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Today we're going to be diving into an old school fave! A shot at love with Tila Tequila! Back when Myspace was TRENDY AF, She was one of the first to use the platform and the internet to garner fame and popularity! 

What made her ahead of her time and what exactly caused her downfall?

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SPEAKER_01

Tila has been in controversy time and time again. Like it's not just a one-time thing. Who does she get engaged with? Uh Casey Johnson, which is like the inheritance of Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, which is so random, right? How did she find out about the baby oil?

SPEAKER_03

Johnson and Johnson.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, today.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome back to the Petty Headquarters. I'm your host, Channel Lock, and this is Jesse Strange. And we are back at it again with another episode, y'all. And this time we are gonna be talking about something kind of on brand, but a little different. Tila Tequila's A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila. Yeah, but mostly just like a whole low-key mini dive into like her rise and her fall from fame at the same time. Like it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we'll be talking about that. So if you guys are interested in taking it back to an old school reality TV, tune in. You know, we are the petty headquarters. We talk about reality TV, internet culture, uh Hollywood culture, all of those things.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And so, yeah, for those of you new, please subscribe. We're the petty posse. And yeah, for those of you uh returning, what's up, y'all? Welcome back.

SPEAKER_03

So, without further ado, let's get into this week's dose semester, right? So, who is Tila Tequila?

SPEAKER_01

Well, first of all, let's take it back. Is 2007 when it came out? Yes, 2007. Uh, you got little old me. Okay. I don't even know how old I was in 2007.

SPEAKER_03

It was seventh grade. You were like what, eighth grade in 2007? Let's do the math right now. So you're like a year older.

SPEAKER_01

2007, minus 19. I was 14 years old. Okay. So you were in eighth grade? Yeah, I was 13, 14 years old, exactly. I definitely was already on my bisexual vibes 100%. I knew I came, I was like interested in girls when like when I was in the sixth grade. So by now, I'm already deep in. Like I'm already curious, already probably definitely have kissed a girl or two. And then you see on MTV this show, a shot I love with Tila Tequila, and it's a show about uh Tila Tequila, who is supposedly bisexual and looking for love, both men and women.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And to me at the time, it was freaking huge because uh hello, I'm this girl who's not much lesbian, gay presenting shows at the time. Yeah, yeah. So on the low, I was watching that shit, and I loved it. I loved it, and it's so funny because for such a long time I felt like Tila Tequila was, and still to this day, I I can give it its credit to representing or pres, you know, representing at the time that it was represented. Right, right. Even though now looking back, it's not really what I thought it used to be.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. And uh she came out in 2018 and said she lied about that shit. She did it all for the fucking cameras.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. She was gay for pay. Right, gay for pay. 14, 13-year-old me loved it. Loved it because there wasn't many. I went to a Catholic school and there wasn't many people. I was the only girl who liked girls and that was proud of it. You know, there were girls on the class that secretly were curious, but never someone who was 100% like into girls.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01

So it was a big deal for me. And I really liked it. But then now as I'm older and looking back on it now, it's kind of like a lot of things that I want to get into today.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, like let me just say, I love that show. I loved that show. Shada Love Attila Tequila. I will never forget the episode where they made the contestants eat bison dick, balls, and dick, and oh my gosh, I died. I died. Like those challenges were outrageous. They were wild.

SPEAKER_01

They were wild. You think it was season two where you had to like either get a piercing, a tattoo, walk on glass? Yeah, what's the critic?

SPEAKER_03

What is it? Fear fact. Like, what the fuck? Like, damn, over loving. That's how you know. I'm telling you, old school reality TV. It was wild. It was wild, but it also was different. Like it was very different. It was way more entertaining than we're not. I'm not gonna hold you. Maybe what they were doing.

SPEAKER_01

As bad as it was, that shit was entertaining. 100%. 100%. Like, even the fact that the guys in the season one had to like come with a gift. Yes, and like woo Tila Tequila, the best.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I think that's similar too to I Love New York. Like, didn't they do the same thing when they had like the gift too? Yes. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

And even you saw people get creative with it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you would see, and I think that's the best part about like old school reality TV shows, like the creativity, like you know. I'm like, wow, you really thought of that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Like you saw some people embarrass themselves. There was this one guy who had a like a rose, he was singing. This other guy, he got her a pillowcase with his face on it. Oh my goodness, I remember that. I put you to sleep and you wake up next. Mad narcissistic.

