Fantasy Football Space Podcast | Episode 4 | June 24th 2026

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In Episode 4, Nicho, Nader, and Tipp dive into the latest NFL news, This or That, a Dynasty Trade, Sleepers, and Breakouts.

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SPEAKER_05 0:31

You're on the clock. It's the second round. You need a running back. Chase Brown and Amaria Hampton are on the board. Which one are you taking? Let me know in the comments down below. I mean, it's a very straightforward answer, right? I mean, at least to me, it's a straightforward answer. But of course, you know what? We got a couple of people that are about to duke it out. Tip, on one hand, he says you should have Chase Brown. Nico, on the other hand, says you should have Omarion Hampton, and both of them are a no-brainer. I'll be the judge. Tip, you get to start it off. Second round, you're on the clock.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Yeah, it's it's not particularly close. And I'm going to tell you why. Chase Brown has done it in this offense. He's done it in an offense with Joe Burrow, who, yeah, I'm not going to knock Justin Herbert, but Justin Herbert and the new offense that's being instilled in LA, it's going to take some time. You know, with the Bengals, we've already seen what this team has done. It's particularly in the red zone, where last year they ranked number three in red zone touchdown percentage. And look, I'm going to tell you right now, the last three weeks of the season, check this out, guys. Last three weeks of the season, Chase Brown, 32 points, 29 points, 19 points. Chase Brown won people seasons last year, last won people championships last year. And I'm going to tell you another thing, too. Not only that, 93% red zone touchdown percentage. 93% is what you got in those championship weeks from the Bengals. And I think Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, they're going to be on a tear this year. You already know Chase Brown has his explosiveness. You also know he could catch the ball too, right? So it is pass-catching prowess. Look, this guy catches the ball easier than some of the running backs in this league. And I'm going to tell you one of the reasons why I think this year he's going to break what he did last year when it comes to receptions. Last year in receptions, guys, he did 69 receptions. We like the number 69, but I think he's going to do double. I think he's going to do more than that. I think he's going to do 80 receptions this year because you got a guy in Joe Burrow who's not afraid to throw it to his running backs. He's not afraid to sling it across the field. He's going to stay healthy. But the defense, the defense is going to be a little bit better. We saw last year with this Bengals defense that the defense started to hold its own, particularly in the run game. So I think the defense is going to take another step forward. And I think that they're going to be in more meaningful situations with Chase Brown. And if they happen to get into some shootouts, Chase Brown again. He's their workhorse. He's their guy. Samaj P. Ryan, the other guys on this team, they're not, they're not going to be touching the ball as much as Chase Brown will at the end of the season. The only thing you got to hope for is that he stays healthy. Amara Hampton's got a lot more to worry about, guys. He's getting a new offense. You've got to worry about when he's in these players and in these new offense, especially younger players, it's going to take them a little bit of time. It took him some time last year to get acclimated to the league. Now it's going to take time getting acclimated again and learning a new offense. So I think that the Chargers offense will be a great offense when the season is all said and done. But coming out the gate, it might sputter a little bit. And not only that, one last nugget I'm going to tell you the Chargers also have other running backs on their team. Kamani Videl, they've got Keat uh Keaton Mitchell on there as well. Like these they're going to utilize some of these other running backs, if not all. And it could turn itself into some three-team, three-man committee, whatever you want to call it. And if it happens, then that's going to be a direct hit to Amaria Hampton's fantasy value.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

You want to talk slow starts? Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals are notorious for a slow start, year in, year out, and then all of a sudden come week five, week six, week seven, they do turn it up a notch. So I know you made a lot of valid points in regards to, you know, the offense with the Chargers, perhaps, you know, starting out slow, but eventually getting there. And I hear you on CB. Like, I totally get it. He's got a lot of um receiving upside, which we love out of running backs. But to me, Hampton is the home run pick. The Chargers completely revamped their entire offensive line, they're getting healthier. They brought in Charlie Kohlar, who, let's get real, he's not a pass catching tight end. He is a run blocking tight end. Mike McDaniel. Yeah, but they didn't bring him here to catch when they got Gadston and Joke. Mike McDaniel knows how to maximize an RB's efficiency. We saw it for years with uh Devon A-Chain over in Miami. You know, I fully expect him to be involved in the receiving game, Hampton, that is, the way that A-Chain was in Miami. And although Hampton wasn't on the level of Chase Brown in regards to having that receiving upside, I think that's gonna be a lot different story this year. You know, I believe that the Chargers truly want to play a ground in pound game with Jim Harbaugh football. You know, he did it in his time in San Francisco, he did it over at Michigan, and he wants to get back to that smash mouth football, and it's gonna run through the 2025 first-round NFL uh pick for the San Diego Chargers or the Chargers Los Angeles Chargers, Omari and Hampton. Now, listen, Brown thrives on volume and opportunity. He can be a three-down back, but the Bengals love to put Samajay Pirine in the game because he is a better pass blocker. Hampton is truly built like a workhorse. Uh he's six feet, 221 pounds, and has he's in an offense that truly has an identity of running the ball. The identity of the Bengals is gonna be going through Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So Brown needs receiving volume and opportunity to fully pay off at his current price. Whereas Hampton, on the other hand, you're gonna get the explosive plays, you're gonna get the goal line work. And in fantasy, you want to check out the wait, you're not gonna get explosive. You're gonna win the league. That's how you win the league is drafting upside. And with the upside and the explosiveness that Hampton has compared to what Chase Brown has from an efficiency standpoint, to me, makes it a no-brainer that Hampton is the play. He's the guy who can finish as a league-winning RB1 compared to a safer floor in Chase Brown as an RB2.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

I okay, Matter. Give it because because he, you know, he said the he said the explosive, uh, explosiveness. Chase Brown's probably one of the most explosive running backs in the league. I I the guy, the guy, no, the dude is explosive. Go out there and look at some of his tape. No, he thrives on opportunity. He does thrive on opportunity, but he's gonna get it. He's gonna continue to get the opportunities. He's gonna be able to do that. Samaj P Ryan, Samaj P Ryan will be sprinkled in there. I'm not gonna say he won't. Okay, I I get that. But for the for the for for the most of the for most of this uh of this season, you gotta Chase Brown's still young. He's gonna get majority of those touches. He he's got he's a safe bet for anywhere from 15 to 20 touches weekly. Like this, it's just just on the sheer volume alone of the passing.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

