G. Edward Griffin: The Fight for Freedom, Health & Truth

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Join us for an eye-opening conversation with G. Edward Griffin as he shares his incredible journey from the corporate world to becoming a fearless advocate for freedom, health, and truth. He reveals the challenges that shaped his path, his transition from the insurance industry to documentary filmmaking, and the power of continuous learning in making a real impact.
Griffin dives deep into the dangers of collectivism, the importance of individualism, and the key differences between a republic and a democracy—offering insights that challenge conventional narratives. He also explores the vital connection between health and freedom, emphasizing the role of nitric oxide and the benefits of Cardio Miracle as a natural health solution.
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00:00 Introduction to G. Edward Griffin
01:39 Reflections on Life's Purpose
05:28 Overcoming Obstacles
10:18 The Journey into Media and Corporate Life
12:55 Awakening the Crusader Gene
15:57 The Impact of Nitric Oxide
19:37 Health Transformation with Cardio Miracle
25:14 A Defining Moment in Leadership
33:52 Spreading Awareness on Communism
34:20 The Journey to Documentary Filmmaking
37:48 Making a Difference in Today's World
41:38 Understanding Collectivism vs. Individualism
51:01 The Importance of a Republic vs. Democracy
55:03 Health and Freedom: A Holistic Approach

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Thank you so much for joining us here at the Pulse Beat Studio sponsored by Cardiom Miracle. We are so excited today to have the president of Cardiom Miracle, Jason Hewlett, with us. And more excitingly, we have an incredible guest. He's author, speaker, he's a philanthropist, entrepreneur. I mean, this guy is unreal. We have G. Edward Griffin with us today, and we're so excited and honored to have him with us today. How are you doing today, G. Edward Griffin?

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Oh, I'm I'm doing very well. You just swelled my head up there a little bit, but uh uh I'm doing great. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

