Sunday School Dropouts

Demonic Encounters & Fasting

Kamryn & Austin

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SPEAKER_02

So do we have any like cool theme music yet? No.

SPEAKER_00

Do we don't have any cool we don't have like a can you can you sing can you sing one for the listeners?

SPEAKER_02

What, like a like a jingle?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I get a jingle. Give it to him.

SPEAKER_02

Sunday school, dropouts, talking about Jesus and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's there's gotta be a little brown at the end. Yeah, no, right. Maybe we'll add that one day. Maybe. Possibly. I mean, hey, if you're listening, you create jingles. Hit us up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, if you make jingles. Kind of. Or if you don't. You just want attention. If you just want to talk to us. You just want to touch. I can't I get Cameron, I can't guarantee Cameron will uh respond. I probably wouldn't. I might. I I probably might be like, you know what, buddy? Since you listened to the show and you did what he was asked of you, you get a high.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh. Nah, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, well, this is week four of Sunday School Dropouts. Yeah, that's true. Um it's been a crazy week. Well, I shouldn't say a week. It's been a crazy like three days for Alston and I.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's been it's been wild. Um uh yeah, it's quite interesting. We just had our um for those that don't know, which is probably a lot of you, me and him kind of had up a young adults uh community group at our local church. Shout out Providence, yet again. Yeah, yeah. It's the second show in a row. We're shouting you out because you deserve it. Very true. Yeah, and uh we expect a sponsorship the next time. Um, no, I'm kidding. Uh so we kind of had that up. Cameron's uh the number one. I'm kind of the right hand man. Cameron's the main guy. And uh we just had our year-end party.

SPEAKER_00

Very true.

SPEAKER_02

We did for the year, because essentially, I mean, this is gonna be gonna be what? When is this coming out? Probably like July July.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, it's is a June is technically the start of like the the trial runs that we did.

SPEAKER_02

We record these way in advance, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, wait, wait. Oh, you're talking about this podcast?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, uh we're they're gonna hear this probably in like Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

This is they're hearing this. Like July at some point. It's like the third week of July.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, this is like the second day in June. So we record these almost like a month in advance. Um, just so you guys know. Um, so we ended it May 31st. Yep. Um, to give you guys a timeline. Um and we had a lot of fun. We had a uh do you want to talk about the uh we hit we played uh c sort of like try not to laugh, we called it Spit Take. Yeah, Spit Take. That was a fun game.

SPEAKER_00

I I enjoyed that. What what we gave everyone a read so look up and filled with water. Yep and so you had to drink the water until your cheeks were full, and then um the goal was Yeah, the chipmunk cheek it. That's what I was doing. Chipmunk cheek it. Uh the goal was the person stood up beside you and told you funny things and you try not to laugh. Yeah. Um, and Austin got me and I got him back. So he did.

SPEAKER_02

That was we we started with me getting him uh because I showed him uh I thought it was gonna get you.

SPEAKER_00

The picture?

SPEAKER_02

No, you didn't read the name. Oh, I did, yeah. Yeah, but that was I thought that's what was gonna get you. I changed your I changed his contact name. Uh he's now Gringo Poppy in my phone. Gringo Puppy. Gringo Poppy. Um and I thought that's what was gonna get you. I thought I was just gonna show you that and be like, by the way, this is your new name in my phone.

SPEAKER_00

That's pretty funny. No, I I that didn't catch me off guard enough.

SPEAKER_02

Then it got me. What got you was I told you what was it? I that me and your fiance went on a Magel together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know why that makes me.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know where that came from. I was just off the dome. It was funny. And uh what'd you get me with? What did I get you? Oh, we're not allowed to talk out of the case. Yeah, I'm not I told you that's like I don't repeat that repeat that joke in my life. That was a uh yeah, he got he got me good with one that uh is not PG-13, which is what this podcast is gonna stack. Very true. We're gonna keep this podcast as PG 13 as possible.

SPEAKER_00

That is very true. Uh yeah, we did it with karaoke contest, and I mean the winners on the pod with me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's true. I did win. I surprised everybody with a hidden talent of mine. Uh, I don't get to do too often with too much stuff, because normally a lot a lot of times in like the music industry and stuff, I'm kind of very behind the scenes. Yeah, I'm not really a front man person.

SPEAKER_00

You're just a simple kind of man.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just a simple man. That's what I sang. I sang Shinedown's version of Simple Man, which is a Leonard Skinner cover. Yeah. Uh I just really like his vocals in that song, so that's kind of like why I chose that version particularly. Yeah. And um, yeah, I was not expecting to win um because your sister had an entire um production. That's very true.

SPEAKER_00

She sing fabulous from high school musical too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and she convinced me to do the lights. That's very true. Run lights.

SPEAKER_00

Often caved in and supported her and even did a whole light show behind her.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, you know what? And I was trying my best to stay on beat. I don't know if you noticed it.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, I did.

SPEAKER_02

I was trying to stay on beat, turning the lights on and off. That's very true. Uh a couple times I messed up because I was like, I'm gonna try and see if I want to see if this one does anything. And it because of that, I missed the beat and I had to get back on beat. But it is what it is. Not like it was a full, it was like what 15 people in the room.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like 15, 20 people in the room. So I was like, It was just a little simple setup. I wasn't in Madison Square Garden, so like I wasn't gonna care that much of about the lights. But uh yeah, I was not expecting the win. I literally looked at your sister beforehand and I said, Congrats on the beach towel. Because that's what we were playing for. Oh, I love the beach package because it was down to me and her because you did the you did a uh like Miss USA version style to tell people what happened. And uh I was like, you had two either what two people tied for third?

SPEAKER_00

Three people. Wait, no, so it was one third, three people tied for second.

SPEAKER_02

Me and McKenzie were up there, and I think it was Mary and Ashlin.

SPEAKER_00

It was Mary, Andrew, and Ashlyn, Hugh McKenzie.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Mary, Andrew, and Ashland, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. And so I don't remember who got third. I think it was Andrew. Yeah, and then Mary, Ashland, and Mackenzie all got second.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, they all tied for second. They all tied for second.

SPEAKER_00

I just I just left McKenzie up there to like tease and taunt you, yeah, mess with you.

SPEAKER_02

That's genuinely who I thought won. Because I was like, there's no way. She had a floaty glasses, glasses, beached out. Like she had it all, man. It was insane. She tried her best, she did her best. She was like a dollar general Sharpe. Absolutely was the best way to describe her. She just brought it up. Five below, maybe. I don't know. Was it five five below Sharpe?

