Episode 4 - Classic twists

This week we try some new variants of established snacks.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello everybody, welcome to Snacks What You Get, the weekly podcast where mother and son review snacks and discuss what they've eaten this week. I'm Chris, the son, and this is Debbie. The mum. Hello everybody, welcome back. Welcome back to another week, uh Snacks What You Get. I'm here, and so's my mum.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Hello everybody.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Yeah, how are you this week, mum?

SPEAKER_02 0:29

I'm good, thank you. It's a lovely day today. I'm very happy that the sun's out.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

It is, it is. It's been a bit rubbish, uh, other parts of the week, so uh it's nice to have a warm day and a sunny day because I think it's been quite muggy as well.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

It's been very foggy down in Weymouth and misty in the mornings and most of the day to be fair.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Yeah, no, I agree. So, well, we'll head straight into it this week as uh as always we always look forward to these, but looking forward to this week. And we'll go into our first segment, New Bites. Okay, new bites. This week, what have you got for us?

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Well, this week I tried a chocolate hazelnut croissant from Lidl from the bakery section. Okay, yeah, 75p, which isn't bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

So it's pretty good, especially is it a fresh, it's a fresh one, isn't it? It's a fresh one, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

And it's filled. It was lovely. I'm not gonna lie, it was very nice, very similar, sort of I'm gonna say Nutella style filling to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Yeah, did you say hazelnut filling? Chocolate hazelnut, chocolate hazelnut, yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah, it makes sense. Nutella style, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Yeah, it it was lovely, very nice. Sorely recommend we'll be buying more of them.

unknown 1:36

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Um is that a deal or is it 75p all year round?

SPEAKER_02 1:40

75p all year round. They're not a special, they're in there quite a lot. I normally, to be fair, pick up the almond ones, but they didn't have any almond ones. So we thought we'd try the chocolate ones and yeah, we liked them.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Nice. What about yourself? What have you had? This week uh tried a new pizza from Sainsbury's.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

Pizza?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Yeah, new pizza. They got uh it's a new range, there's there's there's a couple in it. But the one I had, um, so it's this is that ultimate crust range.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

Ultimate crust. Well, what does that entail then?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

So ultimate crust, double pepperoni, and hot honey taste the difference. Pizza.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Posh ones, then.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Yes, yeah. So it is a cheese sauce stuffed crust pizza.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Um, enriched with extra virgin olive oil, topped with tomato sauce, mozzarella cheese, double pepperoni, and chili and honey dressing. Crust is coated with regato cheese and chili bread crumbs. It was very nice. So the actual front is slightly different. The front describes it as a bechamel sauce, and then if you read down, it's a little uh sorry, a parmesan bechamel sauce. I guess that's why it's a cheesy sauce. But yeah, it's very nice, really nice. Um, very impressed with it, really. The the only, I don't know, would say criticism, but the sorts of only criticism is uh the sauce in it when it wasn't very saucy by the time it like I wouldn't say congealed, probably sounds like a not a very nice term to say when you talk about food, but had a little bit. So the flavour was nice and everything. I think I would have liked it a little bit runny of the sauce, not not runny, but it wasn't on the level of like if you go to a dominoes or a normal stuff crust, where it's almost like a tube of mozzarella that's gone through it, which was definitely softer than that, but yeah, the whole thing was really nice. Um, again, I wouldn't say criticisms, but to be aware, you can see it on the photo, it's quite a thick crust. They've had to make quite thick, but it is a nice crust, so you don't completely feel you know that you're paying for a lot of dough on there. Now they are on the pricier end, £5.50 on offer at the moment. Uh, it's a fresh, not frozen one.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Uh, but £6.50 normally, I do think is very steep. That puts it firmly in the brand, like the top level of the brand, fresh.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Um, yeah, fresh pizzas. And that that I do think is a bit much. But you know, even £5.50 is on the end, but they are so good that you know we've got another one in for next week. So um, yeah, clearly it worked. But yes, I think I think often that's the thing with pizza, isn't it? Uh, if you do the homemade ones like we we do occasionally, yeah, the crust, because we like quite thin crust, you end up going almost flat. It's like part of the pizza, you can go right to the edge with everything. When you get them from supermarkets or anywhere else, the crust is sometimes you're not sure what to do with it in a sense. You need like a separate sauce or something for dipping in it, I find. But yeah, with this one, it was lovely on its own. And the breadcrumbs, it got had nice texture, and yeah, it was really nice.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Did that make it sort of go a bit crispy on there?