That's the goal. That's the goal. So um, yeah, you know, what we really wanted to focus on today is, you know, we have had a working relationship with you for you know over a decade, and it has been just such a pleasure to watch what an influence you have and how many people you empower to take a stand and become patriots in their own right. And so I I wanted to give you a chance to speak a little bit to that, and what what has kind of what has fueled your entire mission throughout your life and and how you've gone this down this road of you know creating the uh creating your website, the realityzone.com and and the red pill, and and uh how how has that helped you uh how have you fueled that your entire you know your entire life?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Well, that's sort of like uh um reviewing your life just before you conk, you know, like what was it all about? Um it's hard to it's hard to put the perspective. I don't know if if you can imagine someone asking you the same question, where would you start? You know, I guess you'd start with that old joke about, well, I was born at a very early age and away you go. But um it's a serious question because uh I think especially as everybody gets older, they start introspecting a little bit more. They're they get outside of their skin and they start thinking about other people, and they start thinking about what happens even in the long run, long after you're gone and forgotten. And the big question always comes up, well, why in the heck are were you born in the first place? Do you have a purpose? And if that you do have a purpose, that would be cool. What the heck is it? You know? We go through life, seemingly the first two-thirds of it at least, uh, trying to figure out what's your purpose in life. And uh then sometimes you uh think you have it, and then you say, well, that wasn't it either. So I don't know. I'm sort of I'm I guess I'm stalling because I don't know how to answer your question, but I'll try. Uh I'm just uh I can really consider myself, in spite of all of your accolades and everything, it's just a very average, and I hate that word by the way, average person, because I think one of our goals is to be above average. But uh in in terms of not being um, I'm sure I'm not smarter than most people. Uh my I may have um a little bit of a a lot of good fortune in my life, and um I've I came from a broken family, but I was saved by an aunt, a school teacher aunt, and my grandmother. They kind of raised me, and um I I I was broken away from my family, and so I could have gone in an entirely different direction, but because I had such good influence uh with my aunt especially, uh, who, as I said, was a school teacher, and she used to always make sure that I had my grammar about as correct as you could get it. And um, I never understood why it was so important to have your your your vocabulary correct and your uh you know your sentence structures correct. What what difference does it make, Aunt Alice? Uh you understand what I'm saying, right? And you know, and she'd say, No, more to it than that, Sonny, and we've away we would run. So anyway, um I I am I really I I I said thank you for swelling my head, but my head is not swollen because I know who I am. I'm just another person, but I had some very good, lucky things that happened to me. And one of the things that looking back on my life, that is uh so obviously more attention-getting than anything else, is how many bad uh things have happened to me that were just crushing at the time. But in retrospect, I realize that they were the best things that ever happened to me because they forced me to go into a different direction. Had I not encountered this obstacle, and there were many of them, I think most people have them, but had I not encountered those obstacles, I would have continued on a path which I'm sure would not have been as uh pleasant to me as the ones I finally wound up taking. So uh it was late in life that I got the finally the message was coming to me, and that is uh, you know, be thankful for your obstacles, be thankful for your roadblocks, be thankful for the things that hurt, because they cause you to really focus on what you're doing. And uh so um uh after I got that idea, it wasn't so bad, except except when my computer doesn't work, then I get mad, and so that's different. But um, but all kidding aside, it uh I think most people have discovered this somewhere along their lives that um uh obstacles are not as bad as they might seem at the time because they often, if not always, lead to something that's even better than what they were seeking before. Now that is sort of my overview. Now you could look at a lot of details in that story. Um I was uh as I said, I came from a a rather bad background. Unfortunately, I was pulled out of there at about age nine or ten, as I recall, and so it wasn't it wasn't too permanent. And um I got a good education and I was raised in a uh a middle class family with good good values and uh ethics and so forth, and I I accepted those. I uh embraced them, tried to follow them in my life. I sometimes failed, and but uh you know we we always fail, and that's that's what I'm talking about. You have to fail in order to know how sweet success is. And so um anyway, um I'm sort of not answering your question. I started uh out in life as just a kid. I was lucky, and uh I was being raised in uh in Detroit, Michigan. It was a great city in those days to be raised. I I lived on the um in the middle class section of Detroit, take took a bus into school, high school eventually when I got there, uh in Redford, uh, Michigan, suburb of Detroit. That's where all the rich kids went. And of course I came from the other side of town, but uh it was it was hard because uh a lot of these kids had had cars, you know, in high school, and the seniors in high school. They had cars. I mean, cars. And I was lucky to have a bicycle. And uh I was not I was not in the inside of anything because I didn't I didn't come from that bright side of town. And I was envious of all these guys that had cars, and uh, of course, then if you had a car, then you probably had your choice of some of the girls who wanted a guy with a car. So if you the next best thing to having a car, a nice, shiny new car is is to be a a jock on one of the uh athlete teams, you know, football player, captain of the team. I couldn't do that either. My my um my depth perception, it was all shot, still is. If you threw throw a ball at me, I'd be looking for it and it would hit me on the forehead before I knew where it was. So nobody wanted me on their team. If you can't throw a ball, you can't catch a ball, you can't even see a ball in motion, and what are you gonna do? Well, that was one of those roadblocks. It was very, very hurtful not to be on the inside. And then um and so what could I do? I I took a class on speech and um they had actually had a spa a class on s on on speaking and production, radio actually. Radio was the big thing in those days. And uh so that was something I could do. The first thing you know, I was a child actor. I had been trained uh in the d in the Detroit uh system on in radio techniques and so forth as a child. They had that opportunity, and I snapped it up. So it it wasn't long before whenever um oh whenever they stations in Detroit like WWJ or WXYZ, WJR, these were all the major network outlets in Detroit. If they were putting productions on, uh drama drama productions, and they need a the voice of a child, it's pretty pretty often I would be the one that would have to go to the radio studio and and they go on the air and then my I'd hold the script and I'd say, uh, gee dad, here come the Indians, or whatever my line was, and and uh all that stuff. And I was on the Lone Ranger show. I was on the Hermit's Cave and uh the Ford Theater and a lot of those other things. I finally at the end of my high school uh stint, uh, I had my own, I I considered it my own show. It was called Makeway for Youth. It was a network show out of Detroit with uh Don Large Youth Chorus, had an orchestra and a chorus, and I was the MC, and I was a big cheese, I thought. And uh so uh okay, I came from that side, and uh I was uh I was going to go into drama, and I my goal gradually became to be the next Cecil Cecil B. DeMills, and my destiny was to go to Hollywood and produce these magnificent earth-shaking films. So um that didn't work out too well. I went to the military, and after that I went to Hollywood to try out all this, and I found out that there were a lot of people there, young people with greater talent than mine, and they were bussing table and uh washing cars and and waiting for their big chance, you know, wasting their lives really. And uh by this time I had married, and I I figured when I went to university I had to get married, so I let's get on with it. So I picked the prettiest uh student nurse on campus and I married her. So then the next thing was, well, um, you gotta have children. I wasn't sure why, but uh, that's what you have to do. First thing you know, I'm in in Hollywood looking for a job, and I've got a wife and a child, and another one on the way, and I'm running out of my savings, and I'm thinking, uh-oh, uh, the gas tank is uh running out of fuel, and if I don't do something about it, the car is gonna stop moving. So I got a real job in the corporate world, and that became my next phase in my life. I was gonna climb the corporate ladder, and I was having fun doing that. I was I decided I was gonna become the president of a large insurance company, and I was uh I thought that's where I was going. Well, then I discovered what the real world was all about, and I I discovered I had some, I had a crusader gene. I never knew I had it. Instead of just thinking about how am I looking, how much money am I making, and and do I have a a nice house, and uh, you know, how am I looking? Um, I started thinking about well, what's gonna happen to our country? And then what's gonna happen to the world and uh mankind? And I didn't know I had those thoughts. And um so I uh quit my job. My wife thought I was crazy, and uh she was right because she said, How are we gonna put groceries on the table? And I thought, I don't know, we'll figure it out somehow. So that was a rough time to go through, and one of those one of those right turns you had to make, and I was in a different world. And to make a long story short, here's the overview. Is that my life, as I think the lives of most people, was a a series of zigzags. I never, never wound up wound up where I thought I was heading or where I wanted to go. Never once, I don't think. And that it was always a good thing. And I think it's even true of me today. Uh, here I am, I'm I'm 93 years old. I I survived uh a little session a couple of years ago, which normally most people would call COVID. I don't think it was COVID at all. I don't I that's another story, but I think it was uh it was the flu, maybe a weaponized version of the flu. Took me down, I was in the hospital. They put a new do not resuscitate bracelet on my arm, the whole thing. I could I could hardly like couldn't even get out of bed. I had to be taken care of like a little infant. And I thought this was it. And um well, that was one of those roadblocks, and um I got out of the hospital, very difficult. They didn't want to let me go, and they wanted to put me into a hospice of some kind, I guess to kill me off or something, and I didn't want to do that. So if I'm gonna die, I'm gonna go home and die. And uh they didn't want me to do that, they wanted to keep me in the system because he was a cash cow, of course. Well, I got out of the system, and um the finally when I got out of the system, I started to get better. And um here I am, and now I'm feeling pretty good. Uh, that was a couple of years ago now, and I still have a little shortness of breath, but okay, I hear I'm back. And now, so here I've had I made a right turn, my right angle turn. And what I'm gonna do now is is I'm gonna save the world. And uh that's it. And um I maybe we can talk about how I intend to do that and how you intend to become part of that crusade, and um, let's get on with the job.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