SPEAKER_00

I feel like it was five below Sharpay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Shout out, shout out, Sharpe. Yeah, Ash with Tisdom.

SPEAKER_00

And five below, shout out, five below.

SPEAKER_02

And five below. Five below's great. Sponsor us, please. Please. Um, but yeah, I was not expecting that. Who knows? Maybe this has kind of been ever since then, and who knows? We we can chat about it. Uh I have considered, you know, doing that more, I guess, in a sense, if that makes sense. Um, doing stuff because I did, I did like I was joking but not joking when I told you. I was like, when when is my first love audition? For the for the for the worship collective that we do. Um but yeah, who knows? Maybe stay tuned. But then uh after the karaoke contest, we did Oh, you did we did the Bible trivia before karaoke.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, no, Bible trivia was after karaoke. Was it after my sister won?

SPEAKER_02

Your sister did win. So she got some redemption.

SPEAKER_00

That is true. And then we uh what was after that? We did we announced our summer fun nights.

SPEAKER_02

You did yeah, you did the summer fun nights. Um your little slideshow. Yeah, and which was not in the order that you thought it was gonna be. Very true.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't even know the order of my own slides.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, you I he was talking about a slide before after a slide that we were about to go to, and he was talking about it, and uh, I can't remember what the slides were, but it was about the it was about the inner circle, and then it was about this podcast. Yeah, we were telling our friends about the podcast basically. Uh but his inner circle, he's doing like a Bible study thing, which is probably over by the time you guys hear this, so don't get too excited. Um uh he was he was supposed to talk about that beforehand, but he he thought that our stuff was first. So the moment I hit it and it said table talk, I screamed at him, liar! Just a mess with him because he was because I was like, you don't know, you don't know what you're talking about. It's very true.

SPEAKER_00

I did not um I uh I should have written down the order of that, and I got it.

SPEAKER_02

You should have had a little sticky note or something.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, I should have.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, and then we just kind of all gathered and talked in fellowshipping.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. We could say that. We did. I had some cake and pizza.

SPEAKER_00

It's true.

SPEAKER_02

Um, because and I I was pinging out that night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, let's the uh that night was uh crazy night for you and I. Yeah, it was. And uh, I guess that's kind of what we're talking about today.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I guess this uh yeah, I guess this episode is gonna be about that.

SPEAKER_00

So uh Yeah, I mean it was your last night of freedom before what?

SPEAKER_02

My last night of freedom. Yeah. Uh yeah. Well, I'm always free, Cameron. I'm an American. Bald eagle. Uh you didn't see it. There's a bald eagle right there. That was my bald eagle impression. There's no bald eagle. I'm in a basement. There's no bald eagle. Um, yeah, uh, I I committed to doing a Daniel fast for the month of June. So a lot of personal stuff going on in my life. Um, you know, about to get married, uh, and we recently had to uh kind of kind of postpone the wedding, but not really. Like at least like now where it's kind of like it's happening, we just don't know when. Um, kind of deal, where we had a date set in stone, and now that's not looking possible. Um a lot of stuff going on just in my personal walk and things like that. And uh Mr. Cameron here actually advised me that I should pray and maybe even fast about it. So I prayed and then I was like, am I supposed to fast? And literally all I heard was June Daniel fast uh from the Lord, like just back to back, like bam, bam, like June, Daniel fast. And I was like, okay. So yeah, that's what I'm doing now. By the time you guys hear this, I'll be done it. Um, so I'm kind of okay with talking about it on the pod now because I'm trying not to make it like while on it, not like a huge spectacle, because I hate when people do that. Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, I'm fasting. And it's like, are you fasting because God told you to, or are you just trying to get attention?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, bro.

SPEAKER_02

And uh so like there's like I think maybe I can probably the amount of people that know about it, I can probably um count on both my hands. Like I'm I'm trying to keep it very like you know, you know about it, or like you knew about it and know about it. Obviously, my fiance knows about it. Um my parents know about it, just in case I they get a 911 call. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I mean, and it's also like And Steve S.

SPEAKER_02

Palmer knows about it.

SPEAKER_00

The Bible in Matthew 6, 16 tells us that when we fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do. When you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so it will not be obvious to others that you are fasting. Yeah. But only to your father who is unseen, and your father who sees that is done in secret will reward you.

SPEAKER_02

Like, yeah, yeah. And I'm and I'm trying not to look somber, but let me tell you. I'm two days in and I'm hurting. I'm hurting already. Put a little on the head, bro. Like, I I messed with I told uh my fiance, because I think uh this weekend we're uh taking uh the kids and stuff, the weekend of recording, I should say. Um, we're taking we might be taking the children up to my grandparents. Oh nice. Uh not my kids, but by children I mean my niece and my nephew. Yeah. Uh I have no children that I'm aware of. Um and um we might be taking them up there because they have like a big in-ground pool. Yeah. And they really wanted to go swimming. And Madison, uh, their mother needs us to watch the children um for that day. So Elisha says something about making them swimming. And I said, Oh, well, I'll surprise them and I'll go get them happy meals that day. You know, they she can stay there. They live, they don't live that far from Eisen from Eisenhower Drive. Oh, nice. Okay. Um, so I'll swap in and I was like, and I'll get her something. Yeah. And then I'll get me a 20-piece nugget meal. And then I was like, oh wait, I can't have that. But oh, McDonald's chicken nuggets. I was like, oh, it sounds so good right now. And I was like, anything sounds like sitting there with an app. I'm just sitting there with my apple slices, like currently um I'm doing kind of just fruits, nuts, water, and the occasional veggie, because I'm not a veggie person anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um was never a veggie guy, but I just read before we read this podcast that certain grains are okay, which is going to change my entire direction of this. Like I said, I read that brown rice is okay, and I love brown rice. So I might try and find some ways to make it I almost said keto friendly, but it's not keto. What's the what's the kosher? Is it kosher? Find ways to keep it kosher. But I definitely know the three things for sure I cannot have. I know these for a fact are meat, anything dairy, and sweets. Those for sure are a no-go. Yeah, everything else is like certain things, it's like certain things are okay, certain things aren't. So it's like I'm still trying to like figure it out as I'm going. But now that I know brown rice is on the table, I'm gonna be getting me some brown rice because brown rice is awesome. Throw some uh if I'm allowed to have like lemon juice and lime juice on it, throw some lemon lime, make some lemon lime brown rice.

