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Harriet Rose on Pride, the BRIT Awards, slaying the presenting game and navigating ADHD and grief | The Beth Mead Show EP06

Beth Mead Episode 6

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Episode 6 of The Beth Mead Show brings together two lesbian icons behind the mic. Give it up for Harriet Rose! In this episode, Beth Mead and Harriet spill the tea on the Euros 2025 Lioness training camp, Pride celebrations, being part of the LGBTQIA+ community, navigating ADHD, and Harriet's incredible presenting journey. It's a vibrant one full of laughs and queer joy right on time for Pride month. Not to mention, Harriet sharing her biggest Lioness crush...

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About the show
Relaxed, honest, and occasionally unexpected, The Beth Mead Show is your chance to see national treasure* and current Lioness, Beth Mead sits down with people she’s always wanted to talk to - from sport, entertainment and beyond.

Beth and her guests chat about their journeys. Because whether you win or lose, everyone has a story to tell.

Alongside the conversations we’ll be putting our guests to the test in a quiz of their life, and there’s a kick-up challenge to see who can top the Mead-erboard.

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SPEAKER_01

Hello and welcome to the Beth Made Show, where each week I'll be chatting to brilliant guests from the worlds of sport, entertainment, and beyond. Because whether you win or lose, everyone has a story to tell, and I'll be sitting down with some amazing people to help them tell theirs. Alongside the conversations, I'll be putting our guests to the test in a quiz of their life, and there's a kick-up challenge to see who can top the meter board. Expect honest conversations, lots of laughs, and a few surprises along the way. So let's get on with the show. How do you say cat in Spanish?

SPEAKER_02

Can you give me the first letter? Or is that not loud?

SPEAKER_01

G.

SPEAKER_02

Starts with G. Guerra dangari bamboo. Is that it? No. We see it by the way that the media and the government have recently been treating like trans people, for example. It is it's still dangerous to be queer. It is, yeah. Even sometimes in your own family. I don't know whether it's something to do with I lost my dad when I was young, and I know that you've experienced a very big loss of your mum. And I do think there's part of you that changes fundamentally. I think it gives a lot of perspective on life. And do you think that it just it's giving me goosebumps now? Because it is some, it's it fundamentally changed my whole life when somebody that I loved so much died that I then had to be like, I need to bring that love that I feel. It's making me want to cry. Bring that love that you were giving to him and give it to everybody else. I did also say at the beginning of the lioness, the beginning of the tournament, I was like, by the end of the tournament, I'm gonna be able to do 10 kippi puppies. Never did it. I was too busy focusing on looking like I was a lioness in the hotel.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I've had an experience in the Netherlands before with my ex-partner, uh mum. And her, and it was a naked spa. All three of you. All three. I'm into that. Welcome back to the Beth Mead Show. I have a very special guest today, an incredible presenter who interviewed some of the biggest celebrities in the world. You have your own brilliant podcast, by the way. You're sometimes funny. And she's also very shy about being a lesbian. Yes. Welcome to the show. Harriet Rose. Woo woo!

SPEAKER_02

Beth me shy girl. Yes, um, very well known for being shy. Yeah. Don't talk about my sexuality. Never, please, because I don't too shy, too shy. Um also interviewed some of the biggest celebrities, including you.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I would classify myself in that category.

SPEAKER_02

I think you are category. I I think I've interviewed one of the biggest lesbian footballers. Yes, thank you. In the world. Including Rio Ferdinand. He's also a lesbian, I've heard. Is he not?

SPEAKER_01

Really? Is he not? See, I told you that's funny. Nice. Well, let's um I am very, very lovely, and at the start of every show I give my guest a present. What? So I actually have you a present. Is that in Christmas wrapping paper? No, it's just sparkly. Don't make things up. There you go. So this is for you to open. Wow, dude, this is Christmas wrapping paper. No. Sorry. You're making things up. This is Christmas paper. It's got a star on it because you're a star. Oh, that's nice. Thank you. We three kings. Right, okay, I'm opening it up. Which one would you be? Which king would be given?

SPEAKER_02

I've heard that you like them. Not do I just like them. These are my favourite things in the world, Ben! I could cry right now. Don't. I could kiss you as well.

SPEAKER_01

To be fair, that would be the first thing on the podcast to cry and a kiss.

SPEAKER_02

One after the other. I wouldn't I want to hug you, but I can't because I'm restrained by this mic. But I love you more than life. You're very welcome. You have no idea how quickly I will eat these. And I buy these for myself, by the way. And eat them. Do you? Yes. Well, there you go. Alone.

SPEAKER_01

A little snack for the deer.

SPEAKER_02

Why do I get a present?

SPEAKER_01

Everybody gets a present. I like giving a present. Wow. Figure out what you like, and then hopefully you did it well.

SPEAKER_02

You appreciate it. You did it well. Yeah. Ginormous version of my favourite kind of thing to eat. What do you what's like why do you like them so much? Okay, I'm gonna tell you actually. Okay, go on. I'm gonna break it down. So olives in itself, fantastic. But Perello have made some sort of secret, sensational sauce that they put the olives in. Right. And when I say I could drink it, if I did drink it, I would die of dehydration. Like in Indiana drones when they're drinking the thing and it they turn into bones. That you would die if you drank all of it, but I could. Have you ever drank a martini before?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of martinis.

SPEAKER_02

No, there's you you go straight for the olive though. Yeah, and it with this in it, you're never gonna go wrong. Except if Beth's drinking it because she's not gonna like it either way. But if you like martinis and you like an olive in it, I like an olive.

SPEAKER_01

I don't I'm not do you? Yeah, I like an olive. Do you know about the olive um theory? No, tell me. About in a relationship, one should like an olive and the other shouldn't. It's a good sign. Are you screwed? Yeah, both me and my girlfriend love olives. She's French, so could she likes posh food? I mean, maybe it's not true.

