Stripes & Stories
What faith, life and personal relationships look like for a husband & wife’s lawn care & landscaping business.
Stripes & Stories
Stripes and Stories - Episode 8 - Yipping & Yapping
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Alright gang, this uh episode is brought to you by is that horse? Horse roots? Morse roots?
SPEAKER_00Horse.
SPEAKER_04Beef tallow kettle chips. Um if you hear me crunching, just know that I'm enjoying a little snack arrooski. But uh you got the striped daddy, Jake's lawn care, Southeast Michigan, alongside me.
SPEAKER_00See, baby.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna need you to like we're down to one mic. We're missing the windproofer. Mozzie ate that. Is it gone or did he eat it?
SPEAKER_00What doesn't he eat at this point?
SPEAKER_04So we're literally going back and forth with the mic. So this is commitment. Hope you guys uh appreciate what we got going here for you. Um so Catherine, tell the peeps how you're going viral.
SPEAKER_00No, come on, we're not talking about that.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. All right, you anyways. Um Catherine started a TikTok. I'm not gonna give any more details, but uh you find her on socials. Pretty cool what she's doing. So all right, babe, what are we talking about today?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, you're the one that uh wanted to pod.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but you're the one who always has the great ideas.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I got nothing today. Oh, actually, I do have something. So we were supposed to go on a family trip this past week, weekend, um, from Thursday to Sunday, or uh with Jake's uh dad's side of the family um to the Ark in Kentucky, which is for anybody who doesn't know, it's a replica of Noah's Ark from the Bible. And it's very cool. It's like supposed to be like a life-size model of it. There's also like connected to it is like the creation museum. So just a really cool experience for um anybody who is in the faith and who knows of the story. I mean, you feel like even if you aren't in the faith, it would be kind of cool for somebody to see. So, anyway, we were supposed to do that, and then a couple days before the trip, all of our dogs became down for the count. Mozzie had this lump on the side of his leg from a bug bite. Uh, Doodle got an apparent leg injury and she was limping on one leg.
SPEAKER_04She needs to go on a GLP one.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04She's like so overweight and eats everything. Like, when we go on walks in the evening with Stinky and Mozzie, the trash will be destroyed. What do you like 80% of the time?
SPEAKER_00Like with a barrier in front of it, which is usually like Stinky's high chair, that's in front of it, and she still manages somehow to get into the trash and eat whatever is in there.
SPEAKER_04Yesterday it was Andorge yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yesterday it was shrimp tails and lemon and a cocktail sauce. Apparently, she just went to town on that. So, um, and then our third dog, Jittle, she had a growth on her butt that we had to take her in just to get it checked out and make sure that wasn't anything of a larger problem. Because Mozzie likes to talk about a pain in the ass, yeah. Yeah. Mozzie likes to um sniff her as she walks by. So that needless to say, and she hates Mozzie. Her barking at him every five seconds is literally could drive somebody to to drink. Um, so that was going on with us, and then uh to just top it all off.
SPEAKER_04But it actually worked out because and it was very fitting. My dad said that it literally rained. They thought they would actually have to get on the arc because it just rained Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So we didn't miss much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But at the same time, it's like it would have been nice to spend time with family. So uh just to add to that, just like icing on the cake, when we decided not to go and that we needed to stay because like we couldn't, you know, leave anybody with three problems essentially. Mozzie has reached his his the extension of his skeletal growth. So he's 135 pounds. Last time we talked, he's probably a little bit more now, but 135 pounds. Skeletally, he's full grown, he's almost 18 months old.
SPEAKER_04Most of you know he's a great dane.
SPEAKER_00Yes. And for great Danes, you're not or any big breed really, you're not supposed to neuter them until they're 18 months old because they want them to get to full maturity. It can cause issues with growth, um, hip dysplasia, which they're kind of already known for. Um, so he has started to hump pillows.
SPEAKER_04Out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_00Out of nowhere. Literally an overnight sensation that he decided to do. And then he was home with me on either Wednesday or Thursday. And I get a I go upstairs after I was feeding stink and six of the pillows on her bed are just destroyed. Like he took all of the fluff out of them, and it was just a fluff everywhere. It's like there's a movie. What is the movie where the person is like they have sticky stuff on them and then they blow is it parent trap? When there's the scene when she walks Oh, because they spill the honey.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they spill the honey.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and then she gets the fluff all over her. Like it literally looked like that, where like anything you just walk into the room and you just get hit with like feathers.
SPEAKER_04So oh, and then at home alone, too. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So um, we've been just having a time with all of our animals.
SPEAKER_04And like it's totally fine if Jittle has to be put down. We're okay with that.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we're not gonna say that out loud.
SPEAKER_04You were thinking it.
SPEAKER_00And we, you know, she's just an old dog. She's 10 now, and she is kind of um, what's the word? Just like crabby. She's just crabby all the time.
SPEAKER_04I'd say she's a bitch.
SPEAKER_00And it's just becoming like more and more apparent that like, you know, this is not something that we're in it for the long haul.
SPEAKER_04So if you guys, any of you listeners, I don't even care if you're not in this country. Um, if you are interested in a Krabby, is she 10 or will she will be 10?
SPEAKER_00She'll be 10 at the end of July.
SPEAKER_04Um, so if you're interested in like a Krabby Beagle that she doesn't dumpster dive like doodle. What's the thing? Okay, just stop. No. What's her new house?
SPEAKER_00Just stop. So she she's just got her issues. And you know, you get a dog in the beginning, and you you know, you want to be there for the good and the bad. And this is just one of those things where we're in the bad moments at the what I think is the end of her life.
SPEAKER_04I don't know why you're saying we're in the bad. You decided to get two beagles nine and ten years ago. I don't know what you were thinking.
