What It’s REALLY Like Doing Security for Baddies | Hulk Security Guard Speaks out!

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We sat down with professional security guard Hulk (@hulk_elbodyguard), who’s worked with some of the biggest names in the game including Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion, DreamDoll, DJ Sky, and Capella Grey — plus security for the Baddies cast on Zeus Network.

He breaks down what it’s really like doing security in high-pressure environments, from reality TV chaos to working with major celebrities. We get into the difference between handling security on shows like Baddies versus structured movie productions, and how unpredictable things can really get behind the scenes.

He also gives insight into the Suki and Gretch macing incident and what actually goes into managing situations like that in real time.

This is a rare look into the world behind the cameras — the people who keep everything under control when things go left.

Tune in for this week’s dose of mess and behind-the-scenes tea.

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SPEAKER_09 0:00

Do you know who gave Suki the mace?

SPEAKER_00 0:03

I'll take the five.

SPEAKER_09 0:09

Okay, so anyway, did you did you know Suki had the mace?

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Um so I will say this.

SPEAKER_09 0:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Before that.

SPEAKER_09 0:26

Talk into the mic, talking to the mic. Before that, uh this it on the beat again, this is on the beat again, this it's on the beat again, but it's on the ticket. Welcome back to another episode of the Petty Headquarters. I'm your host, Channel Luck, and this is Jesse Strange. And today we are back again with another episode. And of course, we are going to be doing something very special. As you can see, we have a special guest with us today, okay? Yes, we do. So this is someone that just be in all the industry rooms, okay? They've done professional security for Megan the Stallion, Rihanna Dream Dog, DJ Sky, Jocelyn Hernandez, all right, Capella Gray. Don't call me white girl. The resume is long, okay? So today we are sitting down with Hulk, the security bodyguard. Welcome to the Petty Headquarters, Hulk.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

Thank you guys having me. Thank you.

SPEAKER_09 1:40

How you feeling?

SPEAKER_04 1:41

I'm good. I'm good. Okay. It's so funny because I'm like, some New York honey.

SPEAKER_10 1:47

Yeah. Period. Period.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

This joint right here. Sunrise.

SPEAKER_10 1:53

Every time I've seen you, you've always been in your black uniform looking hella scary, hella serious. So now he's dressed down as off day, feeling a little, you know, a little casual, you know, enjoying the weather. Right, hell yeah. Finally.

SPEAKER_04 2:12

It's nice, right? This weather is insane.

SPEAKER_10 2:14

Yeah, finally, we've had the longest winter ever.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Keep telling everybody when you're in July, it's gonna snow. Oh yo, shooting fireworks with snow.

SPEAKER_10 2:26

Right, having too much fun. Every time I feel like the winter's over, they come back. Cold snack.

SPEAKER_09 2:33

There's a cold snack.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

Just two days ago, I had the heat on again.

SPEAKER_09 2:36

Yes. That's why I keep my heat on all the time. I don't even care at this point. I'm like, I'll keep it in a good 72, 77.

SPEAKER_04 2:44

I like cold. I like take I take cold showers.

SPEAKER_09 2:47

What? Okay, well, that's good. For your profession, I feel like that keeps you alert.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

I don't know, it's not always done, so oh, okay.

SPEAKER_10 2:56

You play football, yeah. Yeah, you give me football. You give me, I played football, took ice baths.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

Nah, yeah, the ice baths, that shit helps though. Like, that should be good.

SPEAKER_10 3:06

Yeah, it's good. It's good.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

I still do it sometimes at home. Like, it's good to do it. Yeah, especially like me, like I'll be on my feet so much. That's true. And like, you know, I'll go like two, three hours of sleep to go do another 12. So, like that ice bath after a nice two, three days of doing that shit.

SPEAKER_10 3:23

Man, crazy, man. So tell us that that's like great. So tell how did how did you get into doing insecurity? How the hell did you get there?

SPEAKER_04 3:34

So, first of all, I gotta shout out my brother Tiny.

SPEAKER_10 3:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

Um, no, she's like I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_10 3:39

Be the biggest man that be tiny.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

Yeah, this motherfucker. Listen, that motherfucker's big. You have to think I'm big, that motherfucker's big.

SPEAKER_09 3:49

So, how did he get the nickname Tiny?

SPEAKER_04 3:50

I don't even know. No, that's how they all are. Honestly, I don't even know. And I can say in my life, 32 years old, I probably know one small tiny. That's it. They're all one person that I know like goes called tiny and he's actually tiny.

SPEAKER_10 4:05

Bro, usually, no friends to your bro, but usually the girls are called tiny. Yeah, and they're tiny. You know what I mean? But if you're tiny and you're dude, usually they're the big, big, big.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

At least like 350, 380.

SPEAKER_09 4:20

Jeez, no, he's huge. And it's like the audacity for the nickname to be tiny is crazy. So your brother got you in.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

Yeah, like he was um, he always did it because, you know, obviously his size or whatever. Right, right. Um, he introduced me like to the industry or whatever, and then like after he basically introduced me, I um, you know, it's always the security world is always about marketing. Um, you know, I hate like people that always want to keep shit to themselves. Gatekeepers. Always, you know, like all like don't wanna see everybody like win. Win and be on that level, you know. You always gotta like, you always gotta give somebody a chance, you know. The more you market, and you know, you talk to people, and you know, I I do my job. So, you know, it's like not out there to fool around. You know, there's a lot of security guards that are like are still fanboys and on that fan base shit.

SPEAKER_09 5:08

What is what do you mean? What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_04 5:10

Like, you know, there's like there's a lot of security guards that like still get hype.

SPEAKER_09 5:17

Like they'll be like, And they don't do their job, they just like like oh, it's not gonna sell you, so they don't do like that.

SPEAKER_04 5:24

But it's like, oh, look who that is.

SPEAKER_10 5:25

Like, oh, they be geeking, they be geeking.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

But you know, it's like it's cool to like like I've had moments and like but you have those moments inner, you know, it's like and like after when you go home and you chill out with chill with your friends and shit, you'd be like, yo, bro, I was I was with so and so. I was around so and so, like, you feel me? So it's like like I've been around fucking people that like people can't even say, right, right. And it's like, you know, I it's it's a humble, it's you know, you gotta just be humble, you know. Right, for sure. I'm blessed to, you know, even be in certain rooms that I've been in, you know. I've messed with a lot of people that like, you know, talk too still, don't talk too, you know, and I'm still blessed, you know. Like I don't like to hate on nobody's sex or none of that. So, you know.

SPEAKER_09 6:12

Dude, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

I love that.

SPEAKER_09 6:14

We love a humble man.

SPEAKER_10 6:16

No, for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 6:19

Cause I could see how like being in those rooms, you can kind of get lost in that, right? Like you could like how do I say it?

SPEAKER_04 6:27

Like, yeah, you'll get lost, but like with our world, you always gotta stay focused. Yeah, you know, because it's like you never know like what's what's what, you know. Like, I've been in situations where like like you could be one rapper and you could be another rapper, right? And y'all cool, but like your entourage is not cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been in situations like that and stuff like that, you know.

SPEAKER_09 6:47

So I have a question. Talk to how do you feel about the whole situation with offset? Like, you know, did you hear about that? Where you want to explain that situation real quick? Is he he knows about it? Is it offset and GJ, people that don't know?

SPEAKER_04 6:59

Yeah, like the whole thing with these rappers, too. Like, I just feel like you guys is in a whole different money bracket and all this stuff. Like that street shit, like leave that shit alone. Like, I hate when people like come out of like such a struggle and still want to like be in the struggle. Like, I see it still too. Like, that's why like I I I like to stay away from like the rappers now and all of that. Because of that, you know, because it's like you cool, you know, you you you doing your movements, but it's certain people that like you're gonna do it. You know, you're gonna you're gonna because you grew up with them and like I feel that. Don't get me wrong, you know. Don't get me wrong, it's always like don't switch up on on home.

SPEAKER_08 7:38

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 7:39

But if if you let now, and this is your homegirl from five years old, yeah, and she's not gonna start changing now as well, because if you gonna be around me all the time, I gotta chill. Right, right.

SPEAKER_10 7:55

That's like Nicki Minaj when she be hanging out with her goons in Jamaica. Like, and it's just like when all of them do it.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

It's like, you know, it's like mad whack. No, I don't get it. I don't get it by the booth still. Like, you know, it's like like I hate when like I'm working with somebody and like their entrepreneurs are just like, nah, he good, we here. Okay, so what the fuck I'm here for? Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 8:15

You know what it's like. I can't imagine that.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Like, bro, like that's such a that's a great perspective. And that hood shit gotta stop. Like, it just gotta stop. Like, yeah, we outside to have a good time. Like, why if you come out with 15 people out of the 15, five is on go all the time. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_09 8:34

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

That shit is core. And like, you know, I've I've I've came from you know the bottom of security. Like, you know, like I've had the fucking office jobs and the uniform jobs, you know, and the club jobs. So I see it on both sides, you know. Like, like a lot of my friends, a lot of people hate me because like I like, I don't like to go out to clubs.

SPEAKER_09 8:54

Like, work, that's your job.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

Yeah, and then it's like always like when I'm outside, like, I'm just still always alert. Yeah, all my friends being like, yo, relax. Like, you know, like shout out to my cousin. Like, for me, he always like, yo, relax. Like, a lot of my brothers, like you can't, right? People are just so stupid now, like, especially when they drinks, yeah. You know, and then it's like a lot of like you know, clout chasers. A lot of security girls gonna feel the type of way, but a lot of security girls don't do their job at the door, you feel me? So it's like that guy too, also get a more serious moment. Like, when like I hear all these club shoes and all that shit. Shit turns out whack.

SPEAKER_09 9:34

So, how did you know that? Like, do a security, this was it for you. How did you know?

SPEAKER_04 9:39

I've had so many different jobs.

SPEAKER_09 9:42

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

Like, I've fucking cleaned porta potties. Wow, I had my CDL, like I've like cleaned grease traps, like you was. I've just done I've done restaurant work, uh and securities is like what I like. Like, you know, like with in the security world, I got into like the private investigating stuff and like serving people. So it's like a lot of my friends are like, yo, you just like dangerous shit. Right, and it's like I really coined myself on that because it's like like a lot of people catch it like when like I'll serve somebody for some shit, right? I'll be hype. Like, you know, like not weighing, but it's like, you know, you be sometimes like I'm one of those people that I'll get lost on a reel. Yeah, you know, like I'll keep I'll go going and going. Like, you know, you see like dumb ass videos sometimes where people like take advantage of people like in the street and like start acting up, and like, you know, I always say, like, a lot of people know who they doing that shit too. Right, you know, so it's like right. I'd be like, bro, I'd be in the train and shit. Well, certain shit like that can't happen.

