Immediate Euphoria | Episode 6

This week’s episode explores the joys of smoking pot in high school (boomers and gen z call it weed), attending Prince’s Purple Rain tour at the LA Forum, answering listener emails, and having a nervous breakdown. It’s all happening here in Forehead Corner.

00:00 – 3:07 Intro & Nervous Breakdown
3:07 – 12:16 Listener Emails, Alocohol and Pot vs. Weed
12:17 – 15:28 Toxic Friends
15:28 – 21:56 Prince’s Purple Rain & Puberty
21:56 – 28:51 Finnish Jobs
28:51 – 40:02 Difficult Situations
40:02 – 43:54 Laurie from Euphoria
43:54 – 49:54 Baskets Behind-the-Scenes
49:54 – 51:20 How Does Your Brain Work?
51:20 – 57:52 Death by Banana Bread
58:00 – 1:03:12 Podcast Subreddit & Pranks by Zach Galifinakis
1:03:12 – 1:05:25 Outro

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Transcript

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Big gang, welcome to Forehead Corner. Um, it's your girl side part Tuesday, uh, but you'll be hearing this on a Wednesday because this is the main episode. And I just want to remind everybody, the main episode is free. And keep that in mind throughout this episode because your girl had a nervous breakdown this weekend, not as prepared as I would like to be, but I am gonna do, I'm gonna answer to the best of my ability some listener emails that I have on my iPad. No brag, I did buy an iPad months ago because I thought, um, you know what I need is another I need an iPad to take pictures of. Should I pause? I don't mind starting from where I was. I think it's funny. I forgot what I was talking about. I'm gonna start over. Okay, no big deal. Hey gang. Uh welcome to Forehead Corner. Um it's I'm your host, Martha Kelly, and um I am recording at the Sides and Sounds studio in Burbank, California with Jason Crow, um who is the producer slash sound engineer slash um extremely helpful teammate. That sounds corporate, I don't mean it that way. Um, but Jason uh records podcasts here and um self-tape auditions, and he loves to work with creative people, so give him a jangle, um, which means a phone call. I don't know if young people know what that jangle means, um, because we used to have, I don't know if you guys know this. We used to have phones that were little square boxes, and the um the the you would hold you pick it up like this, and there was a cord attached, and I guess it jangled. I don't know. Um, anyway, this is the main episode. Uh, and um I just want to remind everybody it is free, and um it and it's keep that in mind today, especially because your girl had a low-key nervous breakdown this weekend, and so I did not uh once again didn't prepare as much as I wanted to, but I am going to answer some listener emails and then talk about some other stuff. Um and I'm going to Comic Con this weekend, so uh this is Tuesday the 21st, maybe. And then by the time you hear this all have come and gone. So um here's hoping it's fun. I think it will be. And what do you care? And why am I putting this on your doorstep? It's not your problem. But I think it will be fun. Okay, I think this is the um Oh that's a that's a business email. Um, okay, um let me I think this is the first one that I have not yet answered. So um I think I uh someone uh I'm not gonna say names um because unless the email specific specifically says I can, which this one doesn't. Um, but this is um my perspective on leaving 12-step programs and not having fallen apart or died in the gutter. Well, I did low-key fall apart this week. Periodically, I do. The truth, not I don't land in the gutter, but I do low-key fall apart um periodically, but I was doing that when I was in 12-step programs, and so are a lot of people. Um I talked about I think I talked a lot about leaving 12-step programs in last week's one, one or both episodes. So I'll just say that um I left, let's see, three years ago. Is that right? Two and a half years ago. And um it has greatly improved my life, and I'm still sober. Um my uh I've been sober 22 and a half years, and um I don't have any desire to drink, and I don't have any shred of a belief that I that if I drank I would somehow be better at it than I was 23 years ago. Um the things that were helpful for me in AA were hearing other people who who responded to alcohol the way that I did. And the way that I responded to it was from the first time I got drunk, which was at 13 years old, the moment that I felt the effects of alcohol, it caused a euphoric feeling. And my immediate reaction in my mind was I have to keep this going. And when you're that young, and like in high school and early college, early college, I still haven't finished college, but um all of college. Um when you're young, it's hard to gauge how much you need to drink to to stay at the level you want to be at. So you tend to overdo it. And because I hated throwing up and I hated being hungover in my twenties, I mostly stuck to marijuana instead of drinking. But anytime I did drink, like at a, you know, a Christm work Christmas party or um a wedding or a funeral, anything that was like a special event where where everybody was drinking, those are the only times I really drank in my 20s for the most part. Um, I always got drunk. I've never ever felt like having one beer and been like, that's I'm good. I've never experienced that. And so I remember that, and when I was in AA, I talked about it a lot. I heard other people talk about that. I read about it in the literature, and I'm very clear that if that's how alcohol always affected me, it would still affect me that way. And I'm don't miss it. Occasionally I miss marijuana because um it's like I mean, to be a corny cliche, it is a trip. Pot, as we called it in my day. Now you guys call it weed, but I want you to know that when I was young, when I was the age that millennials and gen Z's