SPEAKER_00You married me, which means that when we got married, you inherited the measure children. So I don't know why you're acting like this is new information.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_00So, anyways, anyway, guys.
SPEAKER_04You normally come up with the topics.
SPEAKER_00That was our past week. Um, so I had um, I still took the time off work that I already had scheduled. And we're in a phase of work where there's a new, there's new management, which always, you know, there's issues always with new management. But like my work, none of the work that like was supposed to be taken care of while I was gone was. And so super frustrating, especially when like I was telling Jake earlier today, I feel like I'm doing them a favor by staying on until the end of July, which originally like I was only gonna stay till the end of June, which means today would have been my last day, or tomorrow would have been my last day. Um, but I, you know, agreed to give them until the end of July, and to like just have all of your work like not covered for you while you're gone is just a really big slap in the face. So along with that, Jake's also had some issues at work. Do you want to share what your issues are?
SPEAKER_04Um so we got rid of a team member last week, right? Was that last week?
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_04Um just didn't work out. A lot of uh communication errors, and I wouldn't even say communication, I would say receiving. With this person, yeah, receiving communication.
SPEAKER_00Well, I wasn't necessarily talking about that, I was talking about the conversation that you had to have today with the team.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, just like putting out some fires and like trying to manage others with other people.
SPEAKER_00Um wouldn't you say that like you're to the point where now it's not just like you're talking to a buddy, it's like you're actually trying to create a cohesive work environment for everybody involved that like fosters community and like you know friendship, even I would say.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and like I love my guys, they're they're awesome.
SPEAKER_00I would and everybody has flaws, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, they probably think I have so many flaws too as a leader. Um but I mean I'd go to war for any of these guys, they're awesome. Um but yeah, there's just little nuances that you have to continually continually improve on. Um like the big thing right now is tardiness.
SPEAKER_00And so I just Which we talked about a couple weeks ago. It's like pretty common in your industry.
SPEAKER_04So it's just like I told them today, I was like, look, I totally understand. Let me quiet now what you're saying. Um, I totally understand if something comes up in the morning, right? Like, I'm a dad, I get it. Like sometimes when I'm trying to head out the door, you're like, yo, he just exploded in a sniper. I need help.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or like a week or two ago, I was like, is there any way that you can come home a little early? Like I have a really bad migraine, and yeah.
SPEAKER_04Or I just had a real shit day and he's being a little SHIT and I need help. Yeah. Um, but like from the morning standpoint, like I understand that you might be running a couple minutes late, or there was traffic, or there's a tire issue. Like, I get it, because I've been there. I can be on the road and like a tire blows. Like, totally understand. But like consistent tardiness, it's just in my opinion, so disrespectful. It's a huge lack of time management, and showing up early or on time takes zero skill. It takes none.
SPEAKER_00It's a pretty fundamental thing that you either have or you don't.
SPEAKER_04And like you know exactly what the traffic is like because you've been coming in for 12 weeks. So don't give me the bullshit about like traffic or whatever. Um, so we had addressed that, and like I was just telling the guys, like I totally understand once a week or something like that, you might be delayed. Let us let the whole team know in the group chat so that way we're in the know. But I said, like, if you're going to be later than 20 minutes, obviously text the group chat, and if you are at all pushing the 30 to 40 minute mark, don't even bother showing up. Because it's just like the whole point is to generate revenue. If I don't have a truck on the road, we are generating zero revenue. So we had to have that conversation. Um, just talking about driving style as well, like what else?
SPEAKER_00General like cleanliness of the vehicle that you're working in.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we came up with a game plan for how we're attacking the interiors of the cab and stuff twice a week. Um just like stuff that I didn't even think I would need to have a conversation with, but like the fact that I'm telling men I'm not your fucking mom and like clean up your shit. It takes 40 seconds, and I have trash bags in the trucks, like the truck bed is not a dumpster. The back seats of a single cab are not a dumpster. The back seat of a four-door is not a dumpster. Just clean up your stuff. Um, and then like just talking about how like if you guys have family plans or something, like I love that for you guys. I think that's awesome. Something to look forward to. Great. More than likely, if it's for a holiday or whatever, it's pretty much on your radar. And so, like, let me know if you have a long weekend planned for the 4th of July or whatever, but like letting me know halfway through the day that you might have to peel off early.
SPEAKER_00The routes are already established.
SPEAKER_04That's not gonna work, right? So you have ideally, I would like in a week notice, but anything less than 48 hours, tough shit. Like, sorry. And I understand if there's an emergency, you know, your kid's sick or whatever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're not talking about emergency.
SPEAKER_04I'm talking about like, yeah, I got I got this party tonight, and I think I'm gonna have to get off early.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or like I want to go camping for the weekend. Can I get off a little earlier?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like no. So just like addressing little things like that.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's crazy because like I didn't feel like I needed to address it either when I was in like the corporate workforce either, but there were people who would be like at four o'clock the day prior and be like, Yeah, I need tomorrow off. And you're like, What? And there were like repeat offenders to where you didn't really think that you needed to have the conversation of like, yeah, you need to be requesting your time off like at least 24 hours in advance to give the whole team time to prepare. Right. I mean, but then again, you know, the people can just call in sick and then you can't do anything about it.
SPEAKER_04At this point and in this stage of JLC, you're not just affecting me. You're putting more workload on six other people. Like, that's not fair.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's the same thing we experience with the truck, where it's like when one person doesn't do what they're supposed to, when they don't give you a loaner vehicle, like, look at all the dominoes that fall into place. It's like the same concept. When one thing falls, everything else falls too. Yeah. And I think that when people, when it's not like their company that they're running or they're not in management or whatever, or they just don't really care that much, like this kind of stuff just falls to the wayside. And it almost makes you question like, do you even want to work here?