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Yes, yeah, exactly. They they went a bit crispy.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Um, whereas the rest of the pizza wasn't overly, as in we hadn't cooked it to like crisp up the pizza. I think that would have dried out the sauce inside a bit more. We we we cooked it, so the pizza was um nice, and then the breadcrumbs at first they were on the first slice, they're a bit soft, but once it slightly started to cool almost, they crisped up nicely.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Oh, nice. That does sound nice. I like I like a stuffed crust.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yeah, they do they do a vegetarian one. I can't remember what the other one, but it's like a garlic and mushrooms one or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Um on there.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

That's what Carly had, and yeah, yeah, and that was very nice as well.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Lovely jubly.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

So, yes, so that's uh new bites for this week, and that then leads us on to our main segment, which is the tasting grounds. It's the tasting grounds, right? This week we've got as it has become a customary, we have four items.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

I'm looking forward to all of these.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Yeah, again, it it sounds silly to say it everywhere, but it's true. I mean, I'm sure going forward as we have to branch out, we'll we'll come across items that we're not overly keen for, but we thought we'd better give it a try. Yeah, pushing ourselves out of the comfort zone. People might suggest something that we're we wouldn't pick ourselves because we wouldn't be keen on ever exactly, and I think you know, we owe it as um dedicated investigative journalists to try things even if they're not necessarily to our original palettes.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

So we're gonna challenge our taste.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

We've got challenge our taste, push we do this so other people don't have to. So for well, not first, in no particular order. We've got a new flavour of Twix on that, it does say new as well. Uh another flavour of Yorkie, which says limited edition on it.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

All right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

And then two, are these? Do you know if they're limited or if they're in permanently?

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Uh I think they're just they're permanent, they're not in the special bars, they're with the normal. There we go.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

And these were from Lidl?

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Lidl.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

So we've got two biscuits from Lidl that are well, they're chocolate-coated Bourbon chocolate-coated custard creams. Uh Marks and Spencer's have done them. Aldi have done a version at times.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Tesco's do a version of it.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

Yeah, quite quite a few brands have started or companies have started to do a version after I think it was Marks and Spencer's. Exactly. So, all that to get into. I think we start with the Twix.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

Okay. I like that packaging actually. I like the green, and I like the way the red stands out against the green.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

So, yes, this is the Twix Extra hazelnut flavour. New. Nice on here, yeah. Yes, um, it's a bright green packet, and it says Twix with the normal Twix writing, which is accented by gold on the outside of it. And um, yeah, it says extra in blue next to it. I the green, I don't know if I'm overly keen on the whole thing. I think they all work separately. I'm not sure about it together. There is a classic broken Twix on the front to show you, but it says hazelnut flavour in between, almost like on a caramel pull between the two bits, if you see what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Kind of like a But do you think the the caramel is hazelnut flavoured?

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Well, that that is the um the bit that's gonna we're gonna have to yeah, we're gonna have to work out. So if I can try and read, give me one second.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

I still think it's a nice green colour though.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

Yeah, it does so it says milk chocolate, covered caramel, and biscuit with hazelnut flavour. Uh-huh. So maybe it's like a flavour throughout. Maybe they've dipped the biscuit in it or something. But yeah, so it's in this green. It they're they're longer, the Twix Extra, I think, is their longer.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

It is quite long for a Twig.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

Yeah, so I think that is their long one. A bit like you know, the duos that you get from like Mars and other what like Sypage duos. I think this is their equivalent, so they are longer. Um 75 grams overall, two uh times uh two two sticks, 37 and a half grams each.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Classic Twix.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yes, exactly. But I think the like I say, I do think the extra is slightly um it is slightly longer uh on there. So that'll definitely add to it.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

It looks like a normal Twix to be fair, now it's out of the packet. It doesn't look any different, does it? Does it smell any different? It's hard to say. Smells like chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

It does, doesn't it? It does, yeah. It's not got a strong smell.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

At least when I opened the packet, I didn't hit with uh like a hazelnut smell or anything.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

No. No, no, it's definitely on that. It looks like so, like I say, the extra is their longer version, so it does look a bit long.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Hard to say these days, it's probably about twice the length of a normal Twix, but I was gonna say it does look a lot longer than a normal Twix, but then what is a normal Twix these days?

SPEAKER_00 9:42

That's what I'm saying. I think these days they've shrunk them down. Oh, we've got going very scientific on this.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

We're we're measuring them now, yeah. Glasses are out, 13 and a half centimetres.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

13 and a half centimetres.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

That's a substantial Twix finger.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

So it's a long Twix finger. Probably it. I mean, it looks these days about size double size of a Twix, but anyway, you get two fingers as as usual with these things. Um, and yeah, hazelnut flavour, camera. The green the green packaging, you like it. I'm not so sure I like green, but it's quite a bright green um on there. But the actual the thing itself looks like a normal Twix. So you from the outside, you would not tell any different to a normal Twix. Um, so should we give it a go?

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Absolutely, right.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

You if you took all the flavour away textually, it's a Twix, isn't it? Is it the same? Nice biscuit, nice caramel, nice bit of chocolate on top.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Yeah, it it was delicious, it was really nice. Really tasty. Pleasantly surprised by that because I did think it might be it's not even artificial flavouring, although it must be, but yeah, they've done it really well, the balance because it it's smooth all the way through.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

It's hard to tell where it's from. You know, you're not getting like if you just get a bit of biscuit, you get loads of hazelnut, and if you get the camera, you get nothing. It's very balanced throughout, and it just yeah, it's just a really nice, um, smooth hazelnut flavour throughout the whole thing. And it is definitely hazelnut flavour.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

You can yeah, definitely get that, don't you? Yeah, is that uh that's not a limited edition, that one is it?