Yeah, see, the problem is is you guys both make compelling arguments, right? I think Tip conveyed his argument slightly better. That being said, me personally, I'm going a Marion Hampton over Chase Brown. Uh, the but like let me give you a couple reasons why. One, the Bengals run the ball to keep the pass offense honest, or the pass defense honest, I should say. The chargers run the ball to keep running the ball, essentially. Like, they're gonna run the ball all three downs if they're able to. The Bengals, they might run it one or two downs just because, like, Joe Burrow's tired from throwing it. Yeah, they have to, like, you just can't throw it 50 times a game. Uh Chargers probably have a better offensive line. Chargers probably are in uh uh a division more setup for them to run the ball. Um, the only reason why I would sit here and say, Oh, yeah, you want Chase Brown's safety is if you're afraid of Keaton Mitchell or is it Michelle? Sorry, I don't I don't remember his name. No, it's Mitchell. Mitchell, yeah. Yeah, Keaton Mitchell. He is to me the only reason why you wouldn't draft Omarion Hampton if he uh does have uh an explosiveness in this offense, the way that Mike McDaniel does like in his speedy RBs, then he's gonna eat into Omarion Hampton's workload, especially the explosive plays, the red zone work, so on and so forth. Um, if you're not afraid of Keaton Mitchell, then Omarion Hampton is easily a guy you're gonna want to take.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

So you're not afraid of Kamani Vidal either.

SPEAKER_05 9:55

Ah god, he's you know, every year there's a running back that gets on the field just because the guys in front of him are injured, and that's just Vidal. Like, if you're sitting here telling me Vidal is better than either one of those two, no, I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

I'm not saying that. But but he's but he's he's gonna get he's gonna get some touches, though, right?

SPEAKER_05 10:13

He should I mean he gets like four touches a game. Like, is that really gonna ruin Amarian Hampton's fantasy value? No, like same way Samaj P. Ryan hops on the field, gets like three, four receptions a game. It's not gonna ruin Chase Brown's value either. Okay, okay, but then again, unfortunately, like me personally, I like Amarian Hampton better. I do like Tip's arguments slightly more.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Yeah, um oh look, 23 days, you're right, man. 23 Michael Jordan days until training camp for your for your boys.

SPEAKER_05 10:47

So um so for you, but no, that being said, I will say 69 is better than 80. I don't care how you feel you said 80's better, it's not better.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Well, 80, well, 69, 69 is great, but 80 is better in fantasy because 80 receptions is what he's gonna get this year. I I think it's I think it's a I think it's uh I think it's already set in stone that he can get 80 plus um receptions as long as Joe Burrow's there and as long as Joe Burrow is healthy. Um let's take a let's take a trip down memory lane, okay? Let's take a trip down memory lane. Um last year, you remember Joe Burrow didn't play but what maybe five games the whole season? Uh no, I'm sorry, I take that back. He played six uh wait uh six games the whole season. I'm not gonna count that week two against the Jags. He we got injured with second second quarter. Um Chase Brown had one, two, three, four, five, five games last year where he had over five receptions, guys. Like that, that that's that's big. That that's that's you're you're getting the ball thrown to you. Now, a lot of those games they were probably behind. I get it. You know, they they probably lost a lot of those games, but I think that this is gonna be one of those years where they lean on him even more in the passing game, especially if I think the defense has gotten better, but if that defense does take that step back or doesn't do what I think that that defense can do, I think that Chase Brown's gonna be relevant across the board, and he's relevant in the red zone. The team is efficient in the red zone. We saw that, especially when Joe Burrow came back the last three weeks of the season. I like it. I just like Chase Brown, man.

SPEAKER_05 12:31

Fair enough, fair enough. Now where's our new judge? Nico, help us out on the new one.

SPEAKER_04 12:38

I'm stepping up on the podium here after taking my L the tip on Chase Brown there. But uh, listen, a lot of good points, guys. Uh, good combo. So, our next battle, we are taking it over to the tight ends. We have uh, let's see, we got Natter, who's going to be uh defending and speaking on behalf of Mr. Brock Bowers, and we have Tip who's gonna be uh speaking on behalf of I like how you I like how you turned it into a courtroom, Nick Nico. Hey, I mean the judge is at the podium and we are off.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

God oh, there it goes. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay. So Nico, it didn't matter. You go first. I went first last time, so you go first because you got my guy Brock Bowers.

SPEAKER_05 13:23

I just want to know I hate tight ends, I don't think they belong in fantasy football. That being said, Brock Bowers, his only weakness is his hairline, that is his only weakness. And say he took his owner's hairline and they like switched, unstoppable. He he'd already be in the hall of fame if he had his owner's bowl cut, haircut, and all that good stuff. But then again, he is on the Raiders, which might be another weakness if you really want to think about it. But this guy is the best tight end for fantasy that you could possibly draft in the upper echelon rounds, not Trey McBride, not Sam Laporta, not those rookies or wannabe rookies that just got drafted. I don't even remember their names, so on and so forth. Brock Brown is gonna be the guy because he is gonna be on a team that's gonna be, you know what? I'm sorry to say this down a lot. He's gonna have the passing script to allow him to put up fantasy football points. And realistically, when we want to break it down, he is the leader of that passing offense. Like the passing offense goes through him. We talk a lot about best balls and sleepers on people you could take in the wide receiver position for the Raiders. But realistically, all it is is speculation, um, conspiracy theories. If you want to go that far, the ball must go through Brock Bowers in that passing offense, making him the premium option for you to take. And of course, you could talk about Ash Long Gente, but you know what? He's gonna get tackled behind the line of scrimmage, making that second and 13 perfect for Brock Bowers to get, of course, more fantasy football points. He broke, of course, the rookie record for receptions last year. He missed, I think it was six games, and of course, had a down season. Even though he had more touchdowns, he had less receiving yards, which only means his sophomore slump is behind him, allowing him to, of course, accelerate forward and be the number one tight end. Rest my case.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Oh, so you're saying the number one tight end is gonna be Trey McBride again, right? So, okay, I'm gonna tell you why. Uh Matter. Uh, so it's quite simple. You you talked about the volume, you talked about how how much volume the Raiders are gonna get. I'm not quite so sure because I mean they're still gonna have a good defense. I think their defense is gonna be much better. Whose defense is gonna suck is Arizona Cardinals. Their defense is gonna be terrible yet again. Last year, with under Drew Petzing as their offensive coordinator, they ended up leading the league in pass attempts. Not too far behind them was Mike LaFleur, who was the offensive coordinator for the Rams at 35 pass attempts. They are going to pass the ball quite a bit again. It's gonna be those situations where all three of the pass uh catching targets can eat in fantasy. And if one of those guys gets banged up, Trey McBride, he proved it last year. You know, the years before that, he averaged even going back to his college. I want to say, even going back to his high school days, if I'm not mistaken, two touchdowns per game or per season. And then last year he has that blow up because Jacoby Brissett was there and they passed the ball a ton. I mean, that it's gonna continue yet again with Trey McBride. This offense is going to utilize the passing game because they're running backs. We already know what's going on over there. Uh, that's gonna be a question that marked on its own. So they're gonna pass a lot. The defense stinks. Trey McBride is your number one tight end for the second year in a row. Look, I'm a Raiders fan. I throw all my allegiances out of the window, though, when it comes to fantasy football, and I haven't speaked the truth. I no, I guess I do. I do too. What do you mean? I know I don't.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

No, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

I haven't I haven't drafted a I haven't drafted a Raiders player actively until last year, Natter. How are you gonna tell me?