SPEAKER_04Like, or is this just 90% of the workforce? I feel like this is yeah, the 90%. And we're so used to you being a manager, me running my own thing. We just we thought that maybe like people hold themselves to a different standard, but like I'm feeling like this is just normal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I get like I wonder how do big corporations actually get stuff done.
SPEAKER_00But I also wonder like if it is normal, because I was listening to a podcast the other day, and it was um uh with Alex Cooper, the founder of like Call Her Daddy and the Unrolled Network and stuff. And she was talking about because she's had like allegations against her company that like it's a toxic workplace.
SPEAKER_04Is this the girl that sits on the couch and like she's interviewed like Kim K and stuff?
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah. And so she, you know, they she I think it was like an interview with the Wall Street Journal or Vanity Fair or some big publication, and they were asking her, they're like, you know, do you feel like it's actually a toxic workplace? Or do you think that this is just where workplace culture is now? To where immediately when there's something that they don't like, they call it a toxic workplace. And it actually begs a good question of like, is it just the general laziness of the public that like when you're expected to stay at work until you complete a job, or when you sign up to work a job and like it's weekends and it's weeknights, like that you just decide, oh, it's just like a toxic work environment. Like, no, it just requires you to work hard, and also this is the job that you signed up for.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so one, that's the culture we live in. Everybody is so soft nowadays, and no one wants to put in a true 40 hours, everybody throws out the word toxic, I feel like, but like it makes me think of dumb and dumber. I can't believe there's not one single job in this whole city, yeah, unless you want to work 40 hours a week, and no one is willing to actually put in an honest 40 hours, so that's like that's a story in itself.
SPEAKER_00Do you know what I feel like catapulted that though? I feel like COVID catapulted that because people were getting paid unemployment to sit at home because their jobs were considered non-essential, so they didn't have to, they weren't able to go to work, and so they just like got used to sitting at home and like being paid for it.
SPEAKER_04So during COVID, babe, um you as a W-2 employee, what was like what was like that benefit package like for you?
SPEAKER_00What do you mean?
SPEAKER_04Like, were you getting anything from the government, or was it no, you're just gonna work remotely, keep going with your 40 hours? How was that for you? Because we weren't together at the time.
SPEAKER_00We never stopped. We were considered essential employees.
SPEAKER_04Oh, so you still went in? Yeah. And you guys were going shifts and with your masks?
SPEAKER_00Anything related to insurance was um considered an essential workforce. So we still were in office. We started doing like remote, like we would rotate because I think there was like six or seven of us at the time. And we would just rotate it, be like two people were at home every day. And um, or we would do like one week on, one week off, just to kind of like whatever they thought would like limit exposure, which really it didn't limit anything. But um, yeah, when you came into the office, you had to wear a mask at your desk, even though you were in a cubicle and you were six feet apart from the next person. Um, and then yeah, we had to um have the little like permission sheets from our jobs to be able to be on the road because at that time you weren't allowed to like be out and about driving.
SPEAKER_04And what a social experiment. Yeah, good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that was.
SPEAKER_04And remember how we were the conspiracy theorists?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Thinking about all this, and like, no, this is a social experiment. They're just trying to figure out who's actually gonna listen and who's not.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I like learned during COVID a really big part of like working is like advocating for yourself. Like, as much as you want your employer to advocate for you, they're not going to. And like there was a point to where I think it was like the government was taking a case above the sip to the Supreme Court of if they could make the vaccine like mandatory or not. I think that's what it was, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_04And um Well, they they read they were able to do that.
SPEAKER_00No, it got struck down as unconstitutional.
SPEAKER_04After a certain time period, but there were people who feared for their jobs they did implement it. And there were some people that I knew in my life, my personal life, that were forced into it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And they said, I need my job. Yeah. And then there were people that I respected that said, fuck this, I'm in healthcare. I'm getting the fuck out of healthcare. This is bullshit.
SPEAKER_00So when that was all happening, I went to my boss at the time and I said, Hey, just so you know, I'm not going to get the the vaccine.
SPEAKER_02The job.
SPEAKER_00And if it's required of me, I will just quit. Like, I'll find another job elsewhere. And they were like, No, absolutely, like, we don't want to lose you. Like, if anything, you can just work 100% remote if that like goes into play. Like, they had already had a plan in place for for if that were to happen. Luckily, it didn't, but you know, we were prepared. But I think that like that taught me at least to advocate for myself, which I think like it could have gone either way. Most people it taught to just like rely on the government for your money and any assistance you may need. But for me, it like taught me the total opposite. It was kind of like, okay, like this is how valuable you are, because they're telling you like these are your options. We're not gonna lose you. And then you just kind of like roll with that moving forward.
SPEAKER_04It taught me that we are definitely not a democracy. We think we vote these people in, and this is a country for the people.
SPEAKER_00No, we were told exactly what to do by people that we were tried to.
SPEAKER_04We were tried to. And The control. I was talking to Connor about this at the zoo yesterday. So, dude, what what really is the difference between China, North Korea, and us? Because when you look at some of these government mandates, especially during COVID, but even right now, we fear our government leaders. I thought they worked for us.
SPEAKER_00I don't hear them.
SPEAKER_04Well, I know you don't, because you actually think logically. But there are so many sheep in this country that just want to fall in line.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I don't want to piss off this person or this.
SPEAKER_04You know what? Oh my god, the government's telling us to do this. And what did Ronald Reagan say back in the 80s? What is the biggest? It was either lie or statement that you should never trust. We're from the government and we're here to help you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I think like that kind of goes into the differences between the political parties. I mean, for the longest time when I was growing up, there were very clear pillars that differentiated between the two. Like Republicans were for low taxation. Um, they were for small government, they were for religious freedom, they were for um, you know, no abortion. Like there were very distinct pillars of differentiation between the two parties. And you could still sit at a table across from somebody and like have a disagreement, but you could still be friends.
