Anyway, Yeah
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Anyway, Yeah
There's Always a But
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This week, there’s always a “but.” 👀
Can someone really be a 10 if they don’t put their shopping cart back? Is a bed frame actually optional? Does not being able to parallel park knock points off? And what if they start as a 4 but somehow win you over with their personality?
We’re debating all the little things that somehow become dealbreakers (or green flags), diving into whether social media is ruining dating, and tackling one of the most important questions of our generation (you’ll have to wait to the end to find out).
As always, it’s a little unhinged, full of hot takes, and guaranteed to make you question your own rating system. Anyway… yeah.
Anyway, yeah.
SPEAKER_02First and foremost. Oh yeah. Welcome to our podcast. Let's get to it. If they wanted to, they would. Should we say that?
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SPEAKER_02Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are. We're back. We're back. Episode three today. Episode three today.
SPEAKER_01Milestone. I know you guys all missed us last week, but we were being very good daughters and with our fathers.
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SPEAKER_02We dedicate this episode to you. And to Cassandra and Eric. Shout out to Mom and Dad. Mom and Dad. Yep. Being our number one fans. Always just supporting us. Amazing. Truly. We'll have a special question at the end for you guys. Specifically for Cassandra and Eric, but for everyone else included, you know. But they'll appreciate it the most. Absolutely. I think so. We're going to do that with every episode. Yeah. A little question at the end. Just to spice things up. Because you guys really need to keep you listening. Yeah. And you guys really did like that duck for sized the amount of times that this conversation has happened in real life. And now that I've gotten asked, like, oh, so you're not going to ask me the question. I'm like, what question? I have no idea how pivotal that question would be in our lives. And credit to you because you came up with that. You said, This is what we're doing. And I said, All right, why not? And I did come up with this question at the end too. And I would love to know everyone's answers. Yeah. So we'll we'll keep you guys going. So stay tuned. Stay tuned. Keep watching. You know. But to start this episode, Karen, what are we doing? So we're going to keep it a little light, a little fun. We'll dive into some deeper things, but it wouldn't be a conversation of hours or an episode of ours without us just saying a bunch of nonsense. Exactly. So we're just going to come in hot and we're going to do some topics. What do we always like to yap about? Everything, right? But anything, actually. But one of those things, of course, dating, which is a little fun question for you. It kind of has to do with it. I'm going to set the scene. Imagine you're seeing some guy, you meet him, right? New, amazing. You're saying all the great things about him, and you're like, this man is a 10. Okay. But there's always a butt. There's always a butt. So we're going to start with some of those butts. But I love something butts.
SPEAKER_00Love big butts. And I cannot. I can't. When a girl walks in with it and be wasting the wrong thing in your face, you get strong.
SPEAKER_02And on that note, great transition. Alright, so I want you to envision this man that you were seeing, and you're like, this man is a 10, right? So I want you to tell me if this man is still a 10 after I tell you a few of these things. Okay. Okay. Second scene. He's a 10. Alright, he's a 10. But he's a 10. But he's a guy with no bed frame. Doesn't want one. He doesn't have one. He doesn't feel the need for one. So, like, no bed frame at all. Because you know how mine just doesn't have like a back. No. Like nothing. It's just mattresses on the front. Yeah, and he's intending to keep it that way. Is this man still a 10? Absolutely not. Okay, why not? I don't know. If anything, bohemian.
SPEAKER_00He's anything, build one. Build one. If you can't afford it, build one.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. That's just weird. He likes the vibe. He's just all vibes.
SPEAKER_00I guess it would depend if like if his whole apartment is like aesthetic and yeah, bohemian and just okay.
SPEAKER_02Let's you're right. You know what? Let's take the bohemian out of it. The man is just okay. Alright. If if I see a mattress on the ground with those navy blue bed sheets on top, probably beds not made. It's always navy blue. It's always navy blue. Or a dark gray. Yes. With stains of no, you're done. You are two. Wrap it up. Which not a qualifying candy. Not a qualifying candidate. No, because we need to do it. You're done. You're done. All right. I'm gonna agree with that one. Yeah, that's just like I mean the bare minimum.
SPEAKER_00If you because if you have other furniture in your apartment or whatever, then how do you not have a bed frame? You know, like I think that that would be I would rather you have a bed frame with no couch in your apartment, yeah, than a couch and a bed with no bed frame.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and he's just like, I'm just like that, just built this way. Yeah, and see, and that is a guy that would say that's a little cringy, yeah. Because what is your excuse? I would ask right away, why don't you have a bed frame? Yeah, or you hey, are you getting a new frame? And he's like, No. And it's like you know your sweet butt. I would be like, Why? Yeah, what's wrong? Also, not the most comfortable, in my opinion. If you've ever slept on just a mattress with imagine getting out of bed, and you're just like I can't. You just like these hips roll over on the ground, like oh and also it doesn't need no stand either. And like what you're just charging with your phone on the ground, then it's just like it's not if it's a moving situation, sure, but we're not talking about moving, we're talking about this. He's been here for a couple years, and this is the way he liked it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I do believe that like your home should be like just tranquility, you know, like it's your space.
SPEAKER_02And for me to feel at home, I need a bed frame to sleep on. Yeah, I agree with that in all aspects, yeah.
unknownOkay, great.
