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Episode 16 of Baddies USA was pure chaos!! DTB and Biggie clash over the MVB title while tensions continue to build across the house. Meanwhile, Suki and Gretch’s conflict escalates in a shocking fight that involves alleged brass knuckles and security stepping in before the house can address it. 

 

Is it fair that Suki gets to mace the entire cast without repercussions? 

Did Suki leave because she didn’t want to face the rest of the cast? 

Did Gretch leave because of Suki or is there more? 

Is Natalie finally stepping into the CEO role? 

 

Tune in to this week’s dose of mess to hear our thoughts! 

 

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SPEAKER_01

Her initial reaction, why you hit her, why you got in her face, was because she calls you a. But you're online basically saying, Yeah, this is from my ancestors. You're writing the narrative of the N-word thing, because that's how everyone hates Gretsch in the media, right? But then you're sitting on a podcast with Bobby Altolf.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yo, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

You're I don't know, like I don't know, like it just it's just like you're more outraged. It's it's giving fake outrage over Gretsch. Welcome back to another episode of the Petty Headquarters. I'm your host, Tiana Lock, and this is Jesse Strange. And we are back at it again with another episode, y'all.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and if you guys are new, welcome. We're the Petty Headquarters. We covered things like pop culture, internet culture, reality TV, and baddies.

SPEAKER_01

Period. So buckle up because we're gonna get into this baddies recap. And let's just get into this week's Dose Mess.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, ma'am. So this episode. We pick up where we left off.

SPEAKER_01

Where Biggie's saying. Hold on, hold on. Well, what? Before we even get into the recap, I just wanna say this episode got me tight. Why? This episode, I'm just so over it. I don't know. What? Yes, but I guess we just gonna have to go through and you're gonna see why this episode got me so tight. Yes. I can't.

SPEAKER_03

So Biggie, we pick up where Biggie's saying she can't be recreated. Right, right. And I guess, you know, she's feeling some type of way with Biggie. I mean, with Biggie. With DTV. Yeah. And then uh Tavy starts arguing with DTB because DTB wanna fight. Because she's basically saying, like, you know, you held my hands down while when Natalie attacked me at reunion. Right, right. And Tavy's like standing on it, basically.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So basically, Tavy squares up with DTB, and then she tries to like say why she held her hands, and honestly, a cult bullshit. Like, she was really saying, I was trying to break it up. I was trying to separate y'all. I'm like, girl, please, you want to stay in Natalie's good graces. Like, we do not have to lie.

SPEAKER_03

It's showing very hard.

SPEAKER_01

It's getting a little and and that's why Fauna and then the preview was like, You you were dick riding, you dick riding, which is crazy. Yeah. Um, it's like, you know, I get it. You, you know, I feel like there's just a way to go about shit. Yes, for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_03

Tavy's just not doing so well. No, she's really not. But and it's funny because even Janelle says and like on the on the confessionals that she could tell Tavy didn't want to fight.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, she even said that she didn't want to fight. So it's like, I mean, I get that. So at this point, they're squaring up, and I'm not gonna lie, it looked like they was dancing. They were supposed to dance for a bit. I'm like, oh my god, are we gonna do this again with Killa and Tink? Like, what are we gonna do?

SPEAKER_03

It's so funny because as they're doing their little dance, it's like you you hear who was it saying work, work, work, and then twerk.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I heard that. I didn't know who that was. And I meant to like, yeah, I meant to like go back and see who it was, see whose mouth was moving, but I didn't see whose mouth was moving, so I just kind of really didn't give a fuck. So I was like, okay. Um, and then they eventually fight, they fight like twice, right? And and Tavy, you know, she she gives her, she she puts in the work.

SPEAKER_03

She does, she puts she definitely got DTB. Yeah, she did. She got one up on her for sure. For sure. But at this point, DTV's like, I'ma save my energy for Natalie because that's the bitch I got smoked with, and she not even here, right?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. So basically, Biggie yells that she was the first MVB. I don't know, I don't know if this was edited weird, but the sequence of events in this part was Biggie yelled that she was the first MVB, and then Roley decided to congratulate DTB for getting MVB twice in a row.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm wondering, like Rolly, was that a little bit of shade? You know, I feel like Roley's been was shady towards Biggie this entire episode because even when Biggie was recapping later with um with uh I forgot who else, but it was Roley was included. I think it was Scotty, or I don't remember who. But Biggie says, like, she's just talking about how DTB's a cloud chaser, and Roley just says, Well, you know, I like DTB, and it just came off weird. And even later on, and this is something I wrote in my notes, but I'm just gonna say now I feel like Roley projected what what she felt towards Biggie, towards uh to her, because she says something like, Oh, uh, she asked Scotty, do you think Biggie is jealous of DTB? And it's like, why would she be jealous of DTB? Yeah, yeah, and it's like Roley talking about Biggie being jealous, but you were jealous of Biggie when she first came about.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. It's so funny that you made that connection because I didn't even make that connection. To be honest, I didn't give a fuck. Like, I was like, I was like, that's why Scotty was like, No, I don't think she's jealous, right?

SPEAKER_03

And that's what I'm saying. Like, they're not even in the same lane, and I think that's why it's important that Biggie distinguished that because she's like, I'm not a big girl, we're not even from the same a place, the ethnicity.

SPEAKER_01

And she even mentioned that too when she does sit down with Roley and whoever else. It was Lex. Was it Lex? I can't remember. I don't think it was, I don't know who it was. I have it written down, but I don't know. But basically, she says, like, you know, she didn't feel like that towards Role when they both came in. They're both big girls, and she didn't feel no way. Yeah, Roley does say in her confession, she's like, I feel like Biggie wants me to side with her, but like I'm neutral. I'm like, and that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like Roley shows a lot of the initial jealousy you've seen towards Biggie in the beginning when Biggie first came onto baddies. Yeah, because the only one really jealous of Biggie here was Roley, right? Which made it a huge deal. Let's not forget. Because even Biggie calls out and said, I was never jealous of Roley. We were never in competition. Right, right. Because we're just not the same, right? And I agree.