SPEAKER_00 11:18

It just says new, it doesn't say and and I did see when I was researching the size, uh sorry, the the price and everything again to confirm. They do do the normal one, non-extra size.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

So yeah, oh right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yeah, so it it it's definitely available and in and well, I don't I I haven't found anything that says it's limited anyway. It just says new on it. So I mean I got got that. I think I started seeing them about a couple of weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

I haven't seen any, but I like a Twix, but if that was an option next to the normal Twixes, I would probably go for that.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

So this was part of the meal deal section in Morrison's. Oh, right. It was £1.50 or part of the meal deal. We we just bought it separately because that's why I saw it um on there. But yeah, £1.50 for that. I actually don't think that was too bad for that.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

It's a decent size, it is very decent size, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

And it's very satisfying, very tasty to eat, yes, isn't it? The whole thing's very nice, so yeah. I was a bit yeah, I was a bit uh unsure when I got it as well because I've we've all been burnt, I think, by artificial flavourings and too much. And hazelnut is a great one that goes with chocolate and is very nice, but um isn't always the best, so but the best done.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

So it's good to think that has been done very well. Well, well done, Twix, for that. I mean, that is very nice, very nice.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah, I think very nice. Uh very impressed with that. And so, what would you give that? Oh, so bearing in mind when we do take into account everything, take account price, the look of the packaging, not just price but value, because you know, something can be cheap but not great value, or something can be expensive, but you get 10 in a pack or something uh on there, and then obviously flavour is you know, probably takes up the bulk of it. But what would you give that out of 10 then?

SPEAKER_02 13:11

I'm gonna go 8.5 because I really enjoyed it, and I don't think it was too pricey because it is a substantial size Twix bar.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Yeah, I'm gonna go eight. I'm not not far from you at all. I really liked it, thought it was very good. Um, I I as I was thinking about it, as we said it, £1.50, it's borderline. I think if you can get it cheaper, it's a good deal. Uh £1.50 isn't a bad price considering what you get these days for £1.50 on there. But I do think we are pushing then into the higher bits, but uh delicious. Yeah, I definitely would um recommend it.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Oh, worth a try. If no, if you've not tried one, I would say go out and try one.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Yeah, if you like hazelnut in chocolate flavours, um, because I think I I'd had the Tony's chocolate hazelnut one the other day, and it's very much in that I know they've got actual hazelnuts in it, but it's honestly very, very similar in um taste to that. And the Ritter Sport one as well have that with hazelnuts in, and yeah, that that's definitely even though they again they've got real ones, that one tastes very real, which is a danger with using artificial, isn't it? Because it's so concentrated.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, sometimes you the flavour just doesn't the flavour balances off, yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

And that one it didn't that you know it wasn't too sweet because it added it wrong or anything like that. Yeah, no, very impressed with that, very impressed indeed. And um, yeah, well, that was in the meal deal section, as I said, kind of ties in with our next one, which is a limited edition Yorkie flavour.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

Oh this was a Yorkie duo.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Um I haven't seen this in the normal one, maybe, maybe it exists, I'm not sure. But uh, this is the limited edition Yorkie duo salted caramel pretzel flavour.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Oh, that does sound good.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

It sounds very good, very up our street with that kind of like sweet and salty in there. Um, yeah, very nice. Now the packaging is quite out there. It's like the Yorkie caramel, it's it's half gold, but the other half is turquoise, like quite a turquoisey colour, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Yeah, it's a yeah, it is. It's a it's a strange combination, but it does work. It is eye-catching, it does look good.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Yeah, where where with the Twix, I wasn't sure because I'm not neat the keenest on that green. I do think this quite works. The gold is very shiny like the normal Twix gold uh caramel, it is. Um, not Twix, sorry, Yorkie caramel is, and the turquoise is a bit more muted, it's a flatter colour, isn't it? It's not metallic y. Yeah, that's right, yeah. And has pretzel pattern all over it. Can you see that? Yes, I can. Yeah, sort of like pretzels in a slightly lighter and darker shades of turquoise throughout. Now, limited edition. I couldn't find anything on there to say how long the run is. I feel like I've seen this for quite a while in Sainsbury's. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

To be honest, I haven't seen them at all, but then I haven't been looking.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

So I've only seen them in Sainsbury's, and it's only because we occasionally get um meal deals from places like that. So, yeah, so that's why I I've only seen that. It doesn't mean when I've searched on like they they are in other places, but around us, that's where I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

It's the sort of thing that they sell in garages, only I don't go in to pay for petrol anymore. I always pay at pump.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

That is a good point. Maybe that is that is one of the things that are stopping some people see um these things as much. But it is a nice I yeah, I think it works as a and that again, it's a decent size as well, isn't it? So this is their duo, it is the duo because it goes with the um it goes with the uh a meal deal normally. That's what you see there. And it just, you know, looking, I did sorry, I I have found online they do a standard size one.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

A non-duo. Um and this is this is £1.35. So slightly, you know, 15 pence cheaper than the Twix.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Um how much does that one weigh then?