SPEAKER_03

Like, what the fuck, bro? Like, I don't even know you. I don't even remember if he was cute or not.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it was. I don't think yeah, they weren't cute, right? Somebody made her a bowl of uh meatballs and spaghetti.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, this that show, it was still funny as fuck, though. Yeah, that show was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

But it's so funny. I love how in season one the girls didn't have to do the gifts, only the guys. That's how you know the guys had a they was already losing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I know for real. But I really enjoyed that show, even though she ended up with nobody on both seasons. She ended up with nobody.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay. So let's talk about it, right? So, you know, go like remembering back to Teela Tequila. Uh, first of all, should we talk about how she got there first?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let's talk about how she got there.

SPEAKER_01

Teela was always ahead of her time. She was an influencer before that. Name was a thing. Right. The concept of influencer was an actual thing. She was ahead of her time and didn't even know it. She saw the importance of having a strong social media presence on MySpace. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Right. She like um was able to actually gain over 1.7 million followers on fucking MySpace, which which is wild. You know, I never was allowed to have MySpace. Really? Yeah. I never, and you know, obviously. Never had a top eight friends. I never had MySpace because my mom was so fucking strict about mad shit. So all of my friends have MySpace and was the only one that didn't.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy. I had the the website before MySpace, which was Ixanga. What UCI had shit.

SPEAKER_03

The only thing I had was aim. So that's when I was like up in the shit. Cause my that I could keep secret a little bit. But like MySpace, like she was just like on my ass. Damn. I couldn't even, I didn't even get Facebook until like senior, junior high school. Oh hell no. I know. And then and then when she found out, she found out by accident because my cousin, Shana. Okay, if you're listening, you know exactly what story this is. She it like got too excited and randomly just told my mom that I had one. And my mom got so mad at me. I know you was in trouble. I was in the Caribbean. I was in trouble. And it wasn't, and it's crazy because looking back on it, nothing was even happening. But you know, my mom was always so paranoid about like oh online predators, and she just didn't know. So it was such a new thing that she felt like if you're online, you're gonna be exposed to predators no matter what.

SPEAKER_01

Even though it was just all my high school friends, like well, I mean, she wasn't wrong. No, yeah, it's true. But so going back to tequila, Tila Tequila, Tila Tequila, she um she had a big following on MySpace, which ended up giving her the intention that she needed to get the show to begin with. Right. And that's how we got into this uh reality TV show. Uh, because she was doing Playboy modeling for Playboy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she was modeling for Playboy magazine, stuff magazine, Maxim magazine. Like she was really outside. Yeah. I wonder if she like I know right now she's I don't even she's like different. Like now it's just very different. She is practicing her walk with God, but you know, she has a lot of issues. But I wonder if she would have done OnlyFans or if she is doing OnlyFans. I don't fucking know. I don't know. But maybe if that was a thing at the time, right? Maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, but yeah, so here we are in 2007, you know, watching Taylor Tequila. And when I think back on it, right, I feel like even though it was so important at a time, and I honestly I think it it deserves its flowers in a sense, but it also pushed a lot of homophobia and the and a lot of I guess bisexual stereotypes that now when you look back and it's like kind of like it's a little cringe, right? It's a little cringe. So for example, in season one, you had I guess the season one and two, but two, it was even worse. The men on season two were diabolical, yeah, they were disrespectful, they would say, Oh, you would have to change, you would, you know, being just very homophobic comics, yeah, uh-huh, and stuff like that. And I feel like even the concept like guys being brought in in the cage, uh, and then girls being brought in the cage, and then Tila as like when she eliminated people, it had to be a guy and a girl. There had to be a balance in that, which I thought was weird. Now looking back at it, right? Yeah, and then it goes back to the same thing, right? The point of when someone's bisexual, they are bisexual, like they are that they like both men and women, but kind of the concept of the show kind of makes it seem like you have to choose at the end. You're not, if you choose a girl, you're the lesbian. If you choose a man, you're straight.