SPEAKER_01

I agree too. So, yeah, you're probably right on that. There may be a little bit of projection, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And Biggie continues to say that the reason why she doesn't like DTB is because she's a clout chaser and not for nothing. I think Biggie has a valid reason to not like DTB because she came out of nowhere and really dragged this shit out. She really did. Biggie. She really did.

SPEAKER_01

Like, granted, it was hilarious. Bro, it's so bad though. She really did.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like I feel like Biggie has a valid reason. Valid.

SPEAKER_01

Valid. You know, and I just don't like Biggie. That's that's really what it is. So now Biggie and DTB are going back and forth because after Rolly congratulates, you know, DTB on being MVB, Biggie comes out and was like, but I was the first MVB though. Yeah. Congratulate me on being the first MVB. Yeah. And I'm not gonna lie, it did look a little like hater-ish. A little bit, yeah. Because why did you try to take the shine off of DTB? Yeah, and that's when DTB's like, girl, you see, she's jealous, she's jealous, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and even Sapphire says it in her confessionals that she didn't like that Biggie did that because it don't look good. But it's like all these girls do that to each other.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they do, yeah, they do all do it.

SPEAKER_03

Because doesn't DTV mention meatball? She said Biggie acting like meatballs, and then Biggie said it never gave meatball.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, wait, aren't you a meatball cool? Am I missing something?

SPEAKER_03

Like, I don't know, but I do know that meatball ended up addressing it or something like that. Yeah, online. It was just like a subtle you can never be me, like type thing, mm-hmm to Biggie. But still, it's like all the girls do that. Summer did the same thing when uh what's her name got her her chain, and summer and summer went on to fucking try to snatch the chain and take the shine away from her. I feel like it's a common thing that the girls do here wherever it's stemming from. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

It's just like nah, you're not gonna come in here and think you're gonna get your moment. I'm gonna just take your moment. Yeah, clearly it was stemming from there.

SPEAKER_03

Also, we get a little bit of insight onto how Biggie kind of feels this season later on when Anna Matt comes, because she says last season that she was on baddies, she was going through shit.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

She was and people were coming at her for that. Yeah, yeah. Because she wasn't trying to fight, she wasn't trying to participate, and she's tired of being a pushover and taken advantage of. So, like, now we're seeing her stand up for herself, and so like we gotta like I can't be mad at it, is what I'm saying. Like, I'd rather her speak out and look like that than be what she was during Batty's Caribbean.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I agree. So they go back and forth, and then out of nowhere, you know, we switch over to the issue between DTB and Tavy and find out what their beef was. And you know, DTB felt like Tavy switched up on her for Natalie because she does say that they were cool, right? They were cool. And Tavy claims that she felt set up, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Even DTB was like, You think I'm using you? Like Tavi just feels like covering her ass. No, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_01

That's what it is. Of course, she's gonna lie because the same way Janelle lied because her loyalty is to Natalie. It's literally the same thing. So I'm just laughing at this at this point, and honestly, I'm just looking at the screen, like, what am I watching? But whatever. So then we hear the dramatic music, and Suki comes in looking like a fucking super deep diver, young nigga. Like, she came in looking like a ninja, everything, yeah, everything, right?

SPEAKER_03

She came in fucking ready. I've never seen so Suki so like serious, like she was dead ass. Like, I feel like you know, Suki really does come from like places, like you know what I'm saying? I just feel like we saw that, like the hood, yeah, but yeah, and she's like, I don't know. I just feel like we seen the like the Suki from back in the day type shit because she was wherever this, wherever this strong feeling towards Gretchen coming from, it brought it out of Suki because she came in fucking hair hidden and everything, and came in and fucking Gretchen comes and runs towards Suki and it was up. It happened so quickly.

SPEAKER_01

And Gretchen was getting her ones before security broke it up, right? And then they fight twice, and you see that Suki had hit Gretch with something. Allegedly, we didn't see what she hit her with, but people online are saying that Suki had on brass knuckles, and that's why like Gretch's head, forehead was like like a little small part was split open in the middle, split open, yeah, and bleeding. And honestly, like that shit kind of pissed me off because I'm like, here is Gretsch still trying to play nice, still trying to fight fair, and Suki has never given you a fair one. So I'm not gonna lie, if I was you, I would just stop playing fair, I would just start playing dirty from jump from jump because it's like really fucked up to see that clearly the security guards that are there that are supposed to protect you, they're protecting Suki, right? You know, everybody's like breaking up the fight so quickly, they're not letting Grush get to her. But I'm like, Suki has had so many times to not only sneak, but to spray bear mace in her face, to to cut her fucking neck, you know. She had to get stitches, and now this you're wearing shit on your hands or you're bringing weapons in there, and you did that again. Like, to be honest, to me, the situation was never that fucking deep for it to get to this point.

SPEAKER_03

I agree, and if Fauna and Coquilla agree the same, I feel like a lot of the girls see it and they think it's a little bit extra, but at the end of the day, I feel like I feel bad for Gretch, and that is people already they already know that they don't like that I say that. And granted, you're entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine. Right. However, to also put accountability to Gretch, we can't forget how she tore Jayla up. She played dirty in the last season that she was there, so it's almost like, you know, and yes, she came in for a redemption arc, basically, try to come back and try to redeem herself, redeem her reputation in the baddies franchise. But at the end of the day, where was that Gretchen that bit the shit out of Jayla, bit the fingers? That's what I'm talking about. Like, you know what I mean? Like, where was that? Like, I feel like at some point, if you're getting taken advantage of whether the people edited you a certain way or not, like I just feel like you should have played dirty back. I agree. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

I agree, 100%.

