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SPEAKER_04 0:01

Hey guys, try not to look too deep into my eyes because it's a known fact. You'll fall in love. Hey, trust me, I don't make the rules. I just enforce them.

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:18

Dude, I'm so happy, guys. You know who we have today. Both mics to it. My name is Maria. And she's our ghost hunting partner and our podcast partner.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Yes. This is the trio, honestly. Right.

SPEAKER_04 0:35

You know where she was when the first one dropped, which is why she wasn't in it.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Germany.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Fucking Germany.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Living a life.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Like, why come back? But I'm so blessed that you did.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

But yeah, the jump in, boring. You know what I'm saying? This is my worker partner, by the way. So she's strong. She's quite fucking strong.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Well, I used to be.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Yeah, she's gonna get there.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Yeah, I was about to say. You're about to get right back. About to get right back.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

I just wanted to say thank you for having me on. Thanks for having me on. She's so proper.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

I know, right? I love her so much. Guys, guys, I think I'm gonna start us off with some shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

What's the shit? All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

I gotta look at my notes. Hold on. Totally fine. Real professional, man. I'm gonna I'm gonna start off with it's something that I read over the weekend and it really fucked me up. So listen, I'm gonna start it off with this. Okay. When we stand admiss the force of nature, we too become limitless and boundless because that same love that flows gently between the rocks within the river also flows through our veins. The same rage that the ocean unleashes on the headland in pursuit of constant change and evolution also exists inside of us. The same ancestral wisdom that is kept safe and guarded by the trees is also innate within human beings. Which leads me to I guess like the theme of today. It dawned on me when I read this article that like nature, earth, is literally just us, our being. And why do you think we hate it so much?

SPEAKER_00 2:34

You know, me personally, I love it. I love everything, every bit about nature, from being outside to walking into the parks. I love it. I hate that humanity destroys everything, man. Everything that we touch, we destroy. From the forests to the oceans to the sky, bro. It's just suck.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

No, I don't think it's that we hate nature per se. I think it's just that we like convenience. And in order to have convenience now, we have to we're destroying nature.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Yeah. But also, I I wouldn't say like we intentionally hate nature either. So let me go back on that. Like, I'm not saying we like purposely wake up every day to throw a fucking can in the ocean. Not like that type of vibe, but it's more of a I feel we subconsciously hate Earth and nature because we all don't know our being, ourselves, our true purpose here, our true being here. And it's like when people like really start digging deep into what they call shadow work or something like that, and not be so fucking shallow, dude. You start really realizing, like, like, okay, listen, I'ma I'm gonna do this because listen, when I talk, guys, it's a whole lot, but like it's a story at the end. I almost listen. If you're on the same journey, like spiritual growing in nature and on the same vibe as me, you'll understand by the end. But I'm telling you, I'm not in order when I speak. So look, so like nature, earth has all you know, the bad side and the good side, it provides for us. This is how we survive. Of course, literally, it is made for us, but then it also brings disasters, it takes from us, but like so do we. Why do like okay, so the reason why things happen in nature, like hurricanes or some natural disasters or you know, scarcities, things of that sort, that's the same thing that goes on for us as far as emotional changes, as far as um, you know, like anything. Like, I don't dude, listen, I'm losing my words, but how can I put this? What are you holding on?

SPEAKER_01 5:09

So let me kind of let me kind of get like some clarification. You're saying that our emotional storms are similar to the storms we see in nature, kind of like that, or some or something different? It's exactly that.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

Okay, this without the whole earth. Sorry, I'm reading my notes. Without the whole earth, equals we only be one without the one. Okay, so listen. Okay, and what yes can take from us, but there is a good and evil with everything. We have to grow to accept both parts of my okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Here we all have my name.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