No, I love it. Thank you so much. You know, and what's so interesting to me is I I don't I don't know that you're that you're following or your your people that that look up to you and follow you have heard that in-depth of uh overview, uh, you know, up in up until this point. Uh unless they have, I'm I'm not sure. But I I love it. That's why I wanted you to kind of just talk about that and how it you kind of led up to that point, and I love it. And I personally just think you are so, you know, you are such a frontline, what we call a frontline leader, where you're not sitting on a horse telling people to do what they should do. You're you're doing it, you're on the front line. And so I think that it's so admirable and such a great quality. And now I I want to kind of go back um about a decade or more when um someone waited in line for two or three hours to hand you a pamphlet about nitric oxide. Um when they did that, and you told us at one time that you you get handed stuff every day, all day at your events, and you said something was different about you had a different feeling about um that pamphlet that you were handed. Do you do you remember that when you were handed the pamphlet about the nitric oxide product?

SPEAKER_02 16:08

You know, when you mentioned it, yes, uh, but I had forgotten that actually, and I hadn't thought about it in a long, long time. And that's true. I I still true everybody wants to help me, and I'm very grateful for that. But I don't know what to do with all these pamphlets and business cards that I get, and I'm asked to be sure to call them so they can tell me about the latest and greatest uh medicine that they've heard about. And you know, these people probably are experiencing similar events that I experienced, and they're really trying to help me. So I don't I don't take it lightly, it's just that I I can't do all of that. So often I wind up just having to carry them back in my briefcase and and then stick them on a shelf someplace and then never do anything about it again. But I'm glad I acted on that little pamphlet on nitric oxide, because as you already know, but our customers are people the viewers I should say uh online here don't know about it. But I thought, well, that it's I had high blood pressure at that time. And um I was already pretty much aware that the blood pressure medicine that was the standard and still is the standard of treatment in the medical profession, that that m those medicine, those stat and drugs and that kind of thing were not really healthy. They might lower your blood pressure, but they'll probably kill you faster than a a heart attack anyway. So I I was just learning about the the toxicity of of modern medicine and how that the goal is not really to cure but to treat, because there's no money in curing. The only the money is in treating, so uh I was just learning that. It was hard for me to get over that because it didn't seem like it was right. I said, surely the medical profession, with all of the dignity that it has and the seriousness of its mission, wouldn't put money above health, would it? And it's still hard for me sometimes to realize how true that is. But anyway, I was just learning that, and then something about that pamphlet struck me that maybe this is a non-medical approach. This is non-toxic. This is something that comes from nature, and um that caught my attention. So, yeah, that's the beginning of our our story with Cardio America.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah, if I remember correctly, he uh the gentleman's name was Craig, and he handed you a pamphlet and he said, Griff uh, Jandre Griffin, we need you to stay around as long as possible. And and you took and so what I'm so grateful about is that you did reach out uh to him who contacted you with John Hewlett, our father, and um then John was able to get you some of the product, and we were able to start the process, and you've come with us as we've gone to a superior product, which is Cardiom Miracle. And um, what's so exciting about um now with Cardiom Miracle and the you know the 58 whole inorganic fruits and vegetables that we have is the way that we've been able to prove that how long nitric oxide lasts in your system and how long the bioavailability is and how how much it spikes the vitamin D, and it's just uh a fascinating thing. And so as you've gone with these nitric oxide natural therapies um and your blood pressure has really regulated out, um, you have had some health issues along the way, but how have you been able to see that nitric oxide or cardiomerical in particular has been able to help you uh kind of get over some of those health issues?

