Navigating the Valley: Building Resilience Through Pain with Ryan

Pain possesses the profound capacity to either dismantle our spirits or fortify our resilience. In high-performance environments, be it within the military, corporate realms, or entrepreneurial ventures, we often find ourselves conditioned to suppress, outrun, or outwork our discomfort. However, we propose that true breakthroughs may not arise from evading adversity but rather from intentionally traversing through it. In this discourse, we shall delve into the themes of resilience, faith, and purpose, particularly as they manifest under pressure. Join us as we explore these critical concepts and their implications for personal and professional growth.

Takeaways:

• The journey through pain can serve as a catalyst for personal growth and resilience.
• In high-performance environments, individuals are often conditioned to suppress their emotional struggles instead of confronting them.
• True strength lies not in avoidance of difficulties but in intentionally traversing through them with purpose.
• Recognizing and addressing limiting beliefs is crucial for professionals seeking to improve their performance and well-being.

Links referenced in this episode:

• protectordevelopment.com
• ryantreichert.com

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Queen has a way of either breaking us or building us. We all know that, right? But in high performance environments, whether it's military, it's corporate, it's entrepreneurial, we are often taught to suppress it, outrun it. Or I would say outwork it. So what if the breakthrough doesn't come from avoiding the value but walking through it with the intention?

Exploring Resilience Under Pressure

SPEAKER_00 0:29

So today we will explore the resilience faith and the purpose under pressure. Hey dear listeners, welcome back to another powerful episode of Mind Meets a Machine, where we explore the leadership mindset and the human performance in a world that constantly contests our limits. I'm your host, Abik, and today I'm joined by a lovely guest. Please welcome Ryan T. Richard. So welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Thanks, Abik. Really appreciate it. Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Amazing. Thank you so much for joining us today. And so, dear listeners, before we get into the discussion today, I'll quickly love to introduce you with Ryan. So Ryan is a professional speaker, mindset trainer, executive coach, and obviously the best-selling author and the retired US Army Lieutenant McConnell. So after 23 years of military service, core combat deployments and a transition into Fortune 500 leadership, he now dedicates his work to helping overwhelmed professionals break free from the limiting beliefs and rediscover the purpose and grow stronger through the reflection, the faith, and the action. It'll gonna be a great discussion today, dear listener. So uh I'll not take my soft time. Let's get started. Welcome to the show again.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Yeah, no, I mean it's uh it's funny just listening to you kind of go down the bio. All of it just that's what a lifetime looks like, right? 47 years of uh activity. And some people might be like, oh, it sounds like a lot, it sounds whatever it sounds like. To me today, when I reflect on all that, it's just basically one story that gets them to having a conversation like we're doing from either side of the world, and knowing that we can take something from everybody, be it if you're you know, a half-life of me, you know, basically we're you know, you're 23 years old, you still you still have a story, but there's more to be written. And what can you take from the lessons that I've learned over time and space? That just like you said, for me, I internalized a lot of that pressure, that pain, that suffering. And it caused me to implode, basically. And with that, now today, I just want to help others so they don't have to suffer as long as I did, and basically cause a lot of drama in your life because you weren't willing to share all of those fears that you had, because as a man, it's not okay to cry, it's not okay to say you're not okay, and all of these limiting beliefs that are out there because today, you know, real men cry and real men share their feelings. That transparency and brutal honesty that allows us to literally, you know, a lot of that story that you shared in the bio is just only over the last couple of years. It wasn't the amazing 23-year military career, it wasn't the you know, few years in Fortune 500 America. It's literally just the last basically two years of it, which is blowing up because I've found ways to not internalize it anymore, is just to continue to share it and give it away. Because if you give it away, you get to keep it. And for me today, what that looks like is my walk and recovery and my walk and my spirituality. So it it's one of those that uh yeah, let's go. So I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Amazing, amazing. You know, like one thing I'm uh really very curious about because you have moved from the combat zones to the corporate bed uh boardrooms, um, and also about the personal recovery as well. So uh like what was the moment that when you realize that the strength is not about kind of suppressing the pain, but actually confronting it.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