Look, you know how there's always a good and an evil with everything, right? Right, that's uh that's a theme we all know, okay. And there's a good and an evil with human beings, whether you want to admit it or not, like you we have an evil side. If I wanted to be fucking Jeffrey Dahmer tonight, I can't, but you that's where free will comes into play. Hang with me, okay. Since we all have a good and evil side, we all know that, so does nature, but not just nature, so does everything in this world. Everything that is good for you can also be horrible for you in the same sense, but we have to learn how to shake hands with that to truly become one and flow like nature. That fucking arrow shit, that circle shit, once again, is what our being is supposed to be and how we're supposed to be living, but we are so conditionally fucked up to hate ourselves that we completely disregard nature, we completely disregard connection, and connecting back to nature is literally our natural state. That's what the fuck we were made out of, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Man, like the Native Americans, they was always good with nature now.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Now, there is a thing too that because you said we're conditioned to hate ourselves, and I think that makes sense because when you're in nature, you have to be very, very introspective, right? Right, so it could be a part of it too, is like we don't want to be in nature because that forces us to take a look back at ourselves and kind of like it's a scary reflection, yes, like come to terms.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

Like, if if you like question anybody, like everyone in this world, including me, claims, oh, I want you to speak the truth to me. I want true friends. But what your ass do when someone really calls you out.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

You get you get butthurt. Um bro, you get butthurt. You're gonna be in your feelings for sure. Like, damn, that's how you really feel, but it's not it's not even necessarily a bad thing. Like, I like like when the homie's like, oh, this was wrong, you shouldn't have done this, that, and the third. You right? Let me go sit back and reflect. I think it takes the person to really you see their true character if they can't handle, you know, the truth.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

And that's something too, like the ability to reflect. That's something we've been taught. So if you're not taught that, then too, it's so it's like a generational thing.

SPEAKER_04 8:17

Like we've been for generations, and it's also see that's where the the bad can come, at least in my opinion. Like, it's a teaching thing, everything is a teaching thing, it all depends on what you've been taught, but also, even if you were taught, were you taught the like actual uh I don't know, truth, or were you guided by a strict religion, or guided by a strict sexuality, or guided by no choice? You gotta be you gotta be your parent, you know? Yeah, you know it's crazy. It's like actually fucking crazy thinking about it. Because it's like, will this ever end?

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Nah, I don't think it will. I think it's kind of the community that you grow up around, the people that you grow around. I feel like it's kind of ingrained in some people's families, in some people's beliefs, and shit like that. So I think this is gonna be a repeating cycle.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Forever. But don't you think also that we've taken steps to hear voices. I'm sorry. Um, I feel like we have, because things seem bad now, but I feel like we've taken steps because we've had to. Over time, our civilizations have like merged and we've created new ones and had to get more comfortable with each other.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

So will we really be friends back in the day? You never know. You never know. You never know. It's the 1950s. I walk past Maria, I might die.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Dude, that actually is diabolical to say.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

But that's the truth, that's the truth, though. That's the truth. You I honestly brought because you're you're mixed.

SPEAKER_04 10:05

Would you go, would you go pull the skin tone card again? Because you're very good at doing that.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

You could get away with a lot more shit, but that hair texture, they might get you for that, bro.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

And that's a that shit is just I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

I know.

SPEAKER_04 10:24

That's a whole nother topic.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

That's a whole nother topic talking, dude. But that's a whole topic that we can never forget.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Never, like, ever, but these are all this is all happening in this world, like, as far as racism, segregation, etc. Yeah, as far as all of this is all a form of control. It is a form of control, it's from the higher ups, it's from the higher ups, and they and coincidentally, those are the motherfuckers that are like actually destroying nature.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Yeah, yeah. That's how they get their money. Everything reroils about money. If you're not getting money, you're not shit, so you know.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

That's what I'm saying. And it's just like, bro, okay, okay, like, cool, get money. I'm not saying like I don't want a little bit more money than what I got. I'm broke as shit. But like to a certain extent, how much of money of anything do you like honestly need?

