SPEAKER_00 0:47

So be okay. Before we get started, one announcement. So if you're if anyone here is um is a parent of a student for first hall of communion, we have a sign-in sheet next to the coffee. I figured if you want coffee, you want to sign in. So if you're because one of the things that we're doing is the um part of the confirm of the first communion programs are asking the parents to come to two of these, one in the fall, one in the spring. So if you're one of those parents, go ahead and and sign in there. Alright. So I think it does this need to be a little louder. Seems like it's a little soft. I don't know. Just a little louder here. Let's see. I don't know which one to turn up here.

unknown 1:33

Let's see.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

This is a little bit louder there. Just want to make sure that everybody can hear. Okay? Alright. So let's pray. Name of the Father, name of the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and kindle them the fire of your love. Send forth your spirit, and they shall be created, and now show into the face of the earth. Let us pray. God instruct the hearts of the faithful by the light of the Holy Spirit. Grant us in the same spirit to be truly wise and never to rejoice in this consolation through Christ our Lord. Amen. Our Lady Seat of Wisdom and pray for us. Name of the Father, and of the Son of the Holy Spirit. Amen. So just want to build on, just want to talk a little bit, build on last week to a certain degree, and then I'm going to get back to the book. Because next time I'd like to talk about grace. You know, there's that little section on grace. So I'd like to have a class on that. So that gives you because I would looking through the contents of the book. I don't see a comprehensive discussion of grace, because I think it's very important to understand some of the concepts there. So what I want to talk about today is we talked about the nature of a thing having a form and matter. So now I want to talk about the human person. So what we understand about the human person is that, of course, the is we're made in the image and likeness of God. So we're going to talk about what a little bit about what that means. Because we know from Genesis chapter 1, verse 26, and God said, Let us make human beings in our image after our likeness. We're going to talk about this specifically about the individual person. I'm sure later on when we get into morality or we talk about the sacrament of holy matrimony, we can also talk about how that images the marriage covenant. But that's kind of put that off to the side for now. We're just going to talk about the individual person made in the image and likeness of God. So we know that all things that exist have form and matter. The, of course, form gives matter its shape, matter the principle in the things being, which is able to be determined by form, potency versus actuality, right? So each of us has, right, we have we have a form, right, and we have individuated matter, right? So you're not me, I'm not you. Right? We have, you know, the you know, there's two baseballs that are distinguished from one another. You know, one has one, one has one MLB signature, one has a different one, right? So there's so we see that the base baseball has a form, it's round, it has stitches, right? It has a certain form, and of course, then the sub the substance of it, right? The material that makes it up, of course, is its form. But also we see that so we see that the spiritual soul is the form of the human body. And we we see this in Genesis chapter 2. So the next chapter of Genesis chapter 2, we have a different uh account of creation, right? We have a more specific account of the creation of man and woman. And this is what is said about forming the man, right? Then the Lord God formed the man out of the dust of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. So notice none of the other animals have this said about them. So he didn't breathe life into an elephant or a lion or a tiger or a bear. Oh my. He didn't breathe life into your dog, sorry. I know everyone gets upset by talking about your dog and your cats and your various things that we blessed on, well, the various animals we blessed on, you know, St. Francis Day. We can get into that later, and then there'll be lots of sorrow and tears and all that other stuff. So, but that we'll save for another time. So this is a very important part that the soul is the form of the body, the spiritual