Stop Blaming Yourself. It's Your Health Routine Not Working for You.

High-achieving women are some of the most disciplined people on the planet — at work, for their families, in every area except one: themselves.

I’m speaking with Ariel Hoffman, a Los Angeles-based Master Trainer and holistic wellness coach who has spent nearly two decades asking a different question — not “why can’t you stick to it?” but “why is the system not working for you?” This is a conversation about energy, consistency, and what sustainable strength actually looks like in a real, busy life.

A practical, science-backed conversation about why high-achieving women keep losing their energy, falling off their routines, and starting over — and the real system-level shifts that create lasting strength, consistent habits, and a body that actually works with your life.

Ariel Hoffman is a Certified National Academy of Sports Medicine Trainer, Certified Health Coach, Certified Primal Health Coach, Pre & Post Natal Specialist, and founder of Ariel Hoffman Wellness. 

With nearly two decades of experience transforming high-achieving women, executives, and working mothers, Ariel brings a hybrid of nutrition coaching, customized fitness, and sustainable lifestyle strategy — rooted in the science of how real bodies actually work.

Episode Timeline

3:52           Key observations about professional women  

5:47           What clients really want, body fixes vs. feelings

6:56           The transformation sequence: feel → see → sustain

9:37           Why high-performing women lose their energy

12:44          The "Yes for everyone else" trap

13:36          Why habits fall apart — misalignment explained

14:41          Building a baseline vs. chasing the perfect week

17:54          Understanding your own energy — what depletes vs. fuels you

18:56          Cyclical energy, hormones, cortisol

19:54          Tips for listening to your body

20:46          Motivation is a myth — implementation is everything

24:26          Design for the hard week, not the perfect week

25:39          Energy crashes & brain fog, nutrition science

27:06          The three levers: nutrition, movement, lifestyle

27:48          Managing indulgences, the replace vs. restrict method

29:39          Substitution over restriction (kids, screens, habits)

30:24          Women over 40, body changes & what actually works

33:28          Stopping the fight with your body

34:14          Ariel's approach: gentle but deliberate

CONTACT ARIELLE HOFFMAN

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariel-hoffman-59229860/

WEBSITE: https://www.wellxariel.com/

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/wellxarielhoffman/ 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You're just unfinished, not depressed. This is the podcast for leaders, high achievers, and entrepreneurs who have built impressive lives on the outside and yet sense something is dying on the inside. If you ever stared at everything you have accomplished and felt strangely empty, this show is for you. When I think about our guest, I think about the song Define Gravity from the movie Wicked. Our guest, Ariel Hoffman, based in Los Angeles, she talks about how a strength is not a size, it's a practice. And she shares with us about how do we generate and maintain higher energy and enjoyment in our daily lives. She will tell us about why so many high-achieving women lose their energy, fall off their routines, and start over. And the real system shift that can help us create lasting strength, consistent habits, and a body that actually works in our lives. Let's welcome Ariel and begin our discussion.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Thank you for having me. I'm really excited to have this conversation. I actually live in one of the suburbs of LA. And so I'm in a quieter part of town. I'm not in the city. I lived in New York City for 14 years, which was pure city life, which I loved. But now with kids, it's just it's nice to have access to really pretty parks. And I'm at the playground a lot. So we have a six-year-old and two-year-old. And so we're at the playground a lot. But yes, I do have my favorite coffee shop. There's a French bakery that is close by that I love, and my kids love it. They've actually known my kids since they were both of them serve babies. I'm like a regular because I really believe in finding good quality things. So if I'm gonna go for croissant, I gotta find best croissant. It's gotta be real. So that's that place. We go on a lot of bike rides, we go on a lot of hikes. Hiking is just outside our door. I literally have a trail five minutes from here. I need more massages. There is a place I'm looking into. Yeah, I definitely need more of those in my life. I love how you mentioned that. It's just a good reminder of what I need to incorporate into my life. Yeah, those are the major jaunts.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

Wonderful, wonderful. Let me ask you a question. So I remember a while ago I was in a gathering on the somebody, the teenage daughter of a friend says, Artist, now that you're a therapist psychologist, so do you analyze everybody you talk to, even in family gathering? I was startled. I was thinking, no, I don't. But I notice things. I notice people's emotions. Are they present? Are they happy? Doesn't mean I analyze, but I notice things, including myself. Am I showing up? Am I with my spouse, with my son, and so on? But given your expertise, and I already love that you say that you pay attention whether what you do or food you eat, it's gotta be real. So as you see people in your community, in your sphere, what do you notice? What grabs your attention?

