my family the other night, I was telling them this story too, and my sister said the same thing. So I swear to you, my dad always told us when we were growing up that his dad grew up in an orphanage and he didn't know who his dad's family was. So I'm doing this, and I'm like, there's more information on his dad's family than any of the other grandparents that I can find.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so maybe your mom was the orphan.

SPEAKER_01

No, well, no, she wasn't either. So we my dad was like, no, that's that's not true. And I was like, Your dad has been lying to you for 40 years. And then my sister was like, wait, I've literally told everybody in my life that my papy's my papy grew up in an orphanage, and we didn't know other than the last name, and we could trace it back to English Larda Fat. That's all we ever knew about our history. And like, I've lived my life that way, and so has she. And none of that was true.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, Blake is the best. Blake think we're just cracking the shell at the lies, at the childhood lies that Blake has told you that you're uncovering. And I'm also kind of here for that because I have told my children straight up lies that I'm like, I can't wait for them to uncover the truth about them.

SPEAKER_01

I just picture Blake back in the day. You know how kids always ask, but why? But this. We're probab we're probably like asking about his family history. And he's like, I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

He was like, and it probably was just like a quick answer one time that he was like, I'm just gonna live with it. But like I told Lucy one time, one time I told her when she was in the bathtub, I was like, if you drink tub water, your hands will fall off.

SPEAKER_01

Why did you tell her that?

SPEAKER_00

Because I didn't want her to drink tub water.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_00

And like you're like at the end of the night, you're like, you got nothing left, and you just like reach for an extreme, right? So like yes, reached for an extreme, right? And she literally I remember when I told her she literally looked at me and she like looked at her hands, and then she sadly looked up at me, and then she went, and honest to God, never drank tub water after that. She came to me in tears one day, and she was like, Brooksy drank tub water, and so his hands are gonna fall off. And I was I was like, Well, how much did he drink? Because that depends on like what falls off. So I had to then expand upon the lie, you know, but like there are lies that we tell our children. Okay, your hands will fall off if you drink top water, okay?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good one. So I just went down just to get a cup of coffee. Cup of coffee. Which this is there's nothing like a good coffee mug. Keeks gave this to me one time. I freaking love you. And like every time I drink my coffee out of it, it brings me so much joy.

SPEAKER_00

I actually think a coffee mug it should be our first piece of merch.

SPEAKER_01

I'm totally down with that. What do you think it should say?

SPEAKER_00

Uh spicy as shit. Love it. Which can we talk about how this wasn't on the agenda. But I'm gonna put it out there. You when I first sent you the t-shirt spicy as shit, you were like, ooh, I don't know that people are gonna want to wear a shirt that says a curse word, shit. And I even put like an exclamation point as like the I and shit. And then you had the audacity to s to send me a t-shirt that had the word fuck in it. Disgusting. But it was like I I'm confused. Do you want our merch to have curses? Or do you not want our merch to have curses?

SPEAKER_01

Dude, you think you're confused? Try living in my brain.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, you're a confusing individual. I know. I know. But I think spicy as shit on a coffee mug is a great start for merch.

SPEAKER_01

Just because I take back I talk to our merch. I take back what I said. I'm reversing. I am giving you the Uno card. Reverse throp through reverse drop.

SPEAKER_00

You never do this. This is a rare occurrence. Moment in history.

SPEAKER_01

I I want this to be on camera for everybody to witness for all y'all who told me I never admit when I'm wrong. I can never admit when I'm wrong. You're always right, Nicole. Most of the time I am, okay? Right now I'm wrong. I was wrong. I, Nicole, Keach, do solemnly swear that I was wrong and Jaeger was right. Spicy as shit, SAS, on a t-shirt is great merch. Great merch.

SPEAKER_00

Cause I talked to our merch guy and he was like, mugs are super easy because they're one size fit all. T-shirts, you have to buy like multiple sizes. And you almost have to do like a pre-order.

SPEAKER_01

Order the t-shirts, but we're gonna just cut them. We cut all of our t-shirts with scissors just because like that's what we do. That's who we are. And we like it.

SPEAKER_00

Um that will be an added fee.

SPEAKER_01

True.

SPEAKER_00

A personalized yours truly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we're pretty good at 'em. Sometimes we get 'em too short if you put 'em through the washer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it becomes just a nighttime shirt because your tits will come out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's like a nighttime shirt, or like you only wear it with a bathing suit because Yeah, or like you only wear it when you're like, I'm gonna house clean and there's no one else here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because like if one tick comes out, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01

Or like you want to hang out with your boo and uh Yeah. You want that to happen.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Alright, so But sometimes we go most of the times we cut them really good. I don't want to short sell ourselves here.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. We will. And if if you're like this is way too short, first we're gonna be like, let us decide that for you. Because you might you might just be a little self-conscious of yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Or you're overcommitting. But either way, it like at the end, like sometimes it really works out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, so I also think we need a shirt that says fucking youth sports. And do I parents of youth sports, do I need to say any more than fucking youth sports?