soul, which we have distinguished from the animals. We have powers that are distinguishable from animals. So we want to talk about that because we know that, okay, the soul is the soul itself is is immaterial. It is it is, of course, it's the it it you know, of course, as the form of the body, and we know that at death, right, the soul separates from the body, the soul perjures, the soul is eternal. So when God breathes the breath of life into man, right, that we have a our soul is the spirit that animates the body, right? That gives us gives us life, the spiritual soul. So there's different powers of the soul, right? There's various various types. Like, for example, our our senses are part of the soul, right? There's there's there's a there's a power of the soul which is called the vegetative, right, which is what gives what gives life to our body. So our ability to breathe, right, and all these other things that we can do. And we can move, right? Those are powers of the soul. But what we want to focus specifically on what is makes us distinct from the animals, and that is our ability, right, to have to have to have to make reasoned decisions, right? To have an intellect and a will. Those are two things that we have that animals don't have. So, for example, there's an experiment they do with monkeys. If you put a you know, there's like a trap and you put a banana on the other side of the trap, and it can easily try to get out if it does this one thing, but it just won't do it because it holds onto the banana, right? Try throwing, uh I love torturing dogs this way. If you have a linoleum floor and you have two balls and you throw the two balls into the kitchen, and the dog skates on the linoleum floor and then slams into the oven and then comes back with one of the balls, and then you do it again, and does the same thing, and a dog duck keeps doing it, and it's like, hmm. Yeah, that's why dogs are fun because they're comedy, right? Dogs are that's why we have dogs. I don't know why people have cats, because cats like do their own thing, right? They they're like independent, they're like do this, you know, they do all this stuff, and you're like, why? You know, why are you scratching my thing? Why are you on top of this? Why are you doing that? Dogs are just like, well, you know. That's why dogs are fun, right? So, but you know, but we know that animals have an instinct, and we know that you know animals cannot, they they don't have the ability to think of things that transcend us. So, for example, we can combine forms to come up with something that's totally new that doesn't exist in reality. So think about this. You know, we we we uh you know, little kids, uh little girls love to have their teachers, they like to love they love unicorns, right? They love to have like a pink, pink uh, you know, sweatshirt with a unicorn on it, with the little rainbows and stuff, right? A unicorn does not exist. Right? It's a horse, and somehow somebody put a horn on it. That comes from a different animal, like a horn from like a different that comes from like a different animal, like a goat or something. So we combine what we see in a goat, we combine, when we see in a horse, we put them together, we come up with a unicorn. All right, that's a faculty because we're we are our imaginations, our minds, are able to do things, right, be creative in a way that we can we can put we can have this creativity. That's a faculty that's beyond, right? It's a spiritual faculty. So when you think about the creativity of, let's say, science fiction or fantasy or a lot of these things, that that comes from a faculty that's spiritual. That's isn't that interesting? Because we can take, right, what's in this in this created world, we can take what's created and with our and with our minds, with the ability that God gave us in our spiritual soul, we can do something like create a unicorn, right? Or you know, cartoons, or science fiction, or you know, these sorts of things kind of indicate to us that we can, or we can, for example, right, come up with automobiles, right, inventions. And the things that we're we see every day, right? So we we're gonna go out in our parking lot, we're gonna get in a car and drive somewhere. I mean, who came up with the idea of a car? That's a spiritual faculty, right, to come up with just the wheel itself. These are things that are not coming, that don't, that, because as animals do, is they are limited to the this the material reality and nothing beyond that.