SPEAKER_02Okay, how about you? How about you? This guy's a 10. Okay, this guy is like Jalen Hurts, okay. Okay, okay, but every story somehow ends up being about him. Tap me out. And that's every story. Oh my gosh, immediate zero. Immediate zero. I'm taking it all the way down to zero. That is so gross, yeah, in all aspects, because we're only talking about you. And you know what? I've been in a similar situation. Oh, we have been in these situations oh many times, yeah. And because we're so enamored by everything else, you're like, it's fine, it's fine until he knows nothing about you and you have to do it. But then he meet him, but he's like, I like you so much. Yeah, and then you don't know me, you don't know me, and then you're like, Well, what do you like about me? And then he lists all the things that you do for him. Yep, yep. Oh, you don't like me. So you don't like me. You like what I do for you, and you like yourself, actually, but you actually hate yourself, which is why you backed up exactly secure. That's a zero, that's disgusting, that's unattractive, just weird behavior, especially when like you're a grown adult. It's very simple. Dating, especially, you should want to get to know the person that you're gonna be dating. And it's crazy. That sounds odd to me. It's and how common that is. Uh that's more than not. I we've both experienced that more than not when you're like, what am I doing here? Yeah. Do you even want me here? Do you just want a mirror, actually? Because I can leave. Just want to talk to yourself, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I will say, and we're gonna get into social media later on this episode.
SPEAKER_00But like, it's men like that that should just talk to Chat GPT.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I know Chat GPT is gonna be boosting their ego because that's what it's meant for, but like talk to your phone, don't talk to me about have an AI girlfriend. Yeah, go ahead. Please do us both a favor. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Absolutely disgusting to me. Appalling. All right, Gretel. He's a 10, but he wears Crocs in public all the time. All the time, all the time. He's a crocodile. He's suit crokken. He's he's got his suit crocs. He's he just has a whole variety of different things. He's got them in sport mode at that point.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, not sport mode. Honestly, respect.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, thoughts. But actually, he's always wearing crocs. He's always wearing crocs. No, absolutely not. I have known a male like of this sort, and he loves them. Yeah, he was actually sponsored by Crocs, which is really funny. If he if you're sponsored by Crocs, fine. Get that bag. Well, yeah. But if you're not, then don't then variety. Yeah. Get some bulk. Get some actual suit shoes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do not be showing up. Like, oh, could you imagine getting married to this guy? And people do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's weird. It is see, and uh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I'm probably gonna get some hate from this, but Crocs are just I get they're um they're convenient and they're durable.
SPEAKER_02It's taking everything in you to get out these words.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to just like uh not purple feelings, but like yeah, not for me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and that's people never see me in crocs, that's for sure. Me either. And listen, that's okay. People like to crock it, just not us. Keep crocking it, but keep crocking it and rocking it. Does it what does it knock him down, Jucy's still a 10? Could be. No. No, absolutely not. He's not a 10. Okay. If you're showing up in Crocs every single time I'm seeing you, if you're meeting my parents in Crocs, buddy. It just won't work. My parents are like, what is what is a little croc guy doing? What's a little crocking over here? Crock. Yeah, see, just the word croc, just I don't know. Yeah, no, that's it's a no for me, dog.
SPEAKER_01What's his name? Randy Jackson.
SPEAKER_02Randy Jackson. It's a no for me, dog. It's a no for me, dog. Yeah. This one's important. Okay. This one's for you. He's a 10. He's a 10 out of 10, but he can't parallel park. Okay. Well, lucky for him, I can. You're not the best, but I can do it, and I will get there. No, you definitely can. And I'm so proud of you every time. Freddle has seen my growth with parallel parking, and sometimes it takes me longer than it needs to, but we get in there. Oh, yeah. I mean, I do want him to do that because I think that's like one of your turn-ons. Not turn-ons, but like you know, that's if you're okay, like put the hand behind the passenger side, like and then you can't. He's not even looking in the rear rear mirror. He's not even he doesn't even need the camera. I need the camera. He doesn't need it. He doesn't need it and just whips it like for first time. That's attractive. That is attractive. Okay. I'm not gonna uh you know, and what if he's parallel parking in front of like your friends or family? Imagine what your father or brother would say. Oh, and my brother and my dad would be like, and like he really can't parallel park, like equivalent to you, okay, respectfully.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you know, I mean it's I can't parallel park you.
SPEAKER_02I mean, maybe not how many people can like be suave with parallel parking. I think he's I think that's he can still be he can be a nine. I'm giving him grace because I have no room to speak.
SPEAKER_01But don't you want someone that like you know balances you out?
SPEAKER_02Just practice a little. So practice. I'll give him a nine. Yeah, that's it. Okay, that's it. Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, let's hope that doesn't happen, but you know, I know that you're gonna go on a date with some guy and he can't parallel park, and you're gonna call me right after. No, oh I am not never happening on another date. This man, never happening. They can all parallel park, they can in my past have you ever have you ever experienced that? A guy who like isn't a good driver.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, that's an interesting. I mean, I have uh data guys who are like are just like aggressive drivers.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's a different subject, yeah. But in my mind, like that's bad driver. Oh, I like that perspective shift on it. You could be a bad driver with like road rage and stuff, yeah. That's if you have road rage, I don't like you, yeah. Besides you, besides me, but I get over in two seconds, yeah. It's in your mind isn't like actually it's mine's not aggressive, no, mine's just like move, you know those guys where it's like well, I mean it can be women too, but they get so upset, it gets a little scary, yeah, and you're like and then you just have to be quiet, it changes their mood throughout like the rest of the day, and you're like who cares? Yeah, and then it gets quiet, and then it's awkward. Yeah, I've experienced that more than not, yeah, and they just you're right, and it's weird and scary because then you're like, who are what? Yeah, it's a control thing for sure, yeah. And it's like you're fine, nothing happened, right? And it's not that serious, it's not that serious, all right. Well, a little bit we're gonna pivot a little bit. Um okay, to pivot a little bit. He's a 10, but he's that type of guy, and he actually in fact has this. His profile picture is of him holding a fish, and he posts a lot of these fish holding pictures. And he's proud of that fish. Thoughts. He's a 10, but he does that. Yeah. I think you could look at him be like, oh gosh, and then you get over in two seconds. I think you would.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think so because I grew up in a little small farm town. I feel like I'm what's the word? Um like that's expected.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. What is it when you like consume something so much that you're like, you're just into it. What's the word though?