SPEAKER_02

What about you? Does it work for you?

SPEAKER_01

No, we're both we both like olives, me and Viv.

SPEAKER_02

We're both fat.

SPEAKER_01

It's never gonna work.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Viv and my girlfriend, who I will not name, you need to stop liking olives because me and Beth, me and Beth have decided we're gonna be the ones that like olives.

SPEAKER_01

It's true. Then we're fine. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel weird being on the other end of um being interviewed?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I feel I do feel uncomfortable about it. Do you? I was thinking about this today because I've built my whole career about making it about other people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I honestly, even now, if people come up to me in the street and they're like, oh my god, I'm like, why do you care about me? I don't get it in a way. Which is you're brilliant. Oh. Now you're good at what you do. Thank you very much. And that's good coming from you because we did do an entire like I guess. We did, yeah, yeah, show together. Well, not every episode, but that was scary. That was the scariest job I've ever done. Really? Yeah, probably. Because footballers are scary guys. Um, but not for the reasons you think, more because you guys are so athletes in general. I can make any celebrity giggle. Let's be honest. I can do something weird, I can talk about fancying Darthmall or do something freaky or say I'm a lesbian. Darth Moore! Yeah, and it and it it makes, you know, I can make celebrities giggle. Footballers and sports people are sit like you guys are doing a serious thing. And I was literally like, they were like, Oh, we're gonna hire you to do the Lioness's podcast. You're gonna go out there. So I'm out there. Imagine me, I'm out there with like elite athletes while they're like, and I'm like, oh, where have you been?

SPEAKER_01

And you like literally just played a game. You did great. Thank you. Like it was very like you got a lot back from us. Well, you just said that. Serena loved you basically after. Serena did Serena did compliment me.

SPEAKER_02

It's not and no, but I I had the time of my life, but it was a scary job to do because I wanted to make it good for you guys because you were literally you needed to not care about what I was doing. So it needed to be an environment where you came in and had a nice time rather than it being, ugh, gotta go into Switzerland. It wasn't though, I don't think it was. And to be fair, where we were was beautiful Switzerland in the dolder. And in the five star hotel.

SPEAKER_01

It was very, very nice.

SPEAKER_02

I know because I had gym access. Nice! So I would go to the gym and just and just be amongst the rich people. I could smell Mark Zuckerberg from five feet away.

SPEAKER_01

When I tell you the people in there were insane, we went and the we had like a sauna. Did you go into the oh yeah? Well, you are a brilliant presenter, I've said that to you already.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, and it means a lot, and you're a really brilliant footballer and presenter.

SPEAKER_01

I'm working on that one.

SPEAKER_02

No, I think you're really working on it. I'm actually I tell you one thing, Beth. I was so excited for today because first and foremost, I say I will say it, Beth is one of my favourite football players.

SPEAKER_01

Am I? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I like you a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

As a human being. Um, and I am so excited that you're doing this, Pob, because you're so funny, and I don't think people see it, except for when obviously I'm doing interviews with you because I do bring that out, but I feel like we need to see more Beth Mead.

SPEAKER_01

Serious Sally sometimes, isn't it? You just gotta be in like media mode.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you've just got to do your job, which is fine. True.

SPEAKER_01

But we need a bit of saying the wrong thing sometimes and then it gets me in trouble.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think you do. Sometimes. I don't know, man. I don't think you do.

SPEAKER_01

I think you I think you appreciate it. Other people sometimes don't.

SPEAKER_02

I do. I want to hear more. But you're nice to be around, and I think that's why you're why this is great that you're doing it, because you're just nice to be around. So it's it's and I think as well, when we did the Lionessers podcast, it was basically showing you girls who you actually are because there is they are just a gorgeous little almost group of like you're not school kids, but it's that energy because you are all together all the time, yeah, you play games together, you learn together.

SPEAKER_01

Like over the full tournament, it's a long time to be around the same amount of people. Like it is but we all come from like such different backgrounds and walks of life, and I think it's nice like in them opportunities you get to get that out of us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and it's and I think that's why this podcast is so fun, because we get to see that side of the way.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true, true. Well, you're an amazing podcaster, we've said that. Um, but you did nearly go down a slightly different route in life. Did I? Did you possibly wanting to become an actor? Oh, yes. In all of them.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, my role. I really want to release that. Why not? I can't find the C D Rom because it was so long ago. ROM. CD ROM. Um, I loved acting so much because it gave me a chance to be the centre of attention.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_02

I am a Leo and I grew up in a household where no one cared about. Like obviously my family cared. Nobody cared about me. But you know, I mean, I was the youngest child who was really loud and had ADHD, and so everyone was like, shut up. So when I would perform, it would be like my everyone had to be quiet and listen to me. Um, but then I went to uni and I studied it, and basically I'm just really good at being sort of versions of myself. And I guess the level of act the level of sort of good at my job I wanted to be, I don't know that I would have made it in acting. Yeah. Um and the thing that I love the most is getting to know people like in day-to-day life, one of my favourite things is walking down the street and like having a random conversation with people in a street.

SPEAKER_01

So you struggle here in London with that.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like everyone's on the go. You're right. Northerners are better at that. You well, I are you are northerners are better, way better at that. But I don't care and I will force it upon you. Because I tell you what, small town, I'm I'm gonna call them small town Londoners. There's areas of London I live in, East London, in a small town area where people have lived there for like 20, 30 years. Yeah, okay. So those people, I yesterday I was walking home from the gym and I had a full-blown political conversation with two women that I bumped into because they were talking about a thing that I was interested in. I was like, oh my god, yeah. And then we became friends.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

So I think it does happen, not on the tube and not in central London locations.