SPEAKER_05 17:11

Why?

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Because the Raiders have stunk when it comes to fantasy football.

SPEAKER_05 17:15

We stink when it comes to fantasy football.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

We stink. I'm not gonna put players that stink on my damn team. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna go again Ashton Genty because Ashton Genty is gonna catch a lot of passes too this year. And so is Jalen Naylor, and so is Trey Tucker, and so and so is Jack Beth. Like they are going to have weapons around Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers is gonna be that the the guy, but you know what happens sometimes to the guy, you get phased out of the game and you have to have other players step up. I think that we'll see some games where they just triple team, get Brock Bowers off his game, break it bracket coverages, whatever you want to get say to get him off his game. I think that they try to do that, the defenses, because they know what they they're facing if they don't. Um, so I think that you know he's got a little bit more to cover. And I'll I'll leave you with this last point because people are gonna say, well, what about uh Marvin Harrison Jr.? What about Michael Wilson? Yes, those guys will get targets as well, but you can't like you can't deal with those two guys as headaches and then have to deal with Trey McBride in the middle of the field. Those two guys open up the middle of the field for Trey McBride. So while Brock Bowers is doing all the work trying to open up the field for everybody else, Trey McBride is just in there eating all these all these easy intermediate passes and short yardage passes, and that's what Trey McBride is going to do again this year.

SPEAKER_05 18:40

Now, you say that, but he doesn't, I and I say he, I mean Brock Bowers doesn't have to go against the Niners defense, the Rams defense, the Seahawks defense twice a year.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

It didn't matter last year. I mean, yeah, I mean I guess matchup proof, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:58

He can be, but no, he's garbage time type of player. That's not what you want when you're facing and drafting somebody in the second round. You want somebody who's gonna be a little bit more consistent and not necessarily garbage time proof. Now, actually, I say that, but Brock Bowers is the definition of garbage time, considering he's on the Raiders. But that being said, I just want to know.

SPEAKER_04 19:22

I just want to know, Tib, did did this one did this one hurt you? Did it hurt?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

No, no, it didn't hurt too bad. Because I mean, look, you you you brought up well, I'm gonna tell you something. You brought up the San Francisco 49ers, you brought up the Seattle Seahawks, you brought up um the LA Rams as well. I mean, he he he torched the Seahawks uh twice, both times he played it. Well, the well, one time he really torched them, yeah, 127 yards. But he scored against all these teams. The dude is just matchup proof, the dude is a problem, and I think that as long as he can keep his touchdowns up, I didn't I didn't expect the 11 touchdowns that we got last year, but if I if we can, I was thinking anywhere from about four to six touchdowns, if we can get six to eight, I think he can finish right at that number one uh position yet again. And yeah, it did hurt a it didn't hurt because again, like Trey McBride, you you have to have him as number one. He what he did last year, you have to have him as number one. Brock Bowers, the other you the other situation you have to worry about is the knee. The knee never was right last year. He said it. He said the knee was not right, and you just gotta wonder if it I believe it was a PCL injury. I'll double check that. You guys can fact check me on that. Those things can linger, man. If those things linger, uh I I fully account that he's all healthy this year, but it could just take one of those crazy little plays or picks that that happened in the in the game, and he's back on the shelf again. I tray McBride is just just that dude, man. I I I really think that he can replicate what he did last year. And that's catching up with the Cardinals. We did our catching up with the Cardinals with Trey McBride.

SPEAKER_05 21:03

And right now the pick is in says the best or McBride is the best all-around tight end in all of football. Strongly disagree, strongly disagree. He's a great pass catcher, not the best tight end in football. Strongly disagree. Actually, he's not even George Kittle over there, and St.

SPEAKER_04 21:17

Matter's got George Kittle over there.

SPEAKER_05 21:19

Yeah, he's not even the best tight end in his division. So, like, let's let's let's calm down on that one. No, George Kittle's all around, he's and like he's probably not even the best tight end on the Rams, too. Like, you know what? They somehow always show up on the field scoring touchdowns, and you know what? He's probably not even the best. Yeah, he's probably not even like the second best tight end in the division either. When you when you really want to think about it like that one, somehow it always works out that way, anyway. Uh Nika, who I gotta tell you, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_04 21:48

Um, I hate to do this, but I'm giving Tip the full on sweep the two and oh even though, even though personally myself, I'm taking Bowers over McBride, if I'm in the situation. So very similar to the first round. Um, but hey, let's hop into some news and notes. Oh, Nico, Nico got some news and notes.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Nico's news.

SPEAKER_04 22:16

Yeah. All right, boys. Well, before we jump into the next round of battles and hope y'all like that uh first segment, congratulations to Tip for the clean sweep. Uh, let's take a quick lap around the league uh with Nico's news. We've got extensions, camp notes, player usage updates, and a few things that could actually matter for fantasy football. Some of it, you know, it might be noise. We're still in June. Some of it might be real, but either way, we're gonna talk about it because it's been reported. And I know that Matter is sitting over there pulling out his hair, thinking about this very first one. Kyle Pitts was extended three-year, $54 million, 36 guaranteed, the largest three-year contract in tight end history.

SPEAKER_05 23:05

God, tip, tip. You know what? When you remember to unmute your microphone, I'll let you have the floor on it.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

I'm unmuting it right now because I told you, Natter, we're doing the pits dance, baby. We're doing the pits dance.

SPEAKER_05 23:17

It doesn't mean anything.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

You still try to do look, you got Kevin Stefansky over there. Kevin Stefanski is the man. Look, there's a reason that this has happened. Um, so whoever the quarterback is going to be this year, whether it be Tua Tungabailoa, whether it be Michael Penix uh Jr., I dude, you've gotta be excited with these players that are getting extended, getting their money, getting their bag. Drake London just a couple days ago. Now you got Kyle Pitts. I think that Kyle Pitts is easily gonna be a top seven finisher and tight end this year. Um, I'll even, you know, I'll go bolder than that, dude. I think I think I think I think he can I think he can replicate what he did last year. I think he can finish inside the top five. What was he? What was he last year, Nico? Top three?

