I'm Not Holding Back

Escape the Food Matrix with Amy Elizabeth

Lily Tallulah Season 1 Episode 3

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Join me with Raw Food Health Coach and my dear friend Amy Elizabeth, to talk about all things health and diet to master your energetic reality. 

This episode covers everything you need to know about raw food, veganism, food affecting your consciousness and energetic vibration and tapping out of the matrix. 

This one is a goodie! so have a listen. 

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SPEAKER_06

We've almost gone through a de evolution. We're de-evolved. We're almost de-evolved. A lot of what we're taught is completely used. So we really need to look towards what children do, what young children do under the age of seven.

SPEAKER_03

That's how quickly food comes it comes through me that people are like, you do only we're like, Yeah. I only win. Welcome to I only weighed, guys. Bye, Lily Talula. I'm not holding back. Hello everyone. Welcome to I'm Not Holding Back. This is my podcast where I literally do not hold back. I'm here to talk about all things consciousness, all things spiritual awakenings, all things mastering your reality because you do not need to live in a crappy, dysfunctional state. It does not need to happen. You don't need to have a bad life. Life is fucking awesome. Excuse my French. Today I have a really, oh I'm kind of nervous. I have a really exciting guest today who is my friend. Her name is Amy Elizabeth, and she is from Plantaphilly Amy, an amazing Instagram. I came across Amy, I don't know, maybe like six months ago or so. We've both been on, I'd say, a bit of a like radical transformation with food and diet. And uh and yeah, and I just really want to talk to her today because she's also someone who is a raw vegan like myself. Um, first of all, we'll probably explain what a raw vegan we are. Um but but yeah, I'm really keen to talk to her today just about like how she found this diet, what kind of transformation she's gone through, how it's affected her mental health, her state, and how she feels that it is it has helped transform her reality by taking on this diet. Because I don't know, Amy, if you would agree, but like do you think that what you eat is an important factor in how you show up in the world?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it is so important, and that phrase, you are what you eat, is so, so true. Yeah. Because the food that you consume affects everything. It affects the way that you think, it affects the way that you physically feel in your body, it affects your mental health, it affects the way that you show up, it affects your energy, and all of that has such a flow-on effect into how you show up in the rest of your life. As in, if you don't physically feel well, how are you meant to have the mental clarity? How are you meant to show up for others in your life? To have the energy, to have the vitality, to have the um the space to give from a place of overflow. If you don't physically feel well, you feel so depleted. Yeah. You you can't be there for your family, you can't be there for your partner, you can't um, you don't have the clarity that you should have um at your job or your work or whatever you need to do to provide for people or to your business or whatever it is in life, if you don't physically feel well, you can't, you're not at your highest potential. You're not operating at your highest potential. Yeah. And and it is it is a it's really sad. Yeah. It's really sad. And to think that so many people can achieve so much greatness and they're operating down here when they could be operating down here just because of what they put in their mouth.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's so true. I mean, I so for those who who are watching, and you've possibly found my channel because I talk about consciousness and I talk about awakenings and I talk about spirituality. Um, so just a quick background background on me, about three years ago, I was at the peak of being really sick in my body. I felt so terrible. I felt really shit. And even though I'd done all this self-mastery work with, you know, meditation and mindfulness and understanding how you know my thoughts create my reality, all of this stuff. I feel like I'd really, really looked into that. I still was experiencing these terrible health symptoms, and I tried everything under the sun, and then one day I came across someone who told me about the power of fruit and uh the power of a raw vegan diet. So, just to give a clear thing, a raw vegan diet is someone who like does not cook their food. We don't cook our food, which most people would think is crazy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I feel like we should also explain why why we don't cook our food.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, we'll go into yes, we're gonna explain all of this, but it's someone who essentially eats natural food in its most natural, unprocessed form. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06

It it's in its 100% real true form. Yeah. There's no processing involved, there's there's nothing. It's literally just you pick the fruit or you eat the food, and that's it. There's there's no process, there's no frying, there's no baking, no, no, there's no, it's just it's just you you get exactly what it is from this food source directly.

SPEAKER_03

You don't you don't need to add oils, we don't add all this random stuff. And I mean, a lot of people view this diet as being hella extreme. And when I first came onto this diet, I was like, I feel like this is really extreme, but the feeling you get on by eating these foods, and I just want to express to you guys like fruit, especially is the highest vibrational food. It is like literally sunlight in form. It's so incredible. And so if you're trying to master your universe, right, what you're inputting is actually affecting you because it affects your vibration. Like, let's pretend for a minute that we're in a holographic reality, right? And you're playing Fortnite or like you're playing, I don't know, like Minecraft. And that's your life, right? Like we're in a video game, and we were talking about this last night. Like some things that you consume, whether it be food or like, I don't know, media or whatever, some are like plus a thousand, some are minus a thousand, some are everything is affecting your energetic state all the frickin' time. Like what you intake, and food, I think, is something that a lot of spiritual communities overlook. There's not this, like, you know, um, understanding, and I'm not saying everyone needs to go and do this, like this is, you know, a personal journey and everyone's on their own path. But I just want to share, like, bring Amy on because we've both had a very similar experience around eating this way, and we've met so many people that have like completely transformed their health and life through eating this way. It's been insane. But anyway, Amy, yeah, you said why don't we cook our food? I I want to hear from you now. Like, why do we not cook our food? Like, why is this a thing? Why are we so crazy? Why do we do this?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, well, I mean, if you think about it, there's no other animal in nature that cooks its food. Humans are the only species on the planet that actually cooks their food. And it's pretty wild to think about because it's so it's been so normalized that we just go to the grocery store and we we have a kitchen that's decked out with an oven and we fry our food, we cook it in an air fryer, we put it in the oven, we put it in the microwave. You know, we are we are just born into this way of life through our parents, through their parents, the generations before us, that you know, cooking our food is just always seen as something that's normal. And also, if you take it back even further to you know, meat and you know, um cooking meat with fire, and fire being you know the the pivotal moment for humans of like discovering fire, and that's when we became evolved and became this you know enlightened species, but really the cooking process destroys most of the vitamins and minerals in food. The nutrients, the nutrients, yes, that's right, and same with the enzymes. The enzymes are are like fully destroyed with heat because enzymes are heat sensitive, so when that cooking process happens, uh it destroys most of the life force in food. Yeah. So essentially cooked food is eating energetically dead food, yeah. And it's really hard for people to even see food as energy, to see food as an energy source for the body, or to see to think of to think of food as my food is dead. You know, it's just a very strange concept for people to wrap their head around. But essentially, when we eat foods that are raw foods that are in that are uncooked, that are that are in their unprocessed form, or we eat fruits, we are eating condensed sunlight. Yeah. We and we are eating foods that have their full nutritional profile intact. They have all of the enzymes, and enzymes are what allows us to help break down our food. So when we are eating food that's depleted in enzymes, our body has to work overtime to produce those extra enzymes to help us break down food. So when we are eating raw, when we're eating fruit, our bodies are just that that burden is taken off our our body. We don't we don't have to overextend our energy. And this overextension of energy is what is why people are so fatigued, why they're so tired. And you know it's not everything because obviously eating these energetically dead foods, these really heavy, dense foods that are not in alignment with our with our biology, obviously that is gonna create density in the body, it's gonna create a sluggishness, it's gonna create a lot of fatigue because digestion takes up like 80% of our energy. So digestion is we wanna like have our digestion as simple as possible, and fruit is so easy to digest. It literally digests in like what if you eat a mono meal of like watermelon, that's like over in like 15 minutes or less in the body. It just it just goes it just passes through absolutely. There's no obstructions, there's no heavy digestive burden, and that's why we feel this this crazy energy on fruit because uh we have all this free energy that has not been zapped by the digestive process, and that is why people feel so tired when they eat a big heavy meal. Yeah. Why people after Christmas, Christmas lunch or whatever, or steak and burger with fries, it's like you just feel like you know, your stomach is so bloated, you're so tired, you just feel so drained and sluggish. Like, you don't feel like going out for a walk after or getting up and going for a run or doing something creative or a project, like you just want to sleep or like nap. And that's not normal. Like, we should always have like our energy should always be flowing, we should always feel like high vibration, or we should always have an overflow of energy happening, and that is what happens on raw foods, and you and you notice it, you you see other raw vegans and you recognize that energy in them, you can see that spark in their eyes, you can see the lightness in the way that they move their body, like they're not bogged down by constipation and feeling tired and drained, like they're like expressive and like they have energy and they just want to flow and move, and like there's just something different going on.