SPEAKER_00 4:04

First of all, I've never been asked that question, and I love that you asked that question because the truth is I do the same thing, right? I think when you're in a profession, you naturally pick up on things. So yeah, I don't analyze, I don't judge anyone, but I oftentimes I pick up on the things I hear other women say. What are they talking about? How are they talking about their exercise? How are they talking about the diet that they're on? So I notice the language that they use towards themselves, and I notice that's very relatable because I used to say very similar things to myself. And it's just very interesting, right? To see how many women are affected by the culture and the messaging that we've been exposed to over the last 20 plus years, especially in diet and exercise culture. And yeah, so I I really do pick up on that.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

That's why. And I don't always come in, I don't always say anything, but I absolutely so in a culture that when I go to our dentist's office and I still see people magazine and a lot of that, everybody looks great. They have great teeth, great body, great hair. But then I look at people sitting in the doctor's office or dentist's office, nobody looks like that. So what are those women when you work with them? What are some of their wishes, complaints, or things that they come to you and says, Ariel, help me with what?

SPEAKER_00 5:47

So typically women will come to me with very uh similar requests in terms of body image and body body fixes, right? I want to lose my belly fat. I want the body I had before I had kids, I want my arms to look better. It's very look focused, visual focused, which again I understand. And I don't think it's bad. I think we all to some degree want to look good. However, looking good is different for different people, right? Different cultures. What looks good to me won't look good to my friend, right? We're not all the same. Yeah, so that's usually the first thing they say, right? I want to lose weight, I want better arms, they go to all that. And my line of questioning usually gets to why they want to change in the first place. What is it you're really after? If you're 42, what is it that you really want to feel like? And so I dive into the feeling of what it is they really want in terms of feeling. And then I usually end with if you did feel that way, what would happen next? What would you do if you felt like what you just said you want? And just to fast forward, what typically happens is we end up working together. And the first change that always happens isn't necessarily weight loss. It can be, but if we've been working together for a couple of weeks and they've just started a new routine, they usually tell me how different they're feeling. And so I dig deep on that and I say, Great, you're feeling better. How are you feeling better? Is your energy better? Do you want your energy to get even better or improve it even more? Oh, I can walk up the stairs with feet feeling less winded, or that hike wasn't as hard, or I feel like I can run after my kids. I'm like, oh, interesting. Okay. And then we continue to work together. And then about the three-month mark, usually, is when someone will say, Oh, yeah, my colleagues said I'm starting, I look really good. And I'm saying, that's really interesting. How do you feel about that? And they say, I do feel like my arms look a little better, and I feel stronger. And they're going after the feeling. And what I'm saying, the feeling will come first, and the look, the physical change will happen later.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

And sometimes that happens fast, and sometimes it happens slower. It just depends on the person. And then six months down the line, it's a total transformation.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

They also see the transformation. So it's now not just other people noticing that they're changing, it's then they feel the transformation and they feel the transformation, they're seeing the transformation, then maybe they can go buy new clothes. Um, and then that's what they hang on to in terms of I can continue this. This is really sustainable for me now. And I got this.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

So there's a sequence by which you you and your clients, they track their progress, they start to feel different. Then the next one is they notice changes in their bodies, and others notice changes, and they said, Darling, I like me, I like myself. And the third thing you mentioned, then they start to have some sustainable habits that their lifestyle very slowly, you mentioned six months mark, started to shift differently. But all of that starts with feel the feelings when feelings change, right brain, left brain take notice too, and then your self-image, your body starts to change. We you talked about why high performance women lose their energy as they are trying to be super successful. And why is it not their fault? Because they think it's fault. They say I did something wrong, I'm not doing something wrong, I'm not managing. You talk about balance, I'm not balancing things well, but why do they lose their energy? And why is that?