are now, the people who called it weed were the old hippies. So you guys are actually, we're flipping it. You guys are the old hippies now because it when I was your age, it was pot. And it is a trip. Um, you should wait until you're a grown adult and out of the house and in a place that it's legal before you smoke it or eat it if it's an edible. Did I wait until I was grown and out of the house? No. Uh, no, I got stoned. No one asked this part, but I did get stoned. I tried it a few times. This is the other thing is I don't know why this is, but and I don't know if it's even true, but I heard it was true when I was young. The first three or f two or three times I smoked it, didn't feel anything. And then I remember the time I got I smoked it and got really got high, and it was very clear to me how high I was was when me and my sister and our friends went to see the movie Purple Rain in the $2 cheap theater in Hermosa Beach, California. Smoked it in the car, got rip roaring high, got out of the car, I remember laughing at nothing, like doubled over, unable to stop laughing, not knowing why, and going, oh, this is we're all we're all high. This is great. And then um going into the theater and the movie had already started and it was dark. I needed glasses in high school. I almost never wore them, certainly wasn't wearing them that night. Um, so couldn't see, stoned to the rafters. We walk into the dark theater, and I'm trying to find open seats. We're all trying to find where there's four of us can sit together. And because I'm so nearsighted and high, I keep going up to the end of a row of seats and leaning in, thinking it looks empty, leaning in to make sure, and then being right in someone, my face right in someone's face before I realized it was in fact occupied. I think that happened like three times before one of the other people I was with found us some seats. But it was so I was 17. I don't recommend it, but it was wonderful. Um and also got, I think when I was 17 or 18, we went to a cabin in Big Bear with my parents and my a friend of our, a friend of me and my sisters, and then my three of my brothers' friends, and then another family who had kids our age, teenagers, and we all got really high off marijuana, and our parents didn't know, and then we went going from the bedroom out into the kitchen where they were, and just being the thing about it's much harder to hide being drunk around your parents. Um it's relatively easy to hide being high, but you feel so paranoid you're sure they they know what's going on, but they didn't. Anyway, it's fun to go down memory lane. Um the thing that keeps me from being one of those people who's sober, California sober, who doesn't drink but smokes pot is that I know that that wouldn't work for me. I'm definitely all or nothing. I'm either completely sober or I'm doing everything. And I would drink again if I if I smoked pot. And excuse me, I don't I don't think it's wrong for people to be California sober or or not be sober. It's everyone's that's everyone's own business. But um I I it wouldn't work for me. Um and I wouldn't be able, I was an extremely low-functioning alcoholic. I had the easiest job you could have as an alcoholic the last year of my drinking, which was a um club comic, a road comic. You're allowed to drink in comedy clubs when you're working there. You get free drinks at a lot of them. Comics bring their drink on stage. Um, the staff likes to drink with comedians after the show. Totally an allow, and you don't have to be there until like seven at night. Couldn't couldn't hack it, got fired from three clubs because I drank too much. Com and this is compared to other other alcoholic comedians. Anyway, that's enough on on that, on why why I don't drink and why I I do love not being an AA, but I don't have any delusions that I could ever drink again, and I'm glad I don't want to. Okay. Um someone said one of their best friends has a toxic toxic boyfriend who hates them, and they barely hang out anymore. And they said, How do I nonchalantly back away from this friendship or fade into the background of her life without making a huge scene? Um I mean, I think not to be obnoxious, but I think the answer lies within the question, which is um you just fade into the background. Um I mean if you're barely hanging out, here's here's what I'm gonna read into this or not read into it. I'm gonna tell you my experience with this kind of thing. I want them, I want them to notice that I'm you know piecing out of the relationship so that they go, wait, no, come back and try to fix it. If that isn't what you want to do, the fact that you barely hang out as it is, although you say it's one of your best friends, so the I think that it's maybe possible that you don't want to back away or fade into the background. If it's one of your best friends, I think it's possible that you want her to notice and care enough to choose your good friendship over her bad boyfriend, especially if he hates you. I do want to say my experience with with um women friends, I haven't had this hasn't happened a lot, but it has happened. Women friends who um claim to be really close friend and then date someone who's really not nice to me and doesn't like me, and they their loyalty is with him. My experience was that my the best thing for me would be to let go of the friendship and and to do it in the way that you want to do it, which is to just back away or fade out rather than angrily confronting them. Um, because that's my inclination when my feelings are hurt, is to want to confront someone and be like, and have them go, wait, no, I'm sorry. And most of the time they don't do that. Because if they if it mattered to them, they wouldn't choose someone who's mean to you in the first place. I don't know if that's