SPEAKER_03

There is seriously, so um when I first found out about fruit, I was so fucking skeptical. Like, I just could not believe it. Actually, initially, when I first found out about fruit, I didn't even listen to it. I was like, that sounds crazy, and I blocked my ears, and I I went, I ended up going a whole year where I just like did not think about it, and I just went back to trying like keto and high protein and a lot of meat, and I got so sick in that year to the point where I was like, okay, I actually am willing to try anything, and um, and yeah, I it was sort of like a a universe like giving me the answer kind of thing because I remember sort of feeling really hopeless one day and crying and being like, Why am I so sick? There must be an answer. And then I looked on my Instagram shortly after, and Dr. Robert Morse, who is like a really big person in this fruit scene, he came up on my page and I was like, Oh, the fruit thing, that's like the only thing I haven't tried. Um, okay, maybe I'll try that. And then another diet. I was like, okay, final uh anyway. So I um I got in touch with someone in Perth who has worked under Dr. Robert Morse, and um I just spoke to him and I literally asked him every question under the sun about it. Like, what's the deal with protein? What's the deal with sugar? And we can kind of loosely go into this if if you guys have never heard about this. Some of like I'd love for Amy to explain um her view on protein, her view on the sugar and fruit, because I had a lot of fear around that when I first found out about this diet. But Ben, this guy in Perth, he explained it to me so brilliantly that I was like, oh gosh, I need to try this. And so I went on fruit for 10 days, and literally my life transformed. It was almost like a spiritual transformation as well. And I want to go into like spirituality and all of that stuff with this diet. Um, but yeah, maybe Amy, like you could do us a favor and just explain to the people who were like, wait, what about protein? Like, what's the deal with sugar? Like, let's let's let's um debunk this really quickly.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I mean, for sure. Like the sugar thing is such it's probably one of the biggest fears that people have coming into this diet and lifestyle. Um we have been taught to majorly fear sugar, and this is so that people are basically staying away from the fruit diet, yeah, ultimately, because there is so much fear-mongering happening, and really when we think about it, fruit is the most healing food there is on the planet. It is it is designed by God, it is literally perfect. And the thing about the fruit sugar is that people don't understand that fruit comes packaged as a whole thing, so it has fruit sugar, which is completely different to processed, highly refined white sugar that you find in pastries, cereals, sweets, desserts, all of that kind of stuff. It's completely different. And the the thing with fruit is that fruit is coming as a whole package with fiber, with water, with nutrients, with minerals, with enzymes. It's all one big thing that's working together. And this is what our body, and our body thrives on sugar. It literally runs on sugar, it doesn't run on fat, it doesn't run on protein. And also, if we think about it, I love this because this is this is a thing that kind of flows into the protein thing, but um mother's breast milk is only one percent protein. This is a crazy one, yeah. So when we think about it, in the time when a baby is in its most uh rapid growth phase, mother's milk is only one percent protein. If protein was where we need to put our focus, then mother's milk would be like 98% protein.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But it's not, it's one of the lowest, it's the least important sugar is our fuel source. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it's not quite refined sugar, like no. I did trial for a moment there, you know, you get these people who are like, oh, you the sugar's our diet, the sugar diet. I don't know if anyone's heard of that, but you supplement and you put sugar in your water and everything. That was terrible. I felt like I was on literal drugs. My energy was terrible. Yeah, um, and I think, yeah, the thing with fruit that's so brilliant, it's a fully packaged formed food. Like it's as you said, it's got um fiber in it, it's got, it's even got fat content in it. It's got the protein because it has protein.

SPEAKER_06

Um built of amino acids. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Protein is the is the is the complex chain of amino acids. Yeah. So when we fo when we take our focus away from the word protein and we focus on the word amino acids, when we look towards fruits and vegetables, they are abundant in amino acids.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So it's it's crazy. Yeah, we we I read this thing the other day, um, because I'm like studying at the moment all this stuff, and it's like um people are more likely to have a fibre deficiency than to ever have a protein deficiency. 100%.

SPEAKER_06

There is no recorded cases of anyone having a protein deficiency. It's like wild.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's become this really crazy crazed thing in culture where I look at advertisements all the time and it's like cereal that now has protein in it, and you're like, why? It's just protein water. It's like, what is protein and water? But also, yeah, that's definitely it. Like when um when I was on a high protein diet, I had literally no energy. Like I was dead to the world. I was suffering from chronic chronic fatigue, I could not think, I was so scattered. Also, um, I mean, meat, we can even get into the energetics of meat, but I was really anxious when I was eating meat because I felt like I was, I mean, absorbing all the pain of this animal and the suffering and the fear that this animal had experienced. Which, if you're a spiritually conscious person and you're on a consciousness path, you start to wake up to this stuff. Like you start to be like, whoa, that's interesting. When I eat that animal, like that hurts my body. I don't feel good. And what am I taking on energetically?

SPEAKER_06

That exactly, that pain, that trauma, that abuse, that suffering, like all of that is, and the thing with we've got to remember that energy is always only transferred, it's never destroyed. So when you think about the energy that was in that animal, all of the stress hormones that flooded through that animal's body right before it was gonna be slaughtered, you think about that, that fear, that energy, that trauma, all of that horrible, tense, stressful, um, high cortisol energy, that got transferred to you in your body when you ate that. Because energy can't be destroyed, it can only be transferred.

SPEAKER_03

It's so true. Yeah, and like, so I was still sort of dappling with meat up until even about six months ago because I was getting my head around it. I was like, what, like, is it true? Like, is this really affecting me? And the last time I had meat, I really felt it emotionally, like it was the a major turning point for me, and that's when I watched um Earthlings, which is a documentary. If you guys want to see what is actually going on in these slaughterhouses, what is actually going on in farms, what is actually going on, watch you said there's a documentary called Dominion. Yeah, there is.

SPEAKER_06

So there's Dominion, which I believe is free to watch. Yeah. So if you just go to like Dominion.com or there's there's something like that, um, you should be able to watch it for free. But I mean, it's very, it's very shocking. But if you are in a place where you are on the fence and you were like, you know, I just need that final push over the edge to make a decision to commit to veganism or to change, to move away from meat. Whether it doesn't have to necessarily be an overnight thing that you do, because sure that I mean that that can be hard for people. Um, but some people can just make the switch like that from what they see because they are just so so moved from what they see, they they they realize that they were not aware of what was truly going on behind the scenes because this whole industry is so secretive, you know, it's done in in always behind closed doors, away from people. Um, there's that saying about if slaughterhouses had glass windows, then 99% of people would go vegan overnight.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

So when you actually truly see what is going on, the abuse, the amount of suffering that these animals are going through, and especially when people, you know, have pets of their own, or they they are animal lovers and they realize that there is actually no difference between a dog, my my dog, and um this cow that's about to be slaughtered. Yeah, and you know, it's almost impossible not to cry when you watch these documentaries because you just feel it so deeply and you can feel the pain. And if you're already a conscious person and you already have um a sensitive nature to you, this stuff is just like it'll change your life. You wanna do it?

SPEAKER_03

It seriously does. Like Earthlings is such a good documentary. Oh my gosh. So I showed that to my mum, and my mom's been a massive man. Eater for like years. Like she just has always thought we need to eat meat, we need the protein, we need the calcium from milk. And I got her to watch Earthlings and I got her to watch Forks Over Knives, which goes into the health side of why we want to choose whole food plant-based. She literally dropped meat like overnight. She still eats a bit of fish here and there, but she literally dropped meat overnight. She has not touched red meat, chicken, none of that since. Like it was such a transformational movie. There is a moment in Earthlings that I still think about and it like it it's actually it's like burnt into your brain. Into my soul, this image of this animal. Oh my gosh. It was awful. Like if you want to cry, and sometimes it's good to have a good cry and like to watch something and be like, I need to cry, it will literally change your life. Like it it was so life-changing for me watching those things. Um, but yeah, Dominion's another one, and I think Earthlings is uh is uh narrated by Joaquin Phoenix, who's one of my favourite actors. That was also like a good reason to um to watch it.

SPEAKER_06

Sure, for sure. I watched What the Health as well. That doesn't really show I mean I can't really remember. It's been a while now since I've watched that. It was right at the start of my journey. Um, but What the Health is a great one. It kind of taps into more of like the pharmaceutical side, and you kind of get to see how you know there's that interrelation of diet and pharmacy and drugs and medicine, and about you know, it really just starts to open your eyes up, and if you're on this path of awakening, um it's just another great one that you can add to your list to just really start to question your reality, question what what is considered normal by society's standards. By society standards, yeah. But yeah, if you're if you are on this conscious path or if you are wanting to learn the truth, like I think there's a lot of people now that are just feeling like I'm tired of being lied to, I'm tired of the veil, I'm tired of the like BS, like I just want the truth. I I desire to know what is really going on in this reality. I want to know all of this crap that we've been told is normal. It's just like, yeah, some people aren't ready for it, but there are a lot of people that are starting to like get a little bit of a glimpse of different things, or they're feeling more drawn to a plant-based diet, or they're more open to a fruit-based diet, and maybe they haven't even heard of it, but they meet someone like you or me, and they're like, Wow, like I can see that there's something different about you. Like, tell me more about what you're eating, or yeah, I'm curious, I want to try your food. Like, you know, let's we get that both a lot.

SPEAKER_03

I feel we've talked about this where people are like, You have so much energy, like people will be like, You've got those things, you've got clear eyes, your skin is so clear.

SPEAKER_06

Where do you get that? What do you do? The other thing that happens all the time is age. Like we met each other, and we were both like you know, we were friends across like social media first. But um, when you actually meet this person in real life, it's like you get a whole sense of them as you know, this 3D person now, and you can feel their energy, you can see the light in their eyes, you can see the glow in their skin, you can see their youthfulness, and yeah, both of us thought we were both look like we're in our 20s.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I thought well, I thought Amy was like 20, 23. You're I don't know if you want to. I mean, you can share your age if you want. I'm 33 years young. I've started to say 30. I'm almost 30. Young, not old. No, yeah, that's the requirement. When you follow this lifestyle, you're like, I'm never calling myself old because yeah, this is really spells. What you are the spells.

