Is Healthcare Really Making Us Healthier? with Dr. John Bruchalski

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In this conversation with Dr. John Bruchalski, the discussion focuses on the real limitations of today’s healthcare system—where doctors often help patients become “less sick” rather than truly healthy. Dr. Bruchalski shares the challenges facing modern medicine, including the shortage of new doctors, the strain on compassionate patient care, and the growing disconnect between providers and the communities they serve. The episode also explores the mission of Divine Mercy Care, its commitment to underserved populations, and its work in inspiring the next generation of healthcare professionals. Throughout the discussion, Dr. Bruchalski emphasizes a faith-driven, service-oriented approach to medicine that prioritizes dignity, compassion, and community support.

00:00 Introduction to the Black Robe Regiment
00:28 The Impact of Abortion on Women
00:40 Body Literacy and Women's Health
00:55 The Crisis in Healthcare Supply
02:23 The Role of Faith in Medicine
05:28 Divine Mercy Care and Its Mission
08:18 The Call to Accompany Others in Healing

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Well, welcome to America's Black Robe Regiment and the Fellowship of the Robe, ladies and gentlemen. We're glad you've joined us today. We are raising up pastors throughout America who are standing for liberty and uh striving to secure the blessings thereof to ourselves and to our posterity, toward the next generation. So thank you so much for joining us. And uh we're we're excited today to have our guest, John Bruchowski, who's a good friend. Dr. John Bruchowski is married to Carolyn. He had a change of heart within the practice of reproductive medicine while a resident in OBGYN at the contraceptive research and development center and home of the America's first test tube baby, Eastern Virginia Medical School, and the Jones Institute of Reproductive Medicine. His change of heart led him back to practicing the life-affirming health care, a modern-day Balmouth Gilead, as he founded Tepiak OBGYN in 1994 and Divine Mercy Care in 2000, a nonprofit umbrella to help care for the least of our brothers and sisters, which make up 40% of their of their OBGYN practice in Northern Virginia. John has worked with Students for Life, Live Action, American Association of Pro-Life Obsteticians and Gynecologists, Christian Medical and Dental and at Catholic Medical Associations. He wrote about his change of heart in an Ignatius Press book to patients in 2022. Let's start today with your change of heart at Eastern Virginia Medical School. That did not, how did that happen?