SPEAKER_10 10:57

Like, you said, right. So you said something very interesting, which leads me to a question. You said that, you know, even when you go outside, you can't really turn it off. You kind of focus, you're alert, because you know what the environment comes with. So, do you think that because you're so desensitized to like toxic environments and the craziness that it can also affect you on your personal life in a deeper way, or no? Can you turn it on and off?

SPEAKER_04 11:20

No, you I could turn it on and off because like I'm not saying like I can't go out to like a restaurant, you know, and have a little fun. Like, you know, those restaurants where like they it's not a club. Right, right. Like, yeah, you know, I do your little thing in one, two, three, and go home. Like the Zelda said, after 12, you know, go home for me. It would be like like with all with everything and like life now. Like, I got three kids.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

You got three kids?

SPEAKER_04 11:46

I got three kids, like, you know, I like I'm older now. Like, I've been in the street at Young. Right. You know, like my mom hates me for it, but you know, I'm a good, I say obviously I'm a good kid going wrong. Yeah. Like, you know, like I always like the the outside fit, I guess. Like, and you know, I was like in clubs at like 15, 16.

SPEAKER_09 12:05

Okay, so you've been about this.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

At 21, when now like I was able to drink and go and yeah, you was already doing that. Like, you know, so now like after like I'm not I can't even frown, like after like 25, 26, that's when like my whole mood like completely.

SPEAKER_11 12:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

Because it's like I did all this shit. Right. Like, you know, so like when people still going out and so hype, I'll be like, relax. Like, you don't understand how I would work. Like, I used to like work at one club, like, you know, clubs, there's certain clubs that would be open seven days a week. 100%, especially in New York. I'll be working a club like fucking five days out of those weeks, and it's the same people, and it's like, like, y'all don't get tired of this shit. Yes, spending the money.

SPEAKER_05 12:51

Like, look at the look, yes, just a flash.

SPEAKER_04 12:53

Y'all be leaving here mad drunk on Friday. Yeah, barely remembering. What do you got to do on Saturday? They're back here again. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 13:02

Like, I just don't understand how people can do that.

SPEAKER_04 13:05

And then y'all come back on Sunday.

SPEAKER_09 13:07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 13:08

And then for what a taco Tuesday, Thursday, Thursday, everyone, Wednesday, whatever, Monday, we're talking like it's like nah.

SPEAKER_09 13:18

Y'all just waddling church Sunday, like, no, go to church, that's the Lord's Day. You should be in church on Sunday. What do you mean the club is?

SPEAKER_10 13:30

Right. That is crazy. Now that's facts. That's that is crazy. I I think I think I can relate to you. We both can relate to you because we were just at a at like, you know, when we do the baddie stuff, we go to the the bookings, and for us, it's work, right? The same way for you, right? We're getting coverage, we're getting the footage, but but it's so exhausting. And I just like there's people that we know that did the auditions. This is what they do. Yep. So they'll like really be about that day after day. Like, if they're here Friday, Saturday, Sunday, they're gonna be outside Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Meanwhile, I'm I don't know how they do it. I'll be over it. I don't I be over it.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Uh like like I've like I've done the the movies, TV shows, like I've been on on sets. Those sets to live TV sets.

SPEAKER_10 14:18

Very different, right? I know you did the celebrities, I know you've done the content creators, you did the clubs, you did the reality TV shows. You said you did the production. So my question to you is stay tuned, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 14:31

Also, never wear Prada 2 drop. Look out for Elias Rodriguez on that. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 14:40

That's a liar. Okay. As an actor?

SPEAKER_04 14:44

No, no, security. Um, yeah, we was like dealing with the premiere? Um, not like the whole show? Oh, onset until they went to like Paris, but take us to pro to Paris.

SPEAKER_10 14:59

So my question to you is what do you think is what do you like working better? Like what's the difference between the live production versus um like a movie sets?

SPEAKER_04 15:11

Definitely movie sets. Okay. Oh, you like the movie sets? It's so much shit that like we see that y'all don't see.

SPEAKER_09 15:18

Right.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

You know, like like like yeah, it's it's like that in like the movie shit and all of that shit, but it's it's more like bloopers and like maybe like two actors not getting along or whatever. But in the reality world, it's like y'all don't like each other, y'all might be in the back room fucking each other up, type shit. Like, you know, so it's like it's more, it's just more on point shit, you know. Like, so where like in the acting shit, like, unless we really like outside, swimming and outside scene, like you know, you're not really so like crazy about it. Cause like when you're in a studio, you just probably man in the door, making sure your actor gets from like her room to the stage. Like, right, you know, like it might you might have have like a show where like there is a shared studio. Like, you know, you gotta be on point, but not like crazy, you know, because like it's steps for you to get into a studio anyways. Yeah, I'm just gonna pass security and IDs and all that. But so I don't know if y'all seen crazy shit where like you know, it's right there's a lot of shits where like you don't get told nothing, you know, at least in this in the shit we know like what's going on, and right in this live TV shit, you chill in one moment, and all of a sudden you look back and there's a brawl going on, like all right.

SPEAKER_09 16:36

So we're gonna ask you the question. This is the main question, right? So, how is it being security for a show like baddies, but also being security for the individual baddies like DJ Sky? Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_04 16:48

So, like for Sky, like you know, we did like so basically like with the whole baddie stuff, like whenever they come to New York, um, they hit up they hit up like people I know. So, like, you know, it's always yo hope, you available, whatever, whatever. Um you know, after like I did like two events, I guess like you know, they was cool with me and they like the way I work or whatever. Um then like with the whole individual thing, it was like always like after like the show or whatever, like they'll like go out to like separate, like you know, Sky was doing like the DJ.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

So, like, you know, they always call me or whatever, but I'm not gonna lie, a lot of these girls, a lot of guys that I've worked with, like, like, you know, real life shit, they act so much differently. When the cameras are off, right. To when they're everywhere everybody around, you know. Because like, even with like the whole baddie shit, like a lot of them gotta be on point because it's like you in the house with a girl that don't even like you. So it's like it's it's different.

SPEAKER_10 17:47

Do you do you watch baddies or not? You just did okay, okay. So when even like you don't understand, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Like you don't you don't understand like how many like people tack like like my boy's kid, oh every time she sees me is like baddies, baddies, shot o'clock.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:03

Like I'd be like, bro. Like I can't imagine, y'all.

SPEAKER_09 18:10

No, for real.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

Ratchet TV is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 18:12

No, it really is. So when you're in those environments, like working in a ratchet TV realm in a space.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

I'd be so appalled.

SPEAKER_09 18:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:21

Like, I'd be so like, like, sometimes I'll just be like, yo, like, y'all know people are gonna see this, right? Right. Your family. Like, yeah, like kids. Listen, like, at the end of the day, is like, who the fuck am I to judge? Right. What is what you wanna do? You feel me? Who's y'all making your money and all of that shit and entertaining the people that like the shit? You know, but it's like, oof.

SPEAKER_09 18:47

So I know we made a video, right, that we put on our page, and we it was Baddy's East when they were filming. Yeah. We had gone to one of the baddies events, and DJ Skye was getting crazy. She got drunk, she got drunk, crowdsurfing, doing a lot, and you were one of the security guards that was holding her up, right? While she was doing all types of shit. And we will show this video here too for y'all to reference. But your face, you just hold it up with a serious ass face. Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

It tells it all. Really, nigga?

SPEAKER_09 19:22

She's at the beach. So, what were you thinking in that moment when that happened? Because you just you'd know nothing. It was just serious. Just doing your job.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

But you know, you don't understand though. Like, you don't, like, it goes even deeper than that because she was regular, you know. It was like we woke in with whatever, and then it's just like, so now it's like, you know, that's what I'm trying, that's what I was trying to tell you. Like, you could you gotta always just be able to turn it on.

SPEAKER_09 19:50

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

You know, you know, she got on top of the couch as you know, we trying to hold her, we gotta make sure she don't get hurt. She holds you know, right? So a lot of responsibilities, you know. So it's like I think a lot of the times a lot of them don't understand that too. For sure. You feel me? So it's like yeah, for the cameras, everybody wanna see y'all fight for 10 minutes. Right, right, right, right. But for the sake of our job, too, like we can't allow that, you know. So it's like a lot of times it's like you gotta just know.

SPEAKER_09 20:23

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

A lot of security guards would will stay asleep on a moment like that, you know, like not really paying attention to the to the situation, you know.

SPEAKER_09 20:31

It's not good.

SPEAKER_10 20:32

I could also see because I know like at one point in the show, um, in another season, there was like a uh a rumor that a security guard had punched the shit out of one of the girls.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

Yeah, I heard that shit around, but I never know my business. Yeah, were you there? No, no, that was uh that was for Afro Girls.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:51

Yeah, yeah, I like I heard a lot of shit, but like I know a lot of shit gets talk about security guards, like, you know, like what like you know, we're too aggressive and this and that, like or y'all be grooming the girls or some shit. Like, yeah, like it's all it's a lot of like first of all, this whole grooming girls and like all security guards, get all the girls and all of this. You gotta watch out for a security guard. First of all, it be y'all. Y'all wanna get in the clubs, y'all wanna show out to your friends oh, we going out to Dykman today. I know the security guard over there, he's gonna let us in, girl. Don't worry about it. Oh so is that.

SPEAKER_06 21:34

How is it that our fault?

SPEAKER_04 21:35

Like, of course, if a if a motherfucker's out there, he's single and he's enjoying his life, and a girl throw it on him. What are you supposed to do? Not catch it, right?

SPEAKER_06 21:44

That's true. Nah, that's true. You feel me? He's gonna catch it. You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 21:50

And now it's like, oh nah, but if he's a security guard, like, wrong. We not out there. First of all, I know motherfuckers that go out to Fucking club to work and is counting the seconds to go home. Oh, I'm sure. A lot of people be like, yo, y'all enjoy doing this. No, bro. It's work. Who enjoying this? My eighth water, third fucking Red Bull. Yep. Have to pee, and I gotta go through a thousand motherfuckers to the bathroom and now wait for the motherfucking bathroom. Yep. And this bathroom's fucking disgusting and shit. And I gotta come back. Go through all of y'all again and come back to do my job. You think this is fun?

