Dr. Robert Lufkin: The Lies We Were Taught in Medical School

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In this conversation, Robert Lufkin, a physician and author, discusses his critical views on Western medicine, emphasizing the importance of lifestyle changes in managing chronic diseases. He shares his personal journey of overcoming multiple health issues through lifestyle modifications and highlights misconceptions about health and disease. Lufkin advocates for patient empowerment in health management and the significance of preventive measures like fasting and exercise. His book, 'Lies I Taught in Medical School,' explores these themes and offers insights into improving health through informed choices.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Robert Lufkin
05:07 Critique of Western Medicine
10:08 The Role of Lifestyle in Health
15:05 Misconceptions About Health and Disease
19:51 Personal Journey and Transformation
24:58 The Power of Fasting and Exercise
29:52 Overview of the Book: Lies I Taught in Medical School
34:56 Empowering Patients in Their Health Journey

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:11

All right. Thank you very much for joining us here on the Pulse Beat, sponsored by Cardio Miracle. We are so excited today to have a very interesting and accomplished man named Robert Lufkin that we're so excited to introduce to you today and have a conversation with. Robert, how are you doing this morning? Hey, Josh. Good morning.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

I'm delighted to be on your program. I'm a fan of your work and your product as well. So this will be a fun conversation.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Yes, sir. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. And I uh we got you we got you super early this morning. He's in California, so we're we're very grateful for him and uh really excited to kind of dive into it. Uh Robert, if you could kind of give us a history of your background and and what you do, that'd be wonderful for our listeners to hear.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Sure. I'm uh I'm a I'm a physician. I have an MD. I'm licensed uh to practice. And I I've spent essentially my entire career uh within the medical system as a medical school professor, which gives me the opportunity to not only not only uh practice medicine and see patients, but also to to do research and you know write scientific papers, you know, which my lab has produced many of those, and and then also to to teach doctors in training and often as not learn from and another healthcare professionals in training and students. And and so it's a it's been a it's been a great, a great journey uh doing that.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

That sounds amazing. And so with your with your scientific papers, can you kind of can you elaborate on those? Like what what is the subject matter for those in general?

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Yeah, I mean, uh I've had a long uh medical career. So uh yeah, my lab uh uh has published uh over 200 peer-reviewed papers, which are sort of you know in scientific publications. Um we've published uh 10 over 10 textbooks that are you know kind of technical textbooks that nobody reads. And then one one other book behind me that is for the general public. But also uh our lab has received um you know literally millions of dollars in grant money from from the federal government, from NIH, from uh device makers, and also from pharmaceutical makers, which you know, which I'm I've become very critical of and will speak of that way as well. But it's it's it it's a great, it's it's allowed me to do a lot of a lot of things like this. And I um the the the book, which I get, you know, we're gonna talk about is very critical of Western medicine, of sort of very critical of the type of medicine that I practice. When I say Western, it's not like West versus East or anything like that. It's more like modern allopathic medicine, right? And and um, and you know, your listeners are probably thinking, wait a minute, you're you're the problem. You're part of the problem. If you're a medical school professor, you are you know in the ivory tower of of Western medicines. You know, what's going on there? And I, you know, I want to say I'm I'm very critical of Western medicine, but I have to say that, you know, Western medicine or allopathic medicine has in the 20th century, those of us who were around then, practicing then, truly transformed the lives of mankind. It it made the world a better place through the medicines, pills, and surgeries that were developed, largely through public health measures and other things like that. But no question, it it improves everyone's lives. And and the the problem is that in the 21st century, we're facing literally a tsunami of chronic diseases that that, although they were present in the 20th century, in the 21st century, these diseases now occupy, by some estimates, 80% of healthcare dollars. And the problem is when Western medicine takes the same pills and surgeries that were so effective in the 20th century and applies them to these chronic diseases, they may work for, you know, to save your life in the short term. But long term, for the most of them, they don't really get to the root cause. And in many cases, they don't address the disease and it can continue to progress. And that's and that's really the challenge. And it's really these chronic diseases. I mean, you know, even today, if I get hit by a car out in front of my house, I'm gonna want, you know, Western medicine. I'm I'm gonna need that blood transfusion, my ruptured spleen fixed, and my bone set. But the problem is with these chronic diseases, which which most Americans now have at least one of these, and uh they're they're taking up the vast majority of our healthcare dollars. We've got a real problem here because um it's just getting worse and worse and worse.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Right. Right. You know, I actually heard uh I heard some of these uh this this one doctor that was talking at a uh a doTERRA conference, and he said, um, you know, if I get in a car accident and I break my leg, I'm not gonna say, give me the Melrose, give me the peppermint, you know, he said I'm going to use Western medicine, which is very true. I think every everything has um a role to play. And um, like we believe with with our product, Cardiomiracle, like we believe that we we have a role to play as well. So with with us and uh with what we're trying to do with the whole and whole fruits and vegetables and the organic fruits and vegetables, uh, we have over 50 of those in our product. Um we're trying to make sure that people know that we're not against you know mainstream Western medicine, but we we just want to make sure that people are taking their health into their own hands and not depending on and reacting so much to their symptoms rather than um you know just preventing them for so to speak.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