unknown 10:40

Right?

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Your dog isn't gonna go, you know, I really like this kind of ball. That would be really lovely if you gave me this ball, and if you gave me this ball, I'd be much happier if you gave me this ball rather than that other one. I don't like the other one because it's rubbish. Right? I'm not gonna say that. Your dog is not gonna do that, right? So, anyway, that's my little comedy for you, a little money python S sort of thing. I'm not gonna preach like this if you're thinking that, no, won't do it, right? And you'll think, oh father, don't be funny, don't be all cheeky like that, right? So um, so let's so this is what we so let's talk about. There's different that intellectual power of the soul indicates that we are above the animals, that there that we have a spiritual reality. Okay. So, because we can conceive, again, we can conceive forms. Like we talk about forms or ideas. You know, like you know, remember Plato had this idea that there are these forms in eternity. Okay, so we can understand those forms, of course, uh, you know, because we're given this spiritual capacity by God to have an intellect which imitates, right, is an imitation of God. Since God can create, then we have the ability to participate in that creation in a very unique way, you know, through our inventiveness, through our understanding of the world, these sorts of things. So, what so we want to talk about, first of all, um let's talk about the the sort of powers of intellect. I think that's interesting. We have now there's a term that St. Thomas Aquinas uses called common sense power. Now, it doesn't mean common sense in the me in the way that we think of, oh, but that's just common sense, right? If you do this, you know this is gonna happen. No, that's that's not what he means. What he's talking about is we have five senses, and we we know that those five senses can understand and grasp reality. And that common sense can kind of puts together that reality in our in our intellect. So for example, you know, when you uh have a bowl of ice cream in front of you, you know that it has uh, let's say it's vanilla. So vanilla ice cream has the quality of white, right? There might be uh maybe a qu uh a quality of smell, right? You might be able to detect a little bit of that. Um you might you're gonna detect coldness, and you're gonna detect a kind of a kind of thickness and taste. So these senses all come together, are kind of put together so we conceive it as ice cream. Does that make sense? Right? It comes together as ice cream. So that's sort of the common sense power. And then what it's able to do is put that into our imagination. Which is not just, we think of imagination as that capacity to sort of be creative, but in the soul, what the imagination is, it's that place where we receive images. By receiving these images. So, because we run off of images. Different images create, you know, are remember, will eventually create that, you know, we respond to those images. So, you know, for example, you know, if you're you're watching a movie, right, the movie is placing an image into your in those images in your imagination, eventually, those are gonna create responses. So if you're seeing you know, a horror movie, you're gonna respond, you're gonna be scared, right? Or if you're seeing an adventure movie, you're gonna have a little anxiety because you want the person. So the so the so we're gonna see these images come into our imagination. Okay. And then there'll be then what happens is there is that the the intellect then can extract that image so that we can understand that it to sort of say, well, what is this? What is this thing? Right? Extract that from the imagination. We have a thing called the cogitative power, which makes associations. So for example, this is the the the faculty of the intellect whereby, so when we see that scary movie, right, you s if you see something that's you know that there's a specific image, we associate fear with that image. So the cogitative power basically it makes associations. It associates the image in the movie to fear, and we experience the emotion of fear, okay? Because the emotions or the passions are also part of this, part of this. Uh, and then that's how we can, of course, that that image then we can then comprehend that image, we can understand it, we can also come to conclusions, right? We can make rational judgments about that. So those all point to the ability of this of the soul to do something that it is not material. Because there's the part of our intellect is dependent on material, which is imagination, the cogitative power, memory, right, you know, the imagination. These are the these are things that our brain is doing. But then there's another part of the intellect which is immaterial. So though what happens is that the the material part of our intellect, which is part of the brain, which is part of the so the so this still form of the body, right? The soul, soul form the body. But then there's that immaterial aspect where we can reason. We come to conclusions. And these are the this so this is pointing to what is made in the image and likeness of God. And then, based on that, those conclusions, then we engage the will. Then we put what we have concluded, what or understanding that is the basis for putting engaging in some form of action. So we have a free will, which means that there is no compulsion in the human person to do anything that, you know, for example. So by our biology, right, we can we make there's nothing we we that compels us to do this or the other thing. Now we could talk about addictions and those sorts of things, but that's a defect, a defect of the use of the will. That's a defect in the person, the habits and the vices that have inclined the person, right, to engage in addiction. Because if we don't have a free will, then we're we're don't we don't have the image and lightness of God, right? Because God chooses to create. Because notice in the book of Genesis, there's nothing that compels God to bring anything into existence. It says, and God said, You know, let there be light, for example, you know, let there be animals, all this, all this. There's no compulsion in God. That's one thing that you know people don't understand is that it's not that God was lonely and he was like, you know, I'm really lonely in the Holy Trinity, so I'm gonna like, you know, I'm gonna do this creation thing. I'm gonna, you know, it's to manifest his goodness. Creation, we're gonna get into that later. So there's no compulsion in God, there's no compulsion in us. Okay. So then the will then enacts