CERN, Colliders & the Multiverse: Are We Opening Doors to Other Dimensions?

In this mind-bending episode of Vine & Veil, we venture into the world of particle colliders, quantum physics, and the mysteries that lie beyond our understanding. From CERN's Large Hadron Collider to theories surrounding future mega-colliders, we explore the science behind these incredible machines—and the speculation that they could influence far more than particle physics.

Could smashing particles together reveal hidden dimensions? Is the multiverse simply science fiction, or could parallel timelines actually exist? 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Welcome everybody to The Vine and the Veil, the podcast where we dive between worlds to reveal the mysteries of the light and the dark, the wisdom of the spiritual, the wonder of the mystical, and the power of the supernatural. I'm your host, Carlos, and this is my co-host, Maria. And in today's episode, we're going to delve into a lot of things. Maria went into this big old rabbit hole because of all the things that are going on with CERN and them turning off the Hadron Collider at CERN. So we're going to talk about alternate universes, parallel dimensions, Mandela effects. Mandela effects, you name it. And this should be a really, really cool podcast because I think there's a lot to it. There's a lot of it. Let's get started. Let's talk about the the origins? The origins.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Like where did alternate dimensions? Where does where does that idea come from? Ancient Greece. Oh, yeah. Let's go there. I'm gonna butcher his name, even though I just checked the pronunciation. Democratus. Totally butchered.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Democritus.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Democritus. See? He knew what it was. So he believed in countless worlds throughout the cosmos.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

And then Was he a mathematician?

SPEAKER_00 1:11

He was a philosopher, mathematician, all the things. And then in the 1500s, we jump into Giordano Brun Bruno, who believed the in um the universe was infinite. So he believed in other worlds and then just started challenging beliefs at the time, which was you know not something that was commonly done.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

So we were we were watching this show, I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen it. It's called Ancient Aliens, and they had a bunch of different physicists on. And they were talking about you know quantum physics, quantum mechanics, the idea of many, many universes existing at the same time, and all of the different theories behind that, which I thought were pretty cool. There's something fascinating about the idea that every time you make a decision, you spot a bunch of other realities.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Like a choose your own adventure book.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Yeah, it's kind of like a choose your own adventure book, but like say, for example, you make a choice to take a left instead of a right. Well, you take that left and you go, but right also happens in some other parallel.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

There's a version of you that made a right and is going down this whole path, which I think is it's kind of mind-blowing when you think about it. And the idea that all of the things that are currently happening in a timeline are kind of already played out. So this version of you that's in this timeline, you're you're kind of going through the steps in the journey. And if you are making a decision to switch or to try something different, you're basically moving your consciousness over to a different timeline and aligning with the frequency of that timeline to manifest what it is that you're what you what it is that you're trying to do. But now you're on a different, whole different timeline that's being played out in a different way.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

It's kind of like Marvel and the them diving into the multiverse and whether it's Loki or WandaVision, where she creates her own reality and then finds the alternate dimension realities where you know she finds her ultimate dream in one of them. It's kind of like that. Like we live different lives and have been living different lives in different universes.

SPEAKER_03 3:21

Right. And I know that the government's been researching for a while.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

I mean, most of any kind of collider has been funded greatly by governments. So it's very interesting. There, there are way okay, so I know everyone knows about CERN, right? It's common knowledge, everyone attributes a lot to them. I don't know how many of you know that the Traviton was actually one of the first ion or the colliders that was in it was actually located in outside of Chicago, which is why one of the reasons why I'm wearing the hat. It was located outside of Chicago, and they they were one of the ones that started physics, diving into articles and discovery of like what they can see.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

So let's let's let's talk about CERN. Let's get into that. Right now, it seems like CERN is the at the top of everything that's happening in social media, and has been blamed for alternate dimensions, Mandela effects. There are things well that that was when CERN was currently operating, but now that it's shut down, there's a whole idea, and people are blaming it on hey, because it shut down, we're now switched, we've now switched off into this alternate timeline that we're on. I've heard tick I've seen TikToks of people talking about how birds aren't chirping anymore.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Then this is gone. Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

