(A Brox Tale) Radio Special Chazz Palminteri Interview 2026

I spoke to Chazz Palminteri about his one man award winning Bronx Tale show which is coming to London on the 6th of June

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

I'm lucky and one gotta be I kissed her and she kissed me like the fella once said Ain't like a kick in the head Her room was completely black I hug the she had black Like the sailor said welcome to the show Chance Parmentary how's it going?

SPEAKER_00 2:26

It's going great I'm excited about uh coming to London. First time I'll be doing the show live anywhere outside the United States.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Wonderful. I mean, do you like our country? Have you been to England before?

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Oh yeah, many times. I love it there. I've been going there since I've been making movies back in uh I went there the first time uh probably uh '93 when I started doing when I did Bronx Tale and and uh De Niro and I went there and uh no uh I love it there. I love I love London. Very civilized place.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Yeah, and you did also do uh a gangster film with Tom Hardy, didn't you, about the Cray Twins legend? Yes, that was great, yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

I enjoyed that very much, yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

And what were your memories of being involved in that project?

SPEAKER_00 3:14

With the uh with Tom Hardy? Yeah. Oh, I was great working with him. He's a great actor. Uh what I couldn't get over was uh he played the twins, you know, and uh and because I was uh uh working opposite him, we after we did one part, I had, you know, I sat in my trailer and I waited until he came out uh dressed as the other twin, you know, and um it was really remarkable how he transformed himself. It was uh it was pretty remarkable. I I never forgot that. He's a great actor.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Yeah, and of course, A Bronx Tale is a fantastic film, and you not only starred in it, but you wrote it as well. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

That's correct. I wrote it, it's actually about my life. My real name is Calogero, so I'm the little boy in the movie. You know, I don't know why I waited so long to do it. Um it's just I you know, making movies, and I've been on a bunch of TV series here in America, and then I said, you know, I'm getting that age now where I want to do it. I want other I want other places uh in the world to see this because it's really special. It's just I've been doing it now for 34 years, and it's um, you know, I I I won all these awards and it was voted Best Show of the Year in Las Vegas. And I just saw I just thought, you know what, because so many people from London came to see it in America, and they always tell me, you gotta bring it to London. You know, they would love it, bring it. And then finally I said, you know what? I'm gonna do it. And maybe one day the musical will even come there. I it's just a great, it's a great show. Um it's unique, you know, Chris, it's very unique. It it's it never it's never been done before, and it hasn't been done since. Um, it's it's a person who wrote a who had this story in his head, and instead of making people read it, he showed it to them. He did the whole movie on stage himself. And you'll see, I'm sure, because I know you I'm sure you saw the movie, when you see it, it's exactly the movie. But one person doing it.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

So you're doing all the characters from the show, uh, from the film.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Yes. Wow. Yes, and uh when I first did it, it just you know, it just took Hollywood and and uh New York by storm. I mean, it was just the authors were coming in and uh it was just millions of dollars they were uh were throwing my way, but they didn't want me. They wanted to put a star in the role of Sonny. Well, all the big stars wanted to do it at the time, you know, Pacino and uh Nicholson and Redford and Bert Reynolds, I remember. Uh uh Robert Redford wanted I mean, everybody wanted to play Sonny, but I and people and the studio wanted like uh somebody else to write it, and I was like, Are you crazy? No. So I turned down the $250,000 that was the first thing they offered me, $250,000. And I turned that down, and uh about a week later it went up to $500, and I turned that down. I had about two, I had $200 left in the bank, that's true. And then I went up to $1 million and I turned that down. Then it was up to a million and a half, and I I wouldn't give in. And then one night I did the show, just like I'm gonna do it in London, and I got off, and they said Robert De Niro is in your dressing room and he wants to talk to you. And I walked in and Bob De Niro was sitting there and um he was very nice and very kind. He told me how much he loved the show and how much he loved the the story. And he was so, you know, he said, Look, if you end up selling it, they're gonna come to me anyway. So he says, So why not let me make it with you? And he goes, I'll make it right, and I'll make sure it's done correctly. And he said, You should play Sonny, you'll be great at Sonny, and you should write it because it's your life. I'll play your father and I'll direct it. And I shook his hand, and that's how it happened.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Brilliant. Yeah, I was gonna ask how easy or how difficult it was to get the film made, because you do hear that a lot of the time, that it can be quite difficult.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Well no, this was this was the only difficult thing was for me to be in it. Yeah, but they wanted to make it from day one. I mean, it was it was a freak of nature, I have to be honest with you. It was an anomaly. Let's say it happened once with Sylvester Stallone, and then it happened again with me. It only happened like twice in show business. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Yeah, because with uh Sly and Rocky, um that was kind of a similar thing, really, wasn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