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Yeah, um so uh as you can see, I'm an old white guy, and uh I happen to have practiced obstetrics and gynecology, a women's specialty, for nearly 40 plus years. And uh I learned my OBGYN by listening to my female friends and patients. They told me, so this this is in the 70s and 80s, and uh autonomy, sexual freedom, and equality were the hallmarks. So I absolutely listened to listened to them, even though I grew up in a great Bible-strong family, I bought what they were telling me. And so I wanted to be the best OBGYN I could be. I didn't want to leave it to someone else. So the whole idea of contracepting women from 12 to 50 and then hormones from 50 to 90, only being interrupted for wanted pregnancies and getting rid of anything unwanted or unperfect. So for the first two years of my residency, I performed every aspect of reproductive health care you can imagine, um, which included putting in IUDs right after the baby was born, because I couldn't trust them with a partner who was forcing themselves on them. And so with it before I even said, Welcome to the world, young, young child, and congratulations, mom, I was slipping in an IUD that was just being hooked because we were a contraceptive research and development center at the Eastern Virginia School of Medicine. And we were on the cutting edge at the time for that research and development. Many of the oral contraceptives we've used today, they were part of my training. Chemical abortions were part of my training. First, second, and third trimesters were part of my training. Especially getting rid of sick children in the womb of their mothers was part of my training. Making eggs, sucking out eggs from women who were in the in vitro line. We were the home of the Jones Institute for Reproductive Medicine. That's the name of the first test tube children. Just like uh gender reassignment surgery was from Hopkins, while Dr. Georgian and Howard Jones was from Hopkins, were from Hopkins, and they were my professors, and so I did what they desired. And that's how I ended up uh there, uh doing all aspects of reproductive health care. I found it hardening my heart because of the violence done by abortion on that issue. I found it disquieting because I was shutting women's brains off through hormonal contraception. Rather than getting to the disease or the underlying cause, no, you just shut off their brain, control it. Because remember, Margaret Sanger and the rest of the healthcare community, reproductive health care, reproductive justice, they call it now, it's about progress and science and control. And so don't worry about, you know, to be equal to a man, you have to, quote unquote, as I did, liberate women from the chains of their fertility, quoting Marx, but bastardizing it a bit. And you find yourself in a in the slop. We all do. Women began to regret their abortions, so I heard that. I was listening to my patients. Why the hell did I, why the heck did I do that? Oh my gosh. Um, oh, by the way, Dr. John, you gave me a twofer. Well, what do you mean, ma'am? Well, you aborted twins for me. Thank you for getting two fixed. And I was becoming hardened, they were becoming hardened. There was no attempt at building relationships that were to be loved and to love, which is ultimately what we're all called. And so the data was coming in: abortion and breast cancer, abortion and mental illness, abortion and preterm birth. And late one night on labor and delivery, I came face to face with my own issues. Now, can you imagine I'm also volunteering at a pregnancy center run by the Assembly of God Church between us at Norfolk General in the city, down on Virginia Beach, right off of the Virginia Beach Boulevard in the community of Virginia Beach. That's where we trained. And uh here I am volunteering at a pregnancy resource center. My insides are being split because you have to steal yourself to do the violence. Rather than listening to the whole story and doing what's what you think is best as a professional, it's abortion on demand. And so, Bill and Lisa, I, you know, I was providing that. So here I am late one night on labor and delivery, and I have uh two patients coming in right at about 24 weeks, both with early labor, both in labor. One woman wanted her baby, so I did everything I could to stop labor, and we did stop it. And that child went on to deliver healthy many weeks later. So 24 weeks is right after the halfway part, the halfway part of a 40-week pregnancy. In the other room, same diagnosis, same situation. I walk in, she says, get it out of me, John. She was from my clinic. I said, I haven't even spoken to you yet, Jane. She says, I it remember, it doesn't matter speaking to me. I'm telling you, get it out of me. And you do what I am asking you to do because I hear you're good at this. Wow. I gave her, I broke her water, gave her medicine, blew the kid out in a bucket. Caught the fetus, the unborn, the born now child, 24 weeks, or what I thought was 24 weeks, in a bucket. It started crying. Oh my gosh. And I was taught to still end the life. Because remember, this born, you know, we just lost this vote, you know, the Born Alive Act, uh, right at the beginning of the Trump pregnant uh presidency. It was voted down. Why? Because it's left to be between a doctor, the abortionist, usually, and the mother. The hospital doesn't want it, I don't want it, the mother doesn't want it. So what do you do? I suffocated it or tried to. And when I finally readjusted it because it was still making noise, and I didn't, I was very, it was a mercy killing. I didn't want the mother to suffer anymore. This child was unwanted. Come on, let's get it this over with. It felt too heavy because I was a good doctor. I put it on a scale and it was over 500 grams. And in the state of Virginia, that's a human life. So I called the nursery, the neonatal. Now we're in chaos. Yeah. Nobody wants this. The baby's alive, it's too heavy because I didn't take a good history. And in walks in this doctor, and thank God for Dr. Debbie Plum. Thank God. What a witness. Because the intellectual data was there. My heart was splitting like Solzhenitsyn would say. Good and evil run through the human heart. This woman's angry and bitter and in a bad relationship and getting rid of the product of conception. And lo and behold, she looks at me and says, John, stop treating my patient as a tumor. You're better than this. And by the way, have a cup of coffee with me in the morning. Witness. Just like you're doing with black robes. She was doing it in the midst of the mess, the slop, the messiness of what we know as reproductive health. Wow. And I'm telling you, she said, and at coffee the next morning, she basically said, Bill and Lise, you need to find Jesus. You're so good at what you do. You make house calls. I hear that you follow women to their home even when they're doing the chemical abortion back then. I did. I watched them pour, dump the pr the little one into their toilet because their home, their apartment turned into a killing field. That's the reality of chemical abortion, which is taking up 60 to 80 to 90% of all abortions today. I was doing that back then. And lo and behold, my mother, a few days later, invited me on a trip, and I came face to face with the love of Jesus Christ, came home from that experience, a changed, new. Yes, I was flat on my face. Yes, it was, I'm a man of unclean lips. Yes, it was, but it made sense. The data, the women's experience talking to me, I regret my decisions. I want something life-affirming. Get to the root causes, Dr. John. And now coming face to face, actually hand to heart, the heart of mercy, I had to change my life. And so that's the story, Bill, in a short version. Well, that's a great story.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