what the is determined by what is coming into how what we have determined based on what sense sensory data has come in through the five senses, how that's put together by common sense, it's put into the imagination, right? Or and also maybe associated with there's a memory that might be associated with that. All that data, now they'll say Thomas Aquinas called this the phantasm, right? And then that is, right, then the intellect acts on that image, that that phantasm, which is you know, got the emotions associated with it, all these things, and then the the intellect makes a conclusion that the will can then act upon. So that that that's that's that's where the spiritual faculty of the rational soul. So I hope this is this is more of a summary. I'm not getting into like the nitty-gritty detail of the with the anthropology of St. Thomas Aquinas. But I think it's important for us to understand this because we're gonna be getting into the next time I want to talk is about grace, so I wanted to kind of have an understanding of this the the powers of the at least the capacity of the soul to make decisions, to make judgments, because I think grace is is perfecting that. Okay. How about uh for now? Any any questions so far? Well, what we what we want to say is um there's a couple things going on there. So Mary is preserved from original sin. So she she hasn't have the problem of concupiscence, which is the inclination to sin. So then therefore she has more total freedom to say yes to God. Right? So she's prepared for that moment of enunciation by grace, by the grace of the macho conception, to be preserved from original sin. And then that's also the basis for her ability to consent, if that makes sense. Not compelled, compelled to be a not uh I would say we're we're eat more we're eat more easily drawn to it. Because concupiscence is an inclination to sin. Of course, when we talked about what happened with Adam and Eve, right? That that concupiscence inclines us to sin. So one of the things that is part of us is the passions, right? So for example, our emotions, our desires for for earthly goods. These things are are right, these are the things that come into our. So for example, we have that sensory data comes in, I detect there's a bowl of chocolate ice cream in front of me. So my appetite is excited, right? So I get, oh, there's chocolate ice cream. So then there's a to then the passion, right, of you know, of desire for that, for the taste of ice cream, or if for some reason I'm hungry and I fill my stomach with it, even though that's unhealthy, right? So there's so that passion then, right? So then our will can perceive all right, there's this thing in front of me called ice cream. So I know what the quality of ice cream is, I know it has a certain taste, I know it's cold. Um, you know, I have a memory of what that is, too, so probably a memory of that is pulled into. This situation. I know what chocolate ice cream typically tastes like, and I know that's attractive and good. So then the will is then disposed to consume the ice cream. Now I can act against that. I can say, no, I'm too fat. I don't want to eat that. I can't be eating this stuff. It's going to keep me up all night. So that's that's the thing, you know. Um that's that's like other other contrary thoughts, other memories that can brought in. So the cogitative power is associating uh taste, you know, smell, uh, you know, quality the thickness of it, the taste of it, and also bringing in the other memories, right? Bringing the memories of staying up all night, not being able to sleep if you have too much of this, right? And that all goes into that phantasm and then goes into the intellect, and then that's when, of course, you know, you're you're you have to you're making a decision, all right. Is this good for me to eat? Is this bad for me to eat? You know, what is my decision at that point? You're you're making it your decision based on your intellect to make a decision on that data, and you can say no to that. No, a dog won't say no if you put chocolate ice cream in front of it. Even though a dog, it shouldn't, we know that chocolate is bad for a dog. You know, if you feed chocolate to a dog enough, you're gonna poison the dog, right? If you hate your neighbor, right, don't do that, you know. Right, don't do that. I hate that dog, you know. So it's always barking at me. Don't go in there and go, hey, can we have some Hershey's? You know? Don't be doing that. That's no good. That's a violation, right? Go to confession, okay? So um, so so what we're so what we're what we're so you know, a dog can't resist that. Even though it's we know it's bad, the dog doesn't have the memory of knowing that chocolate is bad. And it's so it just it just boom eats this, consumes it without there's no there's no thinking, there's no rationality at all. It's just you know, food, you know, boom, that's it. Instinct. Okay? Where with human beings, we have a we have the rational soul that can come to the conclusion that, well, okay, this is okay for me. I've had a good day of working out, I had a nice dinner, this is the right amount of ice cream, it's not too much, I can eat this, it's fine. Or it's this is too much for me. I have it's a it's a it's a little more that I could probably take, it's gonna keep me up all night. No, I won't eat it. See, we can come, see those those conclusions can come. I went through the process of ration, of doing some kind of reasonable thing. There's different, you know, proposed like premises that come to a certain conclusion. That that's what we can do as human beings as opposed to the other animals, which that, of course, is pointing to, right, a spiritual, rational soul. Okay. So what what we're so as we talk about concupiscence, so what happened in original sin is that those powers became inclined towards sin. So the intellect is darkened to a certain degree, right? The intellect is darkened, that there's a disorder of the passion. So what happens in when we give in to sin, because the will is oriented towards the good. Because we all want the good. The will is oriented towards what is good. Like for the ice cream, right? What do we want? We want the enjoyment of the ice cream. That's a good thing. Right? I enjoy Oreo cookies, but having 12 of them is not good for me, right? So it's oriented towards the good. But what the inclination to sin does is that it the passion is overcomes the reason. So what happens is the passion for hunger or the passion uh, in this case for taste, overwhelms the intellect. So then the intellect is sort of serving the passion rather than the intellect and the will controlling the passion.