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Kyle Pitts? I don't think he's he was numeral dos.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Number two, yeah. I don't think he can do that. I don't think he's gonna get there, but I think he can finish in the top five. I said top seven, I'm gonna go a little bolder, top five this year. Um, I think it's just gonna be sheer volume for this guy. Um, this this offense is gonna be a nightmare, man. I mean, you got B. John Robinson you got to deal with, you've got Kyle Pitts and Drake London. Uh, this is gonna be some some trying times in in uh in the NFC South for those defenses. Uh, it's gonna be an intriguing um year for that that division as well. So, but I I'm still I think I love it. I think we're gonna do the Kyle Pitts dance yet again this year. Um, and I look, shout out to him for making that money. So now hopefully, can he do it again?

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Yeah, I mean, hey, good for him, but uh, I think he's trash. I think he always will be trash, and I think I will be uh correct when it's all said and done, buddies. All right.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

I mean, for me, it's it really boils down to if you look at Pitts's production when London was active and healthy, it was mid, like the definition of mid. You know, you're looking at your you know, four for 45, 5 for 70 is like his ceiling. It wasn't until London was missing time towards that latter part of the year, but at the same time, there's no denying the guy's athletic ability, he's 25 years young. You know, I personally believe that if Tua is the quarterback, that would be better for um Kyle Pitts than if it was Penix. You know, Penix has a stronger arm, he likes to pepper his ex-receiver, aka Drake London. Um, I do feel that Tua is more of your short to intermediate precision passing, which would obviously benefit Bijan and Pitts, but we'll see. I lean towards Tua. What about you guys? You guys think it's gonna be Tua or a Penix?

SPEAKER_05 25:56

I think so too. I think, yeah. It's like, oh, do you want a dumpster or a trash can? Uh they just they just want another lefty, man. They just want another lefty. Hey, I'm a lefty. Can I like can I like put my like name in the hat?

SPEAKER_04 26:11

Try out, see how it goes for you. Um, the NFL is declining to hold the supplemental draft this summer, currently leading the 2027 draft as the only way that college quarterback Brandon Sorsby is able to enter the NFL. Josh Downs, uh Shane Steiken, Colts head coach, plans to move Josh Downs all around the formation, giving him ample opportunities to play um not only in the slot, but also on the outside and be able to exploit mismatches against opposing defenses. Uh, in OTAs, Downs was seen on the outside plenty um during minicamp, making plays no matter which quarterback was directing the offense. I really like Josh Downs this year. I truly do believe. I mean, you have Michael Pittman, who was shipped out of town over to Pittsburgh. You're now looking at, you know, anywhere between 100 and 120 vacant targets that are now up for grabs. Now, I do believe that most of it will be going to who we talked to, someone I talked about last week as a second-year breakout, which is Tyler Warren. But at the same time, based on where Downs is going in a lot of your drafts this year, I do believe there's a little bit of value there. I think this news is important because we're seeing him play more than just the slot. I know he's a smaller receiver, but at the same time, if he's getting the opportunity, you know, Daniel Jones is coming off his injury, and honestly, he might struggle with the deep ball a little bit, which means more short intermediate, which could mean you know, more ample opportunities for Josh Downs. Any thoughts there, gentlemen? I I mean, I Natter, did you hear?

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Did you hear it? I I think I think Nico is getting on the hype train with this one, man, because I just can't do it with Josh Downs, man. It's just he he you you alluded to it. He's a smaller wide receiver, he always gets banged up. Um, I I like the fact that he is getting this opportunity or could get this opportunity, but how long will it last, man? I really think we're on the ball with the Tyler Warren pick. I think that you know, a lot of people are are maybe not forgetting about him, but they're not talking about him as much because it's Indianapolis and it's kind of boring. But I really think that he could be the one that emerges in this offense, and I think Josh Downs will just be one of those guys who does things here and there, but just not consistent enough.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

Yeah, yeah. It's it's offseason hype news to me. You know what? I do not want Josh Downs on my roster. If he goes off, he goes off. Good for him. It'll be on somebody else's roster, not mine. I'll let somebody else deal with it. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

Um, you know, with that, I you know, if you're looking at what ninth, tenth round, potentially looking at some upside. I will say if someone like a Keenan Allen goes there, value gone. So if they or like a digs, like if they bring anyone in, uh, that value would be gone. Uh Brenton Strange extension, tight end for the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is a big news. Tight is getting paid. Apparently, they just are extending everybody there, and every report out of uh minicamp and OTAs is basically saying that everyone in the Jaguars offense is gonna take off this year. It's starting to feel kind of worrisome, almost like too much hype. But, anyways, uh Brenton Strange's extension, he agreed to a three-year extension worth up to 48 mil with 25 mil guaranteed per his agents. Any thoughts there, gentlemen? You you know, well, go ahead, Matter.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

Who it's like really like that who I don't know, man. All right, not said.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Uh you need you know who Brenton Strange is.

SPEAKER_05 30:03

I love when bad franchises overpay their players because it just handicaps them later on. Now, of course, that's not necessarily fantasy related. I'm not drafting Brenton Strange. Like, why in the world would you ever draft him other than him as like a streamer option dart throw type of thing? Like, really, like you're gonna sit there and feel confident putting somebody named Brenton Strange on your office. He doesn't even have a tight end name.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Like, you gotta go a little strange, something strange for some change, though.

SPEAKER_05 30:29

Yeah, like at least Kyle Pitts has a tight end name. Like, uh I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Well, at least copy. I mean no, and I I like Doctor Strange, man. I like I like him, I like Brenton Strange. I think that um the Jaguars like him too. And you said something, Nico, that was really important. Like, like this offense, they're Liam Cohen said that this is the time right now that they are fine-tuning some of the things that they've done last year. They're not necessarily building or like trying to install new things, they're just fine-tuning those things that they did last year. And I like that. I think that you do the things that you did well, you fine-tune them so you can do them even better. And look at where this offense finished last year. Look at what uh Trevor Lawrence finished last year. I think this offense is on the up and up. So I like Brenton Strength, and I wouldn't mind taking him as a flyer in a in a in a tight end premium league. I think that you can take him as a flyer, and he could be one of those players that does really well for you. Now, again, he he's a tight end, and and Natter does have a point about some of these tight ends. If you don't, you know, get some of the big guys that we just talked about, Trey McBride or Brock Bowers. It's kind of like you punt the sit, you punt the position. I I don't I I say pump your brakes on that. This position is getting a little deeper now. Uh, Britain Strange wouldn't be my number one tight end, but if you're gonna do a yin and yang type tight end situation like my boy Coop on Fantasy Alarm, then Britain Strange would be one of those yin today or one of those yangs on my team.