helpful. Um, I'll respond to you directly in the email. And if you if that if this wasn't helpful and you want to ask me to say something more helpful and how that would what would help, I'll I'll definitely try to do that. Um okay, uh and this one is about um this one says uh I'd like to see or it might be interesting to hear about any parts of your childhood you would like to share. Um like that you um went to see Prince the Purple Purple Rain Tour, Prince's Purple Rain Tour, I saw at the LA Forum in 1985, I think it was. Um Okay Wait Days oh, like oh okay she also asks about um I think I'm not sure if it's a she, but they also ask about um tales of days gone by in a pop culture way like the Delamo Mall with its two McDonald's. Um okay. Um I said oof because they said all their neighbors ended up being MAGA, which is a bummer. Um a lot of the kids I went to high school with are MAGA and and some of the people in my old AA group too, and it's a bummer, but um so going to see the Purple Rain tour at the forum, Sheila E opened for Prince. When Prince came on Prince in the Revolution came on stage. I have never been that excited in my entire life. I I don't think even since, I don't think anything more exciting has ever happened. And make way for a gross brag because some other exciting things have happened and they didn't top this night at the forum. And I again, these are really gross brags. Um I won um, I've won two stand-up comedy contests. One was the Austin's funniest person in the year 2000, and one was the Comedy Central Laugh Riots in 2002. Very exciting, especially the Comedy Central one because I won money. And um, and I got and because of it, I got to go to the Montreal Comedy Festival New Faces, and I got to be on Premium Blend, um, which was a stand-up show on Comedy Central. Um, I got to do that same year, um, two weeks before that, I got to do stand-up on late night with Conan O'Brien, um, which was super exciting. Um, I got to do stand-up on late night with Craig Ferguson in 2005, which was super exciting. Um, I got to do a half-hour stand-up special for Comedy Central in 2016. And then every single acting job I've had, super exciting. Not one of them have I felt the elation and excitement and like, oh my God, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened in the entire history of the world. That's how I felt seeing Prince in the Revolution. And it was a perfect show. Like he delivered. The expectations of the crowd were through the roof, and he over-delivered. Um, it was, I I'll never, I'll never top it. Having said that, as I just have to say this, it wasn't the same on an excitement level, but I would trade that and everything else I just mentioned for the time that I got to spend with my niece and nephew when they were little, and today to this day. So, but that that being with a baby is a different kind of, and little kids bonding with them is a different kind of euphoria. It's not a it's not thrilling. That's the thing about Prince, is it's fucking thrilling anyway. But it's like um, I would trade everything, almost almost every single good thing in my life. If I had to, if it was like you can keep the experience of being with these babies um and still in their the relationships we have today, or you can have all this other stuff, I would pick them. And aren't I a saint for saying that? And don't I deserve a parade? Okay. Um the Delamo Mall, I did mean all of it, but I just realized it's quite corny. Um the Delamo Mall um was fun as a teenager, as a young teenager before um puberty hit me like a truck and ruined my life permanently. Um before that it was fun to run around with other kids at the mall and just we mainly we would just go to a movie at the theater there. There also used to be a place in Torrance called the Old Town Mall, and that was the best place. Unfortunately, I think it was also a dangerous place because it ended up closing down. But in the 70s, um, as I've said before, the parenting style was go on and get out into the world, and we wish you the best. We sincerely wish you the best as your parents. What happens in the world of kids mostly is not our business. If you are alive when you get home, and if you get home when we told you to get home, uh sorry, I swallowed wrong and thought I was gonna start coughing. Um, good luck to you. So they would drop us off probably when we were like eight at Old Town Mall, and we would have a little money because there was a move we'd have money to go to the movie theater, but we would also get to spend a little time walking around the mall, and there was a carousel you could ride in the middle of it. An indoor ride to me was the height of excitement and fanciness as a child. And then there was a glass blowing shop, the whole place smelled like candy. It was great. Okay. Um, okay, here's a hello, Martha's forehead. I have a question. Question for you. How can I prepare myself for graduating and entering life of working? I've never had a real job, so I'm trying to postpone my graduation as long as possible, since I know I have to enter the jungle of job searching and nine to five lifestyle. And I'm scared shitless since there's not much support sources, and job search might be brutal and lonely. Also, greetings from Finland. Um God, I thought Finland was one of the countries that was better than here. I don't know. I can't believe you're dealing with a brutal and lonely job search there. I thought that was kind of a US. I thought we had cornered the market on that, and I'm sorry to hear that. Um how to prepare yourself. God, I I I'm let me let me um can I flag this? It would be so great if I knew how to use the technology I'd purchased. Um how do I Okay, I don't know how to Oh, here we go. Put it in the starred folder. I just put your email in the star folder. I'm