SPEAKER_03

You're not on a high horse when you are saying, Oh, but I've been fair, I've been fair. Because if you were always fair, like let's just say, like a DJ Sky, if you were always fair, is one thing, then okay, but like you were also not that seasons ago, and people have still been holding that over your head anyway. So it's like, why don't you just be that then? And that's what I'm saying. Like, I just feel like I don't know. I I I feel bad for Gretsch, but I also feel like there's at some point you need to take some of the matter into your own hands, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So, and I think that goes back to your point. She came in for a redemption season, right? So I'm thinking maybe that's why she wanted to play fair and didn't want to do the most like she did the last time, because she is trying to redeem herself, but seeing as Suki is just going above and beyond to not look dumb on TV, because that's what it's pretty feel like. That's what it feels like. She's like, You're not gonna punk me on television, and she did say that Gretsch fight like a crackhead and has a bit more strength than her. That's what she that's what she claimed, so that's why she acted the way she acted. But it's like Gretsch, man, you gotta start playing dirty. And that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

Suki is smaller, Suki was way smaller, Gretsch is taller. Granted, Gretchen is skinny and light, just like Suki. So I feel like okay, but at the end of the day, like if you see somebody playing dirty, I feel like I don't know, Gretchen. I have to hold you accountable too, like, girl, yeah, you look going out like this, don't look good either.

SPEAKER_01

Like at this point, channel that old Gretchen, you know what I mean? Right, right. And then Suki leaves the show, which pissed me the fuck off. I was like, you did all of that, and then you left. So not only were you protected, of course, right, by security, you were protected till the end of time while all these other girls have to fucking fight for their life, right? And you left, and none of the other girls, none of them got to confront you, none of them got to line it up with you, nothing, none of them got to say how they felt about what you did. And I love how security just got her out so quick, they just got her out so quick. Like she came for that fight, and then they literally got her out so quick, rushed her out, right?

SPEAKER_03

And and Lex felt some type of way about that too, because obviously, you know, Gretsch wasn't the only one that got maced. There's a bunch of girls that feel like they owe it with Suki, and I feel like one that is a part of the reason why she left so quickly, of course, was because she wasn't trying to deal with the other girls. She came in for Gretsch for a show, and that's it. But also, Tommy does the same thing. Tommy does the same fucking thing, so it's like doesn't matter. Tommy brought her goons. And we spoke about that when she did that too. But that's like a uh a a cur like an ongoing thing that Zeus Network does where they have favoritism, yeah. Especially if you're a bigger name.

SPEAKER_01

But the way they let Roli and Tommy have their ones, the way they let Tink and Rolly have their ones, they actually are letting Tommy, Tommy's fighting her battles, whereas Suki is constantly getting broken up and she's getting taken out, escorted out. That's very different. You and and not for nothing, we say the same shit about Tommy too when she brings the BB gun when she has all these things on her sleeve. It's it's not okay. It's not fucking okay, it's not fair. Yeah, it's not fair. And we say that we hold her and Suki to the same account. But the difference is Tommy actually does her fair rounds.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she comes back.

SPEAKER_01

Like, did not once did she get a fair round, and then you're macing an entire club. That you topped Tommy with that one. You maced an entire club, bear mace. Like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_03

And I love how when Lex was talking about it, she was like, they were they were recapping, and this is later on in the episode, but they were recapping, and they're like, and Lex mentions, like, yeah, you know, she didn't just maze Gress, she mentioned she maced all of us. Yeah, but I love how DJ Sky, good old grounded DJ Sky, mentions, yeah, and the audience, like there was a whole building, and that goes back to the same thing that I can always say, like these girls, majority, which I get it, you're in survival mode, so you're not even thinking about the audience, right? But it's like, bro, the whole building fucking felt that shit, like, especially in the front area, it wasn't just Gretchen, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and and so to me, honestly, in my opinion, I don't think Suki should have been on the show. Like at this point, why'd you come back? Like, I just don't like that this is the last version I get of you, you know what I mean? And I'm not gonna lie, I look at her funny because you claim to, you know, be mad at Gretsch because of the N-word, but you were more upset at the word bitch. Yeah, like your initial reaction why you hit her, why you got in her face was because she calls you a bitch. But you're online basically saying, Yeah, this is from my ancestors. You're writing the narrative of the N-word thing because that's how everyone hates Gretsch in the media, right? But then you're sitting on a podcast with Bobby Aldoff.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yo, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

You're I don't know, like I don't know, like it just it's just like you're more outraged. It's it's giving fake outrage over Gretsch, right? It's giving that because the way you reacted the most was the word bitch. If you're gonna keep that same fucking energy, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe, maybe that's a stretch, maybe it's a stretch, but I looked at her funny because it's like you have all this decorum, right? On sitting on a podcast with Bobby Altoff and y'all do a show together. Y'all, y'all make, I'm sure make good money together. That's great, right? And and the public loves you guys together because it's a polarity, right? Opposites in in the personality. Great, right? But I just I'm looking at you sideways. I'm looking at you sideways. I wish you never went on baddies again because it's like I I you know what? This doesn't even this does not determine how I view her because I don't know her. I'm sure she's still lit, I'm sure she's still making good music, right? I got no issue with the woman. At the end of the day, it is what it is. But in terms of what I saw on the television show and what I'm critiquing on the show, I just think it's funny that you're saying all this stuff and riding the wave, talking about ancestors this, but you're sitting on a podcast with Bobby Aldoff.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, that is a fucking great point. That is a great point. I can't even I love Suki even after this. I'm like I said, it's like being so disappointed in someone that you like. I love Suki so much, she's uh fucking hilarious, but I'm so disappointed in the way she portrayed herself this whole season. Um, but you're absolutely right. That's a valid criticism. Like, you know, it I it feels like you know, those people that they that when you know the it like with Diddy, they're like, oh, they just want to bring a black man down. They use like they they cater towards the oh or the black community when but it's fake outrage because you're right. Like you sit in there making money with Bobby Othoff, who has her own, who has been disrespectful to the black community.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