SPEAKER_01

No. See, when we like where I'm from back home, we have like little village life, and you'll walk down the street. Well, you know everyone, so it's easier to talk to people, but you're like, when I've took, like, say Steph Catley, she's like, is anyone here you don't know, like you wouldn't speak to? I'm like, no, it's just normal for us up here. Well, I grew up in the Midlands.

SPEAKER_02

So I grew up with walking down the street. My mum says hello to every single, every person that's ever existed. Yeah. And I know my neighbours where I live. You know, I have that relationship with my neighbours now in London. But it's just I'm a bit out of London. I'm in zone three. I couldn't do three, then that was such an ick. I had to do two. Oh, you can. See? She's so talented, Beth. Patrick.

SPEAKER_01

Nice. It's a bit hunger games. My fingers, oh yeah. Well, you mentioned a little bit about your ADHD. Um, you obviously give a lot to what you do. Do you ever struggle with that or like burning out?

SPEAKER_02

Or do you know it's really interesting? When we did the Lionessers podcast, I tried taking ADHD medication for the first time. It was the weirdest time to choose. I was like, I'm just gonna launch this ginormous podcast um with the Lionessers during the Euros, and I'm gonna also at the same time start editing I do not, this is the perfect time. Yeah, really good time to start editing. Yeah. And um, in terms of like giving you all and stuff, because sometimes I get do get burnout, and I was nervous to get burnout during that time. Um and I would say when I'm on ADHD meditation and when I'm not, I'm not now, because it doesn't seem to change anything. I think there's a point of accepting with ADHD that there is a level of burnout, yeah, and that you kind of just have to know that that's the case and find ways. Like, for example, if I'm hosting the Brits Red Carpet, my therapist clanger, drop that one in there, or drop it in. I my therapist said to me, like, when you do stuff like that, don't go to the party, go and have dinner with your mates, because that's how I recalibrate. Is like if I'm I've just done this huge thing, yeah, I then go home and sit alone, it's not okay. But then if I go and I'm amongst hundreds of people again, it's also not okay. So just putting little things in place. I mean, do you have the same things with a big game? Like when you did the Euros and when you won and when we finished, what's what's your thing? Do you go and sit with Viv? Do you go and be alone? Do you go and be with Brew?

SPEAKER_01

I think a lot of us are really different. Um, I think even after games, because there's that much adrenaline and so much going on. And the way we played the tournament, there was extra time and penalties. Oh my god, yeah, I know. I was literally watching. We put everyone through it, uh plus ourselves, and it's a lot to like digest. I'm wired a little bit different. I'm very, very good at like I could have got back to my room and I fall asleep. And the girl's like, How? And I'm like, I cannot tell you. You're so chill though. I am chill, whereas like Kira Walsh took like half-sleeping pill and she was like off a rocker to try and get to sleep that night. It was so funny. She's Irish dancing down the corridor, but you need to go to bed.

SPEAKER_02

But that's the thing, is everybody needs to- Like everyone's very different. And I bet there were some people that sat till 2am on their own just thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01

Or they'll sit with the girls and talk about the game and what's just happened. Um but like the new apartments are hardest. Yeah. The ones that were doing their first ever you're gonna be. Yeah, but then you could always like Lucy Bronze is someone who'll analyse everything of what's happened, and she'll sit all night and stay up. So I mean, after the tournament's different, like you party, we weren't Did you come to the party? You were the party. I went to the parade in the morning. Yes. As in in England, the party in England. Well, we did the dolder party after.

SPEAKER_02

No, I wasn't invited.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02

I should you should have asked to be on the guest list. I should have. You didn't ask any of us. I know. Serena would have invited you. I know all Serena and I obviously besties. But next time, I really hope they bring it back for the World Cup. They should, surely. I re- Well, they might choose someone else, which is completely obviously fair enough. But I would if I come back for the World Cup, we're going out and we're gonna go to a carnival. I was gonna say that'd be sick in Brazil. You need to get us to the final, and we need to go to a car. Sorry to No pressure. No pressure, but if you could get to the final of the World Cup, that'd be great. I mean, we've done it before. We've done it before. We'll we'll do it again.

SPEAKER_01

We, we, we'll do it again.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know what in the hotel people used to think that I was because I'd come and wear like vaguely looking like kit all the time because I was on the show. People would be like, oh. Yeah, you weren't like the gear. Yeah, because I know too. Because that was but that was all the gear and no idea. People would be like, Oh, well done. And I'd be like, Yes, I know, I've done really well. Thank you. Because I'm a lesbian and I'm wearing football kits, they were like, Are you in the lionesses? It's all mixed together, it's all mixed together. Well, there's some, you know, there are some lesbians in the lionesses. There's small than some. But yeah, I always corrected them and said, I'm not in the team, but I am working with the team. Not you, like pure athlete looking like a lioness. I was just in the gym, like, oh, I'm not in the team yet, but I'm waiting for the call.

SPEAKER_01

Probably needed you the way we were playing sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. I you won the Euros, Beth. Don't worry about it. I did. I don't think you need me. True. Also, I would I would be horrific. On I I I will be I'll you'll see at the end of the show.

SPEAKER_01

You'll see. Well, true, very true. Um, it's okay. We've got people that we can beat on the meter bod.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I did also say at the beginning of the lioness, the beginning the beginning of the tournament. I was like, by the end of the tournament, I'm gonna be able to do 10 key uppies. Never did it, never even tried to do it either, never practiced. I was too busy focusing on looking like I was a lioness in the hotel.