For me, it was I look back and reflect on my mortality and my sinfulness. When I look when I reflect on the seven deadly sins, it's this dynamic of once you've X'd every one of them off the list in this dynamic where I finally found myself in a Alcoholics Anonymous meeting and finally going like, I surrender, I can't do this anymore. I can't carry this rucksack full of 45 years of lying to everybody that I come in contact with because I'm afraid of the truth. I'm afraid of being brutally honest with all the things that I believe I'm inadequate, or you know, that imposter syndrome possibly, the dynamic of just that I don't know what I'm doing and I'm not okay. And the only way for me to feel better was to drink more, take more prescription drugs that took the pain away, be it the physical pain, the emotional pain, that mental instability that I just didn't have any control. So that allowed me to have some control. And now today I can basically walk through that, and it's in the practices that I figured out what works the best. And I think that was the military side of it, is I had such a structured life, which, though really focused on you know, I was in the infantry, so we worked out every day for, you know, I mean, if you were training the time, it was 90 minutes. If you're training to standard, it could be longer or it could be less. It just depends on what we're doing. But I think that is what I've honed back in in part of like my performance coaching is winning or losing, it doesn't really matter. Like if you think about a game, a sport, right? Cricket, or if we're playing American football versus international football, I use soccer. It's this dynamic of it doesn't matter what the scoreboard is, if we create that standard and what does that standard look like? And for me, my standard to allow me to win every single day is your three daily wins. It's this physical win, it's this mental win, and a spiritual win. That if I do what I do, which looks like you know working out for two hours in the morning while I read my Bible after that, and then I pray and meditate in such a way that no matter what my day looks like after that, it could be a complete poop show or just completely out of control. But I know I've done everything that I said I would do and created you know that threshold of winning in those three areas, which is my standard, non-negotiables. That is what I think allowed me to be successful in the military. The problem is I did not take that into my corporate career.

The Transition from Military to Corporate Leadership

SPEAKER_01 7:12

I was like, I'm retired now, woo, we're good. I I can sleep in till I gotta go into the office. And little thing called COVID. I don't know if it happened on your side of the world, but it certainly happened here in the United States. And so I didn't always have to go into work. Sometimes we'd only have to go into the office like, you know, one day a week, three days a week. And corporate started at like nine, and you know, we were done by five. I'd I have a saying, you know, you lock in those three daily wins from five to nine so that locks in your nine to five. Me not doing that when my corporate environment, I gained 50 pounds. I was making way more money than I was making, obviously, in the military, about three times that with everything all in tail. And I was just burning it because I was unhappy. I wasn't fulfilled. The corporate environment did not give me the purpose that the military did. And so realizing that today, I actually created a course called The War of Purpose Built to Break. And it shows that you're gonna have moments in your life that are gonna try and break you. I went through a divorce, my children didn't want to have anything to do with me. Then I lost that corporate job, and thank goodness I was about eight months, seven or eight months sober when that happened. So I had a solid foundation to you know finally have like that most, you know, for me, catastrophic thing. I'd never lost a job in my life before. And I was at peace though in that moment because I'm like, what else can happen? What else can possibly happen? The person you had a 25-year relationship with, your two, you know, at the time, I suppose, 16 and 18-year-old daughters, like basically being like, you know, you're a failure, dad. Like, you know, we can't we can't hang with you anymore. You know, you broke our hearts, kind of thing. And

The Journey of Reinvention and Purpose

SPEAKER_01 9:00

then it's like, okay, final nail in the coffin, you know, multi-six-figure job ends up going away. Now what? What do you do? What do you do? And in that, that's where I started to create my way out. And what it looked like was the dog. I mean, I was super depressed through, you know, getting to that point already, but I was into this journey of very spiritual awakening. You know, I was enlightened, I had this rebirth as such. I found myself, you know, for the first time in my life, buying a Bible. I'd already started going to church shortly after I sobered up. But in it all, you just really saw this cleansing of everything in myself and knowing that if this is Ryan's rock bottom, at least we finally found it so we can work our way out of it. And now today, that's all I want to do is help others work their way out of it. Because you don't have to have the catastrophe that I did, like the one after another after another after another. You can just maybe have one of them and let's find a way to you know get through it so you don't have to have the complete uh what do you want to call it, reinvention basically, or starting from scratch, the full demolition of your life. That uh that certainly can happen to many of us, and I know a lot of guys that it does happen to, but uh there is there is not an easier, softer way, but there is a solution.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