I mean, the only difference is that I I performed it on stage alone. Yeah, you know, yeah. But other than that, it was very similar, yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

And um one of the scenes I love is um in the bar with the biker gang, that's a really good thing.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Oh, people just you know, Chris, everywhere I go, people yell, hey Chaz, now you can't leave. You know, when I get on an airplane, when the door closes, the pilot goes, ladies and gentlemen, now you can't leave. And I'm like, Oh boy. You know, and it's uh but you know what, it's a very quotable movie. Uh it's it's probably as quoted as much as some of the like Godfather and stuff. It's all I hear is now you can't leave, is it better to be loved or fear, throw them in the bathroom? Oh my god. It's um uh but I'm very humble and proud of it. I am.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Yeah, yeah, and you were speaking about Robert De Niro. Uh, another scene I really love is where you're with the main character and his father, and that whole scenario of when um De Niro's saying about that it's his son, uh that's a great scene, isn't it? Between a great extra exchange.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yes. Well, I mean, you you can see that uh De Niro had a walk a line there because which my father did, uh, because uh you have to say, look, this is my son, but you can't overstep your bounds because no matter how much Sonny liked me, you can't disrespect him in front of people. That's uh you can't do that to a wise guy. You can't do that. So my father was smart enough to walk a line there at the time.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Yeah, and and it's um it's it's hard for him, isn't it? I mean, he says what he wants to say and he gets it across, but as you say, you can't go too far in his shoes.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Right. I mean he he says, I know what you can do, but I just want you to know this is my son. He's trying to he's trying to reason with me like like come on now, it's my son. You know, and and then uh you know, it hits the wall, it hits boom, blows up.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah, and um I like Sonny's advice for the the car door test. I thought that was uh really oh I hear that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

People go, oh, my wife passed the test, and oh my god, for 30 something years I've been hearing that, you know. But um, yeah, I mean, see, the thing that makes it different, Chris, is that it's not like Sonny was bad and the father was good. They were both flawed, they were both gray and gray. Like Sonny told the boy to do exactly what the father told him. But my father, he didn't want me in that environment because he said, even though Sonny's not wanting you to be a wise guy, just being around them, you will be influenced and you will come into trouble. And he was right. He was right.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

And what was it like growing up in your neighborhood um back in the day?

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Well, if you if you know it was it was Bronx Tale. That's exactly the way it was. You know, it was it was great. I had a great childhood. Um was there violent? Yes. Was there drugs? Yes. But we would walk come outside and all the guys and all the buildings. There was no play dates back then where your parents had to drive you to somebody's house. This was you walked outside and there were like 40, 50 guys just hanging out, and we would have a great time, you know. It was uh you know, I got pretty I got pretty street street smart from that.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Yeah, and there's some great music in the Bronx Tale as well, isn't there?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yes. Well, it was uh actually De Niro had a brilliant idea. He said because of the there were so many different elements, there was the wise guys, there was the young wise guys, then there was the um uh the black neighborhood, then there was the record store. So he wanted each group to have be identified by their own music. So if you see it, you'll notice the big songs of that at that time were with all the white, the black, the older, the younger, and it really worked out great.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Yeah, I mean it's a it's a very iconic film, isn't it? In many ways. And in some ways it's it's different than other gangster films as well, isn't it? In some ways.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Absolutely, yes. It's not a you know, people say gangster movie, but it's really not, it's a family story. It it really is. He's at the end of it, you know, like the studio originally, they didn't want Sonny to die. And I was like, Sonny has to die. You know, that's it's a cathassis. The boy Sonny dies, the boy realizes and lives on. You know, Shakespearean, Romeo and Julia. They kill each other, but the families come together. You know, it's uh a death brings life, and um they couldn't understand that. But uh obviously uh Bob De Nero was uh that wasn't happening with Bob De Nero, so yeah, that is interesting you say that.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