SPEAKER_00

No, don't get me fucking started. I've already, I've already had conversations with my therapist about fall sports, and it's fucking June. I'm so mad.

SPEAKER_01

Also, Blake Blake said, What are what are two pretty girls like you doing dropping the F bomb so much? I liked the podcast, but you girls are too classy to be dropping the F bomb. Like, we're not that classy, Dad. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's so hilarious coming that's so hilarious coming from a man who drinks rumplements on ice.

SPEAKER_01

With a side of Landshark?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, Landshark, I feel like. Landshark. I feel like Landshark. I feel like Landshark's pretty classy, but the rumplements is where he's.

SPEAKER_01

It is, but it's a hilarious combination. That's what he gets when he when he goes to the bar to like watch sports with his friends. He orders a Landshark and a shot of Rupplements. He doesn't take shots though. He just sips on it. And he sips on them together. Like what kind of combination is that?

SPEAKER_00

It's Blake's combo.

SPEAKER_01

I remember one time he was diabetes and a beer. I remember one time, this was like a long time ago, and we had like a neighborhood park, I forget what it was, but he got two kegs, and one was like Bud Light and one was Yingling, and he would mix them together. He'd do half and half. And he thinks it's normal. It's Blake Blake's gonna Blake. Blake's gonna Blake. I am who I am because of you. It's your fault. Okay?

SPEAKER_00

And I like part of me wishes that my dad was still alive because I think well, a lot of like obviously I wish my dad was still alive. Yeah, but I think my dad and Blake would have really gotten along. A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01

They're just two types of guys who are simple guys and just like good, like good human beings. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

And also They just like hate everyone else. Like they have very few friends. They're like very selective because they're just like inappropriate.

SPEAKER_01

And like actually has a good crew of friends, but he doesn't like to leave the house ever. Which makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't like to leave the house either.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um but I They also were like quiet. Like they they would sit they'd probably sit there together on the couch and have golf or whatever on and not talk the whole time and just make a couple random random like crude or dad jokes, and they'd giggle, and that would be it.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Yes. My dad was just like the king of inappropriate jokes. Like you wonder where I get it from, and it's just because like my dad just like didn't care about the audience that was in front of him. Like he was gonna make the joke.

SPEAKER_01

He was just that's what I appreciate out of Rich Jaeger and Blake Keach, both of them, is they show up who they are. And like I look up to that.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Like I learned how to give the middle finger from my dad.

SPEAKER_01

But I also you can tell, have like been through some stuff in life. And I feel like that's kind of connects to where you and I are in our lives too. Like sometimes when you've been through some stuff in your life, your your worldview or your perspective on life and your perspective on like what matters and what's important and what's a big deal totally changes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

For the better, most of the time. 100%. And my dad definitely went through like all of those things. Like he went through some stuff. But I also feel like he taught me the importance of just like listening. You know? And I one of my biggest life regrets is just like not communicating how I felt about him. And I also didn't. Like he was my like he was my best friend. Like he was a great confidence for me. He was. And I honestly didn't realize it until it wasn't there. And so people that like still have both their parents there, like I like. Because there's and like my mom is a best friend. Like I tell her everything. And I love her, and she is so supportive of me. And she's amazing. Honestly, both my brothers are too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You have a great family. But sometimes you don't realize what you have until you lose it. And like that. That part sucks. And like the time of my life that I lost my dad also fucking sucks. Because it was like I was in this. I don't know, I feel like I was in this selfish part of my life. Because it was like. But then I got married, and then like over my honeymoon, we like basically found out. So it's like I came back from my honeymoon and found out that my dad was basically dying. We're completely off topic.

SPEAKER_01

No, there is no on topic, first of all. And I number one, I want to like applaud you for being brave enough to share this. I have been through this journey with you. And just that in and itself is so much growth for you, Christina. Like I you wouldn't talk about it for the longest time. And you wouldn't let the emotion show for the longest time. And dude, you wouldn't even walk like you wouldn't watch your wedding video. I have you ever watched your wedding video?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

And you wouldn't because your dad was really sick at that time and you didn't want to see him like that. And um I think in a lot of areas, and I'm not saying this to pick you apart, like we we this is what's so like amazing and beautiful about our friendship is we you know I love you more than anything in the world, and I know you love me more than anything in the world, and we can be open and honest with each other, and our foundation is so strong, it it will never break. And you have it's it's been a strength and a weakness of you, too, is not sharing what's inside of you because you've held it to try to take care of it all on your own for so long, and to be strong and to be brave, and the fact that you have like done so much work on yourself that you talk to your therapist about this, that you share all of this, like you would have never done this or even shared this about your dad even a year ago.

SPEAKER_00

Probably not.