gonna come back to it. I'm gonna look up Finland and what I can find out that I'm so I might be able to give you helpful advice. What my instinct is, is to say the most most important thing in life. This is my experience and opinion, and maybe not everyone maybe feels this way, but my experience and my opinion is that the thing that makes life good that's more important than everything else, is your connections with other people. And the the um like friendship is the thing that gets you through hard times and is also the thing you want to have when you're in good times. And um, so let me look up what's happening in Finland and why they are not making it more uh appealing to graduate um and how it could be helpful. But if you have friends, then you'll have people to commiserate with about the job search, and then when you get a job, you'll have people to. I don't know that that's helpful. Um, and it's all I mean, also it's important to get friends, you kind of also have to be kind and loving towards yourself and be in that way be your own friend. That's a complicated task if you aren't born into a family that is gives you that kind of support. And so sorry if sorry, I even brought it up. I hope your parents were better than mine. Let me put it that way. And my parents are both gone, I miss them terribly. They were really good people, very lovable people. And when I was an adult starting in my mid-30s, when I just started loving them as people and not wanting them to make up for the parenting they weren't able to provide, um, I had a better relationship with them. But I'm still in therapy to repair the damage they did. And it's okay to talk shit about people who are dead and don't know it. And frankly, if they're dead and they do know it, I know Dan and Bobby Kelly, those are their names. If they are hearing this from beyond the grave, they aren't gonna be mad at me. They know what they did, and they also know what a good relationship I had with each of them for years before they passed, and how much I love and miss them, and would honestly I might push somebody off a cliff if it brought them back. I don't I don't know if I could go through with it, but if some if like if Rumpel still skin approached me, popped out from behind a bush, and said, You can see your parents again if you travel to this place and push this person off a cliff. I would so badly want to be able to do it. And I don't want to kill anybody. Um, and maybe it'd be the kind of cliff that Cliff Wife fell off, which was mostly a grassy knoll. Um, and that would make it an easy decision. Which reminds me, real quick, slight tangent. Um we were um a few Christmases ago watching the claymation Chris TV Christmas special called The Year Without a Santa Claus. I think that's what it was called. And um there's a part where Chris Kringle goes undercover into the nearby town to try and to ask people, to ask kids, do you care about Christmas? Do you want a Christmas at all? Does anyone even care? And excuse me, I just gurgled. And um, and he's undercover, he's not wearing his Santa Claus outfit, and there's a kid walking home from school, and he steps out from behind a bush. And my niece, who was like 17, 16, or 17 at the time, we were all watching it together, on Christmas, she said that's not an appropriate way to approach a child. And she was right, and but it also I thought was really funny for a teenager to say that. Um, okay, and if you're not laughing right now and thinking you love my niece as much as I do, I I want you to go fuck yourself. That isn't nice, and I'm sorry, but I'm maybe not. I'm maybe not. Maybe I don't deserve the parade that I just suggested I should have a minute ago. Okay. Um this email is um Okay, they didn't ask a question, so I'm gonna go back to the uh oh what happened? Okay What am I okay that wasn't a question? Um oh okay. Can you talk about how you seem to hold the ability to bounce back after difficult situations? Um like how you talked about um working on euphoria while your antidepressants were not working. Um how did you regain your confidence after that sort of thing? We're I'm still working on that. Um and then they said I struggle so much with social anxiety, um, but I'm very involved with school and stuff and do a lot of things, so I don't know if people can tell. Um how do you learn how do you learn to recover and stay consistent with stuff like that? Um okay. So the truth is just I met a really gifted therapist when I was 23, and we have stayed in touch, although I have not been in therapy since you know, uh uninterrupted since then. I moved away, I stopped and started a lot, moved away, but no matter what, we kept in touch, and then when I would be back in California, we would be seeing each other and doing therapy again. She's still my therapist. I'm 58. Um, and some of the harder things have only recently been coming up in like I would say the past four years and four or five years. And um, but I think partly it's because I I wasn't because when I think when I would be approaching that deeper stuff is when I would tend to get scared and move away. But I wouldn't be thinking of it that way. What I would be thinking all the times I've moved to Austin, which I was honestly thinking of doing again recently because of the same kind of feelings of um, I gotta get out of here. Um that's how it would feel. I I moved, um, I mean, I've moved to Austin several times, and it was almost always a a very snap, like, I gotta get, you know, I'm gonna move. Or like when I went back to school in Davis, um, each time that I have interrupted therapy, it was just something would come over me and I would feel like I would be the thing that's gonna make me happy is to go somewhere else and do that. And then we would stay in touch and that helped. But