SATANIC MUSIC Connected to School Shooting? Jesse Romero Drops TRUTH BOMB

A powerful and timely interview on Istoryang Katoliko with Brother Jesse Romero — Catholic lay evangelist, spiritual warfare expert, former Los Angeles County Deputy Sheriff, and 3-time World Police Olympics Boxing Champion.

In this hard-hitting conversation, Brother Jesse exposes how Satan uses music to corrupt minds, open doors to demons, and destroy souls. He breaks down the origins of rock & roll, the occult influence in modern artists like Taylor Swift, the dangers of profane and satanic music, and why disordered music leads to disordered lives.

He also shares practical Catholic weapons to protect yourself, the power of sacred music like Gregorian Chant, and how to guard your ears and your soul in today’s culture.

This is not just an ordinary interview — it is a bold spiritual warfare wake-up call every Catholic needs to hear right now.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

people that openly promote satanism through their music. Some people will say, nah, I think you guys are making that's exciting.

SPEAKER_07 0:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

Yeah, you guys are making this stuff up making this stuff up. I mean, come on. There's nothing to this music. I'm going to prove it to you. The satanic high priest that started the Church of Satan named Anton LeVay back in 1966. And his son-in-law, his son-in-law called Nicholas Shrek, they're on YouTube. So you could only I'll send you the link after the show so you can actually see it yourself. It's only about two minutes. But they're on YouTube in an interview and they're say they said that through music they said that they're going to plot to subvert using music and pop culture. Most especially they want to manipulate the human mind through bad music and propaganda in politics. This is Anton Levey. He's on YouTube and his son-in-law Nicholas Shrek. That they are going to use music and pop culture to manipulate the human mind and to promote propaganda in politics. Satan is called the Prince of the power of the air that's interesting. Okay? Because what does that mean? The prince of the air that means that Satan controls that field the the the the the the spiritual realm of the cosmos the atmosphere that's his that's it that's what he controls. Because the Bible says Satan is the prince of the air he's in control of our airways he's the prince of technology that's why we before we start the show you prayed a prayer over our computer equipment because demons also have access to technology they use computers they use our iPhones. I know exorcists that after they do a solemn session and they're going back to the rectory guess who calls them up on their iPhone? Demons call them up and curse them and and and threaten them say you hurt me tonight Father so and so I'm going to get you you hurt me real bad tonight. You drove out some of my friends I'm going to get you you talk to any exorcist demons call them on their cell phone and threaten them especially after a session and so because the devil's the prince of technology he's established the foundations of his empire here on planet earth through airwaves that's why we pray that prayer the the the the communication you know to to to bind in evil spirits from our devices before we start a show. But it was at the Council of Nicaea or the council of fathers in 325 AD they they they settled this heresy and they crushed it and they clarified that Jesus Christ is co equal homoosus with the Father that he's the divine son of God. But you know how Arius was so uh effective in spreading this heresy most people don't know this other Arius was a musician and a singer so what he would do is he would take to the streets and at mass and he would sing he would sing uh heretical lyrics he would teach heresy through his music that Jesus was not equal to the father. And so the common people would listen to his hereticals and you know when you listen to a song you can remember one or two sentences one or two lyrics yes the common people that were simple they would go around singing that lyric from Father Arius of Alexandria the lyric that he was not God that Jesus Christ was created by the Father. So people go around singing it this is how his heresy spread far and wide his he spread it through song and music because he knew the power of song and spirit of prayer so in the name of the Father Son the Holy Spirit amen.

SPEAKER_10 4:06

Amen protection protection of technology prayer Lord Jesus Christ sovereign King and throne in heaven in your love and mercy I ask that you establish a perimeter of protection with your precious blood around our communication devices and all technology we use and own our phones and cell phones computers tablets and other devices the cameras or webcams microphones speakers displays any and all software Wi-Fi connection in the air both my router and the router of the people we are communicating with the optic cables involved in the transmission of data and the light waves being used to transfer data. Cleanse them with your precious blood and drive from them any satanic influence I ask that you establish around them a sanctuary of your mercy where Satan and any other evil spirit or human agency cannot interfere. I ask Father that you will block, find, rebuke and render impotent any assault of the evil one from them in any way. Father so long as these instruments are utilized we ask you allow them to enjoy the protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Saint Carlo Acutis, Saint Michael the Archangel and all the holy angels we ask this in your name we ask this in your most holy name the name before which every nation shall bow down in heaven on and on earth and under the earth that Jesus Christ is Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father Son the Holy Spirit amen welcome brother Jesse Romero what an honor to have you again brother thank you brother for inviting me you're doing good work and I'm so proud of you. You're my inspiration you're a former Los Angeles County deputy sheriff and boxing champion turned Catholic evangelist author and spiritual warrior thank you for this opportunity brother.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Yeah Adrian you inspire me as well by the way I just want to let your audience know that uh I also started my own YouTube shows called the Jesse Romero show so uh nice started about three weeks ago and and and it was people like people like you that inspired me so yeah if you like if you like this interview you could also take a look at my daily shows called the Jesse Romero show on YouTube.

SPEAKER_10 6:18

Thanks Adrian for this opportunity for sure we will follow it and we will stay tuned in every episode. Thank you brother yeah and before we start uh you mentioned that there are things that you love about Filipinos.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Okay let me tell you three things I love about Filipinos. Fuck up a few things number one for sure is my wife's a retired nurse and all her best friends were Filipino nurses.

SPEAKER_10 6:42

All her best friends yes I'm a registered nurse.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Ah and she would always come home and bring the best Filipino food from her friends in the hospital that they would make and yeah yeah they would always make extra food and give it to my wife Anita and my wife's best friend today here in Phoenix Arizona is the Filipino holy woman holy holy woman Filipino also as you well know I debated a very anti-Catholic Filipino named uh Jose Ventilacion several years ago it's on you it's it's on the internet so if anybody wants to see it just type in Jesse Romero versus Jose Ventilacion uh on the one true church. Yeah so I have memories of Jose Ventilacion very very anti-Catholic but if you watch the debate you can see that uh the evidence that I produced uh completely completely defeated his uh silly arguments and also another Filipino that that uh I had a relationship with when I lived in California was Manny Pacquiao yeah I I visited Manny at his at his uh townhouse a few times over in Beverly Hills and I was in the process Adrian I was in the process of talking to Manny about the Catholic he was very open. So uh some a fellow Catholic actor he's a former Catholic actually he's a former very devout Catholic very devout so what happened is Eduardo Verastegui the the f the famous Mexican actor is friends with Manny Pacquiao and he told him one day he goes Manny I know you got questions about the Catholic faith because he had just left with his wife to an evangelical Protestant church and he goes yeah I got a lot of questions he goes I can bring somebody over that can answer all your questions so Eduardo set it up I had dinner with Manny on two occasions at his house spent hours with him with an open Bible and I was uh just he would ask questions and I say okay here's what the Bible says and he goes ah he was very open and he was very intrigued but then uh I'll be honest I don't want to get I don't want to get into anybody's marriage but then uh he was told by his spouse to cut all communications with me because I was going to I was going to confuse him so his spouse prohibited him from any further communication with me again because I was giving him biblical historical evidence for the truth of the Catholic faith and he would he would have been a Catholic had I had he allowed me to to spend about two or three more because he was asking good questions okay Jesse we're where's the papacy show me from the Bible and and explain that to me he had good questions he wasn't antagonistic he wasn't pushing back he really wanted to know so uh so that's again oh here's the uh another thing I love about Filipinos you guys and the Philippines you guys have more exorcists mandated exorcists than any other country on planet earth so I'm proud of you guys I am proud of you guys I I there's other countries like Germany guess how many exorcists Germany has Adrian how many how many zero zero none they're modern they don't believe they don't believe in demons so the bishops oh no no that's medieval stuff you guys the Philippines you guys are the example about what what the the the times that we live in right now and you guys take spiritual warfare serious the Germans they got the spirit of Martin Luther they got the spirit of Nietzsche and they got the spirit of modernism we gotta pray for them because they've uh they've really lost their faith all right brother that's all I want to say about my love for the Philippines wow that's amazing it's good to know that uh but have you met uh any uh exorcist Filipino uh yeah have you met lately not lately i i've met at conferences i've meet i've met several of them at the last couple of years at different conferences and uh they're again i'm just very impressed with their piety their holiness and their commitment to their ministry yeah they're an example they're an example to all the catholic priests in the world wow yeah yeah that's nice i am curious i wonder uh when was the meeting that you mentioned with many paquiao it was about the last time i before i left before i moved to arizona from california which is about 10 years ago so i probably met him about six months before i moved yeah about 10 and a half years ago oh he knows who i am i'd love to reconnect with him um in fact i i one day i went to california and i was at a restaurant and he saw me and he goes jesse romero so he re he remembered me i got up you know gave him a big hug and and uh yeah he he remembered me but again he's been prohibited by his spouse from speaking to me because uh she doesn't want me uh uh confusing him with the truth so i hope that i mean i'd love to yeah i'd love to reconnect with him he's a he's a he's a good man he's a good man he's he's the he he loves jesus and and he really wants to do the right thing he just needs he just doesn't have the the the right information the uh the fact of the matter is like i told him i said manny it was a catholic church that put the bible together in 382 ad at the council of rome we're the ones that we're the ones that decided what books would be in the bible it is and here's one just for manny and for anybody out there i'll make it simple yeah adrian sure if you want to just if you don't believe me that jesus christ started the catholic church just get your phone okay talk to siri and ask siri who started the catholic church and it's gonna tell you you can say siri who started the mormons it'll tell you siri who started the Jehovah it'll tell you if you tell ask Siri it's gonna say Jesus Christ started the Catholic oh it's a woman's voice usually jesus christ started the catholic church in 33 ad in jerusalem you can go on chat gpt type in who started again you can go to grok you can go to the internet wikipedia ai every single source is gonna tell you what I told Manny Manny Jesus Christ started the Catholic Church that's your home come back we want you back but again his spouse kind of blocked that and I'm not I'm not bad mouth you know God bless her you know that's his wife and I have respect for her but but she she is a little bit she is a little bit short sighted there she needs to be catechized sometimes women are led by emotion and not by reason and it's probably because at that evangelical church you know I've heard I've heard her talk before she says oh they make me feel good and they're very friendly and they there's beautiful fellowship and they give me food all of that you can find that in the Catholic church as well and more because in the Catholic church you could find the real food that gets you to heaven the Holy Eucharist the bread of life which you can't find in any Protestant church.