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Well, that's uh very simple. I mean, you could you could go into a long discussion of the chemistry of it and all of that, but the bottom line uh to most people is that does it work or doesn't it? And uh if it does if it works, don't don't bug me with the detail, just hand me some. I want it, you know. And uh I'm kind of like that in in the beginning, and then I get curious and oh darn, I gotta figure out how this how these molecules work. But anyway, yeah, that's how I got into it. I just wanted to know if it worked, so I'll try it and blow me down. It's it my blood pressure didn't drop quite dramatically in a few weeks. And uh I thought, uh-oh, I better pay some more attention. That's when I started to to worry about molecules and uh so forth. Not dosages, but molecules. And how does this stuff work? And are there any hidden disadvantages in the long term and so forth? So that was my education. And um, well, as you as you guys know, uh I don't normally uh talk about products that uh I think are good uh because I you know I don't want to get in the position where I've recommended something to someone and it it fails. So I want to have really first hand experience about something before I get enthusiastic and start recommending that other people follow the same path. Well, cardiomyracle is one of those products that uh falls into that category. And um and I can just say that if anybody has this uh dread of learning about molecules like I do, you don't really have to. Just be aware that uh this thing called nitric oxide, which interestingly enough turns out to be a gas, that's another issue. How how how can you have gas in your gas in your in your cells? I mean, you're not a balloon, you know. Why don't you fly around? Anyway, anyway, it's a gas, and uh and then you learn that, oh well, the gas is there and uh it causes your epithelium, which is the lining of the blood vessels, to be flexible and it's useful for this, this, this, and that too, and that's all very good. But you find out that then, well, how does this work? Who invented it? Well, a God must have. Invented it because it's in food. And uh first thing you know, you get the picture. All you need to know is that you need food. It's a food source treatment, and I love that. To me, food, food source nutrition is the only real nutrition. Sometimes it's difficult, if not impossible, to get it directly from the food, but it if you can, that's the preferred way. And I I was very uh very impressed by your father's uh determination to make sure that he found the right foods and processed them in the right way so that the nutritional components in those foods were extracted in the right way without being altered or destroyed, and uh packaged them all together and uh you know dangle the magic wand over the thing, and voila, it the synergism of all those things together, I think, even surprised some of the uh scientific wizards who were working on this. I think they as I remember the story about nitric oxide is that in the system it's a very short-lived thing, and uh you need to be producing it all the time to have the the sustained effect that you want. So you could you could gulp it down, and it would be great for maybe in a couple of hours, and then you go back to ground zero again, and you've got to keep drinking or eating or something, and that's not gonna work for most people. So then I is my understanding of it, is that in some of the laboratory studies, it was discovered that this unique combination of ingredients that your father had put together, maybe by design and maybe by accident in some in to some extent. Anyway, it happened, and all of a sudden, instead of the the effect lasting only for a couple of hours, it would last for a half a day. And then later on, maybe it lasts for a whole day. And then I think you fellows might enlighten me. I think there's been some studies even uh indicating that the effects of this now with this combination uh is longer than a couple of days. It's uh almost in the in the in the uh category of a condition change that might last for weeks, if months, and uh so forth. I don't know about that, but anyway, all I know is that if you drink this stuff every day or every other day and so forth, your blood pressure and a lot of other things, a lot of other things are gonna fall into place.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Right. Yeah, blood markers, all the major blood markers. And just to specify, I mean, two servings actually will help nitric oxide extend for 24 to 36 hours. And what what you're talking about with these previous products is the previous product that we we introduced you to in the first place. I personally had to take that product, I had to take a serving an hour in order to keep the nitric oxide in my system. And so now with what John has put together, it's just been marvelous. And I know uh Jason's got a lot to say about that as well.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

So it's been great for me. And uh I'd love to hear your story about how you saw a difference in your body, and it's so wonderful to know that you've been able to pass that on to the people that have followed you. If you don't mind though, since we do have a little extra time with you, if it's okay, I would love to go back to that crux moment of your life when you're an insurance salesman, you have a young family, and you made a choice to figure out how to take a group of people, whether it was a following you had already put together, or you just went for it and said, I need to stand for what's right, I need to stand for America's values, I want to go in this particular direction. Was there some moment in particular that that moved you to that, something politically or something uh emotionally that you can recall that you could share with us? Because I think a lot of people are in a place right now in their mind to say, I want to make a difference, I don't know how. How can I learn from G Edward Griffin? Because you're the ultimate example for all of us, to move forward into that space of leadership and keeping a promise to ourselves and to our country. Would you mind speaking to that?