SPEAKER_10 22:30

You know, I never thought. I don't think I've ever, not that because security guards are usually boys, but like I've I don't think I've ever been at a club on a line next to looking at a security guard waiting for the bathroom. Like I never really thought about that.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Yo, stop this line. I gotta go.

SPEAKER_08 22:46

Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 22:47

You feel me? And it's like, like, you don't know how many times you got we gotta deal with, can I see your ID? I don't have my ID. That's crazy. You are a grown motherfucker. You are grown. Carry your motherfucking ID. They have apps now.

SPEAKER_05 23:03

Right.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

It's some New York, it's like some DMV app you could download.

SPEAKER_05 23:07

Get the hell out of here. You could put the ID on your phone now. Oh, that's it has a whole little, you know, a lot of clubs got the skills.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

I mean, it's through DMV though.

SPEAKER_09 23:16

I guess that's CSA airport not gonna take that shit.

SPEAKER_04 23:21

Nah, they do because it's skins. It's skins, it has the whole barcode for your ID. The airport it's New York State. Like it says it's like New York State. Wow.

SPEAKER_09 23:30

I learned something new.

SPEAKER_04 23:32

It's like it's so much shit that like, you know, like to be responsible. It's even a picture, like, yeah, a lot of security guards be dickheads and be like, no, I don't like taking pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a lot of the times it really be the venue. That's crazy. Because at the end of the day, you know, police. Yeah, you know, police do come, you know. I don't don't quote me on this. I don't think a cop is taking a picture of your ID or some shit. Like, you know, right. I'm picked, but no, because I think they, if you get pulled over without a license, they ask you for like if you know your ID number. Is it real?

SPEAKER_09 24:04

I don't know. I don't know. It's been a minute since I got pulled over. So yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's new because they was not doing that shit.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

But you know, just carry ID, it's so much shit that we did with just IDs, like take off your hat. But that's not my rule, bro.

SPEAKER_08 24:18

Right, right. That's not my rule.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

I like wearing hats. When it's cold, I like wearing scullies. Right.

SPEAKER_08 24:24

I like wearing shikeskies.

SPEAKER_04 24:26

My neck warm. Like, you know, like, but if in your house you have a no-shoe rule, right? You wouldn't like me to come into your house with my shoes, right? That is a fact.

SPEAKER_09 24:38

That's a fact. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

And now you you upstairs in your house, and I text you, yo, I'm outside, and your means or your girl, your mom, or auntie, grandma, whatever, the dog answer the door. The dog and he tells you, and they tell you, yo, you gotta remove your shoes, the dog and you walk in.

SPEAKER_10 24:58

Anyways, it's crazy. That's disrespectful.

SPEAKER_04 25:00

You feel me? So it's like now I'm disrespecting your house rule and the person who just opened the door.

SPEAKER_09 25:06

Right, no, right.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

So it's like a lot of people just gotta leave that mentality, bro.

SPEAKER_09 25:10

Like, yeah, I love hearing this perspective, right? Like, because nobody knows what the security guards gotta go through. So it's true. You here to tell us everything you go through.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

Like the shit I've seen.

SPEAKER_09 25:21

What have you seen? What can you talk about? What's the craziest thing you've seen?

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Yo, that's crazy. Yo, that's crazy. Because my friend just on my way was like, yo, what's the craziest thing? You know, they gonna act. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen people overdose, like I've seen people get fucked up, like, you know, I've seen shit.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Oh, some ditty shit?

SPEAKER_04 25:46

Nah, like beat up, like really, you know, essentially like as a security guard, also, like, you know, you see the videos where like people be like, where's the security guard? Yeah, where's where's the security guard? Hold on, hold on. I like this one, right? I like this one right here. I like I like the where's the security guard, right? Before I even get there, right? A problem that a lot of security guards are having in me personally that I know in New York City, uh huh, venues don't want to pay. You know? Venues, promoters, fuck it. I'm saying it. Venues, promoters, your man's that book trying to book you, they don't want to pay. So and I'm gonna tell you right now, you cannot pay a guard $150 to work a club. That is uh done that's been done for, and I I don't know how much I can stress this.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

$150 for the city.

SPEAKER_04 26:45

In New York City? New York City. That is outrageous. I know promoters. I know clubs still that pay $100. That's outrageous.

SPEAKER_10 26:53

Well, no wonder the clubs aren't being protected, right?

SPEAKER_04 26:55

Exactly. So now, so now that's that's what I'm gonna get to. That's what I'm gonna get to right here, right? Wow. Go to New York City tonight, right? The um, like downtown, like Hell's Kitchen. Yeah. And just walk around where there's where there's a strip of like, I don't really know names of streets, but like there's like a strip out there by college, I think. There's like mad bars in everywhere. And just count how many skinny, small, probably don't know English. That's true. Security guards they are.

SPEAKER_10 27:30

Why? That's kind of true. I never, you know, you're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Those guys are just trying to make it right now. You know, they're trying to just get it where they can. Yeah, a lot of those people be unexperienced. A lot of people just that just got their security license. Because those people, you you you come to my interview and you'll be like, Yeah, I just I just received my security license. Look, I'm gonna be like, Yeah, you non-experienced. I can give you $18, $20 an hour. Right. You feel me? Right. It can't you cannot have a more security guard in the club. I'm gonna say this again.

SPEAKER_08 28:07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

You cannot have a more security guard in the club. That's true. Two different lives. That's true. You can't throw, you can't throw an unexperienced security guard to the wolves.

SPEAKER_08 28:17

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 28:19

Clubs are veils characters, and I'm gonna tell you this, it does fucking not. Because it does fucking not. Because you get you don't you don't know what type of person somebody is. Like, you're gonna have a motherfucker's gonna stand his ground or dash. Yeah, and your whole operation. He started the night off with three six. That's another thing. Clubs don't you if you're trying to book me for your venue, right? It's my company, right? You're having a meeting with me, giving me a tour of the venue. Uh uh. And I tell you, I need to make sure you haven't this amount of people, I gotta make sure this, this, this, this, this here is good. And I tell you, I need eight security guards. Why are you telling me you can only pay four and then expect for the night to go crazy? And then the night comes and you're calling me, yo, but I need this, sir. You told me four people. I told you eight.

SPEAKER_08 29:10

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 29:11

Because they don't want to pay. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_08 29:14

That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

And then it's like a lot of people complain about the type of security guards that be in some venues, but it's like, bro, that's that's the only person that's gonna do this job for this amount, right? Exactly, exactly. You can't call an experienced guard that's been in motherfucking deep trenches, clubs in Brooklyn and Queens, everywhere. I know motherfuckers that's like I I be like, bro, you God bless you, bro. Because it's like y'all love that shit still, you know. Like, yeah, y'all wake up every motherfucking night and still do this shit. You feel me? The overnight. I've been done with that shit. Yeah, you feel me? Like, y'all got it, and you can't call those type of people and tell them, yo, can you work five hours for $150?

SPEAKER_10 30:02

You get what you pay for, and that's really what it is. I can see that.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

So I'll be dying when like a lot of people be with uh to get back to the oh, where were security guards, right? It's a venue with motherfucking 350 people. The venue only paid for three security guards, and when you look at the video, there's 18 hookahs and 15 bottles flying in the air.

SPEAKER_06 30:24

Security is outside, safe. Yeah, because that's like that motherfucker got a family to make it home to right. Right, that motherfucker got responsibilities outside of here because y'all don't care about your life, right? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

That's fine. I'm sorry, like I'm not a lot of people like when you see like fights outside the clubs, yeah. First of all, that is not. I hate when security guards are outside trying to break up fights.

SPEAKER_10 30:51

That's not your jurisdiction, right?

SPEAKER_04 30:53

That's not, bro. I you don't know. First of all, abroad, bunch of motherfuckers just came out. You trying to be the good person that you're trying to be, right? Trying to make sure niggas don't. But guess what? Out of 20 motherfuckers that just came out, you don't know which motherfuckers just went to his car to get the grip.

SPEAKER_09 31:10

Right. That's the thing. Yeah, it's always somebody that be shooting up and lighting up the club at the end of the fucking club. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 31:17

Stay your ass here. That's it. You did your job, you took the problem out the venue, right? That's it.

SPEAKER_10 31:24

Let the cops handle the rest of the stuff.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

That's it, right?

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Lock that door, don't let nobody else back inside. Yeah, good rated. Back up for the from the door because they start shooting and shit.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

Yeah, and anybody else that wanna go out there, you more than motherfucking welcome. Right, right.

SPEAKER_10 31:40

That's true, though. You do you do got three kids when you think about it like that, you know, and I'm sure. Yeah, I would be thinking like that too. The fuck?

SPEAKER_04 31:47

I know I work with motherfuckers that got a sick parent at home that's doing this to pay the bills, you know, extra money.

SPEAKER_05 31:54

And bro, don't risk yourself.

SPEAKER_04 31:56

Like, you stop doing this, who's gonna take care of mama love? Mama love. Who's gonna take care of the kids later? Like, you know, so it's like a lot of people like, oh my brother. Yeah, but if you don't care, bro, why the fuck should I care? Right. If I told if I came by your section, if your section keeps complaining about this section, and I've done came here multiple times, yeah, and you still bothering these people, and now they decided to throw their 15 hookahs at you.

SPEAKER_10 32:29

You're gonna pick your battle, you'll be smart about it, right?

SPEAKER_04 32:32

And then again, it goes back to like, why are you even outside with such bad energy? Like, like you ever did shrooms? Yeah, like you know they tell you like when you're doing shrooms, you can't like be stressed. Yeah, you gotta be in a good environment. Good environment, good people, yeah. Why I can't just go outside and be like that. Right. Just calm the fuck down. Like chill, like get it some nature. How many good venues have been shut down, so many good events because motherfuckers like a lot of people be like, there go black people being no, it's not just black people, bro. It's like Spanish people, like it's a lot of Dominicans are wild. Like we are horrible, we ruin mad shit. Like, right, right, right. It's everybody, it's just everybody's a mentality, you know, it's a mentality. A lot of people really come out their house on a I don't give a fuck mentality. Okay, and it's it shouldn't be like that, you know. Yeah, you could be outside on your P's and Q's always. You feel me? Always.