Way more than I think Gretchen has. Right. Because Bobby is not in the community. At least Gretchen be about the community. You know, Bobby was married to this white man before this, and now like she's going on with the thing where she only dates black men now, and she's like on a thing, but it's like, girl, you know, Bobby and Gretchen are not the same thing, they don't come from that. Like, Gretsch has definitely been around like the culture way longer, and she's not a grifter compared to Bobby. Whoa, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so to me, I'm not gonna lie, like I'm looking at her a little sideways. Obviously, I still love her as an artist, you know. I still have love for her. I don't hate any of these women that I talk about on the show. At the end of the day, it it's a show. You know, I'm not gonna go harassing these women and go in their DM. Um I I actually touch grass, okay? So, but you know, when I'm looking at things like that, Bobby has been in the media and has been scrutinized for basically using black men to basically profit her little career and has been disrespectful to them too, and I guess made that a part of her brand. And it almost feels like an appropriation and not so much of an appreciation. And a lot of people have accused her of that. But you're sitting on a pod with Bobby Althoff. You know what I mean? It's just like a there's a lot of stuff too that the community, and this is what I'm saying when I say they pick and choose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is why outrage, fake outrage. It's just like keep the same energy, boo. Like, don't get me wrong, their personalities together are great. I'm sure they make a lot of money together. But if we're gonna talk about one thing, let's talk about all of the things. Correct. So I just feel like this is fake, bro. This is fake outrage. She's bullying, yeah. She's bullying. Yes, and then you wanna say this is for your ancestors, then you want to bring Dr. Umar into it. But Dr. Umar kind of had a low key issue with Bobby Altoff, too. But whatever, right? Whatever, whatever. So now it's like. What is this? Is this real? What is this? Loki giving bullying.

SPEAKER_03

It is, it is good. And then and then took factor in the fact that she didn't act this way towards Roley. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Giving a little bit of bullying. It's what I'm saying. And even like you could have talked mad shit on the internet about Roley. You didn't do none of this shit. You didn't do none of this shit. And Roley came for you hard. Roley fucking embarrassed you embarrassed you and tore your friendship apart with Sarah Fire. Literally. Basically. Literally. Literally. And this is why I'm just like, you know, I wish you just never came back on the show because now it's like there's a look. There's a look. There's a look now. And it's like you don't want this reputation. That's right. Like, this is not a good reputation. And I'm just like, damn, Suki, maybe you should have just never came back. Maybe like show up for like bookings, perform, be cute. Right. But I didn't expect her to like get into anything like this. Yeah, yeah. Like she really didn't need to. She didn't. She didn't need to. She didn't. Like she's Suki Hong. Yeah, Suki with the good coochie. You didn't even need to fight. Why did you fight? It was never that deep. It was never that deep. But maybe the fight with Rolly, she was very adamant about not looking stupid on TV. So she was extreme. I don't know. I don't know. But that's all I gotta say about that.

SPEAKER_03

But Gretch is crying because she feels like, you know, she she's upset. There's a huge knot. Even to the point where Scotty goes to console her and hug her. The girls are all like shocked. Like, damn, Suki. They're even the girls are shocked. Like they're looking at Suki sideways too.

SPEAKER_01

Because they're like, what the fuck? It was never that deep.

SPEAKER_03

And everybody's saying that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

It was never that deep, bro. And I just don't like how people are just making excuses for it. But whatever. Everyone's gonna have their opinion the same way, like we here on this platform are gonna have ours. So then after that, uh Biggie, this is where Biggie's talking. Oh, it's DJ Skye. Roley and DJ Sky, they're sitting down with.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And Biggie's basically talking about how she just doesn't know how her and DTB fell out. And that's where she has that whole conversation where, like, I don't care if like you guys are still friends with her, you know. I'm not a hater, I'm not jealous of her. Like, mentions the same thing we talked about earlier with like her coming in with Roley and how her and DTB used to be cool, but she just doesn't like when she's a part of the clout chasing.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, she was a victim of the clout chasing, so because I mean she really came for Biggie out of nowhere. So, like I said, Biggie has every reason to feel the way she does. Like, it's not like it's coming from any type of jealousy. Like, Roley, when when Biggie came onto the show, Roley literally was picking on Biggie because she was Spanish. Yeah, literally because she was Spanish, and I would genuinely believe it's because she's the she was the other big girl. Like, that's literally it. So it's like, you know, when Roley was acting funny, that whole thing, I was just like, but Biggie handled it well, she didn't take it personal. I feel like she she was like, I don't care what side you take, like, I'm not saying that. Yeah, when because that's why I know Roley mentioned something like that, bro.

SPEAKER_01

But Biggie not knowing how to pronounce ethnicity had me weak. Yeah, she was funny. I don't know what the fuck she was. She said, girl, say it in Spanish. Sometimes at this point, yeah, just say it in Spanish.

SPEAKER_03

I get it.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, so then at that point, Role, uh, Lex, that's when she complains about how it's not fair that Gretsch, you know, she's on Gretsch. A lot of the girls are on Gretchen's side. Point blank, period. Whether you agree with Gretsch or not, like the girls in the house who were there physically agree with like that it wasn't fair the way Gretsch was treated. Yeah. But then after Roley wraps up the house meeting, says she's excited that DTB's back, you know, and that was it.