SPEAKER_06

You are basically saying I am this, and you are also speaking age over yourself. You are saying if you say I am 34 years old, you are speaking aging over yourself.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you literally are, you're manifesting it into being. It's so true. Um, but but it is really interesting, like on a on a soul, because I'm okay, so my interest, and Amy knows this about me, and like if you start to follow my channel, you realize my interest is less in food and more in consciousness. Like, I'm very interested in um in in just awareness and consciousness and how we can up level and and master ourselves. And and yeah, I just think food is freaking game changer for my life at least. Like, complete game changer, guys. Like something to look into. But I'm not necessarily saying, like, oh, everyone needs to go and become a raw vegan right now, like everyone needs to go vegan, even. I have so much love for other people and their own individual journey. I really don't believe in like shaming anyone because everyone's just on their own path. Um, but yeah, but when you start to look into this and open your mind, it's like there's so much truth in it. Like biologically, you know, you get people say, okay, but we can eat any diet we want. Like, humans are very adaptable. And I agree, I think humans are adaptable. The fact that we have people living and we're eating what I believe is food that is like the fact that people can live on McDonald's is crazy to me.

SPEAKER_06

It really just goes to show like how powerful the human body is, like how adaptable our bodies are to be able to survive in this world with the level of toxicity we have. Like you, it's like think just outside of diet, you know, think about the environment, think about um the air that we're breathing, the water, the soil, um, all of that. And then, you know, think about people that are eating a standard American diet or eating a diet that's heavy in seed oils, highly processed food, microwaving everything, cooking everything. So it's like, where are they getting their life force from? How is you know how is their body even functioning?

SPEAKER_03

I don't get it. Like, I so sometimes I go through I've gone through phases in the past where I'm like, oh, I ate that thing or that wasn't that healthy, whatever. But then I'll see someone on the street who is like, and I'm not being nasty about anyone, but they are morbidly obese. And I'm like, wow, human body can really handle that. Like, okay, they're still alive. And and that is the truth. Like, the human body is so like cleverly designed that it is trying to keep you alive at all costs. That's right. But the thing is, do you want to be alive or do you want to thrive and live in your fullest, highest potential?

SPEAKER_06

Exactly. Do you want to be barely hanging on? Do you want to be in survival mode, you know, in terms of your health, like literally just hanging on by a string on your deathbed? Or do you want to literally thrive in this lifestyle? Do you want to be at your best? Do you want to be operating at your absolute peak in life? Do you want to be feeling your best? Do you want to be living the longest, getting the most longevity out of your life as possible?

SPEAKER_03

That's that's it. And we were even talking about age the other day. I might just close this window. Sorry everyone, there's some jackhammer going on outside. Might get a bit warm. We had to just go and close the window and check that our cameras were recording. Because that's like the biggest stress of making a podcast. Like Amy and I today were like remove, like literally doing a removalist job on this house to get this couch in the right position and all this stuff. Yeah, so you better like it, guys. You better fucking love this. Um, because we tried hard. Um, also, we are drinking orange juice in wine glasses because I know that there are people who are like, oh, the ladies who drink wine and like chat and all of that stuff. But we're we're like, okay, we'll have it in a we'll have orange juice.

SPEAKER_06

We're we're looking bougie and fancy. And the thing is that, like, yeah, we just want to show you that eating a fruit-based diet or eating a raw diet does not mean that you have to miss out on the luxuries in life. You can still totally do everything that you did when you know you went out drinking with friends. Like, you can you can have fruity mocktails, you can drink, you can make juice and put it in a wine glass so you feel like this bougie.

SPEAKER_03

And you'll end up being more on a high than everyone. Yeah, exactly. Like, even if you go to a party, everyone's on pingers, you're like, I'm on orange juice and I'm feeling crazy.

SPEAKER_06

You know what I love is that when your energy's so high, you get people like, oh, what drugs are you on? Yeah. And you're like, okay, wow, like my actual natural energy is so outlandish to most people that they actually think I'm on drugs.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

People are like, what drugs are you on? Can I do that?

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes I feel like I am on drugs. There have been moments on this diet when I've been on pure fruit and I've literally felt like I was on shrooms. Like my connectivity to nature, to the world, to how I see, like, it was so magical. Like, I can't even express it. It is one of those things where you need to try it for yourself. That's right. Because it's really hard for us to like explain. And and look, oh, something I want to cover with you, Amy, because you'll probably know about this. Um, you know, I I get a lot of people who are like, oh, you're vegan, you're raw vegan, like, um, I'm really nervous about iron levels. Like, I have to eat meat because of iron and B12 and all this stuff. I I really want to quickly say that I used to have obscenely low iron when I was meeting, eating, meeting, eating a meat-based diet. I was getting iron transfusions, and like everywhere I look around, my family, my friends who eat meat and a lot of processed foods, they're like, Oh, I'm not getting any iron, I'm so low in this, but I can't give up meat because I'll have low iron, but I don't have low iron anymore, and I don't eat meat. I have like perfect B12, like I just feel really, really good. Whereas I was always feeling like lethargic and faint before. And look, I don't know the full science between behind the iron thing. Um, but all I know is that every raw vegan I met meet pretty much is like iron problem. No, I don't have an iron problem. B12 problem, no, it's fine. Like if because I guess we're taking on the minerals that we really, really need from the food. Um, whereas I what I have been studying about um meat and dairy and all this stuff, in order to process it, and this is the thing with like things in a structured protein form, like this is why we think amino acids are way more important than having a finalized finished protein product, which is like soy or dairy or blah blah blah, because your body has to literally strip itself in order to process that, like the calcium and water content it pulls from your bones.

SPEAKER_06

That's right. That's why people are breaking their bones, and that's why people have osteoporosis even though they drink a lot of dairy. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's we're told to consume dairy to avoid the very thing that it actually causes. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

This is the trippy thing about life, right? And like when you start to wake up to, oh, maybe there's an alternate way of doing things. Um, but it's it's so true. Like a lot of people live in major chronic dehydration. That's right. And that's why people are aging so fast. Like when you start to awaken to all this stuff, and this is just on a consciousness level, but I actually think we are meant, and we were talking about this last night, we aren't meant to like die at 70 or 80. I think we're meant to live like a really long time.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely. The human body is it's a self-healing, self-regenerating organism, and a self-regenerating organism, but there's no real expiry if you think about it. If you consume a diet that is biologically, anatomically in alignment with everything, and we are living a life of purpose. We have joy, we have happiness, we have love in our life. We have purpose is huge, like having purpose is massive. Um that they're all the keys to living a long life. And there is no reason that we should be aging and and you know, st starting to decline by 50. Like the the numbers are just getting lower and lower. Like, you know, it started at like 80 or 90 that dementia happened. Now it's like people have dementia at 50, or people are starting to be like, oh, after 30, 40, life is like gonna go really great. S I shit, like it's gonna go to crap.

SPEAKER_03

Um we both feel better than we did as teenagers. Like yeah, I feel way better now than I did at 14. Yeah, I'm doing handstands and cartwheels.

SPEAKER_06

Same with me in my 20s, like my 20s, my my my like young to mid-20s is when my health started to decline. Yeah, and I can't even imagine what it's gonna be like for people like that are young kids now. Yeah, oh my god that are already coming into this world with already having like um you know, learning developmental issues, that are already having um chronic allergies, that are having food sensitivities. There's already so much going on with young little kids to think about where their health is gonna be when they're teenagers, when they're young adults, what's their health gonna be like in their 20s? And it's crazy. And yeah, like to go back to your point about aging, I truly believe that we are meant to live for hundreds of years, if not thousands. It sounds wild, people just can't wrap their head around that.

SPEAKER_03

We've been so see, this is the thing that I find so ironic is everyone thinks, you know, we're so evolved, us humans, we're so evolved. But in a way, we've almost gone through a de-evolution. We're de-evolved, we're evolved. We're almost de-evolved.

SPEAKER_06

We are in our most de-evolved state. It sounds crazy because we look around and we're like, wow, we have electric cars, electric scooters, we've got, you know, all this crazy like medical equipment and uh microscopic surgeries and whatever. But really, if we look at the state of our health, we are so backwards from where we should be. Yeah, we should not have a chronic health, you know, the CDC shouldn't even exist. We shouldn't have hospitals that are literally overflowing so much that we can't even fill beds and we have to build like bigger parts of the hospital to fit more people, more equipment. Like that is a sign that we are doing something very wrong as a society.

SPEAKER_03

We're in a bit of an epidemic with it all, and um, people are more reliant than ever on pharmaceuticals and all of this stuff. And I mean, I don't take any drugs. I did, I have not gotten sick in two years. I used to get sick. We also mentioned this yesterday. I was sick with tonsillitis and strep throat almost once every two months at a point. Like I was constantly getting sick, and I see it around me. Like I'm I'm not judging anyone, but I can see the proof is in the pudding for me. Like when I came into raw foods, I was very skeptical. I did a lot of research. I'm one of those people that's like an investigator. Like, I'm not just gonna take someone's word for dogma. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna trial this and then I'm gonna case study people. And I just couldn't help it. Like the people around me who were eating a conventional diet, they're always something's going on. There's like an ailment, there's like on my skin, oh my I broke my leg, oh, this happened, or that. And then you look at the fruit eaters, and there's also like different strands of raw vegan. Like, I think we also maybe need to explain this a little bit. Like, there's different there's people who eat very high fat, very high nut nuts, there's people who don't eat fruit, there's people who do. But when I look at the people who eat high amounts of fruit, so they're pretty much fruitarian, and maybe you know, a salad or a blah blah blah here and there. Um even people who just eat fruit, like there are phenomenal health stories with people who just eat fruit. I've gone just on fruit for a period of two and a half months. I did that, it was life-changing. Like, and now I eat just fruit, but then I'll have a little bit of leafy greens and salads, and on fun occasions I'll have some nori sheets and I'll do certain things to live a little. Live a little. Most people are like, is that living? Yes, it is, guys. I am alive. So um, I'm alive and well. But uh, but yeah, I've kind of lost my train of thought, but uh, but yeah, that's like like people are really thriving on this. They're not getting broken bones, they're not having these issues.