So Yeah, absolutely. Just a follow-up, you know, in your space, the cardiovascular space, certainly, if uh, you know, if I get a heart attack, which statistically, you know, you and me and most of our listeners out there, that is the number one cause of death that we're most likely to die of. So if if I get a heart attack today, you know, there are things that will save my life in a CCU, you know, cardio-intensive care unit that Western medicine can provide. And and even putting a stent in the blood vessel will open up the blood vessel, which is sort of the standard of care now. But the problem is if that's all we do, the disease will continue to progress. That stent will clod off again and the other blood vessels. So that's that's the issue that that the Western medicine usually addresses the acute things. And then we have to address the the root cause, which is your your product with nitric oxide type type supplements and other lifestyle things, will really actually slow down or even reverse the disease that the stent the stent doesn't do.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

Right. Just kind of opens it up. So so tell me about uh so if you are getting this grant money and things, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I'm just wondering how how do you um complement that, but also, you know, have a voice to be able to tell you know help people realize that they they shouldn't be dependent on all of these other medications. Like, do you crit do you like tow that line?

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Yeah, I mean, I I think you know, people, you know, people ask you, you know, you you're you've written this book, you're very critical of Western medicine, you know, what and you still have a job at you know, leading medical schools in California. At least last time I checked. We'll we'll see. But uh, and and they go, well, how you know, how can you do that? And it's like, well, that's the nature of science, right? Uh, that that we're always learning. There's no absolute truth out there. It's we're just unpeeling the onion, you know, and learning more and more. And and truly, if if we understand science and and medicine, then we know that, you know, reasonable people can agree to disagree. You know, we're just we're just we're all trying to get along here and live, live our good lives. And, you know, most of the research in my book, almost all of it, I didn't do myself. You know, I'm I'm just looking at the literature, the scientific articles that we should all do. And and, you know, they're referenced in the book if people want to do a deep dive. But the point is, it's we look at the articles, we look at their claims, and then we we interpret them. Does this make sense? Does this not make sense? And that's all we're doing. And so it's it's the interpretation of those claims. And um my point was that uh I I think there are a lot of errors of where we are in medicine right now and where sort of the conventional framework which which I used to teach, and many of my colleagues still teach, are incorrect. Yeah. That's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