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Right. I think it's more of a ego type of thing, you know? When like you got people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, the Rockefellers, the people that run the banks and shit like that. I think it's more like, oh, I got more money than you. I could do whatever the fuck I want. Like, when you see people like the sex traffickers of the world, it's all about money. The the drug trafficker of the world, it's all about money, and I feel like the higher-ups were like you go back in time and it's a lot of CIA documents where you talk about, yeah, we put drugs here, that, and the third. It's just, it's just, it's just a sick, sick game.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

But also, I think that it's really sad too, because it's not like a lot of these people started out greedy. It's not like they started out corrupt, it made them corrupt, like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs. They just had an idea that everyone loved.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

So I think it's the system too that has really Yeah, I think it's like it's like multiple.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

It's like, you know how they say iron sharpens iron. The people you hang around, you kind of build. Yeah. I feel like, okay, cool. Bill Gates, once again, he was poor like us, but he ended up getting his money worse. And I feel like the people that he started to hang around started to make him like more corrupt and shit like that. So I feel like it really do depend like on who you hang around.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

That's actually a true fucking thing. And me personally, all of us, right? We're all like uh believers in God, correct? Yes, here, okay. You don't have to be, but I'm just saying, we all like at least us, we grew up on the Bible, and in the Bible it literally says that. Like, you have to watch your surroundings, you have to you have to watch who you hang around. Because like subconsciously, you do end up becoming them. Like, bro, ever since coming back home to Toledo for this little bit, I have become lazy or I have become like I have become what else? What else have I become? Lazy or unlike unmotivated, etc. You don't have to be quiet. Please be as loud as you want.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

No, you're not good, man.

SPEAKER_04 13:37

I was gonna say this your place, baby. Um, what was I saying? Yeah, I became lazier. I became like it's a part of me that really doesn't want to keep pursuing my passion, what I know I'm born born here to do. And I'm finding it now, babe. Calm down, but it's still just like one of those aspects like holy shit, like a place, uh, a group, a person can really just completely change you without without you even seeing it because you're in the fucking moment.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Actually, I have something to say about that. Um, my brother came up with this idea, it's called the Toledo curse. And what he says is that um he thinks there's a curse on Toledo that if you leave you're unhappy and you end up coming back, but you also are unhappy in Toledo, and I think that goes along with like this not unhappy, but like maybe you can't achieve your full potential because there's nowhere to achieve it, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 14:44

Your brother on some shit. I was about to say that's 100% true. Yeah, like when I was living in New York, in Texas, I fucking hated it. Honestly, I think I rightfully still hate New York. I love y'all to a certain extent, it's just too many, but I fucking hated it everywhere I went, and I wanted to come home so bad, don't fucking know why. And then I'm back and I fucking hate it. Like, I think it's just human beings. We just like to complain. Yeah, like why can't we be satisfied and happy? Maybe that's that's where greed comes in.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Holy shit. Do you think you hated it because you were unfamiliar with the area?

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Like you don't know nobody really, you know, and it's like a completely different change of pace, change of scenery. Like, what was it about? What did you hate about it?

SPEAKER_04 15:38

What I hated about Texas was quite honestly, this is about to be so shallow. I always had car problems. My batteries melt in like a day in my car. I would be melting in my fucking car. Um also, fun fact, you know, I don't think I should, you know what, no, I'm gonna say Texas people born and raised are a little odd. Yeah, and I mean that in the most Republican way possible of them. Type shit. Because like it's like they won't necessarily be horrible people, and I'm not trying to categorize them. I have best friends there, I love them. But it's just some morals and values that is completely way off from how I was raised in Toledo, and I'm not saying that's a determinant, but what I am saying, it if I label the category morals, is it's deeper than some stupid shit you learned growing up in the hood, like in Toledo. Like, it's just some shit like, dude, you were programmed, like you know when you're in a state that has prom predominantly been a Republican state. Like, I can't explain it, but you just know Divide the people, how they act.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Yeah, are they like fake kind of like they be all cool in your face to turn around and well I couldn't really give you that kind of answer because I I'm in the most fakest industry of acting, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:12