SPEAKER_00Desensitized. Desensitized. I'm desensitized to men holding fish.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But if that is your profile picture, we probably aren't the most compatible.
SPEAKER_02I agree. Yeah. On the other hand, you know, I'm starting to realize these city boys suck. And maybe I do want a little farm guy. Okay. I think you want a beach guy.
SPEAKER_00I want a beach guy. Yeah. I want a San Diego guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think you want a beach guy more than anything.
SPEAKER_00I want it. No, I want a guy straight from Spain. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02Born and raised. Spain soccer team. Okay, back on track. Okay. He's a 10, but he follows more girls on Instagram than they follow him. No. You don't. He'll just follow these girls and like like stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. And they're not triggering the same thing. I'm getting triggered. You're the worst man. Immediate negative 100. Oh, I just want to say so much right now. I know. So much, Karen. Yeah. No, we'll skip it that.
SPEAKER_00I've learned my lesson. Throw the whole man away. And I don't care what the I'm at the point. You guys listen up. I'm at the point. I don't care what the excuse is. If you are following more girls than guys and girls you don't know, and I see that you're just under every single girl's picture. I don't care what the excuse is that you have of why you're following a whole freaking nail salon. You are dead to me.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. I'm gonna back that up. I think it's just so triggering. Yeah, retweet. That is so triggering, and it also just looks so lame. And it's so embarrassing when it's like girls that you know and you're like, you don't know them, and you're following them, and you're it makes me it boils my blood. It boils my blood. Yeah, and it just yeah, it feels so triggering. Yeah, take some two friends.
SPEAKER_00And here's the thing I am gonna say this because one of my boyfriends, ex-boyfriend, ex-boyfriends, of course, by the time, like we were in the transitional phase of like, okay, we're not dating, but we're like exclusive, we're not like official.
SPEAKER_01And of course, Karen and I had to like go through the Instagram following, and it was exactly what we expected. But here's the thing: I had told him this like while we were together, like officially dating, which again I learned my lesson, won't do that again. And he's like, Well, why would you go through my following list?
SPEAKER_02It's public information, dude. And if you're ashamed of it and you know that that's weird, if you're offended by it, but you're doing it, you look stupid. Yeah, and if you're offended by it, then you know that something's wrong and that you're doing something you shouldn't be doing, and you already know how it would make your significant other feel because you wouldn't like it.
SPEAKER_01And like to be honest with you, it's not even about the whole like dating aspect, it's just like you as a person, like even when like you're single and you're just following a bunch of randoms, like like you look desperate, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It does look very I will die on this hill. I'm gonna look in the camera. I will die on this hill. No one can change my mind. What she said. Yeah, I I back that up. It just also just feels kind of gross, and you don't have to be officially dating, but just the person that you're getting to know. This is what they're doing, yeah. This is their character, so you're seeing that too, and you're like, is this a red flag? Do I like this? Does this mean anything? And then you go down the rabbit hole where you're analyzing everything and you're like, Yeah, I just do I not, do I see something? Do I not? I can't, and I hate that.
SPEAKER_01But I do truly believe that it's instances like that where you really do get like a kind of like a little glimpse of what their personality is like because that's how you are when you're single, looks desperate.
SPEAKER_00And then also if you're trying to get in a serious relationship and you even like reevaluated your everyday actions, like what you consume on social media, you're probably not ready for a serious relationship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it seems minuscule for people, like oh my god, I'm just only it's not that big of a deal, or I'm just liking the picture.
SPEAKER_00Let me tell you, I dove deep into this, like into research about it and its facts, what we're saying. Yeah, there's plenty of reasons on why that actually is a huge red flag.
SPEAKER_01That's a whole other topic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we can get into all of that, yeah. You can see where I stand, where we stand. I agree. All right, well, let's switch it up. Let's switch it up, let's make it a little more lighthearted. All right, let's do it. Okay, so we already did he's a 10, but but now we're gonna switch it up a little bit, make it a little more positive. There's hope. There's hope. You know what? He's a four. He's a four. He's a four, but he's a little below average. He's yeah, he's a little, he's a little there. However, how but but, but, but you know, he's he's got some qualities to him that'll maybe boost his score up a little bit. I hate saying score, but also we're rating it. Okay, okay. You know what? He's a four, but he is an amazing cook, and he can cook better than your own grandmother and your own mother. Better than Judy Babes, better than Judy Babes and Allison. This man is chefing it up, and he's just so like suave with it. Oh, okay, fine.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him an eight.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I like obviously I have no idea what the rest of his personality looks like.
SPEAKER_02I don't care, but like if you can cook, he can cook, okay, yeah, he's feeding you, and yeah. And you know what? He will literally feed you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know what?
SPEAKER_02And he'll be like, You do you want some more? What else do you like? I'll make it, I'll make it right now.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna give him a nine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Eight to a nine.
SPEAKER_02Eight, yeah. You're four eight to nine. Four eight to nine. And just like that, boom, boom. Yeah, yeah. What would you what would you say, Karen? Yeah, a man that can cook is I'm putting them right there with you. Yeah, I'll put them at that night.
SPEAKER_01Because also then it like breaks the stigma of like only women should be in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I'm gonna make you pizza rolls, yeah. Okay, let's not stereotype. I'm exhausted all day. Come home, there's a home cooked meal. Oh, God bless your soul.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you're feeding me, and you're feeding me.
SPEAKER_02You do like that. Okay. Now for year four.
SPEAKER_00He's a solid four, but he remembers every little detail you've ever mentioned.
