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Finding a Sense of Humor in Everything (with Kerry Coddett)
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SPEAKER_04Where everybody is like hyperfixated on how the fuck we're different, I'm just leaning the opposite direction because I don't have the energy to fight or to point fingers or to scream or to worry about who's bad and who's evil. I'm just trying to focus on doing good and being good.
SPEAKER_08Hey, welcome to the Father's Cheat Sheet. I'm Andrew, your fatherless friend, your buddy, and we're here talking Brooklyn storytelling. I grew up in Brooklyn. That's where I grew up. Of course I did. Look at me. I had the map of the subway on my face. Unless I grew up in Rome, you know, there I was in Brooklyn. But today's guest is Carrie Codett. She's a very talented writer, comedian, actress, director, producer. She does a little bit of everything and she does it well. And she grew up in Brooklyn as well. We talk a little bit about how our surroundings shaped our creative. And you just, you know what? What happens is this. Fatherlessness aside, is you grow up sooner in the city. That's it. There's nothing more to say about it. When you're eight years old and you're schlepping two bags of laundry down the street for two blocks and you do harder things. God forbid my children will not have to drag bags of laundry down the street. They'll learn how to do it before college, but they're not gonna have to do that. So it just it does shape you. The the rich characters in Brooklyn, in New York City, it's a very unique place. Oftentimes it's a hard place that makes hard people, but there are some really wonderful people with wonderful stories and rich histories. And when my grandpa who I I loved so much when he came over here, the classic story, he came was born in 1900, came over to America in 1914 as a 14-year-old, and moved to Brooklyn and you know, made a life for his family out in Long Island, building roofs and driving trucks, quite literally living the American dream. But his first stop was Brooklyn. And he had that boy, he had that sharp wit that was absolutely honed in that borough. And uh I think that uh I don't know. Anyway, so Carrie, great conversation. She's lovely, she's funny, and I just I get a real kick out of her. And she was in Stickman. I'm gonna keep talking about this show. You have to understand something about Stickman. Stickman was one of the highlights of my of my career thus far. And I really like it loved that show, and she was great in the show. And I don't talk about it much with Kerry because I don't want to bother about it. But we get to hear about her projects, and we had a really fun conversation. I hope you like it. So, the fatherless cheat sheet. Hey guys, welcome to The Father's Cheat Sheet. I have Joy from Stickman. No, I have Kerry Cottett with me. Fantastic, fantastic comedic, actress, writer, director, producer. She's doing a lot of everything right now, and I'm so glad she's joining us. Gary, hi.
SPEAKER_04Hi, Andrew. So good to see you.
SPEAKER_08You too. It's really nice to see you. Thank you. Thanks for coming. And I have I have a lot I want to talk to you about. I I honestly, what in sort of since since Thick Men, I don't want to talk about that too much because it is what it is, but you were really a pleasure. You're, I'm gonna give you a little bit of insider baseball, no pun intended, uh-uh, into that. We had a completely different idea of of your role, and then you came in and like we kind of half rewrote the role because we're like, nope, this is this is the person, this is the actress, this is the the person that's gonna be doing this in the show. Yeah, and it was like it was sort of a no-brainer. We had some fun scenes, and it was just really fun. And honestly, at the end of the day, so few people make me genuinely laugh. It's a true fact. And and you're also just very kind. So I just want to go down memory lane for two seconds. I don't want to bore anybody, but anyway, nice to see you.
SPEAKER_04Nice to see you too. That seemed like so long ago.
