EXORCIST REVEALS: Ang PINAKA-MALAKAS na DEMON sa PILIPINAS NGAYON

0:00 – INTRO
5:15 – Fr. Winston's Role as an Exorcist
8:03 – Personal Journey into Ministry
14:08 – Understanding Demonic Mindsets (Movies & Theology)
21:37 – The St. Michael Center and Official Exorcism Protocols
28:16 – Use of Eastern Church Prayers and Research
49:48 – Four Principles of Spiritual Warfare
50:41 – Mental Health and Maintaining Sanity in Ministry
58:59 – La Naval de Manila and Manaoag Devotion
1:01:44 – Veritas and Truth in the Age of Social Media & AI
1:16:18 – The Most Active Demon Today: Asmodeus (Violent Lust)
1:26:00 – The Rise of the Antichrist and Deception
1:33:56 – Myths vs. Reality (Encantos, White Lady, Third Eye)
1:47:18 – Healthy Skepticism and Psychological Assessment
1:57:36 – Understanding Possession (Full vs. Partial)
2:02:25 – Redemptive Suffering and God's Wisdom
2:10:41 – Closing the Third Eye and Occult Renunciation
2:21:28 – Practical Resources and Process at AMO
2:28:25 – Correction of Misconceptions about Pious Practices
2:30:20 – Final Blessing and Conclusion

A powerful and timely interview on Istoryang Katoliko with Fr. Winston Ferdinand Cabading, O.P. — Rector & Prior of Santo Domingo Church (National Shrine of Our Lady of La Naval de Manila), Official Exorcist of the Archdiocese of Manila, and Dominican priest with over 13 years in the Ministry of Spiritual Liberation and Exorcism.

Sa malalim at matinding usapan na ito, ibinahagi ni Fr. Winston ang kanyang personal journey sa exorcism ministry, ang katotohanan tungkol sa duende, kapre, third eye, witchcraft, at occult practices. 

Inihayag niya rin ang power ng Eastern Church prayers (kabilang ang Prayer of St. Cyprian of Nicomedia laban sa black magic), kung paano ginagamit ang damit ni Our Lady of La Naval sa exorcism, at ang 4 na importanteng principles para sa spiritual battle: Jesus is Lord. Stay in the boat of Peter. Jesus loves His Church. Jesus loves you.

Hindi lang ito ordinaryong interview — ito ay isang malakas na spiritual warfare wake-up call na kailangan ng bawat Kristiyano sa panahong ito.

Resources & Updates:
Archdiocese of Manila Office of Exorcism (AMOE):
https://amoe.ph

Facebook – Archdiocese of Manila Office of Exorcism:
https://www.facebook.com/exorcismphilippines

Recommended Books on Spiritual Liberation & Exorcism:

Iadya Mo Kami (Mga Panalangin ng Layko Laban sa Masasamang Espiritu): https://shope.ee/4fXckfhjO8

ANAK NG PITONG SALA: https://shope.ee/lnCAxXtY

Oremus: https://shope.ee/8KQv7Xzjqk

A Popular Catholic Manual on Liberation & Exorcism / Tagalog (Vol. 1 & 2): https://shope.ee/8zgbv4TSTO

Catholic Handbook of Deliverance Prayers by Fr. Jose Francisco C. Syquia: https://s.shopee.ph/7VEPxLbYMX

National Shrine of Our Lady of La Naval de Manila (Santo Domingo Church):

https://www.facebook.com/lanavaldemanilaofficialpage

Basilica of Our Lady of Manaoag:

https://manaoagminorbasilica.org

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Father, komero kang isang demon begin na full public warning sa maka batan ano poyun father.

SPEAKER_09 0:07

I mahi rapyan Maramisila. Maramisila Um If you're talking about the youth, uh uh the most active demon now is Asmodeus. Lust. The demon of violent lust. Violent lust. Violent lust. Rape. Ahina. It's not only lust, lust, but it's violent lust. Meaning aggressive. Aggressive. And when you look at it from a certain perspective, you you just open your your internet, your social media.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 0:52

We were expelling from a lady a demon. And then suddenly out of the blue, possessing annoyung bata. In a very womanly, feminine voice, very gentle. Habing spirited. Mang anak. Bait nyu ku pina Alies. Paramakatu lung sa mga. Oh bakit nyu ku pinaalis. I was a neophyte then.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Fully dismissed the po yung perjury case nyo. Nang Court of Appeals ng 2026 at offending religious feelings case ng 2025. So wa no pa yung pina kamala king spiritual lesson nana totu nan nya dito father.

SPEAKER_09 1:44

Some Ministry of Spiritual Liberation and Exorcism. Merung four principles kami. Na si nasabi na misa tao. Muno kase pa g yun tao sha i really oppress by evil spirits. Oppress, possess, obsess, uh na evil spirits. Sindi sha talaga na kaka pa e sit naghus doen. Na iira pan sha. Pero merung ka ming principlasabi sa kanya. And uh and eventually this will also apply to our own personal understanding. So yung first principle is How about yung mga na nangal father? Yung yung ang theory sa ano sa mungga um ancient books. These are high-powered witches. So they are not really demons, but they are yung high-powered witches. Uh whether that is true, na gan on na ha hatinila katawanila is something, it can be an illusion. It can be an illusion for one thing. Dailung other cultures have also this kind of creatures. So it seems that in our mythology, uh in our folklore, Philippines, amang genyang witches, nahati katawan, mg aswang. Pero in other cultures, merun silang flying kame nagdito nag groundbreaking groundbreaking and everything. So halanamin direction, hindi ba na anpa yun nant talapa, may mga problem pasa permits, etc, etc. Yung architect, yung mga yung anun ng attaugdito. Ng ng architect ng kakasaket, ng matulito no, yung maraming obstacle ng encounter yung architect, maraming obstacle encounter. So, even that even those who were who are in the periphery diba anyone who is involved in the project, whether they are be they be in in the fundraising part, or whether they be in the planning part or in the permit part, you may be father? Amen of the father, of the son, of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Remember, O Most Gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known, that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, we fly unto you, O Virgin of Virgins, our mother. To you do we come, before you do we stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word incarnate, despise not our petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer us. Amen. Dein that we may praise you, O sacred virgin, give us strength against your enemies. Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the wicked spirits who prowl throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. Angel of God, my guardian dear, to whom God's love commits me here. Ever this day be at my sight, to light and guard, to rule and guide. Amen. Saint Joseph, pray for us. Saint Dominic, pray for us. Pray for us in the name of the Father, Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Amen. So welcome po again for the second time, Father Winston, Ferdinand Roman F. Kabading OP.

SPEAKER_08 5:26

Thank you, Adrian. Thank you. I'm happy to be with you again.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

Thank you, Father. And thank you, Pasa Pag Papa.

SPEAKER_09 5:36

Yes, office ng office ng shrine of the rector of the National Shrine of Our Lady of the Holy Rosary. Lanaval de Manila.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

Yeah, because you're the current rector. Yes, I'm the current rector.

SPEAKER_09 5:48

And prior of the Dominicans here in Santo Domingo.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

Yeah. And also current uh exorcists ng Archdiocese of Manila. Yes. And also Dominican Freeze.

SPEAKER_08 6:00

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

Here's a debob. Current kaparen sa Archdiocese of Manila be ng exorcist, Father. Boga peri m explain.

SPEAKER_09 6:12

Well, there is already an exorcism office in the diocese of Kubao. Led by Father Jojo Serudo. And then he has an assistant exorcist also at Dominican, Father Mandy Malihan. So okay on parasakanila. Yeah. So uh kung if they ask our help from Amo, we we assist them langin na manga. Yeah. So there's no need for me to accept uh another faculty to perform or to be an exorcist in Kesuan City.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Yeah. Kesun City.

SPEAKER_09 6:56

So we refer them to the exorcist of Kasun City. To be processed. So Merun namandito na si father man di Malihan. So I refer the cases to him. And then Bahala na sila sa exorcist in the ministry office of the diocese of Kobao to process the the case. Well, I give them advice. Now if they really want a pray over or then I will refer them to Manila. And Manila will be the one to process them. So I do na I I can interview, I can uh talk to them, pero all the decision making is done in the office of exorcism of the archdice of Manila. Pag angustunila, manila.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

I see. Kase pag exorcism talagang isakata lagasa bongaso sa otap ng na Philip. N'dina manang uh OG, Father. Thank you again, Father. And thank you. Sa mga marami po naka na kila la se nyo na isang official na exorcist. Sama hindi papu na rinigyung story mo, apanokangabang simula, bakapedi mung uh isher sa n yang father.

SPEAKER_09 8:07

Oh, that is very interesting. Okay, so always some uh willing to share. So, really, this is not part of my uh plan as a Dominican, right? So Basa, what happened is when I was teaching in UST, they offered me the teach to teach the course on Christian anthropology. And part of the syllabus of that subject is teaching on angels and demons, an geology and demonology. And you are talking here about during 2009 thereabouts, and honestly, just like many uh priests and seminarians of the past years, even up to now, many seminaries do not offer a subject on angiology and demonology. And for me, I took that as an opportunity para turu yung subject eventually in the Faculty of Sacred Theology of USD. And gusu kumala ma kong yung it's in line with what is being taught in Rome. And kong sang ayon bayon. Kasi na babasa kuna yung about the exercise in the ministry of Father Gabriel Amor. So nakiki tako yung uh practicality nung subject in relation to the ministry of Father Gabriel Amort. Right. So it took me a while before I was able to go to Rome 2013, 2013, so 2008 simulang magduro. So everything that I know about angeology and demonology came only from books that I read, from papers, articles, and everything. And then when I had the chance to go to Rome to attend a course there, one week course, I met Father Jose Sikia there. So I met Father Joseph and they were also attending that seminar in Regina Apostolorum related to the Ministry of Spiritual Liberation and Exorcism. And then pakbaliku sa Pilippinas, so that was May, Pakbaliko sa Pilippinas, September, if I'm not mistaken, of 2013. Pinun tao office, Roma, kung hindi kumpa practice, at kung hindi kum makikita, in reality, pa anunang yeari yung exorcism. Uh-huh. Kuma ya waku. Because that was not my idea. Purely academic. Pero I omalisti Father Joseph's opisi na hwe. So eventually I said if the church sees that I can be of service, okay. I will I will say yes. And sinabikun mista superior ko, puma aig nama y superior ko. And then that was it. That was October 24, if I'm not mistaken, October 24, nakatang ga pa hunang from the Archdishop Manila of the appointment. Appointment as assistant exorcist under Father Joseph Sikia. Wow yung involvement ko ministry, and I was under Father Joseph's, being mentored by him, exposed to cases, uh taught uh how to do the ministry, the skills needed, until dumating yung time na nakita nya sigoro naho. So isina bak nya naho. Magisa, ikang na gena, ikauna maglida. So that was how it all started. So 2013, 2023, 10 years nah. So plus uh another three years. So 13 years na. 13 years na kum sa ministry of spiritual liberation and exorcism.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

Kasi di bakoman, papa dalani sa ng R Kamsa Rome. Kumbaga ikao, talagang binolun termisa rikonom.

