SPEAKER_02 0:09

Hey, hello everybody, and welcome to a new episode of Walking the Way with Dr. Carlos Quijada. And this is a segment where we talk about life and how we can uh overcome the different challenges that we experience as human beings. Uh, we we all been there uh times when things seem uncertain as we uh uh been seeing in the last few weeks, those moments where God appears to be silent when things just don't make sense. And one of the great things is that we have a manual called the Bible that leads us into making the right decisions and to be able to cope with those challenges. Um today it's a very special segment because for the first time in the history of this podcast, I am accompanied by a guest. And uh what what a blessing to have here with me, uh Pastor Jimmy, who uh not only the founding and senior pastor of Last Chance Ministries, but also uh a very, very close friend of mine, uh maybe my closest friend after the Lord and and um uh a father figure and a mentor, and uh we we're we're a lot of things. And uh I I I'm so blessed to have you here with us and and to share about faith in real life.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Amen. How are you doing? Doing great, Pastor. What a blessing to have me here, man. So uh been a long time coming. I know we meet all the time, but to to be here in one of your uh you know the segments here is uh it's a blessing. Thank you for the invitation.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Yes, yes, of course. You're welcome. Thank you for for being here. And uh like like I was saying, the last few weeks I've been sharing some thoughts on uh how faith looks like in real life. And uh I I remember when you and I first connected, it's almost eight years ago, uh over there at a diner in New York in Times Square to be more specific. And um at the time I was in a season of uh making a big decision, I was struggling with my faith. I was waiting for plan A or B to settle in. And then you came along and you share some of your struggles and like your story on how from not seeing what was coming, you still believed in God. And I was like, you know, that's the story that I needed to hear. So I don't know if you remember all the conversations that we had.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

I sure do, man. It was a tremendous blessing where you know how how losing everything and then still standing, still uh encouraging people, telling people to get up when I didn't feel like getting up, or God would provide when He really wasn't even providing for me. You know, as you know, we lost our house, lost our cars, and yeah, and um I I always say that when you take your focus off yourself and focus on others, that's when God steps in, man. So yeah, it was a blessing to share that testimony with you, like a like a job. You know, it's a long testimony, but losing my house, losing everything, and uh and then three and a half years later getting the phone call that the the per the person that purchased my house never put it under his name and wanted to know if I want my house back. And who in the world ever hears a uh story? But it's it it is it is faith. It's it what I call this, I call it a sustainable faith. Yeah. Sustainable faith that if it doesn't happen tomorrow or the year after, and you if you have the sustainable faith knowing that God's promises are are his yeses or his yes, and and and I believe that because I had the sustainable faith, you know, God saw my faithfulness and he had to strip me naked from everything. Yeah, and still standing, still praising, and still lifting up my hands and still showing up when sometimes I feel like showing up, that's when that's when God just blessed me double for my trouble. And and I got my house back, man. I got my house back, and yeah, like a like a joke story, like God blessed me double for my trouble. So if there's anyone here going through some trouble, man, you gotta keep on having that faith and trusting God, you know.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

And you know, uh, Pastor, we we we're both pastors and and we teach the word of God every week. And um those of you who are watching that might be pastors or leaders, you can relate to this. There's so many stories in the Bible, and and there's so many things that we can know about and and have all this theology, all this education and and knowledge. Um but when you get to put it into practice, that's when it really comes to life. Uh, because like you said, we like we sometimes we read about people like Job. Um he overnight pretty much he lost not just material things, he lost all his children. Yeah, uh, he lost the respect of his wife, he lost his health, so many losses one after the other that that he spent a long time not making sense. And we read about these things sometimes in Sunday school, but when you get to live it, it's so different. And I know just to give a little background, um uh you you share your testimony of how you got saved, and then what how can you share about that? Like when you got saved and what were you doing afterwards after you were on fire with divorce?