SPEAKER_10 13:18

And our brother Jesse I'm curious with your debate with an apologies from the from the Iglesia Nicristo about which is one true church according to the Bible looking back what was the most powerful moment or key truths that stood out to you during that debate well one of the things I that I did and and and you can see he was getting frustrated because I had evidence for example as I as I told the audience that Jesus Christ started the Catholic Church and I and and and what I did there was a big screen behind me.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

I put up on the screen behind me so the whole there's about 3000 people there uh and there's about the the audience the the hall held 3000 people every seat was taken Adrian there were people sitting on the aisles people sitting in the back in the hallways in the vestibules uh in the front of the stage there's about a thousand people that were shut out for the theater that couldn't make it in that were outside they there was no room for them the fire department didn't let them in it was the most uh crowded Protestant Catholic debate in California ever and here's what I kept here's what I kept doing to Jose Ventilacion again because being an ex a retired cop I I in police reports you want to write facts what I did I said I'm gonna prove to you that Jesus Christ started the Catholic church then I put a list of all the churches on the screen right behind me and I put every single church like the main ones who started it what year and then I put my source up there like I said Britannica encyclopedia you know illustrated world encyclopedia and so I'm saying look it up there jesus christ started the Catholic church I show the audience and I said look at look at the evidence that I have look at my footnotes then I said Iglesiani Cristo was started in the manila philippines by uh by uh filix manolo back in the yeah back in the back in the uh you know night 20th early 20th century I said they haven't even been around I said how do I know this I went to their website and here's their link it's right over my head read from their own website Felix Manolo started iglesia nicristo in Manila Philippines in 19 so and so I said that's not the church of Jesus so I think the the bet and he was getting very frustrated because he'd say something that I was prepared I would put my notes on the screen so people can read and people were like wow jesse came with the receipts and and uh I think one of one of the most powerful moments of the debate Jose Ventilación was so frustrated with all the facts that I was giving and I'm putting the facts on the screen right over my head and I'm pointing read what's up there I have my notes up there read it and I'm and I'm reading it and the people are just wow and I remember Felix Manolo he i i mean uh jose antilación he was so angry with me he he uh you know he he said uh yeah he said he said he basically said something insulting to me and the catholic church so it was my turn to get on the microphone and then I looked at all 3000 people out there 1500 people one half was Iglesia Nicristo the other half of the hall of the of the it was a theater the other half was Catholics and so I looked at all the uh uh Filipinos from Iglesia Nicristo and I looked at them after he insulted me and insulted the Catholic church I said I looked at them I lowered my voice I said my brothers I looked at Iglesia Nicristo remember 1500 of them I said what Josevantilacion just said to me right now I would never respond in kind I said I would never call you a church of Satan I said all of you out there you're my brothers in Christ I love all of you that's why I'm here I'm here to share the truth with you that Jesus Christ wants you to come back I will I'll never insult you or call you what he just called me right now. Adrian when I did that the whole room fell silent for about a minute and you could hear people say and Felix excuse me he got embarrassed he covered his face because he was expecting you know he called me a name and he expected me to call for me to come back and call him a name we go back and forth I said I said I'm not gonna do that I said I would never insult him like he insulted me because I have respect for all of you out there.

SPEAKER_04 17:41

You're my brothers in Christ brothers and sisters in Christ first I want to say that I would never ever call any other Christian Protestant that their church is divine.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

I would never return that to you said it was a Britannic encyclopedia encyclopedia says the Church of Christ was founded by Felix Monolo in 1914 in the Philippines and then it talks about the church of government and political power etc Wikipedia.com the free online encyclopedia says a blessing to know for the church of Christ started by Felix Manolo officially registered the church the Philippine government on July 27 1914 20 years ago we didn't have the internet you couldn't find this out my question is this if you can only be saved through the church of Christ first question can you only be saved through the church of Christ yes only messy can one only be saved alright this is yes and number that's a public yes one yes and so you say you can have a lot of people being saying ninety forty somebody's denomination politicism loss unfortunately uh we accomplish the composition denomination can a person be saying believers and some the child comes of course even on the side of boxes on the symbol is the church is the summary of solution you need to be the church of class in order to be saved the question that we are discussing here today to resolve is which one is the church of God this church or the church of life which appeared in the Philippines and nothing for me here my personal thinking what's the my second person is among this church that appeared in the Philippines and 1914 why was it called the church of God okay I had a final question.

SPEAKER_04 20:43

Alright one question Felix Manolo was a Catholic Christian everybody but the Church of Christ virtually left the Catholic Church we're gonna feel the scripture here the book of Hebrews chapter 13 verse 17 this passage talks about obeying church leadership it says quote obey your leaders and submit to them for they're keeping watch over your souls as men will have to give an account how can Felix Manolo who was part of the Catholic church prior to starting Iglesiasco this verse applied to him as a Catholic Christian Hebrews 1317 told Felix Manolo obey your leaders who were those leaders the Catholic bishops and priests and submit to them for their keeping watch over your souls as many will have to give an account to God why didn't Felix Manolo believe and obey the New Testament to obey the church government that he came from that's the answer.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Remember something reports manolo Left the Catholic Church, he did not immediately start preaching about the English episode. In fact, if you are aware of the history of this church, he went to the different Protestant denominations. Alright? Okay, he didn't immediately uh leave the Catholic Church. Now, why did he leave the Catholic Church and the other Protestant denominations? Because later on, later on, he realized that he is, he is the fulfillment of the prophecy of Jesus Christ in the book of John 10, chapter 10, verse 16. The Christ said, In the future, there will be one flock and one shepherd. The one flock in John 10 16, the flock is the church of God. Christ said, In the future, we believe that we are that one flock in the future, and Matter Father's Manala is that one shepherd.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

He is not nobody agrees with that interpretation, by the way, other than the lesson against. John 1016, when he just quoted, this is a reference to the Gentiles. The Gentiles are the other thing. Nobody agrees with that interpretation, Mr. McGillas. Having said that, if we look at 10 Protestant Christians, and by the way, a Protestant according to Buddha's dictionary is a church that was founded absolutely. That's including the Leslie people who found in 1914. How do we settle the difference if there is no one church to answer the doctrinal differences? How do ten Protestants look at one Bible versus and they come to complete different interpretations, including yourself? How do we settle the controversy over doctrine? What did Christ leave us with?