SPEAKER_03

But that was the mentality back then, for real, for real. Where if you said you were bisexual, it's like, no, pick one. You're either this or you're either that. And that was also another scene that popped up in the Bad Girls Club. Sorry to bring it there, but there, you know, old school reality TV around those times, right? What was it? 2009. Amber and Flo got into a fight on the show because Amber was like hella homophobic. As much as she thought she wasn't, she was like, Oh, I just don't understand. You either pick one, you either lick the cooter or you suck the cooter. Like, which one is it, Flo? And and of course, Flo was like, yo, watch your fucking mouth. Like, you know, like watch your fucking mouth. You're fucking homophobic. Like, you know, times are different now. Like, if I like both, that's what I like. What is what does it matter to you? Like, so I'm not surprised by that because that was always the the rhetoric said out of everyone's mouth, like even in school, too. Yeah, 100%. You always heard that. It was always like, which one is it? Which one isn't? People were like really fucking mean back in the day, and that's why, you know, when I hear the shit people go through today, I'm like, eh, you want to have survived back in the day for real, because it was ruthless.

SPEAKER_01

100%. And even me, like sharing a little bit of my story, right? It was it was kind of like when I first was questioning my sexuality, of course I'm gonna say bye because how do you know? I'm like in sixth grade, right? Right, so like I am interested in girls, but I don't know. Right. And it's funny though, but as I got older, it was more like not necessarily a pressure, but a question that would always be had like, okay, at the end of the day, you're not gonna be by forever, you're gonna have to choose one. Yeah, and in my situation, they were correct, but not every buy.

SPEAKER_03

Everyone situation is different, right?

SPEAKER_01

There are actually by there are actual by people who really do dabble in both equally or prefer one, but still do both. Right. You know what I mean? So I thought it was interesting, but you're absolutely right. The show does reflect the mentality that it was back then.

SPEAKER_03

So that show was pretty wild, yo. It was really wild. Yo, I gotta run it back. I gotta run it back. We should do like a recap where we watch an episode because honestly, I tried looking it up.

SPEAKER_01

Or we could have like a watch party. That'd be fun. Yeah, exactly. That'd be fun. I don't know if y'all don't watch it, but it's so funny because you can't even find Tila Tequila's uh show easily the way you can find old other shows. Yeah, like on Tubi, I would have expected it at least there. Yeah, it's not there, it's not there, it's hard to find.

SPEAKER_03

And this brings me to like my thing. Like, I feel like she was blacklisted by the industry. Like, I'm not gonna lie, like given her history and just looking at her as a person going into fame, you know, going through her mental illnesses too while being famous, and then her sputing out controversial comments and tweets, and then her making vlogs about the industry, and then all of a sudden it's like she's no longer getting this deal, she's no longer getting this deal, she's no longer getting this, and suddenly she's just gone completely. After having two seasons of her show, right? She decided she didn't want to do another season. She was like, This is too much on me, this is too much mentally, this is just a lot. Like the network, they were doing too much, and it was taking a toll on her mental health, right? Yeah. But then after that, you know, so she didn't continue with it, but she had like book signings and she created a fucking manual, like a book called How to Hook Up with Tila Tequila. And I was like, Yeah. So I was like, okay, marketing, I guess. Like, you know, marketing off of the show and the hype of the show. And Tila Tequila really was a huge deal back in the day. She was huge. I feel like you know what? I feel like what she is is what Nikita Dragon was. But now it's like the same pattern. Do you see that?

SPEAKER_01

I could see that.

SPEAKER_03

Like how kind of like Nikita Dragon has fallen off as well, too, based off of her controversial moments and things that she's going through. Where even now, when you see her post, it's like she doesn't post that much anymore. She's not really on social media that much anymore. And when she is, she tries to be modest, right? You know, like she's not her usual crazy, you know, expressive self anymore, more reserved. So I just see I think it's interesting how we see a pattern of like you get fame, you're in that spotlight, it gets controversial and messy. Something happens in the industry that we don't know about, and then boom, you get silent.

SPEAKER_01

But also, I feel like Tila, right, was also she, and this is a part of her too. She sexualized herself. She did. And she did. She kind of was treated that way. And that's the thing. She was an like a sex icon almost. Pretty much. Because, first of all, you modeled for a Playboy and all that. So off rip, off of high school, you're already in that industry being looked at as an item. Yeah. But then you got Tila, the the show, right? Going back to the show for a moment. On both, like when you get towards the end of the season, all the, you know, there's only like the last three or four contestants, they go meet the family. Now, when you meet the family, you got the heterosexual side, the men who are very conservative families, and they're judging tequila, uh Teela. Tequila! They're judging Tila because she's has tattoos, she dresses like where she can show skin. Yeah, for sure. And then they always break it to the family. She's bisexual, and they're like, you know, that lifestyle goes against my way of living. Then you go to the families of the lesbians and they're like open and they're like, okay, like they accept it because at the end of the day, in order to have a lesbian daughter, anyways, you're more open-minded in general.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01