SPEAKER_00 17:03

This one weighs gonna be on here somewhere, isn't it? 66 grams. So is that 10 grams less than the yeah, 10 gram or 9 grams less on uh 15 pence, which actually you know just 10% cheaper, so kind of work actually.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Yeah, it's the same price per gram of chocolate, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Yeah, not far from it. 10% cheaper. Yeah, it's it's the ratio of why is not really much, but it would both be included as part of the middle.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

Um it says, I'm just gonna bring it out the salty caramel flavour, not chocolate with crack and gated. So the chocolate is caramel flavour.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Well, the chocolate is salty caramel flavour, so there's no caramel in there.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

No, no caramel in there. There is a picture on the front. Um like a cross section, you see. Yeah, you can see your chocolate with crack and get it. Um always a little bit of a risk because it can get a bit soft in there. Um you think obviously chocolate's healing it from the um, but for some reason they take it off and they get it.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Yeah, sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Yeah, but should we give it a go then?

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

No, that was something and nothing, really, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 18:39

It was cloying in the mouth.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

It was Yeah, I think Yorky has quite a unique texture, doesn't it? In a in a sense of it's quite blocky, but you can almost chew it in a way you can't with other chocolates that crisp. But my my first thought is just overpowering and not over not pleasant, uh salted caramel and like flavour. It was very artificial flavour.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Very artificial flavour. Um the pretzel bits, you couldn't really tell they were pretzel bits, you could tell there was like crunchy bits in the chocolate. Yeah, but the chocolate was not nice.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

No, I think I think well, texture-wise, the chocolate I think would be okay. And the pretzels, again, yeah, I agree, there weren't much on there, but I was just so overwhelmed. I couldn't taste any chocolate. I just tasted this weird, almost like burnt, but it's just artificial uh salted caramel or caramel. Again, I wouldn't have guessed that was salted caramel. No, but I artificial. I mean, anyone who's tried something with that with not with a very not pleasant artificial caramel flavour, that's what this is.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Yeah, it it was like you say, overpowering, not pleasant. I I hate to say it, but they've ruined a Yorkie bar. I did not enjoy that.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Yeah, yeah, I think I agree. I think that is it's gone, yeah. Well, it's worse than a normal Yorkie.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Those will be in home bargains for 29p next month.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Yes, I I mean again, similar, like we said, not not two different in price to the to the Twix. And I would say, well, that is way overpriced, as you said, because it's just not very nice. It's not very nice to be honest, I'd rather just not have had anything.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Yeah, I I uh I hate to say it. I mean, I love chocolate and I love a Yorkie, a raisin and biscuit Yorkie is one of my favourites, and that is such a disappointment compared to the other one.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Yeah, well, it's a massive disappointment on that because well, like I said, it's still in my mouth now this unpleasant artificial aftertaste. Now I get maybe they couldn't do the caramel. Well, actually, I don't get that. They've got Yorkie has quite a distinct square base, and then it has the bit on top. They could have had the base have the um just plain Yorkie with the pretzel bits in, and have the bit on top house the caramel, like real caramel, and I think that would have been a thousand times better.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Absolutely, that that was yeah, it's such a shame. I was really looking forward to it, and now I'm really disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Yeah, same, honestly. I feel genuinely, everyone. The mood's gone down in the room. It was absolutely I think, yeah, I quite like the branding and Yorkie. Uh I quite like, and yeah, it was just disappointing. And I say they ruined it, ruined a bar. Now, I didn't spit it out, so I've got to try and remember that one scoring it. Because there's but when we are scoring these things, I I I say every time we take everything into consideration, and there is a bit of brand identity that has disappointed us there. Because we we had an idea of what to expect and didn't really get any of that because um of the way they chosen to go with this.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

It was very disappointing, and yeah, I wouldn't be buying that again.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

No, no, no. So, with with all that in mind, what would you give it out of ten?

SPEAKER_02 21:53

I'm gonna go three because I really didn't enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you on that one. So I'm gonna go uh for. Three as well because I was massively disappointed. I was torn on you know two going down into the twos, but I thought I didn't spit it out. I I didn't I didn't yeah, I was I was disappointed, which adds into the fact because they kind of hit a lot of the aspects I would normally want with the advertiser. I was like, Oh, yeah, salted caramel pretzel sounds lovely. I like it when we've done it with ice creams and stuff. Millennium, that flavour profile is normally up my street, up your street as well.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

But yeah, the disappointment. So yeah, I think we'll both we'll both settle on threes there. Got to remember that I didn't spit it out, so even though I was disappointed, it's not inedible at some things, but yeah, it was not it wasn't pleasant, and I wouldn't have that again.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

And it I don't think you could eat a whole bar of that.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Even I would struggle because of how artificial that taste is. I had two out of my three bits, and that third bit I'm not I'm probably not gonna finish because it was just I'm not going to. It just wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

I'm gonna save my last bit for Dave so he can taste it.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Well, he can tell us what he thinks, yeah. Be interesting to know. Um, on there. So yeah, I I would say quite a major disappointment there.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Let's move on, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Move on, and hopefully something a bit tastier.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Something better.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

So, do you want to introduce uh the next item?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

The next item is the chocolate covered bauband creams from Lidl. These were still pricey, £2.49.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Oh, because I think sorry, I'll let you finish. No, no, no. I was gonna say, I think the Marks and Spencer's ones, weren't they like £3 or something? Isn't that why?