SPEAKER_04And now people just scream at each other.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, now I feel like it's so um, what's the word? Divided, like jumbled together to where if you don't like one thing about a political party, it's like, oh, I can't be friends with you. We can't communicate. And it's just like, why is it like that? We can't just disagree, and then people were like, no, it's like fundamental difference in character. Like, no, it's not.
SPEAKER_04No, it's not, it's not at all. No. How about um the riots that were happening when bur um buildings were being burnt and stuff?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like, it's interesting to look at how the left handles situations when they get upset. And I'm not saying that the right doesn't have its crazy people, it definitely does. But it's very interesting to see how much less destruction happens and how much less screaming matches happen at a table when you have someone on the right who's just asking a question or challenging the narrative, and then the other side, they're screaming at you.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think a perfect example of that is the Charlie Kirk assassination. Like, nobody on the right, as far as I know, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody on the right was burning was burning down buildings because he got murdered in broad daylight. And that's not to say that some of this stuff doesn't happen and you don't see it in the news, but I truly feel like the news has caused such a divisive part of our culture. Because, like, there was a study done, I think I read this like a couple years ago, and there was a study done that people said that before mainstream media became super popular and it was accessible on your phone, you know, wherever, like you would go to anybody on the street, black or white, and they would say that racial discrimination is not that big of a problem in America. Correct. And now you watch like mainstream TV, and that's all you see. That's all you talk about. That's all they talk about. It's literally so divisive. And you know, I'm sure there are times when it is very apparent and places that it's very apparent. Um, but it's just crazy that like, you know, to think of where things stood when I was younger and I was growing up, like my parents in church, there were plenty of people who were Democrat, and there were plenty of people who are Republican. And we all went to school together, we all went to church together, we all could get along and put that aside and just love the person for who they are as a human versus whatever their political party is.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, it's just so interesting. I love seeing the uh some of the parents that I have on Facebook, mostly educators, um, and just seeing the posts that they share. One, I don't know where they're getting their information from, but it's almost comical that they're sharing some of the stuff that they're finding. But when you look at some of this thinking, and one of the ones that just cracked me up to no end, this woman was talking about how our whole system is broken, and when we focus more on uh what are the oh my gosh, my brain I'm fried from the heat today. Um when we focus more on monuments than people's identity, referring to gender identity. Um and then we also focus on how was it worded, but like we're a country that doesn't even give moms um maternity leave. And I'm thinking I'm laughing family leave. And I'm just like, wait, wait, wait. You had maternity leave. Was it way too short? But were you provided maternity leave by your company?
SPEAKER_00Uh I was provided two weeks of maternity leave.
SPEAKER_04And then what was it after that?
SPEAKER_00Uh short-term disability. Okay.
SPEAKER_04So then was it marked as short-term disability? And um the whole like I don't understand this obsession that our country, the small percentage has with gender identity. I don't give a shit if you want to have sex with a wall, the same sex. Uh you live your life how you want to behind closed doors. It is your own life. I'm not gonna agree with it, but hey, you do what you want to do. And I respect you for that. You're living your true self. That's cool. But when you're no pun intended, forcing it down my throat, why why do I have to like say openly, I'm okay with that?
SPEAKER_03Or I'm I'm so proud of them for living like cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, can we move on? And that's what I'm loving, at least when I'm seeing um in the male homosexual category, they are like hugely against the LGBTQ plus monarch, anarchy, plus plus, minus minus movement because all they wanted was just the right to get married and like live their life peacefully. Yeah, like that's all we needed, and the amount of guys that love Trump, I think it's amazing, but it goes to show the Bible's very clear about this in end times, and I'm not talking, you know, I'm not saying the world is ending, but it talks in Revelations, it says the wrong will be right and right will be wrong. I mean, could it not be any more accurate biblically? I mean, we are persecuting people for standing up and saying the right thing and doing it, oh, you want to take okay, you take an overall. Oh, you're holding the mic?
SPEAKER_03Um I'm just so baffled at this obsession that we have right now. I don't get it.
SPEAKER_04And didn't correct me if I'm wrong, I might not know my history correctly. If you're not, if you don't know your history, you're doomed to repeat it. But wasn't this a huge gender identity and transgender and all this kind of stuff? Wasn't this a huge obsession right around the time of Hitler taking over and stuff?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember if it was at the time it at that time, but I know that history is typically cyclical. And so it very possibly could be. I think the problem that we have is just that like we become so tolerant that everything is considered intolerance. And like, you know, you're allowed to feel how you feel, I'm allowed to feel how I feel. We can disagree, but by no means do I have to sit there and agree with everything that you're doing. Am I gonna like say something when I see you on the street? Like, no. But you want to live your life and just like I want to live mine. I didn't want to get a vaccine that I didn't feel like, you know, was healthy for me to get and that I didn't trust wasn't gonna give me COVID and like I wasn't gonna get any side effects. And that was my whole purpose. You can do whatever you want, but you aren't gonna tell me what I have to do. And that's the problem, is that everybody wants to just control, control, control. And it's like about time that we just sit there and like stand up and say, like, absolutely not. I mean, prime example of like all of these taxes that people have right now, and um, you know, everything is getting so much more expensive. You have these old people who have their houses paid off but are a threat to losing it to tax foreclosure because they can't pay their taxes. And it just like is terrible that like by the time your home is paid off, you're telling me you still have to pay taxes on it to the government while you're paying taxes on anything you eat, anything you purchase, anything you sell, literally anything that you do, you get taxed on, whether it's coming or going. And it's just crazy that all of this is happening, and like nobody is thinking, I think people are starting to wake up, but like nobody has thought that it's odd over all of these years that everything has just become so much more expensive, and the government just keeps keeps wanting their hand in everything. Like, I'm a huge proponent of small government, like I think that anytime there's a a huge bill that is passed before you know when we're dishing out over X amount of dollars, it should have to go through the majority of the country.