SPEAKER_01

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just like. But don't worry, I I did correct people because I know people get funny about that. I corrected people if they ever thought I was a lioness.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think you're lying. Lioness. Lioness. Well, speaking about lesbians in the team, you are obviously openly a lesbian. Yeah. Is it nice that you're freely able to feel like that and speak about that?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it is lovely, and I'm sure you can agree, it's such a complicated thing for everybody. Yeah. Um, I think at the beginning of my career, I thought that I shouldn't. Because I I came out as gay at 22, 23, because I didn't really know I was gay. I was 21, I was a bit similar. I had a boyfriend, he was fantastic, really got me through a very difficult time in my life because my dad passed away when I was 17. And then went to uni and sort of was like a bit, you know, kooky, as we all are in our early 20s. Figuring it out. Figuring it out, came out as gay, and then when I started to do this career, I was like, oh, what if everyone makes me into the gay presenter? Because that's what they did with people. Um, it was kind of like a, you know, that was the the vibe at that time. Um, well, it felt like anyway, in media, that it was like this person's presenter, but it was more like this gay presenter is doing this thing. And then I and then I got comfortable with myself and realised it was actually sort of a niche. It was sort of because people always would meet me and be shocked that I was gay at that time because I guess I looked a bit femme or whatever. Um so I'm very grateful to be able to speak about it uh openly and and also to use it as a technique to make other people comfortable with queerness that maybe wouldn't have been before. Because like being in mainstream media, being on the radio, being on tell, and being openly gay is really powerful. I think I think the same for you, really.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I think with our industry it's been accepted quite quickly, and you feel more comfortable for a longer time.

SPEAKER_02

Whereas Do you think because I think there's still I think you don't come out because they don't want to be more so male ones, there's probably a lot of them around.

SPEAKER_01

Well, statistically, literally, yes. Time of recording right now, Pride Month. Yes, Pride month, what does it mean to you?

SPEAKER_02

What Pride Month means to me is I think people don't recognise how still now it is difficult to be part of the LGBTQ plus community. We see it by the way that the that the media and the government have recently been treating like trans people, for example. It is it's still dangerous to be queer. It is, yeah. Even sometimes in your own family. Um, and so we're really lucky, you and I, yeah, that we had the support of our families and our partners, and also your, I'm gonna say your fans, because I don't have any fans, but you do? Well, like your fans are probably my fans. Um, and we're so lucky that we have that that I think screaming it from the rooftops all the time is just a great way to remind people that we're here. And it is a safe place to be, but there is dangers that still come in for the LGBTQ community that mean that we need to keep things like Pride Month to remind us why it's important to celebrate our community, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, amen.

SPEAKER_02

And also, quite frankly, the gays and the queers and the lugtaquas throw the best parties on the planet. We throw sorry, but Pride Month is back to back brunch, party, brunch, another club, another club, brunch. And it's great. Bottomless brunch. Bro bottomless brunch brottiless bunches. Bottomless brunch followed by bottomless brunch. We should go for a bottomless brunch. We I've never had an alcoholic drink with you. I'd love to have an alcoholic drink. Okay, let's do it. Let's do that. Okay. Deal.

SPEAKER_01

Deal. Deal. And on that we'll take a break.

SPEAKER_02

Jordan Banjo. Oh really? Calling out Jordan Banjo, he loves a strawberry daiquiri and just amaretto in general.

SPEAKER_01

To be fair, it's very sweet. That's me. I've got a funny story about strawberry daiquai, actually. When I first signed for Arsenal back in 2017, I was a month away from an injury. It's like signed injured. I got legend and signed injured.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's that me that shows how good you are that you can sign. That's like me signing a contract when I lost my medicals then, though.

SPEAKER_01

They didn't do that much stuff then. Right. And I signed and I got back and I was like, I'm gonna have to prove myself now. They've signed me, being this like good goal scorer, blah blah blah. So I was trying really, really hard, and I was having a worldie in this session, and I got too excited, and it we got I got played across and I went to get on the end of it. Should never have got tried to get on the end of it, hit the keeper, flew over the top of her, broke my collarbone. One of the worst pains I've ever ever had was on one of them little whistle things there. I was like off my cuckoo. And then wait, what's a whistle thing? You mean it was um what well yeah, a pinkaler thing. I forget the name of it, but it was I was away with the fairies. Anyway, uh, got surgery, was a little bit depressed because I was like, I'm now injured again. I've just chimed this team, blah, blah, blah. Took myself to the slug and lettuce with some of the girls. I'm nice. It's the classy bird I am. No, but you are, and I love you. Two for one cocktail. Ugh, bliss. Strawberry daiquaries. 14 strawberry daiquiries later. My lips were bright red. You'd think I had lipstick on. Ill the next day, was meant to go in for a rehab, but had to tell them I had to dodge a burger.

SPEAKER_02

Well done you for lying, because you should never admit that you ate 17, drank 17.

SPEAKER_01

No, 14. 14. Don't put any more on that list.

SPEAKER_02

It's bad enough. 14 strawberry daiquiries. That was not good, eh? You that no, I had like probably had the shades from the sugar.

SPEAKER_01

And I literally was sat there. There's one picture I've got of mine with bright red lipstick. I'm going on a night out with you to the slug and less.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Two four cocktails, are you kidding me? We weren't we're not spending hardly any money. Have you heard about this? The Harriet Rose quiz? No. Oh, yes. Well, I saw I I know I know the concept of it, but obviously we don't know where this is going to go, so you don't. Let's up. How well do you think you know yourself? No, not that well. I know the problem is I know you well. I know other people well. So if I actually quite, when's my birthday? Oh, I don't know that. Oh, let me guess though. Go on then. What star sign you are? Taurus. No, I was thinking.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I thought you wanted that so you could figure out what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's why we get on. You're a Taurus. Taurus and Leo notoriously get on. Argue, but get on.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not an argumentative person, though.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's perfect. I am, but I wouldn't give you anything back. Which is why we would argue, because that's the that is the argument. Yeah, itself for not giving you anything. Yeah, my girlfriend's a Taurus. Trust me, I live this every day. Fair, okay. And my dad was too, so I'm surrounded by them, but I love them.

SPEAKER_01

Fair.

SPEAKER_02

Anyway, carry on. Ask me about me, Beth. Please make us about me.