SPEAKER_09 12:39

Binoliko at ang sponsor kobas the University of Santo Tomas. Kasi intended for my teaching in the Faculty of Sacred Theology.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

Pero aware kasi Father Jose sang current. Ng time nayo.

SPEAKER_09 12:53

Oh, kasi na invite kunasha a few times in UST to give a talk, for example, in my class. So kaya na mit kunasha. Pero yung nung nagmit ka me ulit sarum for for that seminar. I think that was already his second, if that second, third time yana sarom for for that kind of seminar. So in expect nya yung upgrading, updating, etc. So yun kan yang yunga nyang storya. You know, on my part, first time kulang yung, and I was um I was taking note of how they are teaching the subject of angeology and demonology in an in a ecclesiastical academic setting.

SPEAKER_07 13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 13:45

So talk saakin, anulang purely academic lang and dahirang ho, paramaintin dyangko, kun yu itinu turu ko I think satinu turu nila sarum. So nakita kong, yes, yuna ngginaga mit kung material para magturu. So pagating sa usd, turu ta lagelang, tapos um along the way, yando matingasi Father Joseph Spinotana osa opisina para convincing to put into practice what I've learned para pagnagi lectura ho yung sina sabiko sa studante, hindi lang galing sa libruho, kundi galing din sasalibikong experience. Which proved to be very, very, very helpful.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 14:32

And until now, talagang uh, in fact, sabikung anoe, pag ng to turu ka say I took I teach other subjects in the university, pero pagang pinagusa pa na namin angels and demons, gising la gye mabala. Very anusila, very engaged. So talagang gising sila sa subject na yung. Kata tapus lang namin last Friday yung chapter na min on angels and demons and pina kitaang ku sila ng isang movie ng exorcism and Shepherd sila Nefarius. Oh Nefarius. Nefarius is a at least no? Nefarius is a good movie to understand the demonic mind. Right. So it's not a horror movie the way you understand horror movies. This one is really just a simple scene, sa jail cell, jail cell, and a usa between a person that claims to be possessed by a demon uh called Nefario and and the psychiatrist. Na it is. Oh na 80s. So yung demonic mind. So ru ko yung mung qualities, ng knowledge, ng angels and demons, ng pinakita ku yung video na yon. Parang, alamoy ng. So ng. Parang naba valid date, no? Kite movie lang sha naba valid date yung itilutu rumo that this is how it looks like in the real world.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

And this is na projusmo father, or is he father Raven Garcia?

SPEAKER_09 16:12

Oh, nag na na interview mung as a men too. Raven was my student uh a few years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Nayasha in a point na dahil sina mamush.

SPEAKER_09 16:25

Oh, interested yung bata. Interested. Join ka par makita mwa. Like then eventually from pampanga. There's another priest from Pampanga, na yung chief exorcist nina si Karty, yeah. Uh yung den. Genan dinyun yunaman, uh tinulung ko sa crafting ng kan yang thesis, ng MA thesis. So it's more on the academic side again.

SPEAKER_12 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 16:58

See, Raven is interested yung an yung subject. So interested says angels and demons, and then eventually how it can be applied to real parish work or real pastoral work. Yeah, it's not a good thing. And I don't I don't tell them mag exorcism. And they kuse it's up to them and how they see themselves in the ministry of the church and uh well in divine providence, yeah. Hopefully it helped them in their priestly life.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Yeah, and yung napa not ko yung case on kusha, grabi ma kris na waka nya, ma high ranking father. Oh.

SPEAKER_09 18:07

And I hope that they're able to you know uh learn from the conferences that we give in UST and at the same time saw personal ministry experiences and whatever resources that they are able to go and and read or consult.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Here's how Father Ydibayung sa ABS event na possession.

SPEAKER_09 18:40

Well um they ask, I think uh if I'm not mistaken, they asked the Archdiscip Office of Exorcism if they can interview the Exorcist. And uh Father Joseph gives uh names or guidelines for that purpose to them and pag na kontak nila, they will ask okay po batong resource person. Then Father Joseph says okay, man se la mature na yung ka ni na pana nao. Yeah and and then that that's how things um develop from there.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Recent episode ma parang bagung mu exorcism yung maabata ganon.

SPEAKER_09 19:25

Main yung yung unang unang uh interview nila from uh the diocese of Balanga Bataan. Yeah. See Father Jersey proposal, bata pa sha talaga. Stujanti ko dinyon, Stujanti ko din sha Immaculate Conception Major Seminary in Bulaka. Atanagin thesis nyana man, I also connected to that me to the ministry. Pero itunamany ma super, if I'm not mistaken, ma superstitious beliefs in the diocese of Balanga. So from there, Dahil Merun na sheng, I suppose the bishop na merun shang alam inapointya as the exorcist. Pero learning palang, learning pal lang sha e kaya bagito in uh in other words. But they will they will mature in due time.

SPEAKER_10 20:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 20:18

The more cases you have, the more you mature and understand oninpina ana na mgata o bagsila a harasa evil spirit. It's really more con you're really more concerned, not on the devil. Hindi babil dune, and b the don la gi and jos. God is always the hero. Amen. And his love for the afflicted. Right. On how they invited the evil spirit in their life. Whether they're aware of it or not, they have invited the evil spirit in their life, gave power to the evil spirit to do something in their life, and then harass. So eventually they get harassed. So yunang anamo yunang focus mwe. So really, when you ask, anapu bai focus nag mini spiritual liberation exorcism, it's really applying the love of God on the life of the person. So the devil there is uh minor character.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

No, minor characteraga. Oh.

SPEAKER_09 21:41

Power of the evil one. Kasi, mashadang na wa la yung real focus natin. Nang focus natin supposed to be is on the Lord. Amen. On God. His love, his tender mercy. Yung evil spirit, I. Angulang, I can say Mason pagnagbay ma show yun lagging Bida. Bida y no pino fohuse yungga la luna pagmaga halunin. Kustunila lag. Kayama ta'o tuloy. Lugging kina ta kota. Hangfi angon ni nila. Na pag nakakita na sila na extraordinary manifestations. Yung fate ni la sa pang y nogdios. Piglang mgdu dwindel. Right. Mm. Maharas.

SPEAKER_12 22:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 22:36

Panda ngpalataya. Sakabuti han nangdios.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

E na kata wa father kasidi ba parang na yon na gigi open ng public. And even sa mainstream, like napadot kung a yung sa St. Binalita is a St. Michael Center. Ni wa na pakaganda nan no? Uh. Anoba yung but purpose ng center na to father.

SPEAKER_09 22:56

Well, um as the new subset, it's really intended to be the center where the people of God, especially from pa from the Archdisces of Manila, can seek help, no? From the church. So merun nang reference point. May reference point na. Na para m hospital, no. Alam me hospital jan sa lugar mo. Pag me ng yare. May popunta ka. So dito sa archis of Manila, the cardinals or the archbishops of Manila in the past, so na kailangan tung lugar naganto para maypopuntana mata okay. So, alam nila konsan sila popunta hindi sila magalbulari. Oh, magalbulari, patle patlang konsaro, alam nila ma sila. Pero again, um because it is a you know, the way we do the ministry now is not the way probably we think in the past na pagmay sinapi and dalin mujan gagu. Indeed, you are now looking at it from the perspective of a professionally done ministry. In other words, meron ma protocols, merung merung kanang mangasinu sunud na guidelines para Hindi masayang orasmo, hindi masayang orasun tao at hindi ka mgamali in your diagnosis. So laging merung ganyanna Merun nashyang parang kumba gas hospital you already have tests. You have before you operate on someone, you undergo test interviews. Parama determine kung merun talagang probable cause. Or uh na there is a pre the presence of something that is extraordinary. Balita kun kiung piagda nan nung center balak ki no na hindi mwa ntindian sanangaling. Just like when quentwa natin kanina, we were trying to invite a particular uh world-renowned exorcist who said yes uh three times, but in those three times balakit, bakit, bakit, bakit.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Right.

SPEAKER_09 25:26

So I suppose by hindsight, this is abini Lord, have faith in me. Amen. Balakit, no, obstacles. And if other just we need to pray more. So we prayed more. Intention, and eventually after seven years. I think seven years, if I'm not mistaken, yung from the time it was conceptualized to the time na Luma Basya took took um at least seven years. Wow. I remember Anupae, um there was already a plan, no, so see Cardinal Tagle pa'ang uh Archbishop of Manila there, and the go signal came from him. And then per walang mashad ng yare the corona transition from Cardinal Tagle to the apostolic uh administrator, so Bishop Pabilio. Bishop Pabilio said, Go in muna yang Joseph, go in muna, and Father Joseph's moved. Bishop Pabilio as apostolic administrator, dumating si uh Archbishop Jose. And na kamin nag Taudito na groundbreaking na groundbreaking and everything. So khala na min direct directala pa may mga problem pa sa permits, etcetera etcetera. Yung architect, yung mga yung anun ng taugdito ng ng architect ng kakasakitulito lo, yung. Mara ming obstacle ng encounter yung architect, maraming obstacle. So even that, even those who were who are in the periphery diba anyone who is involved in the project, whether they are be they be in in the fundraising part, or whether they be in the planning part or in the permit part, yon. Wow. Kaya took that time. But now it's here. So an ug so be sa amin ni Lord. So Father Joe said I pao. Anungusa being saw, meratang center. Anu nangayon. Amen. Ang susunud munggyayade. So you really wait for the Lord to show you. No? You just have to really trust that he knows what he is doing in his own time.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

Here's the na ko kase maramikang yung bakarong sa Eastern Fathers. Anu mg la totuna muse kanila pagating sa exorcism.