I I I love that, you know, it it's like it's like being in a debate club or something in high school or whatnot, is there's this healthy discussion of questioning everything, pretty much, you know, and and even with like what what we did with Cardiom Miracle with our product is we have four um studies that are done on our product, and our um this this gentleman out at the Ohio, uh Ohio University, he was this um incredible scientist named Tadus Molinsky. And he he went through our product, went through the ingredients, and he he went to my dad, who, my father, who created this product, and he said, Who are you? Are you a biochemist? Like, how have you put all of this together? And my dad just said, a lot of research, a lot of, you know, a lot of uh I feel like I've got some divine help, and and this is uh I put this formula together and we're able to make it work, and because the fact that it not only creates nitric oxide, but sustains it for 24 hours a day. And that's what he was shocked about. And so now here we are, you know, we're in 15 different countries, and we're all over the the you know, United States, and we're we're getting bigger and bigger every day. And so we're trying to take the approach of helping people to take their health into their own hands and to not only be reactive, but also be preventative, as preventative as they possibly can. But it it also puts a kind of a stamp on our back or on our chest that says we're against big pharma, and we're certainly not, you know, and so the the biggest thing is that we want to make sure that people are taking their health into their own hands. And so as you've been doing all this research, as you've been writing these books, what do you think the biggest, the three biggest misconceptions are out there of uh of people today in in all in your research? Kind of a loaded question.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Yeah, I mean, that's that's a great, great question. I mean, sort of one of the kind of fundamental overarching things is that um even though I'm a doctor, um I now believe that um doctors really don't make make us healthy, you know. Doctors just make us less sick. You know, but our healthcare system, for better or worse, largely is built around diseases, right? So if you have a disease, you go to the doctor and they will help you, they will manage that disease. Um, and and that helps you get less sick. It doesn't make you healthy necessarily. And that's that's the the thing. As a patient, I know that my doctor's not going to make me healthy, just make me less sick, right? So if I want to be healthy, that's on me. And those are the things that you know that I need to do about my lifestyle and the choices I make in my life. And and and it sort of ties into the I guess a follow-up to that is kind of a wake-up call for me. The other thing I didn't realize is um I I used to think of of diseases as um kind of a binary thing. You know, you either have our you either have a, you know, uh you have diabetes or you don't, you know, when your you know your hemoglobin A1C, which is the marker, blood marker for it, passes a certain point, you have diabetes, and and then you get a diagnosis, and the doctor can start charging for visits because you have that disease, they can start prescribing things, and the whole insurance system kicks in. But you know, one week earlier, before you crossed that threshold, you didn't have type 2 diabetes, and it was sort of an on and off switch, you know. And and now I realize that that these diseases and you know, these chronic diseases, the the list goes all the way from you know seemingly unrelated things like obesity, diabetes, hypertension, which most Americans have or are being treated for, um, cardiovascular disease, which you guys are concerned with, you know, stroke, heart attack, also cancer, you know, things like uh polycystic ovary disease, irritable bowel disease, uh Alzheimer's disease, and even mental illness. These diseases don't start when the doctor makes the diagnosis. And if I'm uh if I'm a patient and I wait until the doctor tells me, oops, you know, you forgot your keys. Guess what? You've got Alzheimer's, you know. I'm not trying to make light of that very serious disease, but it just, you know, it's not if we wait until the doctor makes the diagnosis and we enter the healthcare system, we've missed a tremendous opportunity for prevention because all of the diseases I mentioned start weeks, years to decades before the doctor even makes the diagnosis. And that's the window of opportunity for prevention. And that's I know that's what you talk about with your product and in your programs. And I, you know, I'm totally on board with that. And I think that's that's a huge uh take home that uh I I didn't appreciate before as much as I do now.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

I love it. I love it. And and as you've been writing these books and kind of doing all this research, have have you evolved into that or has has that kind of been your mindset since day one, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 15:38

