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O que Deus faz quando encontra um coração disposto a obedecer? Nesta mensagem, Benhour Lopes conduz uma reflexão profunda a partir da história de Naamã, mostrando que grandes milagres muitas vezes começam com pequenas atitudes de fé. Um convite para abandonar o orgulho, voltar à simplicidade de uma criança e confiar plenamente na direção de Deus. Descubra como uma simples obediência pode marcar o início de uma nova história em Cristo.

Abba Church Marlboro • Domingo da Palavra • 2026 — Ano da Identidade

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Good morning of a church. Are you happy? In the name of Jesus. Say amen.

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We honor the life of Pastor Salvelina.

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Thank you so much.

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For teaching us so much every day.

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Close your eyes for a moment. Father, we thank you for our pastors. Thank you for the pastor. We honor them as a church. Thank you because you generated in them. The opportunity to be a church.

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Let's go to the word of the Lord. There's something precious from Him here today. It might have sounded random. Or completely off topic.

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Let's go to the Gospel of Luke. Okay? Lucas capital 4. Luke 4.

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Okay.

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So you take a Bible. Get ready to take some notes. I recommend to get one.

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I always tell that story. And we get old, we start repeating ourselves. But I'll never forget when I came to preach to church. And it was so high tech. And I had my Bible with me, you know? And two little kids at the door.

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They looked at me and they said, Wow, he brought the original.

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Because they'd never actually seen a paper one before.

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Okay.

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But anyway.

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Let's go. Lucas capital 4. Luke chapter 4.

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Let me build this up for you.

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The Father himself bore witness. And now he is walking full of the Holy Spirit.

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So where did Jesus go?

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To Nazareth. Why? There was a synagogue.

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We like to tell our brothers.

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Guys, where are the girls? Oh, one second.

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I'll go back to my story. My program's all over the place. Sorry. I make an announcement real quick.

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I'm so sorry, I'll be right back.

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We need volunteers in kids' ministry.

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Okay? Okay.

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It's very challenging.

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Because the kids are always there on Wednesdays. And we are running out of adults to care for.

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Enough for all the classrooms on Wednesday nights. So like we always do.

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How many here say, Pastor, I'd love to do this? I'd love to try it out. Because we need you to show up like right now.

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Who would like to serve on kids' ministry? Let me see a show of hands.

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So keep your hands up.

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Let's go, Sandra. Moms, dads, parents.

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Homens and meninas. Men, women, need your help on Wednesdays. Okay? Okay. Levant the money for the sending your formulary. Give you your sheets.

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And our volunteers will talk to you.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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Conseguimos? Alguns.

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We got it.

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Aqui também.

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Awesome.

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I don't know if you know this, but me and my wife we always served in kids' ministry. If we wouldn't be pastors here, we would still be pastors in kids' ministry. So God bless you. Okay, back to scripture.

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So Jesus is walking full of the spirit.

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He goes to Nazareth. What does he do? He bears witness.

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Testifying he is full of the Holy Spirit. But more than that.

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He takes the scroll of Isaiah. And out loud he reads Isaiah 61.

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He says, Today this prophecy is fulfilled.

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The Spirit of the Lord is upon me.

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Now pay attention. But look at the reaction. So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath.

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And rose up and thrust him out of the city. And they even planned this.

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What is it about what Jesus said? That makes them so mad.

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Naaman.

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And they are mad.

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Go to the Bible. Let's go.

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If you miss Sunday school, now's the time to stop complaining.

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Check this out.

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Now Naaman, commander of the army of the king of Syria.

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Because by him the Lord.

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Look up. Look at me.

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The prime Senhor is S minúsculo.

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Is lower case.

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The second Lord is S maiúsculo.

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Is this a theological conflict now? Pastor, what are we studying in theology? I can do it right now.

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Pretty attention. What is the first saying? God used a Syrian army leader from an army that was considered an enemy to Israel at the time.

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Because God will do as he pleases.

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The Bible says the world already belongs to evil.

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Let me quote the scripture so you don't call me crazy. It cannot be done. Josué and Caleb. Joshua and Caleb.

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The land is our promise.

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It belongs to us. It's milk and honey.

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It's going to be great.

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God is with us.

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So let's measure it.