SPEAKER_06

I wanted to say as well that an actual thing that happened to me personally about um the power of this diet with recovery. Um, so yeah, essentially I was doing um the splits and I was doing these middle splits, and I've noticed that my flexibility has increased so much from eating fruit. Like I went from being so stiff and so um just inflexible to becoming so like my body just feeling like so like wow, I'm so bendy, I can move, and I I don't feel stiffness and tightness in my joints. Um and anyways, I've been on this whole flexibility journey for a pretty long time, like even when I was still, you know, consuming meat and more of a vegetarian diet. And um, yeah, I was doing these pretty intense middle splits, and I ended up pulling a hamstring on the very upper, like inside of my thighs. And when I went to the physio, he was like, Wow, okay, like you're lucky that this didn't actually tear off the bone, like it's actually so high up, you know, right near your pelvis. So yeah, he was like, This is pretty intense. Um, I could feel that when I I couldn't even do a forward fold anymore, like my flexibility, my whole range was so limited. I felt like I was back to um, you know, where I used to be like years and years ago when I had no flexibility at all. And he was telling me, like, this is this is pretty serious, like, this is gonna take you a significant amount of time to recover from, and you may never ever actually regain the level of flexibility that you used to have. So it was pretty hard to hear, but there was still this part inside of me that knew I don't have anything to fear, there's nothing to worry about because I know that my body is so powerful, I know it's self-healing, and I know that eating a diet like fruit that is so healing towards the body, that is so um full of life, that is full of nutrition, that I'm not gonna have any issues recovering from this injury. The reason that um, like I can see what he was saying, the fact that you know, if it was the average person, sure, they may actually never recover or they may never regain full range because think about it, he only has evidence from the patients he's worked with in the past. He can only go off the people that he works with to be like, this is the proof, and you know, I've only seen um people, you know, regaining 50%, and then they never get their full range back. But these are people, and like not to judge, but these are people that probably live a very average lifestyle, that aren't active, that don't take care of their body, that don't eat well. Um and it's like I know that I'm eating completely differently to I would say like 99% of his patients. So I know I will have a different result to them. Yeah, and and you recovered quickly, and I I fully recovered. So this injury I injured myself almost a year ago, and um it did take some time, obviously, it wasn't an overnight thing. Um, but the thing is that he told me I would have to practice um, like it would be hard work to get it back. He said I would have to practice very consistently, I'd have to put a lot of work in, and it still may never recover. And basically, I hardly had to put any work in at all. I just slowly gradually did a little bit here and there where I can and took my time with it, accepted that it was gonna be a process. Um, and yeah, now I'm basically at the stage where I have my full complete range back. I have no pain when I get, you know, go into that position. I don't have any pain. It's that's amazing. It's completely, I wouldn't say it's like fully, fully healed, but it is like 98% recovered. And I was basically told I would never get my range back, or it would take a lot of hard work in a very long time, and it's been like basically under a year, and I have close to very full range back, no pain.

SPEAKER_03

It's so interesting how a lot of people we notice are sick or are suffering and are struggling, and I think what that story of you like bouncing back and having that recovery is amazing, and um, and so quickly, but we aren't meant to get aches and pains in our knees, we're not meant to have these um problems, and and it's reminding me now of like I used to have this really bad knee.

SPEAKER_06

knee like clicking knees and then I used to get really um tight in all of my legs up into my glute like I'd constantly have to get my ex partner to like massage my glute because I was like come on like go do this I like I can't walk right now and then as I started to eat fruit that's actually something that I was experiencing that I thought was just a normal part of life and then that completely went away for me and it's funny because um now when I see people I talk to a lot of people out in life and in the town I live with and most people I'm like oh how's your body how are you doing and most people like oh I just hurt my knee my son just broke his leg this thing happened this thing happened oh I've got this health problem I'm really sick I'm I've caught the local bug and I'm here and I'm gonna look everyone in the eye when I say this that is no longer a reality for me like Amy and I we are not struggling with our health anymore like we don't think about it it's not it's we don't get sick like we can't we I just I can't relate to people when they when they are like oh I'm so bloated I'm so tired after every meal I'm so constipated I haven't been to the toilet in like three days um I'm always sick like I've got another cold I'm down with the flu again I have a virus I have the flu my throat's all sore like I just can't relate yeah to any of these ailments and not to say that I never have because obviously in the past like I did experience a lot of these physical symptoms I also was sick like four to six times a year and I thought that was pretty normal. I thought it was normal that in winter time we just get sick the whole like virus and the flu and you know we just or even being around sick people will make you sick and you start to realize that once you are actually your body your internal cleanliness that you've cleaned out all of the crap you're internally clean you realize that it's not actually a virus that you're catching off someone else it's actually you and oh gosh it's just like even like the whole cold and flu thing that is a detox response it is that is the body expelling yeah excess waste and the thing the reason why it happens in winter so commonly is because cold like cold air is alkaline and we oh my gosh Amy and when we are um when we are like backed up like lymphatically we've got like all this digestive waste like this old crap from years decades in still stuck in our GI tract um this is all acidic waste in our bodies and when we are coming into cold climates or it's winter time that creates a detox response which is a natural response that our body does to cleanse itself when we reach a threshold and cold air is alkaline so that is why we start to get like the sniffles we get a runny nose um all of that is actually so natural and we've been taught that it is wrong that it is bad that we need to shut it down yeah that we need to suppress it and that's when everyone goes out running to um the GP everyone goes to the pharmacy and is like I need a cold and flu head and cold like tablet tablets. I need to dry my nose up because it's dripping I need um pills because I have a headache um I need some whatever like things for my throat because I have a sore throat and all of this is the body trying to get rid of waste and when we literally bring in pharmaceutical drugs that is suppressing yeah it's suppressing what is trying to come a problem comes later like yeah and what people want to oh no you go I just wanted to say quickly I I love this quote from Dr. Morse so Dr. Morse says what you suppress today is your nightmare tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03

It's so true. Yeah honestly like look I have family members who have been really sick this year and they keep relying on antibiotics and I'm like guys you don't understand that antibiotics is just firstly it's killing all the good bacteria in your gut that is actually going to support you to get healthy but also it's suppressing all of your problems and creating further issues down the path so you know it's um yeah it's a yeah anyway but it's it's hard because it's hard to explain this to people and you don't want to like oh the other thing I was gonna say allergies is an interesting one because I used to think I was really allergic to cats whenever you know I thought or dust or all these things I I used to think I had all these allergies all the time because my eyes were constantly running. I was constantly taking those you know that thing you put it up your nose and it like it's like an antihistamine and it kind of spirits and it stops your nose from being blocked.

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Like I used to have to use that all the time. So did I um I don't have allergies anymore. Like I don't I can be in a house with a cat and it does not affect me. And it's because I realized my body was always trying to like it essentially it was highly inflamed and that's why it was constantly mucusy and I was getting these histamine reactions and I still get them a little bit because I'm still healing but oh my gosh comparatively to what I used to have I used to be like am I is there a cat in here like where where's the cat? Like that much dust like dust it's dust and then now I'm like obviously that's something that's actually bullshit. It's interesting with this diet because I I started to heal IBS really IBS was the main thing that was I thought every other symptom anxiety depression all of that I just thought that was a natural part of life and it was interesting because in the process of healing my IBS and finding fruit I healed varicus veins on my body I had lines on my face that have completely gone away my eyes have gotten clearer my teeth health have has gotten better my hair used to fall out all the time I don't have that anymore it's like all these things that I didn't even know were a symptom suddenly it became clear to me that these were all symptoms that I was having. Anyway we we want to talk about dogma because like that's another thing with food right and people can think raw vegans oh my gosh they must be crazy crazy vegans they're so dogmatic we don't operate in dogma I mean I not that I I haven't eaten cooked food in about two and a half months I've been fully raw I feel completely amazing but I'm very I'm not dogmatic like if if someone else is eating a particular way I have no judgment towards them only love and I don't feel restricted at all like people like how do you do that are you so restricted it's like no I love this food because it loves me back and um every time I've gone back to eating the pizza or the da da da I feel so trash in my body it's so night and day for me now that even though I'm I I have the freedom like I could go and eat a pizza tomorrow but I just for where I'm at right now I choose not to but in saying that I don't think um I don't think there's value in being too dogmatic. I want to hear what you have to say around this.