SPEAKER_09 33:33

Now that you've clarified that, you know, it don't be security guards not doing their jobs, you clarify that whole thing. I have a question in regards to going back to um baddies, right? So the one that just dropped, which was the one that would just finish? Chapter one of Baddies USA. Yes. All right, so there was a situation, right, in the club where the whole club got maced by Suki Hana and Gretsch got maced as well.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

Everybody, we're about some mace. To me, the show was a mace. I don't know nothing about no bear mace. Do you know who gave Suki the mace?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

I paid the fifth.

SPEAKER_09 34:59

Okay, so anyway, did you did you know Suki had the mace?

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Um so I will say this.

SPEAKER_11 35:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Before that.

SPEAKER_09 35:16

Talking to the mic, talking to the mic.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Before that, uh you did see us with Suki at the Jocelyn shit, so yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_11 35:25

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

It was a wild sh it was that was wild. Uh bear spray is nothing to play with. That keeps bears away.

SPEAKER_11 35:36

Right, and bears are bigger than humans.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

That keeps big, scary bears away. Like, she she wild out for that. I'm not gonna fly. Like, I'm not gonna say I've I haven't done that before. I have bear sprayed a lot of people before, but you know, I take what y'all want from that.

SPEAKER_09 35:53

How do you feel about that situation?

SPEAKER_04 35:56

I mean, again, going back to the whole, like, is this a wild industry? And that just proves it. Like, you know, it's like sis is and I've been around her a couple of times. Like, I think she's from like Gunhill or some shit.

SPEAKER_11 36:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:11

And she sis is like she really about that. It's like it's like certain, like when I be see, like, I be seeing like little clips and shit, like of these girls fighting and shit. Yeah, I'd be like, yo, maybe y'all shouldn't fuck with like these certain girls. Like, leave leave them alone, like like ivory. That's a name. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_06 36:33

Leave her alone.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Why y'all why y'all even trying to uh was what's the other girl from Baddies? Um sister.

SPEAKER_11 36:41

Tosiki. Oh yeah, leave her alone.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

First of all, like I always grew up, like I've been, you know, like I've been around different girls like that fight professionally. And if a girl gives you a stand and is doing this, yeah, no, for real.

SPEAKER_11 36:59

She knows what she's doing.

SPEAKER_04 37:01

Either down her growing up was trained in some shit, or you know, your parents put you in karate class when you were small and you still kind of remember that shit. Yeah, she had older brothers, yeah, or she just had a bad upcoming and she had to get it on. Now, a girl that just wants to talk and say she's gonna fuck you up, those are the girls that you can play with. You know, you might be able to, you know, maybe because you know the quiet ones is the dangerous ones. Right, right, right. But a girl that while she's talking to you, she's beating on you, leave her alone. Leave her alone. So leave her alone. You think like I sorry to cut you off, but because it's I just seen this shit. Ivory punched some girl, and she said somebody threw a brick at her.

SPEAKER_10 37:46

Oh, I seen that that shit look crazy. Yeah, time out, time out.

SPEAKER_04 37:54

She said someone threw a brick at her, and we all watched since cock back, yeah, and just yo, that shit look crazy. If you my friend, you'd be like, nah, cause fuck that bitch. I'ma fight her for so and so sis.

SPEAKER_10 38:14

Nah, yeah. Yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

She's hitting bitches with bricks.

SPEAKER_10 38:19

And that was her hand. Apparently, apparently, they're filming chapter two right now, and she's been apparently running it up too.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

She's big.

SPEAKER_10 38:29

Not in the back, like she's no, yeah, like a big, yeah, she'll fuck you up. Like, yes.

unknown 38:36

No.

SPEAKER_04 38:37

So this looks like she be in the house doing pull-ups and push-ups.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

For real, for real.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Season about to start.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

Y'all seen them niggas working out in the gym doing the pull-ups and shit.

SPEAKER_09 38:50

She looked like she continued. You think that's how majority of the baddies prepare before they go on the show?

SPEAKER_04 38:56

Shit, probably. I would. Her and Christian's sister, if they come out later that they do it, I wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_09 39:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:04

Because it's like when I see girls like that so fit, it's like, bro, there's no way you didn't play no sports.

SPEAKER_05 39:09

And it's like, athletic. Why are you trying to fuck with her? Like, do you not see her legs? Like, like she was playing catcher whole high school. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 39:17

Yep. That's a third thing.

SPEAKER_04 39:19

Bricks? I was I was like, nah.

SPEAKER_10 39:22

Do you think Suki Han is a part of those don't fuck with those girls?

SPEAKER_04 39:26

Suki definitely got I never really seen her fight, but I think she got hands. She's dirty though.

SPEAKER_10 39:31

She plays dirty. Like the bear mace is hella. We don't play family.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

Right.

SPEAKER_10 39:36

Right.

SPEAKER_05 39:37

Survival. Yeah, like especially school. Suki's little. Yeah, no, I feel that. You feel me? So it's like it's probably time to give it to a couple big bitches.

SPEAKER_04 39:47

Like you gotta it's so funny. Listen, you gotta bite a bitch, you gotta bite a bitch.

SPEAKER_10 39:53

That's crazy. It's true, it's true. When you're in the streets, there is no fear, nothing.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

Like you gotta survive. You gotta you gotta make it back home. Right. You don't know what this other person's mentality is. Like, you don't know this person. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 40:08

She's telling me I'm gonna fuck you up. Right. Whoa. Enough said, right?

SPEAKER_04 40:14

I gotta take it, like, you got a gun on you, sis.

SPEAKER_05 40:16

Like, so I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Listen, she felt she she didn't feel safe, so she sprayed them.

SPEAKER_09 40:25

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 40:27

When police don't feel safe, they sp pepper spray and taser people, right?

SPEAKER_09 40:31

Oh, she's not the police though. So that's a crazy comparison.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Is a self-defense item.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

Right. And for bears, though. So I carry bear spray. Listen, pepper spray, I know y'all seen videos of pepper spray, don't be working on people. It don't. Not to people that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

And listen to this though, right? Damn, I wish I had more bear spray. Yeah. So I can show y'all. Like, it's it's it's a lot, too. Right? Because now, first of all, the can is like this big.

SPEAKER_11 41:00

It's pretty big, yeah. You feel me? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

It has a handle.

SPEAKER_11 41:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

Where you like, like literally scoop it like this, like into your and just compress it. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_08 41:09

So okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

And it also has a safety thing that you gotta take off.

SPEAKER_08 41:13

Right. Like a whole gun.

SPEAKER_04 41:15

So now, but hold on. If you arguing with me and I take this big can out, right? First of all, you gotta be on point already. Yeah. Because whoa, what's that?

SPEAKER_08 41:27

Yeah, right, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Then I take the the safety thing is like orange. So take that shit off. It's like, hold on, sis, time out.

SPEAKER_10 41:35

Yeah. But you ain't see none of that in the in the end. You just saw it come out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_09 41:41

I just seen the videos.

SPEAKER_10 41:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 41:42

Suki attacked her first and then boom, did that. So I don't think it was self-defense. I think it was malicious. I don't think it was self-defense. It'd be one thing if Gretch was attacking her.

SPEAKER_04 41:51

Did she get a little beat up when she attacked? Who? Suki?

SPEAKER_09 41:55

No, she attacked Gretch from behind. All right. So fuck it.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

It's beef. Like in the street, it's beef though, right? A lot of people be like, oh, hey, look.

SPEAKER_09 42:04

I think it's just Suki was.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

Down out to 50. If you beef with 50, it's forever. Right? So certain people, certain people like, bitch, you kept fucking with me too much. Yeah. So now I gotta just really do to you. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_10 42:19

Yeah, that's so funny because you mentioned that we did see you again. That's how we got reconnected through um that Jocelyn event. And I was I was talking to Tiana, bro.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Fuck it, Greg.

SPEAKER_10 42:33

I was like, bro, I was like, how on earth did you manage to keep a straight face? Because, bro, the whole time I was ganged, okay?

SPEAKER_09 42:43

I was just a bunch of dicks. So how did you how did you manage?

SPEAKER_04 42:48

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 42:49

Exactly. Tell us about that experience.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

A bunch of men. Like, listen, not knocking the hustle. They good. You feel me? I met a lot of them that night. It was mad cool. Um, we went out after that shit. It was like, yo, mad, yo, vibe, like crazy. You feel me? Like, they mad, cool. Like, you know, it was cool to like experience, you know, like that like life now as a male. Like, you know, because it's like, yeah, I've been around the girl strippers, like in the girl, and the girl strip clubs and all that shit. Right, right, right. These motherfuckers is doing this shit like as females, you feel me? Like, you know, like they out there doing shit, they doing like you feel me. But and it's like, yo, like, like I told a lot of them, like, yo, y'all.

SPEAKER_06 43:38

Get to the bag, y'all get into the bag.

SPEAKER_04 43:42

But I'm a fat nigga, so I can't.

SPEAKER_09 43:45

Yo, so if you if you were like fit like them in that state, I probably did.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

You would see it.

SPEAKER_04 43:56

That's the that's still lit.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

But most of them are like.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

Like I can't I I can't see myself doing it because like I have two daughters and I got one son, so it's like which gets me to another thing. Like a lot of these people that are like reality TV doing all this wild shit, like y'all not thinking about y'all kids at all.

SPEAKER_03 44:15

Some of them be mothers and all that.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

The trauma that, like, first of all, we live in a world where like bullying is real in the school system. Oh, yeah, millions. Like that shit is fucking like real, real. And you don't think like, hey, I seen your mom's titties.

SPEAKER_11 44:33

Yeah. You know, yeah, it's like you know, it's like it's tough.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

It's like, damn, like, yo, if you're a famous person, you're you're in a category of you know, you live in a nice area, you're gonna live in an area where there's a lot of different races, and you know, those other parents is also gonna be judgmental. Of course.

SPEAKER_06 44:54

Hey mom, I wanna have little Bobby over.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Oh, little Bobby's mom, the stripper.

SPEAKER_09 45:00

Oh, yes, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

So it's like you know, it's like it sucks too because it's like that's what they love, you know. That that's what they like to do. You know, it's the reality TV, the right bitch, don't fuck with me, or I'm gonna punch you in your face. Like the T might slip out, and I was a stripper on TV, you know, but like it's cool to like to know that like you did it before and now you're not on that life. So like you're still continuing it.

SPEAKER_10 45:29

Learn when to let it go.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

And then it's like the kids got like nobody likes to think about the kids until it's too late.

SPEAKER_10 45:36

Yes, till it's too late.

SPEAKER_04 45:37

It's too late.