SPEAKER_00

It sounds really good.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, with a little bit of what's on like with like a little bit of like throw some spinach in there to get my veggies in. Oh, brother. I think I might have just figured it out. There's some brown rice with spinach with some lemon lime juice. Oh man, brother. That sounds awesome. It's way better than the mushy banana I had this today. Because it it it I thought it would harden in the fridge. It did the exact opposite. It mushed so bad, and it was still good. I still ate it, yeah, but it was definitely not the consistency of banana that I like. But yeah, that's that's kind of my thing. You might hear about it for the next uh couple episodes in case it like because we record these on a weekly basis and about a month out-ish or so. Um, so I'll definitely be like, if if I sound annoyed in any of the episodes, just know I'm going through it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh this is what I told Austin I'm headed out of the country for about two weeks. Yeah. Uh next next week I'm actually headed out of leave Friday.

SPEAKER_02

That's a big yeah, that's another big thing that's going on. We haven't even discussed that on here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, I know. I just I I told Austin when we were at dinner last week, I said, I'm glad I'm out of the country for half the month. So I don't have to deal with your anger for those things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for those that don't know, which is probab that's probably gonna be the probably the angriest I will be is those couple weeks.

SPEAKER_00

When I'm not here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but um, yeah, you are is that did you want to discuss that super, super quick? You'll obviously you'll be back and stuff by the yeah, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_00

I'll discuss it when I get back. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Mark Mark it right now on the calendar. We're gonna talk about the thing that Cameron is doing.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. I'm leaving the country, not telling you where I'm going.

SPEAKER_02

Uh for we'll leave it as a we'll leave it as a surprise. My safety and protection. Yeah. And for the for those that are listening, the some of you who are listening probably already know, but don't be telling people.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I just I don't tell hardly anyone I'm going on this trip. Yeah. I mean, and there's there's certain people that do know it, just other people just know I'm taking a two-week hiatus and I'm leaving the country. Um so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We'll have episodes already recorded by that point. Because like I said, um we're kind of going ham with this thing. Yeah, like we're lit this is literally probably like end of June is this episode. And you'll be long gone. You'll have done the whole thing by that point. Absolutely. Yeah, so like we're probably one of you, it might be two months after the trip when you actually hear about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's very true. But hey, it doesn't matter because uh Yeah, who cares? Yeah. This is I mean, podcast, you're not living in real time when you're listening to us talking about VR.

SPEAKER_02

You're aware we're already pre-recording, and I'm just giving you some insider baseball.

SPEAKER_00

100%. Who's on first? What's on second?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I don't know who's on third.

SPEAKER_00

I actually don't know the rest of it. I only know the first one.

SPEAKER_02

Such a good such a good bit. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

But anyway, yeah, so yeah, I have the out-of-country trip coming up here. I leave next Friday, um, and I won't be back until the end of June. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's big. That's happening.

SPEAKER_02

I'll be eating my rice, apples, and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I'll be eating a cuisine that I don't even know if I like.

SPEAKER_02

Uh in case you can't tell, apples are my favorite fruit. I love apples. Apples are good. So did Eve. Eve liked the apple too. That's horrible.

SPEAKER_00

But uh, guess why?

SPEAKER_02

Because I'm a fallen creature. I just love apples. Hey, speaking of fallen creatures, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, why don't we get into that?

SPEAKER_02

Because uh we had a we had an interesting encounter with the fallen creature over the weekend as well.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. So the part that we really didn't talk about about this party is that there was a um woman and for this episode. We're gonna leave her anonymous anonymous anonymous, yeah. Anonymous. That's um, we're gonna leave her anonymous for this episode to you know, obviously protect her privacy, but showed up to our party. Um, and when she walked in, I I don't know, you greeted her before I greeted her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because she was just kind of standing in the corner when she first got there. Like, it was kind of like I'm shy, like I was walking and I I went over and greeted her first and said, hi, I'm Austin, I'm one of the leaders here. Um, feel free to like eat any of the food back there and all that stuff. That's what I did. But she just seemed like a very, very shy, like I don't know anybody, so I'm kind of like kind of gonna be in my own little bubble here until uh which I found out later.

SPEAKER_00

That was not why. Yeah. What that was a beep. That was weird. That was a beep. You got an email. That's what happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I wonder if you guys will hear that in the podcast. And I will never know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Cameron got an email, and we heard it through the headphones. Crazy thing is, I also got an email. Hopefully it's not the same person. No, mine's from uh it was a job site that I never really gotcha. I'd never got off the email chain for.

SPEAKER_00

No. I turned my phone on do not disturb, so now you don't have to listen to it. But anyway, I probably should also. This uh lady came, and yeah, you know, we just thought she was shy. Well, um, I don't know, something was happening in group.

SPEAKER_02

Um, you and I were in the back room talking and Yeah, we were just discussing some stuff about like fall and whatever team meetings and stuff and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So we were kind of just doing group leader things, and um we came out, I decided I was gonna have a seat uh within a group of people that were there, and this woman was also in that group of people. So I have a seat, listen to conversation, and this one gentleman in the group, I was actually talking to him about this podcast, and uh we were kind of having good small talk and you know, just getting to know each other better, talk about the pod, and like you know, Christian faith and topics that Christians need to talk about. He seemed very excited. So he was very excited.

SPEAKER_02

If I see you again and I find out you're not following the podcast, gosh, um, we're going to the playground at three o'clock by the sandbox. Respectfully you'll lose. I'm gonna w ruin you. No. Respectfully you lose. I'd lose? Yeah. I don't know. I'm pretty scrappy.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I also play by street rules.

SPEAKER_00

That's true.

SPEAKER_02

I put I fight street rules. Like if you're in a fight, there's no rules. Just so you know, like everything's on the table. I'm coming for it all.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, hey, okay. But um, yeah, this this uh this guy and I were chatting it up. Really uh really nice guy, loved him, got to know him better, and he's super cool. Um we're just talking about this Pond stuff, and and another gentleman was like, uh, you know, Cameron's super prophetic, which spoiler alert, yes I am.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, he is very prophetic. That's probably the like what out of the out of all the gifts of the Holy Spirit, I would say that's definitely the one that you're tapped into the absolute most, in my personal opinion. I don't know if they if you would agree with that or not, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well was the story that you tell everyone that I that a one one time told someone where they lived.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, yeah. He g he gave like a full testimony word to somebody and he literally described this guy's house. And to this day we don't know like what where he lives, like we don't know that his street address, but the look on his face, he was like You don't understand. Like you described my porch and my my walkway up and like the door. Like you even said like the color of his door. Yeah, the color of the house and stuff. And the color of the house and stuff. And he was like, How do you know that? You know? Yeah. So it's like.

SPEAKER_00

Which, yeah, it's just crazy. And I mean, the word was obviously more than just describing the house to him.