That's amazing, you know. Yeah, Bill, I mean, truly, um, coming from my nursing background, medical background, um, when we would take the patients in the emergency room that were losing their babies, and I remember the first time I witnessed, you know, after almost 30 years in the medical field, but I would witness these babies that were, in my opinion, they were being birthed and they were, if they were not viable, we would consider them angels, right? So was babies are up there waiting for those moms, and I would comfort those moms. But there were many botched situations that happened. And I would I would go in the bathroom and cry out to Jesus and say, This mom needs delivery. And I remember when I lost a baby, and that was so that was so profound for me in particular, because I had seen the babies in the petri dishes, I'd seen them in the bedpans, and here I am with one of my little ones. And um, you know, I was never on the part that you were on, but truly, for people really to understand the beauty and the delightfulness of life, yes, is something that has been burning, I think, in all of us believers' hearts. But I just want to say congratulations and thank you for turning your your ship before you hit the tight, you know, before the Titanic hits the hits the big ice flow, because this is where we're at today. And you look going on in our country and you look at the amount, I mean, I look at the women that have been so deceived.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

All these ma'am.

SPEAKER_04 13:42

And they think, I mean, you look at the, you know, I'm I'm old enough to know that when we started to figure out that the women's movement, uh, we used to call it a big BM because the women's movement put women in a bad place and also putting men in the in a in even a worse place because we were just not only were we disrespecting our own bodies, but we were disrespecting our men, our male partners, our husbands, our and and those individuals at the same time. So without a doubt, many years past this, and I believe that the Lord is you know pulling together the fundamental features of the family, and we have more young people that are desiring that. We have more young people that are desiring to have families and homestead and homeschooling. Yes. So we have big change out there, which again, just thank you for your education and thank you for what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

That's absolutely no le Lisa, you're spot on. I just finished up uh this weekend at uh choose life at Yale. Nice, it was a feminist conference. Wow. Pro-woman, pro-life. Wow, hallelujah. And it attract it attracted all sorts of different folks, but I can and I spoke uh there on body literacy. Meaning this idea of you are more than just your biology. You have a psych, you have a psyche, you also have a heart, because we know in Hebrew the word lev, L-E-V, is translated heart. But it really is mind, heart, gut, and womb or testicle for the man. And yet that connection we now know through neuroscience, the vagus nerve connect is a tenth cranial nerve, and it goes all the way past the diaphragm, it innervates the heart, it takes care of stress, meaning the cortisol and DHEA from the adrenal, the thyroid gland, the energy, the body's metabolism, sugar, energy, brain, heart, gut, womb. You're a whole person. And after my encounter with the science that I had, but with the relationship with Jesus Christ, you begin to realize that you're a body, soul, and spirit, a body, psyche, and soul put together. And you can't separate it because he wants integration, he wants unity, he doesn't want division in yourself, in your communities, in the church. And he's he's a God that brings together harmonizing and loving so we can are his children. And so when you when we began to speak with women up at the conference, they were so grateful for going after root causes, hate disease, but love the patient, care for the patient. And when you build trust that way, as I've tried to do for 30 years of practice, why do women refer their other women to me? Well, as a man, it's because you listen, you learn, and you care, you love. I want your story. I want to know why, what's going on, the root causes, not only the biology, but the psychology as well as the spirit behind these issues. Because in order, there is a higher power, and you're not it, as I would jokingly tell patients, you have to meet people where they're at. And some people don't have the Christian walk as we do. And so, this idea of a higher power is a way to get people to think about well, if you're not meditating, you better start meditating. And if you're meditating, you better think about praying. And so, this idea of just slowly bringing folks along to health, wholeness, and righteousness or holiness is a real, you can do this today, just like the black robes are doing in the legal world. Uh, the goal, you know, the folks on my end can do the same thing if we really focus on the woman's story, where she's carrying her shame and guilt and burdens and illnesses, but also to see the integrated nature of what health can be, the care rather than the cure. And so thank you, Lisa, for sharing your miscarriage or your loss issues. Because that's really when you see that, it's really when you find yourself at that moment of real choice and real surrender and real dependence. Because autonomy, it's what it's what Ruth Bader Ginsburg hated about Roe. That's right. Are you are we kidding us? We're kidding ourselves here. It's not about autonomy. It can't be. You know, and all of a sudden, yeah. So anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