There's there's just a bunch of a bunch of things that they're attributing to the CERN shutting itself down for I think four years as they revamp to do other things.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Now the idea that, and this is fascinating, where a bunch of physicists get together, mathematicians, I think there's a bunch of folks that get together, and they're going, okay, like what happens if we take two subatomic particles and shoot them at near the speed of light and smash them together? And and you know, the collision that happens is random because you know, I mean, can you imagine trying to take subatomic particles and putting them on a course to hit each other? But that collision not only just sets off a bunch of energy, but I think what they were hoping was that they would discover something new. Yes, whether it's new particles or whatever, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

So CERN wasn't the first person, like the first group to dive into this. So in in Illinois back in the 1960s, the Tevitron was started. So they started research. It was another hadron collider? Yeah, it's it wasn't a hadron collider, it was like the looking for particles essentially.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

So they did research, uh, subatomic particles, but not to the finite ones that CERN so CERN took it to the next level. They they were like the catalyst and did a lot of the groundwork for CERN. So they were able to find the pork particle. There was some theories that they created a multi like minute little wormholes and black holes through their research, because you know, every time everything's based off of a theory or hypothesis, and they're working through like if I do this, what will it entail? Like, what is my end result? And in those studies, there were like multiple results that happen, and there are theories that that actually was the beginning of like the Mandela effect. So in 2011, the Tevitron shut down.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

And Mandela Effect was first originated by somebody named Fiona Boom, who is a paranormal researcher, and she that idea was born in 2009, and it's obviously based off of Nelson Mandela. She thought that he had died in the 1980s when he didn't die until 2013. So in her reality, in her reality, that was that. So the Tevitron we're looking at, I want to say that it was from 1983 to 2011. CERN actually started in 2008. They turned on September 10th, 2008.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

Interesting. So there were two.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

There were two running at the same exact time.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

So what a lot of people also don't know is that there's colliders throughout the United States. New York, Northern California alone, Stanford, but they're not as big, right? They're not they're not as big and they're not the same thing. So like Stanford has a linear collider. I can't remember what exactly Bella, which is UC Berkeley's collider, is, but they're all looking for different types of particles to see like what can happen with their research.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Right, but the principle's still the same, right? Take particles and smash them together.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

And hopefully something happens. Because I remember in the Tevitron, they were looking to try to find a particle that was that basically caused gravity.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 8:18

The Gravitron is what they were looking for.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

And they, you know, they ended up finding some other things. And they were, if I remember right, they were saying that they were also looking for in the blast of energy what was missing.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Okay, where did energy go? And if energy went somewhere, well, maybe it went into off into a different dimension.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

I think they were also trying to validate like everything was based off of a theory, and that these, whatever we were deciding what atoms or particles, that they were actually something that exists, that they can prove existence of.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Which the Tevitron was able to do, and then CERN took it to a whole other level.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

But I think the the challenge with them is that you can't always get them to be colliding consistently.

unknown 8:59

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:59

So collisions happen every second.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

Collisions happen a lot of oopses, like oops, we didn't mean to do that. So did they create an alternate dimension here and there? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

Right. And I know that government's pretty interested in you know doing a lot of that.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Can we find a parallel dimension? I know that there's a again, this is slightly off the topic of everything, but you have a lot of people talking about the gate program.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Oh, yes, the gate program.

SPEAKER_03 9:27

And were you were you in the gate program? And there's this whole conspiracy behind the gate program actually being something that the government was using to try to find people who had the gifted folks. The gifted folks that had abilities that were outside of the scope of what regular people.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

I mean, think about it. It was like right after the all the testing that they did with CIA and military, the LSD test LSD testing, the the astral projection, the remote viewing, like that that was around or the end of that was a beginning of when the gate program was.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

So I wonder, I wonder if they, you know, they they were doing a lot of that research, and then they combined that research that they were doing with the research that was being done in in all of these uh colliders and were trying to figure out okay, can we affect the outcomes of things? Or is manifestation the idea of being able to manifest something and bringing it into a reality real? Yeah. Or is this again, is this a simulation? I think there are so many different theories that are happening. It's it's kind of cool that a bunch of scientists got funding to be able to actually try to do this.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

I mean, there's I'm sure there's a reason why, other than like curiosity, like the possibilities of what can come out of it. I think it why not?