SPEAKER_10 45:38

The trauma's already done.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

It's done because like now this kid is going up to like everybody saying my mama was a hoe. You know, it's true, and then like you having a daughter, she's gonna think, like, well, my mama was a hoe. Right, my mama got me all of this because she was a hoe.

SPEAKER_10 45:58

Right. No, it's true.

SPEAKER_04 46:00

So now I'm gonna be a hoe. Like, because the truth, like, nobody wanna say the truth. Like, it's like, bro, like, if you if you out here hoeing and you got a son, he's gonna see it as like, well, yeah, this is how I'm gonna treat these bitches like 100%. Yeah, you gotta go make this motherfucking money, bitch. Right.

SPEAKER_10 46:17

Yep. No, it's true. It's repeating the trauma.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

So it's like a lot of a lot of people want to say, like, oh, like, oh, don't talk about my kid. Right.

SPEAKER_06 46:27

Bitch, what kind of example are you to your kid? Facts.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

What example are you to your kid, really? Like, no, it's so like and again, like, don't hate me, guys. I'm not knocking your hustle, like, it's cool, but like, you could be out on a on a reality TV and not get too crazy. Like, some, you know, you know what's so crazy that somebody I I got the pleasure on meeting because of baddies, that like I'm really proud of her. And this um Sky, the tattoo artist from Bro, she used to be yeah, like yeah, she still got her little moments, but bro, Sky from Black Ink used to be fucking wild.

SPEAKER_06 47:10

And I used to love that shit. Like, yes, bitch, don't let them play with you. Like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_04 47:16

But look at her now, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:18

You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Like, yeah, she has her moments where, like, all right, bitch, like you feel me, but like that's growth, bro.

SPEAKER_10 47:25

Yeah, yeah, real growth, because even being put in that environment on baddie, she didn't come out of control.

SPEAKER_04 47:30

She didn't, she didn't continue it, right? You know, like right, and you know, that's part of the growth, you know, is like she's thinking about down the line, you know. Yeah, it's funny. I just feel like a lot of them don't really think about like down the line.

SPEAKER_10 47:42

It's funny because there is uh Tommy Lee who literally came onto a part of the show and was like, oh, I don't want, I want, I want to stop embarrassing my teenage daughter who's graduating high school. But then it's funny because she repeated exactly what she said she wasn't gonna do.

SPEAKER_04 47:59

You know, and it's like that's what really sucks too. And it goes back to the point where like you're not really thinking about the kids, right? You know, y'all thinking about this bag, yes, which like it's not forever, right?

SPEAKER_08 48:11

Period.

SPEAKER_04 48:12

It's getting jacked up. Shit is not forever, like tomorrow, like you know, god forbid tomorrow, like something could happen, and the owners of zoos be like, yo, that's it, we can't do this no more and shut down the whole network. Yeah, you feel me? And now, what are y'all really gonna do? Right, y'all gonna go get a regular job, yeah. So where I'm gonna walk in, try to get insurance from you, but I seen your whole body.

SPEAKER_08 48:34

Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 48:40

Go get stay form insurance, shit. You feel me? Like, it's not you're not gonna be able to live a regular life.

SPEAKER_04 48:48

Like, you're gonna have to like try to keep doing that embarrassment. Because now, also I noticed is that if you start off embarrassing yourself and you try to go serious, that's it. Yeah, people are gonna stop fucking with you, you're acting funny, yeah, uh-uh-uh. You letting the money get to you. Uh-uh. So now you use basically you fuck.

SPEAKER_10 49:10

But then it's like they then then they use the example of how, well, look at Krishan Rock. She's still doing and getting her bag and people endorsing her, right? Like, but she's still embarrassing herself. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

So to use that as an example, it goes back to like, bro, y'all really not thinking. Because like Sean, like, I think I met her like twice. Like, and it's like you see the potential in a lot of these people, you know? Like, you see the potential, and it's like, it's like sometimes they just fuck their own life up, like with the choices they just be making, and it's like, sis, like right.

SPEAKER_10 49:49

But uh like what I guess when I mention her as an example, like yeah, like blue face on her face, they was calling her Bluetooth at the time.

SPEAKER_04 50:00

Like, that she was wild, you feel me? Yeah, like bro, she's like, she's fire, like yeah, she always was fire, like that's what I've been saying about like a lot of these girls is like, bro, y'all mad fire. Like, yeah, I do not have to. There is so many other shit y'all could be doing that is not this, it's a mentality, you know. And it's like, but it is. I also feel like it's just so easy, yeah. It is just too easy, easy money. It's not only that, but it's just too easy now to go viral, right? You feel me? It's too easy now to like to do anything, like you know, like, and not to sound fucked up, but as a female, it's so much easier because you go on your Instagram and start modeling different bikinis every day, pretty privileged, and working out, yeah, fucking doing some body shit, yeah, cooking, some regular shit, cooking while you have naked, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:55

Y'all wanna see me half naked cooking? I don't think so. Nah, I'm good, but some girls got a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

I got a little, yeah, you know, the little apron shit. You got a little six pack shit.

SPEAKER_06 51:07

I mean, I think that's apron on you.

SPEAKER_04 51:12

Y'all don't want to see me on Instagram doing that shit. Like, you feel me? Like, these girls go on the shit. Like, there's some girl, like she be fucking putting the honey buns and making like bacon, egg, and cheese, putting sour cream, like, bro. What are you doing? Like how do you have millions?

SPEAKER_06 51:31

And like she's going viral.

SPEAKER_09 51:33

Like, is she eating it or is she just okay? That's why. Yeah, crazy outlandish shit.

SPEAKER_04 51:38

I'm just like, bro, it's so much easier for a female definitely to go viral than a guy.

SPEAKER_09 51:43

Yeah. Because it's like, yeah, it's easy. So switching gears a little bad. Okay, I have a quick question. So, like, who's the most professional celebrity you worked with?

SPEAKER_04 51:58

Most professional.

SPEAKER_09 51:59

The most professional.

SPEAKER_04 52:01

So I'm gonna put it like this, right?

SPEAKER_09 52:03

You're not gonna say no names?

SPEAKER_04 52:04

I'll I'll say a couple names. Okay. I'll say a couple names. In like the ratchet world, okay, I'm gonna put it like this. In the ratchet world, like, you know, like Natalie, for example, like, you know, she she got the vision, you know. She a lot of people don't have that, like, you know, she knows, like, and when I say like she got the vision with like not only with like the context she's creating, but like she got the vision with like the crowd. You know, she sure does. So, you know, she she knows how to feed off that that energy from that's why like I feel like the baddies is gonna keep going for a while. Yeah, you know, because as long as she doesn't lose that like that that hunger and shit, like you know, it's like she she she got it, you know, like in the ratchet like Jocelyn. Like Jocelyn, like she got her own network now, like you know. So you know, I know what they beefing or some shit, right? I don't need to put y'all together, but but you know, people like that, you know, like Jocelyn, like, you know, like for all right, so to put why I picked them as two perfect examples, because like, you know, where they came from. You know, there were just two girls that got an opportunity on a show and look where they at today.

SPEAKER_10 53:19

They made something of this, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:21

You know, there's people that started on shows with them. And they're not even, they're not even you see them in the street and you don't even recognize them, you know? So they took that, they took that, they they fed it, and they grew it, you know. You know, like say what you want about them. You might hate them, you might love them, you might, oh, she's acting funny, but uh she got a vision, they both had a vision, and they doing it, you know? Jocelyn this, you know how many shit I used to hear about? Jocelyn and Natalie, yeah, but like y'all hanging on these females then.

SPEAKER_10 54:00

Right. They they chillin', right? They don't even know your name, right?

SPEAKER_03 54:05

Right.

SPEAKER_10 54:05

They worked hard.

SPEAKER_04 54:06

Like when people be like, especially on like online talking shit, it's like, bro.

SPEAKER_10 54:11

You can never.

SPEAKER_04 54:12

Come on, bro. Right. Y'all can't, like, y'all can't compare your success to them because it's like, again, they turned this shit, they took it, yeah, and said, I'm gonna go on top. Right. You feel me? Like, that's why when I did that event with Jocelyn, I found out that she was getting her own network. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, ain't nobody like, come on, bro. Like her own network, like, yeah, doesn't you can't just go and to the office and be like, I want a network. Yeah, yeah, no. And they're just gonna give it to you. Like, yes, yeah, yeah. Clearly, you know, she's been working hard, yeah. You know, she she did her thing, you know. Like, because nobody fucking Natalie leaves Zeus tomorrow and starts her own shit. They're gonna give it to her. Yeah, you know, they're gonna give it to her, you know. But we can't go and say we're gonna start a network for the podcast. They're gonna be like that, yeah. We know that. We owe it up. For example, right? But for example, I can't take my company and go into fucking Zeus Network and be like, yeah, replace all your guys with my company. Right, yes, yes, like, yeah, I'm building my shit up, but like I can't just step into the big dope. Like, yeah, everywhere everywhere I go, I represent my company as a as myself. Because like, like I am my company, like so. I always represent, I always got a patch or whatever, like you know. So it's like you you build there. A lot of people don't don't take that shit and build with it.

SPEAKER_10 55:44

It's so funny that you mentioned that because going back to that event with Natalie and the after party, the Cardi B thing that we went to, she had brought uh one of the newer baddies, uh Cold Killer, yes. And we were talking cold killer, cold killer, yes.

SPEAKER_04 55:59

I hope nobody fuck with her.

SPEAKER_09 56:00

She's yeah, she's you know what do you know about cold killer?

SPEAKER_04 56:04

I don't have to know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_09 56:06

The name is crazy. Cold killer? Yeah, no girl.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Who are you beefing with today? Cold killer.

SPEAKER_10 56:14

What? The the point of me mentioning that was because when we talked about it, we're saying how Natalie at her age, she's older than all of us, like is was working the shit out of that crowd. She was engaging, she was talking to everybody, performing her shit. Bro, when I tell you the energy was on a million, and then you look at Coquilla, which is a newer baddie, she's uh by the wall, she's having fun, but very mellow, not interacting, not interacting, and it's just like going back to what you were saying, right? That energy. Natalie knows how to work that energy, and she really makes it like it's incredible. These people really look at her like, yo, you're my CEO.

SPEAKER_04 56:54

Yeah, like also to throw somebody else in there, somebody throws is Christian, like we said earlier. Like, you know, she yeah, she's had her fuck ups and all that, but she up. She built herself, you know.