unknown 25:44

Right?

SPEAKER_00 25:44

That's why when you talk about um when people go on these, go on a so-called diet, right? Um, that's what everyone is trying to do is to take the passion of or the desire for tasty food, right, and and to sub to submit that to an intellect, to the intellect and the will. To pursue the good of health, we're going to eat food that is healthy for us, right? So we're not going to have hamburgers and hot dogs and french fries. We're going to be having grilled chicken and salad and fruit. Uh, we're going to be doing some, we're going to be doing some exercise, these sorts of things that we are, then we're sub we're we're subjecting the passions to the intellect and the will. That's what people are attempting to do during a diet. Okay, or trying to get healthier, to lose weight or reduce their blood pressure, these sorts of things. So that's how the spiritual the spiritual aspect of the soul can work in sort of a practical, sort of practical application. Okay. And again, for example, like I said, our our ability to you know to perceive forms, right? So we can we know what the form of a chair is, and we can make a chair, we can do the form of an automobile, you know, that these are concepts that we can then bring into reality. All right, or we can create new concepts. So that that's a so our creativity as man, when you think about the the the world and all the technology that we have created, all of that is because we have made in the image and likeness of God, we have the ability to participate in creation, right, because God gives us dominion over the earth. That dominion is tied to the fact that we have a rational spiritual soul. So the breath of life given to Adam enables him to cultivate the garden, enables, right, to cult to engage in agriculture, right, to have tools to be able to cultivate, you know, to create tools, right, to create sort of new ideas and new forms. So that's where so that's where you know this these um powers are coming from. So that gives us, so that helps us be distinct from other creatures. As much as you know, certain animals have higher, higher levels of intellect, they still don't have what we possess, right? Dolphins or certain higher levels of primates, things like that. Right? There's certain things that they do that we think, you know, because we think that you know dogs actually understand us, and they probably they just they don't understand the way we think we just oh that dog lovely, right? Or that dog, doesn't that dog love you? You know, you know, don't want to say this too loud in front of the father of hair, right? So now this is going all over the internet. Sorry, Father, you know. I I like the I like the dog too. I like to pet the dog, but the little fuzzball that runs around. So galloping fuzzball, right? So okay. Any other questions on this uh subject matter? It's a little little thicker. I just want to do a little bit of an idea of this the power of we that we have that's above the animals that sort of point to the fact of a spiritual reality that the soul is the form of the body and that it's not something that is material. Right? Yeah, could you define phantasm? So it's so it's all the so it's so the phantasm is what is think of all of the all of the data that comes into our mind that's put together. So into the imagination. So you're talking, so you're talking about the your sense data, your memory, emotions, like all of that is put into this sort of data set that goes into your intellect. Does that make sense? Right? So you're like, for example, like I said, ice cream, you know, it's it's uh has a certain taste, has a certain thickness, certain look, um, so uh, you know, maybe even a certain smell. Um, and then you have memory, um, past memories of eating ice cream, like all that comes to comes together. Does that make sense? Okay, you can yeah, so yeah. Uh sure. Oh, right, over here, okay. Yeah, we'll do the lady first because we're courteous, yeah. It can be either or, it depending uh depending on the mental illness. Um so when you're talking, you know, so trauma, okay, of what people who suffer from mental illness due to trauma, what happens is that that trauma, that memory of that trauma helps that it distorts their ability to make rational judgments, okay, because you have the memory of the trauma makes them make improper associations. So this will be called a wound, right, in psychological terms. So that memory of trauma, whatever that was, okay. So whenever a person then experiences something that reminds them of that trauma, as insignificant or as significant as that as that experience might be, the cogitative power then pulls that memory into the imagination, which then pulls up the passion of fear. Right? And then that pulls, then the the the it that goes into the intellect, and then the intellect makes a decision based on that information, which might not be appropriate to what is occurring. Because the mental illness is when we consider people mental illness is that they they make improper, uh inappropriate reactions to what we would consider normal stimuli. Like, for example, um, someone who uh has had um you know some kind of trauma, like you're you're getting into you're like having a a conflict over something, but then the other person has a disproportionate anger towards you, and you're like, where did that come from? And that's because their memory of prior event has been triggered, it goes into the imagination, that memory, fear, and then I need to defend myself against this, what this person is doing, because it's attacking this part of me. Does that make sense now?