SPEAKER_06

I totally agree and I think I think when it comes to dogma well it's just it's not a a way that I like to operate. I don't believe in purist mindsets I don't think there's anything healthy about someone who tries to do everything perfectly even if you want to live a very um pure clean raw vegan lifestyle I still think that you need to have flexibility you need to have compassion for yourself because we are always going to be in different emotions throughout you know our day-to-day life so there will be times where you need to have more compassion for how you're feeling there could be days where you feel more dense emotionally and perhaps you need to eat some slightly more grounding foods or um yeah it's just there is nothing good that comes out of perfection. Yeah perfection mindset we we need to be perfectly imperfect because that's who we are as humans we are imperfectly perfect um that's it yeah and yeah it's just we need to extend that same level of compassion for ourselves to other people as well because we are all trying to do our best with the resources that we have with where we're at you know mentally consciously emotionally um and no one we we don't invite people into this lifestyle we don't inspire them by being dogmatic no we don't um you know the the goal is to is to show how beautiful how freeing how abundant this lifestyle is and if we are operating from a place of judgment if we are operating from a place of trying to control people of trying to shame people guilt people for you know still eating meat currently or maybe they're still drinking alcohol or whatever it is we need to approach people and meet them where they're at we we need to allow people to feel safe and that they can begin to experiment with a raw food diet and um and be allowed to be where they're at with that and if you're already raw because I went through a phase about a year ago where I was really trying to stay raw like I was like I've got to stay raw and when you do something out of like tightness you'll always end up binging.

SPEAKER_03

Like I would go like you'll always fall back or it won't be a joyful experience. It's got to happen naturally and so I would actually advise some people to actually I think it's even the most loving thing for me I think you should always follow your love what brings your heart the most love and the most peace in each moment. So it's not about dogma it's about following your peace and sometimes the more peaceful joyful option is to go you know what I just want to have some baked chips like you know what I want to try that I want to go there and have that experience and then loving yourself so much through whatever you go through. That's actually how you heal that wound around food like I had to go back and consciously eat a cheese toasty because I used to be a I loved that was like my thing a cheese toasty tuna cheese melt don't even get me started. I would have one every day if I could um so but it was very hard for me to give that thing up you know and it felt like oh like I'm this is so hard like I have to give up this thing I really like and the truth is you don't have to give it up it's a choice but but so I had it around Christmas time I had a cheese toasty again and um I did it consciously this time and I did it with love and I was like okay I'm gonna feel all these side effects and I did I did not feel good for a few days it made me feel gross I had like some skin stuff come up it wasn't the best and I I was able though to love myself through that experience that I released it naturally and now I have not had that attachment to the cheese toasty.

SPEAKER_06

When you're gri it was when you're gripping so much to like perfection that that actually is what causes the binging behavior. If you allow a grace for yourself if you allow yourself to have flexibility that is when and then say for example you go and do like you eat some hot chips or whatever it's like you've given yourself that small little gift that you no longer feel once once that's over and it's done you're like you just almost naturally want to gravitate back to the foods that felt great again. Because it's like you had that moment and now you can go back. Yeah but when it's like about perfection and there's like a gripping and there's like a tightness and like I have to do this perfect. Yeah that is when the binging behavior comes comes out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah because there's so much gripping yeah um we would we we wanna yeah we want we want there's we want fluidity fluidity and to follow your joy and to follow your peace and I can't even express like I've said this before I love my raw food I love my fruit explicit specifically but um I'm also open like if I had to eat something cooked or whatever I I mean I wouldn't do it if it didn't feel aligned but let's say I need I felt aligned to go and have you know a bit of um cooked something I'm open to that like I live for freedom that's what I live for and I think that's where some raw vegans get a get get a little loopy is they're not remembering that they are free. They've they've put themselves in an imprisoned landscape with this whole raw thing and it's like it's not like I'm out there eating hot chips every afternoon but it's like it's like I know I have the freedom to do it so I ironically just choose not to. Like it's that's right it's more of a free it's a free will free choice. But I I wanted to quickly mention so guys Amy is doing this um seven day raw food challenge at the moment and I know you were talking to me about it yesterday and you said in the last one you did there were a few people who fell off and I was asking Amy's approach to that and she was like yeah I just really just tell them to get back on the horse get back on the horse. Yeah 100% um but yeah if you're wanting to try raw food uh we are both coaches we are both health coaches that are like really interested in helping people understand this I'm very interested personally in in uh how that helps you recreate your reality and Amy's like oh my gosh Amy can do pull-ups she can do so much crazy crazy stuff that I'm not there yet but she's like she is so frickin' fit and so please follow her if you need an example of a fit vegan healthy vegan woman because maybe we could quickly touch on this like I just oh well that's so her raw challenge I want to touch on two things now so she's got this raw challenge so yeah you can look into that and maybe Amy you can explain a bit about that. For sure and then um and then I want to talk after that about um healthy vegan versus unhealthy vegan because I often get people be like oh you're a raw vegan I've tried veganism and it's like it's not the same no like there's there's two different things going on here.

SPEAKER_06

Like yeah there's like healthy vegan there's unhealthy vegan so we can touch on that as well.

SPEAKER_03

But I think firstly like just give us a little briefing on your challenge when your next one's happening how people can sign up the whole deal about that.

SPEAKER_06

Yes so the challenge essentially was created to help people that had really never you know experimented with a raw food diet before it's really an invitation and an opportunity for people to get a taste of this lifestyle and it's done in a community form. So a huge part of why I put the program together is because support and accountability is so important on a raw food diet because it's so different to how everyone else is out there living. So if you don't have support it's very very hard to stick to because especially if you're new you just don't have that level of assurity in what you're doing. You don't have the values grounded yet so you don't know what you're very very strict on in terms of like these are my values these are my pillars of what I believe in and this is what I stand for. So if that is not intact yet you you know you're you're new to veganism or you're new to RAW you are going to be sort of on unstable ground in the sense of like you're new you're learning um and if you're doing raw for the first time and you're you know with family and friends and work environments people are going to start to ask you what are you doing? Like you're just eating fruit yeah like it's going to bring up scrutiny potentially it's gonna bring up a lot in people they're gonna get triggered they're gonna have questions they're gonna be concerned for your health it's all gonna come up and if you are not strong in yourself yet and and what you stand for what you believe in you you don't even have evidence yet to prove to anyone that this lifestyle is is working or whatever. You need the power of community to keep you um accountable and to keep you feeling motivated and supported so yeah like the the experience essentially is it's all online it's a group experience. It's I've set it out so that it's a seven day meal plan all of the recipes everything's all put together for you so there's a full meal plan of like what you eat Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday blah blah blah and it's structured where it has three meals a day plus snacks. Everything is a fruit meal up until dinner time. So it's um you know for dinner we have like a beautiful raw savory dish. For fruit we're eating lots of juices lots of smoothies lots of fruit mono meals fruity snacks and it's really to give you guys a taste of what I eat personally myself on this lifestyle. It's to give you an overall structure of how to structure your day as a raw vegan what what do you even eat what do you have for breakfast what do you have for lunch and yeah so there's a WhatsApp so we all stay connected in the chat every day we there's check-ins uh we all I encourage everyone to share their meals their pictures of their recipes their grocery hauls updates on how they're feeling um it's just a great vibe to you know every day wake up and scroll through the messages and to see that people are like wow you know I'm feeling just like some of the messages that I was getting it was just so beautiful um to witness all of the the wins that people were having in such little time you know this is only a seven day challenge and it's really to show you um how much can actually start to shift in only seven days. Yeah there were people that on day two and day three were already noticing changes. And that is that is how quickly this works and um I will share just a couple of great testimonials or great little experiences that people had just to demonstrate the power of what this diet can do. Yeah essentially there were family members so family and friends of the people that had joined the challenge they um became inspired off the back of what the people were doing in the challenge at home. You know they would see the grocery hauls the meals they were like you know I want to try this and um I had some great feedback on on some people that said their husband wanted to join in on the salad um that their kids wanted to join in on the smoothie bowls because they looked so good. I it was just amazing and there were a couple of there was a lady who her sister was um had high blood pressure and also diabetes and um just her sister from eating some of her leftover meals had actually seen her blood pressure drop from 130 down to like 90 in the 90s. My gosh so just and that's not even from her doing the entire challenge like she only literally just ate a couple of meals that her sister couldn't finish from the plan. And she experienced that and there were people that lost up to like six kilos um people felt that there was some girl who said that she had um worked over a 12 hour shift and the day went so fast because she just had so much energy she didn't even think about food or she was just not even like tired. So it just really like just to read some of these testimonials was just crazy to see that this is not just an experience that happens to me and you this is an experience that everyone can experience everyone can have this this is not a um it's just reserved for special people or whatever like we both came from toxic past and lifestyles and we didn't treat our health well We didn't care about our bodies. We were once sick and didn't look great. And um things can change. Things can change.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the body is not broken. That's I think so important. And uh just to back that whole thing up, like I've when I was on my journey of transform transformation, the amount of coaches that I saw, I told you the other day, I would just book one-hour calls with so many random coaches just to get their perspectives and hear their stories. But then I also was a part of a group for a couple of groups actually on various occasions. And I think having that community is really, really helpful because um, yeah, when you start, and if you're someone who started to wake up to this, even veganism, it can be very isolating in your own communities. Like I live in a town where I'm the only raw vegan, like everyone knows me in this town as the fruit fruit girl. Like I'm famous, like I go into Woolies and they're like, we don't have grapes today. Like they know me. They're like, but we got watermelons just for you, um, which is great because the fruit is all mine. All of mine. It's all mine. Don't do this because I want it all. No, um, it's uh it's really remarkable, and um, I think also like if you're on meat and let's say you're eating a standard diet at the moment, like even just going on a raw vegan challenge for seven days is such a fun thing to do. And Amy made me an amazing um dressing the other night. We had these raw nori sheets, and oh my gosh, this dressing you made was so top-notch, it was really, really good. So highly recommend jumping on board for your next raw challenge. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'll tell you, it's it's um the next challenge is on the 29th of June. June. So this month, the next two weeks or so. Yeah. Um, and yeah, I'll just quickly touch on the point about dogma with this whole challenge that I've had as well. Is that um, as well, the goal was never about perfection with the challenge. So, like I said, you don't have to come into the challenge being a raw vegan already or being vegan or whatever. Like you can still come into it wherever you're at. It's more that this is just a this is this is positioned as a challenge to essentially just get you to start interacting with raw foods. Come and learn about raw foods, come and see what this lifestyle can do for you. Yeah, it's not necessarily about me preaching this diet and being like this is the holy grail. Um, I would like you to come along and actually experience it for yourself. Don't just take my word for it. Come and actually try this. Come and see how your energy shifts, come and see how your digestion changes, come and see how you have a brighter outlook on life that your mindset starts to change.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um, come and actually experience these benefits for yourself. Yeah, and um, it's never about perfection. There were people during the challenge that emotions came up and they were like, I'm really struggling at the moment. I'm dealing with a lot, you know, in my family. My family, I'm really struggling to eat this food around them because of their judgment or whatever, they're eating this, and I'm feeling these emotions of like, oh, I just want that old food again. Yeah, and yeah, with with with detox, when when we are bringing in these foods that people aren't used to, um, it's going to bring up emotions and because food is so suppressing, right? Like when we are eating um cooked foods, when we're eating highly inflammatory, uh, highly processed foods, a lot of animal meat, um, this is creating so much density in our bodies. And when we are on fruit, when we are on raw, we we are no longer using food as a way to keep emotions down. So they are going to naturally come up to be felt, and our job is to feel these emotions, to work through them. It is very hard to do, and I understand just how hard it is.