As you as I as I heard you tell your story at the beginning, John, seeing the aborted baby uh being evacuated from the body and sitting in a bucket, I guess it was, in the delivery room. And uh I I almost started bawling because you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

I know. I know, Bill.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

But the one thing that gives us comfort is that they're with Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Well, they're with Jesus, Chris. Mercy is mercy is attracted to misery.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

In that bucket. Yes, he's there. He's holding us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

The point I wanted to make is that there is no more vile form or violent form of tyranny in the world today than the attack on the womb. It is the most vile, most evil, most brutal, most corrosive form of tyranny that exists among humanity today. And as I've said many times today, uh, since many times recently, that the fruited plain is drenched in innocent blood. From sea to shine, from sea to shining sea. And it's it's a tragedy of unbelievable proportions. America has basically aborted its greatness. Correct. It is sacrificed greatness to the to the to the convenience of abortion or whatever you want to call it. It's not convenient.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

I like this. This is a really good chance for us to give a shout-out to our sponsor because you said something, John, about the the health, right? Health of the individual, individual, health of the mother. Um, but also you talked about the vagus nerve. And we often talk about the pineal gland and how it's becoming calcified. And therefore, people don't have the feeling and the attachment. Um, they're detached. So one thing I think is very interesting is that, you know, we have a wonderful founder of Cardiomiracle, which is all about family and all about country and all about God. And um, he himself has a very large family and encourages those to do so. But when I started to delve down into really where some of these infertility cases are coming from, and why are we having such a high, high cases, uh cases of infertility in our country? One thing that did is one particular category of that um information was that they had poor nutrition, the chemical toxins, the disruption at the with the hormone level and so on. So when I looked at the product called Cardiomerical and I said, so we're 700 nutrients, so we're, you know, 58 ingredients, and it fulfills the extreme demands of the body on a daily basis, and it also crosses the blood brain barrier and also increases the nitric oxide in the body. So I was thrilled about that. We have had so many. Many people, thousands of people recover from very tragic situations, you know, almost in a PTSD situation. And here they are, you know, and they're feeling better, doing better, and they can make cognitive thoughts. And uh, we know that we have an environment that's putting so much pressure on people to be everything they shouldn't be and not accepting of everything our father wanted them to be.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

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SPEAKER_01 22:41

Yes, yes. Uh as you get away from a lot of the traditional medicine where you get about 13 minutes of nutrition teaching. Right. Yeah, I know. Um, yes. And then once you realize, like in my work of hormonal hacking, as being, you know, sitting and listening to the women's stories, food is medicine. And it's probably one of the um, even though it can be challenging for many folks to uh to to constantly go towards the basic exercise, diet, supplements, herbs, you know, their whole life experience, it really can happen. And I think the uh your your sponsor really has a finger on the pulse.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Because um it really is a matter of the heart. Because we intellectually know as someone greater than we all would say, I do what I don't want to do and I don't do the things I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

And so being able to utilize these resources and putting their money where their mouth is uh and their business, I'm I'm so grateful to be a part of this. And so thank you so much for this opportunity.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

I have one other question, Bill, if I may. Um with the new students, with the new students coming up, are the young doctors, uh, male, female, what is there? Is a stand on a stance on abortion and you know, chemical abortion. Um, do you see that there's a shift coming? Are they, or is it just pretty much mainstream medicine as it was years ago when you started?