SPEAKER_03 10:51

Well, yeah, I mean, parallel dimensions, alternate realities, infinite energy.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Yeah, I mean, a bunch of different things like that could possibly one thing that I find fascinating about CERN, and this kind of either substantiates, it depends on where you are, because you know, scientists have like theories of so many things, but it kind of leads a little bit of credibility to all the theories of like what is the intention? They CERN has the Shiva statue outside of their facility.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

So it's one of those where like, are they trying to destroy something or are they trying to create? She's very much like Kakali, where it's not just the death, it's the rebirth.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

So well, I mean, it also again, it also ties into the idea that we were talking about before, which is like everything is made of energy.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

So if you if you can harness energy or if you can trigger something at a subatomic level that can push that kind of energy or ability, who knows what you can bring into.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

I mean, they're they're substantiating any kind of theory that's based around energy, which is which which are deities, angels, things like that.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

So why not? I mean, that's not out of the realm of possibility if you start looking at everything as energy.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Because we're made up of subatomic particles, we're made we're all made up of that.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Oh, for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

And they all vibrate at a certain frequency, which is also kind of fascinating when you think about that, and it substantiates the idea that energy frequency is what helps us.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

So just for comparison, size. So the FEMI lab, which is where the trev Trevaton came from, that was four miles long, right? Okay, so the four miles. Four miles. Yeah. CERN's current collider that just shut down, 17 miles long. So their shutdown phase, which they're gonna reopen in 2030, is not to resize their collider, but put in a new ring that's I want to say 1.2 kilometers. So they're redoing that to uh make it more susceptible of like seeing luminosity and so are they gonna are they making it bigger? Is the ring bigger? The ring is bigger than what's currently inside of their current collider. So they're not they're just like upgrading their current collider, they're not rebuilding that one. They're they are working on another collider that is set to be deployed in 2040. That one is called the future collider, and that one is going to be a total of they're adding 10 to 13 kilometers to that size. So just that I mean it's mind-blowing like how big that one is.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

It's like, look, we're near the speed of light. Let's go for the speed of light.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

No, I mean, they're that's they're they're harnessing the speed of light in their side in their science. So it's pretty fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

So I wonder why they're they're they're shutting down. I bet you, and this is just me speculating, I bet you they're they're upgrading all of their systems, because their systems have to be pretty old.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

I I agree with you.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

I'm gonna into this because uh think about this. If you are if you're running tests and every X amount of times that you run this test, you get a collision.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

How are you going to become more efficient?

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Correct. Right?

SPEAKER_03 14:22

You have AI run the modeling and actually execute the program.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Correct. And they could probably give you possibilities. It's like going back to Marvel and Doctor Strange when Tony Stark dies. He goes through all the different dimensions and all the different possibilities until he finds one that is the outcome that will bring people back, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:44

He can see all the different things.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

So he goes through all of it. So I think there's something to that where you can harness AI to kind of maybe do the work without actually like turning on the collider to do it. What is the outcome?

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Okay, but here's a here's a conspiracy theory. What if they are, you know, they create the train the AI to be able to do this, but in the process of the energy colliding and doing all of that, it actually AI becomes sentient. Ooh, that's maybe that's what they're trying to do. Maybe that's what they're trying to do.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Maybe they've done that and they're like, you know what? Maybe we need to find a way to undo it.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

I don't think they've done it yet. That we know of, that we know of.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

Keep in mind the like the the CERN collider is 175 meters deep.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

That is deep.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

It is very, very deep. So who knows? I mean, that could be a possibility, is that they're you know, they're pushing for sentience. That's what that's what they want. And they think that by causing these collisions and setting off these waves of energy, they know what kind of an impact it's already having on the planet. They're like, hey, let's, you know, let's throw another, let's throw another variable in here and and we'll call it AI and see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

Whoa, that could be wild.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

So let's go back to the Mandela effect. Okay. So there are so many different versions. And let me just say, I am a girl that mishears lyrics. So I'm sure if I mishear lyrics and think they're a thing that I could possibly misunderstand what I've seen or what I recollect. So we have everything from the Bear Stein Bears to the Bear Stein Bears, Fruit of the Looms, Cornucopia.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I remember that one. Fruit of the Loom had the cornucopia.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

The Shazam, Shack, or Sinbad. What else did we talk about? Looney Tunes.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

What was what was Shazam? Was it Shazam the genie? Where Sinbad was the genie.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Except they're saying Sinbad wasn't a genie, that it was Shack. And it's not Shazam, it's called something else.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

Oh, interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Yeah. So then there's um Luke, I am your father.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yes, Star Wars. I remember that. Luke, I am your father.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Yeah. And then there's But what is it now?