I agree. I agree. So um one more thing is like um your work with the professionals who feel overwhelmed or struck, maybe uh been into performance issues. What limiting beliefs tend to show up repeatedly? What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah, there's it normally like for me personally, when I reflect on myself and then see it in others, it's this dynamic that they believe something is gonna fill their spiritual size hole. Like it's like when I make $500,000 a year, I'll be happy. When I become the COO, the CFO, the CEO, I'll be happy. When my family goes to Disneyland for the 15th time, I will be happy or will be happy, or whatever that dynamic is. It's it's this false reality of either an idolatistic or materialistic standpoint, title, whatever it is. And normally what I've noticed is people then start to go down a hole of, you know, like for me, it was alcohol and prescription drugs. For a lot of other men, speaking for men here, women can be similar as well. Pornography. Then you have obviously the dynamic of gluttony, and what does that look like in the sense of when I think of like today, I've been able to ratchet back on everything, you know, like not doing nicotine anymore, but I still suffer from like Mr. Ben and Jerry's ice cream, the sugar monster kind of thing. And so maybe you don't have a problem with alcohol, maybe you don't have a problem with like drugs or prescription drugs, maybe it's not pornography either, but maybe it's the overeating, right? You're filling some emotional hole with the way you feel, and that goes back to motivation versus discipline. And that's the thing, we can't do it on our own. When people are like, holy cows, Ryan, in your reinvention, you became a best-selling author, you lost all that weight, you speak now, you just did a TEDx here in Duluth, Minnesota. Like, how, what, where, why? And it's this dynamic of personal and professional growth plans. But I have a coach in every single one of those areas. Just like when you think of American football, we have like a head coach, an assistant coach, an offensive coach, a defensive coach, a linebacker coach, a safety coach, a quarterback coach, a running back coach, special teams coach. Like every single area on those teams has a coach. So why wouldn't you think you need somebody in your corner to keep you semi-accountable and that possibly has gone before you and made it out the other side with some type of game plan, right? And so those limiting beliefs always go back to we're chasing something versus attracting. You know, that law of attraction is so much the power in it, I guess, of understanding once we surrender to whatever those beliefs are, the dynamic of the relief. It's it's like a pressure valve almost where it's like, you know, letting the air out because you were suppressing so much of it and carrying so much of it, you know, where the for my dynamics I think about, and this is all me, you know, it wasn't anybody else putting it in it because I I wasn't honest with myself to have conversations with people, but I thought we had to have like a 5,000 square foot house to be, you know, the man, the husband, the father that gives their family everything. I thought, you know, a swimming pool was what was necessary, or season tickets at whatever sporting event, having a boat at the lake for us to just drive onto and hop, hop onto. Like all these things that didn't create the brutal honesty that I was kind of talking about and having real conversations on you know, I'm about ready to explode. I can't do this anymore. But I I was too afraid to have those conversations because my fear of abandonment that my family would then leave me. And so then I just burnt everything to the ground and everybody left anyways. So that's what happens. But I think that's why I always want to share is for boys to become men, like we have to be brutally honest, because that honesty will give you the greatest life that you've always wanted to have. It's the one that literally those dreams that are inside of you that come up, and you're like, Yeah, I could literally be a best-selling author. That's something I never thought about, but like I have this thing keep popping in my head. Or maybe it's just you want to write a book, and I mean that's how it started, right? It took three books before one became a bestseller. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

And and like um, if you talk about the how pain shows up in the leadership, like in high-stakes um environment, uh unresolved pain, I'd say it can it can show up as a kind of control, anger, control, or maybe even addiction as well. So as someone who's worked through the recovery, how do you help leaders um recognize the early warning signals?

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yeah, so I have a focus framework that we go through. And the way I break down focus, and it and it's different for every person, and that's why we we go through it. It's this dynamic of for me, it's faith, opportunity, consistency, unconditional kindness, and the standard. So the dynamic basically, depending on if you already have like spirituality in your life, we can start with the F and work our way to the standard to see what you want things to look like. But most of the time, what I've found out is people's F is finance, and and that causes a massive problem in how they do business because everything they do then is associated around making money and what their bank account says. And as long as you have enough, like you don't have to worry about that. It's the dynamic of you can only live for today. So if you have an all your bills are paid right now, you have enough, and everything's gonna work out perfectly fine. And just realize tomorrow will take care of tomorrow when it gets here. So when someone's like, Well, I don't have any spirituality, I don't have a higher power, you know, I don't have any faith whatsoever. I always say, I bet you have hope, which then faith will come to light.