SPEAKER_09 28:20

Um okay. So when we made the book, when I made the book or compiled the Catholic handbook of prayers for spiritual liberation and exorcism with redactors' notes. Coming from my own experience, as Father Joseph was teaching me, angun lang kamita laga na canonical book was the Roman ritual of exorcism. I cases of possession. Merunga mima ibang nakikita cases like curses, chakras, uh possessions coming from that, third eye, etcetera, which are not tackled in the Roman ritual. Understandably, in the it attacked a yung ma case is not all like the chakras, or third eye are all eastern uh inspired, no? Not only Eastern Christianity, but eastern like here in Asia itself, from India, etcetera. So I'm yung meeting prayers for that. So what happened there was um I was tasked by Father Joseph and by my own interest to look into the experience of the early church, especially the Eastern Church, Eastern Fathers, how they dealt with cases that had to do with paganism with pagan gods. Very strong stories related to witchcraft, so with black magic, etcetera. In fact, for example, during the time of Emperor Justinian, uh in the year in the 6th century, any witchakuan within the Byzantine Kingdom or Byzantine Empire are to be imprisoned and uh and executed. Because witchcraft is a big uh a big uh crime.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 30:34

So, uh on the part of the church, how did they deal with these things? So nag research, so nakakita prayers of the fathers and the eastern churches connected with this with with um with exorcism and spiritual liberation, commonly matatang pu'an saw mga compilation of prayers, Catholic prayers for spiritual liberation on the side of the Catholic Church in the West. And eventually, uh even though you have the prayers, ng gina wanna namin ni Father Joseph, pina testing namin beta tests, pina beta test namin samang exorcists, like Father Daniel Estascio, Father Nonet Legaspi, Father Jojo Serudo. When I made the compilation of the prayers, I gave copies to them. Photocopi patosabko uh it test prayers, no? If it works. And uh and true and sila, makjusura sila ng email or magte text sila or ginami kung prayer naganto on in this case, the Lord graced it with uh and and put his stamp on it na effective so we took note of those kind of prayers, uh, and of course um we also modified based on their experiences, modified certain words in order to make it uh appropriate for the k for the need what is needed, and you know, until we were able to come up with uh the compilation and had it published. When it is about food or drink, so the curse was introduced into the body through food or drink. Yung original Eastern prayer commanded the evil spirit that is in the food or drink to come out from behind, no? From behind, so to be expelled from behind. And uh so in experiment Father Joe says beta testing ya, bineta test nya. Hey, but it's not a good thing. No, it's not a pa ngwang CR. Can you change back? Can you change the formula or change the command? Oh, you can, you can, as as what is D did. So in Bisna from behind, from the mouth. So to be expelled from the visceral organs to the mouth. Yeah. So gina wako na yon. Testing muna. So tines nya, ka lang kama lisi Father Jose's. From to be expelled from behind, ni retain ko, dun sa prayer. Okay. Tapos yung yung yung alternative conclusion is in the footnote. As there is instead of this, the default itoga me. Pagn dada sal ka na minsa. Hindi muna na babasa yung alternative. So unang kuany unun nakita nya. Yunang inilagay nya. So gana na man expelled from behind the na man. So sabi nya akala kba bina gun na go unung binagukuna. Iba ki yung painin expelled from behind. Sabi ku yun yun default. A yo kung baguinya. Kasi yung default. So nakita mo hom me ng ask the risk. So yunang baba sahin mosin sabiya go win mung, yunang yung ano yung expelled from the mouth, yungga win mung default. Yun ng go win mung uh alternative. Okay. So gina wako yun. So big, big na wanya yon, tapos when he did the prayer again, yun ngunga, yung dun lumalbas yung throw up, na dunga ngto throw up. So effective na shaga non. So when we publish the book finally, made it final, yung to be expelled from the mouth, yun na yung default na luma bas rather than the original one. Yeah. Other exorcists, ngin ng ginamit dinila yon pag mga cases ng mgayuma, cases ng mga uh na na anun na na nung na na ka take ng food na curse curse, curse food or drink, yunung gina mit nila. F for them effective. Effective that the Lord has graced the prayer that we made. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

I'n to nin tawang ako na tawa.

SPEAKER_09 36:05

And it's very interesting. So you get to understand that um you depend on the Lord and you have to ask him what is the grace that you need. So if the grace that you're you're telling the Lord, Lord, expel it from the mouth, that is how he answers the prayer. That he has answered your petition, right? Right. So nayon. So we we discovered what we call now the principle of uh intentionality when it comes to exorcism prayers. You have to tell the Lord exactly what you need.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Wow. Oh, even in pra in our in our prayer, they all even in our prayer, telling exactly what you need, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 36:54

So that you will understand when you you uh when he answers, whether he has answered your prayer the way you are asking for it, or or not. So I experienced most of the prayers now in the that Catholic handbook of prayers, uh the black one blue nay and blue, maybe yung black father joses. Oh, for that priest. Okay. It's really for the priests to help them in their ministry. Para, kasi date damitami kundale, may Roman ritual, may Libroni Father Joseph, Chadri Purger, Merun yung uh other books. So, pak samea, ito, ito, ito, and dami dami mundala, no dami damion, san librun dalamo. Wow and then you know what to use, what we say, the battle plan. You prepare what prayers you are going to use, what page, uh, what area, so na kam na ka mark na yon, ka pang ng pa plan nu kama exorcis. Pano opana natin result what kind of prayers are we going to to say? Uh, page kanto, page kin to we will do this. So meroka nang pa ng anamib template battle plan. So with one book, madalisha, rather than several books, and you can exp you cannot expect to teach uh other exorcists to get all the books. So you just get have one one book. One book, and then and then that is where you get uh all, if not all, most of the prayers that you will need. Later on, uh as we said, we we would hope that exorcists coming from other provinces and even other countries would translate the book itself so that it will be useful for them. Yeah, not all Filipinos can uh speak in English, prayer in English, adept to it, right? So must probably gusunila to their own to speak either in Filipino, like Tagalog or another language. So you exorcist coming from the Visayas, for example, or coming up north, ngtata translate nanila ima prayers for their own, especially those prayers that the afflicted need to say. So the the exorcist or the priests can say the prayers as they are in the book, whether that be in Latin and in English, and then but the faithful sakanilangsa prayers, they can use the ones in their language Masma Dali Sakanya. So there are now uh office of exorcisms like the ones from Dipolog who translated the prayers into into Visayan. So very nice, very nice, especially the ones that are going to use, and of course, Father Jojo Mendoza, Joseph Mendoza of Lipa Lipa, and Father Noneth Legaspi, um each translated some of the prayers in Filipino, in Tagalog. So they published it, no, uh Father Noneth Legaspi.

SPEAKER_07 40:44

The the book yung bayon yung librilang nikfin published?

SPEAKER_09 40:47

Oh, yung the Father Nonet, two volumes published in Filipino, and then also Father Joseph Mendoza of Flippa also published his own booklets related to the ministry, and which proved to be very useful for the people. And readily available in the Catholic bookstores. So you know yung yon. That is particular for Saint Cyprian of Nicomedia.

SPEAKER_04 41:36

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_09 41:37

So Saint Cyprian of Nicomedia used to be a very powerful wizard in Nikomedia. So he's a pagan wizard and ki na tata kutan sha. So na karoansha ng isang uh love interest na mong ha na gusun yang makuha. So gusun yang gayumahin. So pinda lanya ng ng gifts yung monatangap nung nung nan, pero pakbine bless no nung nan yung yung whatever was given food, drink, gifts. Wow. And you know uh Cyprian uh was thinking, what kind of magic is this? Kind of magic. So ng very strong uh cursed objects, and curses not some other. But all of that bounced back, and because of that, he was converted. He realized that whoever whatever God this this nun was worshipping is more powerful than his own. And he got converted. When he got converted, Cyprian became a priest eventually, became a priest, became a bishop, then eventually he was martyred. But in his according to the story, he wrote an exorcism prayer to counter out all the techniques of warlocks and uh wizards and witches. Wow. So yun yung prayer nayon, yun yung recovery na min yung prayer nayon, the prayer of Saint Cyprian of Nicomedia against witchcraft and black magic. So two types of prayers. So yung ginagamit namin yon pag and cases encounter have to do with witchcraft or with black magic. And God has proven that it works. No, it works. And Saint Cyprian uh enlisted that in the prayer on how this is done, and During the exorcism, if the person reacts to that particular portion of the prayer on how it is done, dunami na pi pinpoint, ah, gatongina, so na identify. So the craft, witchcraft, craft did not really change that much through the millennia. Ganung parin ng gina gamit.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Oh, advanced.

SPEAKER_09 44:28

So being yung yung karunung item it talagina transfer ni la. So on yungit nila before gina gamit karin na yon. So on the part on the part of the church, these prayers are very helpful.

SPEAKER_12 44:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 44:45

Because it makes you understand how the evil is introduced into the life of the person and how by the grace of God this is to be expelled. Right. And this is to be exercised and to be cured.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

Wow, thank you for that insight, Father. Na pakagandan. And fully dismissed the po yung perjury case nyo. Nang Court of Appeals ng 2026. At offending religious feelings case ng 2025. So wa no po yung pina kamala king spiritual lesson.

SPEAKER_09 45:18

Some ministry of spiritual liberation and exorcism. Merung four principles kami. Na sin sabi na mi sa ta'o. Muno kase pa gyun ta'o sha i really oppress by evil spirits. Oppress, possess, obsess, uh na evil spirits. Na iira pancha. Pero mergaming principle na sinasabi sa kanya la gi. And uh and eventually this will also apply to our own personal understanding. So yung first principle is Jesus is Lord. So Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord, Jesus. So if God is totally sovereign, Jesus is total sovereign. Amen. So everything that happens, even in the hand, you have to trust Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 46:14

Jesus is Lord. So every He is total sovereign of everything. Nothing escapes him. So number one. The second principle is stay in the boat of Peter. So a bit peace of being stay in the boat of Peter. Amen. Stay in the boat of the church. Well, stay in the bark of Peter. Remain obedient to the church. Okay. So that's that's the the second. The third principle is Jesus loves his church. So Jesus loves his church. Why? Because Jesus founded his church. Jesus founded his church on the profession of faith of Saint Peter. So upon this rock, I will build my church. So stay there. So when you understand that God loves or Jesus loves his church, ministers of the church. And then the fourth one is Jesus loves you. Amen. So Jesus loves you. So you have to. You always have to stay faithful to the church. Obedient to the church. Lagging kaitin mind obedient. And therefore, those four principles apply sasaliko. Jesus is Lord. Jesus is a case nato, stay in the boat of the church. I remain to be obedient. Obedient to the magisterium of the church, the teachings of the church, clearly. Clearly. Amen. And you're going to be in a kamalian simban. Stay there. Okay. The third is, of course, understanding that Jesus loves his church very much. So the church will be vindicated. Even at the end of time, the church will be vindicated. And the fourth is Jesus loves you. So we apply. And holding on to this reality and this truth made me, you know, a wade through this trying instances or times in my life as a priest and as a Dominican. So and dakitamo, it it proved to be in a way correct through. Yes. But then you just entrust everything to the Lord. Lord, bahala kana jan. On the level of the church, ituna nibasmoy, nibas muna la hate, or on the level of the courts, ni la basmuna len. So just entrust everything to the Lord. Magaka tuluka. Naka katuluka nan tahimi, indika worry. Amen. Indika warid. Amen.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

Father, kasa belangsa personal life, but ma applied dinami nyasa naamin pinagdada.