SPEAKER_00 5:35

So yeah, it was in 2005. Yeah, father, my father-in-law invited me to a retreat. Yeah, didn't want to really go, but you know having a having a a a job thinking I was I was okay, great father, great husband, but I was living a double life. Uh the other life I was living as a as a cocaine drug dealer. Yeah. And so going to this ret going to the retreat, I really didn't want to go. But anyways, I went to the retreat and I went with I went some I went with cocaine in my in my luggage. And I always say, man, how God allows you to do what you gotta do, but He has a plan for you, right? Yeah. And going to the retreat, I experienced something amazing that changed my life forever, and didn't know nothing about the Holy Spirit or anything. Anyways, uh I saw a little skit that changed my life forever. But I went back to my room, flushed the cocaine down the toilet, and and here I am, 20 years, I celebrated 20 years this December of my salvation. And um coming back from the retreat on fire, man. Like I said, man, there's no way anyone should have to wait to experience what I experienced a whole year to go to retreat. Yeah. So with within weeks, man, I was already on Sarazomoda and Popular in a vacant lot, didn't know who it belonged to, holding a sign saying you need a hug, need prayer. When I was really the one that needed a hug in prayer because I didn't know nothing about preaching or nothing. I just wanted to tell someone about the love of God, man. So you were just raw out there, just sharing. No school, no nothing, didn't know nothing about Jesus, never went to the church. It just I didn't know nothing about the Holy Spirit. I don't know what happened, but I just know that something happened. And when I came back, I came like I came back singing my theme song was How Great Is Our God. Yeah. And look at that, we we live that, man. How great is our God, right? And and anyways, man, so from the streets, three and a half years, man, preaching the gospel and three and a half years, learning, taking myself there. I always say you can't take someone somewhere you haven't been yourself. And I had to take myself there and just keep on, you know. And and during that time, on fire for the Lord, I wasn't doing drugs anymore, I still have a job. And that's when I went really, really behind on my my mortgage and my cars, and my cars got taken away, my house got taken away, and I ended up living with my wife's grandmother in a room of eight by ten and and hearing people like he's all there preaching to the prostitutes and the heroin addicts and the gang members, and yet he's losing it all. Like, where's his God? And man, hearing all these things was was difficult to for someone that is what is brand new, and you can imagine, yeah. And I I didn't have no what you call spiritual father, I didn't have no one guiding me. It was just the this I know now that the Holy Spirit would really was just you know, uh from assault to Paul and and uh just standing strong throughout all that, man. And there was points like the story of Job where my wife was like, you know, just in other words, go sell one more time and let's just get back on track. And I had to catch up a little bit. Let's catch up a little bit. And I had to tell her no, like just like Job. No, I go, should we praise him only when things are going well? Or we praise them when we when things are not going well, when we have it, when we don't have it. And because I held on tight, man, for three and a half years was once one of those most difficult times of my life of seeing everything get stripped away from me. Houses, cars, and when I had it all, everything was taken away from me. And to be still standing there with with uh like you think about Joshua before they cross over the Jordan, like circumcised, and can you still stand there in pain and bleeding and still lift up your hands and praise the name of Jesus? And and and because of my faithfulness, man, it was a long time coming. I you know, I get that phone call uh that from this guy that wants to give me my house back, which was unheard of. Remember my wife telling me, can this really, really be true? That's what the Bible says. Yeah, yeah. You just gotta have to faith have faith. And um, anyways, we're back at our house, and we we eventually got an old Bells Baum building that is now called the Impact Center, and uh that what that became our church for two years, and then we we moved in to where we're at now at the old food stamp's office, how God makes a big circle and the old attorney general's office. And and and I remember reporting to the food stamps office to when when we when we had lost it all, I ended up in line getting I was embarrassed to go in there, but I went in there. I still have my card, it's stuck, it's called the Lone Star card. Yeah. If anyone's received low uh food stamps, you know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. That's why I'm like, don't don't get rid of that card because eventually we ended up, you know, owning the very food stamps office that we used to go and report to get food, and then we ended up owning the uh the attorney general's office. Man, I reported to both of them. Yeah. Wow. And here we are, uh, you know, not only did it give out physical food at one time, but now we're not only doing physical food as well, but we're giving out spiritual food. Yes. And we we've been there almost what 14 years or so, uh believe like 2014 or something.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