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Alright, here's the answer Apostle Pulse, man, Apostle Postman, how can they preach unless they are one? They are seven. Therefore, by means of the preaching of the one that was sent by God or a listener, people can receive the truth. Alright? When Brother Felix Manano started to preach about the Lessonic Christmas and the truth of the Bible, and the truth of the Bible, we believe that teaching because what he did was simply to teach us what is in the Bible. When you are trying to include us among the Protestant groups, I am sorry, Mr. Romero. My message, the many people, was against a Protestant group.

SPEAKER_04 25:24

Another question. The Catholic Church goes all the way back in an unbroken line of succession. This is your history. Felix the Monomo. And I'm the Manolo and Lionel Manolo. My question is this, alright? Prior to Felix Monomo, how will somebody say, how did somebody get to heaven? How does somebody know the truth about Jesus Christ? How do people know how the truth document prior to 1914? How can I do that question?

SPEAKER_03 26:35

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SPEAKER_01 27:46

That was probably one of the most powerful moments of the debate. But uh yeah, I recommend people to people watch it. Open up your Bible, look at my arguments, look at his shallow arguments, take notes, and pass that around to any Philippine that's struggling with Iglesian e Cristo.

SPEAKER_10 27:59

Oh, oh, I I wonder how does how does it happen? I mean, uh, why did you how did you know about the the the church of Iglesia Nicristo?

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Here's what happened is that uh Jose Ventilacion, his secretary, called up the diocese of Los Angeles and called a priest, I think the vicar of clergy, and he said, and he said, Can you uh uh he goes, my name is Jose Ventilacion. I'm a I'm a an apologist for uh the church of Iglesias and Cristo here in the Philippines. I'm a professor, I'm an instructor, and I'll debate any Catholic priest anytime, anywhere, and prove that you guys are a false church, that you guys are a cult. Wow so he calls so he calls up the diocese of LA and I don't I don't I forget the priest who answered the phone call because it's been 11 years. He said, Sir, we're not we're not real interested, you know, in in in in Protestant Catholic debates. That's not real ecumenical, but the priest did say, but we do know we do know somebody in California. He's not a priest, but he'll debate any Protestant pastor anytime, and he'll faithfully, he'll faithfully uh uh represent the Catholic Church. He's a theologian, he's an apologist. His name is Jesse Romero. So the Ali Archdiocese, which is the largest diocese in the United States, they gave Jose Mentilacion's secretary my number. They said, Call Jesse, he'll debate you. We won't do it because you know we that's not ecumenical. We don't want people's feelings to get hurt. The church doesn't engage in those debates, but Jesse, he will. He's he doesn't work for the church, he's not an employee of the church, he's uh you know, he's he's a Catholic evangelist, an apologist, and uh, but he faithfully defends Holy Mother Church. So they called me, and that's how we set it up. And by the way, here's what's interesting, Adrian. Manny was it because Manny saw that debate and we we we talked about it. And Manny and Manny did say that when I talked to him over, you know, like 11 years ago, he said, uh, wow, you did phenomenal in that debate. You know, he uh he he he he mentioned about it, he said, and I said, Yeah, they want a rematch. And Manny told me back then, this is he says, I'll tell you what, Jess, he says, uh, I and I I asked him, I said, if if we if I have a rematch with this guy, he wants I want we want to have it in downtown Los Angeles in a big venue in Los Angeles, and I asked him, Would you be the MC? He goes, I would love to be the MC. He goes, because I agree with all your arguments. I heard your arguments in his and I agree because he's a yeah, he's an evangelical Protestant right now at Manny, so it would be good for him to have heard that debate again because I go into why the Catholic Church is the one true church, but he was opening, he was open to being the MC. Can you imagine if Manny Pocket would MC a Catholic Protestant debate in downtown Los Angeles? The amount of people that would have attended. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_10 30:40

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Yeah, so why didn't it happen? Yeah, it would we would have to be like in the convention center or the or or or the sports arena.

SPEAKER_08 30:49

The reason it didn't happen, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

The reason it didn't happen is because the Glass and Cristo, they were saying, Okay, yeah, Joseph and debate Jesse on a rematch, but you guys gotta pay for it. I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. The the first debate that we had in Viselia, California, that was hosted and paid for. You got flown in by Catholics. They put you in a hotel, they paid your fees, they paid your your staff, they flew you all. I said, We paid for the first debate, the rematch. I beat you. I said, I'm not gonna pay for nothing. The winner doesn't have to pay. I said, You you want to come and debate me? You pay your own expenses, we'll get the venue, we'll get Manny Pocket to be the MC. We're not paying for you, you pay for yourself. I beat you in Viselia. Okay. Uh losers, losers can't negotiate. So that's what happened with that.

SPEAKER_10 31:38

Wow, thank you for sharing that insight.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

I figured you'd enjoy, I figured you'd enjoy this insight. Because I sure I'm sure you don't you didn't know the backstory.

SPEAKER_10 31:46

Yeah, just watch it on YouTube and and I saw how you crush every argument of Ose Mentalacion, and that's very powerful.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Adrian, also, you know what? I I I've I've got emails for years right after that debate. Filipinos from from Iglesia Negriso, they would email me. They were saying, Jesse, thank you very much. I've been part of Iglesia Negriso for so many years. I watched the debate with an open Bible, and I heard you, and I heard Jose Ventilacion, and you opened my eyes. I am now a Catholic. I went through RCIA, came into the Catholic Church as a result. So I I got hundreds and hundreds of emails of Philippines that have come either entered or come back into the Catholic Church as a result of watching that debate between me and Jose Ventilacion.

SPEAKER_10 32:34

Praise God, praise God, brother. Let's go now to our main topic, Brother Jesse. Because you said that the devil uses culture as his weapon. How exactly does Satan use music today to corrupt minds and souls of uh people?