SPEAKER_09 50:05

You see four four principles. Uh uh Jesus is Lord. Uh stay in the boat. Right. Jesus loves his church. Jesus loves you. Amen. So as long as you remain in him, he remains in you. You remain in his church. He loves his church, he loves you. Claro. So you are at peace. And of course, it's Easter, and the greeting of the Lord always is peace be with you.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

Yes. So thank you, Lord, for the Father. And panangaka pekto ang exorcist in ministries, a prayer life at mental health.

SPEAKER_09 50:44

Okay. Every case is different. My similarity is a unique difference. So the evil one enters into a person's life based on the kind of negativities that they have. And negativities are infectious. And therefore, because of those negativities, may effect. If you are a psychiatrist or psychologist, and daily you encounter cases of persons that are sick in mind, may effect effects. Baptize, hear confessions, counsel people, celebrate weddings, anoint people who are sick. Be a regular priest, right? Because that is what you are called to be. How did this person ever enter into such quadmire? So alam yunang alam yung kumbag alamuna delicado baket mm ka pina. So this negativity is really very strong. You have to maintain your sanity, your mental health, spiritual health by the helps that is provided to you both by science, clear psychology and clear Catholic spirituality. Even Father Joseph, he's the chief exorcist of the Archdiocese. But he also does other ministers, he gives retreats, recollections, hears confessions, counseling, teaching he teaches. One of the early devotions in the Philippines was the devotion to Our Lady of the Holy Rosary. So yung one of the early introductions of during our evangelization. And it so happened that the event of the invasion of the Dutch in the Philippines during the Spanish period, the Our Lady of the Rosary played a prominent role in the saving of the faith in the Philippines. And her patronage was in the context of a naval battle. So Dahildon, to the patronage of Our Lady of the Rosary, Spanish Filipino Armada. And that preserved the Catholic faith in the Philippines. So pagining nan musha from that perspective, you know. Every Marian devotion has its particular setting. Our Lady of Lures, Our Lady of Fatima, Our Lady of Perpetual Help, Our Lady of Peace and Good Voyage. It's all the Blessed Mother, but particular context. So Dito, it's all about preserving the Catholic faith that was in danger of being destroyed by an invading non-Catholic armed force. So our Lady of Lenaval in history is credited of preserving the Catholic faith in the Philippines in the early years of Christianity in the country.

SPEAKER_03 57:11

Lady of La Naval?

SPEAKER_09 57:12

Oh yes. Our Lady of the Rosary of La Naval. So merun yang para aguas salob. So pan pinapalita nan damit nya merun yung damit nyang yang yung external clothes nya merung pang panlobyan. Kungagamitin's just a ladies' terms para happy sleep. Happ sleep. So yung half sleep na yon. It touches really the image of our blessed ladies. And therefore, and yung gina ginang namin yun sa ministry. Ag yung person, I alam nami magiging violent. Bina balut namin nung slip mahal de bir hen. And it proved to be very, very helpful and powerful in preventing the escalation of the violence. Wow. Yeah. Meron dinyangame, merong dinyung Our Lady of Manawag. So Our Lady of the Holy Rosary of Manawag in Pangasinan. Para hung Lady of the Rosary under the Dominicans. So ginam yunung una konakaraon. Same effect. So pagmerung ng merung mag levitate. So it proved to be very helpful for the ministry.

SPEAKER_10 58:45

For us, no, for us.

SPEAKER_09 58:48

So yeah. We attribute it to the intercession of our blessed mother.

SPEAKER_03 58:54

Yeah. Speak of tama no 100 years. Yes, of coronation. Coronation adversarial.

SPEAKER_09 59:00

Yes, the pontifical coronation this April 22.

SPEAKER_03 59:04

Yes. Oh, it's uh in Lex. Yes.

SPEAKER_09 59:09

Yeah. Yung Billboard. Our brothers here in Santo Domingo will be, and the fathers will all go there to join the Dominican Fathers in Manawag for this grand celebration.

SPEAKER_10 59:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 59:28

So my father, unfortunately, kasi Saturday, and 22. May Misa meano sendip ka pedi ma wala iwan. One of those. To represent the community.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

So it it will so it will be big, talaga celebration.

SPEAKER_09 59:51

Because 100 years of the anniversary of the papal coronation, so pontifical coronation. So yeah. There will be we're expecting, of course, they're expecting over a million people to come. Million. Million, one million. So Manawa Church. The way I see it is well, people will be coming, come and go. In the period of this celebration, for the one week celebration, people will be coming and going. Right, right. So in the punta, pero they're expecting for the whole celebration about a million. About a million people. Nice. Yeah. Blessed Mother of Our Lady of the Rosary of Manawa.

unknown 1:00:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:58

Bless Dito ng cars. Provisional blessing and tawagnila. Provisional back. Kasifu mana wa bless pa di la do. Along the way, pa makta travel na sabin father pa bless. So prayer blessing na ni la laginamin. Uh to the intercession of the blessed Virgin Mary, our Lady of the Holy Rosary of La Navalde Manila. Wow. Parama Blessed Virgin intercession blessed Virgin Mary. Our Lady of the Holy Rosary. Our Lady of the Holy Rosary of Manawag na manyon. So very particular for that area. La Navaldemanila.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

Wow. Father Itawa isang order of preachers. So panang yunilalabanan sa preaching and intellectual formation ang demonio la basama fake news.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:53

Yes. Well, one of the great uh motos of the Dominicans is Veritas, the truth. The truth. And that truth is first and foremost the truth of God and then the truth of Jesus Christ and the truth of the church. So pak dating sa Ganyan itu yung anumo, itu yung itun yung parang th mo focus mo pangang aal nan katotohanan about the truth. Hindi na sha matalin na yon, no? Hindi sha madalin na yon dahail uh with the advent of or the existence of social media an AI ando yung deception is is so rampant uh and it comes from different parties. You may have agenda. Right. So you're not talking here about objective truth but inventing something to advance your agenda and a non-discriminating person and without the grace of the Holy Spirit, malolo ho. During the time of Saint Dominic, the albigantian heretics were able to recruit a lot of people because they were very convincing. And Saint Dominic really wondered how the church can survive this because very effective yung manga albens, very effective sila sa paikikita nila, saanina pomo muhai, simple life, the things that they say. But then, as I said, the the the church, you know, uh stay in the bark of Peter, Saint Dominic and also Saint Francis stayed within that boat, no, the boat of Saint Peter of Saint Peter. See, Saint Dominic went to Rome to to receive approval from Innocent the Third at that time, and then eventually Pope Honorius. And Saint Francis of Assisi also sought approval of the church for his order and for his mission. So together they were the strong pillars to combat these heresies during their time, no?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:35

And St. Francis.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:50

So para saanya para magtive and preaching nakikita, na you're willing to be a very simple person, poor in order to manifest the truth of Jesus Christ and his church. See Saint Dominic, saya, number one, yung clarity of thinking. Khailangan claro yung pay sip mo and then that clarity of thinking is also graced by the Holy Spirit and it has to be made manifest by the simplicity of your life. So merending aspect of uh poverty in the life of Saint Dominic, pero must intense yung understanding the Saint Francis about the necessity of evangelical poverty in the way you present yourself in order to convert the people. Dahil, even the albigen also follow that kind of manifestation of being simple. Preachers nila, preach like a poor person. So yuna kikita nila na ganung mga manga nga ral. So Saint Francis, this is the jubilee of year of Saint Francis. So Saint Francis, paran to counteract that. Kailangan yung followers nya ipakita of the of the power of the gospel that it can be lived. It can be really lived in in its simplicity through the way of life of the friar minor. Contribution sa sa simbahan during the time of the albigentians. See Saint Dominic nama yung intellectual clarity. And of course, not only intellectual, but also the preaching ministry. And the preaching ministry, n yung intellectual formation mo eh sharp.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:08

Malali.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:13

Early convents of the Dominicans were always near universities. Kasi nasa universities yung anga utake. Yungang uta. Indika pedi mga ral ng mang mang. So khailangan malina wang pagi isip mo. Kasi otherwise. Pag naka paag uusap ka sai sang taon na tong pagi isip uhala kai pa tuton uhan, pero pagang ka us angha tungalimo malina, at malina u dinang anumo, medika yung magana, medika yung magusap N Claro to show kaya yung sori ni Saint Dominik on his dialogue with the innkeeper is an iconic um showing of the preaching of Saint Dominic that is both informed and loving. Amen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

Wow. And Father Toto, men sa sa binamaswala kas dawan dimon yung ayon kiesa date.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Why?