SPEAKER_01

And DTB says that, you know, later she has a meeting with Natalie so that you know they could put their differences aside and hopefully she can perform and do what she gotta do. Then Role and Scotty meet up, and that's where they catch up about DTB. They want her to stay the entire season. You know, this is where Role says that she thinks that Biggie has an issue because she's jealous. Scotty disagrees, and you know, Scotty then mentions her issue with Natalie. Um but she also says that she feels that Biggie may have an issue with DTB because now Natalie has an issue with DTB, which I thought was interesting because I'm wondering if Biggie and Tavia are in that same category of just being like loyal soldiers for Natalie almost.

SPEAKER_03

I noticed that there was a shift in Biggie ever since like the that she came back, that there is that energy, so maybe, but at the end of the day, like I said, maybe there is that too can be true, but I feel like the other part is you can't deny that DTB came out of nowhere in the auditions and dragged the shot. That's what I'm saying. So for no reason.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Diamond did go online and said that Biggie was just being annoying, like she was being a hater, she was getting mad at everything that DTB was doing. She's like, Why does she get to do this? Why don't I get to do this? Why is she doing this? That's Biggie too. Why are you doing though? Right. So that's why DTB did what she did because Biggie just was being annoying and just wouldn't stop.

SPEAKER_03

But I don't know if that's a valid reason to drag her the way she did. And it's like, yo, like, okay, there's one thing to confront and have a fair one, but she came from the back and literally just dragged.

SPEAKER_01

She did. That was so bad. It was funny as funny. I was like, why did you know? I felt bad. I was like, oh my god, why would you do that? The same way I felt bad when she did that to Natalie. I'ma feel bad because I'm like, bitch, that was so uncalled for. Yeah, when she did that to Natalie, that was so fucked up, bro. Like Natalie just came to the scene and boom, like for no reason.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. So, like I said, Biggie has a reason, despite maybe that other stuff could be another like a the cherry on top of other stuff. But like I said, like I don't know if DTB never did that. I don't know how it would look. So yeah, you know what I mean. So, um, but yeah, and then Scotty mentions that she's gonna do a workout with the girls, yeah, yeah, and she does do the workout, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, did she do the workout? Oh no, she says she's gonna do the workout, yes. But then this is where we see DJ Sky and like some other girls meet up, and then Dolly asking her if she lost her job just because DJ Ari's there.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, there's like a room with Nunu, Jayla, Dolly, and Lex, and then the two DJs come in DJ Ari and DJ uh Skye. Yep, and yes, Dolly being messy as fuck. But it's this is so funny.

SPEAKER_01

It was a little shady. It was shady. It was because Sky was like, there are a few people that prefer me for their DJ sets. And DJ Ari was like, it was only Biggie. It was only Biggie. Like, don't make it seem like it was cheap. I was like, yo. Then the girls start laughing, and I'm like, damn, yo. Uh what I call her dirty.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, and then this switches to the other scene where Gretsch walks into Smiley, Fauna, and Coquilla, and uh they're just recapping.

SPEAKER_01

Why the fuck Smiley talking about let me see your forehead? She knew exactly what she was doing. I'm happy Gretsch said, fuck you, bitch. Yeah, you call her like really ridiculous for that.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Got nothing better to do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and then Gretsch says some weird shit like let me see your titties. I'm like, what? Because her titties are botched. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. I'm crying. I didn't get that.

SPEAKER_01

Isn't she the one that has the scarring on her titties? I think she does. She's got botched fuse things. Yeah, so she has like scarring. I think so that I got that. Oh, that makes sense. I think I saw like she has scarring, but I could be wrong. She was unbotched, so you make sense, you know what I mean. So then, you know, Bana basically wants to know what the beef is at this point, you know, because she didn't think it was that deep, you know. And you know, somewhere at some point joins the girls, but Grutch basically just says that it's not fair, you know, and she she doesn't need all of that, and it's just like ridiculous at this point. Yep. And Killa said that she needs that from Suki too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which she also went on the internet and said that she had brass knuckles, and that's why she didn't attack her there. Because people were coming after her, like, oh, well, why didn't you do nothing when Suki was there? And she was like, Well, she hit Grutch with something and she said she had brass knuckles. Why am I gonna fucking go after her? Because, like, no, I don't want to deal with no bitch with no weapons.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was funny because Jayla and her confessional says that Tommy and Suki have like a secret compartment because they be bringing weapons and you don't see it happening.

SPEAKER_01

Like so now this is where DJ Skye, you know, it switches back and forth, and DJ Sky is telling the girls that, you know, the bear mace that Suki had was Tsekis, right? And this is where all of the girls feel like to uh Suki put everyone in harm's way and that things are just kind of unfinished, right? Unfinished. And Skye basically says that the girls are gonna be on their way to the last city now, yeah, and that they have to finish the tour with a bang.

SPEAKER_03

And and then they also ask Summer, like at some point, because they're switching back and forth from scenes. They asked Summer how they feel about Dolly being back, and then Summer's like, you know, she's happy that they got through the fighting, but then it's funny because Fana and Coquilla call her out on her bullshit because she's like, I would never do that to those girls, and they're like, But you been said you got something for them in Detroit, and she would and she started stuttering, she did, she would start laughing, she did, and then Gretch calls her a Suki Jr. And then she was like, Summer's like, Well, ain't nobody coughing and everybody was good.

SPEAKER_01

She said, Ain't nobody got pepper spraying, yeah. She said, My bitch is fighting.