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The Lord says one more year will be added to the journey. My brother, the murmured, slows down everyone. Because Joshua and Caleb 40 years they had to walk the extra years with everyone else.

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Until everyone passed away.

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But the Lord told me to pastor you.

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He was a very important man.

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He came to me one time.

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So what happens when you preach?

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I don't know, I just preach.

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The people don't like the word. They hide in Sunday school, but don't learn a thing.

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They like some magic.

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Or people's phone. Make a little mess, you know? They like the word. Because every year there's another one.

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If you all went through what I went through, oh my God. I wish I could see you.

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You'll understand why some people are where they're at. I don't remember I was angry that day. He was like 70 something. I wanted to punch him.

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I went home so mad. And I had to preach that night. And I was sad in my room.

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My wife was pregnant with Arthur. She was teaching first grade. And then she would do uh homeschooling at home with other kids. She was also going to school herself. And then at night she would teach adults how to read.

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You don't know my wife. You got no idea. What's it say? What are you doing?

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No, no, no.

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That stupid old man again. I wanted to kick him in the face.

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Nervoso.

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I was mad. Do you remember that you gotta preach a Jardine America? Well, get up and go.

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I'm not going. Go because you said you would go and your yes is your yes. I was, so I went.

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And I had this blue car.

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And I drove it and I was looking at the sky. And I was arguing with God.

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Am I just talking? What are you gonna do? You do nothing.

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Because I must do it. And then I gotta come home and hear this.

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Oh, you're just preaching.

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Isn't it yours?

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I was fucked.

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And I just went crazy on a room. I got to the church.

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It was full.

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It was packed. People were watching from the windows.

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I reclame the ultimate.

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And I got even more mad.

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People to watch what? Nothing's gonna happen.

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And I left the country. I entered the low walked in from the side. I got down on my knees. Fear of the Lord came back. And I began to shake.

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I said, Lord, I'm sorry.

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Lord, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Lord, I repent. I'm sorry. And I heard a voice behind me. I looked. Got down. I heard Ben.

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Listen. I will heal tonight. And I heard the Lord.

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When you get up, to your left, there's gonna be a couple of women for three months. For three months, pray for her. Out in the middle. A woman with a hymn. She has a problem in her kidneys. Tell her to go to the bathroom. She'll pass kidney stones right now. To your right, his arm is a bad thing. You're gonna ask him to say, Praise the Lord for the channel. And he's gonna lift up his arms. All the way up glorifying me. And I was on my ears. I'm going crazy. I've lost it. Lord helped me. I've gone insane. I believe in miracles, but I never done this for me. And I fringe my prayer. And I got up. When I left the dirigent that was quite the culture, the leader at the time of Deus in this pulpit! I just heard the voice of the Lord! And he says, Healing! And then he told me to speak. When I opened the eyes, there's the lady crying, there's the guy with a bad arm. I said, It can't be. I tried preaching, couldn't. Someone tells me this woman right here. The Lord's telling me that she's In the name of Jesus, she started screaming. That woman is standing in the back. You have a problem with your kidneys, right? She ran. The guy with a bad arm. Levanta a mão and the glory of Death. He lifted the good one. The Lord says, both hands. And he raised it up.

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The church exploded.

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I fell, eita!

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I was like, whoa.

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Finished preaching. Came down from the stairs. Who was there? Armando Coc. An intercession lady. Only few of you have met this kind of prayer warrior before. With the Bible right here on her chest. Going down the stairs. Armando Coq. She catches me.

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I heard you in aquele carro. In the car. When you said I couldn't do it. When you said I couldn't speak. Now you see. And I hear. I did not call you for spectacle. I've told you to preach my word. So preach my word. You have to elke fast. I will do the rest.

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An important man. Second highest in Syria. He was the only one before the king. A respected man by the king. A war hero. A valorous man. However. A leper. And this was so ironic for Naaman. Do you know what the name Naaman means?

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Pleasant to look at.

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Bello.

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Handsome. Beautiful.

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Lingo.

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Gorgeous. However.

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Leproso.

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Covered in leprosy.

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You know what's sad about leprosy?

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It doesn't hurt.

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The biggest aspiration of Joel peg was to grab a piece of mud and feridas and you try to scratch the wounds.