SPEAKER_01

Should we go into it then? You've got three questions, possibly a bonus question. Oh. I added this one myself, so I'll be disappointed if you get it wrong, actually. Okay. Okay, first question. You once said in an interview that was the job you wanted as a kid. What did the blank bit say? Oh, so you once said in an interview that blank was the job you wanted as a kid.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I thought I I feel like it would be acting, but maybe I said something. No, it's not. Okay. What was it? What did I want to be when I was a kid? Oh, detective. Yeah, well done. Sorry, yeah. Why? Yeah, I are you joking? I still want to be in the most kind of. I still want I want to go back into acting and shout out Agatha Christie again. I'm doing everything I can to get into an Agatha Christie. I'm manifesting it. I also know some of the producers. I know a director of Agatha Christie's. I am doing everything I can to get an Agatha Christie. Do you feel like have you seen Vera? Brenda Blin. AKA Vera. Blin. Um, last series for her. I know. Really sad. One of my favourite shows.

SPEAKER_01

It's very good, huh?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I love Northern people. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_02

I'm akin to North. I'm a Midlander.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Even though I don't sound like it. No, but I don't know if I class that as Nar.

SPEAKER_02

But it's not North, it's the Midlands. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_01

But you're claiming the same the Midlands is North, no? These London. It's not more north of London. Fair. Right. Fair enough. That's what I was saying. Fair enough. Where would you class as the North?

SPEAKER_02

From? Girl, I don't know what the map is. Leeds, Manchester, Durham. Durham. Durham. Durham. Durham.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. Okay. Second question. Tell me. You have a cat, Lenny, that you were obsessed with you've spoken to in Spanish? Yes. How do you say cat in Spanish? I only speak French.

SPEAKER_02

And I don't even know it in French. What's cat in French? Shat. Sha. Shat, you know. She said. Shat. Is it not shin dog? It's not a swear word, it's not a sharp. Not sweet. Shendog. Shin dog. Shat. Um, okay. I'm doing that, you know, like um thinking thing.

SPEAKER_01

To be fair, detective came into you the brain at some point.

SPEAKER_02

So maybe it will. Um can you give me the first letter or is that not loud? G. Starts with G. Girodeng dari bamboo. Is that it?

SPEAKER_01

No. Then it is it. I mean, I'm gonna say it as if I know. Giros. That's Greek. That's Greek for what? Gairros, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's not Greek for gyros.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, but like was it chicken pitter? Yeah, correct. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Now we're turning it into the best meat quiz. Okay, I don't know. Is it tell me? Gat gata? Gata? Gata?

unknown

Oh, gata.

SPEAKER_02

Gata. Gata. Well, who knew that? Because I did Spanish as a kid and I've never heard that.

SPEAKER_01

I bet you did learn that though. You always learn dog and cat. Yeah. Like you do. Isha. You worked on The Mast Singer. Can you remember who won the last series?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, um, Keisha Buchanan. As? What was she? Uh Moth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Moth.

SPEAKER_02

Is that why Moth was? Moth. She was really good. So no one forgets a sugar babe.

SPEAKER_01

Fair. Fair. What did you do?

SPEAKER_02

Um, I was the host of the after show. So what I would do is. Sorry, I don't watch my singer, that's sorry, but that's okay. Although, let's get Beth Mead on Marsinger. Has anyone ever suggested you might have been a Marsinger that you know of? Because sometimes people tag you in the comments being like, that's Beth Mead. Not that I've seen. Okay, well, let's get that rumour started. Yeah, most people can't sing that they're on the Mars Singer, babe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The Marsinger is not about singing quality, although Kju Bikana did win, who's an amazing singer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true. Well, you got two out of three, but I'll give you the bonus one. This is who was the guest with me on the podcast that you did in Switzerland? Who was with us two of us? Did you only do one? You did two.

SPEAKER_02

You did two episodes. I did, but you can guess one of them. Can I tell you who I think who the two people in my head that I think it is is Lucy Bronze. Yeah, that's who I guess have one, but the other one I know for sure. But sorry, can we have a moment then? For the fact that I remember. Yeah, well done. And the other one, I think I think it is that you did one with is Alex Greenwood. No. No, you didn't. Okay, well, I got it right because I said Lucy Bronze. Yeah. So suck on that. Sorry, I don't know why I got that. That's the problem. But that's the problem with me, and why I can't, I'm not allowed to play games. Because I ruin it for everybody because I get I get like that. You've just done a lovely game for me that's so nice. And in the end I said sorry. I'm gonna have to ask you to leave. Yeah. And I agree.

SPEAKER_01

Goodbye.

SPEAKER_02

I love you, Beth.

SPEAKER_01

Please, please forgive me. Okay, I'll give you one more chance. Okay. The other person was Lotta. And we were talking about her mother, remember? One of can we just have a moment forever for interesting humour.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting humour.

SPEAKER_01

Unique, unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02

Let me let me sit in a room and listen to her speak for a day. Honestly. Somebody give her a TED talk. Give Lotta Woben Moy a frickin' TED talk right now. No. Do you remember we drew each other? Yeah, you was it was not good from you. Did I not just give you a warning a minute? No, I know. And that's that's why I shouldn't play competitive sport. It's actually why I'm not a four. You know, because why I'm not a liner.

SPEAKER_01

This isn't one to be that competitive.

SPEAKER_02

You know where everyone's like, oh, did my ACL? No, I didn't, but basically I'm so competitive that everyone wouldn't want to play with me.