SPEAKER_03

Right. So I thought it was it. I I appreciated the those back and forths because I feel like Fauna and Coquilla were very honest. Like, I feel like a lot of people were just very straight up. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I'm happy that they did that too because for the longest time, Summer was really trying to make it seem like no, they came out for me, but clearly you weren't caught in a lie. Like you did call people on them. Like, so that was very interesting. So now Jayla says that she thinks that Anna and Tink are gonna be coming back. This is where I realized Tink hasn't been around. I was like, I was like, I didn't even notice that Tink was like gone. Anna, I knew she was gone. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

Tink, I did not realize she was gone. No offense, girl. Right, right. I was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_01

No, for real.

SPEAKER_03

She was not missed.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So the girls are basically happy that DTB is back. They hope that she stays. And you know, as Fauna, Gretch, and all of them they leave the scene. Gretch says she's gonna cook some. Killa took my I don't trust no white bitch cooking. And Gretch is like no white. And I was like, oh my god. They don't got no seasoning. Yo. I was like, damn b.

SPEAKER_03

That's why I said I fuck with Fauna and Coquilla this whole like exchange. Cause they was just straight up, they said, girl.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And then you find out after that Gretch also leaves the show. Where I'm like, damn, for real.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so there was like a scene that says shortly after breakfast, Gretchen decided that the best thing for her to do was leave the tour and go home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which, what the fuck? Yeah, that pissed me off. I that's what I'm saying. This whole episode pissed me off. I'm like, Gretch, Suki's gone now. Like, why aren't you stay? And then stay.

SPEAKER_03

And then I know she went online and said that they edit her a certain way, but I don't know, man. I'm just like, what happened between that conversation to breakfast? What did they do? What exchange happened? What maybe I don't know. This is like she seemed she was upset, but I don't know. She seemed like she was still able to push. I don't know. Gretchen went through a lot this season.

SPEAKER_01

She did, she did. But you're right to like even you know inquire about that and wonder because I thought the same thing. I'm like, what the fuck happened from that to now? Because she did in that clip seem fine, yeah. But I don't know, maybe after a while it started to get to her and she was like, I gotta go. Or maybe something happened at home and she was like, I gotta go. But I don't know. I was just like, damn, we got no explanation. She just kind of like left the show. I was like, Sufi's gone out. Why are you leaving?

SPEAKER_03

You know, but and then we got the outro of her. I was sad. I ain't gonna lie. Like, I feel like a lot of the girls this season kind of grew, Gretsch grew onto them. Like, you know, there was a lot of girls vouching for Gretsch, which yeah, you didn't see that obviously the previous season. Yeah, that she was on. So it was like people got to know her. She's actually cooler in real life than people gave, they gave her a chance. And I just it sucks because she did go through a lot this season. Yeah, she and I feel like she went through a lot more this season than the season where she was being more disrespectful, yeah. Because she was being disrespectful the last time she was on baddies, yeah. Like she didn't care, she was just being a bitch, and you know what I mean? So it's like, but she wasn't on that this season, yet this season she came out with stitches, she had knots in her hand, she had pepper sprayed, and it's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Pretty wild, yeah. I was like, the Bear Mace was so extra. I don't care what anyone says. I I really don't, I really fucking don't, but whatever. Scotty works out with the girls outside. This scene was cute, it was cute, a little funny. Rolly was not giving a fuck about none of the workouts. She was smoking.

SPEAKER_03

She was watching them smoking, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she was smoking her blunt, did not care. Killa comes in, does a little front back flip or some shit. I was like, Oh, that's cute.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, miss a little gymnastics.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was it.

SPEAKER_03

You know, my biggest surprise to me was a lot of the baddies could not keep up. Yeah, yeah. And Scotty's pregnant, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, shout out to Scotty. But pregnancy doesn't like disable you from being able to work out.

SPEAKER_03

No, it doesn't, but it also shows how athletic and how much Scotty really be working with the body because you know what I mean? When Janelle said I could keep up because I do this, and then you see all these other girls struggling, I'm like, dude, the pregnant lady get you.

SPEAKER_01

Right, and then fucking Biggie tossing and falling over the floor. I was like, this is very chaotic. Like this whole scene of them working out, I'm like, this is super chaotic.

SPEAKER_03

I thought it was an interesting fact that Scotty's like, I've been talking about doing this for seven seasons, and I'm like, oh, that's so interesting. Because again, at the end of the day, you know, who calls a shot, right? We know who the puppet master behind everything. So it's funny that this was pitched from the very beginning, and now we're just starting to see those things. I think it's just reflective of um, you know, the higher-ups and what they like to see, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03

Elaborate, meaning like how do I explain this? I just feel like you know how like the the formula for baddies became very stale after a while, but it it was the same formula until probably this year. Like this season in particular, or maybe a little bit of the last season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think a little bit of baddies. Right, Africa, right?

SPEAKER_03

Baddies Africa, that's when it started, but it feels like you know when uh uh a business owner is very comfortable because the format works and that's what it is and that's what it was, it just shows like you know, there was a uh it took a while to get the plumbers to be open-minded to you know new things, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01

You think so, or you think it's because she's pregnant?

SPEAKER_03

And they're like, Okay, you're pregnant, you can't no, because this whole formula for this season too is very different. They're not in a house, they're you know, they're in hotels, they're they're doing a tour, it's different. And same thing with Africa. You started to back riding, like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01

Yours back riding?

SPEAKER_03

You started to see the formula change, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I thought it was fun, I enjoyed it. It was fucking chaotic as fuck. But then we see Mariah, Toseki, and Biggie, they sit down, and eventually Anna comes back and they are catching her up on the entire tee, yo, about Suki, Gretch, the mace in the club, like everything. Eating the coochies. Oh my god, yes, Lex and Summer. Yo, Anna was gagged. She was gagged. She couldn't believe what she was hearing. Like, what the I liked her confessional look though. That shit hate. I was like, oh, that's cute.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's cute. It was cute, yeah. And then, and then also we we see Sapphire Mariah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Mariah decides to clear the air with sapphire, which this really pissed me off. I'm telling you, this whole episode pissed me off because she wanted to clarify that she never mentioned the word sneak. She said fight when she told Suki. And I'm like, does it matter? You already told Suki. Thank you. And that's why it doesn't matter. You told Suki is the whole point. You're the reason. You're the reason. Yeah, that the mace got in the club, bitch.