SPEAKER_01 24:25

So um there's a little bit of both there, Lisa. Um many, many years ago, when I started, you had to opt in for abortion. And after 50 years of roe and the Dobbs decision, they now have created a fifth OBGYN subspecialty called complex family planning. Because contraception, contraception is kind of everywhere and pervasive and ubiquitous. And because abortion follows contraception, back in the old days it was you had to have abortion for failed contraception. It's kind of the, I believe it was kind of baked into the Casey decision, actually. And so what happens is that now we've realized that only 7 to 17% of all OBs did surgical abortions. And about 80% of people who wanted, like they're very pro-choice, they're very pro-abortion, they're ideological, they want to do abortions. Guess what? They can't do them. Why? Because it's brutal. And to think that you have to do it all the time because contraception fails as much as it does, human nature is what it is. And now it's, you know, just like contraception is the answer to every major medical human pro, you know, female problem. Too much pain, too many cysts, too much bleeding. Well, we now have body literacy with fertility awareness-based methods that get to the root. We actually look at the human body, we see how diet affects the cycle, how we can handle stress affects the cycle. And there is this new movement. However, because there's so few surgeons left to do abortions, they're now beginning to have, no, you have to opt out of abortion in many centers. Ah, okay. And that's the challenge. So there are young people coming up, but as we've seen with uh the um tyranny found within medicine, you know, there's only one way to treat COVID. You know, there's only one way to treat female problems.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Well, we have many people very interested in coming into these specialties, especially OB, but they're also risk averse, meaning they don't want to be punished. They don't want to be blackballed. That's right. And so the Christian Medical and Dental, the Catholic Medical Association, alongside the American Association of Pro-Life OBGYNs, and the work that we've been doing just one-on-one as part of Tepiac and Divine Mercy care, you accompany these students to show them that this specialty of approaching this in a life-affirming way is viable, is growing, is the patients are beginning to demand it. That's where body literacy, they really want to know about their bodies. They want to know the connections between food and exercise and supplements. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 27:48

Because they don't want their have a healthy child and a healthy family. And also, one there was a really, I mean, many, many, many, many articles out there to talk about how if you increase the the cellular nutrition of the mom, including the B vitamins, that there isn't the long, the long attack on the body after the baby's born with postpartum depression.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Absolutely. And we now know that natural progesterone to supplement the woman's postpartum episodes of PTSD or postpartum depression, you can actually naturally collaborate, cooperate with her body rather than, oh, you just need to go on another synthetic hormone. Are you, and now you've got the swings happening. Yep. Yep. And now, exactly. And so I really appreciate your insight. And as we also now know, that in the genetics of the human person, it's the mother's genetics that give us our mitochondria.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

The little energy, the little, the little, you know, the little energy storehouses within every cell.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

It's from the mother's genetics. And that's the that's the energy that we're now dealing with, whether it's above the brain in the brain, it's above the brain barrier, or in every cell of your body. And we're now learning about insulin resistance and giving the body better energy. You know, Lisa, I used to be 350 pounds. Oh my! I'm now great. I'm now under, yeah, thank you. I'm now under 200. But it was a change of diet. It was supplements, it was hormonal balancing. And it wasn't just from the EMDR and the neuro, you know, the neuro uh tapping that is being pushed, which is wonderful. But unless you get to the deeper issues, those wounds, the burdens, the memories, the, you know, even growing up in good families, moms and dads early on just didn't give us a lot of the time what we needed. And so this idea of getting to the root causes, which ultimately end up in prayer and the crying out found in the Psalms. I can tell you that uh when we were doing our stress work in our practice, not only did Condaleza Rice send us her State Department folks, she was a Christian woman, but Hillary Clinton sent a lot of her folks to us also. Wow. Because we did good medicine, holistic, integrated, and we developed street cred with our patients. Why? Because we cared for them, regardless of where they came from. And then once you became a little bit of a not a friend, but more of an acquaintance or somebody, you can begin to talk to them about, they would ask more deeper questions, and you got a chance to talk about the issues that divide us rather than a political tit for tat. It was an understanding of what it means to be human, of how you address illness and then suffering, harm versus hurt. And you can talk about it in a way that got past all the barriers and all the initial cataclysms found when you're from the opposing side and or you're not of the same tribe, and you begin to throw venomous comments. Well, by literally looking at body literacy and helping them get better, fatigue, exhaustion, um, you know, weight gain, dry skin, constipation, lack of sex drive, you begin to help them see a bigger picture that you really care about them. And in that dynamic of love, I'll be honest with you, that is what's going to change, at least in my profession.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