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, that was just like the main bit that like blew everybody away.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And I and you know, it's crazy because the Lord really has done that through me a lot where he's given me like really like random like facts of knowledge about people. Yep. And I feel like it's just so they like believe it's the Lord and like not just me. I can see that. Yeah, I could see that. Like the Lord makes himself known, and he makes himself known in a way that can only like be described as it was him. Like it couldn't have been anywhere. There's no way he would have known that other than I actually to be honest with you, Austin, I haven't talked to that man in two years.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you knew him?

SPEAKER_00

Not well, nothing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, the guy you're talking about the guy with the house. Yeah, the guy with the house.

SPEAKER_00

I I did not talk to him. I have not talked to him in the past two years. And before that, I've talked to him maybe five or six times.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you just you just started going to the men's group we were we attended around that time.

SPEAKER_00

So I mean it was crazy because I had I had absolutely like no knowledge of him, his family. I just knew he was going through a lot, and like we were praying over him, and I asked the Lord to give me a word about him, and I got that crazy image of his house, and so I started describing it to him, and he's like, Yeah, he's like, This is 100% correct. And so I just kept going. Like, what else does the Lord have to say? And I gave him the whole word, and yeah, that's usually how it how it goes.

SPEAKER_02

But um, it's so funny too, because like your words, I don't not to keep derailing the story, but like the words that you give people, it's either like insanely detailed, like bits about the person's life, like describing somebody's house, yeah, or for instance, like the word you gave me that kind of launched this up this podcast, it was about Mario. It's very true. Yeah, I don't know what And you were like you're either like very detailed and like on it, or like you're still on it, but it doesn't make any sense until like something clicks eventually, and then you're like, Okay, I got it now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, and it yeah, I've given man, I think my most common is Tom and Jerry. It's so funny because like the Lord speaks to me through Tom and Jerry. I I don't I can't even tell you. It's crazy how the Lord speaks through like secular television to me.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I've I I would say Tom and Jerry was the first thing that really like taught me about like seeing good choices because that episode of Tom and Jerry where Tom almost goes to hell. Yeah. That's like my very first like, oh, this is what this looks like. I think I was probably like four or five when I first saw it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah. So I I've just given a lot of weird words. Yeah. Um, like sometimes like it's like almost like Jesus told parables. Like, that's kind of how like sometimes my prophetic imagery works, where I'm like praying over people and I'll be like, oh, like you're like a wine press, or like, oh, you're like Tom and Jerry. And like, and I'll explain what I mean, and like then it's I I don't know. I've never once been wrong. I'll just put it out there, you know? Yep. All the words that I have have like hit, smack, dab home. And like, even the words where the person's been like okay and just left, like, man, I'll never forget one time I gave someone a prophetic word and with his wife right next to him, and he just looked at me with a blank face and said, Okay, thank you. Um, and then walked away. And he texted me later that night and confessed to me that he was embarrassed.

SPEAKER_02

He stoned you he stonewalled you could probably because his wife was there. Because his wife was there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he was embarrassed and he said, You know, I don't want you to know, like, or I don't want her to know about this. Um, I've been dealing with X, Y, and Z. Your word made a hundred percent sense. Like, I would love to get together with you and like talk to you about what I'm going through. And bam, mentorship.

SPEAKER_02

Probably shouldn't keep stuff from your wife though, buddy. Sure. Just like to point that out there.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and no one should keep stuff from my wife, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But um, I don't know who you are. No, but if you're hearing this, don't keep stuff from your wife.

SPEAKER_00

He's probably not hearing it. I again haven't talked to him in like two years.

SPEAKER_02

Don't be doing that. Anybody listening to this, if you're married, don't keep stuff from your wife or your husband. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00

Very true.

SPEAKER_02

That's bad.

SPEAKER_00

Amen.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Anyway, so you were talking to this guy about a product. About about the pot and about you being prophetic.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, because the the other gentleman brought the prophetic up. Yeah. And so the woman sitting next to the other dude was I almost said a person's name, and I was like, nope, we're trying to keep everybody anonymous. Absolutely. Um, yeah, we'll only talk about like our close, close friends on this show or like people we know that wouldn't care. Being talking about it.

SPEAKER_02

You're on the podcast or anything like that. You're fair game.

SPEAKER_00

Fair job. But anyway, so this woman sitting beside him was like, Um, can I pray over you? And he's talking, she's she's talking to the guy I'm trying to talk to. And I'm like, I'm just kind of sitting there, I'm like, yeah, like this conversation's just really getting off-railed. Like, I don't know what's going on. Like, she wants to pray for him, but we're talking. And it's like, I just feel like the conversation interrupted, but like the Holy Spirit was in the room, bro, and it was freaking wild.

SPEAKER_02

It did feel it got heavy.

SPEAKER_00

It got heavy. And well, so I get up and I walk away, and apparently Evan starts praying for this girl that walked in earlier in the night. The girl that came that was shy.

SPEAKER_02

Same one, yep. Yeah, and then he's prayed a little bit too. Well, bleep that bleep that name. I can't bleep anything on here. What do you mean you can't bleep it? I don't have the power to you.

SPEAKER_00

You can't say beep. You can't put a beep. I can cut it out though.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah. But anyway, so Evan was praying for somebody. Evan was praying for someone, and we um were um.

SPEAKER_02

Another friend of ours was praying for her, uh started praying for her as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and we we were talking, and um I didn't quite understand what he was saying, but he's like, I just really feel like a chain broke off of this girl. And I was just like, Okay. Okay. So like, what's going on? Like so um I I was just like, what chains are like what like I you know, I don't understand here because I I'm just like, at what point like does this make any sense? A chain just broke off her. Okay, great. She's jumping around, she's dancing, yeah, she's saying the name of the Lord. Like, I'm just you know, she's happy, and and the the other girl's just like she's got a demon in her.

SPEAKER_02

And she was singing stuff, and she was like singing earlier with like another group of girls.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like it bro, it just didn't make sense because Evan's just like it's just like a chain broke over, and the other girl's like, She's got a demon in her.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, Yeah, it went from zero to a hundred real quick. 100%.

SPEAKER_00

And it was so weird, bro. I like, man, I can't, I can't even lie to you. It was so strange. But I was um just kind of cautious about it. So I took Evan out of the room. I said, I want you to explain the situation to me. What just happened? You're saying a chain just broke off her, and she's she's free. And he's like, Yeah, but then this other woman is saying she's got a demon in her. And I was like, Okay, you sit down, I'll get the other woman, I'll take her out of the room, I'll privately talk to her, and she's just like, Yeah, well, you know, um, this girl, like, I invited her tonight, like I'm the reason she's here, and she's got she's like demonically like oppressed. And I was like, Okay, well, is so does she have a demon? She's like, I really think she has a demon.