No, I mean, I, you know, for for a lot of my career, I was, you know, minding my own business, being a professor, writing papers, writing textbooks. And uh, you know, my personal journey was uh, you know, like like a lot of people in this space, I was sort of dragged into it, kicking and screaming when I was suddenly diagnosed with four of these chronic diseases, four of them. And what did I do? You know, I went to my doctor and, you know, and said, you know, what can I do? And they said, oh, don't worry about it. Here's here are four prescriptions, you know, one for each disease. Um, you know, and they gave me a couple lifestyle tips. And I and I said, So what about this lifestyle? Can I really drill down on it and make a difference? And they go, nah, it really doesn't work. You're gonna be on these pills for the rest of your life, so you better get used to it. And and at that point, um, my my daughters were in you know, elementary school. Uh and knowing what I knew about those diseases, I knew it wasn't gonna end well. It wasn't that long ago. My daughters are now in middle school and high school, but there's but um but I knew it wasn't gonna end well. So it it really forced me, you know, it's not that I wanted to make the world a better place or anything, but you know, in all honesty, it was self-preservation. I, you know, it was selfishness, my own life. It made me begin to question my closely held beliefs, question what I was teaching and what many of my colleagues are still teaching to this day about these diseases. And I realized that there's been a revolution in our knowledge and understanding that I wasn't aware of, and that indeed there are relatively simple lifestyle changes that people can make that will actually slow down or even reverse these diseases. And it's it's all of these diseases across the across the board. It's the same lifestyle that affects all of them through something called metabolic health and the same root cause drivers, things like insulin resistance, inflammation, oxidation are all at the root cause. And so I I changed my lifestyle. I did some relatively straightforward, simple things. And lo and behold, I go back to the doctors and they couldn't believe it. They thought the labs were broken or something. And basically, um, I got off all medications. My diseases are essentially reversed. And now, you know, I've shifted away from working for drug companies and and and writing research papers, and I've now made it my mission in life to help others take back their health and hopefully not make the same mistakes that I made. And that's what I did. I did the book, I did the book behind me. It it unexpectedly became a New York best New York Times bestseller. So I got a tremendous amount of attention. Now we're doing, you know, we're doing uh a lot of you know podcast social media, outreach to people, helping, really helping, helping people do just what I did. And it and it works.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

That's amazing. That is so amazing. So let's talk about your book. Um, what what is the book called? I'm sorry. It's called Lies I Taught in Medical School. Okay, there it is. Lies I taught in medical school. That's that's amazing. So as as a professor, but as a professor, you you want your students to question things, right? You want them to kind of challenge you a little bit, right? So as you're doing that, what um what kind of response were you getting initially from uh from your students or from people that were around you?

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Well, one when I one one level of response is sort of uh, you know, how can you write a book like that that says you're teaching lies? Well, obviously, I didn't knowingly teach lies, and most, you know, most people don't, but it's sort of the nature, like we were saying, the nature of medicine and certainly science. There's a great quote from one of the greatest doctors of all time, uh Sir William Osler, when he was addressing a graduating class of medical students on the day they became doctors after completing medical student, medical school. And he famously said, gentlemen, because at that time most of them were men, gentlemen, we have a confession to make. Unfortunately, we don't know which half it is. And that just sort of sets the tone that our our knowledge of medicine is constantly evolving. Our knowledge of science is imperfect, and what we knew 10 years ago may not be true today. And even today, you know, somebody's gonna write a book about the stuff that I'm teaching, you know, you know, on and on, or I'll read or I'll write the sequel or something. So that's that's the nature of science, you know, unlike unlike religion, maybe, or politics, which, you know, I don't I don't do on my brand or my podcast, but uh unlike those things where you sort of have a faith in it, science, nobody has faith in science. You should not trust science, always question science. And and the and the cool thing about it is if we discover something in in Cincinnati, Ohio, there's a breakthrough in our understanding about mitochondria, for example, that instantly is accepted and applies all over the world. Unlike, you know, politics, which are regional, or religion, which is, you know, regional in its own way. You have to believe in a given deity or, you know, a given system of faith. Science, it works whether you believe in it or not. You know, what sweet it's gonna be there.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

It's gonna be there. But see, I wish, I I do wish, part of me wishes that there was more of a of a respect and understanding that of the whole agree to disagree thing with something like religion and with politics. I mean, I know it's it's all it is trajectory, but it's just it's just interesting how, you know, with science we could it it it all evolves and we could argue till the cows come home, but it's like we, you know. So it's it's amazing to hear from someone of your caliber to to talk about how we don't need, you know, we we don't need necessarily trust these things as much as just questioning them is healthy, you know, because they are evolving and it is it is ever evolving and it's just it's so fascinating. And so what one of the um one of the things that I'm interested in, I I want to I want to get a copy of your book. Where do you find it?