SPEAKER_10 57:05

I don't know about that one, bro. I was a badass. Nah, you don't think she built herself? Bro, not with that baby next to her, bro. You gotta that's you the whole blue phase and her thing was just nah, bro. You can't use Chris, she ain't building herself up until she gets that baby some help.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

Then I'll start saying, like, I'm not even like, you see, you're right. Let me let me say, because I'm not into that crazy world, like you know. So like I know I used to see like the shit with the baby and shit, but like, damn, yeah. I thought when I used to see this was like a year or two ago, I thought she got her shit together.

SPEAKER_10 57:38

Like, no, she she she panders towards the religious shit now, but I just don't believe it until you get your baby together. You can't tell me you're a woman of God and they're neglecting that. Right.

SPEAKER_09 57:53

Right. I'm fucking I'm pregnant, I'm still doing this and that. Yes, yes. Facts. Some people really are still stuck in that mentality, though. Like going back to what you were saying earlier, how people go up, but then they still bring in a bros with them from when it was five, and then they're bringing them down.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

Yeah, they're not.

SPEAKER_09 58:10

Right, right. It's that mentality, man. So the for the ratchet world, boom, that's that. What about the the A-list celebrity type?

SPEAKER_04 58:18

Like Rihanna, Megan Stalin, like wow, yeah, like Rihanna, like look at Rihanna.

SPEAKER_09 58:22

That was the most professional.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

I mean, I've like I've been around like I've been around Meg and all that. You know, she always has a lot of people around, like, you know, the Meg slander, the Tory Lane thing, like, you know, it's like they they just seeing the negative right now, I feel like. But like, you know, Meg, I've been to like so many Meg De Stallion fundraisers that she's done. Really? You know, like she's like, I think like she's like some leaders, like some woman thing or some shit. Like, oh wow. She does a lot of like you know, with Rock Nation and shit. Like, so she's like, she gives a lot, she gives back a lot, you know. Um, the same thing with Rihanna, like Rihanna's is on a different level though. Like Rihanna's just so humble, right? Like, I feel like nothing could really affect this girl.

SPEAKER_10 59:10

Like, so tell me what you think about that shit that happened with uh like her getting attacked, her house.

SPEAKER_04 59:16

Oh, with the crib, right? That shit is crazy. But again, right? Like when I first started, you don't know people's talent. True. Like, what if this lady orders some Fendi shit from her website or some shit and she didn't get it or some shit. She's like, I know where she lives, I'm gonna shoot her house up, like yeah, because like Rihanna, like you shot out Rihanna. Or what?

SPEAKER_09 59:38

Right, yeah, yeah. And where was security?

SPEAKER_04 59:42

I I don't think they have like home security though.

SPEAKER_10 59:45

Really? No, I think it's just the gated community.

SPEAKER_04 59:48

So the security's at the gate, probably, yeah. Like but again, a gate security guy.

SPEAKER_10 59:53

What are they paying for?

SPEAKER_04 59:54

A gate security guard probably making $17, $16 an hour. He probably old as hell.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:00

You really think in front of Rihanna's house, the gate security guards making $17.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

An hour? Don't mean they're gonna upgrade the security guard. You still got regular people living there? He said this is America. What's his name? Um the Jack Reacher dude, Alan, whatever. He beat up his neighbor.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:20

That was a regular name. You didn't see him. No, I did not see it. You know Jack Reacher? Nope. The actor? Okay, see, I don't I'm not good with actors' names.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:27

He's he uh Jack Reacher.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:29

Yeah, look at the case. Edgar Allan Poe. No, let me stop. What's his name? Greg Reacher.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

No, Jack Reacher. Jack Reacher.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:44

I used to watch, I it's crazy because I used to watch him at Blue Mountain.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:48

Oh, I've seen him.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:49

Yes, him. So he just had a situation with his neighbor.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:53

No, I don't need to know.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:54

In his dated community.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:56

Why?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:56

And he beat the shut out his neighbor.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:58

Why?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Because, first of all, uh, what what they calling the male Karen's? Yo. Kevins?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:06

Kevins?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:06

Is that what they're calling?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:07

Or are they calling him Darren's?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Some shit. Something. But they got the male name for Karen now. Okay. So male Karen was talking about that he was going around the community, like revving the bikes loud and all that shit. So like he jumped in front of the bike while he was riding with like his kids and shit. In front of Jack's bike. Yeah, he fell over and like he was arguing with him and shit, and like ended up fucking him up. And then the guy flipped a story. So the first story that came out was like uh actor Jack Reacher fucking beats the shit out of this guy, and then like the guys like on TMZ, like, oh my god, this guy's but then what he fucked up was he had the body camera on him the whole time. Damn, so you know you he's he's a multi-million dollar guy living in a community with regular people. Yes, so just because uh a celebrity lives there, trust me, they are not you know that's a valid point.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:10

I'll be damn you jumping in front of my shit, and this is where I live, and I'm paying my good, good, good hard earning fucking money, and I'm with my kids. Get the fuck out.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:17

You feel me? And then you here because you hate your life today, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:21

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:24

Go back into your fucking breath. Big ass.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:30

Wife hates them probably, like out there fucking the the the office nerd.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:35

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:36

Hates his life. Like because you're miserable, you can't leave people alone. I always say this shit. Leave people alone.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:43

So now that you're talking about the actor and the acting, I saw you did a little bit of acting, you was on CBS or whatever. What was that about?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:52

Shout out to Donnie Wahlberg. Not to get to like the actors most humbling motherfucker I've met. Donnie Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:00

Like, man, God bless that man. Um, you know, he I used to do um the security at Blue Blush for a while, and um, you know, I got cool with like the directors and the writers and all that, and um it gave me a couple opportunities, you know. So I was blessed. And you know, I actually got a scene with Donnie Wilburn. Um, so you know, it's it's cool.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:23

Is there like a uh like a thing you do before the camera's going, like a routine to get you loosened up before? Or are you just always ready?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

So, like, for example, like the scene that like is on my Instagram where the thugs beating up the cops.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:38

Yes, I've seen that.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:39

So a lot of like my friends and shit is like, yeah, these people just don't know they're just just you're being yourself. You know, so it's like it was always like kind of cool because like I got like the thug role. Yeah, so it was like I'm just like I'm just here. Perfect, doing it there. In like the scene with Donnie, I was like security guard to like the big drug dealer. Right. So like when he came in, like I'm just staring him down and like he keeps staring at me, like you know. So it was cool because like that whole like even the whole like staring thing, like, you know, that wasn't part of the the script.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:16

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:16

You know, he made it made sure that like you know, he looked back at me so the camera could like catch me. So you know, he's that's Matt Humbling, you know. I've worked with I've worked around actors that like pieces of shit. Oh sure. So it's like that let you could tell just let the shit, the fame and all that shit get to them.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

And then you know, you just you you do get blessed when you're working on a big production where you see different, you know, famous people, yeah, people upcoming, and like, you know, so you don't you don't really let like that one bad apple fuck it up. But then like if you are assigned to that bad one apple, it sucks. Long day, you know, like and then you get like the people that like, oh you got her, she's such a bad thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

All the inside talk. And then like it's like you start to meet them, and it's like she not that bad. Yeah, like she's just she just wants shit done like this. Like, you just want this done. Like you know, like a lot of people like have that ego where like I gotta get this bitch coffee again.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:24

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

Yes, sis, but this is what you signed up for. And if you want to make it to like all them big directors, they just didn't wake up one day and picked up a pen. And like a lot of them, like in that industry, you gotta start as a PA, which is personal assistants. So you that's where a lot of them start. Like, I've been around mad writers and and directors that are top, like even Kim Kardashi with Paris Hilton.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:49

She was her assistant. Get her coffee.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:51

Like I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:53

That's how she got, you know, she was starting off as a personal assistant.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

You see, so it's like, you know, a lot of people's ego. Also, don't let them get there. And a lot of these actors, egos that like either came from nothing or already was something. Once they get to like this ego shit, I hate that shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:10

It's like, bro, you gotta be so humble.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:12

Like, I hate actors that be like, oh, um, I don't want no pictures. I don't want to see nobody. Bro, you are who you are because of this. Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:20

Right. Right. No, facts. Facts. I be getting tired when they don't interact with fans. Like, these are the people that don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

Don't get me wrong, like, yeah, it there's a bad, like.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:33

We get it if you have bad days.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:34

Like, look, like, for example, we we we on a film shit and we left at two in the morning, but tomorrow scene, it gotta be a bright early scene. So you gotta be there 7a in the morning.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:45

That's why I can't do that acting live. You know, you upset.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

You, you know, a lot of these people have the the kids at home, you know, missing out on a lot of shit. You upset. But these fans and all that, like I get it, trust me. Like, especially in what I do, there's some crazy motherfuckers out there. I've heard people scream things at people that I just be like, miss. I argued with a lady one time because I was working with Dexter Dabs and she wore and begged that she wanted a picture with Dexter Dabs for her daughter. I said, cool. Kept begging, kept begging. He wasn't really feeling it at the moment. So I was like, miss, like I can't right now. Like I asked, he's not feeling it right now. Come on, it's for me and my daughter. Then I got upset. Miss, you know damn well your daughter does not want no motherfucking picture with you with Dexter Daps. Right. She does not want that, bro. Right. She does not what she's gonna show her. Oh, look, my mom was with Dexter Daps.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:49

No, like I'm crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:51

I'm sure. What's the craziest fan base you've done like security for? So clearly you would have to say who it is and their fan base.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:00

Let's see. The baddies, clearly, all them baddies. Yeah, that's really wild. When we was with Rihanna and ASAP, that shit was wild. That ASAP shit was wild.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:18

So that's the that's the craziest.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:19

Like, but but it was like, because you know, it's the venue and shit, but like when I be with like Rock Nation and shit, that'd be wild. Yeah, but I feel like it's just like you know, like I've always caught myself with like so many big people that like you know, like I've done like I don't know if y'all know Mr. Papers.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:40

Yes, yes, that's the rapper, right? Uh baby father, like oh god, I knew he was a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:44

Oh yeah, but yeah, the baby father, no? Yeah, like you know, he got his fan base, you know, they're not as crazy, they're a bunch of females, right? You know, but like you know, I think he's doing like some show shit now, so which is good. Um but like everybody just has that like like who would you say is the craziest? Craziest. The craziest but like but craziest with fans, or like they're even crazy too, like fans, just fans.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:13

Like what's it like? Think about the time that the the craziest thing that a fan wanted or did that you experienced, and then whoever they were there for, that would be y'all know who Akalan is? Yes, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:28