SPEAKER_00 10:12

That's a really good question. I guess I'll start by saying women typically lose energy for a few reasons. It's not any one thing or any one event. It could be because they've been going at the same pace for so long that then they hit a wall and they burn out, right? Could be that, could be a hormonal change, whether you've had kids or not. There's obviously hormonal changes throughout having kids, but even just aging, we hit hormonal changes, and other things change too. Our lives get weighted with way more responsibility than I think we even realize. And all of a sudden, you get to a point where you realize, oh my gosh, I've been just giving and giving. I've been performing really well, I'm exhausted, showing up on my family, um, whatever capacity that is. And then the realization of where did I stop taking care of myself? And when did I just stop taking care of some of the basic needs that I have? And it becomes a strategy in figuring out where why is this happening? And so we then start to get into the why behind the loss of the energy because it's not the same for everybody. There are a lot of similarities and there's a lot of crossover, but it's not all the same. And I really believe in not being lumped into a just a statistic with everybody else. I think it's really important that we take ownership of our own bodies and our own lives and really sit with what we are doing, not comparing ourselves to other people, which is really hard, and especially in a high-performing world, yeah, that is very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

That's right. This is so key what you mentioned that for women, almost everything in everybody is job one, lastly is themselves. When I have energy, then we come to me. And in my work, as the psychologist working with this woman, I asked them a question and they hate me for it. Is that how many yeses do you say to others, spouse, manager, team, off-site, so on and so on? And where is that yes? Where do you come in that yes? Then they realize the yes for themselves when everything is taken care of, they don't have time for me, but that's the time they're exhausted. So part of that is gradually rebalancing yes, no. People who get better, they have more no's coming, and often maybe I'm not sure yet. But versus creating some space that you get to have yes for me versus I need to take care of everything, everybody, and that becomes an issue. That why is that? Where did that good girl motivation come from? And I love the reason. Did you ask them why? So you mentioned there's a reason wonderful habits fall apart, and it's not about motivation and willpower. So, what is it about when habits fall apart?

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Habits fall apart because of misalignment. Misalignment meaning people are trying to already do too much, right? And so then they layer on like a new whatever exercise program or diet program, whatever it might be, because they do want to feel better and they have all the intention in the world to do it, and maybe they start and maybe they are motivated, maybe they're not. But habits fall apart because you don't take into account of where you are in your life right now, and your capacity changes, right? My capacity is way different now than it was even 10 years ago. And when you have that misalignment, now you have a misalignment of expectations of what said programs are going to do for you. Not only that, when said programs stop and you have not built a foundation of habits that are aligned with where you are, I call it a baseline. When you have not established your new baseline, which for a lot of us, a lot of high performers, feels very minimal. It does not feel like enough. But if you don't have that baseline established, nothing is gonna stick.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

And you're also constantly comparing comparing yourself to what you were when you had more time and energy, and it just doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

We know that we have to be a bit more strategic with our time, you have to be more intentional. Um, and so going to just using a quick example, going to an exercise class is not as easy because you have to take into account the time it takes you to get there, time it takes you to then do the class. Maybe you want to have time to shower and change, and you need to show up at your job looking professional, right? That's a two-hour plus thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Half the day is gone.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

You don't have that every day. That's right. Yeah, you but you don't have that luxury every day. So that's just one example. And once I start pointing that out, we because we talk about the time piece, right? I hear about when am I gonna do it? I don't have the time. Let's look at the time you have. You just gave me a window of 45 minutes. You're right. I don't think you do have time to go take that class. I'd like you to take that class, but you're not able to do that today. You're not able to do that on Wednesday. So maybe on the Wednesday, you're gonna do something else that you do have time for. And then on the weekend, when you have that two-hour block, you can set that in. So it really becomes a strategy in a system of flexibility and adaptability in order to put yourself first, right? We know we need to exercise, we know we need to eat well. Those two things are two known facts. Why is it hard for people to do it?

SPEAKER_02 16:51

It just becomes one size fits all. You need to crush it. Like my wife. So she had the multiple trainers for her own health, bodybuilding, fitness. They all give her a model that I think she went to male trainers. I think if they were designed for men that they focus on muscle and strength building, and also what you just mentioned, Ariel, that almost you need to feel it, you need to feel energized within the time you have, versus almost it was crush it. Her trainers in that you need to go push it, push the limit, and she would come and say, I hate this, I can't sustain this. It becomes almost like an assignment, almost became a chore. So after a few weeks, she quit. But you talk about different ways knowing the realities, you talked about alignment within that. What's feasible? What brings you a sense of practice, sense of joy, and feel that you say, Hey, I can do this, I can manage and lead this for women in general, yeah. Almost for everybody, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