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Well, uh you can find it on Amazon, uh Barnes and Noble, uh independent bookstores, and your public library too. It's uh and if people want, you know, they can download a free chapter on my website, both in Audible form if they like to listen to it, or in a PDF form if they want to read it. They're welcome to do that and um you know see how they like it. And what is the website? It's Robert Lufkin, L-U-F-K-I-N-M-D.com. Okay. Awesome. Are you reading it on Audible or do you have uh another one? Actually, my publisher had somebody else read it. They hired a uh professional to do it. So uh he did a great job, but probably better than I could have done.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

So that's awesome. My brother wrote a book and he said doing the audible thing was one of the toughest things he's ever done, you know? So so but I was gonna say, I was I was gonna say if if if you did, if you did that voice work, is that what the Academy Award behind you is?

SPEAKER_01 23:29

But well, I am calling in from Los Angeles, so that's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

So do you have a hobby on the side? Are you doing 3D printing and stuff? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

I mean, I just my my daughters help me with 3D printing. I'm spending a lot of time with my my daughters trying to enjoy the time they're here, you know, because they're you know soon going to be leaving the house, going to college and all. So both uh they play volleyball, so I they uh they we do we go to a lot of volleyball games all around the country to tournaments and stuff. So uh have a lot of fun doing that. Yeah. That's awesome. And I just did a I'm uh we were talking offline, Josh. I'm uh I'm in day three of a uh water only fast. I haven't eaten anything except water since Saturday night. This is now we're recording this on uh Tuesday, so one more day. But it's actually it's it's wonderful. And we're we're organizing these uh online now. Uh we're doing them quarterly. So the next one is in January. Everyone's welcome to sign up. It's free. We have a couple thousand people. We do uh an hour-long Zoom call every day to kind of help everyone do it together as a team. We have we have celebrities, movie stars join us, we have doctors, we have you know, other and and guests and other people. So it's a lot of fun to to complete it as a community, as a tribe, and we we support each other.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

That's amazing. That's really cool. And so are are you doing this as like a reset, or are you doing this as something as a for a health benefit, I'm assuming?

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Or yeah, yeah. I mean, it's for for the health benefit. I you know, I'm I'm I'm uh hosting the the calls and everything. So I want I want to participate, but they're tremendous benefits. I never felt better. You know, you energize your brain, you turn on autophagy, you go into ketosis. Uh it's just a cellular cleanup. And I'm I'm looking forward to doing it, you know, once every three months as kind of a ritual, a ritual thing. You know, it's very strong. You can you can make it a spiritual practice too. You know, one thing all the religions in the world agree on, and it's nothing to do with uh any necessarily spiritual tenant, but it's that fasting is is healthy.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

So well, to get you back centered and and to, I mean, it's it's got a lot, it's got a lot of benefits there. That's that's incredible. So I'm now I'm gonna tell you my journey. So I uh I was almost 500 pounds, and I I decided that I was going to um just take take charge of my life, take charge of my health. And uh so I've dropped I've dropped 200 and I uh Congrats I I did uh what's intermittent fasting, and so every day I stop eating by 6 p.m. Um I don't eat again till about one or two the next day, and it's um what the night the cool thing about Cardium Miracle, our product, is that it doesn't actually it doesn't raise your glucose levels, it doesn't actually break your fast. And so it does help it helps keep me satiated, so to speak, while I'm in my fast, and it it's not breaking the fast. And so we do have um, we do have a couple we have like 10 calories in each scoop, but that uh for me I wear glucose patch and it doesn't show any raising of the blood sugars or anything, and so um there it's just kind of an interesting thing. But what I did with my journey is I started moving, I started walking. Um I I walked over you know seven million steps last year, and um that I just track it all in my garment watch, you know, and it gives me history of my whole walking uh career is what it says. So it's just really fun to be able to um do that and not only take my health into my own hands, but to also um manage it, you know, manage it as well as I can. But I love what you're doing with uh the three-day fast. I mean, that's I I can't even tell you how how much um I appreciate that because I love I love fasting. It's the I tell people, you know, fasting's one of the easiest things that anyone can do to get to to do a reset or just to get more clarity. I mean, it's uh it's a really powerful thing. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Yeah, our next one's in January, right after the holidays, so we can all do cleaning and everything. So Josh, join us. We'd love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I will. No, I will. So I want to talk more about your book. So what is um in in the whole uh general premise of the book, um, as you're going through it, are you are you going through it like subject by subject um that you were teaching in high school, or is it just a big consensus of these are things that I've learned throughout my throughout my career of teaching or throughout my career in my of becoming an MD or uh what you're practicing? Um what is the general consensus of the uh Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 28:49