SPEAKER_03

So I want to quickly jump in there if you don't mind, because I think something I I'm teaching a lot through my work is not even my work, this is universal work, universal knowledge, but we all are most we're energy. That's the truth of who we are, is that we're energetic beings, right? And so, um, and our field and our energy, it creates our reality, it literally creates it. And so, um, even if you're someone who's come onto this channel because you're interested in evolving in consciousness, you're e interested in like manifesting more abundance into your lifestyle, you're interested in all of this stuff. The reason why I'm hosting this episode is because I eat and we eat, yes, for health, but I eat because I want to be a player in this game. I want to have the best strategy when it comes to life and it comes to showing up and being able to live out my dreams and feel my emotions. And because we're these energetic beings, what's often holding us down is these suppressed emotions that we're not letting go of. And so, and often we're using food, been there, done that, still sometimes do it with fruit, if I'm being honest. But we use these um foods to not have to feel. But what we're not understanding is our feeling is the key to our absolute evolution. Well, feeling is healing, wouldn't it? It's feeling is healing, and it's how we become whole. And so that's what happened to me earlier this year. I went on fruit for two and a half months straight, and I pretty much went through a second spiritual awakening. It was frickin huge. I I had so much suppressed emotion that I had dampened down with food that it came up and it was really hard to go through. Like the emotions were tough, and I ended up realizing that my partner wasn't the right guy for me, that you know, I he's a lovely guy, but it just wasn't really a match anymore. And my career I was following wasn't a match. Like it literally changed me on every single level. I felt like my whole life changed, and all I can say, guys, is on the other side of going through that, I have never been happier. Like I am, I am feel more myself, and so you know, I like to talk about overcoming the bullshit that isn't you. Food is a massive part of that because if we're numbing it down, we're attaching to these emotions that aren't us, we're keeping them in our field, we're keeping them in our field. Whereas when we eat lighter food, remember, like if this is a game and you know, let's pretend we're playing Minecraft here, and you know, some things that we consume are plus a thousand, some things minus a thousand. Your food, when you know the energy behind food, it's a no-brainer. If you want to like go out there and literally dominate and have not dominate in the sense of like, I own you, but just like, you know, really come at life with your as a thriving person and be happy because that's really what we want at the end of the day. Food is so freaking important. And raw food, I've done every diet under the sun. I've done the meat one. I just don't conversation about carnivores, not judging anyone, and everyone's on their path. But I'm like, how are you guys not depressed? When I eat meat, I feel the depression come into my body, I feel the anxiety, I feel the pain of the animal, I feel all that stuff. As we touched on earlier, like, you know, yeah, what we consume is so important for show how we show up. I cannot stress it enough. And that's why with my own clients, like I'm I want to teach people how to freaking up their game and up their reality, but I'm also interested in food, and and it's because it's such a key thing. But do you have to be a hundred percent raw? Like, this is the thing we're talking about with dogma. You don't have to be a hundred percent raw, like you even just said in your challenge, there's a someone who didn't even do the full thing and they already noticed major benefits.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's that's that's right. Yeah, I really wanted people, like I wanted people to feel so welcome with this lifestyle. I wanted them to feel that they could be accepted for whatever they did. It's never about it's never about shaming, guilting people making people feel guilty because when you think about it, even to touch on what you said before, if going off and eating some hot chips or whatever, the emotion of guilt and shame actually creates more toxicity in the body than the actual food itself did. So, say you ate some like hot chips cooked in canola oil or whatever. I did about a month and a half ago. I did. I was like, if your mind is thinking this isn't a joyful moment, I should feel freaking horrible about myself, I'm the worst person ever. Why the heck am I doing this? I regret this so much. While eating this food, you are literally making toxicity, like you are creating more. I showed you that image of my skin in the body than you are from the food. Like it's so about the stress and mindset.

SPEAKER_03

And and the other day, like, this is why I say to people, I think your joy accounts for something, and not I'm not saying like, oh, go have a happy meal all the time. I don't think I think it's coming to things with consciousness and awareness and going, okay, is this in alignment for my body and my evolution right now? Because sometimes you're drawn to something because there's a very valuable lesson in trialing it. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06

And I think as well that sometimes when you go and eat something, like whether it's cooked food or whatever it is, and you have that moment, it can sometimes actually push you closer towards consistency with raw vegan. Because I there's obviously on the journey when you transition, when you're trying to stick to raw, and then you go back to a cooked meal and you realize, like, oh god, like I do not feel good. Like, you know, because you were craving a pasta, maybe. Maybe you gave into that craving and you had some pasta, and then your body, through the way that you feel the energy, the digestion, you wake up the next day and you feel like crap, and you're like, I don't want to feel like this again. And then you it may not be a one and done thing, it may be that multiple times you have to have these back, you have to go back and regress a little bit and then have some more cooked food. Yeah, and then you go back enough times and you're like, I'm done with this crappy feeling. I I I feel a night and day difference between how I feel on raw versus how I feel uncooked or eating whatever food.

SPEAKER_03

But I think your taste buds evolve as well, and you actually end up finding flavor is fake. Like, I will try something now, potentially when I have in the past, of something that's been processed or cooked. It is gross to me because I'm so used to the vibrancy and deliciousness of raw food, particularly fruit. It's just like yum when you eat ripe good fruit. And you know it's so delicious, it's unlike anything else. It puts a smile on your face. It does.

SPEAKER_06

You know, humans can never replicate what God created. No, we can we can have fruit flavoured every and the thing that I think is just so funny is the fact that it really goes to show just how much humans are instinctively, you know, that fruit is our diet. Because you look at all of the lollies, you look at the sweets, the cereals, they are always fruit flavoured. Yes, like lollipops, ice creams, sweets, whatever, they are always like apple flavoured, pineapple flavour, orange, you know, Fanta, blah blah blah. It's all replicated around the natural flavours that are in fruit. Yeah. But they make it art.

SPEAKER_03

And the mum will usually be like, oh, fruit. They would eat fruit every day if they could. So, so this is interesting because we wanted to talk a bit about the biological side of this. And so, yeah, on my channel, something I'm really interested in is is yeah, I'm interested in in consciousness, obviously, and how we have a spiritual body, but we also have a physical body. And um, you know, this is where people are like, yeah, but everyone's different, everyone can eat different things, you know, humans are always adaptable and they've they've got different diets, and some things work for some people, some things don't. Well, I would say that there's two sides to this coin. There's a level of people being not able to hold a fruit diet just yet in their nervous system. It's too much for them and it's too scary, it's too overwhelming because as we've talked about, you have to be very strong in yourself to take on this diet. You have to um, you know, know how to stand up to people. And some of the things I've been called before, you just have to be like water for duck's back, and that takes having a very strong sense of self. And um, and and yeah, and maybe people aren't ready yet or they're not, they haven't become aware of this or whatever, but then also I want to say we do have a a third-dimensional body, we have we are a physical body, and this is where you know I'll get comments on Instagram of people being like, yeah, but we're very adaptable, we should, we, we are designed to eat cheese and da-da-da and all this stuff. And I'm like, No, we're not. If if you really look at the anatomy of our gut tract at other species and how the closest species to us are monkeys and they eat fruit. Um, the fact we have hands, the fact we have eyes that see colour. Um, you ask young children what's your favorite food? Fruit or sweets. Um, it's always we love sugar. We wonder why we have this obsession with sure.