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Well, I don't mind speaking to that at all, but the trouble is it's difficult to replicate what you just described, a moment that it was an aha moment. I don't think there was. That's uh that's one of the amazing things is that none of these realizations, the big realizations that I've had came like a bolt of lightning. It's sort of just rising water, you know, deeper and deeper. And the first thing you know, you wake up in the middle of the night, you say, Oh my God, the world is going to hell in a handbasket. What am I going to do about it? And uh that's what it was. That it was a it was a question of I think the whole process really was started when I was um in the waiting room of a client, an insurance company. I mean, I worked for an insurance company, I worked for the Equitable Life, and um I was in the group insurance division, and my job was to create group insurance programs and figure out rates and and features for group insurance for companies with 50 or more employees. And um, of course, as a young guy, they started me off at the bottom level. I had all the 50 and 60 companies. Uh later on, of course, after a little experience, they trusted me with a big company with a couple of thousands of people and so forth. But anyway, at the time I was dealing with small 50 employee companies, and I was in the waiting room of one of the companies waiting to meet with the president. And it was my job to to um meet with the chief executives of all of these companies uh regularly just to sort of, you know, uh schmooze them along and make sure that they knew that we cared about their product and their and their relationship to their employees and so forth. And I was sitting in the waiting room and I was early for my appointment and uh looking around for something to read. And um, you know, usually they have magazines in places like that. Well, there were no none of the usual magazines. It was just one magazine, little tiny thing like readers digest size, called The Free Man. And uh it was a little pamphlet, really, and that's all there was, and they had a stack of them, about 12 or 15, a stack of them. I thought, well, these are giveaways. Well, anyway, I picked one up and I started to read it, and I was amazed. The first article I read was the first time in my life, and by this time I'm 24, maybe 25. First time in my life I had read anything that resembled um the free market, the uh to advocate the free market. Everything I had ever read in school was based on the principle that we needed government regulations for everything, government funding, government rules, government regulations, and that government was the solution to our problems, and never any indication that individuals had a responsibility or the ability of their intellect to solve their own problems. If you had a real problem, you had to go to the government and then ask for permission to do so. Anyway, that's how I've been raised, and I had been, I thought that was the correct way. Well, this was the about turn for that. This was a this was an article that that um showed the advantage of the free market uh and for helping the little guy and avoiding coercion in your daily lives. So I thought this is really interesting. So I'm looking around and I uh I think I'm gonna type this magazine. So I stuck it in my briefcase. I think they wanted me to do it, I hoped, because I took it anyway, and I felt pretty bad about it. I found out later when I talked to the president some months later that yes, he was hoping that people would do that. And uh anyway, so I subscribed to the magazine. It was called The Free Man. It was published by the Foundation for Economic Education in Irvington on Hudson in New York. And uh it was all about the free market. And I I fell in love with the idea, it just appealed to me. So I subscribed to it. I started to collect all of the back issues. In fact, I got all of the back issues, and they for a rather sizable amount of money, you could get them bound, hardbound. So I got all the back issues of the free man hardbound. And there's I still have them in my library, by the way, and I devoured those things. That was the that was the closest I ever can think of coming to one event that was a jolt that got me completely onto a different path. And um, had it not been for that, I wouldn't have probably been motivated to think or even been able to think that there was a solution to these problems. I might have just thought it was the uh uh, you know, the normal decay of civilization, like the the decay of the Roman Empire. All empires grow, then they get old and they decay and then they die. And but then I discovered that no, this was more than that. There was a group of people who could be identified by group who wanted to accelerate this process. They wanted to destroy a system that was working because they had a better idea of what they thought would be a better system, and they wanted to destroy the free market. And so they were that had already happened by the time I was born, actually. I discovered later in my research. I thought I was born into the land of my forefathers when they fought the American Revolution for independence and all of that. I didn't realize that by the time I came along, all of that was already gone. It was already gone. We were living in a mirage. We were reading about it and thinking we still had it, but I didn't understand, you know, what to look for to know if we really had it in in essence or just a myth and so forth. Well, anyway, I'm I'm digressing. So that was something that got me reading, and I subscribed to other magazines, and I started going to meetings, and I and I just all of a sudden I eased into it, and just after a while, I okay, I'll one more step, and then you'll understand how this happened. Naturally, when you're talking about something like that, remember this is back in the 60s and early 70s. Um communism was the big threat to America in in terms of popular opinion. Uh most Americans were concerned, rightly so, I think, by the rise of communism in the world. China had been taken over by communists, okay. Um South America had company uh countries going falling to to communist influence. Uh Cuba, right off our shores, was communist. Uh Russia, of course, had gone communist. So the world was gradually going communist. And uh there was a a film strip that one of the universities, little college, produced called Communism on the Map. And I bought it, and I decided this was so good explaining this threat of rising communism, that I made let it be known there at the um insurance company that every Thursday night, uh, if anybody wanted to see this film, I would be showing it. And I got permission to do that in one of their meeting rooms. And um so we every Thursday we had a little group that would show up, and always some new faces. The size of the group was probably about 20 or 30 people would show up, a little tiny group. And um, so I started making this presentation, and then people in the Koanist Club heard about it. They invited me to come to their meetings and make the presentation, which I did. So the first thing you know, I'm being asked to give presentations on this. And that's when I started to think in terms of, you know, this is the right thing for me to do. This is closer to my training, actually, and I wanted to make films of my own on these topics, and I started to research them. And that's when I decided I would just strike out on my own, walk away from the comfort and the security of the insurance company, and um become a producer of documentary films. Well, I had no money, but that's and that's how I started it, and uh that was my my move, my motivation for the whole thing. So fortunately, that's where I was able to reach back and and um gain some advantage from my my younger uh experience with filming and and radio and communications and public speaking and all of that sort of thing. So, but back to the point, there was no great hammer that came down and hit me on the head and said, This is what you have to do.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