SPEAKER_03 16:56

It's like I am your father.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

I am your father.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

Oh, there's no Luke, I am your chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

No, I don't even think it's I am your father. I don't remember. It's something different. And then there's life is like a box of chocolates, or life is a box of chocolates, or life was a box of chocolates.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

I remember life is like a box of chocolates.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

I remember life is like a box of chocolates.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

Not life was like a box of chocolates. Because he's not talking that way.

unknown 17:18

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

Okay. That's kind of neat.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, so really interesting. Cause I mean, is it a mass, not really mass hysteria, but it's like a mass memory, right? Kind of like you have the people that all remember mass recollection of something. They all remember having been has seen aliens, not necessarily abducted by it. There was actually a school, I want to say in Africa, where the teachers, all the school kids, recollect aliens landing and having this experience where they met aliens. A whole school.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

I want to meet an alien.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

You want the alien to make you the supreme being.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

The representative.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

The representative of the world. But no, I think it's fascinating that that can happen. So in that same aspect, are we talking about the same thing with the Mandela effect?

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Again, this gets into a whole different related, but it's it's like if somebody went into an alternate timeline where that didn't exist. But you because in theory all timelines exist at the same time, you have people who remember it before it it shifted.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

True. That is true.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Right. And so there's the also you it gets into deja vu.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

Where you have deja vu. Yes. And you're like, hey, I remember already having this conversation before. Probably because you already did.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

In another timeline.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

In another timeline. I have that happen quite frequently, actually.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

It does.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Or there's this the again, there's this other I theory that anything, anytime you're it's like your higher self or your you know your spirit guides or your ancestors are basically just alternate versions of you that are giving you information. So you're all sharing information. It's kind of like a collective, but of the versions of you.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

And you're remembering is you basically being able to tap into all of those different versions of you.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

That's cool. And I mean, it's like what were you talking about? Your higher self. So the alternate version is is that your higher self, or was that one of your lower selves? Are you your higher self now, or were you your higher self?

SPEAKER_03 19:31

Well, I think I think the idea of your higher self is you you're just that's just basically like think of all of the different versions of you as fragments of the one, the higher self of you, and it's you're getting all of that information at the same time. So you're able to that that part of you use remembers everything. And so you're able to tap into all of that if you actually can.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

So I was trying to substantiate a little bit on the dimensions, and there are and there are some reported CERN researchers or scientists that actually have put published about different dimensions that they've identified. So some of the examples are the string theory that has 11 dimensions, the Randall Sundman model of the hidden spatial dimensions, and then other other experiments that had that they're stating were evidence of uh extra dimensions.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

I did not have time to go into trying to PubMed or look through to see if I could find any of their articles.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Yeah, I don't think that they've they've actually proven that there are other dimensions, but they there were again, and this is why all of this research happens, and the idea of string theory is actually quite quite fascinating that you know you have a bunch of ex a bunch of different universes that are all existing in the same space and time. So it is possible. I mean, there's so many people when you start talking to a lot of these high-level physicists or mathematicians that are saying, hey, we're not the only, we're not the only ones. There are versions of us that exist outside of here. It at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

But they just can't fully prove it yet.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Right. I mean, and then that goes back to spirits, one of you know, the movies that actually have that knock you out of the left field because you're expecting one outcome and in the end it's like mind-blowing. For me, uh, one of those was the others. Like the whole time you're thinking that these are haunting in a ghost, come and then you find out it's essentially almost another dimension. And so is that or ghost living on a different plane, or are they residual energies from from us when we pass?

SPEAKER_03 21:52

I don't think we ever truly pass. I think that is a again, that's one of those things that is being a human and being able to comprehend you. actually shifting from your energy from one dimension to another. I think that there's no finite, you're you're not a you're not final. You don't just pass and then everything you die and your soul goes to heaven or hell. That doesn't I don't think that exists. I think that in your reality as being a human you go through that phase of transition that people call death. Right. Right? But it's just basically going and leaving this your part of your consciousness leaving this plane of existence and moving on to something different. Or it could potentially just be like you you transition and boom you're in uh you're in another timeline.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