SPEAKER_01 32:48

I'll tell you how he does it, is because remember, the devil is a fallen angel, right? His name's he was Lucifer, he's now called Satan or the devil or the dragon. And so we know that in heaven, what do angels do in heaven according to scripture? Well, according to scripture, they sing. In fact, in Job chapter 38, verse 7, the Bible says, While the morning stars, that's a reference to angels, so Lucifer was part of this, while the morning stars sang together, all the sons of God shouted for joy. So Job 38, verse 7 is talking about the way the angels they were singing to God as he created them, and as God kept on creating everything in six days, the the tradition of the Catholic Church is that the angels were singing as God was creating everything out of nothing in the six-day creation. Uh, you could see it, I could give you the Bible verses for you so people could read them. Lucifer was in charge, he was in charge of the music in heaven, and I can prove that to you because Lucifer, who's now we call the devil, in Isaiah chapter 14. Yeah, Isaiah chapter 14, verses 11 to 15, it says it says in the first verse about Lucifer, down to Sheol, your pomp, that means your pride, down to Sheol, your pomp, is brought the sound of your harps. Maggots are the couch beneath you, Lucifer. You know, worms, your blanket, how you have fallen from heaven, oh morning star, son of the dawn. The point is in that verse, Isaiah the prophet tells us that Lucifer he brought with him as he fell from heaven to earth the sound of his harps. So he had this indicates that as Isaiah is talking about Lucifer's fall from heaven, Lucifer, what what did he fall with? The sound of harps. Those are musical stringed instruments that he was in charge over. There's also another passage again in Ezekiel chapter 38, which talks about Lucifer. Ezekiel chapter 28, verse 12 to 15. It talks about Lucifer, and it talks about the fact that he was a he was a walking musical instrument. Look what it says here in verse 13. And thy pipes were prepared were prepared in the day that you were created. Talking about Lucifer, verse 15. Thou wast perfect in thy ways for the day of thy creation until sin was found in thee. Verse 17, and thy heart was filled with thy beauty, was filled up with thy beauty. Thou hast lost thy wisdom and thy beauty. I have cast thee to the ground, I have set thee before the face of the kings, that that they might behold thee. So notice specifically in verse uh 13 of Ezekiel 28, it says that Lucifer he had pipes with him when he was prepared on that day. He had pipes with him. In other words, Lucifer, according to Ezekiel 28, 12, and 15, and Isaiah chapter 14, verse 11 to 15, and Job 38, verse 7, people can read them. You can see that Lucifer was basically a walking, talking musical instrument. And as I said before, Lucifer's fall is that he told God, Nansedviam, I will not serve. What's the scriptural basis for that? The scriptural basis for Lucifer's nanserviam, his rebellion, it's recorded in the book of Jeremiah, chapter 2, verse 20. It says this quote, For long ago you broke your yoke and burst your bonds, and you said, I will not serve. Yes, upon every hill and under every green tea you bow down as a harlot. So this passage that I just shared with you, uh, from Jeremiah chapter 2, verse 20, this passage describes the devil's rebellious words which cause his fall from heaven. And historically, Jeremiah obviously he's talking about Israel and uh the way they've broken their covenant. But in this passage specifically, he's also talking about the devil's rebellion and the high hills that it talks about in the green trees, these were the centers of idol worship back in the days of Israel. They were guilty of adultery and idol worship, adultery against Yahweh, their husband. Uh, and so the Bible is very clear that Lucifer was a walking, talking, musical instrument. And since he was the highest rank of angel, he was a seraphim. The seraphim are the uh are the the angels that are surround the throne of God. And what do the seraphim do? What did Lucifer do as a seraphim that surrounds the throne of God? That's mentioned in Isaiah chapter six. It says that they pray day and night and night and day. Holy, holy, holy is the Lord. So I think that establishes the fact that Lucifer, his job in heaven as a seraphim, was he was part of God's choir, but as a seraphim, as the highest order rank of angel, he ran God's choir because the Bible tells us in Ezekiel and Isaiah that he was a walking, talking musical instrument. Now, here's another passage uh what about what angels and demons the way they control the airwaves. Okay, it's in Revelation chapter 14, verse 6. And I'm gonna prove to you that with angels they carry God's word through the air from one location to another. But it only stands to reason if angels carry God's word through the air, like the Bible says, then it stands to reason that fallen angels, demons, they also carry ungodly, profane lies, deception, evil messages through the air from one location to another. Here's the Bible verse Revelation chapter 14, verse 6. The Bible says, And I saw another angel flying through the midst of heaven, having the eternal gospel to preach unto them that sit upon the earth and over every nation and tribe and tongue and people. So again, that verse shows us that angels carry God's word through the air from one location to another to the hearts of the people. Then also remember that Satan is called in Ephesians chapter 2, verse 2. He specifically called the prince of the power of the air. That's interesting, okay? Because what does that mean? The prince of the air. That means that Satan controls that field, the the the the the spiritual realm of the cosmos, the atmosphere. That's his that's his that's what he controls because the Bible says Satan is the prince of the air, he's in control of our airways, he's the prince of technology. That's why we've before we started the show, you prayed a prayer over our computer equipment because demons also have access to technology, they use computers, they use our iPhones. I know exorcists that after they do a solemn session and they're going back to the rectory. Guess who calls them up on their iPhone? Demons call them up and curse them and and and threaten them. Say, You hurt me tonight, Father So and so. I'm gonna get you. You hurt me real bad tonight. You drove out some of my friends, I'm gonna get you. You talk to any exorcist, demons call them on their cell phone and threaten them, especially after a session. And so, because the devil's a prince of technology, he's established the foundations of his empire here on planet earth through airwaves. That's why we pray that prayer. The uh the the communication, you know, to to to bind in evil spirits from our our devices before we start a show. Uh, demons also they have access to radio waves, TV signals, communication, entertainment networks like screaming. And uh and and think about this, uh Adrian. If Satan can talk angels out of heaven, then he can talk you into hell. That's why we have to be mindful about what voices we listen to, and we have to be very mindful of the technology that we use and how we use it.

SPEAKER_10 41:16

Like you mentioned, because many songs today glorify sin, last pride, rebellion. So, what spiritual effects does this have on listeners?

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Uh, let me give you some evidence, first of all, sure, that there are there are some bad people that openly promote Satanism through their music. Because some people, some people, some people will say, No, I think you guys are making it. That's exciting. Yeah, yeah, you guys are making this stuff uh making this stuff up. I mean, come on. There's there's there's nothing there's nothing to this music. I'll I'm gonna prove it to you. The satanic high priest that started the church of Satan named Anton Levey back in 1966, and his son-in-law, his son-in-law called Nicholas Shrek, uh, they're on YouTube. So you you can only I'll send you the link after the show so you can actually see it yourself. It's only about two minutes, but they're on YouTube in an interview, and they're saying they said that through music, they said that they're going to plot to subvert using music and pop culture. Most especially, they want to manipulate the human mind through bad music and propaganda in politics. This is Anton LeVay, he's on YouTube, and his son-in-law, Nicholas Shrek, that they are going to use the music and pop culture to manipulate the human mind and to promote propaganda in politics.

SPEAKER_05 42:39

Music. This is your album, Nicholas. It's called Radio Werewolf. The Fiery Summons. You're pretty good at marketing yourself. That's the devil's place.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

Of course. Advertising.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

I think you and I agree with that. Uh you're you're a self-described satanic musician. You've heard his music, Zena. What what does it sound like? You tell me.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

It's more along the lines of classical music. It would be the equivalent to it is satanic gospel, I guess you could say. It would be the equivalent of what you have.

SPEAKER_05 43:16

Except the word gospel means good news in this case, it's nice to us. What does the music do to you when you listen to his music? How does it affect you in a certain way? Is there something about the mood, uh, the ambiance of this? What does it do to you?

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Well, the music that and I'm beginning to work with Nicholas on his music, we make music for a purpose. It's not just background music or it's not just, you know, fluffy light stuff.

SPEAKER_05 43:43

It's not this is not elevator satanic music.

SPEAKER_00 43:46

It's ritualistic music. It is music that by even the act of listening to it, you are participating in a satanic ritual.

SPEAKER_05 43:53

By listening to so if I put this on and listen to it, I'm participating. But I'm just you're a listener. I'm asking you, how does it make

SPEAKER_02 44:00

You feel like it's very stirring. It's very emotionally charged. You can't listen to this music and say you don't feel something because you do. I'm sure you would probably feel either hate or fear or rage or something.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

I just think he's a great musician. I just say the guy's very talented. Right, but I would say that someone who would listen to it would probably feel very similarly to how one might feel if they're listening to classical music that is bombastic and here's a song called Incubus, which is about uh sexual cohabitation with demons, a human being cohabiting with a spirit being.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Right. That's what it is. That's correct.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

True. So um how does that make you feel?

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Well, this is another thing.

SPEAKER_05 44:44

This is a woman cohabiting with a demon.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Right. There are succubuses too.

SPEAKER_05 44:48

Does that make you want to do it or what?

SPEAKER_02 44:52

That's fairly bring it down to me.

SPEAKER_05 44:55

He says it is ritual music that draws you into particular song. That particular song is designed to. What does it do?

SPEAKER_02 45:07

It's very stimulating, of course.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

It's designed for sexual sexually stimulate.

SPEAKER_05 45:12

Of course. Prepare one for a cohabitation with a demon?

SPEAKER_00 45:15

I don't believe in demons. I'm using a mythological word, incubus. It it's an archetype. It is a real force, but you believe in demons. I don't. You're talking about demons. I'm not.

SPEAKER_05 45:27

Is this commercial music? Is this uh is it gonna sell, or is it just Satanists who listen to this? Or who's gonna run on the records?

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Satanists listen to it, and people who respond to a satanic philosophy, whether they call themselves Satanists or not, listen to it. But it is not intended for the millions. Certainly not.

SPEAKER_05 45:46

You mentioned King Diamond earlier. Uh King Diamond is a member of the Church of Satan, correct? King Diamond is a metal musician, kind of thrash metal, black metal. Um how do you feel about the uh botelicas and slayers of the world?

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Well, musically, I think they're I hate rock music. I think rock music's one of the most dangerous influences on young people in a long time.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

Why is it dangerous?

SPEAKER_02 46:15

It promotes self-destruction, which we're adamantly opposed to.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

It promotes the use of drugs.