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To maybe at least feel something.

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God is talking to somebody impeccable. Your impeccable curriculum.

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There's people here today.

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Your curriculum is great. But what bothers you is a virtual is this period at the end of the curriculum. That says, However, dying and rotting from the inside out. A leper.

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But the Bible says that when she spoke, her speech supersedes three levels of authority.

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She speaks to the wife. Three.

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No, but that's not shit. That's not it.

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What this menina feel credit for her? What made her so credible to be heard?

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Let me breathe and reorganize my thoughts.

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I read the Bible.

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Did you know that before you talk about God, you gotta at least meet him?

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At the very least, meet the guy. When you speak at home, say when the Pai fell, God speaks.

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She had a dream.

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Or she prayed about me. I hear the Lord. He got kids that when he comes to adoration, when he adds and adora, God is here. Because before you convince with men or that girl lived in Naman and say, ouve. Listen to her. Give credit to her words. Listen. It was so strong that she said. She had no home. She had more family. She had no family. But she still had the heart. If you knew the prophet of Israel.

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And the God of our land. The God of our healing. You would never again have leprosy. This is our God. My God.

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She did not ask for his death.

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Or prayed that he would be sick. And the God of the healing of Israel.

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My Lord Naaman, you would never again be sick. You know what he did? He went to the king of Syria.

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Little girl.

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And he heard her.

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The king didn't even ask her. No, it's credible.

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The Bible says The Bible says that the most expensive journey of his life.

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I'm going to give you a letter.

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Let me update 300 miles of prata. Let me update 3 million dollars.

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And also many changes of clothes. That's around 700K.

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7 million and dollars. The most expensive thing he's ever done. Sabe por quê? You know why? Because Naman achava con dinero. I buy loyalty with money. I buy soldiers with money. I buy silence with money. Don't tell nobody. Let me pay you this. That's what he thought he could buy healing with money. Something they can buy the Lord. Everything's money, right? Everything's money, right? No, you can't buy this. That's free. And still a cartable. And so foram para Israel. They went to Israel. When they changed, look, I come in the name of the king of Syria. When he left the cartake, he tore his clothes. Are you crazy? Do you think I'm God to buy and sell death? To heal?

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This is your evil articulation.

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Because you come with this talk. Are you crazy?

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You think it's all about your power? And Elisha heard about the tearing of the king's clothes.

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They don't go to kings.

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But why did you tear your clothes?

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Why? Manda o Cyrio.

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Tell the Syrian to come here.

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Manda o Sirio viraki. Bring him here. vai o Sirio. So he goes.

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Look how he goes.

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Veio Naman.

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Here comes Nah.

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With all of his horses.

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With all of his carriages.

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With all of his glory.

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Remember Maximus parading for Caesar.

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It was like that, and he puts all of that in front of the mountain.

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Tentando impression. Trying to impress. Look at me!

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And the prophet.

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Go down there.

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Fala pra ele directly.

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Tell him to go to the Jordan River. And dip himself seven times.

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When you try to help people at church. And a diagnosis. And the treatment. Um the message.

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The messenger gets there.

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Because he was waiting a special ceremony for him. There wasn't. A new ritual for him. There wasn't.

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Back when I was in the army, we had a phrase.

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Are you posted? Post a luz. Are you posted? Run over there. And said, Do you see the Jordan? Vai. Head out. So I'll just go. The Bible says. The Bible says.

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Naaman was furious.

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Oh, is this how the pastor's gonna do this?

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I need all of your attention. I thought he would come to the phone. Bow down the phone. Invoke his colour of my leopard. His hands are my leprosy. He doesn't even come out of his tent. He's illuminated to say Jordan. And he tells me to go in the Jordan.

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Let me say something. I'm from Syria.

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I got the best rivers in the world.

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They fall from mountains.

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This is muddy right here.

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And the servant's like, this should be interesting. And Naaman's like, I thought This is the problem, Naman. That's your problem, bro. You think too much. This is the problem, Nama.

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That's the problem, Naaman.

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Oh, if I had another husband, another one. If I had another job.

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Yeah, right, amen. It's everyone's fault, right?

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We had the mask, we had everything. You know what's your problem, man? But pride always suffers one thing. The proud can never obey what's simple. Gente, guys, for a grand milagre.

