6. Age of the Orbs

The most commonly reported UAP shape according to NUFORC — the main civilian UFO reporting database in North America — is the orb. Not saucers. Not triangles. Orbs.

And when you look at Canadian cases specifically, the pattern is impossible to ignore. Shag Harbour 1967 — orange lights over water. Falcon Lake 1967 — a golden glow near the ground. CADORS aviation reports — commercial pilots describing orbs keeping pace with aircraft over Canadian airspace. And a growing community of Canadians reporting orbs over water, over fields, on rural highways at night.

This week the Trump administration released new classified UAP files including a video called "Orbs Over the Pond" — a plasma-like sphere hovering above water, stationary for 45 minutes, then gone. Congressman Eric Burlison described seeing plasmoid footage in a classified government briefing that he calls "unshakable." David Grusch described the phenomenon as including "sentient plasmoid life."

This episode connects all of it — the Canadian cases, the current files, the Congressional testimony, and the directed energy weapons the Pentagon just publicly demonstrated for the first time. Plus: what do orbs actually mean? Are they craft? Plasma? Something we don't have a category for yet?

Canada has been documenting this shape for nearly sixty years. Nobody has been paying attention. That's changing.

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I want to ask you something. When you think of a UFO, what shape do you think of? Most people say soft saucer or triangle or the classic gray alien ship, whatever that is. Something you've seen in a movie probably, but that seems to be changing. When you look up what's actually being reported right now by pilots, by federal agents, by military personnel, or by people whose job it is to track these things, what I'm hearing more and more is not saucers, it's orbs. Basically glowing spheres, um, sometimes orange, sometimes red, sometimes plasma-like. And the plasma thing is coming up a lot. I've talked about this on the show before, Mr. David Grush, the icon, um, who said the US government is aware of sentient plasmoid life. So plasma has been on top of my mind recently, trying to understand these sightings and how they differ from the more traditional UFO sightings. But these orbs have been seen moving intelligently near water, near military bases, near nuclear facilities over and over and over again. And when I started looking at Canadian cases going back decades, the same shape keeps showing up here too. Hey, I'm Peter from BC, and this is the Canadian UFO podcast. We are six episodes into season one, and I feel like we've been building into this specific conversation. I am so excited that you're here. Let me recap briefly for you. Episode four, we talked about Falcon Lake, the orange glow near the ground. Episode five, we spoke about Shag Harbor, the orange lights over the water, and a second craft that came to help. Both times, honey, or both times in Canada, and both times they were officially filed and never explained. So today we're gonna zoom out and talk about what this shape means and what it's connected to right now, and why I think it's the most important and often most overlooked thread in this entire UFO conversation. Maybe it's because the orbs are just coming to the forefront right now, but I feel like this is a new perspective in the conversation. So I'm super interested. As you know, the Trump administration has now released three tranches of classified UAP files through their public portal at war.gov. And across all three releases, the shape that keeps coming back is Orbs. So let me tell you a little bit about the specific ones. We had Orbs Over the Pond, which was a video of a plasma-like sphere hovering just above the surface of the water that was changing shape intermittently and was stationary for 45 minutes, then gone. 45 minutes, that's longer than a friends episode for my elder millennials out there. Um, so a federal law enforcement report, um, six agents, three separate teams, all independently describing large orange orbs on the horizon that were emitting smaller red orbs before disappearing. Um, if you've seen the releases on war.gov, they have these artist renditions, which I think actually kind of cheapens it. It's for skeptics, for people who are like not knee deep or waist deep or neck deep in this conversation, you really need more than an artist rendering to convince people. And I think we're moving in the right direction, obviously. But um, I remember watching this, the sphere artist rendition on the website, and just was immediately like, you can't do that. It's so cheesy, people aren't gonna take it seriously. But anyway, the reports that accompany accompanied it were interesting. So there was also a second FBI report, which spoke about a red sphere which was about a meter wide, containing what