So it's always a complete opposite of things. And I feel like even going back to the the men's side of the family, the way they they they look at Tila, the family, it's almost like, why would my son bring this over? You know what I mean? Like they look at her and judge her, yeah. Like she is a sex icon.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I feel like the show didn't have didn't help that. It only continued that. And I don't know. It it is quite interesting, like when you say that, you know, she could have been blacklisted because I mean, she also did a lot of controversial stuff. So I can't even say she does she didn't play a part of that, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the part where it gets tricky because, like, going back to the sex icon comment, like before she even had this, like she was doing music too, but like, you know, she had her EP titled Sex, you know, and then she had these popular songs, Rat Room, and all this stuff. I Love You, produced by Lil John. Like, you know, she was like working on her music career, came out with an album, The Dark Side, whatever. Welcome to the Dark Side. And you know, some people, she's not she wasn't really known for her music. Like, she had a couple of hits here and there, but like she just wasn't really known for her music. But going back to it, it still led to like sex, right? How she started Playboy magazine, the show, you know, her music, like everything was very much surrounded by sex. Um, and I think that's just something that she was just always comfortable with because that's all she knew.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? And also I feel like she was troubled, right? Yeah. She was troubled because you know, she ended up like Tila has been in controversy time and time again. Like it's not just a one-time thing. Yeah, she's kind of been in the headlines. If it's not for, you know, she uh who did she get engaged with? Uh Casey Johnson, which is like the inheritance of Johnson and Johnson. Yeah, which is so random, right? How did you find out about the baby oil?

SPEAKER_03

Johnson and Johnson. How did they? Oh no. Oh no. But didn't they get married and like right after she like died in like a leg.

SPEAKER_01

They got engaged.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't get married, they just got engaged. And then a month after the engagement passed away, which people started looking at Tila funny, but Tila was like really sad and like going through it and was trying, you know, her therapist put her on suicide watch, which is crazy. Like, you know, when you look at like the history, she like you said, with her being troubled, she clearly has a history of like trying to commit suicide, which is like right.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the yeah, so then or gain attention because apparently, you know, there was this one controversy where she had, you know, claimed that her other identity stole her Twitter and and posted a picture.

SPEAKER_03

Jane, Jane, the other identity. But that's the thing too. Like, she said that she had dissociative identity disorder and bipolar disorder.

SPEAKER_01

But but it turns out that that mark on her arms they were not real. She did it for attention. Oh no. Exactly. And so, and so, right? She's like, I don't know, she seems very troubled, like, and and did a like a lot of things with drugs. So she she, you know, clearly needed rehab.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And um, she even was like going supposedly gonna do a show for what is that rehabilitation? Celebrity rehab.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, celebrity rehab, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They dropped her because they said she was not rehabilitated, not being able to be rehabilitated.

SPEAKER_03

It's weird because I hear mixed reviews. I hear either they dropped her or I hear she just decided not to do it because she was also going through shit and she just it wasn't a good time for her.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like the industry kind of, like you said, pushed her away though. I agree. There was that one incident where that festival with the juggernaut, something like that, is basically the this group of people. They're called the Psychopathic Records, and basically, because she was doing music after everything, and uh the psycho they're basically these clowns that that you know they're I don't know, she got a deal where she can go on and perform, and right the crowd rejected her, right? They were throwing stuff at her, they got violent, they got violent and ended up hurting her. And then the the the company goes online and addresses that, oh, we warned her that you know she wasn't favored here, that she shouldn't come and she wanted to come anyways. Which I feel like that response alone was showing that you're not protecting her, you judged her. Yeah, yeah. Same way people judge Kesha, yeah, same way people judge probably Cassie. You know, these girls that are kind of like looked at as, oh, you're a slut anyways, so you know what I mean? You're a whore anyways, so you don't need protection, you do it to yourself, yeah. That's what it gave.