SPEAKER_02Okay, in like an endearing way. Yes, okay, because uh that's like an annoying way it's not weird, it's not like, oh yes, Karen. I know if you think of that, you know. I remember what time you blinked at 342. Exactly. I mean, hey I attention to detail. I will say I love that. Immediate you're up on scale, or putting you up to like a nine. Yeah, I that is the sweetest thing ever because you actually care and you're paying attention to things that and I also have the memory of Dory. Yeah, you do. So I do love it, and you do this too. When people remind me of things that I said I liked or this and that, and I'm like, oh yeah, I did, didn't I? And I because I forget. Yeah. So the fact that you know that right. It's kind of like a little deal, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Where you're like, you mentioned it to them, but kind of like in passing, like it wasn't like a you know, exactly, you wouldn't think they would remember it.
SPEAKER_01And then a week later, like they do something.
SPEAKER_02I mean, you're like, whoa, that's so endearing. How okay, you paid attention, yeah, you took that little nugget and put it in your brain, and you were like, You sort in file cabinets. You sort it. No, I love oh I know. Okay, all right, let's get married immediately. I do love that. All right, well, here's a little twist on you. He's a four, but he has either zero social media or has it, but doesn't really use it. 10. 20. 20. Sign you are a unicorn. You're a unicorn. Okay, what two words?
SPEAKER_01He is a four, but he always, always, always returns his shopping cart.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's the what comes with it too, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's deeper than that.
SPEAKER_02Put him up to a seven, yeah. Yeah, that's sweet. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. And I will go. And we actually push the cart into the other cart. Yes, I I do like that. That's one of my biggest pet peeves that I will see people, and I'm like, I'm just gonna take the Cart and do it myself. Yeah. And sometimes you would think I'm working at Target or something. There's three of them. And I'm like, let me just go collect them. Just put them in there. And it's so rude.
SPEAKER_01It's the smallest thing ever. Yeah. And also, that is your duty as a civilian.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Return your shit. Just return your shit.
SPEAKER_00And that's why all the respect. See, Europeans got it going on.
SPEAKER_02Put the freaking quarter in the shopping cart. Yeah. The principal. I hate too when it's in like the parking lot and there's like a little divider, or like if there's trees or something, they just put it there because they're like, well, I won't move. You can also go put it where it needs to be. Exactly. So take 10 extra steps, man. Take 10 extra steps. Get your cardiomyous. Yeah. That's another thing we can rant about. I can rant about so many things. Alright. Well, he is a four. But this man makes sure to text you every single day to check in on you, see how you're doing. He also goes as far as, hey, maybe I can't talk to you, but I'm checking you in and telling you what I'm doing. That's what we'll do.
SPEAKER_01If you're considerate, there's a difference between you just telling me like updates versus you don't feel the pressure behind it to do it.
SPEAKER_02You just generally like to do it. Yeah. Consideration. That is my love language for sure. Consideration. Like, I don't care if you text me every day to be honest with you. Because that's the thing. It's like you don't need to be glued to each other. Just hey, keep me busy, whatever it is. Thank you. Thank you for just courtesy. Right.
SPEAKER_03That's it.
SPEAKER_02Bring back courtesy. Because that doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately. It doesn't. Yeah. I wanna know what drives me even more nuts about that.
SPEAKER_01Is when they're hypocrites about it. Where let's say you're gonna vibe the same way that they are. So then do you stop like telling them what's matching energy.
SPEAKER_02Matching energy. Let's talk about matching energy for a second.
SPEAKER_00But then they feel the need to be like, oh well, why didn't you tell me this?
SPEAKER_02This has happened to me so many times. The double standards. The double standards. Yeah, the double standards are insane nowadays. It's very, it's just again of like give me, but I don't need you anything. That's it. Very you take they take, no give. And nothing's gonna work that way. It doesn't have to be anything romantic, even a friendship, even like a family race relationship, any of it. Like I've had family members where I'm like, hello, are we? Can you just respond to me? Can you and you don't like when I do it, this and that.
SPEAKER_01Again, just courtesy. Yeah, just human wait. Maybe I am a hypocrite because I don't really respond.
SPEAKER_02But also, everyone knows that in my life. I'll give you this when you are talking to someone, we'll go back to the romantic level and dating someone and seeing someone, you do communicate with me. Oh, one thousand. I am the best communicator. Even with me. You communicate with me. I do. Yeah, and if not, you'll FaceTime, or I'll FaceTime, you'll be like, oh, hey, this is going on. Well, it's the thing. If it's like important instances or updates, then yeah, absolutely for sure. I'm not so you don't on that. Yeah. So I wouldn't say that you're like a hypocrite in that regard at all. You're right. Okay, thank you. Yeah. No, you do you can tell the difference too of like when it is something, and if you're not responding to someone, one, it's time, or also it's just something that you're like, I have more priorities over that now. And we all do that, yeah, every human does that. I don't care what anyone says, yeah, everyone does it. I have messages on my phone around that I'm like, oh, I need to respond to, but I just want to take the time to do it and sit and thoughtfully respond, but I haven't had the time to do it.
SPEAKER_01And I think that's one thing about I don't know, yeah. Today's world.
SPEAKER_02There's there shouldn't be this constant rush with everything, with texting, with communicating, with I don't know, just people want constant feedback, instant satisfaction, instant satisfaction, and like it doesn't work that way.
SPEAKER_00You wanna know what's interesting actually? I saw this video pop up on my Instagram, and it was do you remember the show Little Bear?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. I love that show. I loved it. It was just like a clip of one of their episodes, very low stim.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and that's what it was about. How nowadays you look at a kid's cartoon show or movie, it's like all over the place, like like so many lights, colors, it's yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. If you watch Little Bear, it is so slow, like the way they talk, the way they move, everything. I love that, and that's how it should be. Our brains are not meant to operate so fast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, even if you think back to childhood, now that I think about it, when you're saying that, everything was slow, and just you would go out like I just envisioned myself going out to play with my neighbors, and it was just the longest, slow burning day. You're so right. I we live in just like a more, more, more, and more is not more. If anything, it's all of a sudden, why are we hearing overstimulation so much? Why is that used every two seconds? Why are we hearing overwhelm so much? I'm this, I'm that, I'm that. I don't remember my parents saying that, and maybe they did feel those things, right? But I don't think they've I don't know. It's just amplified so much nowadays because everyone and everything is so instant, like you said.