You know something uh uh about what you shared, uh because you you went to that retreat and and a lot of people experience this high. Um I I I've been there myself when you go to a retreat and you come all encouraged and on fire. And it reminds me of that parable of the the seeds that they were different uh seeds that fell on different grounds. Yeah, different grounds, and uh uh and there was one that they they received the word with excitement and then the problems come, and it's like that seed that falls into thorns, and and then they let those problems overcome.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

But um the cares of the world, man. Yeah, it it entangles them. And even when when you when you leave excited for a moment, I've I've I've I've heard people many times, Jesus, real loud, man, excited, man. Praise God for that. But then all of a sudden you you hear the Jesus. They're in the front row, middle row, last row, and they're out. And I see it happening many times because that the their your surroundings, yeah, and and keep on doing what you what you want to do, not aligning with the will of God and really not having faith to really believe that, man, even though sometimes you think about your life and said, I never had it as difficult as I have it now. Yeah, but maybe I shouldn't never give my life to Jesus because when I didn't have Christ in my life, I was living a better life. But now that I'm in Christ, I'm losing things. But little people know that the devil already had you, so you weren't going through things. But now that you have given your life to Jesus, man, the devil has changed his mind, and now he's coming back for you, trying to bring you back, and and and he succeeds so well with so many people because of their lack of faith, or they just don't put it into action. That's it. Did that thought cross your mind when you came to the Lord and now you're serving, you're doing saving these people from the darkness, and now you know what it came to a lot of other people's minds to the point where I would hear it like how how could you like just stand there and allow everybody, you know, allow your family to go through what they're going through. And yeah, and and it would it would trigger my mind. But like Paul, man, if I if I let that snake stay there and let that poison kill me, or I can shake it off into the fire, man. I and every time I would hear something negative or people just talking, I would just shake it off and I say, man, uh and because it'll cross your mind, man. And if you allow it to, it'll mess you up. And then there you go, there you are, man. You're just like and and and speaking about you know feeling like that high when you give your life to Christ, man, is it's to maintain that fire, man. You gotta it's it's a daily, daily examination of your life and checking yourself, like because that you surround yourself with some people that are negative and and uh pulling you away from the things of the Lord, that then your fire starts to go down, and you become uh nothing nothing but the smoke, man, and uh you become a man of nothing but hot air, you know?

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I I've seen a lot too. Um people that for for a season they're on fire, and then uh sometimes it's sudden, sometimes it is just gradual. Um and and maybe there's people that they were like, man, I I I remember a time when I was on fire for for God, and and my life was you know, things were were moving along, but then something hit me, and now uh I I feel like my faith is just dying out. Um when you were going and I know it has gone up and down, you you recover your house, then other moments of crisis hit. What what has kept you uh what has helped you stay uh uh with your faith?