honestly, for me, that she is when the times when I don't want to bounce back, I don't want to keep being consistent, I don't want to try anymore because it's painful. And I've I think a lot of people with um trauma and clinical depression and anxiety, I think it is, I mean, I know it's a it's a cyclical thing. I think it the older you get, the harder it is whenever you get back to the hardest place to believe that you're not just always gonna keep going back there. So it becomes harder to pep talk yourself out of it. But because I have, you know, I can't the things that keep me from uh ending it all. I I'm sorry to say that. I don't teenagers listen to this and I don't bring that subject up lightly. I can't, I couldn't do that to my therapist or my niece and nephew, or my pets. Like those are the the bottom lines of when the clinical depression tells me I can't do this anymore, it's too hard, I can't stay consistent, it's not getting better, whatever it's telling me. Um, I just can't, it's like, well, I'm I'm stuck with it and I have to figure out a way through it because I can't abandon the people that I love. I can't hurt them in that way. Because the thing about when people do go through with that kind of thing, I've known I have several people in my life who have experienced that kind of loss, and everybody left behind blames themselves. And it's heartbreaking because it isn't anyone's fault when someone does that. It's a it's an illness like like a like if someone has cancer. Um so if you have the ability to see a therapist, um I would say the main thing to look for in a therapist in order for it to be helpful is someone who is compassionate and who you feel understood by, who you feel like when you talk about what's going on, you feel like they understand it and they don't um reframe it in a way that isn't true for you or blame you for it, where they have compassion and empathy to me is what's really helpful. Um and also, I'm not sure how old you are, I can't tell from this. Um, but you do, I think, say that you're in school and that you're involved in school, and that you um you're doing a lot of stuff, but when when you meet new people, you get really nervous and get in your head about it. And I shouldn't have even gone off on the tangent I just went off on, because the truth is when you're in school and when you're a teen, I'm assuming a teenager or in college, I I think everyone is nervous when they meet new people, especially at that age. If you think about it like adolescence and young adulthood in your early 20s, you're going from the consciousness of a child to the consciousness of an adult. And that adolescence, which really does kind of continue into your college years, that's like the um, that's like the travel route that you're on. And that's not a good analogy, but but it is the bridge between childhood and adulthood and all the stuff that's happening inside of you, a ton of physical changes are happening. Your brain, your body's growing, your hormones. I know people talk about hormones all the time and mostly kind of joke about it, but it really is a big deal to have your body being changed from the inside by chemicals changing. Your brain is changing, and your perception of the world, if you go from the way kids' sense of humor is quite literal, and then there's a point in adolescence when everybody starts understanding like sarcasm and irony, which is super fun, but just even that is like that's a monumental change in how you experience the world. And so with all that shit going on, everybody's gonna get nervous when they're meeting new people because you're still figuring out, well, wait, who, who am I? You know, when you're a kid before you hit puberty, you do have some. I don't know if it's that you have a sense of yourself, but you go through the world looking outward. It's all about what do these experiences feel like? Do I am I enjoying them? Are they what I want? And am I am I doing what I'm, you know, what am I doing what I'm being told to do by adults? Am I doing what am I fitting in with the other kids in the in the neighborhood or at school? But your your whole outlook is outward. It's your you're experiencing life in a way of what are the do I enjoy this activity? What can my body do? Can it do, can I do a cartwheel or whatever? You know what I'm talking about. I'm rambling. Um when you hit adolescence, it just fucking flips inward, and that's why we get in our heads and get nervous and social anxiety. But um just know that everyone else feels that way. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with you. It doesn't mean that you shouldn't be confident, and the fact that you are out there doing a bunch of stuff in school is really cool and more than a lot of people have the ability to do. So um, but write back if you have any, if I didn't answer it well enough. If my answer wasn't helpful, please write back and tell me if you want to hear something more helpful. And everybody disregard the stuff I said about ending it all. Why bring that up? Nobody asked about that. Okay. Um someone uh asked if I would want to talk about my experiences that caused the CPTSD that I have. I not on no. But I will let me put your uh let me put your email in the oh I messed it up. Well, and I that's the thing about I didn't mean to and then I just help. Get out of here. Um what in the I don't know what I just did here, but I Okay. Sorry. The thing about an iPad is if you tap the wrong thing, you can't figure out how to get back to the right thing. Um I don't know how to what do I What? Well, I did it a minute ago and I can't do it now. I'll I'd forgot how I moved it into the star folder. Guys, I'm sorry. I c I will what I want to say is um your first name is Amanda. I will answer your email directly, but not on the