SPEAKER_09 1:08:20

Siguro pak dit ting na yon mei exorcis in ministry na, nate wala na mganyani, no. Bakit na yong the church is recognizing the need to institutionalize the ministry of spiritual liberation and exorcism. And in fact, by approving the International Association of Exorcists, it's showing this uh this ministry is now needed by the church. Ang Sabinang Sabinang report nang AIE's uh Holy Father last time was the increase in occult practices. So people in Christian countries are abandoning the Christian faith, they're becoming sophisticated, secular, whatever. But that emptiness leads them to seek for control of their lives for peace when they are troubled, and since they're far from God, they have rejected the Christian religion and its teachings, they go elsewhere in more like new age, like the new age, cult, etcetera. They go into this kind of non-religious, non non-binding rule type of spiritual life. So young words that are in that I'm spiritual, but not religious, but not religious. But really, they get the wrong uh meaning of what that is, right? Right. And when you say that the devil also says says that I am not religious, I'm spiritual. Um why? Because he's a spirit, he has no relationship with God. If you have to put it from a very important understanding, uh you come and obviously be ng religious, because sometimes people just speak about that and they just borrow the meaning of what that means somewhere. Naging cliche kasi. Right. Naging trite, yung yung use word I'm spiritual but not religious. Yes. And they think that religious means mung rituals, mg uh mg uh rules and everything. But that mean they miss the point, no? And when they when when we understand religion as coming from a very real Latin word religion to bind, to bind yourself, meaning it's really a relationship, no? So makaron kaibigan, you bind yourself to your friend, and there is a clear understanding between you and your friend, may not binding uh rules, protocols, no that you need to follow in order to preserve the friendship. Yes, my boundaries. Yes. So all. So religion, if taken that way, when you relate to God, my rules, yeah. Boyfriend, yeah, my scriptures, my how to relate to God properly. Amen. Yes. How to relate to God properly.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:28

Many of them are just simply ignorant about uh about the Christian life, spiritual life. So they always have that. But by doing so, they created a relationship, a religion with the evil spirit. Nag ally ng soot ng manga, ngagain ng ng evil eye protection, ng glagay na ng manga kung anung bracelet, akala nila mga ng glagaina tatuna, kung anuichura, akala nila anulang yune, expression of their freedom, etc. But that is a sign of a relationship, a religion, because you bind yourself to that to the demands of that relationship. Wow. So, well, if you think that in the Philippines now there are more than 200 mandated exorcists all over the country, and there are still dioceses that do not have exorcists, then you think, oh yeah, something is happening. Something is happening in the Philippines, something is happening in the world. So even in the most progressive country, in the first world countries, at a baket. I can see people are turning to the occult. People are turning to Satanism, people are turning to witchcraft in order to gain power. To gain power to control their lives. So, yeah, increase in activity because people now are opening their doors, not only their homes, uh, but also their very life to the influence of the evil one. And God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. Go throughout the world, proclaim the good news, cast out demons, heal the sick. So yunang, yun mandate, no? Or so yun yunang ano, yun ng uh to your question must nagi ging active, nagi ging active, I think because people have have abandoned the truth of our one true God and accepted a secular attitude of you can believe anything you want. Relativistic. You can believe anything you want. And uh if that works for you, then that's good. So yung yung real truth relegate to to the background and na wa walana. And of course, we know from the scriptures and from Catholic theology that the devil is the father of lies.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:13

Right. And Father, kume ro kang isang demon begin a full public warning sa maka bata na no poyen, father.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:21

I mahira pian marami sila. Maramisila. Um if you're talking about the youth, uh uh the most active demon now is Asmodeus. Lust. The demon of violent lust. Violent lust. Violent lust. Rape. Ah tang urina. It's not only lust, lust, but it's violent lust, meaning aggressive. Aggressive. And when you look at it from a certain perspective, you you just open your your internet, your social media.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:10

But there is always some kind of desire to seduce people. Right. Ng se seduce talagasina. Yung yung yung when when when things become libertine kapuamo sexual. This these things you put it in public for everyone to see and and claim uh I don't care about what you think. No uh this is my right. This is my body. This is my body, I can do anything you want. Yeah, that is precisely that is precisely it. And of course, in the in the context of exorcism, that is what we often see. As one of the components when a young person, when a young person is uh oppressed and harassed by the devil, I know, parang extracurricular activity that is not pleasing to the Lord. And they will deny it. They will deny it, but nakikita mo ki kitamo pag yung reactions of prayers, and therefore, when you talk about young people dealing with young people, you get to see it. And when you talk about young people, you're no longer just simply talking about teenagers. Sometimes the oppression goes even earlier. Earlier, why? Because niggas sexual trauma. Abuse. I suppose when you were young, uh when I was young, your access to adult uh adult magazines. You have to buy them and they're very expensive.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:20

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:23

Uh oh. BHS, we order can use it. BHS, you need money to get that. Everyone has access to it. Everyone has infinite data, only data. Yes. And therefore the internet is uh is there, it has positive, but it has also a lot of negative things, and therefore that disposition enters every area and every it cuts across society, whether that be uh young people, middle age, elderly, single, yes, married, uh clergy, uh, seminarians, religious, basame internet access.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:24

Right, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:25

So lahat na ape to han, na lat apek to han. Once upon a time I remember because I was director of the uh computer center in UST, yung yung bin abanta yang namin lagi yung ano yung access ng porn porn within the university babantay n must ano gino wa ng gino wa well na karu na proxy server para hindi ma paso. Pero na anyun no over override, no, me ngaka lusot, me naka lusot. Naka paso by using VPNs. Ta pos bumilika mina appliance, my appliance. Ng subscribe pa mina sang anon ng subscription para mero ng automatic nanag nanaga ba blacklist ng mga decides. Indeedin, na. So bisabi yen y anuna sha mdi na sha mga kontrol. So mga anuna la mg stop. Yun tao mismo. Ba gwanang disciplina yun tao. At yung kan yang moral compass. I Mejo no Hindi sinkasuki nat papasuhi nyyan. Uh Father Jose and I, Father Mon during the Father Eugene, during the time of the pandemic, we had uh we had deliverance prayers uh for the pandemic, especially at the height of the pandemic. Where the Pope Leo XIII prayer, and we were uh we were uh inviting the people to join us, the faithful, and but there were people really who who watched and prayed with us. And during the time of uh the deliverance prayer, Vadesata na Vadesata to repeat, may mg report ng text. Or suddenly big landalang yung kanilang internet and nakfa flap. Great nya. So what we did was we did a prayer before doing the broadcasting that the Lord through the intercession of at that time uh Blessed Carlo Kutis. Which became very helpful. Because I remember that time. Pornhub made access free. Yes, yes. Pornhub during the time of the day at the height of the of the ECQ and everything when the world was quiet, everybody was inside. Pornhub made their access free, and there were many people, and the Philippines was one of the highest accessors of number one access uh of that site. And discovered my parents for protection, their son is watching porn. So imagine you're using the internet and praying to the Lord to protect you from the disease, and you here you are, you have a a member of the family doing another thing, right? Watching watching porn. So the devil, you're saying you're you're you're telling the devil go away. Somebody's inviting him from the same household. So that's a very real story, and that is the reason why eventually we tone down the prayer. So instead of having a direct command, we now just beg the Lord to protect and deliver the family. And that stopped the shaking. That's how it is. Asmodeus, the demon of violent last, is one of the most active right now. One of the act very active. And then of course, the other one is connected with with uh uh spiritual pride because people think they don't need God, and uh therefore there's no eternal life, there is no eternal judgment, and even if they believe in God, God is merciful, they will be uh forgiven, they will be raptured. False mercy. Oh false mercy, and therefore delicado din yon, because the demon of pride is Lucifer, and so the devil is also at work, no? I am a raming, ma kikita muyan baitan damming arroganting.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:57

Damning road rage.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:58

Oh no, road rage, anger yunning anger is Satan. Anger is Satan. So everybody is Magaling. Everybody's magaling. Nobody is uh claiming to be a miserable sinner. Everybody is everybody's right. So you have this Abimunga.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:22

Nikita Natin yang in Father.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:24

Oh so whether it be local or international source, you find this. Well, is this is this the rise of the antichrist? There was an interview of Father Shadriperja, remind?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:44

And he said, when he said that the world is ripe for the rise of the Antichrist.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:57

Probably he's already here. The system is the system, the system is preparing for his rise. So and in in the in the mind of the church, the antichrist is a political leader and the false prophet is a religious leader. Meaning they will they will all present a solution to the problem. So probably political, economic, and the other one is you know, if religion is is uh is problematic, let us put another religion. Remember the in the 1970s there was this song from the Beatles Imagine if there's no heaven, or remember no religion, the same thing, no, the same thing. Uh Catholicism, Christianity, um this this system of morality and belief. Let us remove that and let us put a different kind of religion. What that would be, I really don't know. Perhaps uh witchcraft. People thinking that each of them is a god, I am a god, you are a god.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:13

So that is we're saying that now, father.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:19

Yeah, there are you can you can see that you can see that. Is it here now? Is it ripe? Or the stage is being prepared.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:29

Yeah. Parang alumim, bawut gaising mo ibay bay to the biggest. What is theapo sito mer ng? Wow.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:42

The arrogance is so obvious. And you wonder, no? Wonder why.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:59

You know?

SPEAKER_09 1:29:03

Uh oh. And what is what is surprising? The devil morphs. What do I mean by that? To some, the devil shows itself immediately as the devil. And it c it creates fear, and by creating fear, it also may create repentance. So a conversion of heart. But sometimes we also seen that magma morpheung evil spirit and will present itself as a good spirit. But it's the same spirit. So it will appear to be an angel of light. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. So nahikita na min y mayg maganyan. Na lagging parang magmomorphia para pagnatakotka. And therefore, in that case, people will not be prudent or discerning. They will accept the demon that turned into an angel of light as from God.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:44

They will just accept that. They will just accept it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:48

They will just accept it. And I'm sure that you have heard that being said by the many interviews that you had with exorcists.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:55

Actually, that is the exact word yung. Uh-huh. Ni father reperger.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:10

So discern. Kasi Indika na nasana isa discernment. What you see is what you get. Kasi kan nya nyung disposition ye. What you see is what you get. So pag nakakita ka ng white lady. A white lady yang. Wa pa kitaita ka ng dwende. A dwending puti yan. Dwending pute, dwending itim. So hindi mung hindi ka nagjaj jajj na ma' ring yan ai a pretentious spirit. Yeah. Pretending to be alamun was ating mythology, pak puting dwende. Babaet. So kaka kai bigani moa. Kasi putte na kita mwe. Okay ya me sa mpapa hanapsa nab sila ng ng metered ai, iha nap mu kun ng dwending pute. So that becomes very dangerous. Because you accept it as good. As good as you see it. Right. Eh ng deception. Hindi ka ngdi na ngdi discern and your discernment is not enlightened by the truth of the gospel, by the truth of the teachings of the church, and by the grace of the Holy Spirit.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:31

And wait, scandal yan lagging baby babale. Kungindi padre damaso, pedophile, yung kenya. So bata makikinik sa mhapare, ba tma ku kumpisa. So wala na shaya. Shani shany judge ng sari lingang morality and sari linian truth. Uh dipa di dece ma di deceiv sha.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

Parang la kikita ko jan yung kasipa pinapa no d gun story na pa ng boboy bang sekta. Parangga janga ganyan fab.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:05

In the past, ganil na ginya mormon. So may mang may mang babba kita. Uh-huh. And they accept it as and when people say, so by their fruits you shall see them. Kasi there they're using the gamalial principle. Yes, that works in a certain sense, but not all the time. Otherwise, will you say that certain you know certain false religions now are willed by God? Tagal na nila. Tagal na nila. Kasi ko hindi sila, no? Hindi sila coming from the Lord. Dibang ka se by their fruits, you shall you shall know. Tagal na sila di sa bi ni sa justalaga sila. Right. Menan lang yang.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:51