SPEAKER_03

Uh that is what it gave too, because there was also another incident which I this was dismissed, where she pressed charges against NFL player Sean Merriman, is if that's how you pronounce the last name, um, and of assault. She said that he choked her, and when they examined her body, there were no injuries or anything. So they were like, no, no, they're not gonna do anything. But then she decided to take him to court, and then it still nothing happened. He decided to file a lawsuit of his own saying that this is messing up his business with Walmart, interfering with that business that he had, going on a deal with Walmart. And I'm just like, wow, this is interesting. So we don't even know if that was the truth or not. I mean, they said that we don't see any injuries, so how can you prove that? And going back to like you, what you just said, they see someone that they think is just a slut, they see someone that's just troubled, and it's easy to just be like, well, you do it to yourself, so there's nothing to see here.

SPEAKER_01

Or you're full of controversy, so they'd They think you're already the lying or you're the problem. Yes. Or you deserved it. Yes. And then because he said that she was drunk and he was trying to stop her from drinking and driving. I don't know how that relates to having to choke her, but right. I can't.

SPEAKER_03

So now it's just a little funny because did you? What did you do? Because now it's not making sense. If she was drunk, you know how sometimes people get drunk and it's you you you know, so I don't know like if what the situation was, but that whole thing just seemed a little fishy and a little hazy to me, and they never figured that out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I feel like what might have been the result of is uh Teal is another victim of Hollywood in a sense where she wasn't protected. The same way Justin Bieber wasn't protected. Look at how much of a mess he is, yeah, same way as Brittany Spears wasn't protected, look how much of a mess she is. Same as uh Kanye West wasn't protected, look how much of a mess he is. It really gave Kanye West. Yeah, yeah. And you know, going back to the bipolar thing, I I it must be a thing that that comes with the the actual sickness of being bipolar, where you have these like illusions and you start proclaiming Nazis and stuff like that because that's what Tila ended up doing, right? The same thing. Like she admired the same thing as Kanye, she admired Hitler. She said that he was the best and she can empathize with who he was as a person.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. She said he was an artist, a brilliant artist. And I'm like, wow. She even said happy birthday to him. She did the salute. She did the salute with two guys in a picture, posted it on Twitter. Like, whoa. Crazy. Yeah, pretty wild. And she got immediate backlash for that.

SPEAKER_01

I just want to know why fucking Elon Musk didn't get that backlash when he saluted me. Money.

SPEAKER_03

Do you know how many people there are probably shareholders in his fucking business? True. Exactly. That's true. Money. Money. Yeah, that's very true. I mean, I guess you're right. He's powerful. That's why nothing happened to him the same way nothing happened to Diddy, even though something is happening. But look how long he got away with what he got away. Wait with. He got a slap on a rich in the waist. Exactly. Power, money, all of that control, and then his connection, who he knows and Clyde Davis, all these people, right? True. So now when we just look at the industry and we hear all these things and we're hearing all the stuff that happened to Tila Tequila and how there clearly seems to be a pattern, even with Kanye, the same. How do you spout the same shit on Twitter? They have to be doing experiments on them. Or it could just be it can come with like the actual sickness. And they doing experiments. I don't care. They doing something on them. They giving it to them. They giving them the mentalist bitch. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Because how the fuck you spouting out the same thing. It's weird. It's a little weird. It's it's weird. Like it's very weird. But what kills me though, and this is where I say, like, I feel like there's a difference between how women are treated in the industry and how men are because no one gives Kanye the same type of energy. Like he still gets to be big, gets deals, gets to perform, gets to do this, gets to do that, has power, right? In his own way. In his own way, but right, but he's not as silenced as she is, or he's not like she he's not blacklisted, right? He still gets to have his performances, sell his clothing, all this stuff. Tila tequila just fell off. Yeah. She's completely.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, I I and like I said, she it's not like she helps the situation, but neither did Kanye. But that's what I'm saying. There's a difference between how they're treating the women as opposed to how they treat the men. A hundred percent. But that's just in general. Like, like I said, when we talked about it before, like, why is it that mostly women go into conservative ships, but never men? Uh yeah, you did say that before. There's a bit like Kanye. If it was, if it was, if Kanye was a girl, he would have been in a conservative ship. Wendy Williams went into one for less. Yeah. You feel me? So it's like there is a 100% favoritism towards men versus women. But, you know, Tila didn't help her situation either, which is unfortunate. Like, how are you gonna sit there and go? And you know, just because you're a born-again Christian doesn't mean you gotta deny your past. Like, how you sit there and say, I was never a lesbian, I was gay for pay, I was this and that because Hollywood makes you do uh embarrassing her rituals, gay rituals. She did say that. But then you were engaged to Casey Johnson. Right. That was not for cameras, yeah. Well, how do you know?