Establishing Spiritual Practices

SPEAKER_01 16:58

So we start with the standard. It's like, what do you want life to look like? And a lot of time folks will be, well, I'd like to be, you know, the shape I was in 10 years ago. All right, sweet. We can I can work with that. Like we can certainly look at your nutrition, be the first thing, and then we can look at your physical fitness. Because what all of us should want is to be healthy, because what healthy allows is to give us the intangible of time, which is the greatest thing, because we have no idea how much time we get, and we're all gonna die. That is a certainty. So, in it, as we move forward, it's establishing basically it gets into those three daily wins right off the bat. And so it's like the nutrition and fitness. So mentally, like, where do you want to go? A lot of folks is like, yeah, I used to read. Okay, cool. Like, what would you like to learn about then? What would you like to read? Just pick. And it's one of those 30 minutes a day. Hey, if it's reading the newspaper and you're finally doing that again, fantastic. And then whatever that spiritual standpoint looks like, for me, what I love to get people into is a dynamic of silence. I did a silent retreat a year ago with uh the Jesuits here in DeMontreville, here in Minneapolis, Minnesota. And it was a four-day silent retreat. And the group I was with, we went like the full, like, hey, take your watch off, no talking the whole time kind of thing. You're completely immersed. You know, if you wanted to do it a little easier, softer from like 8 to 9 p.m. each night, they'd let you go in the basement and play pool and you could talk. Group I was with, we said, no, we're not doing that. And it was so amazing. The downloads that you get every day as you went into these different practices and modules that they taught, where you would just literally, that's where I finished the first book. It it was I had written about 75% of it, and over those four days that I was there, I finished it. I wrote the the last bit of it. It all just came together just like that, in that silence. And so that's what I love to get to in the spiritual practice of the spiritual inside of everybody having 30 minutes minimum a day of silence. And I know a lot of folks like it doesn't start off that way. You just start off with like five minutes and really focus on that five minutes of silence, and you'll start to pick up on like the birds that are chirping outside. For me, I live like in a you know, apartment condo setting, so you notice everything. Person like apartment down with their TV that's louder and this stuff. But in the moment, like right now, we're talking, it's it's loud, it's there's lots of different things going on, but you start to really hone in on yourself and you work on your breathing and everything else, and you really become one with yourself and that in that dynamic, it's just amazing. You'll start getting downloads, and you really start to see like what you're supposed to be doing when it comes to communicating with people. Your life just starts to just it's this dynamic of I learned this from a modern monk when I interviewed him back in November. When we're children, our lives are a window. And you know, unfortunately, between zero and six or seven, things happen in our life, you know, and it starts to cloud that window slightly. You know, you get picked on as a kid. Like I think of myself when I got glasses, you know, and everybody picking on me about having four eyes, right? It starts to cloud that mirror and excuse me, that window, and it becomes a mirror. And so all you see is the things people said about you that hurt you, right? Like four eyes, or you know, you got crooked teeth and all these different things. And for me, starting off at a young age, I just started stuffing all that stuff down. You know, I kind of got abandoned a couple times at the wrong times by my father. I think I I feared abandonment my entire life. I was always running from things that that fear where you know it stands for forget everything and run versus face everything and rise. And when we look at working with people that way, that's where the focus can really start stripping that back as we go through it. Because what you find out is as you stuff things inside, you're not kind. And you only start to focus on yourself, and you only care about yourself because everybody around you you believe is there to hurt you. That's not the case. Like most people don't want to hurt each other. It's just this dynamic is we get overly sensitive because we haven't had that brutal honesty with everybody that's in our life. Every the really deep personal people that are in your lives, be it your partner, your spouse, you know, mother, father, sister, brother, cousins, sons, daughters, all these different dynamics we just don't have honest conversations with. And that to me is where you start to see no matter what those conversations look like, you should be able to be a kind person to everybody. From that, I call it a six step method to transform our lives. This was actually my TEDx talk. And it's this dynamic of going back to the smile, because if I smile long enough. Off at you and we make eye contact. I bet you you smile back at me. And it creates this euphoric tendency inside of us to go like, if Hobby's like, I think he likes me, you know, kind of thing. And Ryan was smiling at me like he almost like me too. And and it starts to give you this going like it's not so bad. Today's not so bad. I can make it through today. And then you go into the you know, the pleases, the thank yous, is it excuse me's, the I'm sorry, and then you just repeat that all day long, and you just has this ripple effect, this butterfly effect throughout the world that in everything we do, you know, is unconditionally kind. Because if we always mirror the interactions we have in our life with others that maybe aren't operating kindness, so we just don't smile and we don't say please, we don't say thank you, we don't say excuse me, we don't say I'm sorry, and we don't continue to do that. The world's not a very kind place because that's the dynamic of it. Like we're all busy, we all have our motivation to go get what we want in this world. It's comfort at the end of the day. Humans crave comfort. That's really what we've been talking about since we started. And that's where you get into the consistency, the opportunity, and then your F, like for me, it's faith. Then it goes to my family with my two girls, the dynamics of friends. Then you can get into finance and all that stuff down, you know, but have that way, way down the list because if you have enough today, right now, everything's paid for, you have enough. And so that's the focus framework that I take every single person through. I'm just thinking about it, like we do a webinar every week, and it's really cool to see everybody at the end of it go, like, wow, that's so simple. Yeah, but if you don't have somebody go through it with you, like you're lost because you'll always fake the funk on where you're at in it. Your standard will you lower that bar to where you know you can always reach it. You'll not smile, you won't say please, you won't say thank you, you won't say excuse me, and I'm sorry. This dynamic, I'm still working with my 75-year-old father on. And um, it's just really special as you see the consistency in your life. It's a non-negotiable every single day of what that looks like to get those three daily wins in. You'll start to see opportunities in everything you do, and all you have to do is say yes. And you know, some people are like, well, that can be very scary. If I say yes to everything, like there's like unkind people out there, and people take advantage of you. And the cool thing is, like, normally there's three times that you have contact with somebody. Say you meet somebody at the grocery store, like exchange numbers or something, they're like, I'll call you. Sure, sounds good. Six months go by, they finally do call you, maybe go out for coffee, something like that. And then on the third one, maybe start working together, or you know, your kids are the same age and you go do things, or whatever it looks like. It could be personal or professional. It's this dynamic where in time and space, you just manifest every single thing through those opportunities, and it gets back to the F because it was all about that hope that you had that created the faith. And so once you have that, you'll know what to focus on in everything that you do in life. And it's just something that it works. I don't know how else to explain it.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Totally understand. And obviously, I'd say that shift from coping to confronting is definitely powerful, and obviously, sometimes often deeply uncomfortable.