So originally they they wanted Sonny to live, they didn't want him to die.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

Wow, yeah, they didn't want him to die. But they're thinking of sequels. I'm not thinking of sequels, I'm thinking of a great story, you know. I don't care about sequels, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

And you usually with sequels, they're not as good as the first one anyway, normally.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Except the Godfather, but other than that, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

Godfather part that's about it, except that. But you know, um I'm just real excited for a whole different audience to see it. I I'm just I'm so excited. I love going to the Leicester Square, it's a wonderful place to do it. You know, um I mean it was great. I sold out in like a day or two.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

So yeah, it was hard to get tickets.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Yeah. You know, they wanted me to do more shows, but I th I just thought I'd do one only because I have to go to Portugal and I'm doing uh the next show in Portugal at the you know Tribeca Film Festival, and then I uh you know, so I figured I want to enjoy London a little bit, I'll do one show and and then I'll be back and I maybe I'll do like a mini tour, you know, well, you know, London, Attenborough, you know, all over. That might be nice. That'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

When are you flying out?

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Uh tomorrow. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

So so you're gonna get to see the city a little bit?

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Yeah, yeah, I'll be there uh to I think June 9th? 8th? June 8th. So I'll be there, you know, four or five days. It'll be nice.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Yeah, yeah, well.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

I did also see you in a few episodes of Blue Bloods. What was that like?

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Great, I enjoy Bluebirds is great, Tom Selleck is great. I'm on a series called um Godfather of Harlem with Forrest Whitaker. I've been doing that now for four years. Um so uh I I love that show, and and uh Bluebirds is a great, great show. I'm sorry that they took it off the air, but it was on for 14 years, so I guess it had its run, you know.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Yeah, I do years ago, I remember you in the comedy Analyze This. What was that experience like?

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Oh, that was great because you know, I I've I've done I think four movies with De Niro, and it's always great to work with him, you know. We became really good friends after Bronx Tale, and uh we have so much fun playing doing analyze this because you know, uh Halo Ramis, uh the late director, was just a brilliant director, and he really allowed us to improvise. And Billy Crystal and I. We had a lot of fun with that. A lot of fun.

SPEAKER_05 16:40

Something to play with. Go and find yourself maybe my time is too expensive and I'm not a little bit few I'll say the yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes me feel the best.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

What what is your drink of choice? My drink? Yeah, your alcoholic drink of choice. I like wine. You like wine?

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Red wine or red red or white. I like red or white. I like a mantrachet, white wine, I like a good cabinet. I I like wine. Yeah, I never really drank. I was never really a big drinker, ever. You know, um I don't know, my family wasn't. Um, I mean, would I have a drink? Yeah. Like uh, if I really had to just say, hey, give me a drink, I'm you know, an old-fashioned might be good. Uh I'm dying to try what I really want to try is I don't know if I have time. Because I remember I was talking to uh oh god, they they said the the Guinness in Europe is much better than here. And then the Guinness in Ireland is much better than here. Then they said the Guinness at the Guinness plant is the best. So I was saying, gee, I wish I could have gone to Ireland and had some of that, you know. But I I'm looking to I want to have I'm looking for some. I love fish and chips, and I'm looking to have some of that, you know. Um I just like I I like London a lot. I really do. I'm very, very um I've always liked it. My daughter, uh she studies, she's an actress, and she's uh she graduated University of Michigan, but she studied at Rada for four summers in a row, four years. So uh she really knows London and she's coming with us. So she's all excited to go back there, you know. So uh I it's it should be really nice.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Wow. And um I imagine are you quite a big foodie? What kind of food do you like?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Uh you know, I don't eat as much as I used to, only because, you know, uh the less you eat, the longer you live. That's that's the rule, you know. So I try not to eat too much, but uh I I love uh you know chicken and fish. Chicken and fish is my favorite, you know. But um my son, he's uh actually he's he's a actually a very good chef, uh, but he's an actor too. But he's he goes, Dad, you gotta have some uh what did he say? Bangers and beans or something? Uh bangers and mash. Mash, that's it. Come on, Dad. You gotta get into it over there. I said, Well, maybe I'll try other over there and see.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Yeah. Or you could have some pie and mash, that's quite nice. Um, that's with it's called liquor, but it's not alcoholic. It's like a it's like a green parsley sauce. Um, it's very it's very London, but it's street food kind of thing. Um, very different. You'll either love it or you'll hate it. It's one of them things. And what is it called? Um it's called pie and mash, but um there's a fame there's a famous restaurant in London called Mansies, and I'd say go there. But it's very it's sort of like a rustic place, it's not like um a nice restaurant or anything. It's it's it's nice enough, but but um nice, nice food, yeah. Traditional East End. Are you are you coming to see the show? I'm not, I couldn't get a ticket. I would have loved to have come, but sadly I didn't get a ticket.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Yeah, it's sold out. I can't even help you. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Well, hopefully you come over again.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Oh, yeah, no, no, I will. I will. This is this is like a show and then a little vacation, then a show, and but I'm definitely gonna come. I want to speak to my agents about coming back and do like a little bit of a stay here, like for two or three weeks of tour or something, you know?