But your story that you just shared, both of those stories about finding the magazine and then finding the the film and the opportunity to share it. See, this is what your listeners and our listeners are excited to know about your path, is to say, can we ever stop learning? Can we ever stop looking around and noticing what's happening in our world and how can we make a difference? I love that you gathered people in order to educate them and then said, This is the direction I was coming to Hollywood to pursue in the first place, and you found another route to get there anyway. You're divinely inspired to reach out and help others to understand what needed to be done. And that's why we are so honored with your partnership with Cardiom Miracle because you're somebody who has always paid attention, always learning, and it's always giving to other people to understand what can be done and can be better. And so I think that that story you just shared with us about how your crusade began is so beautiful. What a hero's journey. And yes, it is small increments. It's not necessarily just one lightning strike moment, it is one promise kept each day to yourself in order to keep a promise to so many others. And so thank you for sharing that. I what do you think, Josh?

SPEAKER_01 36:51

No, I love I love it. And I know that anyone listening and anyone watching is going to love it as well because they want everyone wants to hear how, you know, uh I dare say a legend was born, right? Because you're you're you're you're a legend uh you know to a lot of people. And so thank you for being that example. And um, you know, I I am if if I'm if I'm blowing your head up like I want to, like I really do. So because you deserve it. Yeah. And we're so excited to be a part of that. And so I'm I'm wondering if I can ask you another loaded question on on how you believe that right now with the way the country's going, and thank goodness it's going in a direction that that you know we we wanted to go as we're at the red pill, and and you know, wanting, you know, these are you know, RFK with making America healthy again, and and Trump with making America great again. How can an everyday person make a difference in a day-to-day um life?

SPEAKER_02 37:59

There are some some several aspects to that one. Uh yeah, how how can you make a difference? And um then what is the difference you want to make is the harder of those questions, especially if you're being fooled uh by the enemy. And this is one of the this is where it gets to be tough because it let me go back to the day that we were talking about, and I was taught I was trying to convince everybody that uh communism was the threat. That wasn't too bad because as uh as I mentioned, you could see communism was taking over the world. But um what I didn't realize at the time, nor most people that were supporting me didn't realize it either, is that in the name of fighting communism back in the 60s and 70s, we were creating what it was essentially the same thing in America. In the name of fighting this awful tyranny, we were dismantling our constitutional limitations on the power government, and we were doing everything we could to make our government as close as possible to the Bolshevik government and indirectly to the even Adolf Hitler's fascist government. I didn't see it at the time. And I I I didn't see it for a long, long time. But you can see it today because one of the reasons wars are so popular is that when you're fighting a war when I say popular, I mean popular by the people that start them and declare war, not the people that fight them, but the people who declare them, um, is because when you're fighting a war and everybody's afraid of the horrible consequences of losing the war, it's very hard to be overly concerned with little niceties such as, well, wait a minute, is that legal? Can you do that? Is that does the Constitution allow you to do that? And of course, with the war, you say, well, it doesn't make any difference. In times of war, you don't have any rights. Everything is surrendered except to win the war. That's the ethic. In wartime, there's only one immoral act, and that's to lose. And you can dismantle your your system in the name of winning, and everybody seems to think that it's a good idea because you've got to win above all else. And one of the things that I learned along the way, in later years anyway, was that this is an element that most people don't see. They they trust their leaders. Now I pause on that because that sounds like a good thing, doesn't it? You try you have to trust your leaders, but what what if your leaders are not trustworthy? Your patriotism comes into play. You say, well, my country, right or wrong, my country nevertheless. Well, you think about that, the right or wrong part needs to be examined because if it's wrong, you could become like your enemy. And then you lose because you did it voluntarily. This is a heavy thought, and um it's not a popular thought, but it's a it's something I'm becoming increasingly aware of. It's one of these things that my own education is continues. I realized some time ago that our enemy was not communism at all. It was something else called collectivism. It was an ideology. I used to hang out at the communist bookstore for a while as I was trying to learn about all these things, and I read all the the works of Karl Marx, you know, Das Kapital and Communist Manifesto. But it wasn't until I got to the writings of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin that I really began to understand what communism was all about. It's not what you might think. The communists fought the fascists in World War II, and they killed each other by tens of thousands, if not millions of people, hundreds of thousands of people, lost their lives in this battle between fascism and communism. And it seemed like they were opposites. Of course. Why would they fight? Well, they didn't, they're not opposites, I discovered, because when I finally read Mein Kampf and I started comparing my notes of what the communists believed in and what the Nazis believed in, I just to my amazement, it was the same thing. With different slogans, but the concepts were the same. The central idea to both of these is that the group is more important than the individual, and that the individual must be sacrificed, if necessary, for the greater good of the greater number. That's the essence of communism, the essence of fascism, the essence of socialism, Nazism, all of the isms, including even Americanism, if you want to call it that. It doesn't make any difference what name you put on it. Look at the the ideologies underneath it. And anything that believes that the group is more important than the individual is the same. And that's what we're that's what I didn't catch in the beginning. That I was fighting communism and falling in line behind some leaders in America at the time who were avid anti-communists. I said, they've got to be good guys, right? Because they're they're against. Against the bad guys. What I didn't realize is that they were, and then I discovered later, they they were admirers of fascism, particularly Mussolini. Then I got hold of Mussolini's stuff, started to read that, and I thought, oh my gosh, it's more and more and more of the same. Now I mentioned this because that hasn't changed since the 1960s. It's gotten worse. We have a force in America today that's anti-communist, very strong, but the bad guys. It's the good guys versus the bad guys. They don't talk about the belief systems or the ideology. It says those are bad guys. Look at the bad things they did. And the assumption is that since they're such bad guys, we can do the same thing just to get even or to get up on them. So, in other words, we can become totalitarian ourselves in order to defeat totalitarianism, which is a strategy of war. That's the war. And this is a hard thing to get your wrap your head around. Lenin taught that in in the selected works of Lenin. And I'll give you just a I don't know how deeply you want to go into it, but you triggered me now. I have to go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