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Yeah, I think they were.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

£3 for six, is it, or £2.50 for six? How many do you get in in this one?

SPEAKER_02 23:44

I think you only get six. Hold on. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Yep, six.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Six. So this is, according to them, the biscuit you love, reimagined in a milk reimagined in milk chocolate for the ultimate treat.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Right. So it's it's a f it is a bore literally a Bournemouth biscuit with a thick chocolate coating on. Is that what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

It is, and there's only again, there's only six in the packet.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Um and you said two pound fifty for six.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

£2.49 for £50.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

£2.49 for six.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

So slightly cheaper than Marks and Spencer's.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

I think that is a little bit cheaper, yeah, as you say.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

I'm sure Marks and Spencer's were £2.99 or £3.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Yeah, I feel like it was up there because I feel like we were like laughing at you know, like £50p a biscuit, which seems like a lot when you normally get a packet for about £80p and it works out like, you know, £5p a biscuit or something. Um yeah, wow, that is that is pricey, particularly for one of the German brands like Little or Aldi.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Yeah, that's that's what I thought. I was a bit I saw them online and I was a bit bit shocked when I went to pick them up at the actual price, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

So it says go on chocolate flavoured filling sandwiched between chocolate flavoured biscuits, fully coated in milk chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

And I can say they are fully coated. Yes, they are. There isn't even like on the bottom sometimes where it hasn't normally you can like there's a bit of biscuit coming through or something, there's not really that on them. Quite weighty.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

They are quite weighty, but they're not a typical Bourbon size, are they?

SPEAKER_00 25:26

I would say that's the thing. We'll get onto it with the custard cream one. Yeah. Obviously, in the UK anyway, a Bourbon biscuit, a Bourbon cream, however they're called, uh, is quite long and thin.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Long and thin.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Long and a bit thin. And these are definitely more of a custard cream shape. So they they've definitely gone away with like done with tradition on that for the. Oh, definitely, yeah, they they were the same.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Yeah, they are they are definitely imitating the MS one.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

I I think I think that's safe to say, and I will say the packaging for me doesn't invoke Bourbon. I would have expected brown, not this kind of like orangey colour.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Browny orange, like I would have expected like a deeper brown.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Um it's quite substantial packaging because obviously it's got the they're in a plastic tray, so there's two in each section in the tray.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

And the packet on the outside definitely is you know a bit thicker.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

It's not thicker than your normal um little biscuit packaging. Definitely, so they are trying to be a bit more luxury, I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

And it definitely, I can I can see that, and I I do think it's difficult with that money. I do think that when we're starting to pay £2.50 for an own brand set of biscuits, we get six biscuits. Bearing in mind, at the same little, you bought um a chocolate hazelnut croissant fresh baked that day for 75p.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

75p, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

You know, it it you you could have got was that three with a bit of change of those for the price of this packet. Um so I do, yeah, it's definitely in the more expensive snacks range for them, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 27:06

It is, it is, yeah. But let's hope they're nice.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Well, that's that's it, you know. Often things can be forgiven if they're tasty. It's what we often buy with Marks and Spencer's, absolutely. But yeah, we're looking at it, it looks very much like you'd expect, but again, more of a castor cream shape. It definitely looks like a thick layer of chocolate all round, and obviously when we bite in, you'll be then able to see the cross section on it. Um, and I think yeah, we should just give it a go.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Well, that was very nice.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Yep, I completely agree.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

What's not to like then? Chocolate, chocolate, and chocolate, chocolate cream, chocolate, biscuit, and chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah, chocolate biscuit, chocolate cream, chocolate. I I think, yeah, very nice. Um, a nice surprise, but it is sweet. I will say. Yeah, I I couldn't have the whole packet on there because when you think, oh, there's only six there, is that going to be a challenge to eat? You wouldn't think so, but yeah, being very sweet, I think that does slow it down. Good or bad, on there, you just got to make sure you want something sweet because there is no other thing to it. Uh there's no, yeah, there's no sour or saltiness, it is just sweet.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

It's very sweet, very nice, though. I mean, I I like I'm a biscuit dunker and you couldn't dunk those.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

You you'd have a struggle because yeah, I mean, you could you you can try, you but you yeah, probably would struggle.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

You'd make a mess, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Yeah, you'd make a mess because they were they were yeah, they were already melting in our hands, as we said, weren't they? As we tried them.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

I mean, it is particularly warm today, so yeah, but in here it's reasonably normal.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

I know it doesn't help, but it it, you know, you wouldn't have that with a digestive issue because you've got the back to to be able to hold on to. But yeah, uh the the cream was really nice in the middle of the ball, but definitely all of it is thicker than a standard bauburn you'd get, so you get more cream in the middle, you get a slightly thicker biscuit, and then the chocolate. My only I wouldn't say it's a criticism because I think the Mark Spencer ones had a similar issue. It's very, very thick on top, which is nice. You get the bite into it, it's nice. On the sides and on the bottom, it's a very thin layer. Now it didn't look from the outside, it kind of looked like there was a decent layer on the bottom because it covered up all the biscuit marks like lumps and bumps and stuff like on there, but it was when you when you did the cross section quite thin on the sides.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Yeah, you don't see it till you bite into it, do you?