witnesses described as a white plasma sun in its center. A second orb appeared, the two seemed tethered together as they moved away. The government flagged all of these as among their most compelling released evidence. And Pete Heggseth the Secretary of Defense said these files, quote, hidden behind classifications, have long fueled speculation, and it's time the American people see it for themselves. And of course, we know when they say the American people, we mean the world. Now, here's where I thought things got really interesting because it's not just the files, it's what the people who've seen the classified stuff are saying out loud. So, David Grush, who testified before Congress under oath about secret recovery programs, was on the Capitol steps earlier this month, and he described the phenomenon as a continuum from physical beings to what he called sentient plasmoid life, which I just talked about. So basically, what that is is intelligent orbs. Um, Congressman Eric Burleson, the same one who quietly met with Canadian MPs about disclosure. Um, he actually just talked about that in a recent interview. I was happy to see. I think it was actually on American Alchemy. So Canada's uh, we're clawing our way closer to the center of the conversation, which is good. But he sat down with investigative journalist Ross Culthart this week and said the material he's seen in classified government briefings um is something that he finds unshakable. It's the plasmoid. So growing balls of plasma, moving intelligently, about half the size of a sedan, that's pretty big. And they're not flying by any conventional means, which again is common when people are seeing UAP. And he nor the intelligence community knows what they are. So again, he's a sitting US congressman, classified briefings, he's talking about intelligent plasma orbs and what will it take? Like, every time I watch one of these interviews, I'm like, what do I have to do to get into one of these skiffs? And it seems like once you're in Congress, you can just go into these skiffs all the time. I don't know. The more and more this conversation evolves and sort of moves into the mainstream, the more it feels like the Men in Black movie, where you know, like they're going into these secret rooms and talking about aliens, and it's just getting more and more wacky. Like to me, the plasmoid life seems more sci-fi than an actual alienship. And I know a lot of skeptics, they're one of the main arguments, and justifiably, is um that it's too hard to get between planets in the universe. Like the the technology is something we can't really fathom. So when you think about the plasmoid life, I don't know. Aliens seem more realistic to me, like the Greys. That might just be my fantasy, but yeah, the plasmoid life, I think maybe because they're so not humanoid, it's just yeah, it's bending my brain a little bit. But let me show you now why this matters specifically for a Canadian podcast. Because when I look at the Canadian cases, the ones buried in government archives, the ones we've been covering this season, the orb description is literally everywhere. And not just on the cases that I've spoken about, which is Shag Harbor in 1967, the orange lights over the water that were hovering again, just below the surface, Falcon Lake, the golden glow near the ground, which was coming from a craft, but still we got that glow, which is strongest. The glow was strongest at surface level and faded as it climbed. And multiple cat K Dors aviation reports, um, commercial pilots describing orange and white orbs keeping pace with aircraft over Canadian airspace. Canada has over a thousand UFO sightings reported every year, and the most common shape is orbs. I had no idea. Um, nobody at a government level is systematically looking at them, which is part of the reason why I looked at this show. I actually saw, or sorry, started the show, actually saw a post on Instagram this week that said uh BC has the highest reported UFO reports in like all of North America. So hello, where's like where's the documents? Where's our government? We want to talk about it. So, what are orbs? There's some speculation. Um, and this is the million-dollar question, apparently. But here are the theories that credible people are floating. So the theory one is that they are craft, they're small, unmanned, possibly reconnaissance vehicles from a larger object. The federal agents report describes a large orb emitting smaller orbs. That's consistent with a mother ship deploying probes. Interesting. Theory two, they're plasma naturally occurring or artificially generated balls of ionized gas. The problem with natural plasma is that natural plasma does not move intelligently. It doesn't pace aircraft, it doesn't hover for 45 minutes, then disappear. And when you um listen to people who have seen these things, the one thing that seems to have the most effect on them is the