SPEAKER_04And also follow the breadcrumbs, these bills. If you look in the 600 to a thousand pages that they're proposing, 90% of it's not going to what they are putting it. So it's just like the games, the corruption, the lobbying, it's so disgusting.
SPEAKER_00It's like, yeah, I'll throw support for your bill, but you have to include this little clause that my grant that I've started gets a hundred million dollars or whatever.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but it's it's gonna come to the point where I think people will actually just stop paying taxes in general, and I hope they do, because the government can't keep up. The Andy Frasello talked about it. It would take them four or five years to track you down to even remotely start the audit or whatever process, and everyone is so scared of the IRS. These people are just pencil pushers. That's all that's all this government that's it's all it is.
SPEAKER_00Well, we even like were thinking about this because I would love to have chickens in our neighborhood. And why are you laughing?
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00So I would love to have chickens, not a ton, obviously. I'm not trying to have a freaking farm, but I just want to have like we eat so many eggs, like I think it would be really cool for Zeke to learn how to take care of something. So I'm like, okay, maybe like four or five chickens that just produce enough eggs for us to like have on a daily basis.
SPEAKER_04Do you know me? That would be so many eggs.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, we get behind, then we can get them all eight.
SPEAKER_04I'm just telling you, like, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_00But what I'm saying is that I don't want like 50 chickens, I want just a couple. Yeah. And so we were asking our neighbor who has a couple chickens, and I asked him, or Jake asked him, he was like, you know, are these black market chickens? Are these black market chickens, or did you is this like something that you're allowed to have? And he's like, No, Waterford Township doesn't allow it. And you're like, So you're telling me that on my own property that I own that I pay a mortgage for every single month.
SPEAKER_04And my taxes go up every year.
SPEAKER_00And my taxes go up every single year. I'm not allowed to slap a friggin' chicken coop on my property and have chickens. Like, what the hell are we doing in America?
SPEAKER_04And then Brad told me about selling the what he's like, just sell one egg and then you're golden. And he said, Well, not even that.
SPEAKER_00He said that the the Michigan Right to Farm Act or something like um supersedes any municipal laws, but at the same time, it's like, why do you have to go through that fight? Like, why can't I have a few chickens on my property?
SPEAKER_04It's not like we're in downtown Birmingham trying to start a chicken.
SPEAKER_00Even so, even if you were in downtown Birmingham, you should be able to do that. It's your property.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you pay for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it's just so frustrating because it's like you're constantly told what you are and aren't allowed to do, and everybody to Jake's point thinks that it's just normal that you're like, you can't do this, you can't do this. In order to build our um pole barn that we're building on our property, you have to get a survey, then you have to apply for building permit, then you have to have site photos, and then everything has to be a certain height, and I get it, that's for like safety purposes, but also it's a lot of freaking red tape and expense that you have to go through to put an improvement on your property that is going to increase the value of your home and all of the homes around it and increase the attractiveness from a potential buyer.
SPEAKER_04Then they have everything written down, right? They have the blueprint, then they make sure, okay, yep, it all fits within coding, and then they gotta send some hanyak out again to just double check. Like, bro, we we have the plans to inspect it once it's done. Yeah, like we're good, yeah. It's it's all set. And then you gotta wait on that moron to come. It's just yeah, I'm so over government controlled. But meanwhile, municipalities.
SPEAKER_00We have a um, we have a uh a poured patio on our house off right off. What a good point! Yeah. And it was permitted by the city, by the township, and it is sloped in towards our house to where we have pools of water that whenever it rains, there's pools of water outside our sliding door on our patio.
SPEAKER_04Now, but the red tape of getting around that, because that wasn't necessarily a patio to enjoy, it was in a potential extension/slash addition to the house, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was the foundation.
SPEAKER_04But what's even funnier is that they have all this red tape for all this bullshit that you want to do on your property, like you said, but you don't even need to slope it away from the house in the time being. Yeah. And I get it, subfloor and everything will change that. But like what you're telling me, you want to have all these conditions and you want to be a pain in my ass until this is built, but the fucking cement can allow water flow towards your home. Okay, cool. Yep.
SPEAKER_00So, all of that to say, the point that I was trying to make is that building inspections mean absolutely nothing because like the guy came out and probably just said, Yep, looks good. Well, this is exactly the amount of foundation, you know, whatever inches it has to be, however much it has to go into the you're about two inches over on your uh your width, but we'll let this one slide.
SPEAKER_05And then of course normally I break, I make guys break this up.
SPEAKER_00And the worst part is that like every time somebody comes out, like you're the one that's paying for it. So you're paying for the surveyor to come out to draw up the plans to get to the part where you can even apply for a permit. They charge you a building permit application fee. That's like $150. Then you have to pay the inspector that comes out to inspect it. And it's like, okay, so this thing that I want to put on my own freaking property, not only am I paying for the cost to construct it, but now I'm paying $1,500 in fees just to get the township to give me the freaking green light to put it on my property? What the hell?
SPEAKER_04All the meanwhile, they can't even fix the roads.