SPEAKER_05 32:01

There we go. Now, of course, we're gonna continue on with the round three running backs of the this or that. But before we do, make sure to comment on the chat, see how you're liking the show, want any suggestions, want us to talk about any specific player, make sure to drop it, drop it down in the comments down below. But of course, as well, like, subscribe, follow us on socials, of course, at FF Space. You want to make sure to check us out on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and of course, stick around to follow the journey. Now, the round three running backs, Javante Williams, Nico, and of course, I have Kyron Williams. Tip will be the judge. Now, of course, um Nico, I'm gonna let you start it off first.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

Ah, there it is. I feel like we can't start until the gong goes.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

I thought I hit it.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

It's all good. Um, listen, I'm not gonna go on a deep analytical dive here uh like I normally do because these two guys are identical. They thrive on opportunity, and their production last year reflected it. Uh, neither of them is super efficient with their touches, but there's a clear reason as to why you should be taking Javante Williams over Kyron Williams, and it's two words it's Blake Quorum. There is no Blake Korum in Dallas. There is a Malik Davis, there is a Jaden Blue, and a Phil Maffa behind him. Uh, both of these guys' opportunities and productivity on the ground and through the hair were fairly identical. And Javante did it in one fewer game than Kyron did. The argument for Javante is that the gap between them may not be as big as the market may think. He had a monster season last year. He rushed for over 1,200 yards, 13 total TDs, 35 catches, which by the way, it was fairly inefficient 3.9 yards per reception on his 35 catches. And that has to show some positive regression because having it be that low just when you're at check down Charlie, like there's positive regression there coming there for me. And Dallas rewarded him with a three-year, $24 million contract, which tells us that they view him as more than just a one-year fluke. And the biggest case for me is just role stability plus price. Kyron's been a workhorse in the past, but the Rams have been trying to get Blake Coram more and more involved. We saw it all throughout last year. We saw that down the stretch. Javante had a 69% opportunity share compared to Kyron's 64.8. Kyron is truly in that two-headed rushing attack while Javante just has no competition. And I'm not like sitting here and saying that Kyron is dead or not a great pick, but when you're looking at these two potential opportunities in the third round of your draft and you're looking for a running back, I just feel that Javante has that higher upside because he's not splitting that uh target. So, and before anyone chimes in with red zone this, red zone that, Javante had more red zone touches than Kyron did last year. Overall, Kyron deserves respect, but he is being priced like a safer workhorse while Quorum is clearly not going away. Meanwhile, Javante is sitting here, got paid, got his monies, and has a clear path to success and a high potent offense.

SPEAKER_05 35:39

Yeah, I mean, you know, the problem is Javante, I like him a lot. I do like him a lot. I think he is a phenomenal player, but hear me out, it's all wrong. Kyron Williams will always be the guy that you want stashed on your roster, like, especially in the third round. Like, if you take, for example, you know what, let's go Jamar Chase in the first pick, and then the second pick, you go, you know, unfortunately, I don't have my ADP list right in front of me on how draft goes, but you know what, we're just gonna theory craft. You took Chase Drake London. Drake London, no, no, no, you definitely did not do that. You definitely did not do that. Okay, you not you talking about London last week. No, no, no, no, you're not doing that. You that means you got a solid wide receiver one, you got a solid RB one on your rock. So, okay, now you have the ability to go for flexibility, and you want Kyron Williams in that spot, specifically because if you have an RB stack of uh Chase Brown and Kyron Williams, you're looking very scary. And then Chase Brown as a wide receiver, so yeah, Chase Brown. There we go. Am I am I saying uh Jamar Chase? Sorry, I can't say it right. Jamar Chase is your wide receiver one, Chase Brown's your RB one, and then now you have Kyron Williams' RB. That's a scary roster because Kyron Williams is the staple of consistency in the running back position for the NFL. He always is healthy. He the worst he's ever missed is what five games in 2023. He plays when he's hurt, he plays when he's healthy. Obviously, he plays when he's healthy, and of course, he is guaranteed minimum 10 touchdowns. Guaranteed last three seasons, least 10, most 14. You know, you're gonna get solid red zone production on arguably the most efficient offense in NFL. Like, you know, he's gonna have opportunities regardless of how he plays. He could play with a three-yard upper carry average, he's gonna get red zone touches because his team's gonna get in the red zone regardless, regardless of how he plays, he's gonna find a way into the end zone because of how good that team is. You have MVP MVP caliber quarterback, MVP head coach, MVP wide receivers, uh, MVP offensive line. They're making a Super Bowl run. And you saw that with their massive trades going in for Miles Garrett, and to get in the end zone and to win football games, Kyron Williams has to be productive with Javante Williams, like the Cowboys, they're not going anywhere. At some point halfway through the season, you know what they're gonna do? They're gonna start going, all right, hey, we got to see what our rookies got, we got to see how our rookies do. And eventually, you're gonna see Javante Williams touches, they're just gonna go a little bit down every single week, and then you're gonna see the backup go up a little hair tick every single week. Kyron Williams, he is going for the Super Bowl, his team is, and of course, if he's going for the Super Bowl, then you're going for the championship.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

What how what are your thoughts on Blake Coram, though? Because you didn't mention him once. And are you not worried?

SPEAKER_05 38:30

Let me tell you, let me tell you. You know, I am the opposite of CMC, where he needs to be on the field 24-7, just like how B. John Robinson isn't on the field 24-7. Well, we talked, we discussed this last week. He's on the field, what was it like 67%? 6-7, 67% of the synapse that was something like that. Like, it is perfectly okay for him to not be on the field 100% of the time. If anything, it's better. Like it's a marathon, not a sprint. You want him in your active lineup, not on the injured reserve when it comes to championship season. Because when you're drafting somebody like Kyron Williams, you're expected to be in the fantasy playoffs at this point. And you know what? If he's playing, he's producing fantasy points, and that's what's something you want to see.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

This was a good one, guys. And I and I think a lot of people see, we talk about Kyron Williams. We talked about him on our show several times, especially when we were doing spaces back on X. Um, I know his name popped up. We haven't talked a lot about Javante Williams, and we really haven't talked about what he did last year and what he could do in year two um in Dallas. Uh, but I'm still gonna lean Kyron, man. I I think Kyron is that guy that he's just steady Eddie. He's just does it all, he's always gonna be productive, especially in the red zone. Uh Nico, you asked, are we concerned about uh uh Blake Quorum? And and I'm not necessarily concerned about him. I mean, yes, he's there, yes, he's gonna take away some touches for a spell, uh, but I'm not that concerned with him. We weren't we didn't need to be concerned with him last year. You know, we definitely, I think this year, going into this year uh with Sean McVay again, Sean McVay plays the players that he trusts. And I'm not saying he doesn't trust Blake Horum, but I think that he has to gain some more of that trust to get on the same level where Kyron Williams has. So I think Kyron Williams, slight tick, man, but I think it's very, very close, especially if we get that Javante Williams. And if Jaden Blue doesn't take that next step, if we get that Javante Williams from last year, I think he can have an even better season this year because I think that the defense is going to be better and they run a little bit more too, which Brian Schott Brian Schottenheimer wants to do.