SPEAKER_01

I'm actually wear like that though. Like, and we have training sessions where Serena forgets the rules and a lot of us are wanting to kill her. Oh, because you guys are nuts though with games. Yeah, we are. Like it's who was I with? I fell out with her the other day, literally in that camp. Because you Well, my team, we do the it's called Rondo, where it's like a possession game and you score. Yeah, Rondo is? Yeah. And my I was captain of my team. Right. So no pressure for me. We won every game. No one ever wins every game of them. 12 points won. We do this thing called the Caban Cabana Cup and you get a point, and then at the start of the next camp, she puts a point system on. They didn't decide to do it on the day my team won every game. But the next time we did it, they did that and we didn't win. And I went to her, sorry, where's the inconsistency of dinner? And she went, I choose. And I went, Well, I can't say anything anymore, can I?

SPEAKER_02

I see that's and again, that's where I would fall to being a lioness because I would screw I would storm out and have a storm.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I said that's too much inconsistency, and that's all I gave and walked away. Right. And that's good, that's boundaries. I don't know if it is. I think she still wanted to kill me that I said that. Yeah, but that's kind of hot. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02

Boundaries boundaries are hot, and Serena's hot, so it works. That's the opening podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Serena is hot.

SPEAKER_02

She is really. I don't want to sexualise Serena though, but if I were to, I would say she's I fancy her.

SPEAKER_01

Dominant woman. Boss.

SPEAKER_02

Is that okay?

SPEAKER_01

I think she'd appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02

I think she's a she appeals to all. She appeals to me and to all. Something about is just lovely. Okay, another person I fancy had a crush on as a kid was Bruce Willis. Just gives energy of like, I know, I love Bruce Willis. But it's like there's certain people who have an energy that you're like, that's just attractive.

SPEAKER_01

Because of what the because of what I guess having confidence. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Nigella Lawson, crush on her. Trying to think of other people. Susan Sarandon, crush on her. Very powerful woman. You know? Yeah, fair enough. I could spend the day listening to powerful women that I fancy, but I'm not going to.

SPEAKER_01

Fair enough. Well, you have had some powerful people that you have interviewed, big celebs. Has it gone wrong at any point? Have you ever been nervous? Have you had a moment?

SPEAKER_02

Well, this is the weird thing about me that people probably don't believe, but I don't really get nervous. What I get nervous about, I don't get nervous for meeting people, because to me, you are just a person. Like anyone that I meet, whether it be like Celine Dion or my milk person. I speak to everybody the same, is the point that I make. And the thing that makes me nervous though, and tell me if you are like this with football, because you've done football a million times. But when you do your job in it, like I remember when I did the Brits Red Carpet for the Brits for the first time.

SPEAKER_01

It's the second time you've dropped that now.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's the only job I ever get.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. And it's not a bad one to get.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I I I feel scared because of the unknown of not having done it for them before. So I'm not scared that I'm going to be able to talk to people. I'm not scared that I'm going to know what to say. I'm just scared of not knowing what's about to happen. And that is a thrill.

SPEAKER_01

It's a thrill. Yeah, no, that's fun. I don't like that in football. I like the controllables.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So do you feel like though you've played football a million times, but you get nervous because, say, for example, World Cup, it's in Brazil. You've never played in Brazil.

SPEAKER_01

You've played a million times, but it looks so different every time. It's not like a script scripted thing. Yeah. You'll never see a same football match.

SPEAKER_02

And that's the same with what I do. I know that sounds weird. No. I don't really script it. So I'll script it to an extent, but what I do by scripting it, I'll just learn everything I need to know about you. Yeah. And then we can have a conversation. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Um, but I do myself when I'm gonna do something that I've never done before. No, fair enough. When I host the Brit Awards, manifesting, I will probably poo before, hopefully not during. That's a lot of pressure though. I would love it. That was my dream.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's sick, but like fair enough. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Do you reckon that's one thing that you want to do then? Is that like a bucket list?

SPEAKER_02

That's my dream job, is hosting the Brits.

SPEAKER_01

What do you what like just of what it is? Yeah, I'd love to do it with Jack Whitehall. Yeah, Jack's cool. I did a skit with him for the Euros.

SPEAKER_02

He's great. He's very funny. He's really funny. He's I I think he's a brilliant host for the Brits, and I think it'd be cool to do it with him because I've got quite a good music knowledge, and I feel like the two of us together could smash that. He's not asked. I'm bitching myself. This is a cold open pitch.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, fair enough. Go and get it out.

SPEAKER_02

Jack, if you need a co-host, um, I'll do it for free. I'll do it for free. Because that's my dream. My dream is getting to speak to people like you every day. Honestly, the thrill I feel, even being as a guest on your podcast, I just love it because I I admire you as for what you do, and I love talking to people about stuff that they do and who they are. It's easy for you.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you can see how excited you are.

SPEAKER_02

I genuinely just love it. I'll leave here and be like, that's why I do my job. Fair.

SPEAKER_01

Well, speaking of your job, you've just launched your podcast earlier in the year, by the way.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

What made you want to start it?

SPEAKER_02

So I've worked.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you've just told me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, well, yeah, but also it's because I've I've worked for other people for years. And there came a point where I was being asked to not do long form. So to not have deeper conversations, to not have people, people now the way the world is, it's very clickbait-y, which is great. Like there's nothing wrong with that. But I wanted a space where I could pick and choose and have long form conversations with people and deep conversations with people, where we could go from silly to dark to deep to sad to happy. And I felt like it was the time to be a big brave girl and do that on my own. Because I had a great time at KISS, but leaving KISS was absolutely the best possible thing for me because it's given me the opportunity to do what I absolutely love to do and do it on my own terms.

SPEAKER_01

That's cute. Thanks. That was nice. Thanks. You put that together.

SPEAKER_02

When I'm genuine, I'm quite it's quite shocking, isn't it? Like when I'm not being silly.

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean both all sides of you. Thanks. No. So I have a dog who I love very much, I mean. She has a pain in my ass as well.