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Just me get just giving me getting my house back was something that my faith really elevated to the point where like, man, who in the who in the world would ever experience losing a house to foreclosure? Yeah, and then three and a half years later having someone call you that you're gonna get your house back. That's when it really, really started, really changed my whole life. It's like, wow, God is real. Like because that's something that is unheard of. That's something that that he had to strip me naked from everything to see if I would still stand. That's the problem with a lot of people that when things get taken away, they're instead of running to Jesus, they run to the drugs, drunk to addictions, drunk, they run to alcohol, run to you know, doubt and weariness. And and what kept me going is is that, and then one thing after another, one thing after another, where where when that happened, my faith increased so much that I that I started having these visions of doing events and doing this. And you know, you were there when we did the Animal Dome. That's that's unheard of, man. Yeah, you know, and and look at what God did. And then just miracles after miracles that uh allowed me to continue to stand so and it was all a part of God's plan because he knew what was eventually gonna happen to my life. Yeah, and and uh we'll get to that whenever you're ready for that. But that's something that was was tragic, and and that's where we're back to Job, it's like uh, you know, let me go in there, and God says, just just don't do nothing to him, like and you can take away what you want to take away. And because I know that you have a hedge of protection, and and even though not nothing happens without passing through the hand of God, and even if it doesn't make sense, yeah, you know, some people will just blame God, and I learned how not to blame God and how to just tell people, like, you know, encouraging people uh to keep on having that faith and believing that God has a plan for you, not to harm you, but to prosper you.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

So, you know, yeah, and you know, one thing that um helps me, and I was actually I was sharing that with a group of people this week, that when we go through those difficult times, remind ourselves God chose me for this, and He knows He He knows me well enough to be aware of what I can um uh resist or what what I can I'm able to handle. Um But but yeah, like you mentioned, there was something that that happened, and um if if you're ready to share, because um this was something that I remember when I you first shared with me, it was like man, like like you know, this man has really been through through things and and that it has inspired, I mean, not just me, a lot of people in their faith. So uh we start to share.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