SPEAKER_03

How do you know? Didn't they get together from the show, Teal and Tequila? Did they? No. I could have sworn, I could have sworn second season. That's when she got with Casey. Really? I could have sworn maybe I'm bugging boxing.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe but Johnson and Johnson are rich, so maybe she wanted to get her pop boots, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Right, which is why one of the other guys she was dating, she left him because he went bankrupt. Oh, it's all making sense. That's what I'm saying. It's just messy. I feel like it's just the whole thing is messy, and this is not like I'm sure she has her flaws 100%. But it's like when you have your flaws and then you're dealing with an industry that's shady as fuck. It's just messy.

SPEAKER_01

We are Tila's parents. Right. Where are her parents? Why would she detect them? Why was she 18 years old modeling for Playboy?

SPEAKER_03

Where are her parents? That's a good fucking question. I don't know. You don't hear nothing about them. You don't ever see them in pictures. You don't hear nothing. Nothing. I don't shit about Tila Tequila's parents, yo. Oh no, that's a great question. Yeah, there is there's no information about Tila Tequila's parents online. No, just that they're immigrants that came here from uh Singapore. Singapore, Vietnam, one of those, both of them actually. Born in Singapore, what fled to Vietnam, came here from Vietnam. Pretty wild.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they wasn't, you know, and I get it, because they're immigrant parents, so like they don't know.

SPEAKER_03

They don't, they don't know. And that's probably why she was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. I'm gonna do whatever I need to do, which is why she's modeling for Playboy. That's where the money was at. Yeah, that's where the money would. She wanna get the money. She wasn't protected, I guess. Yeah, it it is crazy. And then, you know, she did go on Twitter too and say that 9-11 was a hoax and all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01

And I feel like that comes with, like I said, the bipolar stuff because I think the industry gave it to her at this point. Nah, yo, because even like people I've seen with schizophrenia, and I'm gonna speak of schizophrenia because I studied that in school. Like there are there are different types, but they come with the same qualities. Like there's the paranoia one where you think the CIA is gonna get you, you know, and stuff like that. Or you have the the schizophrenia where kids where they stay, they're like childlike figures that that come for them. And there's different forms, but you seem the same qualities, and that's why I feel like with bipolar, there must be a quality in that where you know they start to dive into these conspiracies and and and you know, I don't know, just I guess happen to mention Hitler. There's just fixation towards that stuff. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, which is kind of weird. Like, why do they always mention him? I don't know. That's the weird part. Even in this uh movie, this show on Netflix that I watched, and I forgot the name of it, but it's based on a true story, and it's about this guy, his mom. She's I think she also kind of had a mental illness where she was just very like obsessed with like God and church and felt like anyone that just was, if you even looked at a girl that was sin, you're the devil. And this guy lived with his mom, the other, his older brother tried to get out, you know, but he also suffered from his own mental illness because he was like dressing in girls' clothes all the time, but like his mom would always punish him for that, and he would he would go nowhere, he wouldn't talk to no one, and then he would put people, he was a killer, he was a serial killer, but he would like put people's, it was like leatherface. I think it was like the story kind of like behind leather face almost, and he put people's skin on his face and all this stuff. But there is a scene in there where he was also fixated on Hitler too, and that time, and there was this woman that was in charge, and she did terrible experiments on um Jewish people, and she's like writing they wrote history books about her, and he learned about her in a book and became obsessed with her and started doing the same experiment she did, and started mentioning Hitler, and he was also mentally not sound and he was a killer. And I'm just like, yeah, what the fuck is the connection?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I I would I want to tread Liley with the shows because the shows are basing it off of I know, but what what is the what is the connection? Maybe we need to talk to somebody who specializes in psychotherapy.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe because I this is just a question. I don't know, I don't claim to know anything about this shit. I'm just saying, like, what's the connect? Why is there a connection? There definitely is a connection. Why is it that his name always gets brought up when talking about like someone that's mentally ill or someone that's going through their own like problem? Like, I don't get it. Yeah, me neither. Kanye, Tila Tequila, this show, Leatherface.