So to bata laga ang demonio. O mga jablo. O katang easi plang yang or fiction. Alam nyo akumismo nun, aime jun na dudu da den. Pero nung na expose ko ataka pag interview ko. Nang Maraming ma exorcist priest local man at mapa international. Dun kuna realize that the devil is real. Face to face tilang nae encounter Ama Debolic presence na ito. During their exorcism. Sabiani sinful ang la ba naten. A hindi la mang salamani. Hindi sa spiritual na kahya. Every day, kai indi na pisila na vikita. Ai merung la ban kilala natin ang kalaban natin. Pa'ano, sa halo ab, merun jang spiritual warfare horse.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:47

Hello and welcome to Halo. This is the first session of Exorcism 101 Spiritual Warfare. My name is Father Sekia, and together with Father Winston Kabading, I'll be guiding you through this journey of understanding and confronting the reality of spiritual warfare.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:19

Gamid and Gasal, Angma Sacrament, Angrosario, Atanana Palataya Nade Jesus.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:03

If they require offerings and sacrifices, only God deserves all sacrifice, honor, glory, and praise. And therefore, if you offer these things to this particular beings of mythology, very clear, it's not from God. So, on the Catholic perspective, these mythological creatures that we call encantos, they're all evil spirits, they're all fallen angels. That if you truly use the power of the church against them, like the Catholic sacramentals use in the proper way, Catholic prayers use in the proper way, and with faith, they will be unmasked. Ma unmask musina. So some spirits are more powerful than others, and therefore they can resist. One of the first cases of exorcism that I had, and Father Joseph was there beside me, no, we were we were expelling uh from a lady a demon, and then suddenly out of the blue, possessing an o yung bata, in a very womanly feminine voice, very gentle, spirit. Manganak Bakit nyu ku pinaalis. I was a neophyte then. I I really did not know what to do. Only Father Joseph told me, continue with the prayer. Continue with the prayer. So, we were praying in Latin at that time. Father Joseph practice your Latin. We will pray in Latin, we'll use the Roman ritual in Latin. Mama ya, ma si guru walapan two minutes, na continue prayer. Nagbago bosses nung nung baba. From that gentle voice to a coarse, very deep, earthly voice. So I realized, oops, this is an evil spirit. So after that, Joseph's no angnatapus na yon, what did I experience? You experience a deceiving spirit. Na sina sa biny pakita, na shain biginga power, paramaka too long, so mg mumukashang holy. Peroon kinamo, akaka na greaksha. Well, we are doing the prayer of exorcism. If you are if that comes from God, Hindi shall the prayer of exorcism. No, because the prayer is really a prayer of exorcism. It's not a prayer and praise of God, but it's a prayer to expel. So pretend yung spirit. It revealed its real self. Hindi ni radalko lang si la ng discernment, proper, proper, prayerful discernment, ma's deceived. And here in our case, ally, sa dwende, or sa mga maligno, they're deceived. And when once they start to get sick and their or their businesses start to falter, they'll blame God. They'll blame God, ka saying dwend sak, brings wealth, brings riches. Now, no, but then what they'll do is to blame God. They're going to blame the Lord, and Bakit Muhammad say, Ma bait named donate na machami simbahan, tak si simba na makame, but really those are just that's a Catholicism or Christianity that is very superficial. Right. I give you this, you give me this. It's not really a loving relationship. What needs to be done is for the person to develop a really loving relationship with God. Amen. Amen. Because without a real loving relationship with God, the evil spirit will not live. Yeah n boko.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:38

Aperu yuma duende nkant.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:42

Oh, you gan papa kita. Payangat na identify. Identify nila. Halaloi me materia daina kita nila, bata na mahabatenga, mahabaga. Bakit, eka si gana nun yungga sa mythology na tine. So para ma recognize na mgata, ung yung makila la nila, na ittoende, it will appear what is in the book. Yung Yo ong theories anosa m mga um ancient books. These are high-powered witches. So they are not really demons, but they are high-powered witches. Whether that is true, na gan on na ha hati nila katawanila, is something it can be an illusion. It can be an illusion for one thing. Daily mang other cultures have also this kind of creatures. So it seems that in our mythology, uh in our folklore, Philippines, amang witches, nahati katawan, mang aswang, pero in other cultures, flying witches, gina gami taman, broom. Megan nun din storia, no? Megan ding manga storia. Ba wat cultura ba so ba wat bansa we bang story bangating sa folklore eh. Pero exorces are of the unanimous opinion that this may be high-powered high-powered witches that can transform. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:31

Father, no pa not kin sa aljasi dokumentari. Sabinang psychologist doon. Mara mean possessions thou cases, I talag mental health issue lang to lad ng skitsuprinyat bipolar po. Kasabin ya malido diagnosis.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:45

Well, okay. Kasi um without without criticizing the doctor there. Kasi uh the process is uh an mantawakudon. They speak without knowing. An yung process, bagum makarating point of exorcism and some patient. When you're looking at it from that perspective, psychological lang yal, etcetera. But for example, in the Archdice of Manila, and of course, this is now the protocol of the AIE, the International Association of Exorcists, you have your psychologists, psychiatrists, doctors as consultants.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:34

So it is not, you know, I'm not sure. At sila y na go signal, okay, there's something here we cannot see that cannot be explained. So an exorcism may be helpful. So in the part of the archives of Manila, laginga no kayangat pag nakaratinka to be prayed over by amo, naka dumang kana sa isang stringent uh na uh filter process filtering dumang kana sa doctor Hindi yung hindi yung pumun takalang dada salang kana. Hindi indi kanun yan talagang dum angana sa masusing uh interview interview diagnosis my doctor's uh certification kana mataal. People are complaining batan tagal tagal Eka sika ilangan magin sigura adui. Now yeah we're not dealing with a psychological, psychiatric, pathological sickness. Again, the other part is this is also taught to us, we must always think of a person as body and soul. You cannot separate them. Therefore, the psychological is integrally connected with the spiritual. Right. So hindi ng sabi na 100% psychological lang yang in the kailang and lagi mun titing nan na may affect sila says. There are there are clear signs of the psychological, but you also have to know the background of the person. You have to know the religious background of the person or lack of it, what are the practices that they did, etc. Because that has an effect.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:35

Kato la dung recent na psychologist ngaousa posa parang ini introduj na draw sa kang ni psycho spiritua.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:43

Oh, me effect, no? So lagi sa sabisa amine, even if you say uh 80-20, 80% psychological, 20% uh spiritual. The 80% can be answered by the uh scientist or by the psychologist, by professional, the psychiatrist. The 20% spiritual can be answered by the by the church, by the priest, right? By the exorcist, kun talagang malala. And therefore, ma gamut mung yung spiritual ma gi improve yung psychological or ma improve ma gamut mung yung psychological ma gi improve yung spiritual. They go hand in hand. Hindi kaped automatic, siskoprinic lang yay.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:30

May affect yung spiritual sa ninyan no.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:46

Healthy skepticism exists in every exorcist. Clear yun, you have to have a healthy skepticism that not every case that comes to you that claims to be diabolic is really diabolic. You have to know the history of the person. Kayangat me san kayang Father Joseph, ayo nya yung, and we we learned this also from our own practice. Ayung yung ambush, Father, dasalan mulango mwa la na n di pedi ma storye. Ba watao ma storia. Right. There's always a story. And therefore, you need to know the story of the person in order to gauge a ni yung level of spiritual affliction nanata sa ta'o.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:35

And if that spiritual affliction is really spiritual or it's something else. Old n old old thought na yan. Old thought na yung ganung dismiss mu again. Parang anudinyan, parang y ma old sina unama pari natin na pagnaka kita ngany nyan me ng yayare. Ai, go tum lang yan, ay, anulang yan, uh, psychological lang. Oh, per pak nakita ni lang meika bang nang yayare na hindina, kunyare tuma tumitirik namata, humahabana dila, lumulutang na nongagawinila, rasabinila, ay d nhunti alumyni, delimunalang dunsa, albulario sakabilang kanto. Ganunangagawinila. So here you have a Catholic uh also a a wrong mentality, right? Na pa gindi la masa got ipadalas albulario. People go to the albulario. Or the other way around is to outrightly dismiss it and say, go to m lang yan. Or psychological ya. So, in business yun tao, you turn them away. Kaya pupun tasila.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:52

Salbulario.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:53

Salbulario.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:54

Yes, makes sense. Ta posabiny mass possession though, is mass hysteria lang or emotional contagion.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:01

I am not a psychologist. I'm not a psychiatrist. Father Joseph said, dinangal ng word na mass hysteria.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:08

Wala na dougen yan.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:16

Perspective kasinakita nahu talagan ng ano ng possession na talagang involving five students. Involving five students. So uh sila sila yun talagang tinu man yung mass hysteria ba yon, mass contagion. All I know is that during that time ma kikita mima bata talagang apanuba naha kitasabing yung yung isa yitang kita myung bokh nyang mayhumi hila. A na sa gako y ngata ngibasa titi la tihi ya, dal mehumi hila talga ngbok nya. Indina wang na kalugila ng bukh nyang naha ta kalaila lang. Hindi na kikita mutalga mehumi hila, eh. Hindi malangita kung sini humi hila. Oh, papash isanaman yung parang me tumata lun sakanyang lehanyang balikat. Indi na shaguma ganuni, inakikita mutalagang me tumata pak, ziba. Papos yung yung isanaman e me sumi si pasalikod, indi na ma sang beb bend la, na kikita mutalagan si on hiya ymbataka se, me tumata jacali kut nya. So are you going to to say na sis masis tera lang yan pa de la munila, nan nggina wam mo, on the pastoral side, na baya an mo people will think that the church does not care.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:46

And everything that they preach, pak the thing sa uh gospels yung Jesus Christ has the power to expel demons, yon anulang fantasia lang yon.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:58

Yes, yes, tama.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:00

And therefore you you lose the power of the gospel. Dini dismiss mwe ndimu tulunga. No the the proper the proper uh disposition is to always see that there are things that we cannot explain. Now we have two psychiatrists from USD that we consult. Two professor scientists uh two professor psychiatrists uh in the department of psychiatry that we consult and we send clay clients to them. Pagna kingita namin this this might be psychiatric or psychological, pina dat de la namin sa kanila and sila yung kuma kwa nanang diagnosis. So pak dating sa amin, aladela yung ano yung yung report, alam namin duma duma ana sa doctor to questioning pa ba naamin yon. Sa na maksa sabe, uh sasasabina manyam bainganon me there's there's a hint of uh this kind of sickness, but merung merong area na hindi ma explain. And perhaps this can be revealed using exorcism.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:17

Thank you for sharing the father. And I think in yung role na confession at Holy Communion.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:24