Wow, we had a lady chase us, no out the sunroof with her pussy showing.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:35

No screaming at our car saying, Akalon, I just want to show you how wet our pussy is going down Jersey, like that block over from Jersey Shore, like the Jersey boar walk.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:50

Why?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:50

She chased us down.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

She was on the sunroof. Oh my god, that is crazy. Like showing her pussy that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:03

And you want to know what the best part was? She was following the wrong car.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:08

No, that's the worst part.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:13

Because he was in the car ahead.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:17

That is that's a good story. That's a good story.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:21

She was showing me and three other security guards her pussy and the Java.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:26

Yeah, that's hysterical.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:28

Like, there's fans, like, there's fans that like I've seen people like when we was doing um, I think that was the last year of Izu in um Randall's Island. Yeah, people are like jumping off shit to swim behind. Yo, there were people that's like, listen to this. This is true facts, right? Uh I don't remember what festival it was, but it was at Randall's Island. And there was an ad on Craigless that if you, you know, across on um the fucking what how it FDR by the BJs and shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:09

There's like a little bridge.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:11

They had an ad on Craigless that if you meet people over there for $50, they was getting you on the Jeski and crossing you over. And that and when it was crossing over, that was the backstage.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:24

No set of stages.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:26

Way people do create yo, people do crazy shit. We've had people we've had people like I've worked concerts and shit that like they'll give us like the camera camouflage shits. Yeah, yeah. We've had people buy these vests or steal them. Like, you know, if you're a security guard, you're like, take it off real quick to go to the bathroom or whatever, and you think people will steal your vest or go buy one and pull up to the event like that. And pretend like they security.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:54

That's cool. Like they stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:58

But I was real people, you know, people that's crazy. I've seen people get into venues crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:04

It's funny because I I remember once in 2013 we went to I went to Ultra Music Festival, and it was like the last year that Swedish House Mafia was ever gonna play together. And it was two weekends, but I went on the last weekend, so it was the biggest weekend of them all. It was the biggest day. Everyone sold out so much so that people were trying to get in the same day. They weren't letting them in. So now comes the nighttime when they're about to be the last, the last show. Bro, I kid you not, it was a scene from the movie. I couldn't even get close to the main stage. We had to go all the way up the hill to see the stage, and people were on the trees, people were on the branches, on the poles. But then the craziest part was I looked to the back. This whole thing has like the porter potties and gates. People were running, climbing the gate, hopping on the roof of the porter potty, jumping into the venue to the point where there was mad people doing it, they couldn't stop it. That is outrageous.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:59

It was insane. I heard rolling loud that Kanye was performing at in Cali. That shit was wild. I can't imagine. They had the the area where he was supposed to perform at was closed off while they were prepping for the show. When they opened that shit, so like a lot of those concerts are set up, like, you know, they have different the different stages. Yes. And then, you know, you you have a list of artists here, whatever, whatever. Yeah. So you know, you at another stage chilling, watching, but you gotta make sure you know what time that stage is gonna open, so you can try to get you know, like the amount of people that was like getting ran over.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:35

That is outrageous.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:37

To try to get good seats, like not even good seats, yes, a good place. Yeah, there's this one thing that I used to always like blow minds, like a lot of people want to, this is the gate, they want to be right here. Yeah, that's dangerous. Everybody is pushing, you are cooked. Yes, and it'd be the littlest people in the time to be doing it. I used to do that when I was younger.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:01

When I was younger, I couldn't do that no more.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:04

I be, I always, like when I be woke, I always make sure I love like yo, you okay? Like you need help, like because a lot of people just be so lit. And another thing, guys, please, like, when you go to these concerts, these like four or five day concerts and shit, focus on eating, focus on the water.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:22

Come on, bro. You know we doing you doing drugs.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:24

Like, yeah, like bro, a lot of these people, like a lot of these people go to sleep at 3-4 in the morning and wake up to more alcohol and to just go.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:32

I used to do that all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:33

Bro, y'all gotta put something in your stomach because that sun and the noise and the lights and the the drugs don't make you hungry.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:44

Telling you, and then your jaws hurt from being little day the night before.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

Now I'm gonna add you to this category because I hate the people that be like, yeah, he lost mad weight, or she lost mad weight because she smokes mad weed.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:58

They say that smoke mad weed.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:03

I heard you get the munchies off weed, so but a lot of people don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

Then my boy one day, he did give me a good theory. Is yeah, because they had the $10, $20 to get high and buy the roll-up, but that's all they have.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:20

They ain't got no more money.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:22

I can't see myself starving myself.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:24

I was gonna say you know, I used to be I used to be skinnier, and I made the joke, you know, why I'm so skinny. The the best diet is being broke. Because you really can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:34

You can't, broke.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

Now, no, yeah, and then like a lot of people like be fake broke, and it's like, nah, I'd rather get high. That's true, that's true. Like, yo, when I used to work at the dispensary, like how many people were like, so like when you pay with your card at a dispensary, you know, they charge you with the city. ATM, yeah, it's an ATM system or whatever. Yo, you don't know how many people I would see like calculate shit. Wow, I can imagine. I'd just be like, wow, that's like people that's really like yo. Like, I used to like I used to like throw away mad like fucking receipts from our ATM, and you'll see like people like with like 23 cents left.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. $3 left.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:15

Like, damn, you just took out your last 30 to get high.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:21

Damn, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

You gotta just stop after that. Like if you catch yourself on that, you gotta stop.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:26

For real, yeah. Thank you so much for just telling us all the shit you've been telling us. We had such a great, you did. You really did. What's one thing you want people to be aware of when it comes to the industry?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Definitely always be on point.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:42

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:43

Like, always watch your surroundings, okay. Watch the energy, the the movements, the shoulders, the fingers.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:52

People be fake, people be fake.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:53

Yeah, like you gotta watch every day. Like, you never know. It's like like I've seen I've seen security guards like backstab other security guards, like, you know, until like the sense of like they'll take another another opportunity away, whether it's like taking less money for a venue or like hitting the the person up on the side, like, you know. And it's like wow a lot of like I've been in situations myself where like let's say like you're a security guard and you hit me up to work with somebody or whatever, and I've had like that person, I guess, hit you up and you didn't respond or you wasn't available, and they've like hit me up. You feel me? And like I feel like a lot of guards get bad about that shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:38

But it's like you didn't hit you didn't respond.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:42

I didn't I didn't reach out like yo, yeah, you have to need security guards, like you know, like when the opportunity comes, like you know, like sometimes you just gotta just take it. Like you feel me, like, yeah, you might be my boy and all of that, but clearly this motherfucker wasn't fucking with you or you wasn't available, or you know, whatever. I ain't doing shit, and this is an opportunity for me to even grow more. Like I'm not sitting here and taking your client, like, but it happens, but there's people that like you know will reach out to your clients, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:14

Like, yo, like try to steal the clients, you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:16

That's wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:17

Like somebody might like, yo, yeah, I got some realty for y'all. I'll be the next security guard, like, and then that motherfucker be out here really spilling some shit that like now you in trouble. Like, you know, like because it's like a lot of I've no, I know people that like sign ADAs and stuff like that. Yeah, that's another thing, yeah. And like don't even follow through the shit. Really? That's outrageous. Like, yeah, like for certain things, like you could still talk about it, but not talk about it. Right. You get what I'm saying? 100%. Like, you know, you could say a little certain things that like not breaking that contract, you know, or like just that ass, like, yo, bro, if you just really respect me as a person, like you should know that I can't talk about this and just leave it at that. Yes, yes, yes. But there's a lot of people also that man loud mouth, like, yo, I was with so and so, you won't believe what the fuck I see. This motherfucker was wrong. She's more like, damn, bro, like these people are like trusting you, right? You feel me? A lot of like like I've had I've had a lot of situations where like, damn, this person really does like fuck with me, you know, like trustes me. Like, you know, like it's like I can imagine. Like, you know, it's like, okay, like cool, like, you know, like dream girl, dream doll, that's my girl right there. Like, oh yeah, that's your girl, you know, like she cool, like, you know. I got there's people that left me in their crib. Wow. There's people that's like, yo, my wife is going out there with her friends. Like, can you take care of them? Like, I love them. You know, so it's like for people to reach out for that, you know, you know that like there's trust, they trust. There's that trust because it's like Sam, that's cool.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:58

That's important.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:59

Sending my wife and her friends, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, it's like, but a lot of people, a lot of security guards can't say that. You know, there's security guards that like sit by their phone every day waiting for a call to see where they're going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:14

And I've seen it, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:15

Like they like, oh, you work tonight, or I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:19

You get me?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:20

So it's like those are the guys sometimes that like nobody really they're not really fucking with you.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:27

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:28

I was telling her earlier that I I've like recommended y'all pays because I'll let people know, like, yo, they the TMZ of the Zeus shit. Like, yo, that's crazy. Y'all be everywhere. Y'all we really be outside. Like, like, yo, they they be heading the inside scoops.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:47

Yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:50

No, and then that day, that day that I seen y'all at the Johnson shit, I like I peeped y'all a couple times. Like, y'all was, you know, y'all was doing y'all thing. I was working and shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:57

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:57

And then y'all respectful. So y'all like there's a lot of like podcast people or like even respectful photographers, they're like, bro, stop being a nuisance, bro. Like they said no, stop. A lot of these people don't understand that like you might ask now and it might be a no. But later on, you know, maybe at the end of the night, that person gonna give you them pictures in that interview or whatever, whatever.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:23

You never know. You never know. Like, just be humble.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:25

And and leave the security guards, guys. We like I'm not nobody to tell you what to do. Yeah, I'm here to for you to tell me what to do. What the fuck do I look like? Yo, this person wants to have it too. Now you're gonna look at me like, bro, am I paying you or are they paying you? Like, are you with me or are you with them? Like, because that's a valid thing. You had the time to do that, now your guard is down. Because what if that was the point of yeah, can I get this interview up so I could kill this motherfucker?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:59

Yeah, exactly. No, yeah, exactly. You see, this is what bothers me too, because I feel like people like that mess it up for people like uh, right? Because we're like respectful, we're not on no weird shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:10

For example, uh, my boy JP Photography, he works for like Getty Images.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:15