SPEAKER_00It's and when you think about it, like throughout the day when your brain is constantly going that way, then it's not easy for at the end of the day your brain to just like shut that off. And typically people at the end of the day are on their phone still scrolling and still going through like the those fast motions.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like we're not meant to consume this much this fast, and we're also not meant to be so connected, like so with people because we're connected on a really surface level way, but we are so far gone when it comes to like deep connection, yeah. That's what makes me so sad.
SPEAKER_00I think we both struggle with that.
SPEAKER_02It's it's hard because this is at social media, you just dive into that. We live in a day and age where this is a part of our lives, we're putting this on social media. We can reach so many people, and it's so cool, and we stay in contact. However, you're right on a humanity level, also just I don't we were not made to know what we're doing every two seconds. No, like back in the day, you'd go through a breakup and you're like, wow, I don't know. I wish that person well, you don't see them ever maybe. And if you run into them, maybe it's like 20 years later or something crazy that you cross paths. But yet now it's like whether you're following each other or not, it doesn't matter. You can still go see what they're doing. Yeah, had a breakup, okay, great, and then now I know what they're eating for lunch the next day. What? Like, what a concept that is so weird when you think about it. And it's weird on so many different levels, but also social media would be the the best invention ever if humans weren't humans.
SPEAKER_01Let me let me elaborate. Every single person has their own unique experience, they have all different types of let's say like levels of mental health, whether it's like good, bad, whatever.
SPEAKER_00And social media is great for yeah, connecting and just getting information, like learning new skills, etc.
SPEAKER_01But the problem with those two combined is that when you are, let's say, like in a very vulnerable state, like not great mental health, you're not always using social media to look for new recipes to make and like to connect to an old friend to reach out to. No, you're comparing yourself online, you're looking at what your ex is doing, you're doing that, and that's where it stinks because yeah, social media is great, but also it's not healthy or normal.
SPEAKER_02It can be quite toxic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We normalize something that should not be normal.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I think now more than ever, especially when people are in like a lower place, let's say, they typically turn to social media, and it usually doesn't make it better. But it's just sad because it's just so much easier for vulnerable people, or even not vulnerable people. It's easy to just feel insecure in general on social media or feel like you to compare yourself, or oh, you're not as successful as this person, or you don't like this person. And it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter, I guess, what your mental state is.
SPEAKER_02And also easy to do. So much of it is all lies. It's such it's just a facade that people put on, especially when you and I've been guilty of this, where I don't feel great, but I'm gonna post something that looks like I feel great, so I can trick myself into thinking that I'm feeling great. Right. So then when people see that, they're like, oh my gosh, she's doing amazing, she's living her best life. And you're like, Well, you don't know is I've actually been stopping myself to sleep for the past four days, you know. So stuff like that. But then I'm like, it's not accurate, it's not real. And I feel like for both of us, our best relationships are obviously they're offline, but like we communicate with these people more than we do on any social media app.
SPEAKER_01Oh, 1000%. Yeah, I also could only imagine, and this is such a this is such a weird thing to think about.
SPEAKER_02All your followers have really no idea who you actually are, but they have like such a formed opinion about you. With no valid evidence, they don't know you, and it goes vice versa. We also follow that we're like, we don't know them, like with like what they post, right?
SPEAKER_01And that's why I have become more of a person that like just doesn't care what they post on their stories. Like I've had friends be like, you should probably put that on your close friends story. I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was actually just having this conversation yesterday about um someone was telling me they're like, Yeah, I don't have a close friend story. And I said, Neither do I. No, and there's nothing wrong with it. I just I don't because that's a lot, that's a lot for me to think of like who do I want in there, who I'm not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'd rather just not post anything, but if I'm gonna post something, I don't want to post it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. We also show like just authentic stuff, like we don't care if we look ugly or like stupid, you know, and I think that's important for people to keep doing. Man, I want to go back to when you would post on Facebook, you would download pictures from your camera and just upload all those pictures.
SPEAKER_02You can even look at it like your pictures, yeah, and you would just label it like Saturday night. Yeah, exactly. You'd have like 40 albums each weekend would be like a different album. And you guys are seeing every single picture, yes, yeah. It was just it's that that was just so funny. Now that what a concept, now thinking about it, because people like now we have like a curated carousel and yeah, this and that, and which song? And we both do this because I mean I love that though, because then you're like, this is so cool. It's like a little it's like a little scrap. But it's not the same, yeah. It's not the same. Back then, it'd be like whatever. Yeah, I don't know, I don't care. But that's why I feel like we we do a mix of it. Yeah, that's true. Because also at the end of the day, even if we look silly, goofy, whatever it is, people who matter in our lives see us on it, you know, in person, and you already know what we look like, you already know what we're doing. Exactly. You know who we are, you know who we are, it's not that serious. Well, and we can make fun of ourselves.
SPEAKER_00We post pictures of us going out or like at a concert, people instantly think, oh, they're drunk.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I promise you, 95% of the time we have not had a single sip of alcohol. Yeah, there's nothing in there but just pure just vibes, vibes. I know people say that, but I also say my vibes, but it is, it's just straight, yeah. Or like what are you drinking? You're like, nothing actually. I'm gonna give it some water, yeah. Thank you. We don't need it, we don't need it, and it's totally fine if you if you it's fine if you do, yeah. Like we'll have to drink still every now and then, and it's not whatever. Yeah, but people put you in these little categories.