So that those were primarily the people that I was surrounded by. Um, so I couldn't really give you an unbiased answer to that. So I'm not going to. And I'm so sorry. I really do have I love everyone that I met in Texas, and they're on my Instagram now, they'll see this. It's no hate, it's just you have you notice, you notice it. Like you see the difference amongst people in different states and different ways of thinking, and then Texas, Texas too, ironically, is the most quote unquote religious fucking state. Like, I'm talking churches everywhere, but these churches are huge, like million-dollar churches, and it's like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, you're losing the point, and also not to mention, there's hella cults down there, word, bro. Dude, you are blowing up. She is popular.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Wait, is that your brother? No, no, no, no. It's our boss. It's our yeah or it's my boss right now.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

Y'all supposed to be at work? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

What time is it?

SPEAKER_04 18:23

I should not answer.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Nah, nah, we're we're busy right now. Steven can wait.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

Or call him and be like, I'm in a car accident. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

I can't, yeah. I forgot what I was saying. Or did you, or is that about the uh it's about the okay, okay, okay. He probably has no clue what he's reading right now, so he just needs to walk through.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Yeah, well, I said that they were gonna give him a well, this is it's not important information. Oh, I'm sorry. Dude, it's tell him. Oh, if you want. Yeah, so I'm applying to the fire department for Toledo, the Toledo Fire Department. Holy shit. And um, I just called them to ask if he would give me a reference. So it was he's probably calling me about that.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

No, no, I think you you want to go take it? No, I can give him a call back. You sure? Yeah. Let's see.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

No, the Fs.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

He's also gonna ask you to work.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

I love that you want to be a fire a firefighter.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Yeah, I uh I really think yeah, I really think it'd be a good fit for me. So I'm hoping I am a firefighter.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

That's gonna be so fucking cool. That's speaking of fucking firefighters. What do you want to say?

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Well Micah was also talking about maybe being a firefighter. Oh, so yeah, this is this is amazing, guys.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

I try to get in shape first so I can run and shit, you know, dude.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

You're already in fucking shape. Fuck that test. Cause guess what? Let's do the firefire test like by ourselves once like every two weeks.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

See how far we grow. You guys would definitely it's it's I did it, it's not that hard. Not like it's like well, the one I did was introductory, but it you just wear a 40-pound vest and you have to do a series of um activities, but there's no running, there's only walking.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

So that was already broke, man. I can't I can't oh I hate running. I hate it in football. That shit, yeah, bro. But that's cool. I got a 40 pound plus I got a 40-pound vest at home. Might go ahead and start working on that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

And I have one if you wanted to do it.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

Dude, we're fucking doing this. We're setting it up, we're gonna record it for you guys. This could be great.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Yeah, it's actually pretty fun. Well, we just need a few supplies.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

Um okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

What supplies are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 20:58

We would need a massive tire.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

I could get one of them.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Oh, you got a massive tire?

SPEAKER_04 21:03

Yeah. Um great, you have those on deck.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

If it's still there, I could get one.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

We could actually do it at we would need a sled. Um, and would you attach a rope to it and you pull it towards you? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Is it like when they crawl and pull it towards you?

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Kind of. Okay. Yeah. And then we would need a CPR dummy. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

I don't think I could get one ago.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Honestly, we could just use anything.