SPEAKER_01

What the fuck is going on? Yeah, so I mean, I don't know that, but it's interesting to think back on her because you know she was a big deal, man. She was a huge deal, huge, she fell off hard, hard.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, now she's not even like existent, like in terms of any type of fame or anything, yeah. Which is crazy because she was the pioneer to a lot. She really was, and to think that she was really a first influencer before influencer became a thing, but a word before people really took social media seriously, like she was really doing that.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_03

Um, and what's what's also wild to me is that she also had a custody battle with like her daughters, and it's a lot, it's a lot going on with her, man.

SPEAKER_01

I know, and then she was like off of reality TV for a long time, and then back in 2016, she ended up having a gig at Big Brother, Big Brother, yeah, which didn't last long because that's when they found out about her Nazi tweets three years before that, and it came to bite her in the ass because she got kicked out of the shop.

SPEAKER_03

Literally the day after. She did one day, that was it. She was gone. And I was like, damn. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that goes to show you though, like, no matter what the excuse is, no matter what it is, you know, if it's on the internet, it's on the internet forever.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I just think it's crazy though, like how some people are protected, but then she's not. I think that's the thing. I mean, Erica Maynard got got thrown out for less. No, I'm we're not talking about Erica Mayna, talking about anyone else. I just think it's interesting. But that's again going back to power, right? Because you did mention Elon Musk and nothing happening.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but he did the salute and he can he can put it as, oh, it was just a happy moment. No. He never directly said anything.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely not. Because she posed in a picture and and did all of that. And look, he did that with his chest. He did that shit with his whole chest. Everybody commented on it, but I didn't hear much, I didn't hear much people. It was quiet, it was crickets, and nothing happened to him, but that's what goes to show you power.

SPEAKER_01

So many people aren't affected. No, because Kanye was, and and Kanye was Kanye don't got Elon Musk's power.

SPEAKER_03

He has power, though. Not Elon Musk's power. Let's be real.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like Elon can get away with it though, by the slightest, because he never directly mentioned the name. But that's what makes the difference. But that's what makes the difference. Like, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

That's what makes the difference. Look who he's connected to. I feel like the president's right-hand man.

SPEAKER_01

But I feel like if he at least had made a comment and then got away with it, that's different. Then I feel like that holds value.

SPEAKER_03

Girl, I'm sorry. I don't think that a com it's you, he did that shit with his chest. I don't think he needed to say anything else after that. Like that was self-explanatory in itself, and he did that shit to prove a point. He really did that just because he could and because he has power and he is who he is. So it's like no one said anything to him. Listen, all of these things are bad regardless, but it would be nice to, you know, keep that same energy and keep that same treatment for everyone, and that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's funny because Kanye recently came out and did like a whole love letter back to apologizing to the Jewish. Yeah, to the Jewish community, you know, even though he Kanye did the most, bro. He wore a KKK outfit and everything.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you, they're doing experiments on them. I'm tired of the experiment excuse. Because I feel like that that ex that takes away all accountability. Because now it's now it's oh, you know, he blamed his car accident that happened 20 years ago. Well, you're 20 years too damn late to apologize. And then he apologizes to the Jewish community in the first piece of paper. Then on the second draft, on the second half, he apologized to the black community. And it's like, bro, and it's so funny because people are like, oh my god, they're falling for it again. People are falling for it again. Now he's taking accountability. You know how many time he takes accountability? Yeah, yeah. He gets you in, and then he's gonna go back to doing the same thing and then blaming how you know everyone's against him. But you could tell that he's losing money, that's why he has to come back and apologize.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the same pattern with Tila Tequila, too. And him comparing himself to Jesus, she did the same thing. She literally said her fans are devils and demons. And I'm just like, there's too much comparison though, like in terms of the patterns. Like, why are the patterns like clockwork?

SPEAKER_01

I'm curious to know, and this is a like an ignorant, like my ignorance, obviously, but I feel like if we were in a school that studied mental illness, I feel like we see these examples because they're famous. I wonder those people, and if somebody's a specialist, right, we have to get somebody who's a specialist on him. But I wonder if there's a pattern amongst people in general who have bipolar disorder who affixate because on Jesus and the devil, because that's a thing in schizophrenia. There's like there's this God complex when they have their moments, and I'm speaking again only on schizophrenia because I know more about that than bipolar. Yeah. But on schizophrenia, when you're when you have an episode in schizophrenia, you have this heightened moment where you think you're you're strength, you're godlike, you're you're you're you're unstoppable. And so you have these heightened moments where you literally think you're God, and everyone against you is trying to stop you from being your ultimate self. These are things and the qualities you find similar within all people who suffer from schizophrenia. So I wonder, again, going back to the Jesus and and devil thing, that's something common that you see in schizophrenia. I can imagine if it would be something common in bipolar disorder as well. I don't know, I'm ignorant, but I'm curious to know if there is, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, I think those are all valid, great takes. And um, going back to what you said, I can see how me talking about experiments or even like anything else can be like taking away their accountability. Would you say that mentioning their illness is also taking away their accountability?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

How are how are those different?