SPEAKER_01It's like we are both we we work hard, we work out, like but we can we can have a drink and sound like we're party animals.
SPEAKER_02It's not something also that we need to make us act a certain way because you know how some people will be like, Well, I need liquid courage. That's fine to do you and I just we got the courage, we have the courage without even needing anything. We're just like, Yeah, whatever. So that works out for us, it does, which is honestly pretty great, I will say. I'm pretty thankful for that. We don't need anything else, any other influence. It's so true, it is so nice because I haven't always been in that kind of state.
SPEAKER_01Like there'd be times where I would think, oh my gosh, I do need a drink to feel like more comfortable and confident. That sucks because you don't even want to be doing like you don't even. I mean, there are some people who like drinking. I never did. I never like dressed. We're just speaking just for ourselves. Yeah, yeah. I remember how the daunting that felt.
SPEAKER_02Social peer pressure is real, even as an adult. Oh, 1000%. It's crazy how many times I get where I'm like, I'm not drinking today. Yeah, and I'll say it and people go, well, why not? Well, this how about no is no? You just say, okay.
SPEAKER_01It's not that serious. It's not that serious.
SPEAKER_02I mean, um, I'm like an alcoholic, recovering alcoholic. No, but what if what if I was? Right. So you just taunting is like whoa, you don't know you, you know, you never're pressured a lot. I feel like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's like in especially in high school and college. The college, I would sometimes bring coffee to pre-games. I love that. I'm like, I'm not drinking, but some energy stay up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, if anything, just a little energy, a little energy boost is all you need. If anything, alcohol makes me so sleepy. I just I'm like, we're more of a vibe when we're just yeah, we have more energy. We'll have a little coffee or a little we don't even need that, actually. No, we literally Gatorade. We hydrate before. Yeah. We just Gatorade and eat a gorilla bar. We're ready to go. And that's a little protein. Yeah, that's our pregame. Our pre-games are protein shakes. That says a lot about us. So yeah, we want you to say. Don't perceive me. Don't perceive me. Don't perceive me. That is really funny. Do not perceive me. The terms that are used nowadays, I was thinking about this the other day, are so funny to me because we say vibes and it's just what's the vibe, right? Perceive, or just like gaslight or um overstimulate. Just terms that are so, or this was one that I caught us saying a lot for our, I think it was our last episode. We go, it's giving, it's giving us a few. I know it's a part of our vocab, but also like ew at one point, like it's crazy, but also we say that on a daily basis. So it's but it's just funny to see the transition of the times. Like, there was um, there's a term. Oh, this is great. My niece and my nephew, my nephew is he just turned 14, and my niece is 11. And my niece has her little first little boyfriend, which they're oh love that at 11. Crazy. My sister refuses to acknowledge it. However, I I missed that time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're like, we live like vicariously through her right now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I didn't even tell you this. So she on Father's Day weekend that just passed, she was telling me about um this girl that the school knows that she is a a bop. And I said, What? Because when I say bop, I'm like a song, like a bop. Yeah, so we say that. And she says she's a bop. And I said, What do you mean? And she goes, Well, that's a term for like that we use for something that we can't say. And I said, What are you talking about? And she said, She's a certain type of girl. And I said, Well, what is it? Just tell me, like it's me. And she said, That is a term for a hoe. Oh, we yeah, I've never heard this in my life. Bop house. What is that? Um, see, I don't know what it is. I I think I could have gotten a video of it. Oh, so that's a thing now. And yeah, I but I didn't know that's the only time I've heard it is Bop House.
SPEAKER_01But I just thought that was like a yeah, I don't know. I think it was a bunch of like TikTok, or like I actually think it was like OnlyFan Girls. Oh, I don't know. I don't know, living in this Bob House. But I just thought it was just a name of something.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I like I asked my nephew, and I said, Who actually called so yeah we call them Bob. So I asked him, I said, Do you know what Bob is? And he said he laughed and he was like, Yeah, and I said, What is it? And he told me, and he said it's a girl who like he explained, oh, and I said, Wait, so your whole school, like this is a thing with your age group, and they were like, Yeah, so we just say that because we can't say that word, like we just choose not to, so we all call them Bob. So I was like, What? I'm what they're making their own language for swear words, but this was we I feel like we did that too growing up for certain things. I don't know. I mean, that's kind of wholesome in a way, but it's just terms that are phasing in and out that I'm like transit, like you're not gonna find me saying that. No, but there's certain ones that I'm like, wait, that's a funny term, I'll adopt that. But there's oh, you know which other one that kills me that she says that I kind of love it when someone's chopped. Oh, yeah, I do love that. I love that she stopped. The first time I heard it, I started dying laughing. Chopped. Like, oh my god, she's chopped. I I do love that. Is so funny. Because like also it's not like a new word, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, yeah, so I think that makes it a little bit better. Because like, what is Bop? What is Bop, yeah, like the skimbody toilet, or I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, what is that? But like at least chopped, it actually makes sense. Pop makes like she's that's chopped, yeah. That is so funny. That's so good. The other one was moged, which I know what that is now, but I've initially I was like, I don't understand it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I still don't really understand. Like, if you like you're kind of like rizzing them, I don't think that's what that is. Uh is it like like good face card, right?
SPEAKER_02Then maybe I got the wrong definition for it. I don't even know. Let's chat GBT then. Yeah, see what I'm saying. Let's see. Let's see what this is.
SPEAKER_01Remember when we used to think our parents were like so old to didn't know what we were talking about? Yes.