So you you talked earlier about ups and downs, ups and downs, and uh every time when when when when people give their life to Jesus, man, it's like a high, like man, it's exciting. Yeah, but then all of a sudden life hits to the point where you feel like an eagle for a moment, and then life reality hits, uh, and then now you're going down, like you know, like wow, it feels so good, but man, I'm losing everything now. And then and you're coming down, and then all of a sudden, you know, God shows up and then you're back up, and then uh and I was I remember that that one time where I was actually um in the process of writing a book, it was called One More Round. And I was talking about round one, round two, round three, and round four, and so forth, and then each round had a had a bell, and it had round one under I was talking about my life, and round five began to start talking about grace, and then round eight was new beginnings and nine, deliverance, and so forth. Right when I was on the 12th round, man, it was like you never you never get to the point where you think you arrived. And round 12, it was like with my hands lifted up, got the victory, and and uh and then reality hit because on Sunday of September 4th, 2016, I preached a message. What you're talking about is that it's dang the danger of staying behind. That because when even when you're w praising God and stuff, and then life hits you, yeah, you can stay behind, and then life goes on without you, it with or without you. Yeah, and I go, the danger of staying behind when you get hit with cancer or you get hit with a divorce, or or you lose your house, and and it's dangerous. And I remember that one day when I came off the altar and I said, I'll take it a step further. They goes, uh, I'll I'll let everyone know here that even if I would lose a child, I will still praise God. Well, you know, that was on a Sunday, September 4th, September 6th. My daughter Victoria, uh, her she came to my room saying, if I can go to the coast. And uh I said yes, which I never really say yes. So she was all excited, she's like my boyfriend, my boyfriend's sister, my boyfriend's sister's two kids, they're homeless, and I want to take them to the coast, they've never been there. And I let her use my suburban because her car was in the shop. Yeah. Make a long story short, I told her, make sure you come back the same day. So she took off, she was really excited, and about midnight, I gave her a call and she's I said, Where are you at? Uh I will call her Tori. Uh she said, I'm about 30 minutes away, Dad. I'm on 37 and 410. I said, Okay, I'll wait for you here. Well, 12:30, 1:30, 2:30 came around. I was texting her, just no more response. 3 o'clock, 5 o'clock. It wasn't until 6 in the morning when my son's like, Dad, I think something happened with Tori. I said, What happened? I was still awake. I was really worried about her. Well, then I saw on the news there was a tragic accident, and the tragic accident was about this young lady and two little boys. I believe it was five, five and seven-year-olds. A young lady and two year two little boys got ejected and killed in a tragic car accident. And it and it was it was my daughter's suburban. There wasn't one lady that was alive and a young man, and I and I was praying that it was my daughter, and her boyfriend was, you know, but uh it wasn't until noontime when the chief of police came knocking on my door and gave me that knot that it was my daughter, Victoria, that had passed away, and the and the two little boys got killed as well instantly. Yeah. Man, that's where that's where that's where your faith kicks in. That's where you're that's where, like, man, losing a father and a mother is tough. You know, you lost a dad, I lost my father. Yeah, but and as I know it's it's tough for us, but when you lose your own child, that's something uh and I called it a pain you can't explain as I preached that message the following week. So, anyways, it was like like the enemy tapping me up tapping me on my shoulder and asking me, like, like, where's your God now? Like the danger of staying behind. I just preached about that two days ago. Yeah, yeah. And uh, man, it was real difficult for me because that Saturday and that Sunday, you know, over a thousand people just showing up to the church with support and the whole city and and to stand there. I remember going up there with a baseball bat to the altar, and and uh a lot of pastors are telling me just take time, just I know it's hard, but man, I know that if that if if the enemy can take take me out, yeah, then he'll take my family out. And then he'll take the congregation out, the community, the city. And there's so many things that that if I didn't continue to stand, yeah, would have affected a lot of people. So I remember crying and crying on that uh in that bathroom before I went to go preach on Sunday because I had I did my daughter's funeral you know at the at our church. Yeah, her casket was right in front of me. I mean, what pastor can preach a sermon with your daughters right there? It's yeah, it's it was really hard. And I remember crying and crying, and I remember God specifically telling me, wipe your tears, you got a job to do. And I grabbed a baseball bat, went up to the altar, and I felt at that moment where the where the where the devil was on his behind, you know, screeching with his heels, not expecting me to show up, saying, What in the world are you doing here? And I remember saying, You mess with the wrong guy, man. And as hard as I got hit, felt like I got hit with a baseball bat. That's why I carried the baseball bat, because in in life, you will get hit. Yeah, but man, you gotta hit back. And ever since then, man, I know my daughter's been, you know, she's been gone for 10 years, since 2016. But my like I always say, a seed in your hand, it's only a seed, but when the seed falls to the ground and dies, it produces fruit. And hundreds and hundreds and thousands of people have given their life to Jesus because of my daughter's death, because because I'm able to speak the way I'm speaking and continue to stand the way I'm standing. And and at the end of all, uh people know that man, that hat that has to be God because what person can stand after a being Hit like that. I understand the house and stuff, and some people would have quit there, but man, losing a child. And I had a lot of pastors tell me, I don't know if I can continue. I don't know if I would continue. So I think I think be able to encourage a lot of people and letting them know about Jesus that if but if if it hadn't been for the Lord, man, I wouldn't be where I'm at. So praise God that because of her death, we started that victory learning, you know, giving young uh victory learning, victory, uh, a scholarship for young girls to get the high school diploma, the victory victorious, you know, tiny homes, and we moved to the retreat and started the Victorious Women's Fellowship. And and and anyways, and I've done so many, so many funerals, hundreds of funerals on tragic accidents and and with parents losing child, and and I give them a customized bat to say it's victorious, because they gotta remember that we are victorious, man. And even though something tragic like that happened, you know, we I always said either I could die with my daughter or I can live for her. And I decided to live, man. And and I pray that anyone that is watching that if you feel spiritually dead or you're losing things to have faith, to continue to trust God, that in and do not grow weary in due season, man. Yeah, and uh here I am. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Praise God. And and and I appreciate you you sharing that uh because one of the things that we see that you you're I mean, you're a human being. I mean, we we're humans obviously, and and we do experience pain, we experience moments of happiness, moments of sadness. Uh and and and it's okay. I mean, I know some people be like, you know, I I can't be sad, but it's okay to to cry, it's okay to to feel sad. Now the the difference maker is uh are you gonna quit? Right? And and and one thing that stands out in what you're sharing is that you you didn't quit, even though you were feeling in a certain way, yeah. And and you got to see the fruit of that. Because, like you said, in those three something years, you had lost your house. I mean, three years is is it's a long time. When you're in the middle of it, you might feel that, you know, when is this gonna change? Um, then God does a miracle. Um some year, sometime later, the the situation with your daughter and uh which I I agree with you. I mean a lot of people would just give up. Yeah, but you just didn't quit because of uh faith and and and here we are seeing the the fruit of that.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