way that these things are moving. That's what's giving them the impression that they are not just a natural phenomenon, that there's something intelligent about them. Um, another theory, and this is the one that I find really interesting, is that there's something we don't have a category for yet. Um, so Grush said sentient plasmoid life, which is not a craft, there's not a pilot inside the craft, it's something that is the phenomenon. Um so yeah, that's that that's weird to me. So if we're thinking about consciousness, then is it just like an instance of consciousness within this orb, or is the orb itself some kind of organism or life? Because when I first started thinking about these orbs, it was almost like Tinkerbell was inside of it, like it's a it's a li it's a life force inside of the orb, but the orb isn't the life form itself. Does that make sense? Do you know what I mean? It seems like it's almost technological, like something like a remote controlled vehicle, even though it's not a physical alien. I hope I hope what I'm saying makes sense, but um something to think about. I'm curious what you all think um think it is. There's also these things called sprites, which I believe they occur around lightning storms, and they're like little glowing balls. They don't last that long. I think they might look the same, but they don't move intelligently. So there is this possibility that we just have a natural occurring phenomenon that we haven't discovered yet. I mean, they always say we don't know anything about the bottom of the ocean. There's so many organisms and life forms that we probably haven't discovered in the forest, in the desert, you know, wherever. So it yeah, it is a possibility that we just don't know what this is and it is from Earth. But another interesting thing that came out recently was the directed energy weapons um that the Pentagon finally admitted that they had, and this has been tied to UFO lore for a while, and some of the scientists that have gone missing have spoken about it. But the Pentagon just publicly demonstrated directed energy weapons, so high-powered laser lasers and microwave systems that produce concentrated beams of electromagnetic energy, beams that can burn through targets, the same kind of energy that UAP researchers say could potentially be surrounding these crafts or these orbs and causes radiation exposure to people who get too close. So Stefan Mahay got too close in 1967. He came home with burns that followed the exact pattern of a directed energy discard discharge. Um, so I don't know if there's a connection, but again, my whole process of putting these episodes together is looking at what's happening in the modern conversation, seeing if I can find links to Canadian um history and UFO um stories, and then I don't know, filling in the gaps with you to see where it could fit. The fact that the government is now publicly demonstrating technology that produces the exact kind of energy that UAP witnesses have been describing for decades, especially now where we're in the age of disclosure with a little D. Um I don't know. It's it's timing. I mean, they also did a Congress hearing this week with Luna Paulina, Paulina Luna, I can't remember her name. Um, but they were talking about MK Ultra. They're really going into all the conspiracies now. So yeah, it's it's all kind of every week, actually every day, I can go on to YouTube and see what the um what the new UFO news is, and it will tell me something new that I haven't heard. So things are progressing quickly, and this directed energy thing, I think if it was released a few years ago and it was out of nowhere, I think maybe would have gotten more attention. But we've heard of things like the Havana syndrome for a long time, which were kind of placed in the conspiratorial um bucket, but now we know that it's true. So I have been having since this whole disclosure period started, um, I think with David Grush, actually, probably since 2017 with the Tic Tac video, I talk about it a lot, and I've been talking about even more since the White House started releasing the files, and I have a lot of skeptics who are friends. Um, sometimes the conversations are fun and lighthearted, sometimes I get really triggered and offended because I can't really articulate why I believe it. And you know, when somebody's like giving you the whole it can't be true, it's a conspiracy, it's all bullshit. It's really hard to summarize everything that we've learned over the past few years in one sentence, in one conversation, to really keep the person hooked. Sometimes I feel like I can do a good job and sometimes I can't. But a friend of mine, who I would say is a skeptic, um, bought me Neil DeGrasse Degrassi Tyson's UAP book, Take Me to Your Leader. Um, I don't know if he did it to be shady, because you know, Neil is a huge skeptic, but um, he's one of the most prominent skeptics actually