podcast, even though I would like to be helpful to other people who have experien who have CPTSD. Um it's kind of too intense for a podcast. I'm sorry. Um Okay, we've got oh okay. Um I noticed on many of your reels and TikToks, people constantly refer to you as Lori or treat you like a character, even when you're generally just talking um sorry, I have to burp. Um does it ever get frustrating to be closely associated with a specific role um when you're literally literally just being yourself? Is it tough to build your own audience with people may who mainly see you through the lens of euphoria? Um I don't feel frustrated by being associated with Lori from Euphoria. I feel like that is one of the most fortunate things that has happened to me. And partly because of the getting to have that job, it was a great job, and it provided me with a couple years of financial security, which is a huge fucking deal in this industry. Um, and they treated me great, and I love them a lot. Um, I had a a great time working with Sam Levinson and Ashley Levinson and all the actors and the crew. Um, but the other thing that I feel fortunate about Lori is that it's prime it's a lot of Gen Z are fans of that show and fans of Lori, and they are could not be a nicer um demographic of people to connect with. It just on the internet and any time that any Gen Z fan of Euphoria has approached me in person, the loveliest interactions, it's never weird or uncomfortable. It's just a kind young person saying, Were you Lori on Euphoria? And I say yes, and then they ask if they can get a selfie and they say something nice and then they walk away. And it's um, that's just such an infusion of sweetness in my life that I didn't ex ever expect to experience, and I love it. So it when they mention Lori online or say hello, Rue, or you owe me money, I just I just feel like lucky, honestly, not to be corny. That's corny as shit. Uh, but it is also true. Um, but is it tough to build your own audience? In the sense of, is it tough to build a big enough audience for a podcast to not have to worry about getting acting jobs? That is really tough. And I have several friends who are on big podcast networks who had who have told me it's taken like a year for them to even start to get traction, whatever. I don't know if by that they meant make a profit or they just meant have the hope of making a profit. I don't know. But um it is hard for I think everybody to build their own audience. Um, but hard in the sense of like when you want something that that you're not getting, uh not hard like when I worked at um Subway sandwiches um or Marie Calendars. Subway wasn't actually hard. When I was a waitress at Marie Calendars, that was unpleasant. Um I've had other hard jobs like domino although I like Domino's delivery. Okay. So um I hope that answers the question and it wasn't too corny. Um this person is asking if I they said. I would love to hear Martha's stream of cons. They think they're they think someone else answers my email. Um, I was first aware of Martha from Baskets. Uh Louie was incredible. I would love to hear Martha's stream of stream of consciousness about working on the show. Anything about her experiences would be a treat to hear. Um, I will say uh one of my most favorite magical times I had on Baskets was, I think it was season one. And right, was it season one? We did um Chip and my character, Zach's character and my character, attend a rave looking for his twin brothers who are DJs. I think that's why we went. But they they set up this fake rave, and we were out in the hills and the desert, and it was at night, like we'd been shooting something else during the day, and then um when it got dusk and started to get dark, they had this whole fucking parking lot set up as a rave, and all these background actors dressed and dancing and have kit holding the little lights that people some handheld lights that people have at Raves, music. It was so fun. Um, I felt like that was season one, and that was my first acting job, and I just felt like this is the most magical thing in the world to just uh be getting to enter a fake rave because it felt and looked real, but I would never go to a rave in real life because they didn't even s become a thing until I was past the age of going to raves, and so I got to go to one and it was super fun. Um and that that same I think week of shooting was when we um when we had uh I think Zach and me and uh Eddie uh we were uh the scene where we're camping and my character character gets bitten by a snake. It was really fun to shoot the nighttime scene of us sitting around the campfire, and then the snake was this little baby guy. He was a garter snake, so they don't they're harmless. And this little guy did not want to bite anybody, and he they didn't really need him to bite, but they needed a shot of him looking mad because it's supposed to be like um lifting a napkin, and no, that's not right. It's supposed to just be a close-up of him look raised up like he's about to strike. And the way they did it was they irritated his handler irritated him by putting a napkin over him, and then he would, you could see him getting irritated under the napkin. He would take it off, they'd roll action. By the time they started shooting the snake, he had already calmed down. He would, they would spend, they had to do it over and over because his handler was like, let's get him riled up for the shot. He has to look angry, and he'd the little harmless garter snake guy would go, Alright, I'm gonna I'm gonna get somebody's ass. And they'd lift the napkin and he'd go, Oh, hey guys, I'm not I'm not mad anymore. And he'd calm down, they'd have to do it again. Um, that was really fun, and when we were done, I got to hold him, and he was really soft and not scaly or