SPEAKER_05 46:21

It promotes a very conformist attitude, even though rock musicians and does it bother you, Zina, that they're kind of using your symbols and your faith and ripping it off to get rich?

SPEAKER_02 46:35

No, I wouldn't say it bothers me because they're doing what they have to do.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

It's a sign of the times, unfortunately, but it is But if it gets a kid into Satanism, hey, isn't that better for you? No, no, it really doesn't. It doesn't. All it does is give them a surface illusion, which really has nothing to do with Satanism. So it is of no value to us that these people utilize satanic imagery. If we had public records.

SPEAKER_05 46:59

Excuse me, I don't I don't understand why.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Because it seems to me because that isn't Satanism, what they're encouraging, drug use, the whole heavy metal isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 47:06

What's getting them away from Christianity?

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Isn't that No, it really isn't. It really isn't.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

Because these kids are better either.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

No, just just getting away from the real ideological purists. Absolutely. We're an elitist organization.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

I mean, we feel that if people are happy being Christians, that they should stay that way. I'm not interested in driving people away from Christianity whatsoever.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

If you want to be a Christian, you have every right to be a Christian. We don't want you to become a Satanist. We just want people who are already with us. We're not trying to convert or proselytize. And I think that has not been understood until this point.

SPEAKER_05 47:42

You don't want to recruit.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

You don't want to convert. There's only a limited amount of people in the world who can truly say they respond to the satanic philosophy or understand it. It isn't for the millions, it isn't for the masses, it is for the rulers and leaders of the earth. It's for people who achieve. That's 1% of humanity can achieve. Now, people are going to move away from Christianity in droves, and they are, but that doesn't mean they're all going to become Satanists.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

You described the Bible as an occult book.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

You also have another famous musician called Marilyn Manson. He was an he was he was very involved in the occult. He promoted rock music. Marilyn Manson also said, quote, music is the strongest form of magic. Close quote. And so Marilyn Manson, in this interview, he talks about the way music has the power to evoke emotions, it has the power to transform experiences and to pro and to create profound connections. He also said music has the ability to transport, transcend, and cast spells on listeners. I can also give you some more evidence of the fact that uh music has been used by some very bad people to do some very bad, very bad things. So this is you got, for example, uh Confucius, who's a who was the founder of the Confucius religion uh before Christ, before Christianity, uh even before Judaism, he says this, Confucius quote, if you want to know the morality of a nation, let me hear the music. So Confucius said that the music of a nation will drive the morality of the nation. You got Plato, who was uh who was a Greek philosopher, and he wrote in his book, The Republic, he said this. He said, he said, musical training is a more potent instrument than any other, because rhythm and harmony find their way into inward places of the soul. He said, Musical innovation is full of danger to the state. For when the modes of music change, the laws of the state always change with them. He also said, lawlessness and music eventually dismantled Athens and Greece. You also have a very famous American philosopher named Henry David Thoreau, back in the 19th century. He said this music can be intoxicating, such apparently slight causes destroyed Greece and Rome, and will destroy England and America if we don't watch out. So these are historians that are talking about the power of music. Uh, Dr. E. Michael Jones, who's also written a book on music, he's a Catholic. He says, Music acts directly on the human soul. Disordered music leads to disordered lives, which leads to disorder in the state and in the country. Uh, a very famous Catholic priest by the name of Father Bassel Nortz, he has a lecture called Music and Morality. He says, quote, music is the only entity that enters your soul without the consent of your will. And he says, Music when healthy is the teacher of perfect order. Music when it is depraved is the is the teacher of perfect disorder. That's the point. Father Ripperger says the same thing, other exorcists. Music either orders the soul and the intellect property, or music disorders the soul and the intellect, because what it does, it triggers the emotions and the passions. Here's a powerful one. This is a Roman philosopher, Seneca, back in 65 A.D. He said this quote, vices and sins more easily enter the soul while one is being entertained by music. I'll prove that to you. I'll prove this point. Exhibit A. Let's look at Sean P. Diddy Combs, the East Coast black rapper. What was he doing? He was entertaining people through music and starting, you know, for years and years this uh this in the these sex rings, these these orgy parties to music. It was done to music, and and what and in sp in Spanish music, since my parents are from Mexico, I'm not I'm from America, but my parents are from Mexico. In Spanish, the Mexican cartels, they're all Satanists. All the Mexican cartels have consecrated themselves as Satanists. They all have kind of like black rap, they have Mexican rap. They call it narco corridos. Narco corridos, that basically means narcotic rap, and that's a type of music by Mexican, uh, you know, secular humanists, where they talk about the illegal activities of drug trafficking and all the women they get, all the money they make, but they do like it. It's it's like Spanish rap. They call it narco, which comes from narcotics, narco, and uh gorridos, which means which means a song. And so they in Spanish they sing about these songs like the blacks do, you know, in the black rap, they sing about illegal activities, you know, to dance music, they do it to dance music, and they they talk about about the life of a cartel, about killing people, about money. And so the fact of the matter is, music can both establish or destroy morality because there's no path that's more open to the soul for the formation of the human person than through the ears. That's why God gave us two ears and one mouth, you know. Uh, so it's it's it's a very, very this is why the Catholic Church is always talking, talking, talking about taking take custody of your mind, take custody of your mind. In other words, just because you can see something on the internet doesn't mean you should see it on the internet, like pornography, just because you have the ability to doesn't mean you should, because it will start disordering the mind and the thoughts and the imagination. Just because you can hear, you know, black rap or narco corridos or or or satanic hard rock, just because you can hear it, doesn't mean you should hear it. We we're called to take you know self-mastery. We're we're different from animals, we can't live by our passions, and that's what this music, this bad music, this profane music, that's what it does, Adrian. It fuels our passions, emotions, and appetites in a negative direction.

SPEAKER_10 54:25

Uh, how about this popular? I'll I'll mention is her name, Taylor Sweep. She's a witch, she's doing spell in it uh in her song. What can you say about that?

SPEAKER_01 54:35

That's a fact. Uh, I'm trying to think uh because I did I did a show probably about two years ago. I should have grabbed the show notes. I I just didn't think about it. But what I did, and I'll just set I'll send them to you. I'll get them, I'll send them to you so you can do I I I got I did a show where I name basically all the very famous actors and entertainers, Taylor Swift being one of them, she's on this list, and they all admit they're all on interviews or on you know, they they've done so this is all on social media, and all of them admit there's about 15 high-profile women, and they admit that they've given their life to Satan, and and they admit that they, you know, have done satanic rituals, Taylor Swift being one of them, one of the 15 I'm talking about. And they admit that uh that their life that in their lyrics they promote the dark occult, the dark arts and Satanism. This is common in Hollywood, Adrian. I know I know several actors in Hollywood. I won't mention their names because they don't want me to mention their names. And they'll they've told me that Hollywood is basically run by Satanists, witches, and homosexuals. And if you're a Catholic or a Protestant that lives their faith openly, you if you want to work in Hollywood, you got to keep your mouth shut.