SPEAKER_04 21:28

So we'll use each other. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't don't you like break their ribs when you're doing it? See, I don't know if anyone can pass out by me or like die for a second around me. Cause like, bro, I won't have the guts to give you CPR because I'm gonna break you. But that's the whole point. Like, they're gonna be alive, but I can't comprehend that. It's not I need to mention that.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

You will be a great candidate for a firefighter, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:58

Hello, do you? Did you just hear what I said? Yeah, no, I heard what you said. Dude, they'll die with me.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

I think it takes practice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Or like a EMS worker.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Mm-hmm. Or you get the office. I do think they have office positions.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

Hey.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

And I heard it's really good pay being a firefighter.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

And there's um, like you can work up the ladder. Yeah. So wait.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

The test doesn't involve a rope. Like, you know how they I always I don't know if this is true, but I just always grew up on the fact that firehouses have a fucking rope. Oh, the pole that they slide down? Oh, it's a pole.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Yeah. No, so there's no pole no more? No climbing. Wait, what'd you say?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

I said they don't got the pole no more.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Some of them do. Yeah. Some of them do. But yeah. No running, no climbing. Mostly just being able to walk in a 40 con vest.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

You know what? That seems kind of cool. Maybe I should apply.

SPEAKER_04 23:07

I think you should.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:09

Bro, what's the worst case scenario? They say no, and you're not a firefighter.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Oh yeah. I forgot about that part. But how can you? I mean, what the pros are so much more.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

You never know when God pulled your card. He's like, oh, you want to be a firefighter? This is your destination. You go try to save somebody in the house fire. Boom. A fat ass log just fall on me and I'm stuck.

SPEAKER_04 23:37

Okay, speaking of that, speaking of death, why are we so afraid of death?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

You know, I'm not really scared to die.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

But you just said that.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

True. But I think, like, if the time and place come, I think I probably accept it. Like now, it really much like it. I think it's the the the way that you die that scares people.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Like I don't want to die in the fire. I think that's probably one of the worst ways you go out is burning.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

Yeah, I was gonna say it's like the fear of the pain.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

And also the fear of what you're gonna leave behind. And if everyone's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:16

Dude, and that's I I didn't I didn't like have a you know how some people grow up with that like abnormal fear of death, of dying. Um I didn't grow up with that, but I did always wonder, especially since I grew up religious, like, okay, when we when we die, we just like what happens? Like, is it immediately all black? Or like does our life really flash on our eyes? Like, you know, like give me a whole fucking timeline of me, I guess. Let me see more of me, and then uh, or I don't know, it's a strange concept to think about though.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Have you guys seen the movie Flatliners? No, no, I have we talked about this. It's like this movie about these um they're like PhD students, and they purposefully kill themselves and then bring themselves back to life to see what happens right after you die. And it's about like the out-of-body experiences they have. I think it's it's probably something like that. I hope.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

Dude, you just made me look he want to try that, but I'm not, I'm not. Swear to god, don't don't try it either, y'all. That shit, don't piss me off. Don't piss me off. But how come as scientists we haven't did some shit like that to discover more?

SPEAKER_00 25:37

I don't know. Because they already know. Probably the Vatican probably fucking knows how you die. What happened?

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Wait, why didn't you say that?

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Because the Vatican knows everything about everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

And you know what they are saying, whatever wait, before I say this, aren't they fucking Catholics? Yeah, yeah, Catholics. Yeah, and it's just okay. I don't even know if I want to go down that route. I won't. I'll reroute back to death. Um, which leads us into why we are journeying off into ghost hunting. Um, because this is just like if you did grow up religious, you either go to heaven or hell, or what they call purgatory. I still don't get that shit, but anyways, you either go to three places, but like it doesn't make sense because how the fuck can you die and we can still talk to you, or like we can still get voices from certain people when you're supposed to be in one place or the other? How are you still communicating? Even if you never had a spiritual uh experience, how the fuck can some of this shit be real? Like you need to be in one place or the other, or or is it this point that I had an epiphany over this? Is already the fucking promised land? We're already on the land. This is our land forever, no matter how many fucking levels of life we go on, this is our land forever. It's always here. Why the fuck y'all think Moses died before reaching the land? Because he's already on it. The fucking point of that story, if you really see and really read, like Jesus always says, because he talks in parables, was the journey of finding themselves, the Egyptians, and Moses learning how not to doubt him within. Oh yeah, and then he fucking died. Like, no, God's not gonna do that to somebody. We're already here.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Now, if you so by saying that, do you think that then if this is the land that we're just reincarnating, always on the same land, or is it is that kind of what you're getting at?