SPEAKER_00Not even that. All the meanwhile, drive down any subdivision, and you've got people that basically have trash in their front yard. Why don't you spend your time focusing on people who have refrigerators on their front porch instead of the people that are actually trying to make their house look nice and build things that make it look even better to where they can store stuff? It's just totally ass backwards. And that's the like part that really bothers me is that it's getting like so much overreach to where it's like, what? I can't even pee without the government telling me if I can't afford it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's just I could go so long-winded on all this stuff, but like we gotta have Connor on this podcast because he said that would be like six hours long, yeah. You guys getting together, but at the same time, like Connor's so freaking intelligent and he thinks so far outside the box that like I feel like I've answered these questions in my head, and then Connor takes a whole new spin on that, and you're just like, Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. Or it could lead to that, and it's just everything is so ass backwards. So, for instance, he sends me this thing on Instagram and it's this surgeon, and he's I don't know what his specialty is, but that surgeon is I mean, he's shredded, he's in good shape, right? And he goes, Let's see what they're serving up at the cancer hospital today, and he goes to the cafeteria. You should just see the disgusting trash that they just serve in the hospital.
SPEAKER_00A place that's supposed to heal you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Talk about ass backwards. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00Well, not even that. And then they charge our insurance company $300. When I was in the hospital having Zeke the day after I had him, the morning after, um, Jake was, I forget what he was doing. I think he was like letting the dogs outside and like feeding them before he came back to the hospital to um hang out with us. But um, so I decided, I'm like, okay, what's the pancake? Yeah. What is the least thing that's like hospitally food on the breakfast menu that I could get that isn't gonna taste like processed crap that's actually gonna be like maybe okay to eat. So I decided, okay, I'll get like a like a I'll get some pancakes.
SPEAKER_04And your appetite was not great. Because I was asking you, like, what can I bring you? And you're like, I'm gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_00But you're like, you're like, okay, like I'm gonna start nursing soon. Like, I need to like feed my body. So I was like, okay, I'm not gonna ask him to come and bring me breakfast. So I'll just get something really quick. So I ended up ordering some pancakes and a fruit cup because I was like, oh, that's like healthy. I don't need the syrup, but I just like you know, a pancake carbs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So an hour later is when I got my meal. It was a single pancake the size of my palm with no syrup, which I didn't want anyway, but like still, I mean, come on. And then the a fruit cup, which it was a pre-packaged dull fruit cup. They billed my insurance $180.
SPEAKER_04Well, they tried.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, they tried and then they negotiated it down, and then yeah, insurance. Negotiated to like $20, but still tried to charge my insurance $180 for a meal that's crap.
SPEAKER_04How was the pancake? Terrible. Was it burnt?
SPEAKER_00No, it was cold by the time I got it because it took them an hour.
SPEAKER_04Was it like thick and gross or was it like uh cakey? Was it yummy?
SPEAKER_00It was kind of cakey. Oh, yeah, but it was cold, so it wasn't really like kind of lost.
SPEAKER_04Just didn't tiple your fancy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it just lost its its flair.
SPEAKER_04As you, as Catherine would say, it left something to be desired.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So, anyways, we kind of got off on a tangent this episode, just kind of yapping about current events and things that we've experienced in the the past couple of weeks, but I guess the lesson is that always be advocated. For yourself, guys, and whether it's work, whether it's relationships, whether it's when you're fighting with the frickin' township to try to get a frickin' chicken coop on your property.
SPEAKER_04And I feel like to advocate for those who can't do it for themselves. You know, I don't I don't care about this situation, so I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. But like I've got my grandfather that's trying to sell his house, right?
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04Do you not want me to go there?
SPEAKER_00No, because I feel like you're gonna get off on a tangent.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. Yeah, I just got a dumbass uncle that I mean he thinks he's Mr. I mean, well, he is Mr. Know It All. He's never made a mistake in his life and he knows everything. So just to give you guys an idea, I would say the house is valued at somewhere between 580 and 620. And uh so they did two interviews. My dad brought in his realtor, and then my uncle, who is the eldest brother, brought in his realtor. I mean, just a fucking clown, just like my uncle. And uh so the appraisal came in at 700,000, which is a joke in itself, and then my uncle didn't even want to share the full appraisal uh with my father, and sends him the first page of the appraisal and goes, uh, here you go. Like dad says, Yeah, no, I'll take the full appraisal. Why? Uh because I'd like to read through the appraisal. Well, you don't need a you here's the number. Yeah, again, I'd like to just read through it. So this clown for his realtor, um, they come in saying, Yeah, we're gonna list above appraisal, we're gonna project the market, and uh they listed the house at 750. My dad's realtor, um, who I also know is a powerhouse, um, she wanted us to think to start at like 580 or whatever and create a bidding war and get less.
SPEAKER_00That's a strategy that helped us both sell our houses within the past two years.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So um and uh what are we at?
SPEAKER_03Day 24?
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_03Houses in on the market. Uh they've had two open houses with five people and uh two showings scheduled.
SPEAKER_04And my grandfather, it's a classic, you know, senior citizens lived here, needs a lot of updating and great bones, great house. Yeah. Um, but you know, some the next buyer has to put a lot of money into it. And uh so it's still sitting at 750. So if you guys are in the Rochester Hills area and you want a walk out ranch with about 150 grand that you need to update and uh give me a shout and I'll uh get you the listing. But it just it goes to show my dad tried to advocate for his father. My dad doesn't need a fucking penny of my dad's inheritance or my grandparents' inheritance.
SPEAKER_00I think it's very evident that the other side needs a little bit of inheritance, but the fact that you're not even listening to the market, the market is speaking, not even listening to the market, but you're also not listening to the other realtors who have given you feedback at your open houses and at your showings that are saying this house is priced too high. I work in real estate title insurance, I see this kind of stuff every single day. And I have asked multiple of my agents who work in that area, is this price too high? And they said yes.
SPEAKER_04Well over a hundred grand too high. Yes, yeah. And like it's to the point where my dad and I just find this comical because my uncle wants to be the control freak that he is, and he wants to be right about everything. So learn your lesson. The the house won't move for another three or four months. They're gonna, I think, take it down 25 grand.
SPEAKER_01Woo!