Basically the book starts out uh the first chapter is sort of about my journey that that I, you know, that I summarized for you there and what I went through that sort of brought me to this point. And then the next uh next several chapters take each of the chronic diseases that that most Americans have, you know, things like like obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer's disease, mental illness. And each one of those diseases, it talks about how lifestyle can literally reverse them. And and the the lifestyle techniques that I use, and then it sort of summarizes with a chapter on longevity, because the interesting thing is these are the diseases that uh determine when we die. And if we change our lifestyle and improve our health, these diseases get pushed back. And we we all die of something, right? Like Jim Morrison says, nobody gets out alive, right? But but but we can push them back later and later in our lives. So what happens is our longevity increases. So the the the penultimate chapter is about longevity and how lifestyle actually increases our health span, not only how long we live, but how long we live healthy. And and that's that's kind of the arc of the book. And hopefully, you know, most Americans have at least one of these diseases, and if they don't have it yet, they're going to get it. So if effectively we're all gonna die of one of those diseases. It's better to address it early with lifestyle than wait for your doctor to give you that diagnosis and start giving you pills and surgery, like is what happened to me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

Yeah, that's what that's what we tried to promote is just taking that, taking the health into your own hands. Because I tell people all the time, wherever I am in the world, there's always a place where you can walk. You know, you can walk, you know, you can park your car further from the door, you can get those steps in that way. Um like like last night, I was at my my wife's house, my wife's parents' house, and we were just they were all just chatting or whatever, and then everyone started getting on their phones, of course. And so I got up and I just went for a walk. And and so you can get you can go for a walk anywhere. And so it's just it's it's you just have to take the first step, you know, you just gotta do it and uh take your health into your own hands.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

And so I love it. It gets to be a great habit. I uh um even this morning, uh, you know, I got up and walked about six miles, and um and and it feels great, you know, even though I'm fasting, it was it was great. And the way I the way I do it, I I go to a coffee shop um near near my house. It's not that near, though, it's about three miles away. So I get up and I walk to the coffee shop, have in this case black coffee because I'm fasting, and then then I walk back and it's you know it's great, it clears my head and uh very healthy thing for everybody should be doing the the steps, just like everybody should be lifting weights. You know, if if our nursing homes had weight rooms, there'd be a lot fewer people in the nursing homes because you know strength training fights aging, and uh it just needs to get out there more.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

So strength strength training fights aging. Is that what you said? Yeah, yeah. So in your in your book, I don't want to ruin it for everybody because I'm gonna go get it after this. But with with the further chapters, the further you get into it, do you start you start talking about those lifestyle changes and kind of absolutely yeah, the things that the things that I did, and it and it it's pretty straightforward and the changes happen pretty fast too.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

It's amazing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

Yeah, how how amazing is it that we can go 20, 30 years destroying our bodies by the things we're eating, and literally in 12 weeks you can reverse a lot of it. Like if you just start, it's just if you just get going, right? I mean, it's amazing how quickly the body adapts.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Yeah, yeah, it's it's great. Even you know, people, people in their 80s can or 90s or you know, even later can can adopt these changes. It's never too late to start, it's never too late to start being healthy. You know, I I never I never lifted weights uh before, you know, this year, really literally, and and now it's something I'm gonna do for the rest of my life. You know, it's so important to maintain muscle mass, you know, so that so that I can pick up my grandkids like this, so that I I'm not frail, I don't fall down. And I think, you know, it's it and it improves things like your brain, your BDNF, brain-derived neurotrophic factor, your insulin resistance, metabolic health. I mean, certainly exercise is one of the key, the key pillars of lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