SPEAKER_04 27:57

I guess reincarnate. I don't really like that word, but yeah, in a sense, because and in the end of the Bible, too, it also says heaven is just earth refurbished, basically, to sum it up. I don't know the words, but that's exactly what he said, and it's just like why else would that be there in the Bible? Granted, this Bible is motherfucking, you know, interpreted differently to control us, so it's certain shit you have to beware of when you read. So none of this is like law, what I'm saying, but I will say, why the fuck would we just die and go all the way up in the sky? And you know, that's ideal. Yeah, I want to be in heaven if there is one, but I think we're already on heaven.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Honestly, that's kind of a scary thought that we're already on heaven because if this is there, is another thought, too, though. That so, like, what do you think the ghosts are? Like, in this, if we're already on heaven, what are ghosts, dude?

SPEAKER_04 29:14

That's what I don't know. I don't know. Is that gonna be a do we die? Do we die and reunite with our same family? But we're on different levels now. Do we remember how fucked up our chemistry was with each other prior, or do we restart, or do we have a completely different family? Like, what happens?

SPEAKER_01 29:36

I've always liked to think that maybe ghosts are the ones that are, and they've said this ghosts are the people with unfinished business, so they're in purgatory, like what the Catholics would say is purgatory, yeah, and they're waiting to move on.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

I always hear that too, but it's like the lost ones that's like always in the same spot. Like you go to a hospital, like say that we go to an abandoned hospital and we do like a little what is it called the investigation, a little not the investigation, but like what's the machine that you use where you can hear them talk through?

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Oh, the EVP?

SPEAKER_00 30:09

Yeah, we've got the spirit box, the spirit box or whatever. Like, don't you think it's weird that they kind of just stay in one spot sometimes, most of the time?

SPEAKER_04 30:16

That's what I'm saying, but I think that's that goes back to our mind and our perception on ourselves. If we don't accept the good and evil of ourself and truly heal from everything that this life has given us, if we are still in that mindset of I'm stuck, or you know, like what you call the Toledo curse mindset, when you die, then you will stay there. It's just like when you die, you literally, it's the same journey that you're on here. You when you're finished, it's when you completely remember your being and who you are inside. But that's why it's like I think it may be a journey, and that's like I guess the beauty in it. I don't fucking think this shit's beautiful at all. But like, I think the spirits that are quote unquote stuck are in purgatory, which I used to believe, like literally a couple of months ago, but then now it's like can't nobody be stuck. You we cannot be stuck nowhere, we can't be stuck financially, we can't be stuck like love life-wise, we are not made to be stuck. This world is made to work for us, to be for us. The earth is literally made to provide for us and to destroy us if we let it. But the same goes with our mind. And if we are still in that same ass mindset when we die, you got two choices whether to fucking accept yourself and really look deeply into yourself, which none of us want to do because we're scared, or stay in the same fucking place that you did when you died. Hey man, nigga, you preaching, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

You preaching with dog, right? It is, yeah. Man, you be having good epiphanies though. I do hey, she be having great epiphanies, dog.