Okay. So confession and holy communion are very uh potent sacraments to purify the soul and to strengthen the soul, to receive sanctifying grace and to receive actual graces, to strengthen the soul, to resist the evil spirits. And the evil one has access to us because of our sins, because we are separated from God because from our sins. So confession, the absolution, restores sanctifying grace in our soul and and and increases love of God. Kayana pagan confession mo, talaga since confession. Paglabasy no confession, masaya, my pisha. He or she receives the grace of uh sanctifying grace, but also the actual grace of to love God more and to grow in virtue. So naravam dama, very nice diva. Now, when he receives Holy Communion, the person receives Holy Communion, receives Jesus Christ mismo. And if you receive it worthily, then you strengthen the sanctifying grace, and you receive abundant actual graces. The intention of each of those actual graces, the workings of the actual grace, is to strengthen the sanctifying grace and your will, disposition to love God and to love your neighbor. It's a dominant temptation na non-stop. Eventually, ma walang ka ng time, ma wa walang ka ng disposition na to resist. Ninuala kasa just bendigan eximba. Hey na ko. Yes. Right. Tailang me communion sakanya. Yes, you have a communion. For us Catholics, Jesus said that he who receives who he eats my body, drinks my blood, will have life in him. Very literal for us Catholics, very literal, that is the bread and the wine in the Holy Eucharist is the precious body and blood of our Savior. Amen. And its intention as food is to strengthen our soul. Right. Strengthen our souls, strengthen the habitual sanctifying grace present to make us holy, and actual graces to further strengthen and cement the presence of sanctifying grace. And also, of course, active actual graces allows us to be truly friends of Jesus. And therefore, our prayers become our prayers become powerful because we are friends. When we go to confession, we open our hearts heart to heart. We open our heart to Jesus and Jesus opens his heart to us that he loves us very much and that's why we're we are being forgiven. And that we recognize our sinfulness and our failures and our need for mercy. Friendship yon. Pato o kaddu sa kai big and mo.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:50

Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:57:51

Apos lagim pasang kasama, edin di na kaka hiyang humi.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:59

Father mei maha ilang question lang pudito before puta magrab. Merun sabidito Father bakipo sa isang walking possess or partially possess, min san mein na lala ang tao ka pa ina aata ki na ng demonyo. Pero minsa na mana i wala ta lagang memory. Anu pong dailang nito ainsa y nyung experience bilang exorcis.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:19

Pang full possession na wala ng memory. So isabihen the evil spirit sends the person as it were his consciousness to sleep. So wala shang consciousness. Part n brain nanag sha shut down. Para indima alala yg ng yare. Yung yung yun yung part na yung. Now, in spartions, oftentimes the person is aware that something is happening and can remember, but do not really cannot really control what is happening in his or her body. So um angta nung donun ng yayare bakit ganon oftentimes I willingly willingly wants to be possessed. May magana ne mga ng se yan chin totong seyan siung tu mata ognama ma ka lulu wa atusunila sapi an sila when they get possessed yung moment na yon ma a ring na kalimu ta nila lahat. Pero in an exorcism, it seems in our observation, these people who who are used to spirits coming in and out, pak the ting nasa exorcism aware sila. And the reason is the devil wants them to experience the pain of the exorcism. So yung evil spirit is parangre taliate and wants the person to experience the pain of the exorcism. The pain of the exorcism is nothing more than just prayers. I mean, it's just words and the use of the sacramentals. Right. Pag nakaki taka nan tuna exorcism. Walla mghi ni la lati gujan, indika tu lad nama gina goana nama witch doctors. Nan la latigo, nggalagainang postporo, papa tak ng kandila, wala kaming kenyan, walang. The only thing that we do is we do the prayer, we put the stole, we put the crucifix before the person, our hands on the head of the person, we apply uh blessed oil over the foreheads, parts of the body, like like the eyebrows, nose, some lips, sa ears, sa neck, sa may heart area, sa hands, sa shoulders. But those are harmless because these are just blessed oils. Holy water, you just sprinkle, nintina mannilun no walama niluluna. So for the spirit spirits, men shang concomitant nanara ramdaman pain. So this is the pain of hell, meaning these sacramentals are because they are holy, inflict on the spirits the pains of hell. So mi hiao, in other words, the pain of the glory of God pierces through them. It pierces to them instead of transforming, then it pierces to them like a like a sword or like a like a spear. And so, nararam dhamanila, yung pain tea, nganto y din yung nggyayari, some mangatao na partially possessed because they've been used to being possessed. So during the anti-exorcism, partial, naravam dhamanila, consciousila, pero hindi nila ma m control sailinila. Usually ng yayari, and pagun ta'o in a normal state, allows himself or herself to be possessed by spirit.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:10

And Father Aktipu akongsu mudsa matok ni father diary n lagia hung no pisal, nat mimisa tung ningo na grorosari, diba imber si chaplet, at ngbaba sa ng Bible, pero bahi me parang me ron pari na kong struggles. Ano poang possibling ngyare.

SPEAKER_09 2:02:25

Okay. This is very interesting. Um holiness is not accomplished on one on one passing, no?

SPEAKER_02 2:02:35

Right.

SPEAKER_09 2:02:36

So gusungi pakita usually saati ng pangino on. Kung matagal natai yung gumagami ng power ng evil spirit, o matagal natai yung malayu sa pangino on. In God's wisdom min san me mata o omangapaka kata on that God does not uh impute complete deliverance partial deliverance and the mere fact that a person is able to pray, go to the sacrament is already a sign of deliverance, but it's not complete deliverance. Why? So that the person will understand uh the one ma maraming pass possibilities na penis is a gote. One na uh we cannot live without grace, therefore we should always live in grace.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:38

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 2:03:38

So parang hindika hindika magpapa baya. Alm yon parang. If you if if you are easily healed by just popping one pill, sakit ng ulumo, minung anon nang, ban sakit ng uh pain, yes, gumalinka, nathing sayo, ma dalila ng sakit mo. Kase kailangulang ng isang pill. Pero pak malalay yung sinabisay ku yasbing oto anoto, i mumin mutu ng mga one month. Okaya seven days, i no min muto kalik mg antibiotics, my cycle, pak mw ititigil, malala yon. Kase pakti nigil mo ma a ring bumarikin sakin.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:22

Right.

SPEAKER_09 2:04:22

So making, pakisa yung ito, forever munato inuen maintenance munato, lintu big, wako makpa baya.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:33

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 2:04:33

And God teaches us that too. Na pak nakpa bayaka, ano ingana evil spirit. So being dika pa completely liberated. So Allah God allows you to have that kind of pain or suffering so that you will not forget. Wow. That's one. The other one, especially for advanced souls, is God allows this so that you will offer your sufferings to God in union with the sufferings of Christ. This is a good example of this, is Saint Gemma Galgani. Yeah uh Saint Carlo Akutis, for example, and that they use their sickness as an offering to the Lord to participate in the sufferings of Christ. So very meritorious, Saint Gemma Galgani, see blessed Anne Emerich, so uh Mother Teresa of Calcutta as well, good uh Damien of Moloka, Yunganyang Leprosi, I'm sure Late Masantung they also prayed to the Lord, but eventually they discovered that that is not God's holy will and desire for them. So they just offered their sufferings for their salvation and the salvation of those most in need of God's mercy. Saint Carlo Kuti said that in his suffering, he instructed his mother not to bring him to the best hospitals because there are more people who are in need of help, and that he's offering his sacrifice, his his um his pain and his sickness for the church, for the pope, and for humanity, for a 15-year-old boy to say that. Heroic talagaya. So one is para hindi ka magpabaya, the other one is to special advanced souls is to allow them to offer their sufferings for the salvation, for their own salvation, in atonement for sins and uh and the sins of the whole world.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:46

Redemptive suffering.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:47

No, redemptive suffering. So uniting, uniting our sufferings to sufferings of Christ. Anta nong baket me remnants. So is God using that remnant for further purification, further sanctification of the first one?

SPEAKER_01 2:07:25

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:28

Kaila kailangan malaman anun background in.

SPEAKER_03 2:07:32

And Father, ako po I divorce mola sa nan Catholic husband, at dail Hindi pa ng kaka pag anulment, nagliling kut poho bilang, extraordinary minister of holy communion, se okay. Pwedi pa ba ako magdasal, ng deliverance prayer or binding prayers para sa ex-husband ko.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:53

Para sa ex-husband, yeah. So, uh okay. Uh which means they are live, they're no longer living together, correct?

SPEAKER_03 2:08:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 2:08:02

But they uh they are divorced.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_09 2:08:04

And uh non-catholic Yung husband. Yung husband. But the person, the this the woman is not living in with another man.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:16

Yeah, yes. Or is she? Not not poor father.

SPEAKER_09 2:08:22

So peding yang pagdasal ba yung as a yung. Oh no manya. Oh no man. It's a benya, it's an intercessory prayer.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 2:08:36

So the intercessory prayer is offered both for the living and the dead and for the living, whatever whatever uh status or situation they are in, we can intercede on their behalf. In the end, it's the Lord that determines whether the prayer that you offer will be will be the grace that you're asking for this person, whether it be will be given to him or not. Ma'ala na say Lord, Basalam natin, walang prayer na nasaya. If we offer the prayer with a sincere heart, uh with a humble heart, and with faith in the mercy and love of God, God will always hear the prayer. Now, whether the prayer will be immediately, the grace of the prayer immediately applied to the ex-husband is another thing. But the grace is already being applied to the one praying. Oh. This is very clear in Catholic theology and spirituality. Whenever we pray for anyone other than ourselves, we are become the first recipient of the grace. Because ang ngabao, a supernatural charity. Love God above all, love your neighbor. So, pagnagi exists yung supernatural love na yon. Yung ta yung yung unang ta tang nung grasha. Pilang sal natin tao out of supernatural charity, yung whether y applain nan gyos yung grace na hindi mo, agad agad, josa ta' m yun is one thing. Yes, yon, kasa hindi yingwe. Hindi mwe in faith and in the in and in in in charity in love. So susun dinang jusion, sasu go dinang jos, in his time. Everikao, na tangap puna ying grace, dina tangap muna ying grace, right there and there. Increase in supernatural love. Increase is in in supernatural charity. So the more you pray for others, the greater the love that is infused, that is infused in the hearts.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:56

Sabidito Father, umbien nan kopoy naka na kasakit sa pa'a, nepa doctor, nepal volar yo peru hindi gumaling. Pak naposman confess, atma pa anointing of the sick, gumaling nasha, pero bahit merung parinsang na kikitang bata sabai atanino kait sha lang angakahita bakit hindi nawala lahat pakatafos ng sacramento.