Reclaiming Purpose and Asking for Help

SPEAKER_00 25:31

So if someone who is listening, they feel like they are um in the valley right now, maybe personally or professionally, what would be the first step towards reclaiming the purpose? What do you say?

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, that I mean the first thing you really have to do is one, never never give up, right? That dynamic. I I'm a big like Rocky Belboa fan from the Rocky movies back in the you know 70s and 80s. And I know they've had more since, but I'm a kind of an OG, the first five. And basically, when I look at it, it's this dynamic of you know, you have that little voice that says, you know, let's Mick. Get up, you son of a bitch, you know, because Mickey loves you. It's this dynamic of just knowing that you're not gonna quit, but you're gonna ask for help because everybody does want to help someone if you're struggling. But we have this pride and this ego. Like for me, you know, ego stands for edging God out. This dynamic where we're too prideful to ask for help, and it's so amazing today because when I'm feeling it, like I'm gonna ask for help. You know, this dynamic of, you know, please pray for me, please. You know, like know that I struggle too. It might sound like I have it all figured out, and you know, I'm extremely successful in this dynamic. I still have my own limiting beliefs. You know, when I get up and I'm not feeling like going to the gym, you know, I have those. And I do 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and I get up, get out of bed, and I go to the gym. But that takes many, many days to get there. You got to keep putting those reps in. And so if you're in that valley right now, know that you're not giving up. It's just today, it's just right now. This isn't gonna last forever. Go call. You got one person that that you can ask for help, whatever that looks like. And I know it's so hard. I know it's so hard to ask for help. I've seen it, you know, in entrepreneurship here. You know, it's the scariest thing you'll ever do is run your own company, run your own business, right? Where like, especially once you start having employees and it's all on you to make sure that they keep getting paid. You know, it's one thing, like, I can go many days without eating, right? Like I've learned that in my military experience, this dynamic. You can't you can go 40 days without eating, you know, you can only go three without water. But it's this, you know, what about those that you're supposed to be providing for, those that you're supposed to be protecting as the as the boss, right? And this this side of it. So so know that you got somebody out there that asked for help, ask for it. And you know, if you hear this right now, like my phone number, you know, plus one here in the United States, 360-951-2. You can call me any single time. I I get like some folks, like 988, you know, here for for help. This is scary. And you can either hear me or see me right now, like I said. So plus one, 360-951-9202. Just I'm here to listen. I'm here, you know, to just be a sounding board and know that it's this dynamic of we need each other. We are so much stronger together. And that that's what the military was all about. This battle buddy, you always at a minimum went somewhere with your battle buddy. I lived by that with my two girls. It was so funny to hear them talk about you'd let us do this, this, and this and this, if like, as long as we went everywhere together. And I was like, I was like, yeah, because we're stronger together. And you know, the dynamic of like, even as little people, no one's no one's gonna nab you if there's two of you together, kind of thing. It makes it that much harder. So it's the same for us