Yeah, it's a it's a it's a blessing, and and and to to be able to still be standing and continue to encourage others and and keep on moving it. I mean it's not easy, right? It's not easy, but still like yeah, you know, great things have happened, man. Great things have happened through the tragedy. And if you hang on tight, right around the corner, man, there's a blessing. And you know, I was able to write that book, uh, a book called Indescribable Pain, yes, that has helped a lot of people, and and and that's what it's all about, man. Like if you really, really trust God and and uh lean on your own understanding because man, that you know, if you do that, you know, you won't make it. Right. You lean on Jesus, man, especially in those tough times, that's where God will get you through. It's like you know, this it's like that picture of Jesus with the feet on the sand. Yeah. And you sometimes you figure out wonder, like, man, where are you at? It's not that he's not there, is it he's the one that's carrying you, man. He's carried me through a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

So so so by the way, that book that uh he's mentioning, it's it's a book that it's available in English and Spanish, and it tells in more detail your story. Yeah. Uh can you tell us how can people uh obtain this book?

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Uh yeah. Well, they can they can contact me uh as well, or go to the LCM documentary page or call the office, or just you know, just let us know how I can send you the book, or girl, you can go to 404 Brady Boulevard. We have all their books there on our cafe and and uh you can read it. It's uh it's it is English and Spanish. It's it's a small book, but it tells you the story about when where I first started and and to where I lost my my daughter and all the way to uh and everything has scripture, man. It's a it's a blessing. Yeah and at the same time, the last chapter is about because it was I was writing the book during COVID. So the last chapter is about COVID. So it's not about just people losing children, it's about uh um, you know, in in tragic accidents. It's also a lot of people lost people in COVID, and a lot of people, uh pastors are some of them just got stuck, man. They they really can't really come back. And if they read this book, man, it'll really, really encourage other, not just families, but pastors on how you can how you can continue to stand and how can you still show up even when you don't want to show up. Because the thing is, is if if the battle's God's, then why show up? Because you don't have to fight because the battle's God. But the thing is he needs your participation because if you you still gotta show up, even if you don't want to show up, and showing up it speaks volumes of that because the enemy is like, man, what is this guy doing? It's like when I went when I showed up and I did my daughter's funeral, you know, and preaching with with my daughter's casket right in front of me, like, man, who in the world's gonna show up to something like that? But but you know, I I showed up, and when I showed up, you know, give the devil a black eye, man. It's like, man, wondering. So the the thing is, is uh you through all your trials and tribulations, man, you you you you you get stronger and stronger and stronger. And from day one, like you asked me earlier, like, how do you keep on having that faith? It's because God keeps on showing up. And as long as God keeps on showing up, man, and and even when he doesn't show up, you and as long as you keep on praising God, that's when um you know he gets all the glory. And man, if if it would have happened in the very beginning, losing my daughter, I don't think I will be here. But how God prepared me, he knows the end from the beginning. And and if I would have known what would have happened, how many, maybe I would have never stepped into my calling. But God doesn't show you what you're about to step into. This is where you walk by faith and not by sight. And when you walk in, man, just trusting God, holding on to the hand of God, you can walk around with fear, but knowing that you're you're holding on to the hand of God, you can walk around with confidence, right? And and that's how I walk. I walk with confidence. I walk knowing that, man, uh, you know, I've I've been I've been through a lot. Yeah, I don't want to lose another child. You know, I still got my other kids, but you know, and continue to pray for I continue to pray for my wife too. And she's, you know, for three years, man, she was like paralyzed spiritually. Because that can really losing a child making really knock you out. And and um thank God that she had someone like myself to be able to encourage her because two people I know families that have lost children that the husband is lost, the wife's lost, ain't nobody, ain't nobody encouraging. So God put him a heart to start this program, remember your angels, and we've done events for that and bringing in lots and lots of families that have lost children, and it's it's helped a lot of people in our city to the point where they're not alone. Like, yeah, you know, how when you lose a child, you you you you gotta you nobody was there for me to help me, like, hey, you're gonna go to the cemetery, you're gonna pick out the slot, you're gonna go to this place, you're gonna pick out the casket, start picking out a car. That was the toughest thing. And now I can help other families and guide them, listen, this is what's next, and this is how it's gonna happen. And this and and no, it's never gonna be all right. And I know people are telling me, well, what do I tell them? I go, just don't say nothing because their life is totally different, right? Everything changes. They don't want to be around all these parties and gatherings. It takes time. You know, we didn't really want to be around anyone like because we didn't want to bring our sadness to other families. Yeah, you know, what what can you tell someone that lost a child? Some people say, just stop crying, just let them go. You know, uh it's a child of yours. It's not a dad, a dad and a mother is it's it's not it's not like it's not the same.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Little pet, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