SPEAKER_02

Well, she's a she's a beloved member of the team. Yeah. Have you been there with her before? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Have you? Yeah. And thoughts? Gorgeous. Was she in there? When we did it in St. George's Park, wasn't she there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, she's gorgeous. She's like a what what kind of dog is she? Cocuspaniel. Oh, cocoespaniel. Sorry, don't just say cock.

SPEAKER_01

She's a cock.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's neither of our brands to do that. No.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_02

I let steer away. But I do have a coco spaniel. Yeah, but she's off brand. But she's a girl, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Fair. You have a cat Lenny who you love?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. What type of cat? He's a Burmese. Burmese. Burmese. He's beautiful. What has he added to your life? Um, well, I'll give you an example. This morning he came in with something sticky on his foot, and I gave him a bath, and that adds to my life. Because have you ever seen a cat that's wet? Have you ever seen a cat that is wet? It is one of the sweetest things you've ever seen. Because all they're first is their skin, and they look skinny and absolutely bewildered. And it's one of the best. So I would genuinely say day to day, something new will happen. So you let him out, he's outdoor. Oh, he's outdoor, yeah. And he stood in something sticky, and and when you like that bobbers cats, if you like that. Exactly. So I got him in the bath and I washed it off, and he hates being in the bath. So he grips onto you like a child. Oh, it's lovely. It's like, oh, he loves me so much.

SPEAKER_01

Have we got any funny stories with him?

SPEAKER_02

Like about 500 million. Go on, give me just one. Um, okay, let me just think of a good one that you will like. Oh, he's yeah, he's homosexual for sure. No, yeah. Well, because he fancies his vet, and it's like it's not that he doesn't like women, he loves women, in fact, prefers the company of women, hates stompy-feated people. But when when I take him to the vet, it's a shyness that only happens when you fancy someone. So I think he fancies my male vet. Well, that's nice that he fancies vet. Miley hates the vets. Yeah, mine is always doing stuff to get himself to the vets.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Um anything in particular?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, just um again, tries to get with this male cat that doesn't want to get with him, and this male cat just like beats him up.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

It's really sad. I um do this thing where I walk into my cat. Do you do this with your dog? Where I walk in and I go, What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

What's your game? Yeah, I I you do speak to them sometimes, and I'm like, This dog is never gonna. She just Miley's a head tilter. Oh, so she is responding. Yeah, she does respond. She is by tilting the head, but yeah. I'd say ball. And she's like, Do you wanna go to the toilet? Do you want to go to the toilet?

SPEAKER_02

Do the words you say when you need to take it to the loo, because everyone has different ones.

SPEAKER_01

I go, Do you wanna go for a wee-wee or a poo-poo? And she goes, I think I do.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. I've heard go pee go poo. What do you say? Um, nothing because cats just go on their own because they're independent animals.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I don't like that though.

SPEAKER_02

I need neediness. Oh, I don't. I like my Miley being needy. No, I like the fact that he is half needy and then half. So you're very much a cat person then? Yes. As a human, I I'm more of a dog because I'm quite like love me, love me. But the kind of people and the kind of animals are.

SPEAKER_01

So dog and dog wouldn't work. Dog and cat. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, there's plenty of TV shows out there. Is there a specific one you would like to go on? Like, strictly.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, traitors, traitors, traitors, traitors. I would I'm I hate liars. Like, I hate liars. But what if you were picked as a traitor? Even better. Can't hate myself, can I? Don't hate when I lie. So would you go into Claudia and be like, I want to be a traitor? You know how, like, yeah. You know how Alan Carr was a bad liar, but he was amazing at lying because he's so genuine. Yeah. That's me. Not that I'm I but what I mean by that is I'm bad at lying, but I'm I'm good at like blah blah blah, what's going on?

SPEAKER_01

Like all- I feel like that's what he did really well when he said he had to he's had to say he wasn't a traitor, and started laughing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's a diversion tactics expert, and I think that's what I'm good at. Um, if I was a um faithful, uh friendships are getting lost in there. Put it that way. You saw how I reacted earlier when I said suck on that to you after getting the question right. True. It's it's it's it would let's just say it would make good telling. You do my tits in a thing. Yeah, yeah. I would have a physical fight with Stephen Fry. Do you know what I mean? That's the vibe. That's the not the fry. And I and I respect him more than most. Um, but if he came across me and tried to accuse me of being a traitor.

SPEAKER_01

And you were.

SPEAKER_02

Or even more so if I was. Because that's the other thing. It's like when you're in when you're in an argument with your partner um and you're wrong, but you you double down.

SPEAKER_01

It's always the gays that win, actually, isn't it? Yeah. Steven did in the other episode.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, and the there was a girl that won and she was a lesbian. Gays are always winning traitors. Sneaky, sneaky know how to lie. Get me on the traitors, I'd love the traitors. Um, I would love to do, I'd love to do strictly and I'd like to do I'm a celeb, but I don't know, I don't know how good I'd be.

SPEAKER_01

I'd like to do I'm a celeb. That's one I'd like to do.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, pitching it now, I swear down. That would be good, dude. Credible TV. What job we're getting? The dunny, both of us. You know for a fact, and I would be gagging on you, and I would say every day I'd say, You're gonna have to do it. I would take you up there and I'd go, Beth, you're gonna have to do it. I'd be up there. I'd take you up there. I'd take you up there and I would I would end up being like Beth, I will give you half my porridge if you do the dunny. We don't get porridge, we get rice and beans. I'd be so thin by the end. Oh, I think you and I would be a formidable tea.

SPEAKER_01

No, it would be good, we'd be fun. Um but would you be allowed to do it this year? I don't think I'd be allowed to do it till I'm retired. You might have to wait, you might have to wait for that. That's okay, I'll wait. I'll wait. Wait for me.

SPEAKER_02

I will. Honestly, I would wait for it because I think it would be I think there'll be dance routines, you and I, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're gonna have to keep the cam going, I think.