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's that's really gonna help. Um, but he's shooting himself in the foot. And like, I just wish that, like you said, advocating for other people. Like, I've had a conversation with my grandfather, I had a conversation with my father, my dad had a conversation with him. Like, we are not at all forcing you to do anything, we want you to decide what you want to do, Papa. But then when you have someone who's actually a control freak and forcing the situation and manipulating the situation, which I think it's very funny, familiarity breeds contempt, and we're not gonna go into that any further. But when you have someone that does the fake advocation, it's so clearly evident, versus like we've had a conversation with Papa, my dad has had a conversation because you know he this is stressful, right? He's he's a widower. This is one of his largest investments in his life. This is his legacy, and all he cares about is leaving it for the family, which I think is so sweet. But like where was I going with this?
SPEAKER_00You're talking about advocating for yourself, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, but like, you know, the guy's gonna be okay for several months, right? Like, he's got money stocked away. But like, this is a good chunk of change for him. And I hope and pray that the house sells for whatever it sells for. And I hope he burns through this money the next 10 years. I hope he lives another 10, 15 years and there's nothing left. And then my uncle's thinking he's sitting on this pot of gold and just boom. Because my dad and I have had a conversation. Gramps, don't worry about the money. Like, if you're getting a little low on money and the house doesn't sell right away, we got you covered. Like, we're not worried about you, Grandpa. Like, take a breath, it's gonna be okay. But we asked him, are are you wanting to sell the house quick and you know, for a good price, or do you want to maximize? Because with maximizing, you are taking a risk. You're gonna price it higher, you're looking for a unicorn buyer.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_04Hopefully, it sells.
SPEAKER_00Well, here's the problem. The problem with the way that they did this is the house is listed at $750. It probably needs realistically, not right away, but in the total scheme of things, it needs probably about $150,000 to $200,000 worth of work. And you don't need to do it right away, but you can chip away at it and do that. But when you're asking a price of $750,000 and then you're putting $150,000, let's just say the low end, $100,000 even. Yes, we're at $850, you're telling me that that house is worth $850,000. Are you outside of your mind? The math ain't math. Yeah. Like, there's a difference between being realistic and being like a little bit ambitious. This is like you're living on frickin' Pluto with like what you think that this house is worth.
SPEAKER_04I mean, this is a man that's just desperate. You can just tell, uh, you'll probably been leeching off my grandpa's whole life, continuing to leech.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think that this is just showing like the power of control, and so many people just live their life just wanting control over everything.
SPEAKER_04Like a lot of people in government.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And it's just like, it's like, first of all, why? If the best interest is for the house to sell and the house to sell in a reasonable time, like you want to create an anticipation. And first of all, everybody knows that the market right now, there's way there's so little homes available, and there's so many buyers.
SPEAKER_04So Which are automatically st economics, the price is driven up.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So in all reality, like you should be able to um this should sell in its sleep. It should sell in one weekend. When I had my house for sale, it sold in a weekend. When Jake had his house for sale, it sold in a weekend.
SPEAKER_04Boom. And you made $100,000 on your house, I made $97 on mine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And so you made $120. So the thing that is just frustrating with that kind of stuff is like, you know, yes, there is a good market right now, but also like, you know, just get it together. Like you're playing with other people's livelihood. And I think that's the part that's the most irritating for Jake and his dad is that you're just playing with other people, and you're doing it so flippantly that when people are actually coming to you with like true concerns of what's going on, you just basically are like, Yeah, you know, the market's gonna take a little bit to catch up. No, the frick, it's not. Other experts in real estate are telling you that the house is priced too high and you're not listening. And Jake's dad brought up a great point today. He said, if somebody really thought that the house was worth $7.25, don't you think that seeing it on the market for 24 days, they probably would have offered $7.25, hoping that they would get it. But no, they didn't because it's not even worth that. So, anyways, advocate for people around you that can't advocate for themselves. Obviously, don't be too pushy. I mean, this is Jake's family, so I think he's warranted to be as pushy as he wants to be because he's got real skin in the game. Um, but just like help each other out. I feel like everybody is just so only worried about themselves, and there's not really anybody anymore that like actually cares about other people nowadays, or they're few and far to find. Like, for instance, we to build this pole barn that we're building on our property, um we have to remove an existing shed because again, township requirement is that you're only allowed to have, I believe, is it 50% or 60% of your square footage as an outbuilding.
SPEAKER_04Livable space at the ground level from your total square footage. Yeah. That's the max you get out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So the max that we would be able to have is I think like 868 square feet. So we have to remove the existing shed that's on our property because the pole barn that we're building is about 800 square feet. And so Jake goes on to Facebook Market and is like Facebook Marketplace and is like, if any or yeah, everything, whatever. And so he puts it on there and he's like, This is free to anybody who wants it. You just have to disassemble it and remove it off of our property, obviously. Like, just the intent is to just bless somebody else with something that you know, we put a new roof on it last year, we had all the siding painted, so like it looks really nice. It's probably like a 10 by 10 shed. And so this woman comes on, the first person who reached out to Jake and says, like, hey, I'm a single mom. I would love to have this for my kids. Okay, she didn't even say she was a single mom. She just indicated that she would love to have it for her kids as like a playhouse. They she could actually make it like an actual kids' playhouse and have a separate place outside where they can store their bikes or their toys.
SPEAKER_04She was like, I'll be in contact with my dad today, and I can hopefully be there by like two to pick it up.