SPEAKER_00 29:31

No, but I'm just sort of looking on the I'm just sort of looking on the cross section they show on the um packet. And actually, I think they they oversell the sides in the bottom, I think, on that. It's definitely thinner than that. Yeah, I'm not gonna say it takes away from it, but it's definitely um something to bear in mind because it is it does mean there's a large concentration on top, which I don't mind. No, but some people might find that it's a bit too thick on top.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

No, I I'm not gonna lie, it was it was very nice. Would I buy them again at that price? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Well, that's the next thing, isn't it? Is it it's all good and well at being very tasty at that price, it's it it feels hard to justify.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

I mean I think whereas in Mark Suspencer's you don't query paying because it's Marks and Spencer's. In Lidl, I'm feeling a little bit put out that these were £2.49. I'm not gonna lie, even though they're very nice, I'm still a little bit put out at the price.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

I know exactly what you mean. Um, Mark Suspencer's has a bit of prestige about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Yes, it does on there.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Lidl does not, and that's you know, absolutely fine. It's kind of not meant to. That's sort of the fun of Lidl and Aldi, isn't it? Is that you know they are meant to be a bit more stripped back.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Yeah. I mean, these are the Tower Gate chocolate coated Bourbon creams, so it's not even like the Little Deluxe.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Deluxe or anything, no.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

I do feel that price is a little bit if they'd been $1.99, I'd probably have been happier with that.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

I think I think $1.99 feels more appropriate because once it feels like they saw the Mark Suspensers ones were let's say £3 is what we think, and or £2.99, and they went, Oh, that means we can charge £249, not not what it actually cost plus profit or anything like that. Again, I don't know, but when you see how cheap a normal custard cream or a normal bob can be, you know, the packets for like 50p with you know a reasonable number in there, it feels very unlikely that this is all of a sudden, you know, a logistical and manufacturing cost that cannot be comprehended without charging a lot of money. Because out of a normal packet of custard cream, you'd be able to generate three or four packets of that in terms of just from the quantity, you know. Yeah, so yeah, I know it's not quite as simple as literally just taking them out of that packet and then dunking them in chocolate, but also they could have done that, and I think it would have been just as nice with Bourbons and the same. So, yeah, but overall, very nice flavour.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Oh, it's it's it's a nice biscuit, and if somebody offered me one, I would take them.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

I'm just not sure at that price I would repurchase.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

Yeah, no, I agree. I think I think I think it's a big consideration, as we always stress, price has to come into consideration. I mean, I think this is actually one where value is is a big consideration because price-wise, I think the price is hard because in the market, that's about right for what the market is. But when you add in the value proposition of getting six of those from a little own brand, not even their deluxe range, yeah, it feels very much like that the value isn't there. If they had, and it sounds silly to say, but if they had made the package in the black and gold and had little deluxe and that, maybe they could have pushed it that far.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Yes, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

On there, because you know, we can't be we can't be naive, marketing, and everything works. That's why they spend a fortune on these things. But yeah, for that price, I I agree. I think it's a bit pushing it.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

I've just worked it out, it's 41 and a half pence per biscuit.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Which again feels steep when you when you're in that that range for what it is because that's per biscuit when again a packet of custard creams, that's less than that. You probably get you probably get about you know 10 to 20 custard creams for that price.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

So again, for a bit of chocolate, you could buy your own chocolate bar from Little and do it, you know, warm that in the microwave and coat them in it. In fact, we probably should do that just to see, just to see if it's better and how much it would cost us to do, yeah, versus that. It's just a good idea. We'll try that at some point.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Because I did buy some cheap of the um cheap little chocolate, and I think it was 59p a bar.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

How many biscuits you could probably coat six biscuits with that, to be fair.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Yeah, exactly. So yeah, maybe we'll give that a go then at some point because actually that that might be nice. Um, but yeah, so with all that factored in, what's what's your score out of uh 10?