That's just you but a different version of you.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Not even a rebirth. You just you exist.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Yeah with all these memories. That's possible. That is possible. One of the going back to shows and just like mainstream things that a lot of people might associate with the show the good life. I don't know if you ever saw I never saw it was really interesting. So these characters they pass and then they're in this whatever whatever is considered their heaven which then becomes like you find out that they're not in heaven but the end of the show is they can decide whether or not they want to be there or if they want to turn into energy. So it was really fascinating that that's how like it progresses like there it's what you can comprehend because we still have that like attachment to being a human possibly when we pass. And I think that could be possible residual energy. And then when you've reached the point where you can comprehend that you're just energy that's when you move on either just being a part of the universe or going into another existence.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Yeah I think that there is at least in my opinion there's the idea of a collective consciousness. And the collective collective consciousness is part of energy of every being that exists on this planet or has existed on this planet since the beginning right and that retain you retain all the you know all of the energy you retain the memories you retain everything but it's not really the people anymore or the the beings anymore because the beings have have transitioned off to do other things potentially on other timelines or other planets for that matter. So there's always that memory of like oh I I I this happened or this happened or history happened yet again and repeated itself. So you start seeing those patterns repeat over and over and over again because of the collective consciousness. And when people say oh we all we need to raise the the vibration of the planet and I would always ask why why do we need that why why is that important well it's basically to shift the collective consciousness because that is what's holding everybody in a or at least the people that are not fully awake in this pattern to repeat over and over again. And there's also people who believe that other alternative beings are harvesting the energy of the people here. And that's why they keep keep it going.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

I mean that let's go back to the days of Greek gods or Buddhist Hindi gods god god like aliens like any of that like could be linked to that or that could just be a collective like the need to have something higher going to Clash of the Titans I love the original Clash of the Titans because they were always playing with the humans right trying to figure out like oh let's make Perseus do this let's put this in his way and that like is there something out there like that or that's controlling us or is it just energy?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

I don't know there was a there was a comic that I remember reading when when I was a when I was a teenager and it was basically there the Greek gods were there but they were losing their power because their power was based on people that worshiped them.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

So the more people that they had that worship them the more powerful that they were in existence because people actually made them happen.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Right. No for sure and I think that could be true for any of them and that I'll let you finish and then I have something to say.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

No no go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Okay so that actually takes me back to Coco Disney that remember me like you the poor people that were in that I don't know if it was like pregatory whatever level it was they didn't if they didn't have anybody remember them they disintegrated into like nothingness.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

So is there something to that on it kind of like made me think of maybe where you were going I I don't again that is another one of those things that's created by the fact that you need to be remembered by people here.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Correct. And honestly what if it's the other way around what if it's you know you're no longer remembered so now you're free yeah to move off into the next transition. And the people remembering you are the ones holding you back. So you're stuck.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Well I do think there might be something to that so again someone's been seeing a lot of our mom.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

Again you gotta you have to you have to you have to take a lot of stuff that happens in media and social media and traditional media with a grain of salt because all of that is meant to influence you to feel a certain way.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

It's made to influence you but I think that there in everything right in everything in life there's usually like the titty tit little tidbit of truth to it right or a theory at least it's a theory I don't think there's truth to I think to some things there's there's truth to some not every obviously not everything but there are certain things that I do think that there's a theory applied to it and it's not always malicious although it can be subliminal messages out there.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

But yeah I think that maybe somebody was inspired to think that in coco at least again it's it ties into everything that's all about ancestral veneration across many many cultures.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

Who thought that that was like a good idea somebody was like oh I gotta remember that person because they had such an impact on me in my life and I can't let them go. Yeah so every every so often I'm gonna create a a holiday or a special day where we remember all of these people and bring them back when maybe they weren't meant to be back. Or maybe they're already back.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

I mean I would I would just have to say like in in witchcraft or magic there are a lot of times that we try to harness the or honor our ancestors right because it's the stuff that they've taught us that takes us to what our knowledge base is, right?