SPEAKER_04 40:47

I was so shocked looking at these two players side by side, they are the same person from a standpoint of opportunity, product, productivity, and efficiency. Like they're not the most efficient runners, they thrive on the opportunity given to them. And for me, the deal breaker, if you will, when you were looking at that, is who do I believe is going to have more opportunity in 2026? Which, when you look at competition in the running back room, which is why I lean Javante. But Matter made some good points. Congratulations, sir.

SPEAKER_05 41:21

I tip my cap to you. Thank you. Thank you. You know, it was hard to argue against Javante Williams because I do like the guy, but again, I even me personally not defending um uh me just happened to happen to defend Kyron Williams, like me personally, I do really like Kyron Williams as well.

SPEAKER_04 41:39

I'm just glad you said or didn't say, Oh, they're in a better offense, like the Dallas Cowboys offense is nothing because we all know you love your players on good teams, yeah, hence the Kyron, hence the Devontae. But anywho, congratulations, sir.

SPEAKER_05 41:54

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

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SPEAKER_05 42:10

Hmm, let me see if I could figure this out. Let's add this stage.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

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SPEAKER_05 43:06

Damn, that's a really good commercial, right there. Honestly, you know, I have met, sorry, uh man, I feel so bad. I don't remember his name anymore. I am Bob Lung. Bob Lung, yeah. I've met him like once, not like physically, but like over the the internet and met him, and super nice guy, really nice guy. So, of course, he did a show with us.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yeah, he did a show with us like two years ago, I think.

SPEAKER_05 43:27

Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah. Cool guy.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

Yeah, real cool dude. Now, of course, so go ahead, Dad.

SPEAKER_05 43:33

Continue it. All right, we got Devontae Smith and Garrett Wilson. So, of course, Devontae Smith is gonna have Nico defending him. Garrett Wilson, good luck, tip, because I don't think there is defending him. But Nico, you're on the board first. Let me hit that gong.

SPEAKER_04 43:54

Let a rip. This guy, I am planting my flag on. In 2026, and that is Devonta Smith. Listen, Garrett Wilson, I'm gonna come out and say it right now, he is the better, perhaps, volume bet and targets, but Devontae Smith will be better from an efficiency and overall production standpoint. Like Wilson's case is fair. He is the clear, you know, number one alpha in New York. You know, he has 315 catches and over 3,000 yards and 18 TDs in his career there. But guess who is now also the alpha with his team? And that's Devonta Smith. And the problem is, like, we keep thinking of Garrett Wilson, like the situation in New York is finally fixed. I'm gonna sit here right now and I'm gonna tell you it's not. At some point, you have to ask whether you want the better target projection player or the player attached to an offense that you actually trust. Devontae Smith had 77 catches and over a thousand yards in 2025, and that was with only four TDs. If the touchdowns normalize even just a little bit, and he gets anywhere north of you know six to eight touchdowns, Devontae Smith is gonna be an absolute smash at his spot. And I believe they will normalize with the departure of AJ Brown and his 29.5% target share just completely gone. The Eagles offense is simply, to me, more predictable than what the Jeff's offense is gonna be. Smith is attached to Jalen Hurts, a stronger and healthier offensive line, and a team that should thrive in scoring positions. And again, Wilson may see more targets, but Smith's targets will be significantly more valuable. Smith is better in yards per route run, separation, yards per reception. Devontae doesn't need 12 targets to matter like Wilson does. He can win deep, he can win in the intermediate area, and he can turn six to eight targets into a monster game. At the end of the day, like, look, Wilson's fine, he's a safe floor, but I mentioned it earlier uh when I was talking about Hampton. I prefer drafting upside, and Devontae Smith is that upside. Wilson gives you the target ceiling, but Smith gives you the better offense, efficiency, and a cleaner path to a true wide receiver jump compared to what you're getting with Wilson, Slim Reaper to the moon.

SPEAKER_05 46:26

To the moon tip. I don't know how you're gonna top that, but good luck.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and I will top that because uh Nico said it. Nico talked about how the consistency he talked about the uh knowing what you know and what you know with Garrett Wilson is 2024, 251 points, 2023, 213 points, 2022, 215 points. The only reason he didn't get 200 points last year in fantasy football in a standard PPR league. I don't even know if that's a thing, a standard PPR in a PPR league, is because he got hurt. So he would have done the same thing again with these terrible quarterbacks that he's played with. Aaron Rodgers was the best player and quarterback that he played with, and that was a uh a broke down Aaron Rodgers. So now you get Geno Smith. Yes, guys, please don't sit there and laugh because I'm gonna talk about Geno Smith for just a moment. When Geno Smith has protection, he's a he's a he's he's a capable quarterback. He's capable of getting a star receiver like Garrett Wilson the ball. And guess what? They have a better offensive line on paper than the the Raiders did last year with um with uh Geno Smith. So Geno Smith has it he has an upgrade in offensive line, he has an upgrade with the wide receivers at Garrett Wilson. Like this is this is all screaming out for me. Another one of those years where you get over 200 plus points from him. He comes, he's a borderline wide receiver one, high-end, high-end wide receiver two. The other thing I'm gonna tell you this as well with the Eagles, the whole AJ Brown situation, I understand that vacates a lot of targets. You know how I feel where I think some of those targets are gonna go, and it's not the Dentavion Wicks. I think a lot of those targets are gonna go to Saquon Barkley because that's just gonna be a safety zone for Jalen Hurts. They don't they don't throw the ball a ton. They haven't in the last couple years. Yes, that was with Kevin Patulo. And uh, but I think Sirianni still wants to emphasize the run. Sean Mannion is there now. Sean Mannion is gonna emphasize the run. He's gonna use Saquon Barkley. I think that the Slim Reaper gets used in the offense, but I think that he also gets abused for fantasy purposes because he's gonna be, or he may abuse his managers because you're gonna be falling under that inconsistency umbrella yet again. They got Mikha Lemon, they've got Dontavian Wicks, they've got Hollywood Brown, they've got a lot of different receivers who do kind of the same thing, but some of them do different things. Oh, yeah, and don't let me talk about Dallas Goddard, who got 11 touchdowns last year. Like the Slim Reaper, he'll get in between the 20s, but when they get down there deep, when they get the need to get the dirty work done, there's just so many other mouths that are so many other players that can give them that positive outcome and so much more opportunity that I think that Slim Reaper just comes out just a little bit. Um, so I'm drafting Garrett Wilson because the only thing I think that's stopping him is health.