SPEAKER_03

That's why I feel like Janelle, what Janelle's confessional, she says that. She's like, girl, you will be here picking like the semantics, but at the end of the day, you did the act. It's not about whether you said sneak or fight, it don't matter.

SPEAKER_01

You're the one that was being messy, right? It'd be one thing if she didn't say that at all and said something different. They putting words in her mouth, but girl, no, you told Suki, like that's the whole point.

SPEAKER_03

Right, exactly. And I can't with this whole back and forth because it's like Mariah, shut the fuck up. Because even Sapphire was like, I didn't even mention your name. Yeah, like you didn't have to stand up. Yeah, you stood up on your own. She inserted herself 100%. As usual, as usual, when does Mariah Lynn not insert herself? She loves to insert herself, right?

SPEAKER_01

So that was stupid. They they hug it out, and you know, Sapphire says she's not fighting her, that's fine. Then Natalie and DTB finally meet up.

SPEAKER_03

So we get the B-roll, it says earlier the same day. Get the dramatic music. You got DTB talking about how, you know, last time she seen Natalie, you know, she broke her nose, so now she just wanna fuck this bitch up. But you know, they're hoping they can get into common grounds. And then uh, so DTB sitting down waiting for Natalie, and then Natalie come in. It gets it's a little awkward at first. You felt the awkwardness, it was so awkward.

SPEAKER_01

It was so awkward, and then fucking Natalie talking about, yeah, like don't sneak me, don't sneak me, you know. Like, first of all, this whole sit-down got me tight too. Because I'm like, okay, so Natalie starts talking and she's like, I want to take accountability for what happened, for everything that happened, and you know, the reunion, right? DTB shock, like, whoa, Natalie wants to take accountability since when, right? She said, Where's Ashton Kutcher? She said, No, he's not here. I'm like, She was dragging it, she was trolling, DTB trolling. Yeah, but Natalie saying no, he's not here is crazy. Like, obviously, like the fuck. Anywho, so then this whole thing was just so weird, okay? You think so? I think so, and I'm gonna tell you why. Because yes, they needed to clear the air, but then DTB starts talking about what Natalie did that she doesn't like, right?

SPEAKER_03

You posing with the tooth, you going online, and Natalie starts the conversation where she had to take accountability and she says, I thought back to when it first happened, and she mentions the tampon comment first. So I feel like, yes, but I was very impressed by Natalie being able to actually go back and actually tell you the first time she kind of disrespected DTB. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01

And then, you know, she goes on to say that she didn't want to do that to her at the reunion, like it just got out of hand, whatever. She wants to take accountability for everything. So DTB is bringing up all of the other instances where you always apologize, but then you kind of like do funny stuff, like you posing with the tooth, you inserted yourself in a situation that had nothing to do with you, and that really hurt me. That was a vulnerable moment for me when I fought Tsasiki and I lost my tooth. That was like a real injury. And you were posing with the tooth, you were talking shit online, you were doing all this stuff, it had nothing to do with you. We didn't even have an issue. I thought we deded it there, but then you did that. Then, you know, Natalie's apologizing, right? But this is where I found it weird because Natalie's like, I didn't even know. It was on the floor next to me. Girl, girl, you dead ass use the energy to take up the tooth to go like and to go online and be like, day day babe, your fucking tooth, like all this shit. Don't sit there and say, I didn't even know. Like, if you're gonna take accountability, don't say I didn't know. It's like she took the accountability, but then she backtracked when it came to the toothing. And like that, I was like, girl, you know exactly what you did with the tooth, just own it. Like you thought it was funny, just say that. Like, take accountability for it.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if she necessarily like, I guess how it can come off. It may come off as like a backtrack, but I feel like Natalie doesn't want to say what she actually wants to say on camera, which is that's personality me. There's that, and that's why DTB, I feel like, picked up on that and was like, So, you know, you want to act like a castmate, because if you were a castmate, I'm gonna treat you like a castmate, but then you can't hide behind the CEO title when you choose and when you want to. Exactly. Because that's essentially what I feel like when Natalie was like, Well, I didn't know, I think it was TV personality coming out where it's like that blurred line, and that's what DTB picked up on and was like, Well, you can't be doing that because if you're the CEO, you're the CEO, but then if you're gonna act like a castmate, I'm gonna treat you like a castmate, right?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And and I guess that makes a lot of sense when you put it into that perspective because she was stuttering on her words when talking about that moment about the tooth. And I'm just like, why are we stuttering? And that's what that's why for me it it felt off and it didn't feel genuine. Yeah, but I guess when you look at it from that perspective, that makes more sense.

SPEAKER_03

And I feel like DTB picked up on that. That's why she said after what she said.

SPEAKER_01

Right, but then she, you know, DTB also brings up the live with Summer, like Natalie, you're in. Charge, you could have ended the live. You didn't have to continue. And it's like, granted, she didn't even say anything about DTB on the live. Summer did, right? And summer dragged it. But Natalie, being the one that's in charge, could have just ended the live. Nope, we're not doing it. But she didn't. So, and maybe the live, she didn't think it was that big of a deal, but she eventually, you know, she takes accountability for all of it too. But DTB seemed like she's not really fucking with it. She's not really fucking with it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, because it, you know, after the apology and everything, you know, Natalie says, you know, that well, because DTB, first of all, she's like, well, I want to fight.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. And then say that.