SPEAKER_04 32:03

It's just crazy to think about, dude. I've always been like, you guys have to have been too. I don't even need to know it, but a curious person by nature, like very fucking curious of shit. Like, I just feel like people are so stopped by right and wrong or black and white. Like, no, this can't be it. That's that that that's not it. It's scientifically this, okay. How about you tell me where we go when we die? Because you don't, you just you read a fucking book that told you the answer. Like, you're lazy, you don't take the time to like truly dig deep into the unknown, the shit we don't know. And granted, we're not supposed to unknow any of this shit. This is our home, this is for us. We already know, but that's the journey in life to remember our fucking being. But what do you think is being prioritized in this day and age? Money, social media, money, followers, external shit. That's the devil if you let it, but that motherfucker really don't exist. The devil does not exist. You need to tell me God made a heaven where we go to when we die, and we're all so good and perfect. Why the fuck? We would never have a thought to disobey God once we're in heaven. That's not real. Why the that's not fucking real? I thought that was your uh fucking job, dude. Again, I was gonna say, no, you're gonna take that. But it's not fucking real. The devil isn't real, it's just good and evil in this world. Free will. Learn the true definition of free will, not this shallow ass shit that's preached, just like words like love and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

This shit is not low-key forgot. Low-key forgot that's supposed to be drawly off. So I'm gonna lack that position.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

I mean, who are you drawing?

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Um, or draw Maria. Did you tell them your name? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

I'm not the best artist, but we're gonna get this shit done.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

Why would you say that?

SPEAKER_00 34:13

Dude, because you lied last time.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

What? What?

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Yeah, baby, you lied last time. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 34:20

They didn't even see it yet, but it's okay, guys. You'll be beautiful if they come on, come on. They'd be like, no, I ain't coming on that shit.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Um, okay, I have I have something I've always thought about, and I wonder what you guys think about it is so we have they say two kind of parts of us, and that's our physical body, and then whatever our energy is, like our mental energy, our you know what what gives us life. So when we die, all that energy drains out of us. And where does that energy go? I think that's one of the greatest, like one of the greatest, what would you say?

SPEAKER_03 35:10

What like greatest, what? Uh like unknowns?

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Um, like unknowns and like proofs that there's energy that goes somewhere after we die.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Cause you know, you're um what do they say it can be created or destroyed?

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Yes, yeah, no, is it no matter?

SPEAKER_00 35:29

Yeah, yeah, no matter can be created or destroyed. No, I feel like when we die, like you said, our souls kind of just float around and just travel somewhere, you know.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

Yeah, yeah, and like so. I want to say just float around, like float around so casually like that, but like I feel like when we when we die, you float around if you still are on this journey to figure your being out, which is fine, by the way. Like, it's totally fine, like there's literally no rush on this earth, but everything is so fast, everything we have to do this, we have to do that. Everything's about a destination, and it's not. That's why Moses never reached the land. It's not about a destination, it's not about your acting career, it's not about money, it's literally about you remembering your being. This shit isn't fucking real. Actually, this motherfucker not gonna be able to take shit seriously.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Uh well, yeah, you're right. I'm just I'm trying to get the eyes right and it's fucking me up. It's fucking me up.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Can I have um can I read you some song there?

SPEAKER_04 36:43

Oh, yeah. True. Hey, we may have to take a pee break. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Like, but guys, guys, I was so fucking scared using that restroom. Why? First of all, I don't like using public restrooms. I cover the entire toilet in or I try to squat. But listen, I'm not a straight peer, but more of the story is I thought I was gonna get abducted the entire time. I'm like, fuck, someone's gonna, you know, put that rag on my face, and I'm like, ah, damn. Like, I just get nervous about that. Like, being a woman is so fucking scary. Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

No, you're right. Oh, read her the thing, because honestly, what she read fits into what we've been talking about.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Okay. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

And I feel like you can interpret more because you've been preaching. No, shut the fuck up. It's preacher.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

You're okay. Sorry for to read it again. Um, it's a song by Don't say sorry. Well, to the podcast to the camera. Um so this is a song by Daft Punk. Okay. And there's these lines in it, and I'll read like last ones. It says, Remember, love is our only mission. This is a journey of the soul. The perfect song is framed with silence. It speaks of places never seen. Your home is a promise long forgotten. It is the birthplace of your dreams. And I don't know, whenever I hear the song, because what you were talking about, how when you were saying like you feel like we have to learn ourselves, like this whole time we're on this earth, we're like trying to find out where we're from, like, we're trying to like get this information and find like our home. Like, I feel like that's it, or something.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