Turn it on.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

Lenin was very um he he wrote a lot. Yeah, yeah. As I recall, there were four volumes. I still have them in my library. But a lot of volumes of um were written on Leninism. And um almost all of them could be boiled down to the same principle. And it goes something like this. He said, I'm paraphrasing now, comrades, when we go into a country and we want to take it over from the inside, not from the outside, not with guns and bombs and bullets, but take it over from the inside like we always do. Do we tell the people that we are communists and that we are anxious to change their system, to obliterate their nationality, to change their legal system, their mores, their religions? No, of course not. They would not like us, they would oppose us. We would never be able to succeed. We tell them we are anti-communists, and we tell them we love their traditions and their and their their culture, their legal system, their you know, everything. We become like them, uh only more so. And they will love us, they will follow us, and they will put us into office, and we will come to power. Our goal, comrades, is I'm still paraphrasing Lenin. Our goal is not to win a debate or to become popular or anything else. Our goal is to come to power. Period. Once we come to power, we can reveal ourselves. And if anybody disagrees with us, we can shoot them. This is Leninism. And when you're reading communist literature and you see somebody refer to one of their compatriots as a Marxist, or then you hear somebody else described as a Marxist Leninist or just a Leninist, it may not sound like it means anything, but when you read the literature, it's very, very, very important. All of the countries that ever fell to communism were taken over not by Marxists, not one of them ever was taken over by Marxists. They were not taken over by the ideology of socialism. They were taken over by Leninists. Lenin was the originator of the Communist Party. He created a fighting organization, not a debate organization. He learned, he taught his people how to pretend that they're in politics when in fact they're in war. And he said the only thing that counts is to come to power. One of his more popular quotes is promises are like pie crusts made to be broken. That's Lenin. Now, if you've read Lenin and you compare it with Mussolini and Hitler, and all the other dictators of the world, Mao Zedong, all of them, Castro, all of them, they all believe the same thing. Now they may not call themselves communists, and they may fight each other as Adolf Hitler fought against Stalin, not because they believed in a different ideology or that they opposed each other on that. They were fighting over territory. They were fighting over dominance. Who's going to run the show? Who's going to be top dog? Who gives the orders and who carries out the orders? That's what it's all about. Another part to it I discovered later is that the gum-chewing public around the world that they have to conquer has to believe that choosing between right and left is a choice. They have to believe that, otherwise, they'll choose something else. And since they're both the same, they don't care which side wins, it's the same. Collectivism. Collectivism calling itself communism, and collectivism calling itself anti-communism, is still collectivism, and they will shoot you when they come to power. And that's why they they oppose each other, on the surface at least, but they work together very closely to oppose you and your opposition. The opposition to collectivism, by the way, is called individualism, and there is no nation anymore that advocates individualism. The United States was the single country, the first one in the world ever to build its system on the opposite of collectivism, which is individualism. It's gone now. It's gone now in America. We still talk about it, but we don't have it. We used to say America is not a democracy, it's a republic. If you can keep it, you know, there's stories behind that. There's a big difference between a democracy and a republic. I'll take just a moment and define that because that's so important. We can't just leave it back there. What is the difference? A democracy, by definition, technically, is a is rule by the majority. And that's about it. Whatever the majority, 51% wants, that's it. It's all numbers. There are no ethics involved. It's numbers, it's mathematics. And a republic is a democratic form of government based on rule by the majority, but there's the important word, with limitations. And those limitations are limitations on what the majority can do. Even if it's a majority of everybody against one. A republic is a form of government in which the majority rules, but with limits on its power, like the you know, the Bill of Rights, for example. That's a limitation not on you and me, of our power. It's a limitation on government. Congress shall pass no law respecting this, this, and this peaceful assembly, right to bear arms, and so forth. The majority shall not do this. That's what that means. The Congress means the majority. I don't care how big the majority is, the majority cannot do this, this, this, and this. That's a republic. It's important. It's very, very important. I did not learn that in school. And I don't think many people have are learning it in school today. That's why we can look at our leaders today and they're all saying we've got to save our republic. I mean, save our democracy. And it makes it makes me sick to my stomach. We do have a democracy today, but we don't want it any more than our founding fathers did. They warned us against the evils of democracy. It says that they always degenerate into mob rule and dictatorship. Always. Our founding fathers said that in just those so many words. You're not going to read that in your newspaper or hear it on TV, but that's it. What you're going to hear is everybody fighting against uh all these bad people, these communists now. Again, we're back to that. And we don't, we're not supposed to pay any attention to the political principles or ideologies of those who say they are anti-communists. Now you probably didn't want to hear me go into all of that.