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Yeah. And and what's that like acting out all the different parts? It must be well, you've done it for a long time, so you're obviously very good at it, but I mean it must be quite interesting.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

You know, it was very, very hard learning it. It took me to perfect it, to really perfect it before I started doing uh it was I would say ten months of of good rehearsals every day. Because don't forget, you're tr sometimes four or five people are talking at the same time. You know, and I don't use uh costumes or I do it more with accents and and hand gestures and body language and uh but I you know it's just practice, man. I worked really hard on it, and I think that's why it's so and you know what's amazing, Chris? People don't see it once, they see it ten, twenty, thirty times. I mean, all it just it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Uh I'm telling you. It's the only thing I would ever talk like that about. It doesn't matter. I can come back to London and do five nights in a row, it'll be like that. Five nights. It's crazy. It's an aberration, it's like a shooting star. I don't know what I wrote. I wrote something from the heart, and it just connects with people. People laugh, they cry. I'm so humbled by it. I really am. And I love doing it. I've done it 1,070 times. Wow. So you would think I'd be tired of it, you know. You know, I I'm just so excited to do it. I get thrilled and my energy and it's like it's like something comes from up above and just goes through me, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

And what was it like when you when you wrote it for the first time? And did you base it on real life experiences?

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yeah, I based it both mainly on my life. It really all stems from the killing. Uh I was sitting on my uh stoop in the Bronx, and uh these two cars, like one was pulling in this way, the other was pulling in that way, and they were kind of like fighting over the parking space, I thought. And then one guy got out with a baseball bat and smashed the window of the guy trying to sneak in and then the guy got out of the car and he went to hit him again. All of a sudden, this guy's sonny, who was on the corner, I didn't know this at the time, that was his friend. And he came running over and killed the guy with a baseball bat. Shot him right in the face. I mean, literally, you know, five feet from me. And I kind of just stared at him, you know? And he stared at me, and then the next minute I knew my my father was dragging me up the steps. And then the cops came because they said the boy was there, the boy was there. People and they asked me to identify him, and I I I refused. I said I don't know who did it. Even at that age I knew better. And um and that was it. He liked me from that day on.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

The era you grew up in, uh how different is it from today?

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Well, at that when I grew up there, the whole neighborhood was all Italian.

SPEAKER_09 26:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Now it's more gentrified, there's uh Hispanic, there's black, there's Albanian. Uh, but there's that one strip where all the shopping is on Arthur Avenue, that's still all Italian. But other than that, it's much more gentri gentrified.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Yes. It's like um Lis Whistle, that's very small now, isn't it, sadly?

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Yes, that's correct. Exactly like that. That's correct.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah, yes. I went to New York, I had a great time. I d I went to lots of um mafia-themed places. Um, so I went to Sparks restaurant, you know, where um Paul Castellano was whacked outside. Had a great steak there, really nice.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Yeah, I have I own two restaurants there, and I have my restaurants are great too. You know, uh China's Palmer Terry is it's a great steak too. Great, great steak. Um yeah, you know, uh and I just looked I like to mention my podcast. When you put it out there, if anybody wants to check out my podcast, uh it's the China's Palmetari show. And um it's great. You know, I enjoy talking about my time in the Bronx and a Bronx Hill, and uh and I've been announcing that I'll be in London and Portugal and then I go to the south of France. But that's a vacation. Um so I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