SPEAKER_06

We wonder why we're naturally drawn to sugar.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, everyone wants a dessert after they eat dinner. Often you want a dessert because your body is craving sugar. It needs the sugar, it needs that hydration. Um, yeah, it's there's so many things that make sense about the bio the actual biology of our body. And and yeah, there's stuff that we just have to contend with. Like, I and I think a lot of people in spiritual communities, I see I meet people who are suffering with health and they're very spiritual people, and um, and they they're not ri well they kind of I've met people that want to spiritually bypass their health issues. It's like, oh, positive thinking will just fix it. It's like, well, we also live in a in a world a world that is matter, and it's logical. If you want to jump off a building, you're gonna die, your physical body's gonna die. If you want to run in front of a car, you're gonna die. If you want to eat McDonald's every day, you're going to have a premature death. There's concept. We live in cause and effect.

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SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so there is this thing of everyone's different, and you know, um, I agree, I think it it's about flowing with reality and not having too much dogma, but then there's also another element to contend with, which is there is a reality here that you know, we do have this anatomy. There are causes and there are effects. If you want to go and do certain things, and there's the thing is they say that this is a like a myth, the fruit thing is a myth. There's actually a lot of science behind this, there's a lot of evidence that I'm reading at the moment that just is so it makes it, but even on a simple level, it just like we don't have the teeth for meat.

SPEAKER_06

Just even think about like bab babies and children really show us what we are instinctively because adult humans are so conditioned. Yeah, so we can't look towards adults, we can't look towards people that have these credentials. Like like credentials mean nothing these days because it can all be bought and paid for, and a lot of what we're taught is complete BS. So we really need to look towards what children do, what young children do under the age of seven, because the age of seven is when all of our programming that we've had as kids, that is when it's all like ingrained into our system. Like our whole system is like built by the age seven of like our beliefs, our programs. All of that comes from parenting, um, who our caregivers, um, who we surround ourselves, the the messages that we subconsciously receive from our environment, how people interact, we read people's emotions, we make up stories, we create this whole. So we are con we are completely programmed by the age seven. So we can't look to really anyone above that age. We have to look to children to see how they instinctively behave around animals, what they instinctively are drawn to for food, and it is fruit. If you put a baby or a young child in a cot with an apple and a rabbit, it'll be it's not gonna tear the rabbit around, it'll play with the rabbit and eat the apple. It's it is never the other way around. The baby or the child is not gonna go and munch on the rabbit and play with the apple.

SPEAKER_03

But because yeah, honestly, I meet so many kids, and the amount of parents I met a little girl the other day, and the parents were like, Yeah, our daughter, she just didn't want to eat anything but fruit, and now we've finally gotten her onto cheese toasties. And I'm like, No! And you know what? The the my experience with cheese toasties, I'm like, go back to this note, this is what she's doing.

SPEAKER_06

The thing is that like when parents or or people will say, Um, you know, my children are so fussy, they just won't eat fruit, you know, I could never get them onto raw. That is because they've already been conditioned. That is because, no offense, but you've already been feeding them food that's it's also very addictive, this food. Exactly. That's what I'm learning. It's highly addictive. You feed children highly processed food. Very addictive foods. Yeah, exactly right. And you've got to think about the way that our taste buds are also hijacked from these foods. So when we are eating super highly processed foods that are very, very high in sugar, salt, artificial flavors, colourings, all of this crap, it is extremely stimulating for our taste buds. It actually completely desensitizes our taste buds, everything in our mouth. So when we go and try to eat an apple or we try to eat some, you know, a salad or something, something in its natural form, we are actually like, this is so bland. Yeah. This is so boring. Like, I need to not anymore I need to cover this in like sauce and sugar and salt and everything. And it's like, that is because your your taste buds have been hijacked from these hyper-stimulating, hyper palatable foods. And um, yeah, it it is a shame. Like, unfortunately, if if kids have been fed a standard American diet, they have have been taken to maca's, they're eating processed sugary cereals, they're eating lollies, they're eating chocolate bars, they're eating fanta drinking Fanta and Coke and all of this. Their microbiome is their gut is like they have the bacteria in their gut that is going to crave those foods. So when you try to introduce raw foods or fruit to them, they're gonna be like, uh-uh, like I'm not eating that. Yeah, like I want maccas. But that's not instinctual, that is programmed behavior. A child that has that grows up naturally, who isn't exposed to any of this, who isn't fed any of this food, will not naturally be like, I want McDonald's, I want candy. It it it's it's all so true.

SPEAKER_03

And even if you're you're a parent and you're eating all that stuff and you have a baby, I think it naturally then goes through to the baby. Like what the mother is eating in childbirth, sorry, in pregnancy, it also affects what the child then becomes addicted to. Absolutely. And I I mean I can't even believe it when um I have to hold back my shock when I see pregnant women drinking coffee. Yeah. I mean, I have to hold back my shock when I see anyone drinking coffee. I'm just like the stimulating qualities of coffee and how addictive it is and what it does to your adrenal glands and all this stuff. Um, just have juice, honestly. I'm like swapping.

SPEAKER_06

Juice is the real coffee.

SPEAKER_03

Juice is whole coffee is even better, to be honest. But juice is a great thing if you feel like you need a glass of something in the morning. And we're not talking about um pasteurized juice, we're talking about like go buy a juicer or an orange juicer, like a hand one. And just have some juice if that is gonna help you come off coffee. It's gonna make you feel way better. Yeah. Without the crashes, too.

SPEAKER_06

No. You know, juice, juice doesn't bring you up, bring you down, where you're like, ugh. You know, it doesn't have the highs and lows that coffee does. It doesn't, it has the addicting behavior, but only in a good way. Yeah. You want to be addicted to fruit. You don't want to be doing the juicing thing every day because you're like, I love how this makes me feel, but it's not coming from a place of like, I need this to survive. I literally cannot function without having caffeine first thing in the morning. And it is to go it. And if you wake up in the morning and you are tired after an eight-hour sleep, there is something seriously wrong. Yeah. That is not how you should be feeling. That is not normal. It is not normal to be waking up in the morning literally being like, I cannot function without my coffee. I need two to three cups of coffee a day for me to stay focused, to stay like switched on, to not fall asleep. None of that is natural. And sure, there's like a progression when you phase out coffee and you try to get off coffee, like you will feel the effects. You will feel what coffee has done to you. You will feel that energy depletion because when you are constantly consuming caffeine and coffee, you are burning out the adrenal glands, like you just mentioned before. And people, because they're constantly putting more coffee in, don't actually realize how low their battery has become over time. So you are slowly destroying your battery every single time you consume coffee. And eventually you will get to a place where you are so depleted, completely depleted. And when you finally get off coffee or you try to move on from it, you will then reap the repercussions of what you have done by piling in the caffeine constantly, constantly, because it is so acidic, it is so dehydrating to the body, and it it's it's not true energy, it's not true dynamic cellular energy. It is a fake, fake stimulated form of energy, and stimulation creates depletion in the body. If you think about something that's constantly like stimulated, it's wiring you're just gonna be able to do it. And then you're just an exhausting process, eventually there will be burnout, which is what happens, which is what's happening to people.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Um, just to like, because we will wrap this episode up pretty soon. I just want to quickly touch on the topic of healthy vegan versus raw vegan, because I often meet people who will say to me, Oh, you're a raw, you're a vegan. I've tried vegan. Vegan doesn't work for me. It um I didn't like it. Um, I'm not very good on legumes. I'm not very good on bids. I just want you to let I just want to know, I'm not a vegan. I'm I'm a fruit-based raw vegan vegan. So there are even different types of raw vegans. There are raw vegans who eat very high fat, they eat a lot of just greens and nuts. Raw gourmet, raw gourmet, which is like the yeah, it's very nut-based, it's all of that sort of stuff. I think the best food on earth is plain whole fruits. My diet is pretty much whole fruit, and then every now and then I'll throw in a salad. Like two or three times a week, I'll have a little salad. It's usually very simple. On the odd occasion, I'll have a nut-based dressing, or I'll have some nori sheets, or I'll, you know, quote unquote, live a little. Most of you guys are like, you're insane. Um, but I don't care. Um but but um but yeah, whereas vegans, Amy, like talk to us. What is like what's what's why is veganism just not it? Like cooked vegan food? Like, you know, I know that people can do high raw. I think high raw is good where you're that's where you're majoritively raw and then you eat a little bit of a.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I would say high raw is more like raw tool four approach, which is like raw all to all all throughout the day, and then four or five dinner time you have a cooked whole fool, wh whole food meal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, whole plant-based, and that could be like potato, baked potato, some steamed veggies, it could be a vegetable soup.

SPEAKER_06

Um, I mean, if if if you really feel drawn to having like some uh lentils or something like that, quinoa is the quinoa is great because it's quinoa is quite alkaline, so it's actually it's not like a heavy buckwheat, I think, is another one that is I think generally speaking, how what I would advise people based on my studies is like try and steer clear of gluten.

SPEAKER_03

And um, I don't think beans are great for the human system. They're not beans and grains are really hard to digest. Stick to quinoa if you feel like something like that, um, or just even just veggies. And and just lots of vegetables are good, steamed veggies, make a make a veggie soup, make a baked potato if you have to, or like you know, do these things. There's like there's really great options out there that you can do.