SPEAKER_03

Natalie's like, well, I'm not fighting you unless we're on center stage and making money from it. Which I get that.

SPEAKER_01

Nat said that she doesn't want to beef with DTB because, you know, she admits that DTB is practically her most valuable baddie, and they make good money together. And she wants to keep, she wants DTB to come back as a baddie on the show because she realizes that.

SPEAKER_03

That's exactly what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Stephen says, like, you know, we're both entrepreneurs, so they both understand. It's like an unspoken language that they understand.

SPEAKER_03

And I feel like that's the whole conversation. That's why I appreciated this conversation. I wasn't mad at it. I because I feel like DTB and her speak the same language.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. I feel like they're very similar.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and that's why when Natalie was stuttering, she didn't have to complete the sentence for DTB to even understand. You saw it in her eyes that she understood what she was trying to say without saying it. Yeah. But I thought what was very interesting, and I feel like a form of character development that you see in Natalie is that Natalie admits you bring value to Mike franchise. Right. I feel like, you know, Natalie back in the day was too egotistical to even admit that. Like when Krishan was around, she would never apologize to Krishan and say she made her valuable. Like I feel like hearing those words out of Natalie's mouth shows growth in a way. Like, first of all, her taking accountability being able to look back at the very first time she did. To me, I'm like, damn, okay, she really did think about this shit. Like, because when you look at how she treated Scotty, you know what I mean? She's not, she's never taken accountability for the way she treated Scotty on the show. So it's like, you know, when she I see that, and then she tells DTB, yeah, you bring value to the franchise. I feel like you have to let go of your ego. And a lot of the times you see Natalie with the ego off the roof. So for her to say that, to apologize, to say, you know, to listen and that, I was like, this is a uh a different Natalie.

SPEAKER_01

No, but it is true though. DTB, uh, in my opinion, I would say is up there with the most valuable baddies on the show that are the fan favorites that bring in the most money and attention. Like, let's be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03

Beyond entertaining, we missed her at the New York uh the tour, the New York tour performance. Like it was not the same without DTB.

SPEAKER_01

The fact that the crowd was yelling, DTB, D loud as fuck.

SPEAKER_03

Yo, and the fact that I was hoping that the whole time that she would show up and then she never showed up, that disappointment was just like, damn.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, so like, you know, it's it's great that Natalie can at least acknowledge that. And I feel like DTB has an upper hand because of that, because it's like, you know, I fucking bring value. Like, you know, I think that's great for both. Like, I loved the conversation. I ain't gonna lie. I loved it.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, Natalie said she can't know. She tired, yo, she tired. That's what it's giving. Yeah, but of course, you know, we think that the conversation's done, but then big DTB decides to throw her back at Natalie. Yo, she said, I ain't gonna let you have this bitch. I was like, Okay, well, I saw that coming.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_01

And then she said, Fuck it, I'm gonna get something out of this. That's what it gave. And that is where the episode ends. And then for the preview, oh my god, Tavy and Fauna star cross lovers. They argue again, they argue, they argue, because I guess Natalie is with the girls at this spot, and Natalie's recapping the situation with DTB, saying that she wants to fight. Tavy says that no, she doesn't need to fight Natalie, and that's essentially why, you know, Fauna gets up and's like, You're dick riding. Like, why shouldn't she fight? Why shouldn't she fight? Which is really crazy to me. I'm like, Fauna, what? Like, nah, but I mean, there that tension's been building up, and I feel like But then she goes off on Natalie, and then you know, they argue too, which Fauna, I guess, confronts Natalie for not being there the whole season, but it's like Fauna, that's not really your place to confront Natalie. Like, leave that to Role because Roley and Natalie have been doing this in the beginning. You're still new, so in my opinion, I'm like, Fauna, what are you on? Like, I get that you are also a fan favorite, but like relax, you just got here. You know what I mean? Natalie gave Roley that position, so I think Roley should handle that with Natalie. So just to see Fauna in the preview going off, actually trying to argue with Natalie, a little distasteful, but of course the fans are gonna eat it up because no one likes Natalie, so they're just gonna eat it up. So then Tommy also shows up and Killa clearly wants that, but I don't know if she gets that. Then someone random, a random, fights Biggie. Who the fuck is that? I don't fucking know. I don't fucking know who the fuck that is, but we will find out next week. Yes, we will, right? And that is essentially the episode, and that's all the shit that got me tight. So yeah, this whole episode just got me tight. Like exactly, yeah, that was it. Overall, those are my thoughts on it. Like what about you?

SPEAKER_03

No, I mean I did I like this episode. I mean, I did because I just I like I liked it too. The conversation gave me tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, I get it. You know, valid reasons, you know, Suki got me tight. Oh, yeah, you know, but I mean, overall, I enjoyed the episode. I did. I think we got some some good information, some some dialogue.

SPEAKER_01

I love a good dialogue, for sure. Definitely had a lot of good dialogue.

SPEAKER_03

Let us know what you guys think down below. Let us know what we missed. Do you feel bad for Gretsch? Do you think this is her karma? Do you think that, you know, she needed to leave the episode? Do you think she got a fair one this season? Or do you think that, you know, the diamond the damage was already done? Yeah, you know, so put that in the comments below. Let us know what you think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and how do you feel about Suki, you know, reacting this way to Gretsch, but then being on a show with Bobby Althoff? Like, definitely comment your thoughts about that too. If you know who Bobby Althoff is, then you know exactly what I'm talking about. Um, but yeah, I mean, with that being said, where can they find you?

SPEAKER_03

You guys can find me on Instagram, that's J-E-S-S-I.strange, and where can they find you, Tiana?

SPEAKER_01

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