How did you get involved in that? Because I watch your podcast, I think it's great.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Thanks. How did I get I you know what happened? I was in uh it was COVID. I was on a TV series, I was getting ready to do a movie, uh then I was gonna do a show, everything got canceled. The show got cancelled, TV series. I never experienced anything like that. I mean, I just went from all of this work to nothing. No different than anybody else. And I said, What am I gonna do? And I said, Well, uh do a podcast. I can do it from my house and I can still talk to people, and that's how it started, and then it just exploded from there and took off.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

And it it's quite addictive doing podcasts as well, isn't it? I do a couple as well. There's something about doing them, and it's it's quite enjoyable, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Very enjoyable, and it's great business model. You know, I sell my merchandise. I I people when I'm in a uh I tell them where I'm gonna be, I I list all the shows that are coming up in all the different areas of uh New York or the or the you know Florida, California. And you know, it it sells tickets, man. I mean you they just sell, you know, you get the work. You don't have you y years ago you used to have to go on the tonight show, you know. Uh you had to buy spend a lot of money on on ads. You don't need that no more, Chris. It's all it's over. The paradigm is the paradigm is changed. We control it now. Not the studios. And it's great.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

And uh what are some of your favorite gangster films yourself? Similar kind of uh to Bronxdale, although it's different, as we said.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Well, I mean, obviously, Goodfellows is one of my favorite movies. I thought that's a brilliant movie. Uh that is that is and I like um that one by the Cohen Brothers. I thought it was great. I forgot the name of it. It was such a good movie. It was great. It was John Totoro was in it. It was such a good movie. I I love unique gangster movies. Uh Casino was great, I enjoyed that. I I really liked uh to me Pacino's greatest performance. I mean, don't get me his greatest performance as a gangster was uh Johnny Brasco. I thought he was great in that because he played this kind of down and out guy who really didn't have his shit together. And uh I thought he was just brilliant in that. That was one of my favorite films of his. You know, um There's a lot of great movies. The original Scarface with Paul Muni. That was really good. White Heat, White Heat with James Carney, you know. Some great films, man. Oh, Angels with Dirty Faces. I don't know if you remember that one. With the Humphrey Boga. Wow, great, just great. Well, what's the difference? Well, it's it's it's easier to get seen, but it's harder to be seen. I I think when I was doing it, everything was you had to go there in person, nothing was online, you had to be in LA, you had to be in New York, you had to drive around to all the studios. Now you can live anywhere and just you send in tapes and you know uh because it's just so easy to make a film, you know. But if you make something really great, you know, quality rises to the top in the end, I think.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Yeah, I suppose there's there's more quantity but less quality sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Yes, there's a lot more quality. Back then it was it was you know high-end quality, man. The 60s and 70s and 80s. Come on, those films were just you know Midnight Cowboy and Coming Home and the studios, they kind of but they're coming back now, like because they realize you know, they started doing all these marveled movies, the comics, and and I get it, you know. You spend three, four hundred million, it makes a billion, okay. But what about independent movies and stories? What about that, you know? And it's starting to come back to that now, and I hope it comes back strong. I do.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

It seems to me like a lot of um the best dramas now are on the TV instead of uh the cinema, which is quite interesting.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Yeah, the best the best work now is on television. You know, five, six episodes. More people see it? What are you gonna do? Go into a theater, run for four weeks, then you get pushed out by Iron Man 4? You know, you might as well more people will see it on Netflix than'll see it in the movies. So more people are going that way now.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Uh what's your favorite scene um from a Bronx tale yourself?

SPEAKER_00 35:39

The scene between Bob De Nero and the boy when he says the working man's a sucker. That's my favorite scene. When he the boy's crying and he's mad because he gave the money back. And I remember when we shot that scene, because I was behind the camera when when Bob did that, and uh I was just blown away. And then uh he finished. And I went over to him and I said, uh best scene in the movie, man. You know, he just looked at me, and he's very modest, and he goes, Oh, stop, you know. I go, I'm telling you. Best scene in the movie. And it was.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah, there was a lot of emotion from De Niro in that scene, wasn't there?

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Yeah, the k and the kid was great, and that's the essence of the whole movie. The working man is the tough guy, not the wise guy. He says it to him, doesn't take much strength to pull the trigger, but try to get up in the morning day after day and feed three kids.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

I mean what do you think happened to the main character at the end? Because he does have a scene with Joe Pesci, doesn't he? I believe. Yes. Yes. Well Do you think he got mixed up in the life or do you think he went on the straight and narrow?