I think part of it is you have to understand your own energy and what is depleting you and what gives you energy, and also you have to understand that you're not gonna feel great every day, yeah. So you don't have to, unless you're training for the Olympics, yeah, which I have experienced doing, you have to push hard even on the days that you really don't have it.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

But the rest of the population, we don't have to do it. You don't have to push through on a day, you don't have to crush it on a day that you just don't have it. And in fact, that's when a lot of people get injured, is when they do. Uh, but especially for women, our energy is cyclical. It's it's another layer that I add into my practice, which is understanding your cycle and your energy within it and how to work with it instead of against it. So if you're pushing yourself through low energy at the wrong time in your cycle, you're actually raising your cortisol, you're causing more stress to your body than needs, and you're doing the opposite. So I've had a lot of women say to me, just can't seem to lose this weight. And so then we start digging into the energy cycle, and of course, they're very shocked when they say, These days you're not gonna really do much. And of course, there are times when your energy is great even through an energy disk. But you just have to build an awareness in your own body, it's about really listening to your body is flinging messages all of the time, and if we've learned to ignore them, yes, we have to push through some things, of course we do, but we don't have to push through everything, and there are times when we can really honor our bodies and needs.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

I was asking there are people listening to these podcasts, different places, gender, countries, languages listening to your bodies. What are one, two, three things you can invite the listeners to listen to their bodies? Can you give us some tips? What do I listen to my body right now? What it looks like.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

What does that look like? Um, so let's start with energy and motivation because a lot of people will tell me I'm just not motivated to move. And the athlete in me says that's not really acceptable. Because we have to move our bodies. I say it gently, right? Uh kindly. And also a few gurus out there are saying this as well, where you can't just wait for motivation. Motivation isn't the thing that you wait for. That's not what's going to build sustainable habits. It's not motivation, it's implementing and practicing. And when you have a bad day, you don't wait another week to start implementing again. You implement again the next day. You don't wait, you don't have what I call this lag time, right? The longer the lag time, the less motivated you'll become and the harder it is to get started. Whereas if you look at it from a perspective of, I know I'm gonna have bad days, I know I'm gonna wake up not motivated to move or to eat well or to go to bed on time. Yeah, I know I'm gonna have those days, and I'm gonna have to just stick to my routine on those days as best as I can. And when you stack up those days, yeah, like the days that don't feel wonderful, the days that do feel really good, yeah, are push you to the next level. Because now you have you know you have this motivation and energy to push you to that next level, and that's when you can really optimize it.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

That's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

And it becomes very clear. I use the example. Some days my legs feel like complete lead. They're just like weighing me down. I can't possibly walk up that hill. But I do it and I do it slower, but then the next day I got enough sleep. I ate really well. I'm I can run up the hill, but I still went up the hill when I didn't feel like it. One of my philosophies is you have to balance you or you have to merge the things that you enjoy doing with the things that you don't really. There's gonna be some of that, and we have to accept it, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:51

That tension between for the listeners, I run marathons. People say the marathon you draw the energy from, and I tell them it's not the day of the marathon, it's the six to eight months building the endurance and stamina and habits that I built toward the marathon. And I do it not for the race, I do to have faith in me that I can do hard things for the runners, for the people who are doing the physical things. I have more days, I don't want to do this when you run the first three to five kilometers. I hate it. I think, why am I doing this? Go home, take social media, have a cup of coffee, take a nap. Then by the time you get to 5k, your body kicks in, almost I go in a state of flow. And then every other day or so, I go just one extra block, one extra city block, and before your endurance builds up to me. I'm not a young guy, but I see I can do hard things slowly with love, and as you mentioned, with enjoyment and the tensions undone. Why am I doing this? It feels great, it feels great. So I have more self-respect for me and for people who do this kind of work.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Yeah. Going back to the habits conversation as well, and why people fall off of it, it's usually because they're trying to follow a system that is really designed for the perfect week, designed for the perfect circumstance, it's designed for the best of all things when really we need to be designing for the opposite, for the hard week. Design for the hard week first, and then you can start stacking up on top of that because that's how you build strength, that's how you build resilience.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

I'm talking about nutrition as well. There's this all or nothing mindset in our culture, and it doesn't work, or it works for a very short period of time, it's not sustainable. And when things are too rigid, when there's too many rules and there's no room for real life, that's when people lose it.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

We talked about the energy, so about food, energy crashes, and brain fog. In your practice, how do you see those three the energy when we crash and the brain fog? And how do they play into this? Your work. Exactly. What causes then also when your clients have them? How do you guide them through it and out of it?