SPEAKER_02 33:58

I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go 5.5. It's a nice biscuit, I'm not gonna lie, but the price is off-putting for me.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Okay, I'm not I'm not million miles away. I was gonna go for a 6.2 in there because I didn't think it was quite as low as a six, but um I couldn't push any higher for the exact same reason. I think the price is a bit high. $1.99, I think, is the price point they should have aimed for with that to make it more reasonable. And even then, I would have gone, it's on the top end of what I'd pay, but it's nice. I mean, it's the reason why I don't think we've bought the Martin Suspensive one since we had them, is because that it seems pricey. Uh, but but for these ones, definitely, uh, with with when you take into consideration everything, I think it's hard to justify a £2.49 price point from a live alone brand for six biscuits, is what we're talking here.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

Yeah. And if you look at other places, so Tesco's do their own version of these, Tesco's are £2.50. Home Bargains, we've had the home bargains, they were one of the £49. And that I'm more than happy to pay that.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

I will say the Home Bargains ones, not to review all of them in this segment, the Home Bargains ones felt more like a penguin-style biscuit though. There wasn't, even though they marketed that, they didn't really. I I felt like it wasn't the chocolate all the way around, wasn't the stick, and it definitely had a little bit, I could see why they were cheaper than everyone else's. But yeah, I do I do think you know, Tesco's charging £2.50. Well, again, that must be where the price is, but usually little and aldi aim to be the price point cheaper. And actually, you know, they do all these advertising. Now I know that these aren't meant to be part of a regular weekly shop for a family of four to do the price comparisons, but once again, showing it's not actually always cheaper to go to uh someone little and aldi, especially when I don't think there would be a huge amount of difference between the other ones either. So they're not selling it on being cheaper and better quality, like they often do. A lot of their stuff is cheaper and better quality.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Yes, it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

But this is just the same as some of its competitors. Yes, it's cheaper than Mark Spencer, but didn't have the prestige. And I'd probably say I think the Mark Spencer chocolate was a little bit nicer.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

I think it was. I mean, these were nice, I'm not complaining, they were nice, but yeah, the Marks and Spencer's just have the edge over them, I think.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

So yeah, so 6.2 from me and uh 5.5 from you, and I think, yeah, price price is a big, big factor in there. It is, it is right, and then that leads us on to the next one, which is the same range, their chocolate-coated range, but chocolate-coated custard creams. Yes, on here, the biscuit you love reimagined in milk chocolate for the ultimate treat, says on there. So I think it's well, it's not too different to a custard cream apart from it's got the chocolate on the outside, and I actually think this might be a little bit nicer than the Bourbons because it's a bit different, is it as in there's a bit more contrast?

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Yeah, the the Bourbon was very chocolatey and it was nice, but maybe a bit overpowering with all the chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Ver very nice, yeah, and it is overpowering with the chocolate. Again, a custard cream is a sweet biscuit. It's not we're not we're not talking about it now going to be contrasting by having savory in it, but having that slightly more vanilla-y, maybe neutral flavour with the chocolate, I think might be might be a bit nicer.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

I think it might work well, yes.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Packaging-wise, this to me, I do think is better. It says more custard cream, custard creams traditionally, at least in my experience, have quite a yellow packet. Yeah, and that's what this is. Yet fine, it's not the exact yellow, but it it's yellow. If you if you'd asked me and covered up the custard cream bit in the photo, what biscuit does this evoke? I'd say custard cream probably.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

Yeah, so with that, um yeah, I think I think it looks like Tower Gate, same brand, it's the exact same, I think, series, isn't it? So same brand, everything on there. So I'm gonna guess then, same price.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Same price, £2.49.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

£2.49 for six.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

For six.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Which, yeah, we I mean we've been through that and we'll I'm sure we'll get into that a bit after we try it. Yeah. But shall we um give this one a go?

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

I think that was nicer.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

I agree.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

That vanilla custody biscuit with the chocolate worked really well. I don't think I don't think it was quite, I mean it's a sweet biscuit, but I don't think it is quite as sweet as the ballroom was.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Not having the triple chocolate effect, I do think helped. And it was nice to have that contrast. I do think the cream, the custody vanilla-y cream in the middle was a little bit more subtle than on a normal custard cream. Yeah. Whether that's just because it's hard to get any on its own, and so you you have a thick layer of chocolate and biscuit to to accompany it. But I think overall I thought it was nicer.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Yeah, I I would say I prefer that to the chocolate cover ball and one.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Yeah, it's still hard to stomach the price for a regular purchase. Now, we're looking at this, you know. Sometimes you want to try snacks, different snacks, sometimes you want uh a comforting one, the one that you know how it goes. But it's quite hard to other than a I'm gonna try it, unless this became your absolute favourite thing you've ever had, it would be hard to repurchase at £2.50 every week, you know, or every couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Oh, it's yeah, it's not an it's not an every week, it's a special occasion treat.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Yeah, at most it is, yeah, I I think. And that's a shame because it is nice, but I I just think, yeah, that £2.50 price point kind of ruins it a little bit, doesn't that?

SPEAKER_02 39:37

It does, it's a shame, but yeah, I mean it's very similar to the Bourbon.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yeah, they we had to actually keep one of them in the packet, didn't we, and distribute out because they look almost identical. Yeah, which you would never get with a normal non-chocolate covered, and even if you just took normal ones and covered them in chocolate, they wouldn't look the same. No, yeah, they soon because they'd gone for that same form factor, you they they were indistinguishable. But yeah, inside was different, and yeah, I do think we're a bit nicer on there. Still very sweet, but less, less sweet, less aggressive because you know the custody vanilla y cream is obviously less sweet than a chocolate cream.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

I think it worked very well with the chocolate covering.