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Well, do you want the r do you want what really happened? Or would well what real well in the movie you can see he goes he goes to school and he strains his life out. But the kid who did it, he he got mixed up and he ended up going to jail. Uh but he's out now and uh he's trying to rebuild his life, which I'm happy about that.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Oh yeah, of course. And is that is that true that you auditioned for the Sopranos as well at one stage? Oh, I didn't audition.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

They offered me the role of Tony Soprano. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

And you turned it down at the time.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

And I turned it down, but I didn't turn it down because I didn't like it. I turned it down, it was just not a good time in my life. I was just doing these films, and it just wasn't a good time. But I wasn't the first to be offered it. Uh I they said Ray Leoto was, uh and uh I might have been second choice after Ray. So but Ray turned it down, then I did. But you know what? The right guy did it. The right guy did it. He was brilliant. And he was a wonderful man and a great, great actor. And the right guy did it, so it worked out great.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Yeah. I suppose that must happen a lot in acting. Is there any roles that you wanted that you didn't get?

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Or well, one that I turned down that's that still bothers me, and that's only because I love the movie so much, was Donnie Brasco. I was I was offered the role of Sonny Black, and I was directing something, and I I sh I should have just put it off and did that and and pushed the movie back. But for some reason I didn't do it, and uh uh I just love the movie so much that I w I could have been in it, and uh but you know, Michael Matson, God rest his soul, he did a great job. Uh but I I just love the movie.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Yeah, yeah, it's another great gangster film. And is the and this is for radio. Um, can you give me one of your favorite songs from one of your favorite artists who were playing on the show? Oh.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

Hard question, but uh Yeah, well, there's so many great songs. Oh my god. Well, uh one of my favorite artists is Sting, uh, and I love uh Message in a Bottle. That's one of my favorite songs. And uh U2. You two I love uh with uh Beautiful. That's another one of my favorite songs. But Sting is Sting is uh one of my favorite Billy Joel, God bless him. Yeah, so many to choose from, isn't there? Yeah, scenes from an Italian restaurant. So any one of those songs I love, they're all great songs.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Great. Well, thanks a lot for joining us, Chaz. It's been great to speak to you, and we'll look forward to seeing you in London on the sixth.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

Yes, hope to see you there. God bless. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 44:40

You and I face to face a bottle of red, a bottle of whites. It all depends upon your appetite. I'll meet you anytime you want in our Italian restaurant. Got a good job, I got a good office.

SPEAKER_06 45:54

I got a new wife, got a new life, and the family is fine. Oh, lost touch long ago. You lost weight, I did not know. You remember I looked so nice after so much time. Do you remember those days hanging out at the village green? Engineer boots, leather jackets, type blue jeans. Oh, you drop a dime in a box, play a song about the new old lease. Cold beer, highlights, my sweet romantic teammates.

SPEAKER_07 47:17

Renderinetti with a popular staddy's and the king and the queen and the farm. Riding around with the car, top down on the radio on. Always more of a hit at the park where it died. We never knew we could want more than that out of life. Sure, the vendor would always know how to survive. Oh, oh, oh.

unknown 47:45

Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_07 47:49

Brenda Renetti was still going steady in the summer of 75. When they decided the marriage would be at the end of July. Everyone said they were crazy. Brenda, you know that you're much too lazy. And Eddie could never afford to live that kind of life. Oh, but there we were waving, rendering Eddie goodbye. Oh, oh, oh. Well, they got an apartment with Deep Hong Compass and a couple of paintings from seas. A big water bet that they bought with the breath, they can save for a couple of years. They started the fight when the money got tight, but they just didn't count on the tears. They got a divorce as a matter of course, and they fought at the foes just a friend. Then the king and the queen went back to the green, but you could never go back there again. But the remediate had it already by the summer of 75. From the height of the low till the end and the show for the rest of their lives. Couldn't go back to the Greases. Best they could do is pick up their pieces. We always knew they would both find a way to get by. Oh that's all I heard about Brenda Renee. Can't tell you more, cause I told you already. And here we are with the Brenda René to Goodbye. Oh, oh, oh.

unknown 49:51

Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 50:36

Bottle white. Meet you anytime you want in our Italian restaurant.