I love it. No, I love it, and I'm I'm a big weightlifter. So when I was almost 500 pounds, I was competing in the strongman world because I love food and I could pick up heavy stuff. And so the fact that now that I've lost all this weight, I do I start every morning at the gym and then I go for a nice walk, or I do like a jog or something with a weighted vest on. And I'm just uh every morning I'm feeling like I can conquer anything, you know, because I just I do all this stuff and I love it. And so very, very excited to get your book and um so excited to be talking to you today. I just I appreciate so much all the words of wisdom and everything you've shared. And if there was if there was like 90 seconds that you could give like a tagline or something, like what would be the most important thing that you could throw out to us today? Sure.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

I oh well a lot of people ask me, you know, you spent your whole career in the medical establishment, and now you've written this book that's you know critical of the medical establishment, you know. Doesn't that make you sad? You know, and you know, isn't that aren't you depressed? And the answer is no. Uh actually, um, I'm I'm hopeful because I think we're entering a new era of of health and medicine. And it's the idea where the patient is taking control of their own, their own life. In other words, me as a patient, I get to become the CEO essentially of my own health. Now, doctors are still important, and you know, if I have a problem, I'll go talk to the doctors. But like we said, they're not going to make me healthy. To be healthy, I'm in charge of that. And more and more I have access as a patient to wellness tools, like programs like yours and things that that prevent disease and all, and and let me let me push them back. And and lifestyle is is arguably the single most powerful medicine that any of us will ever access in our lives. And the great thing about lifestyle is no doctor can do lifestyle for me. It's on me, the patient. And it's something I get to choose every single morning when I wake up, just like you. You know, am I gonna go on that walk? Am I gonna go lift weights? Am I going to uh, you know, uh exercise more? Am I going to, what am I gonna eat? What am I gonna put in my mouth? Am I gonna be conscious about the things I consume? Am I gonna be conscious about my relationships with people? And on and on and on. And that is the the ultimate power to make us healthy, and that's on us. And I think it's a super exciting time that we're in, and we're seeing it all around us. People are just interested in being healthy. It's it's really exciting.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Yeah, there's I I say to people all the time, there's there's no food that is as good as healthy feels. I mean, I'm telling you what, it's and it's all it's all gonna be there, you know. Like uh, you know, the donuts are gonna be there, the croissants are gonna be there. Like I've I've had, I've eaten food all over the world, you know, like five-star cuisines, whatever. It's like I don't need it. It's but it's going to be there. So um, Robert, thank you so much for your time today. We appreciate you so much, and we're so excited. Go get your book. We're gonna promote it. Uh, we're gonna throw it out there to our audience. And um, hopefully, you know, I are you are are you doing tours and things? Like are you are you going around and signing and stuff?

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Yeah, yeah. I mean, period yeah, conferences and stuff. I'm always happy to sign books and uh for people yeah, out there. And you know, I'm I'm active on on social media too. My wife says too active, but uh what if people find you on social media? Which ones are uh well I mean you just uh well go to my website again, RobertLuftkinmd.com, and I have all the all the you know, or just Google it, uh Chat GPT it, like Android it, claw it, you know, whatever you want to do. Anyway, so draw it there. Yeah, they do all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

All right, Robert. Well, thank you so much for your time. Uh thank you everybody for watching another Pull Speed episode. Uh we're gonna get uh Dr. We're gonna get Dr. Robert Lufkin some cardio miracle. We're gonna send it on to him, get his uh get his information offline. Um, but we're so excited, go check out his book, and uh we are very, very um excited to listen to him and actually hear uh hear of his wisdom. And we just want people to take their health into their own hands and make sure that we uh we can help heal the hearts of mankind. So thank you very much for your time, and I hope you have a wonderful day today.