SPEAKER_00 40:17

It it's it's it does work, it's a classic, it's a classic combo. Absolutely, yeah, it does work. Um, and with that in mind, price everything. What would you what would you score out of ten?

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Oh, this is tough. I'm gonna go slightly higher because I did think it was nicer overall. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna give this one a six and a half.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

Okay, yeah, so I was gonna go six and a half, slightly higher than my last one. Yours was quite a jump. You went up a whole point on that.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

Yeah, because I did find that I did think they were nicer. That the flavour-wise, they were nicer, a lot nicer, I thought, than the ball ones I liked the ball ones, don't get me wrong, but the custard cream ones are actually, I think, a lot nicer than the ball ones.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

You definitely could eat more of them, not that that's the only way to judge these, but you could definitely eat more of those, I think, than the ballboards. That's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Yeah, the chocolate ones were overpoweringly sweet, I thought. Nice, don't get me wrong, but yeah, those, yeah, definitely nicer.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

So for me, the 0.3 jump wasn't a big jump because overall I did like it more.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

I it's the price.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Yeah, prop price is a massive factor in it on these ones, but I did like it better, so that's when we went higher. The difference is purely a flavour one. I didn't think it was that much of a difference. I probably liked it a little bit less than you in terms of overall flavour, but or at least thought they were closer together. But I do agree these are nicer and it works a bit better. There we go. Well, that concludes the tasting grounds for this week. It does. Um, I think you know, quite interesting to have a few different things um this week, especially compared to what we've had in the past with uh doing the Asian foods last week. Yes. And everything. So now we move on to Debbie's Fun Fact. Debbie's fun facts. Debbie's Fun Facts is our usually our closing segment. Um mum, yeah, you give us a fun fact to do with food. Uh what have we got for what have you got for us this week?

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Well, this week, in keeping with our biscuit theme, nice. Um, I've discovered that digestive biscuits were the original ultimate health food. They were actually invented in 1839 by two Scottish doctors to help cure indigestion.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

Are they not health food currently? Is that what we're saying? Well, we're not supposed to be shoveling digestive, so I'm not feeling well.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

I quite like that idea, to be fair. If you've got a bit of indigestion, eat a few digestive. Although, if I'm totally honest, I think they would probably make it worse.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

What about chocolate digestive? Where are we on that for health food status?

SPEAKER_02 42:58

Um, currently, in my books, they're very good for you.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Okay, so that's the campaign, is it? Campaign for chocolate digestive to be considered a health food. That's that that's the that's our voting platform standpoint.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

I mean, I love a chocolate digestive. I am surprised that digesters were invented for that reason, but hey ho, and now what year was that? 1839, believe it or not.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Oh, okay. So yeah, but I mean, not that far from 200 years, or we were talking about you know, 100 years that chocolate's been in the thing, so yeah, 200, almost 200 years. No, yeah. That's that's older than I thought. I suppose they had treats back in the day. You just don't think anything from back then has survived too much because we've evolved quite a lot, but actually a normal digestive is still sold today as a still a classic biscuit, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yes, and I don't mind a normal digestive. Obviously, I prefer a chocolate one, and I I do like all the many different flavoured chocolate digestives that you can get. But a a basic digestive in a cup of tea, not bad at all.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

They are nice, and I will say they're also one of my favourites in a cheese board biscuit set. You know, you get the digestive in that, don't you? Yes, um, they work very well in that.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

They do. Actually, that with a good strong cheddar is not bad.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Exactly. A strong cheese with that, the sweetness and the strong cheese balance really nicely. I think that's like an underrated. I mean, I would it feels weird because you get you buy your box of biscuits and you've got the digestive one there, you know it's basically a digestive biscuit and you have it, but you'd feel a bit like a madman going out and buying a packet of digestive to have a cheese on them, yeah. Rather than getting, I mean, the classic would be is it the hovis breadloaf kind of shaped digest biscuit to have your cheese on. Feels like a normal round one. If I put blue cheese on that or a strong cheddar, I'd I'd look insane, but you would.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

And it means we only ingies at Christmas, because you Yeah, it's true, yeah. When you get your box of crackers at Christmas, and then I look forward to the digestive ones, I must admit, or the like you say, the Hovey shaped ones.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

You don't see them Hovey shaped ones, do you?

SPEAKER_00 45:06

No, well, I think you have to buy the Jacobs cracker box, don't you, to get them? And actually, whilst they're very nice, I've been buying these years more like the Aldi luxury box and that.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

I still buy the Jacobs ones because I like the big plastic box they come in.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Well, yeah, it's just not as big as it used to be, I feel like. Nothing is, but you know, that's a a separate topic. But no, thank you for that. That was interesting to learn that, especially about the original use as um as an aid to indigestion.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

I'm guessing that's why they're called digestive.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Well, there you go. Actually, that's a really hadn't thought about that. Maybe that's something else to look up for another fun fact. But yes, well, thank you everybody for listening.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

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SPEAKER_00 45:47

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SPEAKER_02 46:06

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SPEAKER_00 46:06

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