SPEAKER_00And we were like, Well, we're not in any rush, like the surveyor isn't even coming out until this, I think, the second week of July. And but it just goes to show, like, when you put yourself out there to try to like help somebody else out, it comes back tenfold. Like, Jake always talks about how he doesn't like to borrow from other people, but like he's to the point where people are offering to help him when he needs help because of the person that he is. He put this shed on Facebook Marketplace, not wanting to get any money, just wanting it to go to a good home. And look at the repercussions. This woman who is now a single mom is able to have a space where her kids can play outside and have safety in their own backyard and not have to play in the front yard where they're subject to traffic and wandering eyes that are looking by, you know. So it's just like looking out for the next person and just blessing something, blessing them with something that you don't even really consider that much of value, but that you want to give somebody else. And like it made her so happy.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. I feel like I've got a new friend, I feel like I've made like a new little friend. And she was, you know, and then we got to talking a little bit about faith and stuff. But she was just saying, like, I can't thank you enough. Like, I feel like there's still good people in this world, and like you literally made my day by just having this conversation, and like I'll let you know what I hear from either my dad or like a moving company, and then we'll I'm like, yeah, just take your time. I'm glad it's gonna work out, and that's great. It's just yeah, there's just something so cool about blessing someone else and not wanting anything in return. Like it's just it's such a knowing that's going to a good home and it it's gonna help her, it's gonna help her kids. Like that's awesome. That's so cool.
SPEAKER_00And I mean, I feel like it translates to like every part of your life. Like, we have so many things that Zeke played with once, worn or worn once, and is basically brand new. Like, do you think that we're just gonna throw it away? Like, no, we're of course gonna try to give it to somebody who's in need, or just give it to somebody who we know that has recently had a baby and can you know benefit from having some stuff that's like very gently used, or even some stuff that's still brand new and has the tags on it. So it's all about changing your mind.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, changing your mind, positive mindset.
SPEAKER_04But yeah, when you focus on not on monetary items, they're not monetary transactions. What can you do for me? The whole thing shifts.
SPEAKER_00And I think it goes back to what we were saying a couple episodes ago about the power of relationships. Like the relationship that you can make, not even intentionally, with somebody that you're helping out, can be so much more rewarding than having a relationship that's transactional where you're paying somebody for a service that you're getting. Yeah, like you don't even know the people that that person knows that could refer your business, that could, you know, help you out on a personal level. You just never have any idea.
SPEAKER_04You have no idea where it could go.
SPEAKER_00What the scope could be. Yeah, you know, and and that's not why we do it though. No, of course not.
SPEAKER_04But it's just like it just opens those doors where you're just like, oh my gosh, yeah. Like uh, I was talking to such and such who got the shed, and uh I think she mentioned something about you know that she works in this industry. Oh my gosh, does she like her job? Because we're actually looking for someone with her expertise. Yeah. Oh my gosh, let me be in touch with her. Yeah, that's just fun.
SPEAKER_00Or even like the power of relationships, like we were talking about. Like Jake has a couple people that he knows from college and high school that have now started working at GM and Chevy who were able to assist him in helping with the whole Chevy situation. Like again, the power of relationships, and not that you're doing something intentionally, you're doing something to help somebody else out, and then it just comes back tenfold.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Based on how Jittle's breathing, I think maybe we might want to end this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, yeah, so we're just kind of all over the map for this one. Just ypping and yapping. Yeah, I like it. Um I I really gotta do that right versus Xmark one. I I don't know if I'm just gonna be a freak and bring my mic tomorrow when I'm lifting and just like get it done, but I feel like that's people are dying.
SPEAKER_00I know you gotta make it a video episode, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I don't know what else. Lots to unpack here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um if anything, I would just like Catherine had said, focus on helping others. And don't expect advocating for others. Yeah, and advocate for others because there's so many people that are just they're lost.
SPEAKER_00And so many people who I feel like want to advocate for themselves but don't have the means to.
SPEAKER_02Or the voice.
SPEAKER_00And like we're lucky to be able to have the means to be able to do these things for ourselves and like point out issues that maybe like the system has that we can try to like have a voice and help correct, but like some people you know, they they don't have a voice or they don't feel comfortable saying things, and like we'll say it for you if you want.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I kind of like being the black sheep. I love it. You uh man, Jittle's really struggling over there with that trachea. Um, it just is it's fun when you actually know how things operate and you see bullshit and you just call people out on their bullshit. And it's not necessarily to arise conflict, but don't be afraid of conflict. I feel like conflict is really good, and when you have someone that challenges you on something with their ideas, listen to them because they are coming from totally different maybe life experiences, they are potentially coming from totally different grounds and foreign lands that you don't even think about, that you've never even been around, and it's just it's pretty darn cool when you're challenged. And don't look at it as a challenge, look at it as an opportunity because with every issue or conflict that arises in your life, there is going to be some type of reward at the end. I can't focus with gentle breathing like that, so I'm I'm calling it. Um maybe 1050 at night, you're a trooper, worked, ATA, worked at JLC, mommying all day, made dinner. You're my hero. Oh, and he made two new TikToks. I mean, you're all over the place, babe. You're straight savage. So um I'm gonna let you close this one out and give your two cents and let's go shower, brush our teeth, and get to bed because 4 a.m. is gonna be here before I know it.
SPEAKER_00Stay uh stay cool, guys. This week's gonna be a hot one. So awesome in the 90s. No, but on a real note, like this really is like a very hot week for Michigan weather.
SPEAKER_02So in Ohio.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, I think the whole Midwest is really getting like a heat wave. So um stay hydrated, cover yourself when you can. Jake's usually will try to sit in the truck like every 20 to 25 minutes just for a little AC break.
SPEAKER_04What are you talking of? Where did you get that?
SPEAKER_00That's what you said on your Instagram story too.
SPEAKER_04I said that like you, it's nice because we get a break, like when you're going to the next site. Oh, well, whatever. Striped daddy doesn't just go in the truck to get a little AC.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, whatever.
SPEAKER_04Nah, that's your dog. That's your problem. All right, y'all. Thanks for listening. We'll catch you on the next one. StripeDaddy out. See you, baby. Out all right, ciao.