anything, just really soft and really cute. And then the coyote that we had for the um the scene where we um drive in the car with a coyote and then take him back into the wild. It was a real, it was a half dog, half coyote. I think her name was Jill. I don't know how I could be remembering that because we shot it in 2015, which was 11 years ago, but um she also was too sweet to act aggravated, and they needed a scene of her snarling at Chip, and they had to put peanut butter on her teeth to get her to lift her lips and look mad because she simply refused to get angry at anybody. Those were super fun, and we also shot uh season three, I think. Seasons. Yeah, I think it was season two or three. I can't remember. I think it was season three we shot um where Eddie is out uh run like goes and shacks up with a lady named Dottie. And Chip and Martha go find him. And we shot at that house out in um kind of near Lancaster or near Palmdale. And um, that's the same house that ended up being Lori's house on Euphoria season three. So when we the first time we went to Lori's house, when I walked in, I was like, this feels really familiar. And the more we were in there, the more I was like, wait, and then I there were a couple people working on it on Euphoria who had worked on baskets, and I went up to them and said, Hey, is this where we shot that Dottie's house? And they said, Yes, that was exciting. I'll try to periodically think of more fun stories from baskets, which which is assuming you thought those stories were fun. If you didn't I'm s I'm sorry. Um this one says, How does your brain work? Um And they left uh their phone number. Oh they're oh they're in the military. Um That's what that means. Okay. They left their cell phone and then their primary email and their military email. Um so I'm not gonna say their name. But um I don't know. It doesn't it doesn't work great. Uh is does that help? But I wanna say thank you for writing and um get out of the military if you can. I don't want you to go to war. I don't want you to get hurt. Um I've had friends in the military and I'm scared of uh people getting hurt. And and included in that is the fact that sometimes our military harms other people, and that is also you getting hurt if you harm other people. So please get out of the military. Um but thank you for writing and and um um I'll be keeping a good thought for your safety. Um okay, uh burning questions from a Carol fan. On the first episode, you talked about a bunch of previous roles with a few glaring omissions. One was Bethany from the Great North, and uh one was uh Carol and the End of the World. And um, were you saving any discussions of Carol for a future episode? Um, and are there any pieces of you that made it into Carol? What was the production like? Um any fond anecdotes? So um, oh, and then they did hashtag death by banana bread. Um so I loved, I'll just quickly say I loved being Bethany on the Great North working with um the Maliano sisters, Wendy and Lizzie, who I'm friends with in real life, I just fucking love them. I loved that show. It was so fun to record with them and um just like as far as I'm concerned, free money. Um, and I love that show, and I I loved getting to do it, and it was always fun. Um, and because of one time recording, I got to meet Jenny Slate, and I just think she's amazing. Um with Carol, so Dan Guterman is the creator of that show, and he emailed me in 2019, I think, and said, Um, hey, I have this. We followed each other on Twitter. This is back before it became the shithole that it is. And he said, Hey, I wanted to write an animated show with you as the lead. Would you be interested? And I was like, Are you kidding? Where do I sign? Um, and then he just kept sending me stuff about it, and the more the farther along it got, the more I was blown away. And um, he started sending me artwork and then scripts, and then we did record during the pandemic, and um so it would be like um wearing a mask into the recording studio, and then going into the room where you record, being in there alone, taking the mask off, other people are are blocked off in the engineering booth, and um it was so fun. Uh, I loved, I love Dan Gudeman's writing. I just think he is uh brilliant and really funny and and found created something with so much sweetness and uh melancholy and but also like joy and humor. I just love it so much. Um I am really inhibited and with animation voiceover stuff, people really need you to cut loose because you can't. I don't think it trans I don't think it translates the same in voiceover to be low-key or deadpan. I mean, and it to an extent it does, but like like on the Great North, sometimes we had to sing, sometimes there was screaming, and on Carol, there was definitely times where I had to like yell or scream. There was one day where they needed laughter, which is to make fake laughter sound real is harder even than crying on command. And I can't do either one, and so I told them that. What if you is there anything we could do that you would make you laugh naturally, and then we can just record that while that's happening? And this is, I'm not proud of this, but it is what works. Going on YouTube or at the time Twitter and looking for videos of people tripping and slipping and sliding around and falling, but not getting hurt. Um I I I can't not laugh at that stuff. So to get all of the anytime Carol is laughing in that series, it's because I was looking at a video of somebody tripping and slipping on ice, uh the famous one of the lady stomping grapes and then falling out. Um, people sliding downstairs. Um, I love all of it. People dancing and crashing into tables. I love all of it. I and in my defense of sounding like a sociopath, I love I laugh really hard when I fall down. I tripped down my back steps