SPEAKER_00 25:53

So it's a bit of free education. It's something I had to learn myself, and it's going against some of that conventional wisdom out there. It's going against the way a lot of us grew up on cereal and oatmeal and sugar for breakfast. And I used to eat almost a whole box of cereal in the morning. So it's really learning about some of the science. Not everything. I think it can everything can get really overwhelming, but there's so much evidence out there that shows if we consume too much sugar, and I don't mean the obvious sugars, because those are clear, right? But things like unfortunately, like the pastas and the breads and carb heavy things that are processed, they're gonna rob your energy. And when I learned more about the science, about what happens when you ingest those foods, it became so much more clear and so much easier for me to make a change. And so I teach people what foods are really robbing them of their energy, right? It's usually pretty surprising for people, or they know but didn't really know how to tie it together with how they're feeling. And there's also a couple of different levers. I try to explain this in terms of different levers that you can pull, right? So you've got the nutrition level lever, you've got the movement lever, and you have lifestyle lever. And at any one point, we need to do all three. We need to focus to an extent on all three, but it can be too overwhelming to fix everything at once, right? So say we're pulling on the nutrition lever, we've got some basic movement going on, and you're working on your sleep, and you've got that going on. We're gonna focus on the nutrition piece, and we're gonna dive in and we're gonna say, okay, you're gonna, I have a system and I have some tools to use that I can offer the audience as well. I call it managing indulgences. And what that means is people write down the list of all the unhealthy things, including the drinks and the pastas and the pastries, whatever it is that the other prices they feel like they might eat too much of. And then I help them pick and choose which ones they want to keep in their life and which ones they're gonna get rid of for a short period of time. And we play a little game, and it's eye-opening because people then start to realize okay, well, if I'm not gonna have this item, what can I replace it with?

SPEAKER_02 28:37

So then we like that replacing versus saying no. I like that one.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

Okay. And then there's usually an item where I said, I know there's an item on this list where you can't live without. So you're gonna tell me which item that is, and we're gonna limit it for a week, a weekly limit. We're gonna set a weekly limit so that you feel like you're having it, but you're not deprived of it. Yeah, and basically what happens through this exercise and what this tool does is it helps people realize what they really enjoy. And so then when they go to the office and the donuts are put in front of them, they've now associated the fact that I don't really love donuts that much. So I don't really need it. It becomes easy rather than a restriction. I don't want it rather than oh my God, I gotta try not to eat this.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

That's right, that's right. Exactly. And what you mentioned, there are times that my clients ask about their family and their teenagers, the social media come after dinner, everybody on their devices, and they say, How do I stop that? And I tell them, instead of thinking about how do I stop that, what do you replace it with? After I remember my wife and son, we start to read books together, play court games, card games, or just take our golden retriever for walks. So, substitution is a much better solution versus black and white. No, we're gonna stop that. So, because our body, our nervous system, our comfort-seeking mind looks for something else to get excited about. So, I love what you mentioned. Give them a choice, give them an option, give them a way to experiment. If we bring this a bit lower, what does it look like? So, what looks like to uh somebody over 40, their body's changing, hormones changing. What does diet, nutrition, and feeling great looks like? And what is the work you do for those women when they get past 40?

SPEAKER_00 30:51

I think there's a myth that the body's working against you. And I don't think that's really the case. I think we need to learn how to work with our bodies and what it's doing. And luckily, we live in an age where we can test for things and we can really find out where what our bodies are actually doing. And I think that's a good place to start. Okay, do we have to get tested all the time? No, but you know, I think spending too much time letting your head spin about your hormones changing is a bit fruitless. I think that knowing where you are is the best entry point and figuring out which and step you can take next. And there are changes that happen, and again, it happens at different times for different women, and there is no one size fits all. But what is a one size fits all is that if you eat well and you're working out and you have good sleep and you have good lifestyle behaviors, it'll be so much easier to figure out what the problem is than if you don't have that baseline, right? So that should be the goal is get your baseline set.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Get healthy, just baseline health. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Yeah. And then that way when you go into your doctor or you go into your specialist and you can give them some symptoms, and it'll be so much easier for them to pinpoint what the problem is than if you have to do all of those things at once. Really hard to figure out.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Good, good.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