SPEAKER_02

And because you're chill and I'm not, we've got that right energy, and yang.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'd be like to simmer it down. Everyone's in a mood today, you yeah, you'd be like simmer.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we'll see. We'll see how far in we get.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it depends how hungry I am. How many bushtucker trials you've done. I would, I would, I want to do the bushtucker trials. I'm thinking about balls for the first time. It's just not my brand, is it? So it'd be nice to try something new. Yeah, fair. What about Fishai? Again, similar to balls.

SPEAKER_01

So the pop after you.

SPEAKER_02

I was in my uh I just got a little gag in my throat there because I thought about that.

SPEAKER_01

Good telling you though. Yeah, that's so let's go on to how would you like to be remembered?

SPEAKER_02

How would I like to be remembered?

SPEAKER_01

Both in your career and personally though.

SPEAKER_02

Like it doesn't have to be. I would love to be, it's a no, it's a great question, and especially merging the two because they're the same answer. I would love to be remembered for making people's lives a little bit better.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

To just in any way, what my goal was when I what the reason I didn't want to act, right, in the end, was because I wanted to directly, and I think actors do directly enrich people's lives, but I felt for me, my sole purpose on this earth is to make people smile and make them happy and make them laugh and make them comfortable in situations they're usually not comfortable in. I feel like we're like the same. Yeah. I'm like that. And like as soon as we have a new teammate, I'm like that. And that is why I said what I said earlier, which is you're such a nice energy to be around. You're such a lovely person for new people because I was a new person. Yeah, true. I was a new person coming into the Lioness's camp as um a quase lion. You were coming into the den. Yeah. Coming into the den. The dolder den. The dolder den. And you welcomed me with open arms. And I think it's not like, oh yeah, you're just saying it's cringe. It's not. I love being cringe. Make me the most cringe person on earth. If I walk away and you're having a rubbish day and you say to me, Oh, I'm doing this interview, but I'm really feeling rubbish, and you walk away and you're smiling. I'm like, give me more of that. I want to make you feel good. I want to make everyone in this room feel good. I want everyone to leave and be like, that was a nice experience with her. And it is, it is something that brings me to tears, which is so weird. But I am like ADHD, so my emotions go like up here and then down here. No. But I feel things so strongly. If I have an interaction with someone in public, like a random interaction, they don't know who I am and I I don't know who they are. Um, and I can see that whatever I've said or done has made their day a little bit better. Truly, that is the best drug on earth.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's I always say that. If you make someone smile, it's like an it's none. Like it's good.

SPEAKER_02

And you must feel that with your fans because they are so dedicated to the drug. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like even we I met a couple of the kids yesterday, and mum was so nervous to meet me, and when she walked away, she was so happy. And I'm like, that's why you do it. Can I say something deep and maybe a bit dark?

SPEAKER_02

I don't I don't know whether it's something to do with I lost my dad when I was young, and I know that you've experienced a very big loss of your mum. And I do think there's part of you that changes fundamentally. I think it gives a lot of perspective on life. And do you think that it just it's giving me goosebumps now? Because it is some it's it fundamentally changed my whole life when somebody that I loved so much died that I then had to be like, I need to bring that love that I feel. It's making me want to cry. But it's it's like bring that love that you were giving to him and give it to everybody else because that's the only way you can it can like yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think that was like yeah, I was a I I think perspective hit me big. Like I was very, very close to my mum. Like, I loved her to bits, and she was my best friend, and and your biggest. I have so much, yeah. And I had so much love for her, but I also am like it's weird, life goes on, but you can also move on in life in a different way, and I think that gave me perspective on being like, do you know what? I'm gonna be a good human, I'm gonna love, I'm gonna give you the best version of me I can each today, and I think yeah, that was I mean, you like you said, you know how it is. It's like that person is ingrained in you to then give to some other people.

SPEAKER_02

It's beautiful, but I think there's a there is something that comes with grief that you you end up you can go two ways. And I feel like you've it's it's it's just a weird thing that it's unspoken and you can't explain it unless you experience it. You can't explain it unless you've experienced it. But that's what drives me. Yeah it's like he was my dad was very, very charismatic, very funny, and people love to be around him. And so when I do my job, I feel like I'm him, you know, like I'm that you're living it through like your father, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

100%. Final question. If you were making a movie about your life, who would you like to play you?

SPEAKER_02

This is a really great question. Um, and you could you could say multiple people, um honestly, one of the actors who who I think is just unbelievable and it's impacted my life. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I'm from Stratford upon Avon or near Stratford upon Avon. Um, Judy Dench. I want Judy Dench to play me. Nice. We both got grey hair. She's she's really naughty. Like, yeah. If you've ever watched stuff of her, her best mates are all these like like and she's got a lot of like gay boy friends. Um, and I feel like she's naughty, she's fun, she's iconic. And when I I went to see her live recently, she did this thing um, and she like recited Shakespeare, and lots of people have seen her do it. But like you can't recreate, you know, when someone's got something that you can't recreate, there is nobody else that could be Judy Dentch. Yeah, fair. And she's known the world throughout, and it's not like she's she's not like in every film or done everything, but what she has done has resonated so hard that the world knows her name. And the world, she represents the UK. No, fair.

SPEAKER_01

And so Judy Dunch is that's your woman.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but Judy Dentch made me. Plus, she lives near my mum. Oh, nice. So I have actually seen her in real life, and I fan, I never fangirl because I don't really feel that. I don't know why, I just don't. Yeah. Um, but I fangirlled when I saw her.

SPEAKER_01

Nice woman. And she said hello. Hello. Hello. Is that a good answer? No, fair. Yeah. I like that one. Right, you can eat your olives now. No, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. I've loved this.

SPEAKER_02

It's my favourite podcast I've ever done. Really? 100%. Oh, thank you. Yeah, questions were amazing.