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:16

You feel me? So him and like I know a couple other paparazzi dudes. They mad cool. You know, you can have a conversation with him, like this dude JP. Like, you know, a lot of people might say he's a nuisance and shit, but he does his job to a lot of people. I feel like a lot of people hate him because he's so good with the actors. And like so many actors is like, nah, yeah, JP, come on, like take this picture, like, yeah, yeah. He gets like these shots, but then like I've dealt with paparazzi's where it's like, bro, you're really gonna make us hurt you, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not gonna be good, bro. They're disrespectful. A lot of them is like that, and also a lot of them, that's what they're waiting for. Yeah, but one of us to put it on. To put our hands on them, now you're gonna come and sue us and sue the person we was with, yeah, make a storyline out of it. You feel me? So, like, you're not getting me. Yeah, but I might talk shit and all of that sometimes, but I'm not gonna come out because I know what I could lose.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:18

Yeah, exactly. You're professional.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:20

But for you to come out your house and act like this every fucking day. Yeah. And you know what's so funny? I've seen so many people that would talk shit, like would like talk shit to me on the street while I'm working or whatever.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:35

And I'll be on a regular day driving down the street, walking the street or some shit. And I've seen so many of these motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:44

Wow, and they didn't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:45

And they do some don't even realize as me. Wow. Right. You feel me? A lot of them is like, I just be looking like, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:55

You said I was on site.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

I've been working at places that a photographer gets like, damn, how life is turning out, brother. Are you a photographer that got hired by the venue? Oh no, you didn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:12

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:17

Damn. You could get in, but the camera can't come in.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:26

They only want photographers that are hired by the venue. Sorry. So it's like, bro, just be humble. Like it's always about humbleness. Like, somebody else is always doing their job. 100%. You feel me? Like somebody's always doing a job, bro. Like, like how I tell people, like, when oh, security on dick, bro. You think I give a fuck?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:48

Like, there's no smoking in here, bro. I wish there was smoking in here. Right. So I can get hot in here. Like, the fuck you think I give a fuck about this, bro?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:57

I'm not just here because I'm bored telling you to not smoke in here, bro. Right, right. You wasting my vocal codes, bro. Like, vocal cords. Like, stop smoking. Right. Stop smoking. Right. Stop. No, bro. It's not my rule. Right. It's not my rule. Go outside real quick. Right. And then come back in, right? And if you really can't be outside like that, then don't go. Don't be outside. I actually can't smoke in here. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:22

You did.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:23

And now I know. You see? I gotta smoke my shit before I get here.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:28

And you had your little drink before the Eddie before I came in. You look really about you look so like.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:42

Yo smelling like a pound. Now y'all like, yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:54

Alright, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:57

If you can't be somewhere without no weed, like, or just don't go. Whatever.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:02

Or just be professional, right? Like, you know what I mean? That's why Bernaboy didn't go to Dubai. He didn't perform in Dubai because he said he wants his weed. He turned it down just because he wants to smoke. So that's his choice. That's it. Facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

You see? I guess he got it to deny a bag like that. A bag?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he got it like that to deny to buy money.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:31

Hey, listen, shout out to my Africans.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:33

Yeah, because you could be like that basketball player.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:36

Africans got money. Like I'm bagged in Egypt.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:42

Grinder.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:43

Russia.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:44

Yeah, it was like something grinding. It was uh it was no no her name is like something grinding. Oh Brittany, Brittany, Brittany. Yes, yes, yes. And the shit wasn't even hers. I think it was like her girlfriend's. Oh, which is even worse. It was like a a wee pen.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:58

A wee pen, yeah. And it was in it was like a point to five. Yes, yes, it wasn't even like anything.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:08

What's what I'm saying? Just don't go, just don't go.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:14

Yeah, like if you can't, just don't just don't go, just don't go. Just do it.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:20

All right. Well, thank you so much. I feel like you provided so much insight for us into the world.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:25

I wish I could have no idea more, but nah, you gave us a lot. I'm broke, guys. I can't get sued. I can't get sued. I'll be a little negative for the rest of the life.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:40

We get it because you gave us, trust me, you gave us a lot. As much as you're like it, yeah. You didn't give us exact, but you gave us enough. So that's perfect. So, what's next for Hulk and Hulk services?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:51

Hulk protection, man. Me, I'm just right now I've um I've been taking like the whole little PR thing a little serious.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:59

Um I've like been serving people and stuff. So like I've been focusing that more.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:04

Oh nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:05

Um because it's more of a like steady consistent. Like and I've been focusing more on just like, you know, like the stars. Like if somebody, you know, like a Jocelyn or whatever. Like somebody like something that's worth my time. Like I don't like coming out of my house no more for less than 300, 33, 350 for a night. You feel me? I'm to the level where like I'm getting $500, $600 for a four or five hour shift. Wow, that's all right. I can't see myself going back to like the club to work for like chump change, and I'm putting my life on like not saying that I'm not putting my life out there all the time, but like in the club is more than at risk.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:45

At risk.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

Also, why I don't I like to stay away from the rappers because it's like, for example, OTJ and all set. You know how uncomfortable as a security guard that that situation is? I can't imagine. That like I'm gonna have to put my hands on another famous person right now to protect my famous.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:03

You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:04

Like or now you have like these two security guards that probably from Miami, probably under because a lot of these like um like travel agents and shit, they they will fucking have offset and little TJ under this shit, and now book the whole same security company. Oh yeah, and now you have two security guards that fuck with each other looking like that's bro. Just get your mids, I'm gonna try to get my miz. Like you feel me? That's but then now this person gonna look at you like nigga, you ain't defend me. Yeah, like what did you want me to do, bro? Right, right. Like, I seen that situation with like Clarissa Shields uh security guard and that girl she was um fighting and shit. Like, shit like that is whack. Wow, you feel me? Because like we all security, like we're supposed to have each other's back already on goal. Like you feel me? Like, nah, that's another fellow guard. You feel me?

SPEAKER_11 1:30:02

Like crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:04

A lot of these people like don't understand also the position they put us in a lot of the times, you know. Like when they want to talk crazy to somebody. Like when you're like, Yeah, you're not thinking about it. I definitely wasn't thinking like that. When you wanna, when you wanna like, like a lot of these young kids, like not kids, but like these young rappers, like wanna go and spin on their old block. Yeah, bro, not everybody is on that timing with you. Yeah, because a lot of those people, like I told y'all earlier, your friend, like your little out of your 10 friends you're telling right now, six of them motherfuckers might be like, This nigga Hulk coming. We wanna laund this nigga. 100% higher than this. Yeah, you feel me? Always looking out for so and so and so and so. And guess what?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:48

Look what happened to Nipsey Hustle.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:50

Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:50

Fucked up. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:52

But like it happens like that to a lot of them. Right.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:54

That was just a famous saying. Yo, that shit with pop smoke got me mad. I'm still mad to this day.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:00

Yeah, you know, it's like, and that's to me, that's always like situations where you're not reading the room. You got too comfortable because your man's from eight years old with you. Yeah. Why the fuck? Bringing you down. Why the fuck you were in Cali with no security? Crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:16

That's what I said with the rise he was on.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:19

Because you with your man.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:21

That makes sense. Yep, yep. I didn't even think about it like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:25

I've been thought about it like that. But your ooters from Brooklyn to Cali, where they have no gun. So are they an ooter still? Yeah. Right. And now you're going to California where a six-year-old has a gun.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:43

And in a game. The little motherfucker was born into a game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:47

Wasn't he with like the kid that got arrested was like in his teenage, right? He's a teenager.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:52

All of them were born into the game. Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:56

That's crazy. You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:57

So it's like that's why like when rap, nah, we good everywhere. You're not. Stop.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:06

Stop. Stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:08

Because it's like you you don't know. Like, you don't know what's being said behind the closed door. So true. You think you think we good. No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good because you still live in that area. Right. So when I come out there, I'm making sure I link with you. But guess what? You are not chilling with all these 20 motherfuckers. You might be chilling with six, seven of them that you know like this.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:32

Now they bring in three and four. And three and four is bringing five and six. And then out of five and six, they teamed up with nine and ten. And now they're about to get you.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:42

And she's bad at math, so you definitely lost her. It's dumb.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:45

No, no, I get it. I get it. Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. I get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:51

You know, that's always what I try to tell people. Like, bro, you gotta just always read the room.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:56

You know, I just want to say thank you for coming here. Thank you for being on the show with us. Thank you for giving us insight into the world of security, into like the world of what you could say. You know what I mean? Celebs, baddies, rappers, reality TV, you know, production life. I love that. I loved hearing and having this conversation.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:16

No, for real. It's it was really cool. It was really, it's first of all, it's nice to get to know you because obviously every time we've seen you, you've been professional and in your work, you know, working. So it's cool to like see, like again, get to know you and just ma chill, mad humble, like someone I'd actually hang out with. Right. And you could keep up with the weed, which is kind of because if she's like, No, no, she can't keep up, but I can't even.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:45

You'd be like, Yeah, I gotta smoke this plate.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:48

So, how can the people find you?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:51

So, my Instagram is Hulk H U L K underscore L E L Bodyguard.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:57

Okay. You have a website you want to tell people about?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:01

Coming soon. Come soon. Coming soon, period.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:03

So hit them up if you need all of that. Good guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:06

Anything, you know, anything.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:08

And let us know what you guys thought about this episode. I know it's definitely, I know y'all y'all love batty, so it's pretty cool to hear the security guard point of view. Yeah, to get the point of view, get the perspective.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:17

Let us know what y'all see and what we see.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:20

Two different things.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:24

I would I would say this about the show. How do y'all wake up so hate and hate each other? After going out the night before and having such a blast and wake up, y'all haven't even brushed your teeth, fix y'all, took your lashes off, and y'all ready to fight.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:41

Yup, if that's what they can't pay to do. So when you look at it from that point, they they doing their job. That's sure it is. That's all it is. So, I mean, you want to let people know where they can find you?

SPEAKER_10 1:34:53

Oh, yeah, you guys can find me on Instagram. That's J-E-S-S-I.stranger. Where can they find you, Tiana?

SPEAKER_09 1:34:58

You guys can find me on Instagram at it's.tiana lock. You guys can find us on Instagram at thepetty headquarters. You guys can find us on YouTube and all podcast platforms, as well as Patreon at the Petty Headquarters. Y'all we release episodes weekly. And you're gonna chime in on this with us. So, what we say at the end of our episodes is with that being said, this is your weekly dose of mess. So the only part you say is this was your weekly dose of mess. All right, ready? All right. Now, with that being said, this was your weekly dose of mess. When was it a good? When was it again? Your weekly dose of mess. Of mess. Okay. Can you want to practice? So, with that being said, this was your weekly dose of mess.