SPEAKER_01

Because just because you are mentioning the illness doesn't take away from the fact that you should be taking control of it. And I feel like that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? You don't agree? I'm listening. I didn't say anything. I'm listening.

SPEAKER_03

I'm trying to digest what I'm listening to.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think that saying that you have a mental disorder takes away the accountability, it just helps the person who's seeing this happen understand more of the root rather than as an excuse because it doesn't excuse you.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so that was my question. Yeah, you answered my question. Yeah, it doesn't excuse the behavior. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

At the end of the day, if you are aware that you are sick, you need to get it in control. You need to take your pills, which is something that it becomes a thing, right? But I feel like when you say it's an experiment, now there's complete no accountability. Then now it's everyone else.

SPEAKER_03

They're doing what's so when someone says, yeah, sorry, and their answer, their apology is because I have the mental illness. Is that also in that category? Like I'm blaming the mental illness instead of taking accountability? They are not taking accountability and they are blaming it, but that's not excusable, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I know I'm saying it's not excusable, but I I wanted to ask you if you thought it was excusable, but you answered my question. It's not excusable. However, people do use their mental disorder as an excuse. They do, they do. Correct. I agree. Um, and some people may not agree with that, but you know, it is what it is. Um, yeah, I mean, I that's pretty much it. Do you think like, I don't even, is she even on TikTok? I don't know. Is Tila Tequila on TikTok? Yo, she fell off hard. Yeah. Damn. Well, I think we answered most of my questions because I mean, it's very clear she was blacklisted. Like, yes, she was troubled and she had a lot of issues, but she also, like, you know, didn't take the accountability to get the help that she needed. And she almost this is crazy. Like, even hearing about how she almost died of an overdose, yeah, brain aneurysm, like it's wild. Just giving troubled, troubled person, not protected as a kid. Yeah, and now you're going through life alone. Yeah, and like the amount of time she's wanted to commit suicide, it's kind of alarming. And I'm sure there's like undocumented moments that we just don't know about, too. So it's it's crazy, like it, yeah, she wasn't protective. And end of story, she was not protected, and it's sad, it's sad because you do see a lot of people that are in the industry, and it's the same thing, it's the same exact thing, and it plays out the same way because at the end of the day, it takes like a huge toll on the mental, and it's wild just to see it happen. But you know, that is the rise and fall of fuck Tila Tequila, yeah. Shit. You have anything else you want to say about that?

SPEAKER_01

No, I just you know, I just wanted to talk about it because it's a throwback, it's an OG, and I feel like you know, it just it doesn't get the flowers that it deserves, it doesn't, it doesn't, especially for the LGBTQ community, you know what I mean? That was monumental for for us, you know, back in the day. There wasn't much of that representing online, I mean on TV, so it was really cool, but yeah, that's pretty much it. It's unfortunate that she wasn't the best to represent it at the end.

SPEAKER_03

I know, but it is what it is. RIP, no, not R.I.P, but you know what I mean. The show, the show. R.I.P. a shot at love, Tila Tequila, the show, not her. All right, definitely comment your thoughts below. Let us know what you think. If you watched the show, if you was watching that shit, comment that shit below too. What was your favorite scene you want to hit at? We also want to know where you're from because we always want to know where you guys are from. Um with that being said, where can they find you? You guys can find me on Instagram, that's J-E-S-S I.strange. And where can they find you, Tiana? You guys can find me on Instagram at it's dot Tiana Lock. Oh my god, I'm getting used to it. And you guys can find us on Instagram at the petty headquarters. You guys can find us on YouTube and all podcast platforms at the petty headquarters. Also, guys, we do have a Patreon where we post our exclusive, uncensored things on there. So please tap into BTS, our vlogs, and just overall exclusive content. Um, so you can find us on Patreon at the Petty Headquarters. All right, very simple. All of these links will be in the description as well as the show notes. So tap in. So with that being said, this was your weekly dose of mess.