We're facing things right now in Virginia with the uh abortion issue that in earlier this year um the state senate and the state house voted to put abortion into abortion on demand into the Constitution. And if we don't change that components in our legislatures now, this November, they're going to re-vote on it again in this coming January of 2026. And our governor doesn't have the capacity to change this change to the Constitution. And I can tell you that what I did that night in that hospital room trying to suffocate, that's how we end a live birth abortion. And because chemical abortions have been so, they did an end around. First it was, oh no, you needed three visits with a doctor to make sure you were under 10 weeks with an ultrasound and blood work, that's all been eliminated. Wow. We now have 72 websites where you can purchase the Mifepristone and Mizoprostol online. It gets sent to your home. And remember, because of the protections built into the doctors that provide that service, because it's abortion, elective direct abortion, we have no chance of putting forth common sense, you know, uh paternal notice. Wow. Common sense, you know, and it just becomes a real mess. I have a question. And so we're at that, yeah. Go ahead, Bill. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Can a legislature legitimate that which offends the laws of nature? In other words, can a legislature call something a constitutional, call something constitutional which offends the law of nature, which is human life, you know, in defense of life. I I don't believe it can ever become legitimate, uh, just because a legislature, you know, maybe 100% of the legislature can pass it, but it's it'll never be legitimate.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

It never is legitimate, Bill, but the pain and suffering and the damage that gets done, think of all those.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

I understand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

No, I'm with you. And I I absolutely, uh, absolutely, even if physicians don't believe in the dignity of the human person, they don't believe in image and likeness, say, it's never legitimate. You're correct. But it continues to spread the trauma that I'm now seeing, you know, post-abortion trauma from the surgeries. We're now doing chemical abortions 60 to 90% of the time. They've bypassed the surgery. That's why centers are closing. They don't need them anymore. And so what's happening is that we're now doing this in the privacy of our bedrooms, our beds, our hallways, our bathrooms. Right. And they're becoming the new, you now see what you've just ingested and what's happened. The fetus, the little one, the placenta, the large amounts of bleeding and cramping and pain in your home, that trauma is going to continue. So even though I agree it's not legitimate, and I'm with you absolutely, uh, it really is only in the trauma that I'm seeing that people are coming to their senses on many of these issues.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

So one of the things I want to ask our audience to do today, uh, toward the end of this this uh podcast, is I want to ask everybody, it's in our audience audience today to get when the next time they're praying at night before they go to bed, to just take some time and listen. Listen for the voices of the unborn. That are in heaven, they're deafening. The sound has got to be deafening in heaven. God hears every voice that's crying out um for for for justice for uh their lives. Just listen. Ask God to open your ears to hear the babies that are crying out for uh for justice.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

You may not hear anything, but it'll be powerful.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

I know we have barely scratched the surface. Doc, I'd love to have you back on with us. Just because, you know, such an encouragement, you not only gave us the the truth and you're very, you know, you showed us your heart, but really what you had to walk through as a physician and how Jesus got a hold of you. But I think that this is going to be able to help a lot of people understand, you know, I hope so depth of what you're doing, so to encourage the doctors out there, you know, doctors and and we saw this during COVID. We saw many of the doctors that we love and adore, and our brothers and sisters, and they had to, you know, abandon their practice because they wouldn't take the, you know, the jab, and they didn't believe in some of these things. I think that we're going to see a revolt. I mean, we have right now, you probably know the numbers better than I do, but I'm I was looking at the numbers when I went um presented to a number of our native brothers and sisters about a month and a half ago, and they were talking about the lack of doctors, the lack of supply of doctors, how they have to drive two and a half hours to go and deliver their babies. And, you know, they were talking, one of the physicians that was there was talking about how the cost of their insurance was so was so expensive and skyrocketing. And a lot of the hospitals were not absorbing that cost. So they would have to put that out on their own. So there's another catastrophic situation there is that we don't have good doctors going into the field.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Right. Though the the the vi you know, the uh the vineyard workers, we constantly pray, as he told us in the you know, in the word about praying for more laborers in the vineyard.