SPEAKER_01 53:44

No, thank you. And that that's exactly what brings me back to what our mission is. Our mission is to save the hearts of mankind. And in closing, here, um, we, you know, that's why we want people to take charge of their health. And that's why I love the fact that we could just sit down with you and have you just educate us and talk and and tell us where you know where it all started and how it all came to be. And um your mission, you know, in general. I love it. And, you know, our our biggest thing with Cardiom Miracle is, you know, hope in a glass, taking your health into your own hands, and really thriving in life and um making sure that that they do, you know, our customers and our people and everyone that we want to get out there to stand up and do what's right and do what they believe. And and so in closing, if you don't mind, um if you could help, if you could uh you know, kind of tell us a little bit about um how how the people have been reacting that follow you um to cardiomerical in particular, and if you have seen that um, you know, that movement or whatnot, um, with people kind of taking their health into their own hands and and really uh trying to press forward as as steadfastly as they possibly can.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Well, yeah, thank you for that. Getting getting us back onto track here. Um now we could talk about political and ideological issues for a long, long time, but we're here to talk about the other side of the what you call the two sides of uh of being human. You've got to be healthy and you've got to be free. Those two go together. What's you it's no point in being healthy if you're a slave, and there's no point in in being a free man if you're if you're crippled and you're you're sickly and you can't even get out of bed, or because you're on toxic drugs or something like that. So, yeah, yeah, you've got to have the two together. You've got to have a healthy body and healthy mind, and you've got to have a free environment. And perhaps the free environment is dominant in this equation because without that, they won't allow you to have a healthy body. They'll tell you what medications or medical treatments you are allowed to have and which ones you are not allowed to have. So it always comes back to that ideological thing. But assuming we live in a free society, which is a big assumption right now, but um, assuming that that is the ideal, and uh right now we still have access to uh good foods and good medicines that are not chemical but are herbal or nature in base, there's nothing better, in my opinion, than the concoction that's in that Mardi cardiomerical. It's an amazing concoction of things. It's an expensive little puppy compared to some others, but it happens to be a very valuable thing, and uh I don't don't think you could put it all together for a dime or a quarter or something like that. So, yeah, and it's a simple thing. It works, and uh I'm not saying it's gonna work for everybody under all conditions, but when you improve the circulation of oxygen in your system, um you make your blood vessels more serviceable for uh various conditions under which you find yourself. You need you need more blood circulation when you're working hard, you need more blood circulation when you're under stress. Um when you when you don't have a lot of sleep, uh sometimes you have to work longer than you want to. You might have to work one or two days straight because that's required. Happens to me once in a while. And um, if you're if your blood is not pumping the oxygen and you're not getting it, you're not, it's not gonna work for you. So, anyway, that's all I can say is that um uh nature has the answer, and uh cardio miracle has uh it's all nature, and maybe it's not everything you need. You might have some things that would be beneficial for longevity or particular ailments or conditions that are hereditary and all that sort of thing. But as a as a primer to get started, to get everything moving, I I just couldn't recommend anything better. And from my experience and my my limited knowledge of these things, I think the Cardio Miracle is a great product.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

Thank you. Thank you. And did you have any final thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Well, I just had to say it's just been amazing to listen to you educate us, enlighten us, obviously, in the history of what you've experienced and and discovered for yourself, and then what you've taken into creative of your life. It's been really inspiring to be a part of this. So thank you for your time. And of course, Josh will wrap it up, but I just wanted to say thank you as the uh as the as we're the leadership of the company, and on behalf of our dad, John Hewlett, who absolutely thinks you're the greatest, and uh it's nice to get to see why. We just appreciate very much you being here today.

SPEAKER_02 58:56

Well, thank you, Jason and Josh. It's nice to see you guys. And uh it looks like the uh company's in good hands. And uh say hello to your dad for me. And uh anytime you want to talk about cardio or anything else, just give me a ring. We can do it.

SPEAKER_01 59:10

Awesome. Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate everybody tuning in to the Pulse Beat episode sponsored by Cardio Miracle, and we have the the legend G. Edward Griffin with us, and we're so excited that he was able to take some time with us and Jason Hewlett, the president, sitting down with us. It's it's just been an honor, uh, both of you. So thank you for your time again, and we hope you have a wonderful day and and grab your hope in a glass.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

Okay, gentlemen, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

Thanks so much. All right, bye-bye. Have a great day.