SPEAKER_09 2:11:17

Because na the sacrament of anointing of the sick. Uh anointing of the sick confession is intended for the soul. This one, the person has uh occult practices. So another type of anion, another type of um intended prayer, okay. No, intentional prayer. And what we do here is we close the third eye. Okay. Because the person might have already an open third eye. Kayasha nakaka nakagaka kasakitna na hindima gamut nan doctor is that the sickness is already. Not simply biological or medical, but there is also a spiritual component. And the spiritual component is confessably my sin component, pero at the same time, another component which is occult. And therefore, kailangan dun tang yun uh as first step after confession is occult practices. Kummeron shonga occult practices, renounce and then to close the third eye.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:41

So n ba exorcist priest father?

SPEAKER_09 2:12:55

Ang opening ng activity na third eye. Their prayer of renouncement and consecration to God is enough. Especially la luna pag very impossible na mahahu wa ng priest to do to do the closing of the third eye. God will not demand the impossible paganon. Pero my possibility pag la luna paginta o I deeply involved into the occult.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:30

Anong specific prayer, Father.

SPEAKER_09 2:13:35

First and foremost, renouncement. Renouncement of all occult practices. Okay? The second one is prayer of consecration to the Blessed Mother. It could be the prayer. So that's www.amo-e.ph. And there is a downloadable link where you can download uh prayers that can be helpful. And one of those prayers is consecration to the Blessed Virgin Mary to close the psychic abilities. So they can do that. Then you're okay now. Pagindi nagsara at merum paren, then maraming kailang ba ring tignan. Is it the place? So the place where the person lives, or bhaha merum pasabahina something na occult. No? Sometimes in the mohala in the me mga bahamga may ma binagi peng albulario, na ma bagay bagay, may mg anting anting, may mg amulet, may habak la luna from the south. Any habak father. Uhabak is a form of a talisman. Protection is uh a gimat na pero it is in the form of something that is given by the family to a child. Usually na kasu potyan na meilamang ma oration uhlamang human body parts.

SPEAKER_07 2:15:16

I mean na kita wong ga nyin. Pinos ng uh na isang ang parks or si.

SPEAKER_09 2:15:21

Yes yes. Ma human body parts usually mg mg ano ma cartilage. Cartilage na teta winilang green green uh green bone. Yeah but a relic. Oh green bone, very powerful. But it's an occult thing. The difference between an occult body part and a first-class relic is really what it is. Because relic of the saints remind us of the saints who are in God. So they are to be used properly. The relics are to be reverently used to venerate the saints and to give thanks to God to glorify the Lord. Primary purpose to get the relics is for protection. The way it should be used in terms of devotion to God, growth in holiness, growth in virtue. Oh m ari shangabasana, aradin shang. Superstitious superstitious belief. Wow. Nidi mala yuya nyungga gumagamit ng mga religious objects crucifix. Pantaboy n demonio uhiki tanguyane. So TikTok, TikTok, lasada shopi ma online platform selling these things. Anong word gina gamit na Saint Benedict Medal, charm. Dibba. Hindi man gira gamit yung word na sacramentale. It's a bina charm.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 2:17:05

To ex to protect you from evil spirits. Pang mantra la ban sa demonio at masamang spirito. It's use as an anting and thing. So it's a sacramental, Catholic sacramental. The intention of the Catholic Church is for really for protection. But it has to be used properly. It is used as a charm. So in this context, you can then be careful where you buy your sacramentals. So it does not come from a reputable Catholic source. It is being used as a charm. So my occult dimension. Simoni.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:03

Simone, right.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:04

Simone, because it's a good thing. So protect you. Superstitious bitches.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:16

And maybe atin last question, Father, anopoyum best prayers, emergency po emergency cases.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:25

Okay. The ones that I have seen to be filled with help is the divine mercy prayer. Because that is the promise of our Lord to Saint Faustina. Right. Now for those who are dying, the same uh the prayer for Divine Mercy, the chaplet of Divine Mercy, helps a lot to convert the soul and to beg the eternal mercy of God through Jesus Christ. So very helpful. Well, one effective prayer would be the chaplet of divine mercy. So pakindi anointing several mahakagawa. Right. Which is very helpful. So in the absence of the priest, ano preparation. Chaplet of the Divine Mercy. I find that, and I always recommend that it be said and prayed. Because there's no such thing as distance from God. Yes. We pray and there's supernatural charity will always have an effect.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:15

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 2:20:16

Amen to that. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:18

And Father and Upong Gusunam Gusumong Ipak Dasal Nami say.

SPEAKER_09 2:20:22

Oh well. First and foremost, you're gonna know you pray for us priests. Is an unworthy priest. So you pray, we pray for our priests that they be worthy, they be holy. So holy priest. So you pray for all priests that we be holy, so that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. All the rest become secondary in the sense that holy priests become very effective instruments of salvation for the people of God. And God will work tremendously in the ministry of faithful priests for that purpose.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:19

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 2:21:24

We pray to the Lord. We pray to the Lord. We pray to the Lord. We pray that there be more holy priests.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:31

Yeah. Father Sanila Pedi Subaibean y ma sa yuma yuma activities ng amoe.

SPEAKER_09 2:21:42

Specialist Facebook page. Yes. Arch Lai Submanila, Office of Exorcism. So there's a web page ng. I know not there's a web page that's but basically downloadable prayers. And the um updates are found in the Facebook page of Amo. That is uh Office of Expert.

SPEAKER_03 2:22:11

Father Yung Samanak Tata nong ying sa St. Michael Center, Pano Sila Sheprin, Pano Pano Basilang Karunang Access Access. Yes, or make it sila don.

SPEAKER_09 2:22:27

There is a contact uh information. Sa no sa Facebook page ng Facebook page ng amo. So paramaita nila yung yung what we call this process, no? Okay, we we what like to avoid mg walk-ins basta basta. Ma hira pung walk-in se. Uh uh. Kasi. We're out, we're doing me outside. And at the same time, hindi muna pe prepare. I say ng office, na yung ambush. Kasi kailang a process. Kai lang muna ma intake interview, if you fill up conforms, kasi follow for follow up, story moon bana. And uh ambush, and to yung kinata sabi no psychologists. Psychologists. People who just come and then you just uh do an exorcism. Right. So problematic. Even Father Darwin in Bohol has a maramin punger in Dile. And there many of these people come from the provinces, from the rural areas. Hindi is a processing, processing. But what they do is that there are many, many of his volunteers who catechise, who catechize them and introduce them to the sacraments first and foremost. So they introduce him sacraments, so confession available, uh, anointing of the sick, and there's always holy communion that is available. So it's a sacrament, bring them back to the sacraments, bring them back to receive sanctifying grace. And then after the catechises and after all these things, then Father Darwin does a general prayer of deliverance for them. And if some would react to the prayers, process further.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:59

Yeah. How about blessing of sacramentals, father?

SPEAKER_09 2:25:06

So they leave the sacramentals there and they are blessed, no? Uh, by the whoever is the exorcist of present for the day. Uh but of course, certain sacramentals don't require exorcist for the in fact, there are no exorc there are no sacramentals just for exorcist, except exorcism. All the rest can be done by ordinary priests properly disposed. They can be blessed. Again, mentality, nakakar on a superstitious belief. It's the church that blesses. The minister, one blesses the sacramentals with the intention to bless them using the prayer, uh, using the uh intention of the church. So even if that is just a simple sign of the cross, it is truly blessed. Because the intention of the priest is to bless. Imagine more, you go to Rome. You buy you bought a lot of uh rosaries, Saint Benedict Medals, medallions, and you and the post says, Oh, uh yung mga, uh sacramentals, you know, and he just offers a simple prayer. Mighty God bless you, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Oh, so it's a being less powerful, kasa indigina mit yung.

SPEAKER_11 2:26:38

Right in there.

SPEAKER_09 2:26:40

The intention is to do what the church intends to do. So we trust that the priests are blessing those objects with the intention of having them bless uh in the manner that the church requires. Butong no na uh merun talagma special prayers for certain sacramentals, and we have to say, So, pagmer conference, and dami dami sacramentals, isa isa in my book. Pagdita Santo Domingo after the Sunday Mass, people come for the blessing, and some father Anupo yung exorcist him. Hey, kung yung paring nag misa ayo yung gumami tanganon uh di ba na blessing sacrament. Blessing yung sacramental no. Dimu kun md mm pay sabina, aywala effect, mala effect. It's really bless. Right. Big n si seeing it, or yung ano, yung double double blessing or triple blessing or quadruple blessing yung tipung na bless na gina gami tung rosary. Iung superstition yung. Mayun hubang na dagdag sa blessing na rosarino, dialin labas nyo yung rosarino after at para pa bless. Indeepasi pyru exorcist no puka yungka extra power. So you sometimes you really have to temper the overly pious view of some of our Catholic faithfulness. That's not how it works.

SPEAKER_10 2:28:44

No, that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_03 2:28:46

Anyway. Thank you. Thank you for reminding to us, yeah, especially uh Tamay and Father Na Lhatang Free.

SPEAKER_09 2:28:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:28:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 2:29:10

Oh, no, me mangana. In their piety, they think that the blessing of an exorcist for particular objects are more powerful than the blessing of an ordinary uh priest.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:26

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 2:29:26

That's wrong. That's wrong. Wrong and dangerous mentality.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:31

Yes. And Father Winston, for your generosity for this uh very jump conversation and bagu se father, and you never fail us. Sama wisdom mo and uh your revelation and it's it it inspires us, Father, and give us hope and inspiration every day to fight na m di natin kilang atahota ngga demonio, pangulo that uh you remind us that Jesus is Lord, na Maltai in the Lord. Um problema division, we stay in the boat.

SPEAKER_06 2:30:15

Amen. Amen to that.

SPEAKER_03 2:30:17

Thank you, Father. And boga pedimong beginning prayer and a blessing.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:23

Heavenly Father, bless your children who ask for blessing, those who will listen to this program. May they always experience your love for them, may you keep them safe always in your loving care. And may the mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the cloak of Saint Joseph ever protect them from all danger and harm and from every manner of assault and retaliation from evil spirits for those who are listening that may be sick. May you grant them healing, the healing that they need, and may you always inspire them to holiness and to greater to the greater service of you and glory of you. May you grant them all their prayers that we ask in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord to the intercession of the glorious Virgin Mary, of all the holy angels and saints. Amen. Amen. The Lord be with you, and may the blessing and protection of Almighty God be with you always, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

SPEAKER_03 2:31:18

Thank you so much, Father Asian.

SPEAKER_09 2:31:20

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 2:31:21

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SPEAKER_03 2:31:46

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