on this subject. But I read the whole book, read it in a couple settings. It was good. I thought he made a couple good points. Nothing we don't know. Basically, science can't prove it, so that doesn't mean it's not real, but it certainly doesn't mean it's real. And even though somebody is very decorated in the US government doesn't necessarily mean they should be more trusted as an eyewitness. Eyewitness accounts in itself is not scientific data, basically. Um, but what I found interesting is that him and even other skeptics are hedging, right? They're not converting to say, okay, it's aliens, but the conversation is different. There's a version of skepticism that used to say this is all misidentification and delusion. And that version is getting harder to maintain because when a sitting US congressman says he's seeing classified footage of intelligently moving plasma orbs and calls it unshakable, that has weight. The just the whole opinion that it's just misidentified weather balloons, it doesn't really cover it. I think even in news reports that are not UFO focused, they're they kind of laugh those reports off now. They're like, okay, yeah, I guess it wasn't a weather balloon. So things are changing, and I think about it a lot. Um, there is an author that I love named Professor Diana Walsh-Pesuka. And she, I'm gonna do a whole episode on her. She's got two books out and one on the way, but um, her thesis is that for a lot of people, the UFO phenomenon is filling the space that religion used to fill. Um, they need to believe in something beyond the ordinary, something that connects us to a bigger universe. And maybe that's part of why I find the orbs so fascinating. They're not the cold metallic saucers of cold war fear. They're light, they're plasma, they move like they're alive. If something is out there, I think it's beautiful. Like if we're going with the ancient alien or tying tying the UFO conversation to religion um at a very basic level, when you think about um lots of civilizations talking about angels or beings who fly or beings coming from the sky, there have been lots of books and and speakers and I guess thought leaders who have connected that to aliens. Like, what if they were spaceships that we were seeing? They're not aid, they're not angels, maybe they're orbs. Um, when I was reading um Dr. Pasulka's books, it really the spiritual side really resonated with me because um, as an elder millennial, I was really into the manifesting and the crystals and sort of that whole metaphysical world. And I had never really considered that potentially my draw to the conspiratorial nature of UFOs and ghosts and psychics was me looking for deeper meaning. I wasn't raised religious. Um, I thought it was a really interesting perspective. And when you bring these beautiful glowing orbs into the conversation, I don't know. Doesn't it seem a little different? Like a white, pink, blue, glowing light. That could be an angel. I don't know. But the orbs are here, they are in government files, they're being discussed in congressional briefings. There they were in Nova Scotia in 1967, in Manitoba as well that year, and uh, we're getting lots of reports all the time that Canadian airspace pilots are seeing these things going back decades. So the shape keeps showing up across time, across countries, in official reports, in testimony under oath, and the most credible voices in this conversation are now using words like sentient and plasmoid to describe them. I don't know what they are. I want to believe that they're sentient life because I think it's really cool, but I know that Canada has been documenting them since before most of the current disclosure conversation existed. And I know that in three weeks, some of the most serious researchers and former officials in the world are coming to Toronto to talk about exactly this. I just found out about this conference. I am going more on that soon. I will definitely be covering it with you. But next week we're going to take a step back from the cases and talk about something bigger: UFO culture as a whole and how it ties back to Canada. So, how we went from the X-Files, which was filmed right here in Vancouver, to Steven Spielberg's disclosure day opening number one of the box office. I was so happy that you see that. How has the narrative shifted and what it means that it happened while the government has quietly been admitting it's hiding things for 70 years. We're gonna dive into that next week. I'm Peter from BC. This is the UFO Podcast, the Canadian UFO Podcast. Excuse me. You can find me at the Canadian UFO Podcast on Instagram, or you can email me at the Canadian UFO Podcast at gmail.com. Have you seen an aura putty anywhere in Canada? Please, please tell me if you do. Seek me out. I'm here at BC and I would love to talk about it. There is a whole lot of country up here and even more sky. I will see you next week.