SPEAKER_03 28:48

I mean I mean that's the theory of again that's that is a generational witching that is ancestral veneration because you you're you're believing that you are part of a bloodline that it's existed right and whatever they've done kind of impacts you in a certain way and you're learning from all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Right.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

But in the theory that all timelines exist at the same time is it you I don't know right maybe maybe it's all different versions of you.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Maybe one day CERN will be able to identify whether or not that's a thing because right now it's always that's why I keep I keep going back to it all depends on what you believe in.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Oh what do you subscribe to and what you believe in and knowing that everybody's belief is going to be different and everybody in their reality is right.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

And the truth is we don't know the truth. We don't that's why there are people that are doing all of these things because they're trying to find the truth a truth.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

A truth.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

Because again that's a whole different topic but truth is relative and truth the truth that you think is true now in 10 years you're probably going to be like fuck that wasn't true. But I thought it was true.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

So truth isn't real I I it's not I agree with that. I totally agree with that because how many times have we been checked on that where we're like oh this is this is my truth it's your truth's true at the moment but then when you become almost enlightened your truth might morph into something else.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

It's it's society's influence it's your belief system it's all of those things that you use in order to be able to make a decision on whether something is fits those things and checks the box it says okay that's true.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

But you don't know for sure.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah so you have a Reddit story for us right I do.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

I have a Reddit story that talks about again this one is a little bit interesting in that it is you can look at it as a parallel universe or you can maybe even think about it as time travel but I mean if you if you subscribe to the idea that all timelines exist at the same time and you can slip from one timeline to another there is a possibility that you moved into a version of you that existed in a in a different time and space on this timeline.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

That's cool.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Right so this comes from our Paranormal which is I I like our paranormal a lot and I'm gonna switch this over here I locked it so thanks for logging it. Here we go I was unaware this is what it was called and it was a thing until about a year ago this is from a Redditor there. In the fall of 2018 I was on a solo road trip to into Georgia buying fenders from a man for a truck I was restoring at the time I got to my destination went to leave and stopped to get gas upon entering the gas station everything was suddenly different. It in an indescribable I got this indescribable feeling that something had changed I went to pay for my gas and noticed behind the counter that the tobacco products had didn't have warning labels and they all looked very dated and different and there was no card reader on the credit card counter nothing on the counter for credit cards. The prices of things on the racks were different and designs of smokeless tobacco looked way different from what they were and I noticed that the drinks and the sodas in the store also were outdated. So I talked to the lady at the front counter and I said you know you're selling a lot of outdated tobacco and drinks why and she handed me a can and said everything's fresh and nothing's out of date and the date of the expiration on the can was July of 2000. At this point I could not believe what I was seeing it freaked me out so bad that I left and I drove 20 miles down the road and got gas somewhere else. To this day I have looked everywhere on Google maps and cannot locate the gas station there's simply nothing there.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

That is interesting.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

So it could be and I've heard multiple variants of this of things that have happened in Georgia in Arizona usually it's on a road usually it's on a road somewhere that's a little bit more out of the norm of what you get normal uh in in you know high trafficked areas and so yeah there's you roll in to a gas station and it's like you went back in time.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Yeah even in hotels like I've I've seen stories where like they're they get on a floor and it's a floor that doesn't exist. But in that moment in time it existed and then they usually it's a horror thing and then they run out and then next thing you know they get somebody to go up with them and that is not it's a completely different place. So I've heard multiple stories like that right which is really fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

So again if you believe in the parallel timelines it could be that in that other timeline that floor exists and there's a point where both of those timelines overlap and you just happen to be at that point.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Yeah. Have you ever heard of quantum leaping not the show but the meditation yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so again what are your thoughts on that it's a it's a philosophy and it's part of manifestation.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

It's the idea that if you focus your energy and your intention and you align to the frequency of what it is that you want instead of bringing in into the reality that you're at you jump into that reality into that reality or you align with the frequency of that reality and it happens for you. And I think that's kind of interesting. I again it's your conscious it's your consciousness your consciousness right so your consciousness is it it's not tied to anything and so it is possible that once you align your frequency that it allows that your consciousness to go here. Right. Kind of like you know it's it's infinite possibilities and so you're like okay here and your consciousness goes there. But in making that jump there now all of a sudden you spread out and you have multiple timelines that emerge from that one. That's because your consciousness is there. And I also have this is my belief in your reality it's basically you and when you meet somebody who also gives you that like I know you from somewhere in that jump that you're making aligning up to all these different frequencies you both align on the same frequency in the same time and space.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

And that's where you get that like I remember you. Yeah or you get that feeling like I know you from somewhere a soulmate or your twin flame your twin flame or whatever it is that that you believe in because both of your consciousnesses are active in that space. Yeah. Which rarely happens and this is why it's so it's so infrequent for it for it to be happening. So that's kind of the way I I think about that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