SPEAKER_04 38:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Because when you're attached to the vine, like I, you know, just meeting um Bill and Judy and family, um they were attached to the vine. And that that virility, that generosity, that greenness, if you want to use that word, was so uh attractive to so many of us. And to actually come alongside and accompany them through birth, which is always a challenge, you know. My wife and I used to do home births for some folks because we can't be risk averse, you know, doing breaches when, you know, once you know what you know and you know what you don't know, it's it's fascinating. But I believe that there is this new springtime coming. Uh yes, we're gonna have to go through a little winter here. Um, but I do think, like anything else, the Lord is never outdone in generosity, and he uses every aspect to make Romans 8.28 come alive. And um, I think this is what your podcast does. I did this podcast because I believe in your sponsor. That's on a medical superficial but deep end. But the way um Bill and Judy and the family affected me, uh because once again, I've touched mercy, I have been healed, I've been redeemed, I've been say, you know, saved. I however at night, when the darkness comes, I'm constantly having to grow again, like Romans 8 talks about, where if I'm not around folks like the cooks, they are feeding me, they're holding me close. And even though I'm an OB and I believe Bill is a lawyer, no, I'm a pastor. Well, pastor, but the law There's a little lawyer in me though. So, no, as an OB, I'm not fan of, I'm not a fan of lawyers, but you know, knock on wood, we haven't been sued over 35 years for things. And there's a certain dynamic here where I think the body of Christ is being built in a way for this time. Yes, not coincidentally. And to be in a program where I can talk about root causes and food and supplements and love and Christ, oh my gosh. Uh, and this idea of uh black robes is very close to my heart because the first in the Catholic tradition, the first North American martyr happened in 1642, and he was a physician. And the Algonquin and the Huron and the Iroquois called him a black robe. And I just want you to know that uh today's my dad's birthday. He would have been 102. Wow. And he's now in eternity in heaven, and so this was a big deal. This was a real big deal for me to be here. So thank you.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

Thank you so much, Doctor.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Let me just do two things I want to toward we'll come toward the end of this podcast. I want to say two things. So I want to talk about something called Project Josiah. Oh, yeah. And Project Josiah is an initiative of America's Black Robe Regiment where we're calling churches and pastors to pray at the nearest abortion center for it to close. Pray for its closure. So we're we're doing that. We all know we tend to know who Josiah was. He was one of the few kings that ended child sacrifice during his tenure as king. He was a brave, courageous man, so that's one thing. And then I wanted to ask you, John, to tell us about divine mercy care.

unknown 43:02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Sure. What God has done, what he's put on your heart through divine mercy care, what what you're trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

So after after he came to me and he allowed me to touch his merciful heart, he said, be excellent. He also said, see the underserved next to the served and follow the teachings in the Word of God. And so we've always seen the underserved through working with pregnancy resource centers and being open to those without the least, not just the least physically, embryologically, but the least in the community. And when medicine began to continue to be broken, we went nonprofit about 15 years into this process, and we're now a non for profit practice. And Divine Mercy Care's mission is to educate. The next generation of healthcare professionals, med students, nurse practitioners, midwives. And for the last two years, that's what I've been working on, alongside continuing to try to see patients. However, it was also to help cover the 30 or 40% of people in our practice, TEPIAC, OBGYN, and Fairfax, who are leased. They don't have full insurance. They may have Medicare or Medicaid or nothing. Or maybe they are part of a mission group that doesn't have full health care services. So we raise money to help cover that delta in order to do that. And we teach this hybrid model, you know, because we've been around for so long, 30 plus years, we're having a, we're having, we're having our gala here in Northern Virginia on the 14th. I just want you to know that this idea, all these other medical practices of all denominational backgrounds, including those that are even secular, have come to us asking us how we do things. That's what Divine Mercy Care has allowed us to do at Tepiak. And I do think that in the end, it is his mercy where the graces that for any of us who have lived in the slop for so long and got used to it and thought that was the norm, that his mercy endures forever. Yes, it does. And it's for all of us. Yes, it does. And when you touch your, when you put your hand inside of him and touch his heart, the fount of mercy, the word becomes alive, and love becomes outpouring. And you're almost like the guy on the cross next to him saying, Hey man, remember me when you're there because I deserve this. And as a former person who provided abortion and did it first, second, and third trimester, even on sick babies, dot down syndrome, extra digits, not perfect, or even the risk of a genetic anomaly, you ended their life. I know firsthand, um, like Paul, even though I'm not Paul, you get knocked off your horse in midstream, and you realize that you're blind and you're asking to see. And it's podcasts like this that, you know, enable us to see and to feel again and to be him, to be his.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Amen.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