SPEAKER_10 55:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

And and I'll tell you, uh, music has a powerful effect. For example, I'll give you an example that the powerful effect on music. Like when you go to a mass, you know, with a good choir that does sacred music, or the Latin mass where you could hear Gregorian chant. Yeah, you can feel that peace that comes into your soul. Right, you can feel that peace that comes into your mind. Yeah, sacred music it appeals to the intellect and the will, and and it lifts up your mind and your heart to God. It it Gregorian chant and Catholic sacred music, it doesn't appeal to your emotions or appetites. The beauty of sacred Catholic music or chant, it draws us into contemplation of God, into contemplation of divine truths and the mysteries of the Catholic Mass. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, Adrian, when music is improper for mass. I'll tell you. If the music at mass makes you, you know, snap your finger, clap, bob your head, shake your butt, or tap your foot, okay, that's not sacred music. That's not sacred music. If the music at mass makes you tap your toes, your foot, shake your butt, snap your fingers, clap your hands, and bob your head, that's not sacred music. That music is right for your emotions, and it it it's it bypasses the intellect, it's going right to your emotions, and that music, even if it's at mess, we would call it disordered. I'll give you the power of music. I'll give you an example of the power of music. You remember in the Old Testament in Exodus chapter 32, when the Israelites, they uh Moses went to go get the Ten Commandments from God. Aaron stood there with the Israelites at the foot of the mountain, and then all of a sudden it says, the Bible says, When Joshua heard the noise of the people as he as they shouted, he said to Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp. But he said, It is not the sound of shouting for victory or the sound of the cry of defeat, but the sound of singing that I hear. And as soon as he came near the camp and saw the calf, the golden calf, and the dancing, Moses' anger burned hot, and he threw the tables of the Ten Commandments out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain. Now, here's what's interesting here. Okay, so people are saying, So, why did Moses get so mad when he saw his fellow people when he came back down from the mountain when he saw them dancing? I'll tell you why. Because that English word in your Bible, the English word that he saw the Israelites dancing before the golden calf, the actual Hebrew word is it's a euphemism. They were having a sexual orgy. In your English Bible, this says dancing. In the Hebrew, it's actually saying they had a sexual orgy. So in the Old Testament, profane music was used for worshiping false gods, the people would get naked and have an orgy. You also have another story where music has evil purposes in the Bible. This occurred with the second king of Babylon called Nebuchadnezzar, who captured Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These are three Israelites, and he tried to force them to worship a false Babylonian god as soon as as soon as the king played Babylonian pagan music. And so these three Israelites were supposed to go down prostrate and worship this false god to the sound of pagan music, but they refused to violate the first commandment. And so he threw them in this fiery furnace. But God saved them. So what's the point that I'm making? We see in the Bible that music can be used for evil, evil purposes. It's a double-edged sword, but music can also be used for good purposes. For example, in Colossians 3:16, the Bible says, Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, and sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with thankfulness in your hearts to God. So again, there's that that verse shows that the Bible it's it's it's a two-edged sword or or or music. It can be used for evil or good. Psalm 66, verse 1 and 2. Make a joyful noise to the Lord. All the earth sing the glory of his name, give to him glorious praise. Psalm 104 33. I will sing to the Lord as long as I live, I will sing praise to my God while I have been. May my meditation be pleasing to him, for I rejoice in the Lord. So here we see it's very clear. The Bible music can be used to glorify God, or it could be used to glorify evil. So it's how we use music and what music we listen to. Because and we know that Satan he uses music to sow confusion, to put out propaganda, he uses music to you know to exploit the emotions of people that have weak faith, a tepid faith. You know, uh, for example, the devil uses what's called verbal engineering, even in music. The devil uses words and twists them. For example, you've heard people say, Oh, abortion, it's it's the it's a medical choice. No, it's not, it's murder. Or people say, Oh, brothels, those are called gentlemen's clubs. No, they're not, they're whorehouses. Okay, and so see see that's what the devil does. He'll take the words even within music and he'll twist it. And so you have to ask yourself as a Catholic Christian. Uh uh Ecclesiastes chapter 7, verse 5 says, It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise than for a man to hear the song of fools. The song of fools. In other words, the Bible says, Don't hear the song of fools. Ask yourself this question: would you listen to certain music if Jesus Christ, if you saw him sitting right next to you on the couch, would you be listening to that music or watching that movie? Music that contains lyrics that promote sexual sin, hate, drugs, killing, misogyny, suicide, racism, basket, blasphemy. Would you listen to that music if you can visibly see Jesus sitting right next to you? I think you know the answer to that.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:18

Right, right. And uh, Brother Jesse, I'm curious about uh Protestant worship song. What can you say about them? What can you say about that? It's is is it okay to listen uh to those things?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:28

Yeah, uh I listen to Protestant worship music outside of mass. That's proper. Oftentimes when I'm driving in my car, uh that's kind of a better alternative to listen to a Protestant, you know, praise and worship than listening to a lot of secular music. So when I drive in my car, I'll listen to Protestant music. Maybe, you know, uh when I'm at the gym and working out, I'll put on my my headphones, I'll listen to praise and worship music because that's energetic, it's upbeat. Okay, but but that music, properly speaking, is not proper for the holy sacrifice of the mass, the sacred liturgy. Vatican II says very clearly in Sacrosanctum Concilium that the music that should be taking pride of place at the Catholic Mass is Latin Gregorian chant. Why? Because it's non-emotional music, it's music that doesn't trigger the emotions. And so the mass is an encounter with God in the soul, in the human soul. It's not an encounter with God, you know, through jumping up in the air, you know, on our toes and pumping our hands up in the air with smoke machines and hearing loud music. That that's emotionalism, but yeah, but but sacred music does have a place, uh uh Adrian. For example, I'll give you an example. I'm not gonna read it, you can read it after I get off the show. But in the book of in the book of 1 Samuel, chapter 16, verses 14 to 23, King Saul was possessed by a demon. So I'll just basically narrate the story. So he's calling all his servants, and he's trying to have his servants that work for him to help him because he's being tormented by a demon. And you know, all his his uh court jesters, his uh his court officials are trying this, that, and the other, and nothing's working. Somebody says, Hey, there's a little boy, you know, there's a little young boy that he plays a harp and he sings to God. Maybe we'll bring him in. So they brought in little David, young David, and he entered into the courtroom of King Saul, who's demonically possessed. And the Bible says, I'll read verse 23. It says this, and whenever the evil spirit from God was upon King Saul, David took the lyre and played it with his hands. So King Saul was refreshed and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him. So in this in this story, King Saul was liberated from diabolic affliction or possession. How? Through sacred music that was played by King David. And and if you talk to any Jewish rabbi, I've actually studied this, so you're wondering, wow, how did King Saul play? What what type of music was it that he played that drove the demon out from King Saul who was possessed? I'll tell you what music it was, because Jewish rabbis that teach that teach Jewish history, and I've talked to them, they'll say this they'll say, Catholic Gregorian chant was not invented by Catholics. Catholic Gregorian chant is the type of style of music that was used by the Jews in the Old Testament. The Jews chanted in Hebrew to God in cadence, just like you hear in Latin. It was the Catholic Church, the medieval monks and theologians and saints that saw the Jewish form of singing, and they took that style of singing to God. And instead of using Hebrew, they just used Latin because Latin is the official language of the church. So when you hear Gregorian chant, that's the way the Jews sang to God. For thousands of years, except in Hebrew, not in Latin. So if you've ever, I remember this one Jewish rabbi I was talking to, he was a professor in New York University. He teaches, he teaches Jewish history. He goes, Jess, if you ever want to know how how Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, how they prayed and how they sung, he goes, You want to know how they sung? He goes, Listen to Gregorian chant. That's how they prayed and sang, except they did it in Hebrew, not in Latin. He goes, You Catholics borrowed that style of singing from the Jews.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:32

Wow, that's that's interesting. Very interesting insight. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

I hope I thought it was uh Pope Gregory who who yeah, he's the one that he gave it to us in back in the fifth century, Bob Gregory the Great, but he borrowed that style of singing, of chanting in cadence from the Jews because he again he was a his, you know, he was he's Saint Gregory the Great, and so he had access to all these archives of how the Jews sang to God. And we also know this there's an institute in San Francisco called Adoremos, run by Father Fessi, who's a who's a doctor in theology. He got his doctorate from from Pope Benedict the 16th. He also teaches this, he teaches Gregorian chant uh through Adoremos, and he says that the Catholic Gregorian chant, he goes in his research and studies for his PhD, was borrowed from the Jews. That's the way the Jews sung to God in the Old Testament.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:26

Let me give you one. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Go on, go on, brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Here's another powerful story about the power of singing to God. And I'll just I'll just I'll tell the people where it's that so they can read it on their own. It's in Acts chapter 16, verses 19 to 26. Paul and Silas are arrested by the Jews that hate Jesus, and they seize them and they they drag them into a marketplace, they beat them up, then they threw them in prison. So Paul and Silas are in prison, and it's about midnight, and then all of a sudden, Paul says to Silas, Hey, let's start praying, and let's start singing to God. So the Bible says they started singing to God, and look what happens in verse 25 and 26. It says this, but about midnight, Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them, and suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken, and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone's chains were unfastened. Close quote. So notice that the singing and praising God moved the hand of God, which caused the Lord to perform a miracle, and God blew the doors open of all the jail cells because two apostles sang to God from jail. Powerful, huh?