SPEAKER_02

I wonder how she discerned that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I I don't know, but I think it's from history of knowing this person.

SPEAKER_02

Spoiler alert, she ended up being right. 100% she was right. But uh, I'm I'm curious on how she was able to figure that out.

SPEAKER_00

So, one of the things that has always happened when I have casted a demon out of someone is that if I like I don't I like I know I have the anointing pretty heavy on my life. Yeah. And like all I have to do is usually look a person in the eyes, like cold hard stare them. Yeah, just like wide eye and look straight in their eyes, and it will reveal a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

There's another minister, uh friend of ours who says he uh the same thing. Yeah, very, very similar things happen to him.

SPEAKER_00

So what I did is I walked back in the room and I was just kind of like dancing to the music, just having fun. Like the party was still going on in my head.

SPEAKER_02

I remember when you came in the room and you were dancing, and I was like, because I was not aware of any of this happening until um I'll I'll tell a certain bit when I realized like, oh, I understand what they're doing now. Yeah. Um but like you just came in the room and you just started dancing, and I was like, what is happening? Because I saw you guys leave. Uh-huh. You and Evan. Yeah. We s we said his name now uh a bunch of times. And we so I saw you and Evan leave. I saw you and the other person leave, who I may have said the name already, also, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_00

We bleeped it out.

SPEAKER_02

Um we bleeped it out, or maybe we didn't. We did. At this point, I don't care.

SPEAKER_00

I wrote the measure number down so I could go back and add it.

SPEAKER_02

At this point, I don't care. Continue. Um you saw them leave, and then you and then you come in dancing, and I was like, he's having these secret meetings, and he just starts dancing randomly. I don't know what's going on, but then you eventually you sat down.

SPEAKER_00

I sat down and I looked this girl who was the proclaimed demon-possessed girl. I looked her dead in the eye and I smiled. And man, the minute I looked her dead in the eye and smiled, she clenched her chest and started like dry heaving. And I was like, Yeah, okay. Well, I I actually was proven wrong. She might have a demon kill confirmed. So, yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, uh, Lucifer gives up his identity pretty quick when someone with the anointing walks in the room. Amen. Um, so I I literally looked her dead in the eye and smiled, and she clenched her throat, man, and she starts dry heaving and she runs out of the room, bolts out of the room. Yep. And she runs outside and she's like throwing up, and I chase after, and I invited the girl that told me she was demon-possessed. Yep. And so me and this girl who was trying to tell me that the other one was demon-possessed, I asked if you needed more bodies myself.

SPEAKER_02

Um you told me just mainly to guard the door. Yeah, I said nobody else in that's currently in the room goes out. Absolutely. That makes like a spectacle of it. Yeah. Um, and also it from my point of view, I was telling people not to leave the room. Yeah. And we had to stay here because like I didn't know, like, I knew what was happening the moment you guys said go.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And also at one point, uh, we'll I'll tell the story later, but at one point there was a very loud scream that everybody in the room heard.

SPEAKER_01

I bet.

SPEAKER_02

Um, because uh a friend of ours who was trying to help, he was trying to help so nicely. Uh-huh. Uh, and he and he did help. I'm not I'm not saying that being sarcastic, but he went out thinking that oh, we need to tell them to come inside, and he opened the door and it was just a huge scream, yeah, just burst in the room, and I saw he almost fell over because he's also very like he has a thing similar to me. Like, whenever I can like whenever I feel like a presence of some kind that's not of this world, yeah, I get this like feeling in the pit of my stomach. He gets like real bad headaches, yeah, is what he said. Um, so the moment he opened that door, he got one and almost fell. It almost killed him over right then and there. I don't know if you saw him almost fall. No, I didn't. Yeah, he almost fell. It's crazy. He almost fell opening the door to get uh two people who ended up helping you um come in because he thought we would just needed them to get them inside when in reality they ended up being a big help. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well um, which is crazy because you know when we went outside, I looked to her and I said, Are you okay? And I'm talking about the girl who has a demon in her. Um, I talked to the girl and said, Hey, are you okay? And she's like, Yes, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. And I said, Well, no, I said, You don't look fine. I said, I I you like ran out of the room while I said I just I was just all I did was smile at you. And she just looks at me and she smiles back at me and she said and she keeps going, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. And so I look at her and I say, Can I pray for you? To which she says yes. That's when I knew that was her talking. Yep. Um, but I kid you not, I looked her dead in the eye again and I said, Hey, I believe in the blood of Jesus Christ, and I believe that Jesus Christ didn't only come to die for your sins, but he came for your healing and deliverance too. Yep. Do you have any pain in your body right now? Oh, this is where it goes. In this moment. She clenches her chest and says, My chest is tight, and which I felt it too. I felt it as well, because you know, sometimes the Lord will like highlight places on my body sometimes. Yeah. Um, when other people are in pain. And I said, I felt my chest kind of like a little tight, but I knew hers must have been really bad. Um so I said, Yeah, your your chest is is tightening, right? And you're finding it harder to breathe. Um, and she she's admitting yes to all this. I said, Okay, well, I said, what else um is hurting you? And she, uh her friend that's beside her, the one that invited her to the party, the one that knew that she had a demon there, uh, was like, Oh, it's like her ears hurting her back and stuff. And I said, Great. I looked at the girl who's demon possessed again. I said, Hey, do you mind if I lay hands on you? And she kind of looked kind of weary, but she said yes anyway. And so I kid you not, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Which is probably the demon trying to take over.

SPEAKER_00

The minute, very second I laid my hand on her ear, she contorted her body and screamed like a madman. Like, yeah, it was so devilish, bro. She started wailing. Which was that around the time that the two people we were talking about walked up?

SPEAKER_02

So that's probably what we heard then.

SPEAKER_00

You heard the screams when I laid my hands on her. Yeah. Um, and when I mean lay my hands on her, like I took my hand and just gently like held it to her ear and started praying. Like when you when you lay hands on people, like I there was no physical anything involved, like other than me just simply like a light touching, almost like a light touching, almost like caressing when you're um and I just had my hand there just praying, and her body just started contorting weirdly. Her hands like were like, man, making like claws. Like it was weird, and she was so squirmy, like the demons started manifesting right in front of my eyes. Yeah, which is like so. I was like, okay, here we go again. Because um, spoiler alert, this has happened four other times in the group that I run as well.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, not this particular group that we're running. Yeah. Has it? Yeah. Where was I? Um I did the I moved about the one, and then this one we're talking about. That's two. What are the other two?