SPEAKER_01

So I just want to applaud you for doing that because I can't imagine what it feels like to lose one of my parents, and I knew your dad, and he was like a really special man, and your relationship with him, like you and I always were up to no good in one way or another. Always, we're always scheming this, that, and the other. But I remember times where you would call home and you'd talk to your dad, and you'd like ask your dad, and you'd have a conversation with him, and that is when you would that was your boundary, and that's when you would draw the line. Like, I remember you being like, no, Keach, like I don't want to disappoint my dad. And to be that type of parent and to have that kind of relationship to where you your kid makes the right decisions in life because of like the love and connection that you guys have. How impactful is that? That is you made it as a parent.

SPEAKER_00

Like, that's you honestly, like, that's what I'm like striving for as a parent. And I feel like it's like a really high bar. And to be honest, I've like talked to my mom about this. Like, he wasn't sure if he wanted to be a parent, which is like wild to me, and like my mom is amazing. She is like, I love her, she is my best friend. I tell her way more than she should know. Mama depths, she always has been, she's always been our girl, and she's she's been a great support system to you, too. Um unbelievable. But like my dad was like unsure that he wanted to have kids because both my parents were divorced before they got married. Um and he was like, I don't know if I want to have kids, but then he had kids and he was like so committed, and he was such a great dad. Yeah. And honestly, like some people have really shitty dads and they live really long, and so I should be grateful that I had like such a great dad, even though he didn't live as long as this is my silver line.

SPEAKER_01

Here she goes. Silver line and Sally.

SPEAKER_00

This is my silver line. Uh-huh. Like, I should be grateful, and I am grateful that I like at least had him for the time that I did. You know?

SPEAKER_01

And both can be true. You can be grateful and you can have a positive perspective on it, and you can also say, like, this wasn't fair. And I mean, I can only imagine that there's just a huge chunk of your heart and your soul that will hurt forever and will never sure, like, they say time heals everything, but like time doesn't heals everything.

SPEAKER_00

It's still grief, like, changes, right? Like it and you can grief things that are still alive, right? Like, you can grieve relationships and you can grieve people that are still alive and those things. But like, grief can take on, and grief can look like very, very different things. Yeah. Absolutely. Cause like I'm still grieving people that are alive. Same. That used to be part of my life that aren't part of my life. Yeah. And I don't know what's easier. Like grieving.

SPEAKER_01

I'm really just thinking that. I was literally just thinking that in my head, like contemplating that same thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it's like, is it easier grieving someone that is no longer here that you can't connect with, or is it easier grieving someone that is alive that you could still potenti like you know what I mean? Like, I don't I don't know. Cause like you can't fix anything with someone that's passed away that's not here, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but in some instances you can't with and I think about like and I think down the line we'll get into even more like in-depth into like what makes us who we are. Like we're silly and we're raunchy sometimes, and we're um emotional sometimes, and we're but like we both we both do have depth and we both have stories and we are who we are today because of some stories, and I think about like I don't know, I think about the there's like some really impactful grief moments and like losing people for sure, like losing my I mean all of my grandparents, but like I had a really, really special relationship with my mom's mom. And like like I she's been gone since 2007, I think, and I still like she had such an impact on me. My Aunt Sandy, my dad's sister, who passed away really young, like people who have had these like lasting impacts on your life, his grief that you carry forever and it never goes away. Um, but then I think about uh William and his birth story. Um and I think about my marriage. Like I am still, it's been like three and a half years. I feel like I've been saying three and a half for like a year now, so it might be longer, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00

But I think we can go to four.

SPEAKER_01

Round it up to four. And I'm I believe I believe it was the right decision for both of us to not be married, but I still grieve like what what you you grieve what you thought you got into.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And that's a part of like divorce that people don't understand is that like I didn't and you didn't get married thinking that our lives would end up this way, and so like there is a part of it of just like you build this whole like empire, and then there's a part that's just like it's not there, and you're like, you feel like you're rebuilding, and you are, and but like you're rebuilding something that's better and healthier, but that doesn't mean that it's an easy transition. That doesn't mean that you go from like A to C and it's like a an Excel a train ride, like it's a fucking roller coaster from A to C and then you have to go to D. And like it the whole thing is a roller coaster, but I I do wanna circle back to like Williams first story. If you're okay with it. For sure.

SPEAKER_01

I uh I've always been like, I feel like almost too open and too sharing with some things, but I would I wouldn't take any of that back either. Um, because it's what's helped support me and hold me up. That's what's helped me get through what I've gone through with William is talking about it. Of course, the people who are close to me, but also just to like to anyone, because I am a different human being today than I have been in my life. When William was born, and my journey raising him is a pivotal moment to who the core of me is and what matters to me. And so happy to share. Um do you want to take a minute and get like a box of tissues? Sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think I'll be able to get through it, but I think that's a good idea.