Yeah, because like I was saying, with the external world, so you know, evolving technology, etc. What the fuck ever? Um, first of all, we have kids coming out with already having fucking titties. Like, first of all, what are they putting in our food? Are we talking about it? Anyways, back to the top.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

No, we can talk about that.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

We are literally evolving so much in this world, and it's just strictly to distract us from like finding ourselves from like finding the soul, like all of this shit, this external shit that's being so prioritized, and everyone wants to be everyone, every everyone's trying to be conformed, and that is gonna forever keep us fucking trapped.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Everybody wanna be the next big thing, man.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Mm-hmm. Everybody which I suppose there's nothing wrong with that, but it's when you become so distracted with uh how much money you can get, how many followers you're like everything you've been saying that they become obsessed with it and like uh not even in a good way, in a bad way.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Like I get like people want to be YouTube famous, TikTok famous, and all that shit. But I feel like they forget their morals when they also try to reach that goal, and once they reach it, they just completely forget who they is, where they come from, shit like that. Not everybody, but many people, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Right, and it's also just I'm not saying it's a bad thing either to like want to be something, want to you know, because all of us are here for a certain passion, a certain reason, reason. I'm not taking that from any of us, but it is, especially nowadays, it's just people being the same, wanting to be like everyone, dude. You can't do that. Sorry, what do you do? He's like over here chuckling at me because I know he's he's not Picasso like me, guys.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Let me tell you, he's not Picasso, she's not fucking Picasso neither though.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

First of all, this isn't it's okay, like it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 40:29

You know what? Swear to god, we're having a drawing competition on one podcast, and you guys better pick me. Look at me, I'm proving the point of the world. I need their validation immediately. But wait, what were we talking about before this? It was off of the song. Oh, we're just so everything is being evolved in this world just to distract us. And I think I find it funny how the most uh the most vital source of information for our the actual truth is in music, and that's what everyone categorizes as the devil. And they labeled him a fucking musician up in heaven. I guess he played fucking violins.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

I think he was made of music, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_04 41:20

Like made of instruments, yeah, something like that. But it's like shut the fuck up. They just don't want us to really turn to the truth. Amen.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

Music be preacher.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Like, what is like one what is your prime example of music showing us the truth?

SPEAKER_04 41:38

Oh my gosh, tears for fear. Is that is that what they're called? You know, the song Everybody. Oh my gosh, dude. Like, I always loved that song, but um, I really didn't pay attention to the words, if I'm being honest, until I started going through the spiritual journey here in Toledo, and it fucked me up because it was literally just it was some of the basically the same thing that that song said, but in a different way. I don't know, but it's just it was like one of those old moments. Holy shit, it's been right in our face the entire time. But we would never see it if we don't choose to actually see it, just like ourselves. We would never see our bad, our our flaws, because we never try.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yeah, some people can't handle their flaws though, honestly, and they don't want to face it.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

I mean, well, because it's much easier to ignore it, to ignore it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

Yeah, it's so much easier.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

It is also, I think that goes back to that, like what we were saying before about how like things get worse when they're passed down. It's like when people don't have the tools to like reflect and look at themselves, then they can't, like, they can't really look at their boss.

SPEAKER_04 43:02

Yeah, and that goes back to your point, Micah. Like, about it's all about who you surround yourself with, it's all about who you surround yourself with. Because, like, if you were surrounded by people that are okay with staying the same, okay with being who they are, and not changing or trying at all for you for a better connection or relationship, whatever what have you, then you will forever remain in that mindset.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

How about how about we end it and you you show them the photo? Fuck off. Wait, wait, first. Okay, first, how are we gonna say goodbye to you guys?

SPEAKER_04 43:53

Yep, our microphones officially died. Hope you all enjoyed the podcast with the curious folks and hope to see you back. Bye bye, guys.