SPEAKER_00

From Was I there?

SPEAKER_02

It might not have been. Okay. So I know I'll tell you off camera, but I know of at least in the church alone, at least four.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Those two counting. The well now five if you count the the one we're talking about. Yeah. Um, I know of at least four.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I'll tell you off off off pod. Yeah. I'll tell you about mine off pod. Um anyway, so I have had experience with casting out demons out of people. Um, and I have never been unsuccessful. Except this time.

SPEAKER_02

Which is crazy. Well, I would argue you were eventually successful.

SPEAKER_00

Three hours later.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It just took a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

100%. So it was the craziest thing is I started praying and pleading the blood and getting just like casting the demon out of her, and nothing was happening, and she just kept like like moving her body like she wanted to attack me. And that was the moment where um my sister and my sister's boyfriend ran out from around a corner because they were in the car getting ready to leave, and they heard her scream and wail. Yeah, and they immediately and they immediately like the Holy Spirit like they knew what was going on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the Holy Spirit was like brushed over.

SPEAKER_00

And they they ran over.

SPEAKER_02

So um That was a funny part just a little side tangent. This because this part to me was funny. I still knew what was going on. I wasn't I wasn't trying to make it lighthearted, yeah, but it was really funny at one point. I was watching the door, and uh just to make sure that if they because the door to the church itself was locked by this point.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

So if any of them needed to come in, they had to knock on it and I had to let him in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So Kenzie came in and knocked on the door and let him in. And she just like does like the cave bob SpongeBob thing. Yeah. Where he's like, I need oil. Where's the oil? I need oil. I need oil. So that part was uh we looked for one. There used to be one on the computer desk. I guess somebody took it. Yeah. Uh, but luckily Kenzie had some in her bag. Her bag, yeah. And took it out real quick and then just bolted out the house. I bolted out the room. And it was like, uh the people in the room I had to keep like they kept asking me questions, like what was happening, what was this? And I was trying to be at like telling them, but also being vague about it as possible. Because I also didn't have a whole lot of information. But I wasn't trying not to like freak them out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And or make and/or the worst part, which is what I ended up having to fight, was people being a little too curious, yeah, and going trying to go over there. That's what I ended up having to fight.

SPEAKER_00

Um well, and so it's it's why why I did that, and which I took her outside. It was A, she was started outside. She ran out the building. So obviously it was away from distractions. Yep. Um, and then I told Austin, I said, no one comes out here and no one leaves this building until I cast this demon out of her.

SPEAKER_02

And or if Cameron says that they're allowed to leave.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, unless if I say they're allowed to leave. And you're you might be listening to this and you're like, well, why did he do such a thing? Well, I I believe in honoring like the sacredness of the moment. And I am not a fan when people disrespect the move of God. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They make it like a spectacle.

SPEAKER_00

A spectacle? Yeah. Number one, yeah. I I wasn't this is not an entertainer sport, and not every single person should be around when you're casting a demon out of someone. And that's I'm sorry, but there are people in that room that I believe the demon could have easily attached to.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I was about to say. That's what I was trying to like get. I was like, Yeah, that's my main like thing, is what I was telling people. It's like we don't know what type of demon it is.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not going to be responsible for why it attaches to you. So you need to just stay put, please.

SPEAKER_00

And that's what I'm and also for her protection, too. I didn't want her to be embarrassed if any time she would snap out of it and she would come back to the real version of reality.

SPEAKER_02

And there's like 15 people staring at her.

SPEAKER_00

Like there's 15 people staring at her. And like it was already hard enough when later, when we got the demon out, and she came back to reality, and she was just sitting there and she looked up, and there's five of us surrounding her. Yeah, and she's she's crying. Like, like that, I that is embarrassing. Like, I I get it. Yeah, and I understand. And I wasn't about to allow 15 people in a room to brush in, and like another thing was the one guy's car was parked next to the girl when we were casting the demon out. I know. And I was about it. The last thing I wanted was him to start the car, and there's even one more distraction. Because let me tell you, when we started casting the demon out, this girl, it was so confusing, bro. The spirit of confusion was alive and present in that moment because I just was I was casting out. I've never had such an issue casting a demon out before.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like I've I never truthfully had that much resistance. Um, and bro, the crazy part was, and I don't even know if I told you this, but um when my sister's boyfriend kind of got down next to the woman manifesting, yeah, and he demanded that the demon tell him who he was, and she wouldn't talk. And all she kept saying is, You don't know who I am, you don't know who I am, you don't know who I am. So I took oil on my fingers. Oh, did I? Yeah, I think so. So I dipped my fingers in oil, and then I brushed my fingers across her lips, and I said, In the name of Jesus Christ, I declare and decree freedom over her lips. And right then and there, bro, her lips opened, and you heard, I am the serpent in this like demonic voice.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, interesting. Her lips didn't move, but you heard it. Like she she is like her mouth was like not completely open.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. I man, it was but it like it her. Yeah, it was like it was not her voice. But it wasn't and like, yeah, it was not her. And man, it messed me up because I was like, I've seen a lot, and that I've never seen in my life before. Like it just mm-mm. That was like, gosh, this is something I've never experienced. So at that point, I was like, man, I guess I really don't know what I'm doing. Um, so I'm gonna call people that do know what they're doing, and I gave my buddy a call.

SPEAKER_02

Which by the way, is a beautiful thing if you are in ministry and you're doing anything like this, or just anything in ministry in general, it is a great characteristic to have is knowing when you need help doing something. And just ask for it. Because there's a good chance that if they would have just kept going, yeah, um, a couple things could have happened. Uh, because again, at this point, you guys still don't necessarily know what type of entity that is. So there's a good chance that it could have got cocky and was like, ha ha ha ha, and then like latched onto one of you guys or something. I don't think it would have. No. Personally, now that we with the information that we know now. Um, but like, or just overtaken Finnegan because he got tired, because he was like holding her down.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And like something could happen to him, something could happen to Texas, something could happen to um you or the other person that came in or uh her friend that was there. Um and like so for you to acknowledge that, realize that like we need to hire. I I keep calling him the big guns. He actually texted me today, the guy that we're about to talk to. Yeah, because apparently Apparently have a lot of mail still over there. Okay. But so anyway.