Yeah, and some people just don't know what to say, man. I was like, just don't say nothing at all because you know, this is something that let let them grieve, man. Let them, you know. Yeah, uh, but at the same time, I I do encourage families to uh to continue to keep on moving, even if you have to crawl, just don't stop.

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Don't don't don't quit. Don't quit. And and you know, um something that that that you said, um, and and we're gonna be closing uh for today, but I I just want to point out about showing up. And because our our tendency uh as as human beings is that when things get hard, we want to run away. We wanna get on a plane, take a bolt, whatever, just run away. But God invites us to show up even when it's uncomfortable. And I'm reminded of you know, when Jesus promised the Holy Spirit, he he called him the comforter. And and for us to experience the power of God, like like you have experienced, we need to get uncomfortable so that we can really uh feel, experience the comforter in our lives and and and live his power and see God work miracles. When when things are easy, when things are are going in our favor, uh it's it's very easy to be like, you know, uh I believe in God and all, but when when we are challenged with things that just seem impossible, like losing a child or losing losing things that you feel that you can't live without, that's when you experience God's power and that all we need, or the one we need is God in our lives. We can lose it all, but let us never lose Him because He is the one that sustains us no matter what we go through. And uh and I appreciate you you sharing that um with us. I and I I pray this is we gotta do a part two, man. Yeah, we gotta do a part two for sure. And uh um and and and I and I thank all of you for watching. If this has impacted your life, I I pray that not only you meditate on these things, but you share with some people that may be going through stuff that are really testing their faith. I I know it's it's gonna be a blessing to many. Uh, if you have any comments, um, any questions, please comment below. We'd love to hear your story. And if you're interested in getting Pastor Jimmy's book, they can email you or email me. You can you can contact me. Uh maybe you don't live in San Antonio. Uh, we can mail it to you. Yeah, just reach out. You won't want to miss this story. I read it myself and it blessed my life. It doesn't matter, maybe you didn't haven't lost a child, but we can all relate to the fact that in life we go through losses. And and this man's uh testimony, it's very inspiring. So, and of course, if you're in the city, uh visit last chance and and you can get it there and also receive a word from the Lord. So, thank you, Pastor, for thank you, Pastor Carles, for joining me today. Pastor Carles. Pastor Doctor. I'm proud of you, man. Thank you. Thank you, thank you so much, and and God bless everybody. And until next time here, uh Walking the Way with Dr. Carlos Quijada. God bless