SPEAKER_10 1:08:38

Yeah. I was about to mention that that's why the devil cannot really stand uh hearing the Gregorian chant.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:47

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He does he he hates sacred music. Uh and again, Gregorian chant, like we said, it it had it it uh Gregorian chant doesn't appeal to your emotions. You don't feel like you're not clapping and bouncing your head, you know. Gregorian chant, it appeals, it appeals to the intellect, to the will. Gregorian chant, there's this the beauty of the chant naturally draws us into thinking and contemplating God and all the divine truths and all the divine mysteries. And so this is why, as Catholics, it is the preferred music in the sacred liturgy.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:22

And brother Jesse, is it really possible for demons to attach to them uh themselves to certain type of music?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

Oh, without a doubt, yeah, without a doubt. Uh you again, you can um you can hear people, rock stars that I've read in a lot of their interviews, they'll actually say that when they're singing from on stage or in a concert, they say their music is meant to evoke demons. They're calling demons through their lyrics, and many of these rock stars in interviews, they admit that they can see demons in the audience, they can see demons amongst the people. Absolutely. Uh, there's a principle of spiritual warfare goes like this uh angels go where they are called, and demons go where they're not resisted. And demons are also attracted to what's dark, to what's profane, to what's vulgar, to what's impure, to what's uh to what offends God. And so music is one of the most powerful ways. Again, like I quoted in the top of the show, I quoted Anton LeVay, I quoted another uh high famous uh Satanist. They know the power of music. I quoted Confucius, I quoted uh Plato, I quoted several uh people know the power of music to evoke demons. This is something that's common knowledge, and and even as as Catholics, I'll I'll tell you, as Catholics, one of the worst heresies, and I'm sure you've heard of it, back in the fourth century, there was a heresy called Arianism.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:54

Arianism, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:55

Yeah, there was a Catholic priest, Father Arius, who was denying that Jesus, he was Father Arius of Alexandria, he denied that Jesus Christ was fully God. He said that Jesus Christ was a created being. He said that there was a there was a time when Jesus Christ was not. So his he he held that he held like the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons, that God the Father created Jesus Christ in a given point in time, that Jesus is not is not the second person of the Trinity, that he's not co-eternal. Okay. Now here's what's interesting. Most people don't know. It was by it was at the Council of Nicaea, or the council of fathers in 325 AD. They they they settled this heresy and they crushed it and they clarified that Jesus Christ is co-equal, homie, homoosus with the Father, that he's the divine son of God. But you know how Arius was so uh effective in spreading this heresy? Most people don't know this. Father Arius was a musician and a singer. So what he would do is he would take to the streets and at mass, and he would sing, he would sing uh heretical lyrics, he would teach Aesy through his music that Jesus was not equal to the Father. And so the common people would listen to his hereticals. And you know, when you listen to a song, you could remember one or two sentences, one or two lyrics. Yes, the common people that were simple, they would go around singing that lyric from Father Arius of Alexandria. Uh you know, the lyric that he was not God, that Jesus Christ was created by the Father. So people go around singing it. This is how his heresy spread far and wide. He spread it through song and music because he knew the power of song and music.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:39

Yeah, it's easy to memorize.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

Yes, yes. And uh, and and I'll even say, you know, uh, it's it's kind of sad, but even a lot of our modern Catholic music has been infiltrated, Adrian. If you notice, many many of our modern Catholic hymns have poor theology, and and and some of a lot of it speaks heresy in modernist church music. You'll uh you know, you hear you hear some solids, they'll say we're they're singing, they're saying, Jesus is in the bread. Oh, Jesus. No, he's not in the bread. The bread changes into the substance of the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ. Right, right. And so in fact, the songs at Mass, which are owned by there's this one big company called GIA, and there's another big Catholic music company called OCP Publications. I can give you articles where both of these Catholic companies that fund liturgical music, uh, these publications they fund abortion, they fund transgenderism, they fund LGB LGBTQ causes. In fact, there's a Catholic lesbian by the name of Brenda Cronin, she's a yoga instructor. She started a company called One License, and this company, this company now owns OCP and GIA, which are the largest Catholic liturgical companies in the world. They make tons of money every year because you have to buy their license to use their heretical music at mass.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:08

Wow, yeah. That's actually sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

I mean, how how it's it's infiltrated our yes, it's infiltrated our church. Absolutely. And uh it and I'll tell you, I'll give you an example of how music impacts the soul. I'm gonna give you, I'll give you an example. Okay, music was initially created for the purpose of glorifying God, because in heaven, when God created the angels, they started singing immediately. As God was creating everything in the sixth day of creation, the angels were singing in the background. So music was originally created to glorify God, heaven was created with the background of music. But what Satan has done, because he was one of the choir director, the choir director as a top seraphim, and now that he fell, and now that he's he's Lucifer, the devil, what Satan has done with music from that point on is to make it now more racy, vulgar, nasty, obscene, vile, profane, sexual. Why? Because the devil knows that music is a powerful language that stirs and moves a soul so deeply, it's as though our very feelings are moved and dictated by each lyric or each note. And this truth has been illustrated throughout the Bible. Again, like I'd said in the Old Testament, David uh drove a demon out of the heart of King Saul through me through sacred music. Then we also have the story of the Pied Piper. The Pied Piper used music to tame and lure mice, and then he ran them into the into the into the ocean or into a lake or something. So for centuries, we've known that music it's uh, you know, it it it can arouse the listeners. That's what we, you know, Baroque music, renaissance music, classical composers such as Bach and Handel and Beethoven and Mozart, they've aroused in the listeners emotions of peace or emotions of fury, agitation, or emotions of joy, all through the language of music. So the music that we listen to, it not only creates our atmosphere, but it also sets our mood, but it also mysteriously influences our disposition and it alters our perspective and daily life. So, due to this enormous impact, it's wise to be attentive to the music to which one is exposed to. Because again, if you ignore this, and we've known this for thousands of years, that music moves the soul towards holiness or towards worldliness. I'm done, my friend. I've said everything I have to say.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:47

Yeah, but I have so many um questions. Uh, how about the words rock and roll? Is uh, what is the origin of it, uh brother Jesse?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:56

The word rock and roll, when you look it up, it's actually a reference to the sexual act of fornication. That's what rock and roll means in the world of music. Right, when they say hey, let's rock and roll, it means let's fornicate. That's what it means. Yeah, so when you say it, uh even you the intention, you don't know what's the no, well, see, you and me don't know that we don't you and me don't know that, but the people that use it that are in that field, see you and me are not in that field of of music, so you know we probably we you and me just know rock and roll as one of the genres of music, it's a type of music, right? But what that phrase means, the ones that that that coined that phrase, to them, they know exactly what although it identifies a genre music, it for them rock and roll singers and artists for them it means the sexual act of fornication.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:49

Yeah, uh, if we listen to those kinds of music, are are we committing mortal sin, brother Jesse?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:57

Yeah, I would say I'm gonna take a Bible verse to try to answer that question. There's uh a Bible verse, it's uh at it's in the book of Philippians, chapter four, verse uh yeah, Philippians chapter four, verse eight. And I and I think this is kind of a good way to understand your question. St. Paul about what music we should listen to. He says this Philippians 4 8. He says, quote, finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Think about these things. I think that's a criteria for the type of music that we should be listening to. Uh, is the music that you're listening to, is it going to promote a clean heart or an unclean heart? Because Matthew 5:8, our Lord says, Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. So you have to ask yourself, is the music I'm listening to, is it driving me towards unclean thoughts, an unclean heart? Like, like, don't get me wrong, I'm an old guy, but I still like to exercise, okay? Because I, you know, I was an athlete when I was when I was younger, so I still like to exercise. So when I exercise, I don't put Gregorian chant on, okay. You know what I do? I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you're gonna probably laugh at me, okay? You're gonna laugh at me. I put on rocky music, okay? Y'all gonna laugh at me.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:34