SPEAKER_00

I called him. He didn't answer. And I was like, the Lord was just kind of like in my heart, like, he's home. And I was like, do I walk there? I was like, nah, call his wife. And then his wife will answer. So I called his wife and I said, Hey, I said, is your husband available? She goes, Yeah, he's right here. And so he gives, I give, she gives him the phone, talks to me, I said, Hey, bro. I said, Um, let's preface this with, I'm usually pretty good when it comes to knowing what to do, but tonight I'm clueless. Um, I have a woman manifesting a demon right in front of the church, um, and I can't get it out of her, and no one that I'm like leading with tonight can like get it out of her either. And I said, I've never experienced anything like this, and I just truly don't know what to do. And he's like, Yeah, give me a minute, I'll be over. And man, like rollerboarded.

SPEAKER_02

Ride or die.

SPEAKER_00

Rollerboarded over to the church.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I told I told a friend of mine in here who knew about the situation and was helping us. Yeah. Um, uh, helping me kind of like guard the door, like help people get out as they were trying to leave, because some people did end up leaving.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02

Um I looked at him and I said, Man, the moment I saw that longboard, I knew it was over. He came riding in on a longboard with sandals, demon hair doesn't. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_00

Just he he pulls up and um he gets off and he's asked me what happened. I told her or told him a little bit of what was going on, and um her friend was actually exposing to us that uh some information. The woman who has manifested a demon, her mom is involved with witchcraft in the Dominican Republic.

SPEAKER_02

Bum bum bum.

SPEAKER_00

So Pilot twist. Yeah. Um this was something that kind of latched on to her through her mom casting curses on her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Which are very real, guys. By the way, if you don't believe in like curses, like read your Bible.

SPEAKER_02

It says curses in which there's wit, there's a witch in the Bible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, it and like, and I I hope you know in the islands, witch doctors and witchcraft run wild, bro.

SPEAKER_02

It's real, it's very, very real.

SPEAKER_00

100%. Maybe one day I'll tell the tell the testimony about the witch doctor in Haiti that um Mark Stockland told me.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, by all means, dude.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but um, continuing on so we don't take too much of this time on this episode, but the the um person who was Manning Fest Demon, like her mom was into witchcraft, and like apparently her mom sold her into witchcraft.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, very common, very common practice down there.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, okay, well, this makes tons of sense. Um, so the person who rolled over on the rollerboard to help us out um sat with her. We kind of, you know, got her back to herself. Yeah. Because the demon just really wasn't leaving her. Um, and she sat up and she's telling us her story, and like the Lord's giving like all of us like insane words of knowledge about kind of stuff that happened to her. And like, man, it was crazy. And so we just start talking, we start praying, and we actually get her to pray for herself. Nice. And so that was the point where we stopped casting out the demon, and we actually had her cut ties with what she was agreeing with. Yeah. And then we cast out the demon and then it left.

SPEAKER_02

Which that's probably what needed to happen with.

SPEAKER_00

She had to cut ties with what she was she was uh believing and what she was saying and what she was doing, and then the demon left after that. But the craziest part to me is that as soon as she was done praying, she stood up. We finally got her to stand up, and she was able to actually walk. She leaned up against the post of the church. Um and she's like, I just have a lot of pain in my in my um in my ears. And so our buddy, who I helped, or who I called to help us, was like, well, place your hand over your ear and pray, like repeat after me, we're gonna pray for your ear, but you're gonna pray and you're gonna like you're gonna pray it for yourself, right? Right. And after we prayed, she said the pain got worse.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00

And so he's like, Okay, well, we're gonna pray again, because you know, we both obviously believe that, you know, pray until something happens.

SPEAKER_02

Sounds like it was trying, it sounds like whatever it was was trying to hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Possibly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I I don't know. Um, but the um the the pain was still there and it got worse. She prayed again and she said, Oh, now the pain is in my head. And I we were like, okay, well now like place your hand over your eyes and pray again. Um and so she starts praying and going through this prayer, and I kid you of not, I kid you not, bro. It was the wildest transformation I have seen ever. She stands up straight halfway through when she's praying and starts completely praying on her own, going off script of what this other guy's saying, and she just starts going at it, she's declaring things, and she is like, man, taking taking authority over her her pain, right? And so when the pain goes away, she starts jumping and dancing and like stomping on the devil's head, basically, right? Yeah, and then like bro, she's jumping up and down on the ground that she was like throwing up on. It was it was insane. And then uh Finnegan, my sister's boyfriend, um was saying, if you have to pray in your native tongue, pray in your native tongue. So all of a sudden, she starts like she starts ripping out this prayer where she she's just walking with her eyes closed. She actually doesn't even know she's walking, like and she she doesn't remember what she prayed, by the way.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I I knew that she was from the DR, she spoke Spanish. Um so what I did was when she was praying, she had her eyes closed. I kind of like snuck my way up behind her and like put a Google Translate right beside her to see if I could understand if she was praying in like you know in Spanish or if it was just something completely different. No, like I was just um because I didn't understand Spanish, I was making sure that um like it was good prayer, you know, and not bad. It was her and not something else because I'm like at that point I still didn't know like what was in her of anything. And like I just felt like the Lord's presence just dwelled, like she man, she like started glowing, bro. Like it was crazy. And I took a screenshot as a testimony to this night. Um, in Spanish, she said, Say toy acabo, you soy libre, which means you're over, I'm free. Yep. And she was declaring like that and more in this time of prayer, and she opened her eyes and I was standing right in front of her, and she just gave me this big hug, and she's like crying in my arms. And then she gives everyone else a hug, and like, man, she left free that night. And when she went back into the room, now mind you, yeah, this all happened over the span of three hours. From the moment I found out about the demon till the time she was free, it was three hours. Nope. Um and man, like it was the most beautiful deliverance I've ever seen in my life. Uh, she went back inside, man, she's a completely different person. Yeah, like when when I say she was transformed by the power of the Lord, mayor, like bro, she was she was a new woman when she walked in that room.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she sat with she sat with like everybody instead of being in the corner, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And she was talking to people, she was more confident, like she sounded like this was like this was like she was genuinely her and she was happy about it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so um, yeah, that was my night.

SPEAKER_02

That was yeah, it was fun. We got we got done around midnight.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And you and I had to go to work the next day. That's very true.

SPEAKER_00

I woke up the next morning at 5 30, and you probably woke up earlier than that.

SPEAKER_02

Five. Woke up at five, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So that was uh that was crazy, but um I figured we would just kind of update everyone on our lives.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that was it was a quite an interesting day. Um, like I said, that's like the fourth the fourth one I'm aware of, the sec third one that I was present for.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey, and I I think what what people need to realize, like the reason we talk about this kind of stuff, and like the reason we handled things in the manner we did, like casting out demons is not for everyone.