SPEAKER_05 49:30

Nah, you know, the problem is is you were up with a tall task tip, and unfortunately, you had a judge who um might I don't hate Garrett Wilson more than I hate like Kyle Pitts and stuff like that. But like I can't, I I will never ever ever in my right mind recommend somebody ever draft Garrett Wilson. I mean, when you look at his like stat totals of last year, he had one with actually he had a London game with zero uh zero catches, zero yards, uh 13, 71, 50.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

It's just a well don't look at it week by week.

SPEAKER_05 50:06

You have to because like that's that's what you get, right? Like that's what you week to week. He drafted him in the third round. You lost your week. You lost. He lost you the week by getting those donuts. Like, like there's no point ever where Devontae Swift the Devontae Smith lost you the week because he wasn't drafted in the third round. Now he of course he elevated a little bit because uh of course the situation now. So we're expecting him to have a lot more consistency, but at the same time, it's also a level of anxiety reducing or inducing, depending on how you think about it. Because I have drafted Garrett Wilson one year when uh, of course, Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback. And I, you know what? I went with the stack actually. I went for Aaron Rodgers, Garrett Wilson, and I paired them together with a stack thinking it was going to be beautiful. Um, I think I finished in last place in that in that league, specifically because I got destroyed by that stack because it was an expensive stack of Garrett Wilson. And um, there's there's so many weeks where you sit there and you go, God, it's so anxiety-inducing. Should I bench him? Should I start him? I don't know what to do with him anymore. And more often than not, I made the wrong decision. And of course, um, it ended up where I am today. So I would unfortunately never recommend somebody drafting Garrett Wilson. I'm gonna have to give Nico the shout-out on this one and the dub. But of course, uh, the follow-up argument is definitely available to the floor. Tip, how do you feel?

SPEAKER_00 51:28

I but my thing is this, man. Um, in fantasy football, you want you want two things. You want opportunity and you want consistency. And I think Garrett Wilson will give you both of those. Um, yes, could he give you a zero week? Okay, of course. It's a wide receiver. He's on an offense who, you know, is I think it's gonna be better than what people think, but I don't think it's gonna be a great offense by any means. Um, I think that you are looking for also a little upside, and Garrett Wilson can provide that. He can have those blow up weeks where, yeah, you know, um Devonta Smith can as well, but I think that again, man, he's not gonna be the focal point in this offense. He might be the focal point as well as a wide receiver, but he's not gonna be the focal point in this offense. I think that you that's Saquon Barkley, and I think it it could be Dallas Goddard. I think they found something last year, uh, him and and um and Jalen Hurts. And now with AJ Brown gone, I get it, but it's just there's a lot of questions that need to be answered with this wide receiver group, and I want to see it in action before I'm like a hundred percent on uh Devonta Smith.

SPEAKER_04 52:40

Brees Hall, Omar Cooper, uh, and Nine Mitchell and Kenya. And let's not forget about Mason Taylor. He got he got a lot of targets. I listen, we talked about it before. Geno Smith, he's not a mobile quarterback, he's going to be more of a check down Charlie, and they brought in weapons, and I believe that target share isn't gonna be sitting at where it was last year in the 30s, which was obviously elite. But at the same time, my guy, he's not gonna need 12 targets every single week just to be productive.

SPEAKER_00 53:19

Well, speaking about some production, I I heard you doing trades over here, uh Nico. What's going on with this?

SPEAKER_04 53:27

Yeah, I made a dynasty trade yesterday, gentlemen. Yeah, talk about this dynasty trade. Yeah, um, let's have uh let's have the chat drop comments below about what they think of this trade and who won. Um, so it's the fourth year. I drafted a win now team for the most part, so I'm definitely contending. I got first place a couple years ago, and I got third place in year one and year three, and I still have that window, but I have guys like Derek Henry, Jonathan Taylor, and my third running back is like Rico Dowdle and like you know, Tajay Spears, and it's it's not deep. I'm very deep at wide receivers, but I'm not deep at running back. And I made a trade. I traded the King, I traded Derrick Henry, um, and a 2027 third round pick, and I got in return David Montgomery and the fourth overall pick in this year's draft. Obviously, looking to turn that fourth overall pick into uh price. And if for some reason Tate or Tyson slip, you know, I'm definitely gonna I'm leaning towards going for the best available, but um what do you guys think? I mean, Derek Henry he's he keeps defying the odds, but he is still like when is it gonna happen?

SPEAKER_00 54:40

It is one of these days it's gonna happen. And I don't know if you like, you know, we had we we were doing a space last year, uh, and Greg Kellogg came on there and he was talking with uh talking about how he thinks Derrick Henry had is is done, was washed. And for a couple of weeks after that, he was, and then he had that four touchdown game in December. And you know, there's the joke around you know Derrick Henry coming back and it coming, um, being the Yeti, uh, especially the fantasy footballers. They always talk about them, you know, when the colder months come around, it's it's it's Derrick Henry time. Um, I don't know, man. I I think it's a good trade for you because you're getting rid of a player in Derrick Henry. I think I think you probably could have got a notch up just because of the namesake, but David Montgomery is not a bad name to have. Um, I think that he is going to be the um the the number one guy in uh for the for the Texans offense. I don't think he's gonna be a bell cow, um, but I think he will be the number one you know option when it comes out there in the backfield for them. Um, so I like that. You got you gotta you gotta player now. See, nothing irks me more, fellas, when these players get they they they they trade away a player just to get a pick. It's like it's like, why are you doing that? Like, you don't even know who the hell that pick's gonna be. Like, you know, what if that pick is trash? What if that pick doesn't amount to anything? So you gotta go out there and get somebody, get get another player for if you you know, if if there's gonna be draft picks involved, you gotta get another player. And I like what you did there, and then you got the fourth overall pick. Natter, what what do you think of that?