Because it's his love that animates. And I'm, you know, even on the political side, I don't think that's like you said, it doesn't change anything. On the medical side, we can say all we want. And I'm I believe that it's ultimately going to be an act of mercy that radically alters our vision to see ourselves as he sees us and realize, my Lord and my God, not like the Pharisee, look at me and my works. Abba, forgive me, for I'm a sinner. The Jesus prayer in certain Orthodox communities. And to really be with him and allow him to be with us.

SPEAKER_04 47:31

That's huge.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Yeah. This is this has been so so good. You know, um, I remember uh years ago when I was down at Regent University, if you remember those Mahesh Shavda came into my office. He's an Indian evangelist, and uh he had an amazing, amazing testimony. And the most amazing thing about having seen the eyes of Jesus when he was translated into heaven for a short period of time. He said, I could look as I looked in his eyes, I could see that he had shed every tear that was ever cried on the earth. Jesus said.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

It was so powerful. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Regent University has been very close to my heart because remember, my time in residency was in Norfolk, Virginia Beach. Our church first assembly was very connected to Regent. And I think one of the first talks that I gave was to their law school on reproductive health because I was doing IVF and many other things, and I could I could express my concerns across the body, soul, and spirit landscape to a school that absolutely cared about truth and justness and life and health and suffering. And so, no, and grace and faith. So, no, thank you, uh, Bill, for sharing that.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

That was great. What a privilege. And I agree with Lisa. We need to have you back. We need to continue this conversation. This has been awesome.

SPEAKER_04 49:15

And uh bless you, bless you, bless you.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

Matt, um, if you hear me, uh I think what I'd like to do is go through that bio again because I I feel like I did a terrible job on it. I'd like to read redo it and memorize it and be a little smoother. Um, I'll close right now. And so I'll close. We we want to, John, do you have your address? You can you give us your address or how people can best contact you? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Yeah, sure. Um, if anybody out there in the audience wants to uh ask questions or get a get a cheap third or fourth opinion, or any students out there who are really struggling with their faith and their profession, remember you were called to this profession by Christ, by God. You were called to this. And I would love to come alongside and accompany you in seeing how you can succeed in this area. And you can get a hold of us at Dr. D R J Bruchalsky, B-R-U-C-H-A-L-S-K-I at one word, divinercycare.org, or at info at divinemercycare dot org. And I would be more than you know delighted in listening to your queries or helping you discern whether this is for you or not, because it's really about one-on-one conversation from someone who's been through it and with all the contacts that I have. There's many resources out there: Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association, the American Association of Pro-Life OBGYNs. But you're not alone. You're never alone with Christ or with folks who have gone before you. And we're real, we're really, we want to come alongside you. Part of our mission in those agencies and with our practice is to help you become the best physician, midwife, nurse practitioner, PA that you can be in a world and in a medical field that might have seemed to be sometimes lost and really dark. And yet there's light there because Christ is there and you can practice your faith. And there are patients who really crave more than just the technology, more than just the it's called slow medicine.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

It's that medicine of where you listen, learn, and love the patient. And we can help you with that. So please reach out. So thank you for that allowing me to put down the email.

SPEAKER_00 52:17

And if you want to contact America's Black Robe Regiment, the pastors who made America, you can email us at Black Roberev at gmail. Is it gmail.com? Blackroberev at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you.

SPEAKER_04 52:34

Thank you, everybody. Again, we want to give a shout out to our special sponsor, Cardi Miracle. You know, there's a product for every single body. And we encourage you to take advantage of the code that is uh on the bottom of the screen here. And again, don't go another day without it. So thank you so much, Dr. John. Thank you so much, Mr. Pastor Bill, and everything that you're doing for everybody out there. God bless everybody.