Rocky Rocky.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:36

I put on an hour and a half of Rocky music, all the music from all the Rocky movies, one, two, three, four, all the people. Yeah, and and and so that's that's the background because it because I do want to get my my passions uh aroused. I do want to be able to do push-ups and pull-ups and hit the you know, so so yeah, there is music that is appropriate. You know, you go to a dentist's office, they want to calm you down, right? So they're not playing like heavy metal or hard rock, or they're not playing like you know, black rap, they're playing kind of like soft music. So there is music that is appropriate to certain settings, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for example, people that watch a UFC fight, you see the UFC fighters when they walk in the ring, they walk into kind of like loud music, you know, loud music with a lot of instruments. Why? Well, they're trying to, in their mind, they're trying to get ready to step in the ring to fight. So yeah, so you know, even even think about a funeral, beautiful Catholic funeral with uh like where somebody in the military dies, they play, they play with Irish bagpipes, they play that song taps with the bagpipes. That's beautiful. You know, when you're going to a Catholic funeral of somebody who's in the military and they play the bagpipes, that's beautiful. So, yeah, so there are certain and for example, I you know, I I've even read that in American history that uh when uh the Americans were going into war against the British, the American soldiers, they were marching, they were playing drums and playing the flute as they were going into war against the Brits. So music does have a place in our society, but again, uh we have to, as the Bible says in Romans chapter 12, verse 2, uh do not conform yourself, uh do not conform yourself to the spirit of this age, but renew yourself by but renew yourself by the renewal of your mind. In other words, as as Catholics, make sure that what you're listening to, if all you're listening to is bad worldly music, guess what? It is gonna have an effect on you. You just you you can't just be listening to to you know uh Rocky music all day. You know what I'm saying? You you you you it's there's a time for rocky music, like I said, when I work out in my gym tonight. I just got the verse, Romans 12:2. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. So once again, it goes back to uh what you put in your mind is what's gonna come out. There's a there's a term is in the computer world, it's called giggo, giggo, g-i-g o garbage in, garbage out. So what yeah, got you watch what you listen to.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:35

Uh, is bach bach masking still uh happening today, uh, brother Jesse?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

They don't have to do it today because now it's in the lyrics. That was back in the 60s and 70s, where you would spin some of these heavy metal records backwards and you would get a satanic lyric, a satanic statement. They don't they're not hiding it no more, Adrian. They're doing it now openly in the lyrics. So backward masking is it's not necessary anymore. The uh a lot of these uh singers are very open about promoting Satanism and the occult right in their lyrics.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:07

How about in in a public place and they are uh playing this kind of music? So, how we can how can we protect ourselves from this? Because it is it can uh enter in our subconscious mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

Make sure that you if you enter into a public place, make sure you're in a state of grace. Okay, make sure you're wearing sacramentals around your neck, like this, and make sure, like when I walk into a public place where which I know something like that is happening, you know, let's say you walk into a casino or Vegas or something, you know, as I'm walking in, I'll say, Lord Jesus Christ, cover me and my wife, because I'm usually with my wife. Lord Jesus Christ, cover me and my wife with your precious blood in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Virgin Most Powerful, pray for me and protect me. Saint Joseph Terra Bemis, pray for me and protect me. Boom, that quick. So you call you do a prayer of protection as soon as you walk into a place like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:55

Wow. Yeah, thank you. That because that will be relevant, because we cannot avoid those kind of no, no, they're all over us, they're all over us, absolutely. Side question, brother Jesse. Because you once had a face-to-face encounter with the infamous hero killer Richard Ramirez. Right. The night the night stalker. Correct. What happened during that encounter?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:14

That during that encounter, I'll just make it very quick. I've done videos on that so in detail. But basically, um, I asked him, can he say Jesus is Lord? And he physically could not say that. Those words were not come out of his mouth. And there was other Satanists in that cell block because I was a young deputy sheriff in the Los Angeles County jail. There's other young Satanists that I asked if they can say Jesus is Lord, and they physically could not do that. It's like if their mouth was their jaw was broken shut immediately as soon as they try to say the name Jesus. Their mouth would just shut like there was cement in their mouth, and they're grunting. And they're trying to say Jesus is Lord because I promised them an extra, extra food that I would bring into their jail cell. But it's interesting, other people that are murderers, but that are not satanic murderers, and I've asked them in the jail if they can say Jesus is Lord, like black, Asian, Hispanic, white killers that are like bikers or gang members or drug dealers, and they've killed people, and many people, they all can say Jesus is Lord. The only people that I've noticed when I worked the LA County jail that could not say Jesus is Lord are satanic killers. When you kill for Satan, that name will not come out of your mouth, Jesus is Lord. At least that was my experience in the LA County jail with satanic serial killers.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:28

During that time, do you really feel the evilness of the side?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:31

Oh, yeah. You can when you yeah, when you talk to a satanist like Richard Ramirez, and I talk to many of them, satanic serial killers, there's a presence about them that you can feel. It's just like when you're talking to somebody, you can feel like you know, you talk to a Catholic priest, you feel goodness coming from them. Right, you can feel a spirit of like goodness, a good spirit, you know, like holiness. Same thing when you talk to a satanist, the satanics, you can feel they radiate an evil spirit. You can sense that the the evil all around them, you could feel it's tangible. Um, and it's because again, because we as as Catholics, if you live in a state of grace, that's called discernment of spirits. You have the ability to sense good and sense evil when you're in a state of grace and have a prayer life.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:14

Is he possessed by the devil? I mean, he's uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

Richard in his case, yeah, he was possessed. He was, but that's called perfect possession. Perfect possession, it's yeah, or it's it's a term that's used. It was coined by Father Malachie Martin back in the 60s. It's a term that means that when when an when a person is so evil that they they by an act of their will, they align their will with Satan's will or a demon's will. They say, Yep, I want to be your buddy, I want to be your friend, let's align our will, let's have, let's have a symbiotic and compatible relationship with each other. That's called perfect possession. And and satanic satanists are perfectly possessed. A lot oftentimes they won't manifest because, again, they have they have a comfortable relationship with a demon. And so the demon's not going to attack them or torment them uh or manifest through them because they're completely compatible with the demon. I started my own YouTube show. It's called the Jesse Romero Show. So if you like this interview that I'm doing with Adrian and you like information like this, I talk like this on my channel every day. It's called the Jesse Romero Show. It's on YouTube, and I talk just like I'm talking to Adrian, I give facts just like this every single day. So thank you very much, Adrian, for hosting me.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:30

Yeah, for sure. I will just put all these links. Maybe you can send it to me and I'll send it to you after the show. Maybe you can uh close us with final words to our viewers and a closing prayer, Brother Jesse.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:42

Absolutely. Final words uh to your listeners is this so what is actually Catholic spiritual warfare? I'll tell you what Catholic spiritual warfare is in a nutshell. Cal Catholic spiritual warfare are three things. Number one, it's Christ centered Catholicism, number two, it focuses on living. Clean a clean life and being liberated from the diabolic. And number three, the demon that's attacking or tormenting the person that's tertiary. He's kind of like, you know, way, way uh at the bottom of the ladder. Catholic spiritual warfare is Christ-centered first, a relationship with Jesus Christ. Number two, focusing on the interior life and the healing and liberation of the person. Number three, uh, the the liberation from the diabolic oppression, obsession, affliction. That's tertiary. And uh remember, as Catholics, remember this stay close to Jesus, stay close to our lady, stay close to Saint Michael, stay close to Saint Joseph, and stay close to your guardian angel. That is that is God the Father's dream team, especially his son Jesus.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

But let me wrap it up with a quick prayer if that's okay with you. Yeah. Name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Come, Holy Spirit, come by the powerful intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, your most well-beloved spouse. Oh, Holy Spirit, beloved of my soul, I adore you. Enlighten me, guide me, strengthen me, console me, tell me what I should do, give me your orders. I promise to submit myself to all that you desire of me and to accept all that you permit to happen to me. Let me only know your will. We pray this in the name of the Father, Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:20

Amen. Thank you so much, brother Jesse Romero. And what an honor, privilege to have you. And I learned so much from you. And before we let you go, because you have books uh where they can find those resources.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:33

I have you, I have go to my website, uh jessyromero.com, jessyromero.com. I have many books that I've written. I've got about three books that I've written on spiritual warfare, so it's on my website, jessyromero.com. And also uh tune into my new show on YouTube and all the other social media platforms. It's called if you like this interview, you're gonna like my show. It's called the Jesse Romero Show. Thank you, Adrian.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:54

Thank you, brother Jesse. Let's keep in touch. Uh yes, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:58

God bless and keep the faith, brother.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:10

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