SPEAKER_02

Um yeah, don't just go and try this. It's man, use some wisdom.

SPEAKER_00

I actually I have I have five leaders of my young adults group, including me and you. Yes. And I did not let you, Evan, or your fiance out there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because neither one of us, like I have some experience in it, but um those two definitely don't. Well, yeah. Um, and but I don't I still don't think I would have been of any use in that moment.

SPEAKER_00

And well, that's the thing. Like, know like who you are, and like and I'm telling you, it is dangerous to try to cast out the stuff.

SPEAKER_02

I have a lot more training I would need to do for sure before I went and anything.

SPEAKER_00

If if you are not it, man, if you are not like set in stone that like this is like happening, like do not try it. Um this is not something that just anyone can do. Um, and it it is like I feel like a lot of the Christian church like makes up like Christian spells and incantations, yeah, when it comes to like uh casting out a a demon, you know? And sometimes it's it's different every time. Sometimes it's you pray and it leaves. Sometimes you um like the Bible even says that you know, some some demons don't don't come out without fasting and prayer. Yeah. Fasting being a part of it.

SPEAKER_02

And there's a lot of times too where I've seen things where I saw a video one time where these people were um I can't remember if they were on a plane or on like a bus or something, yeah. But they were trying to like cast this demon out of this person when it was it was revealed through like records and stuff that the person it he wasn't possessed, he was on methamphetamines.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it's like he didn't need holy water, he needed dark hand, dude. Like, you know, like but because that they saw things that they dubbed a demon, they were like, in the name of Jesus, we're casting you out, and this, that, and the other. When in real the guy was dying. You know? So it's like you need to have. I know I said training earlier. I I mean, I guess that's technically the right term for it.

SPEAKER_00

Like, you definitely would I would I would definitely say this is something that you need to you need to have sit down with somebody who's more yoked than you are. Absolutely, be mentored into this conversation. Yeah, mentored that's the one I'm looking for. Because like, yeah, you know, I I'm telling you, like, there's different levels of faith, bro. And um like I love the um CEV Bible.

SPEAKER_02

Um what is the C E V Bible for people that don't know?

SPEAKER_00

I actually don't know what it what it stands for.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. But um so they won't know either.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I don't really know what the C E V means, but like it says um in in Matthew in this that Jesus says it is because you do not have enough faith. But I can promise you this if you had faith, you're larger than a mustard seed, you could tell this mountain to move from here to there, yeah. It would be and everything would be possible for you. Yep. And like man, it is um like does require faith to kind of to move these things out of people, and it is not like man, it's just not anything that everyone can do because yes, it requires faith for it to happen, but then like you have to be able to have discernment and wisdom too. Yeah, like I understand the Bible says, yes, like you have kind of faith you can make a mountain move. Great. Well, like what like man, if if you do not do this right, it can be dangerous to you and the people around you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, like I said, that was like uh my big thing with the people inside was I kept telling them, I was like, I don't know what type of entity it is. Yeah, I'm not going to be responsible for you going outside and it latching onto you because there is a thousand percent of a possibility that that could happen. Like I said, uh with the information that we have uh now, we don't believe that it was a type of entity that just like jumps from person to person. We think it was just a soul, yeah, solely on her, only wanted her, didn't want anybody else. Yep. Um, which we know that now with the benefit of hindsight, but at that moment I didn't know. I didn't want them to be the pigs in the situation of like when Jesus cast the demon out the man. I didn't want them to be the pigs, I didn't want them to jump off the cliff. And I t I had, you know, I had to keep telling people like, hey man, like, or and they were asking me questions about demonic possession and things like that, and I was trying to answer it the best I could.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Cause they got a point. We sh I started with not telling people what was going on, that there was just an emergency. Yeah. And like I said, the moment that door got opened and that scream was wailing, everybody immediately knew, like, oh, there's a demon.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And uh, I was like, okay, guys, cat's out the bag. Yes, they're exercising something out there right now. Again, don't want you to leave for obvious reasons.

SPEAKER_00

But it's like Austin's fasting and Cameron's exercising.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Austin, I'm fasting, Cameron's exercising. Um he's got a uh membership to who knows something.

SPEAKER_00

Demonslayer.com. I don't I don't even know. I'm just making it up. Anyway, but yeah, uh casting demons is not uh something that everyone should be doing, and like I am very, very like protective when it comes to that. Um I I'm just saying that we should proceed with wisdom, caution, and uh a lot of a lot of um you know consideration doing this. So um yeah, I think that's kind of all for our little update. And also don't go be seeking this stuff out either.

SPEAKER_02

That's very true. Don't go be seeking this stuff out. I never well I used to do that and I had to I had a lot of healing I had to do in my early walk because there was a lot of things that I didn't like or that that I used to like that now I realize like, oh, this was a bad idea. Yeah, and there might even still be some things that I just have I'm not aware of. Don't go be seeking it out.

SPEAKER_00

But absolutely, and I and I certainly wasn't like fishing to cast a demon out of it. I was just there for a party, bro. Yeah, like and the Holy Spirit fell in the room, yeah, and like it was like there's one church. There it is.

SPEAKER_02

I won't say the church, and I won't say the pastor, but he he frustrates me. There's one church that makes people pay a membership, and their membership is two things. We'll guarantee you'll see a demon get cast out, and also we'll show you how to cast out a demon if you give me five grand a month.

SPEAKER_00

That's insane.

SPEAKER_02

Or like five hundred a month or whatever it is, and I'm like, no. That's horrible.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well anyway, I think that was enough for this episode because this is pretty long.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think this is this will probably be one of the longest episodes we've done so far.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe not the longest yet, though.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe not. We'll see.

SPEAKER_00

But uh yeah, maybe we'll then we'll go a little more in depth about um demons and exorcism and stuff like that in a later episode.

SPEAKER_02

But for now, um And maybe we'll tell her the stories we're talking off pod. Maybe we'll tell on pod one day. Very true. But right now we're going off pod.

SPEAKER_00

And very true. I'm going to the studio so I can bleep out your little bloop that you made earlier.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's okay. Well, we said a couple people's names. Yeah, no. I had to take another one. It might be fine. But I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Jesus loves you guys.

SPEAKER_02

If you're listening to us, Jesus loves you. So do we.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you for listening. Can you sing the jingle one time before we leave?

SPEAKER_02

Sunday school dropouts, talking about Jesus and stuff. I lost the rhythm.

SPEAKER_00

Goodbye. Post editing, guys. I hope you liked my little bleep that I added. Uh maybe I'll throw that in another episode. Until then, see you later.

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