The Importance of Battle Buddies

SPEAKER_01 29:04

as we get older. You you gotta have your battle buddies. And if you don't have a battle buddy, you don't believe you have a battle buddy, like I said, I'll be your battle buddy right now, and uh you know, just reach out, ask for help.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Amazing. So uh for someone who is um listening right now and they want to connect with you, how can they connect?

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah, a number of different ways. Our Protector Development.com or RyanTRikert.com or two of the hubs. You can certainly get plugged in any which way under the sun. We have a lot of free resources. We have a five-minute morning reset that you know gets everybody going. Literally takes five minutes of your morning to get yourself right, put you know the armor of the Lord on and get after it. That's one thing that I realized when I wasn't in the military anymore, you know, downrange, you put your helmet on, you put your vest on, grab your weapon, and so on and so forth, and you felt protected. Well, for me, I guess I didn't realize that you still needed to protect yourself in corporate America or you know, your personal life, whatever that can look like. And so that's what this five-minute morning reset does. It kind of you know clears the mechanism, and then basically you armor up for the day, knowing that you're gonna battle some stuff that none of us wanna have that. We either have the boss possibly that we just don't align with, or we have the coworker, or maybe have a subordinate on the team, whatever that looks like, family member that you know you can love them from afar, right? This dynamic of, you know, you don't you don't say if the enemy doesn't see you, don't engage the enemy. This dynamic of sometimes like we're always looking for a fight, and you don't. You need to surrender it and allow if that fight's supposed to come to you, it will come to you, but you don't need to engage in it until it does. And that's all about like the pause and understanding halt and hot, you know, where it's halt's emotions, right? Hungry, angry, lonely, tired. If you have any one of those four emotions, you don't engage, and then hot is let's see, I wrote it down. It's uh honest, open, and transparent in all your communications. So you should have a lot of hot communication every single day, and it's honest, open, and transparent. So then you're not having to clean up your side of the street, because I believe, you know, even if you're like a little white lie is not gonna hurt nothing, man, that'll turn into like the abominable snowman by the time it gets, you know, picking up traction on like what did I say? Yeah, I said, you know, I said this. Well, I what I meant was this, and then it's like even bigger, it's even worse, and then you a week later it's turned into this ugly thing. And so yeah, just think about halt and hot when you're having some communication with folks, and where do you feel, right? These feelings that we have can end up really creating a lot of struggle for us. And um I think the the biggest thing is we all want to be heard, and that and that's kind of what ends up happening is we we believe being heard is using this more than than these two. And you know, God gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason. We should close our mouth more and open our ears so we can really listen to those around us because they're telling us what they're going through. So if you can kind of take the time to listen to them, it makes it a lot easier for everybody. And um, at the end of the day, you really go. Sweet. I get I get what Ryan's saying. So that dynamic, yeah, head on over to our protectordevelopment.com or Ryan TRikert.com. That's the same for social media. And yeah, I'd love just uh connect and have meaningful conversations just like we've done today.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Amazing. So, dear listeners, what I'll do is I'll put all the links and the details into the show notes for easy reference. And I'd say that technology evolves, right? So and market will also fluctuate, rules change, but the inner work, the courage to face that pain and reclaim the purpose remains timeless. And here on Mind Meets Machine, we explore not just the performance but also the transformation as well. If this conversation resonated with you, please share it with someone who may be um walking through their own valley, right? So this hope until next time this is your host awake and this is Mind Meets Machine. Do not avoid the hard part. It may be it may be shaping you who you are made to become so thank you so much. Thank you.