SPEAKER_02No, that's odd. That's and you know what though? I'm embracing that because there's some things where I go, I don't want to know what that is. Yeah, I actually I'm good. My little I don't need to know that, but it does make it I'm like it makes me sad a little bit, but also I don't want to know. All right, let's see. What is mogged? It's an internet sling, um, meaning someone is visibly outclassed in appearance, hype, status by another person. If someone mogs you, it means they look significantly better, more confident. If you say you got moged, saying you were overshadowed. Oh, okay. So like moggin is like basically if you do look at it. I thought it was like your mocking, you don't.
SPEAKER_01No, so like you were moged and you're not.
SPEAKER_02So you got moged essentially. Like there's like a someone like really more attractive by you. I thought it was like a picture thing or like a ins. I don't know. This is weird, this doesn't make any sense. So, like an example it says that guy mogs everyone in the room, meaning he outshines everyone. Yeah. Or he stood next to his friend and got completely mogged, meaning his friend looks way better, more attractive. He's taller. Okay. I didn't know you could just like I didn't know that there was there's I guess two confusions to it. Huh? Wow. Yeah, I don't know if these I don't know if I'm gonna adopt that one. Yeah, no, it's too confusing. Also, I think for me, also rude to say you got mogged. Like, oh you'd be like, what do you mean? Like mugged? Like my purses right here. Okay, I'm how do I wear this? Oh god, here we go. No, I'm just realizing with this conversation, like I say it. How do I say it? Because I'm just if anything, I feel like I'm getting old with it. We are we are we are well, but you're 28, you're gonna have 29. I just turned 32 this year, so you can still get away with well. I mean, I feel like I'm old, you're young, technically.
SPEAKER_01If you think about it, 28 is like oh, you're almost 30.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, 38. You're like the young baby to the 30s, yes. Okay, I do. I like that perspective shift. Yeah, I don't. Well, no, but you're still young. You're still younger than I'm gonna be. No, someone I worked with today thought that I was 21 this whole time. I can see that. 21, fresh out of college. That's kind of an insult. That's no, you look you look young. I was like, okay, that's what you thought well, but you look young.
SPEAKER_01That's what they were impressed with me because, like, oh my god, this girl, she knows what she's talking about.
SPEAKER_02Look at that.
SPEAKER_01Whatever. Uh anyways.
SPEAKER_02But I lost my train of thought.
SPEAKER_01I'm so sorry. I know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I'm just finding it so interesting that there's terms now that I'm like, what is happening? Or that I think we can both see this to where we know older people. I think about certain a particular older man that's like, I know what you're talking about, and they use these terms and we're like, can you not don't do that? It's so cringy. But do kids think that we're like that? Looks we look young. I don't that's the difference, yeah. But even then, I don't think we're saying it in a cringy extent. It's more so, especially with these guys that we know that are older and they're trying to like date you or just like flirt with you, and they use these young terms that even we don't use, and we're like, okay, you you look, don't say that. You're not making yourself just don't look good, buddy. You look older saying that because you don't know how to you don't know how to sound older. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Just don't do that. Just don't do that. Tip. Yeah. If you are um, I don't know, what age. If you're in your late 30s, if you're in your late 30s and above, do not adapt these.
SPEAKER_02Don't try to adapt. Embrace where you're at. Yeah, that's hot. That's hot. Daddy, use those big words, those big words, strong words. But we, yeah, you have a brain on you because it just also just sounds like brain raw. I think that's the thing. All these terms sound like brain raw, and they are. So when you're trying to say it to like sound cool or something, it just doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01What also is funny though is we'll talk like this and just literally speak of our butts. But we are very professional too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're locked in. Yeah, absolutely. We're just so fun, we're so versatile. We have all the aspects. Yeah, well, we know when to turn what on and when to yeah, when to turn that off. But that is that is funny.
SPEAKER_01But also what's funny is we both have people from work that follow us that we work with. And yeah, it's so interesting that they see just who we are on social media, or I guess like who we really are outside of work, yeah, and then how we're able to be who we are at work, be silly goofy, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like, okay, we're silly goofy, but also home. We mean business. Yeah, we mean business right now. We have brains on us. Yeah, yeah. That is a funny concept when you think about it. Because we're like little kids, but adults. Multifaceted. Yeah. Literally. Multifaceted. Oh, I have a good idea. Okay, so what we're gonna do, pull up your Spotify.
SPEAKER_01Okay, go to your like songs and press shuffle. Let's see what songs pops up.
SPEAKER_02Okay. This is a good song. It's called Waterflow by Klein. Very vibey, very chill. It's actually a good rain song. That is a good rain song.
SPEAKER_01Okay, cool. So that's your first song.
SPEAKER_00My dead and young thumb. Oh, which I do also love.
SPEAKER_03Put it on your face.
SPEAKER_00Okay, next song for you.
SPEAKER_02Okay. For tomorrow. This country? It's like folk indie. If you know me, you know I love folk indie too. I'm obsessed. Um, never again by John Hart.
SPEAKER_00I love Folk Indie, but I feel like you like more folk than indie.
SPEAKER_02I like more indie than folk. Yeah. I do love both. I do appreciate a lot. Well, I really like the oldie like stuff. The folk. Give me the folk. Yeah. Give me what the folk. What the folk? Give me the like it's just a lot of the oldie stuff. Yeah. I grew up with it. I like that. I love those. That is the funniest difference of transitions. Like, what do you got? How does that somehow sum up our personalities multifaceted, but also that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. But we like everything. We when we say that, we literally mean it. Yeah. We do like pretty much everything. There's like very minimal that we're like, yeah, we can vibe to everything. That's so true. I think that's important. We really can dance to anything. To anything. We'll find a way. Don't worry. We'll find a dance. We'll find some. There's always a dance move that just goes to every song. This is it. Yeah. Gretel has a signature dance move, and it's essentially her putting up like her loser and her thumb. Yeah, making like an L but with both hands and then just shaking her shoulders, like leaning into it back and forth. Mine is like the Yeah. Yours like mine's like a little bit more. I don't know. Like sway with my arms up. Elbows. Elbows. Sat too. Sat. Elbows. Sat to sad. Like a cholo. Is that is that a racist term? Like a cholo? Yeah. No, because a cholo is like a but I heard it.