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For a grand milagre. I need a great merge.

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I need a look at help.

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Please!

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Obedience is simply. It takes the tiniest obedience. Simples! Simple. No, but even to solve the problem, it's gotta look cool, right? So you? No, but it's me. Trata-se de me. Take your meal. You know who I am. Olha quem I so in that. Me mostraria pra igreja. He até tiraria uma photo of me chorando. And me sufrendo.

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Please validate me. And I'm the king. Jordan.

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Go to the Jordan.

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It's also seven.

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Seven times.

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For the leprosy. It's one healing. But for your pride. You must get humble. For your healing. It's a thing. It's like that. For your orgullif, humility. It's a process.

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So I'm in the same cycle.

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I'm in the same crisis, pastor. You're gonna die in the crisis limp. Until you get up clean from the jordan. Clean how much? The Bible says. He dip once. It was still there. Second. Twice. Nothing. Three. Three times. Nothing. Four times. Nothing. Cinco. Five times. Nothing. Six. Six times. Some of you need a thousand dips.

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I want to be a fun preacher.

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No, God bless you. Have power. The Lord told me to preach the Bible, I'm so sorry. Seven times. He gets up. He is like a newborn. No, no, no. The Bible doesn't say he was just healed. It was like he was born again. Or you are in my cycle of orgulli. How do I break the cycle of pride?

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You have to be born again. You're still living the old man.

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You know what the new skin looks like? Nova story. It's a new story. It's a new habit. It's like a boy, like a newborn. Anar. Anar. Pegou? You got that word? God reduced him.

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To the same littleness of the girl who brought that word for him.

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God reduced him to the humility of the girl who brought him the word of the Lord.

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And then Jesus says one day if you do not believe in me like a child, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what your miracle is? In the next step. Which one? Obedience.

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Obedience. Is it a big miracle?

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Because if you can't obey the simple simple simple to call someone. Say, I release you. I forgive you. Mom. I release you. Pai. Dad.

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It's all good.

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I forgive you. Your co-worker, your kids. There's people here who are gonna start dipping as soon as they get in the car. Because the wife is like this. Oh yeah, thank you, Lord. Yeah, talk to him, Jesus. I'll see a breakthrough, I'll see a menu. It's so simple. Talk to your kids. Going to service different, it's simple. Stop being religious. It's so simple. Confess your sins unto the Lord is so simple.

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What's your jordan?

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How long do I have to keep dipping? Until you emerge and you see a difference. Born again. No more pride.

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No more wrath and stress.

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Paralysando a casa.

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Paralyzing your life.

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Paralysando a family. Family. Travando the proposal.

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Every time the pride increases.

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One more time. One more year.

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As many times as it takes.

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Until you emerge anew! And you see a difference was made. For you. Fech as those eyes.

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Close your eyes.

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Com tes bras, consequences.

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The prophet of the most high.

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He sees you for who you are. So he always confronts you where he needs to confront you.

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You need to dip in the river until you start to see the new story.

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And they throw it up in the air and toss it if it's just much good as a pool. It's just as fun.

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Remember the Lord your God.

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I'm not even gonna make it alter, Paul.

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I don't gotta say nothing. Come as you are. Take it. Get up different. Get up new. Get up as a new person. In the name of Jesus. For a great miracle to happen. All it took was a little obedience.

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Hear the wisdom of the Lord. If he asked you for great things, you wouldn't do them. He asks you for little ones. Father in the name of Jesus. Thank you for the hungry hearts of your children.

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This is your word. Lord, I don't know how many dips we all need. I pray the last one comes today.

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So that nothing can ever rock them inside again.

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May all leprosy and sin be gone. And everything that's killing them on the inside. I declare a new wife. A new man of God. New children. With a new story. With a new life. With new children in the kingdom of God. In the name of Jesus. Starting now, Lord. In name Jesus.

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In the name of Jesus.

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Do you know why the Israelites they hated what Jesus said? Because he provoked them. I healed in a way.

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Because those were inside did not want to participate.

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But God brought you to currently to bring healing. So please don't make the same mistake as a nation. Be a stranger.

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God knows how to deliver you.

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God knows how to take care of you. Amen. Hold on a minute, we got something.