SPEAKER_06

And the thing I think that we need to make a point of as well is that vegan does not automatically mean healthy.

SPEAKER_03

No, okay, so yeah, we want to talk about vegan.

SPEAKER_06

This this is huge because people will just automatically like, and the thing is that marketers have even got onto this as well because you'll see that products, um, they know that if they slap a vegan label or plant-based or whatever it is, or all natural, there's all these like little tricks that they can do in marketing. And essentially, if you put vegan on a label, it will just automatically peep make people assume that it's healthy and it's good for you. Especially if it's green.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and you can use green.

SPEAKER_06

And you can look you can look at the back of this packet of whatever of biscuits or chips or whatever, and then you can see that it's actually not healthy. It it may have an ingredient list that's 20 ingredients long, and half of them are all chemicals or like super long names that you can't even pronounce. It's like, I'm sorry, like, is this actually meant to be this is meant to be healthy for me? Um, so I think that a lot of people fall for that. They they believe that anytime they see a vegan thing, um, vegan on a label or whatever, that it's actually healthy, but that's not the case. And you can actually there's actually foods like hot chips, they're considered vegan. Yeah. Um, some lollies and chocolate bars, they can be considered vegan. Um a lot of like vegan burgers, they can actually be literally all made like the plant. They're completely chemical is literally just made of like 50 chemical ingredients. It's there's nothing natural about it. So vegan absolutely does not mean you are healthy. You know, you could be eating a full junk food vegan.

SPEAKER_03

Vegan just means you're not harming animals, it doesn't mean healthy, it just means you're not harming animals. So we are vegan, so we're not harming animals, but then we're choosing not to eat anything that is processed. Yeah, like that is it. If it needs to be cooked, well, cook is a pro processing pro if something needs to be cooked, it's not your biological food. That's really what it comes down to. Okay, but we do just really want to talk about detox because often when you come onto raw food, I experienced this because I went on fruit for 10 days, and in the first three days, I got sick. I got um, I had I had uh detox, major detox happen. Like, um, yeah, I fully got the flu, which is actually the flu is just a detox system is symptom, really. Your body's overloaded, so it's trying to release all the mucus, all the stuff. I went to the number twos like a hundred, like not a hundred times. Like that's that's an exaggeration. Like eight times in a day, and all this crap, like it smelt rank. Sorry guys to say this, but it smelt rank. And it was all coming out of me, all this dark crap that was really weighing down my energy and weighing down my ability to show up and be a happy person. Because if there's stuff trapped in your bowels that's like just old food matter, that's affecting you guys. It's affecting your mental health because what happens in your GI tract is very connected to your mind.

SPEAKER_06

Gut and brain, completely connected. So when your gut is off, your your mind is off. Like you can't think clearly, you can't receive downloads, you can't feel clear-headed, you can't feel like just everything is off. And I know that anytime I eat like bad food combinations, or I mix like fats with fruits, or I just eat in a way that's a little bit out of the way that my body is very used to eating, and I can feel that my gut is like gurgly or it's a little bit off, immediately affects my it does, it f it affects me too.

SPEAKER_03

I find that. I mean, I'm pretty good at being like because I like meditate a lot and I'm pretty good at like just observing my emotions, but I definitely feel it. Like it's so true. I I'm able to kind of observe it now and not really lean into it, but yeah, it'll make me sometimes just cranky. Like I can feel like I've had a I'm I'm having a hangover. Yeah, like I'm like, mmm, just yeah, it's like you have a less, yeah, it's like you have less tolerance for like crap in life, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Sorry, my tummy is making a rumbly noise.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe I've eaten a poor combination. Amy's like, uh can you go to the bathroom, please?

SPEAKER_06

And the thing with like bathroom is that like it's such a um, you know, it's over in like five five seconds, you know.

SPEAKER_03

I made a joke last time and I want to repeat my joke. But go for it. Okay. I'm so lame. I'm actually repeating a joke, but that's what comedians do. So um, I think I'm a comedian. Um, but you know when you go to the bathroom, right, and you're on conventional food and you need to do a number two, and you're kind of embarrassed because you're like, I hope this doesn't take 20 minutes. Because everyone's gonna know what everyone's gonna know exactly what I was doing in that bathroom. I never have that problem. That's how quickly food comes it comes through me that people are like, You do you only wee? I'm like, yeah, I I only wee. I only wee, guys. I'm literally like, like, I'm like, I'm going to the bathroom, and people just turn around like within a second, they're like, ah, you're right there, you're back. Do you even go? Yes. I did it all.

SPEAKER_06

It's like you don't need you don't need to sit on the on the toilet like scrolling your phone. No, I've got no time to read. Reading a book for like 20 minutes, sitting down reading a newspaper, whoever still reads a newspaper. But um, it that it's just not a thing. It's just like it's over like that. It's like you're in the toilet, out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're you're done. You're done.

SPEAKER_06

There's no strength.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes you don't even need a wipe. Yeah, it's I mean, I do, but you some you don't.

SPEAKER_06

Like it's so clean that you're just like sometimes there's no smell as well. Like it should your your poop really should not be feeling like smelling um putrid.

SPEAKER_03

Like Newsflash, if your poop smells rancid. I'm not judging.

SPEAKER_06

I mean part of what we were just saying with detox, like yeah, you will at some point be releasing some disgusting stuff. Like I I experienced the exact same. Like I've literally had stools come out that literally smell like chlorine. I've had chemical smelling stools, I've had black, tarry looking, disgusting stools, I've had bright orange stools. Yeah, it's like I've had everything that's and it, you know, that's that's all normal. When you detox, yeah. Through the detox process, you need to get this crap out because it's been in the body for such a long time. It is putrefied, so it makes sense that it stinks.

SPEAKER_03

It's gonna be gross. It's gonna stink. You're gonna have very intense emotions coming out when you detox, you're going to have putrid stuff from your body. It's going to be an ugly experience, but in any evolution, you gotta get ugly and messy before the shed, before the the radiance comes out. I lost weight when I went on f fruit, and I know I'm a skinny person, we both are quite naturally thin, but my body has leveled out now. Like I when I was eating meat, I showed you a photo three years ago when I was at meeting meat. I was really gaunt. Like my face looked like so much older and so much more gaunt than it does now. Now, I know we mentioned it before, but I mean, we look really young. Like we're in the young 20s. I know I sometimes And I'm about to turn 35. Like, I'm 35. I've said it. I'm about to turn 33. Like, we feel better than ever. We feel like we've reversed age. I hear of young women my age going, oh, I need to get Botox. I'm like, no, you don't. You literally just need to eat more hydration. Change what you eat fruit. Change what you eat. And you will never pay for another doctor, you will never pay for another specialist. You will save your money. And people will be like, oh, fruit, it's so expensive. No, not in the long term. Not comparatively to going to specialists all the time. Exactly right. Not comparatively to getting Botox. Not comparatively to, you know, surgery. Surgery, doing all this stuff to yourself, having to get a facelift if that's what you feel like you need to do. I don't think we're gonna ever need a facelift.

SPEAKER_06

And really, it's not, it's not an expense, it's an investment in your health. Like, I I think that's what's so important to recognize is that it's never about um, you know, feeling like, oh god, it's so annoying. Like, I have to buy all this food, it's gonna cost me so much money. It needs to be seen as this is an investment in my longevity, in my health, because it's all about the long term. Yeah. It's never about like being short-sighted and just thinking about what's best for now. You need to always think about where do I want to be in the next 10 years, 20 years, 30 years? Where do I want my where does where does where do I want my health? And you know, you think about um if you if you become sick in your older in your older years, it's actually a selfish act because it means that your children or your family, you become a burden to them because now they have to take care of you because you failed to take care of you.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. So that's so true.

SPEAKER_06

It is actually the most loving thing that you can do for yourself, and the most loving thing that you can do for everyone else in your family or your loved ones is to take care of yourself because um, yeah, you you want to be that person in your 80s or 90s who has energy, who can bend down and play with your kids or grandchildren. You want to be someone who inspires younger generations because of what you did and how you ate and everything that you achieved. You want to be that person of inspiration to everyone. You want to leave an impact when you leave this world. You want to have a legacy, you want to leave something beautiful behind. You don't want to be that person who is a burden to your family, who they have to pay money, who have to spend time and energy taking care of because you have dementia and you have 50 health issues and you're in a nursing home and you're needing 10 surgeries a year.

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It's a really sad reality, and I think that's a really um beautiful way, just what you said. Like it's such a giving thing. When you give and love to love yourself, you ultimately give to the collective, you give to everyone. So for me, this diet, it's uh it's about complete and radical self-love. It really is, and I think we'll just we'll we'll probably wrap the episode up there. But when you feed yourself with worth, you show up with major self-worth in this world. Like you you you treat yourself with love, you show up with love. Amy, it has been such a pleasure to talk to you today. Thank you so much for coming on I'm not holding back. Um, yeah, the podcast where we don't hold back. We've told you how it is. We're speaking our truth, we're sharing it with our love and our hearts, because ultimately, and we said this before the episode, we are just so grateful if we impact one person's life today. If if someone watches this and they're just like, oh my gosh, that's changed my reality. We really feel we've done our job. So thank you guys so much for tuning in. Thank you for being here. Come along next time, next episode. Don't know what I'm gonna do about it, but something's gonna happen. All right, all right. See you guys. Thank you so much.