SPEAKER_01That's now like a because I thought it was like a cool way of saying just I don't know, swaggy. I thought it was like like swag. Like they had swag.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Like that kind of style. Like, oh, it's a cholo. Like yeah, that's interesting. I thought it was a positive. I don't think it's like a bad thing either. Maybe because I am Hispanic too. So I'm like, I don't because I'm Mexican. So I don't think of it because I'm basically Mexican. You are. Yeah. Panagringa. You are. I've been adopted. Yeah. People think that you speak Spanish. I know.
SPEAKER_01It's crazy how many people think that you speak Spanish. Yeah. And even when I was in Panama, people were speaking Spanish to me.
SPEAKER_02And it makes and it makes sense too. And also like in Miami and stuff, people because a lot of cultures I feel like you look like you. Yeah, I feel like I vibe more with Hispanic culture. Yeah. Than any other culture. Hence why I'm here. Exactly. That was meant to be my cult. You know, I'm like, come to us. She's one of us. She's one of us. She's here. I'm here. Alright. Also, guys, we would love to have some feedback of what you would like us to talk about. Yeah. You know? Like, just give us some ideas. Yeah. Let us know what you enjoy listening to. Because we've we actually got a pretty good feedback last week, which I appreciate. Yeah. We really appreciate it. Even that constructive criticism. Love that. Yeah. We're working on things. Yeah. We're also learning this. We've never done this before, but that's okay. We're learning as we go. And also at the end of the day, we're just doing this for fun. And whatever comes from it, great. And fame and fortune. Yeah. Fame and fortune. And if it doesn't, also that's not our end goal. We don't have an end goal. There is no end goal out. We're just vibing. And um, we hope you guys do enjoy it. Yeah. Well not, but you do because you're listening and you're back. You're back. And you're here. And you're here. And we love and appreciate that. We really do. Do you want to um wrap us up with a really, really important question, guys? I would love to. Okay. So this is this is what we've been waiting for. Eric Cassandra, are you listening? It's for you. Listen up.
SPEAKER_01Especially Eric and Cassandra. Would you rather have your fingers be your toes or your toes be your fingers?
SPEAKER_02My finger? I have to envision it. My fingers be my toes. And your toes are your fingers. I would rather have my fingers be my toes because I can imagine how much I can get done. I could be writing a letter if I need to, signing papers of some sort with my toes. Hmm. You know, mm-hmm. They're nice, long, lanky. They could be doing I could be cooking. I could be cooking purifying visual. Yeah. I could be curiosity. You're having octopus. Sometimes I feel like I wish I was, you know, because I'm like, I have so much to do. I know. That's so true. That'd be so handy. Exhaust, though. Yeah. I say that at work a lot. I'm like, I wish I had another extra arm. Octopi are very intelligent. So intelligent. Emotionally, too. They're in tune. That sounds great, because else you have little nubs on your hands.
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SPEAKER_02You can't do anything. They're just little, yeah. Would you rather have the opposite? Yeah, you're agreeing with me now, huh? No, I think it honestly would be so funny to have nubs. So okay, so technically you have the nubs, but you still have your nails, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So then you just have to. The thing is, is I have the longest fingers. I'm going to switch it up. I'm used to getting hate about my who hates you for your hands and things?
SPEAKER_02Who does that? I'll beat them up. Many people. I'll give you the list. Yeah, give me the list after this. I won't I won't out them. Give me their address.
SPEAKER_01Or will I? Or you know who you are. Yeah. Yeah. And I was very insecure about it for a while.
SPEAKER_02But with your little hands, you're gonna drop things.
SPEAKER_01It's okay. You'll be there to pick it up. My feet. Yeah. But those legs. I have you. This is great. We both have people will do more for me if I have jobs.
SPEAKER_02They'll feel bad. This is to your advantage, actually. You're like, actually, I can't type the email our nubs. So then here comes me with my toes. Let me let me type it for you. So this was all planned. You want to you ask this question because you want me to do these things. Because you don't want to do it. Oh shoot, you caught me. I don't ask questions come out of nowhere. This might be up there, but you know what? That makes sense. This might be up there. Do more for me, Karen. Yeah, horse and duck questions. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good. Yeah. We're gonna have to go to our couples therapist for this one. Yeah, I'm gonna be dreaming of this now. Like nightmares. The toes. Karen. Aging. There's that paper. You can't squeeze a lemon technically with those little nubs. No, I could. Oh you have those lemon squeezers. But imagine they give you a little wedge. You're not getting anything out of that wedge. It's just gonna slip out. Just gonna thank goodness I have here. And then you have me with my toes. Fair. Scary, you better wash those suckers real good. Yeah, like little like Adams family hands.
SPEAKER_01Because I mean as much as you wash your hands, you have to wash your feet hands. My feet and just as frequent. So imagine that.
SPEAKER_02Then we really can't wear flip-flops. Not no clown shoes for life, really. Or honestly, curl them. Curl that curl. Oh yeah. No, that'd be you cannot.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that would really hurt. Imagine running and oh gosh, it's a horror movie now. Yeah. Yeah, I am gonna have nightmares. What a morbid question.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, anyways, form your own opinion and then give it back to us. And then let us know your thoughts because you guys like to do that. And I appreciate that. And we like to tell you guys our thoughts.
SPEAKER_01So on that note, tune in next Sunday for episode number four.
SPEAKER_02Number four, lucky number four. Also, happy um midway 2026. Happy pride. Happy pride, guys. It's June. Anyway, yeah. Anyway, yeah. We'll see you next week. See you next week. Ta for now, boy.