SPEAKER_05 56:19

Um, now did you pick? Well, obviously, did you take the first round pick knowing that you're going to be able to get price, or is it just a speculation?

SPEAKER_04 56:28

I took the pick knowing that I would probably get price, but if for some reason Carnell Tate or Jordan Tyson fall to me, obviously Jeremiah Love's not falling to me. Um, who are you receiving? I would feel good about that. Nico Collins, Jamar Chase, Zay Flowers, Alec Pierce. It's a double fight. You ain't worried about those other people. But my mindset in most situations is usually go with the best available player over the positional need. And maybe it's because I got burned by it last year. Um, I drafted uh Caleb Johnson over a Meka uh Buca in this exact same team, and maybe it haunts me a little bit, but I truly do believe you need to just focus on drafting the best available player and let the cards fall where they may outside of that. But knowing this, that I was getting essentially Monty and presumably price for Derrick Henry in a 2027 third, like I yeah, I think he did really well, man.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

I think he did really well. I mean, you could have maybe you could have the only thing I could have said is maybe go up a notch on or maybe get two running backs just off the stake of his name, dude. Like but you're getting that for you're getting that first round pick, and I like Jadarian Price. I think he I think he can do something uh in Seattle there. But but what I will say is this um I the the only thing I I will uh this is what I wanted to say. Post that on X, post that trade on X um uh under our under our account tonight. I want to see what we get some track. A lot of people like these trade questions, and uh so float that out there this this evening and and let's see what we get from that. I think we're gonna get some some some some uh some good content on that one, man. That'll be good.

SPEAKER_05 58:17

Yeah, uh I do uh you know I would be interested to see hypothetically if price is gone and you draft a wide receiver, like you can't start five wide receivers at some point, right? Right. So that'd be yeah, correct.

SPEAKER_04 58:30

Then I would be rolling out JT and Monty. Yeah, yeah, that'd be which but then again, my third running back would you know be Rico Doddle, Kenneth Gainwell, Tajay Scooter.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Oh, yeah, see okay, okay. See, I like I like Kenneth Gainwell. I didn't hear that too before.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

I had to pull up the team.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

No, now now you're now you're cooking, bro. Now you're you're cooking with gravy, bro. You're good.

SPEAKER_04 58:50

But I needed some I needed some youth on this team. Yeah, you needed a little bit of youth.

SPEAKER_00 58:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Roy, real quick, guys, before we before we close up shop for tonight, let's let's just real quick give a couple of sleepers. We can talk about them another time, but let's just real quick give sleepers and some breakout players. Um, Natter, we're gonna start with you. So give us one sleeper and one breakout player, and you go ahead, go.

SPEAKER_05 59:16

Uh average running back 38 spot, Rasheed White is gotta be a huge sleeper that people need to start taking more seriously. Like he is on the commanders with the backfield competing with JCM, aka Bill, and then some rookie named Katron Allen. Like he doesn't even have a running back name, and you're telling me Rashad White can't beat them out. Like, like you're telling me somebody, JCM, Bill, got outsnapped by Chris Rodriguez every single time they play together. Like you're sitting here and you're gonna tell me that Rashad White isn't better than them. Like, you're kidding, you're crazy unless Rashad White just falls off a cliff talent-wise, like there's just no way that he sits there as running back 38 and finishes the season running back 38, or not, or worse, I should say. Like, he is, in my opinion, guaranteed a plus 20 RB finish. Like, and that's to me like the floor, it should be like the 15 mark.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

All right, look, we're time's ticking, so give us the breakout guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:22

All right, breakout guy is going to be my boy, Matthew Golden. And unfortunately, I could sit here and give you all the statistics and reasons of why I think so. But realistically, there isn't really that much of a statistic for me to go off of, other than he's just gotta do it. Like, you just gotta break. Like, it can't be much worse than this. That's like my thing right now for you. Like, you just can't do that much worse. So, when you're the first wide receiver that the Packers drafted in the first round in the last 20 years, and you're gonna tell me that he's a bust, he can't be a bust, they gotta force feed him, they gotta make sure they prove the franchise right, and somebody is gonna look good, and Matthew Golden has got to be that guy, or else they're just never gonna draft somebody early anymore on the offensive side.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:09

Yeah, key, yeah. No, um, the pick is in podcast, is right. Keep an eye on Caitron Allen and and you know, Rashad White, though, is a great sleeper. Nico, give us your sleeper and your breakout player.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:20

Yeah, it's uh Jonathan Brooks. Uh, he's sitting around 10th, 11th round at that point in your draft. Prioritize upside. He's still 22.9 years young. Um, Chuba Hubbard is probably one of the least efficient running backs in the NFL. He thrives on opportunity even more than the guys we talked about earlier in the show. Um, and then my breakout is um uh by Shell Tootin. Um 260 carries are now for grabs with ETN gone. You know, Chris Rodriguez is dealing with an injury right now, and you know, Tootin's opportunity is coming. He had a 6.3 yard per carry, over 1100 yards, 17 TDs in his last year in college, dominated the NFL combine, which is how he moved up in drafts. Um, he's gonna have the opportunity. It's an elite offense, and I think he's gonna take full advantage of it. Tootin is breaking out this season.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:15

Uh, yeah, I you know, everybody's talking about Bayeshaw Tootin. That that has been a hot name most all offseason, and I think it'll continue to be a hot name. I think Natter, you drafted him in the fourth round, or in the was it the third or fourth round?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:29

Fourth round?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Fourth round, and and you guys gave me so much slack, so much yeah, and and and I'll and I'll do it to whoever does it, whoever is out there and drafts Bayeshall Tootin in the fourth round. I will give you a bunch of flack. Don't get don't don't get it twisted.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:43

I'll be right, buddy. I just love I got him in like the 10th round in my startup dynasty draft that happened pre-ETN. So I'm just I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

It was yeah, no, that that now 10th round, we're talking. I there's no way you can get him in the 10th round now, but yeah, no, it I I think it's definitely closer to that fourth round uh that Natter had done earlier in the offseason. Um, but definitely uh a steal nonetheless. I think he can break out. I think this whole offense is gonna break out. Uh it it already did. I think you could just build up on that. Uh, for me, for me, I'm gonna just be quick, guys. My sleeper is Tyrone Tracy, my breakout player is Chickazam and Conquo. Uh sleeper, Tyrone Tracy. If you want to read some more on him, I did an article on Fantasy Life. Uh, you could check it out there. If and the same thing with Chickizama Konquo, you could check them out there. Uh, other than that, let's close up shop. What do we have, Nico or Natter?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:40

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