one time in when I lived in Austin, like in like 2001. Was compl was was uh still drinking but not drunk when this happened. This was during the day. Hadn't started drinking at because I drank at night. Went out the back door to do something, or let a cat out or something, tripped. There was an out-of-commission refrigerator right next to the back steps, and as I began to fall, it flashed through my head, I'll be okay as long as I don't hit the refrigerator. And I, with my forehead smacked right into the refrigerator, it hurt, it was a little scary, and when I got up, I could not, I was doubled over. I was laughing so hard because I was picturing what that muscle looked like if someone had seen it. And I wish there was a way to you could see your own falls, not just watch other people tripping and falling. But if I could if I had a genie in a bottle, I'd say show me video of every time I've ever tripped and fallen because I it's my favorite thing. Okay, I hope that was um helpful for uh talking about Carol. Um Okay, sorry, I'm just seeing if there's a oop, nope. Um Okay, I wanna say um Brianna volunteered to make a a subreddit for the podcast. And um I haven't written back and I should have um because before I and thank you so much, Brianna. I really appreciate it. Before I wrote back to you, um Joel wrote and said he created a subreddit for Forehead Corner. Um, and sent me the link and I'll send it to you. I appreciate both of you so much. Um okay, let me see what else we what do we have here. Um someone also uh Melinda suggested a uh chat on um Patreon and I'll I'll do that. Um, someone's asking about oh, someone uh Chris asking about baskets. Their favorite scene is when I'm in the bathroom trying to get up the courage to sell a Costco membership to Mrs. Baskets and she breaks down the bathroom door. Um, and they want to know anything about behind the scenes. That's their favorite scene. Um, from what what I remember, um, that was a chaotic all of us were borderline hysterical because Louis Anderson was so fucking funny breaking that door and and pretending to be panicked about my character being in there. Um, we all just kept laughing and breaking during the scene because Louis was so funny and it was such a goofy scene to begin with. Um, so I just remember that as being a super fun day and um and laughing. And then Zach, who loved to tease me like an older brother, he did I he improvised that after Mrs. Baskets breaks the door in the into the bathroom and I come out, that chip goes up and says, Turn on the fan, Martha, as if I had destroyed the bathroom. And I was like, I can you please don't I mean I know I spent most of last week talking about the explosive diarrhea that's sweeping the nation, but um I don't want to be associated with that, but it was really funny. Also, Zach loved to do pranks, but they weren't like George Clooney pranks where they would sort of they weren't the kind of pranks that made anyone feel bad. Zach's uh first prank was he paid for a coffee truck for the casting crew to come to the set, and he put a sign next to it that said, To the best crew in the world, courtesy of your friend Martha Kelly, because he knew it would embarrass me to have people thinking that I wanted them to thank me for getting them a coffee truck that I also hadn't gotten. Um that was one of his pranks at the rap party of season one. I'll just I think we're I'm almost out of time, but I do want to tell this one thing because it was very, this is a Zach prank. So at one one day on set, season one, I thought our eight, our our first AD, Sally Sue, had said it was her birthday, and I was like, oh, happy birthday. And she said, No, no, I was saying, how was your day? Something like that, where we misunderstood each other. And Zach overheard, and he understood that we had misunderstood each other, but also decided to make it a joke by pretending to think it was my birthday and yelling, Happy Birthday, Martha, and then beginning to sing the happy birthday song and encouraging everyone to sing happy birthday to me, knowing it would embarrass me, which it did, but I was laughing. Like that was his kind of prank to get everybody on the cast and crew to sing happy birthday to me when it wasn't my birthday, and he knew it. And then at the rap party, he got he brought out a cake with my picture on it that said happy birthday and got everyone to sing happy birthday. Again, it was not my birthday. He just did it because he knew it would embarrass me, but not in a um way that made me feel bad. It was fun and funny. It just made me turn red. I can't say enough good about Zach Galfinakis. Um okay, I thought I would talk about other stuff, but we are. I'm sorry, I'm trying to get my gum out of my oh no. Oh god. I don't know. I can't open my phone because I created a passcode. Uh oh no. Well, gang, um, this is a fun note to end on. I am I am just the uh I'm truly um it says emergency. I don't want to hit that in case it dials 911, but um listen. Oh wait, maybe my um, maybe my if my okay, if I can get my iPad to sync with my phone, then I can look in my notes because that's where I put the passcode. Gang, you want to talk about a boomer moment. And I'm not a boomer, I'm Gen X. Anyway, I hope that people enjoyed this episode. As always, I'm so sorry if you didn't. Um if you wanna send me an email about the podcast, it's foreheadcornerpod at gmail.com. Um, if you want to join the Patreon, God love you. You're a saint. Every single person who's subscribed to Patreon, I owe you my life. And um when once I once I figure out how to break into my own phone, the sky's the limit. We're all going straight to the top. So thank you for listening andor watching. And um, I will uh sleep see you on the flip flap.

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