And so it's really difficult. It's kind of like you know trying to get two particles subatomic particles to smash together. Same kind of principle same idea.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Same kind of principle idea except you're you're the one manifest you're the you're the hydron collider.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Yeah or I mean or hadron collider the hadron collider yeah I mean think about this what if every time you make a decision in your life it spawns multiple universes that's of multiple timelines. Because you are a portal. Yeah or like you said you are the collider. You are the collider you're the one that's actually generating all of this everything that you see in the world is basically generated by you because this is what you see is a projection of your reality.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Fascinating so fascinating and there's so many different things that we can go into and maybe we'll we'll start picking and choosing some additional topics to talk about but I think that's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

I think we needed to give a little more information of CERN other than like oh my gosh all these things are happening but why are they happening right yeah and I think a lot of people a lot of people just didn't know what CERN was right and what its purpose was.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Correct. And then what who were the the the predecessors of of of CERN and what is what is out there in the future.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Oh I I mean with AI possibilities are what what what other countries have these massive colliders that are that are going on. Correct I mean those are these are things that obviously governments are letting they're letting us know about there's CERN there obviously the schools that are doing the research whether it's Stanford or Berkeley or wherever it is that has a collider even though it's on a smaller scale like they're obvious it has to be mainstream if they're they're teaching new generations to do this right so and who knows here's another what if what if so there's the there's the idea that extraterrestrial races have come onto this planet and basically we're all genetic experiments for these people and there were there is a theory that they had technology and one of these technologies was basically stargates which would allow you to travel through dimensions.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

Now think about this what if the the colliders that they're building are based on old technology that's existed but they don't know how it fully works but they're trying to get it to work it now but they don't have the know how they don't have the know how or anybody who can actually show them how to to do it but they have the remnants of a technology that exists.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

So my brain is going somewhere else because Skinwalker Ranch I don't know how many of you have watched that so there's something underground there. Right they've they see it every time that they do their studies of the land that there's something there. What if that was a remnant of a collider from like years ago or from an ancient civilization. A stargate a gate that would actually allow you to portal correct to a different dimension or a different plane I mean they do believe there's other dimensions within that property itself. Absolutely and they have every time they're doing an experiment like random stuff happens and these are physicists that are doing these experiments.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Yeah so I I mean I could totally see that that's a that's a thing. So they they have they have the they have ideas they have old technology they've incorporated old technology and maybe let's just take this a little bit further maybe what they needed was AI to be able to allow them to really reach the pinnacle of recreating something like that.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Right?

SPEAKER_03 39:20

Recreating an actual Stargate portal whatever it is that you want to call it do you think anyone has ever accomplished a Stargate? I I don't think so I don't think so I think that there's probably some that exist but they're probably hidden buried somewhere or somebody tried it and they're like maybe yeah or they're maybe like maybe no no I think this is that was a mistake let's close this thing up because it's it's bad.

SPEAKER_00 39:43

It's or oh I didn't my bad I didn't want to go there sometimes sometimes you can't take things back. So hopefully you know that in those situations they were things that were they were able to take back.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

Well I think we would love to hear from you guys what what you think because there's so many different theories that are out there and everybody has or a very strong affinity towards one or or their belief system is so strong in something or maybe they've encountered something like if you guys have encountered you know time slips or you feel like you jumped timelines I'd love to understand we'd love to know what it what experience you actually had how it impacted you and what changed in your reality. That would be so you know was it is it that you felt yourself in between like I'm not here and I'm not there and then suddenly you're you're you're you feel good again but everything around you seems slightly off maybe your your pets don't behave quite like they used to or you know people act a little bit different. I don't know I'd love to hear it we'd love to hear we'd love to hear from you guys. So that concludes our podcast I think that was a really cool and fun podcast. So stay tuned for the next installment I think we'll we'll cook something up I want to talk about skinwalkers werewolves and things like that but you know I've got to get I've got to get Maria to buy into I'm I'm all for it I'm all for it I love speaking of the people and we still have to talk we still have more to talk about vampires because I I think that that is we still haven't really fully no we've done a deep dive into we did not deep dive at all vampires and the different I'm fascinated by the different types of vampires that exist and how passionate people are about the group that they belong to.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yes yeah absolutely so cool all right y'all well thank you for tuning in we'll see you next time