unknown 32:13

It does.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

Yeah. Right, because it's because it's part of the now the memory is part of the material, like the the the both it's both material and immaterial, right? It's because it's part of the the power of this power of the intellect that's in your brain, okay? That's like the memory, okay? So but that's going into your intellect, and so it's saying, okay, I need to defend myself against this. This is this is reminding me of this threat that I experienced earlier in my life, so therefore I need to do something to defend myself versus that. Right? Now there's other there's other aspects of that with psychology, has discovered how things like stay in your nervous system, and that that these all kind of cohere to, let's say, what we've discovered in sort of psychological terms, how we're the because remember, we're psychosomatic, right? The idea, so that makes sense because we're a body-soul composite. So what affects the soul affects the body, right? So that makes sense in terms of uh psychological. In fact, you know, um what I brought with me is um this to look, this is Father Ripper. You might know Father Chad Ripper. You know him a lot from he talks a lot more about um deliverance, right? He's very he he he gets a lot of you know uh press about that. He's also written a three-volume book on psychology, okay? He's he's also a psychologist. So um so he he's actually written some books on that based on tomistic um anthropology. I just gave you kind of the basic outline. I didn't give you like the nitty-gritty details as I didn't I I I well, first of all, I didn't have enough time to really get into those details. I figured I don't want to overwhelm everybody. So all right, you had a question over here, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yeah, uh first, it would be great if we did the English accent all the way through.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

All right, you lot stand for prayer, right? Yeah, yeah, you want me to sound more intelligent than actually am, right? Yeah, okay. I do a coffee from London, that's what I can do. Or if you want, if I'm angry with you, but I'll be I'll do sculpt. Stop having a coffee. Stop listening to what I'm telling you. You know, anyway, that's how bad that is. That's that's my rubber Scottish accent, but anyway. That's for stand-up comedy purposes, not for educational ones, okay. Okay, that's just for brief moments of hilarity, okay? Um anyway, any did you have a uh a a more you did have an actual question? Uh love your comedy, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:46

So client spends uh seemingly considerable amount of time talking about conscious.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

Well, conscious is a spiritual power that is another that's actually what um basically I think John Henry Newman kind of uses that as a proof of the existence of God. That we that we have uh a sense of right and wrong. So there I think everyone has this sense of right and wrong. Now you can inform your conscience, you can inform it, like but it but it's it is a spiritual power that comes into comes into play. So that's something that we all have this sense. Because whenever we know we've done something wrong, we then incur the the passion of guilt, right? We have this feeling of that of unworthiness or shame that comes from that. So yeah, conscience does is a spiritual power that is. I'd have to I'll have to look up for you where that where that comes into the picture in terms of the you know one of the powers of the soul. But is that's definitely a a power that is um that doesn't come from the the sort of the physical part of our being, it could be a spiritual power. That makes sense. Okay. Um all right, anyone else here today? Fully stem stymied everybody, okay? Your brains hurt, okay?

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

That's why you're paying all this money for this thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Does everybody then have a conscience?

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Yep.

unknown 36:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Everyone has a conscience. Now, conscience can be dead deadened, right? It can be um, you know, for example, you know, uh people who commit serial evils, for example, uh, like for example, in people in, let's say, authoritarian regimes, right? They their conscience gets deadened because they commit evils um on behalf of the authority authorit authoritative power, like for example, Nazi Germany types of things. Um but it's still there. It's still there. It's just it's sort of pushed into the background. Um yeah, there was a movie I saw not too long ago. Uh I I need a it's a dark film, but I it's a it's it's recent, it's a recent independent film from Europe. And what it's about, it's about this family that lives, that the dad, the father of the family is actually running a concentration camp, and they live next to the camp. And the family the guy's raising his family, has a wife, tries like a it's like this weird juxtaposition of like normal family life, and you never see what happens in the concentration camp. You only hear what's going on, but it impresses upon you like this whole idea of conscience. And this whole idea that this guy has sort of like he lives a sort of bifurcated world, you know. So, um, because eventually conscience will eat away you at you because when you commit these serial evil kind of because what's going on is in these authoritarian regimes is that the regime has sort of overwhelmingly convinced you that you're pursuing a good, but you're committing evil on behalf of the good, sort of rationalizing in your brain, well, this is okay to do because there's a greater good involved. That's where the will is still oriented towards the good, if that makes any sense. Because you're committing an e you're but you're making the mistake of committing a grave evil in order to produce some kind of good. Okay. Alright, so I think I'm at 1040, so this is time. So um, so I I guess everybody's hopefully knows there's no gray matter on the floor. Okay, that's good. So let's say a little prayer. Name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Spirit, amen. Give you thanks, Almighty God, for the affections, resolutions, inspirations getting this time and meeting. We ask your help to put them into effect. Our Mac and Mother, St. Joseph, garden angels, intercede for us. Amen. Name of the Father, and of the Son of the Holy Spirit, amen. If anybody wants to come up and say hello and ask me another thing, that's good too. Okay. And uh next time I talk, it'll be about grace. We'll be back in the book. I know you're all like, oh yeah, good. Get back to that book, Father.

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All right.