So that's what I say. I think it's really important to get that baseline. But the other things that change in our 40s recovery time, training intensity, nutrition timing, stress management, all of those things really matter. And again, it matters in a cyclical way. Um, it matters if you know how to listen to your body or not. And what stays the same is what I just said is establishing that baseline. But what does that do? It's your body's ability to get stronger, build muscle, feel good, you eat healthy with I'm all about mixing in fun. You should not take out all the fun unless you have something very specific you are working towards or training for. I yes, I've trained celebrity celebrities, but they've had specific things they were working on and needing to be ready for.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

And that's right.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

No one can live in extremes for a really long time. And what's made the biggest difference in the clients I've seen who are over 40 is that they've stopped fighting their body and started listening to it.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

This is so great, Ariel. As I'm listening to you, so I worked with trainers based upon the exercises, the work I do. The impression I get from you, you pay attention to the person, their lifestyle, the age. What are they seeking for? What do they want to get better of and why? And it's almost making you work with what you have to get better, versus here's a regimen, 10 weeks regimen, let's go there and try to almost boot camp it. It's really the view you bring, it's more is gentle but deliberate, it's focused on the person, where you are, and let's make you big better. Who do you want to work with? Who is your ideal client that does, yes, we are a perfect mat?

SPEAKER_00 34:40

Oh, that's a good question. I think it's the person who has probably tried a lot of things and hasn't worked for them, and they've gotten to the point where it's really frustrating. And the person who is willing to and knows that they need to do the work. I can't do it for you, I can't shop for you, I can't move for you. For years, of course, I was a trainer and I worked out with my clients four hours a day, and then I got injured and I pushed myself obviously to the brink, and I pushed through things I shouldn't have. But what I learned was that people were relying on me too much. I love what I did. I love being in front of a room and leading a class, and there's nothing like that energy. I think that's really fun. But when it comes to really changing someone, helping someone change and transform, they have to do it. And I want to make it doable for people. I think it's just so hard in the society we live in. And I want the client to understand that they don't always have to be so hard on themselves. There is no perfect, and that we're gonna work with what they have and with what they can do. And once you once they start seeing progress, they're off to the races. Um, and yeah, I think those are the people I enjoy working with.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

People who are motivated, they already have tried different practices, different programs, and this is I want to do this right in the right way that is meaningful to me, and those are coming to you. As we're getting close to the end, what is the one advice you want people to take away from our conversation?

SPEAKER_00 36:47

One nugget of advice. Yeah, block out the noise and listen to yourself, what you need, yeah, figure that out.

SPEAKER_02 37:00

Listen to yourself. There's so many voices, go social media, everybody says there's something wrong with you, take this test, and you wonder what you talk about. There's a wisdom, there's a knowledge. Listen to yourself. Ariel, where do people find you? Where, if they wanted to read about you, get in touch with you, where do the people find you?

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Yeah, people can go to my website, uh, arielhoffman.com, and you can find me on LinkedIn. I have a newsletter that I write once a month on there. Um, and when you go to my website, get on my email list, you get a free ebook uh that will help give you a couple tools to get you started. And Instagram, I'm the energy reset coach. You can check me out there, and uh can always get in touch with me. So I'm always happy to answer questions.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

That's great. Thank you so much, Ariel. And then all of the information about your contact information, I will put at the end of the podcast. And again, to capture what we talked about is that our body, our health, our energy, it's almost like our bank account. Instead of managing our debt, credit card payments. Part of that is that how do we build wealth, build energy, become healthier, we grow? And what Ariel shared is that there's so much wisdom, so much potential, regardless of lifestyle, of age, of demand, there's always a way to be healthy, eat healthy, get dressed, and then have more energy in a way that fits our lifestyle. We don't need to crush it, but we need to be mindful, we need to be taught bull, and we need to be disciplined. Did I capture it right?

SPEAKER_00 38:55

I think you've summed it up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Beautiful. Thank you so much. Great seeing you. We will have a follow up session with you and be well for the listeners and please reach out to Arielle. She loves to talk with you.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Thank you.