SPEAKER_08It feels like long, it feels like a lifetime and a half for me. It's a couple ch children, a couple children, a marriage. I'm still married. Don't worry. But um, anyways, but you've been you've been really, really busy. I want to dig into all that stuff or your project specifically. But the first thing I want to talk about is your the ease at which you operate comedically and the savvy you have, there's like there's an unforced nature in what you do and talk about. And I can't help but think obviously it's intrinsically you, but also maybe a little bit of Brooklyn as well. You kind of, right? Uh and we share growing up in Brooklyn. You talk, can you talk a little bit about how how where you and we come from kind of helps that comedic process, that creative process a little bit?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine being from another place than Brooklyn. Um, so it's tough to even, it's so much a part of like who I am. And I know that people are like being from Brooklyn isn't a personality, but those are people who are not from Brooklyn. And so I get, I get if you're not from Brooklyn, why you don't understand, but there's just something that we have. Like I just moved to LA, and you know, as an East Coaster and a Brooklyn girl, I'm not supposed to like it, but I love LA for so many reasons. But chief among them is also that I get to be in LA as somebody from Brooklyn. And so I show up differently. I walk differently. I'm not abiding by the rules. Your aesthetic is not my aesthetic. I like what what's like like I I just I just, you know, and so growing up in New York, it's like we call it how we see it. We're just straightforward and we know how to roll with the punches.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and I think that's partly, I mean, when just the sheer proximity that you are to others in Brooklyn, I think you just have to grow up kind of quickly and be able to deal with adults as a kid. And that's a lot we talk about on the show, sort of growing up a little soon. But you know, I'm going to the dry cleaner at at seven or eight years old and having to do a transaction, it kind of it kind of leaves an indelible mark on your character as you as you go forward. You're taking the subway, you're dealing with people, you know what I mean? So how how do you creatively in in in those writers' rooms and when you're developing shows and being a showrunner and an actress, how do you uh navigate it when so many different people just don't understand sort of what it means to be from such a unique place?
SPEAKER_04Um I don't really navigate it at all. Um it's not actually like I'm not concerned with how other people perceive me, really. I'm just I'm just literally doing me, and I just show up whoever I am, and I don't make any apologies for it. I don't act any differently, I don't have a different voice, I don't post switch, I don't have a work voice and a friend voice and a house voice. This is the way I speak, this is who I am. And so I just love getting to be me. Like all the things that make me me, I like getting to do that because I have fun, I don't take shit seriously, and I'm learning that people don't expect that. They don't expect like joy in the small moments. Like I'm on the phone with the IRS because I owe them way too much fucking money. But I'm making the IRS ladies laugh, and I'm just, we're just having a good time. And you could tell it just catches her by surprise because it's a humorless, joyless job, but life is too short for that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and I think that's a part of what I've seen a lot in your stuff over the years, because I have been a fan and been following you, and I just enjoy the uh first of all, just you're super sharp. Being funny, there's no you cannot be funny without being intelligent. That's it. It's not an it's not even a conversation. And the second thing is about what you do is that it's very accessible, like it's very relatable. And I think that a lot of comedians now, and everybody's trying, comedy's really hard, but people try to sort of shove things down your throat. And I think your approach is is like you said, you could, you're it's it's connective tissue. You can talk to that person on the phone about this big, this big issue. They're they don't want to be there, you don't want to be there on the phone with them, and you're probably really making her laugh in a genuine way, and that's a real talent. So it's you know, keep keep doing that because we need that. We need that.
SPEAKER_06I'll try. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yes, absolutely. And I wanted to I wanted to a little bit of um unrelated thing, but related because creative. So uh you were in fashion for a while. My my there's a connection. My wife has been in fashion for many years, so I I wanted to just sort of get that out there, sort of for her. She'd get a kick out of it. But are you do you like what was what was the first thing you did in fashion and like what kind of shook out with that? You're obviously very stylish in general from what I see, you know, socials and stuff. You are. But tell me about fashion just a little bit before we get onto some of your projects.
SPEAKER_04Sure. I mean, everything that I'm doing now, I've always been doing. And it's so interesting to look back in hindsight to realize that I was always a storyteller. Always. And so I even think that my love of fashion is part of storytelling, how I express myself. I grew up like my grandmother was a seamstress, and so she taught me how to sew. And I started like a design club in sixth grade, and I've always been making stuff. And when I started doing like comedy and music videos and sketches, I've always designed and costume designed the things that that I put on. And like I've always connected fashion to like making a statement. And so I remember the very one of the first things I sold was in high school. And um, I sold like fuck the police t-shirts. Everything said fuck. It was like fuck the police, fuck George Bush, and I was fuck milk, got ganja. Do you remember the got milk ads of like the early 2000s? Got milk? So I was like, fuck milk, got ganja. And I was like 15, and I went out into the streets in Soho and I sold them for like $20 a pop, and I would make like $400 a day. And it was just like, fuck the police, fuck milk, got weed. And then it just evolved through like college. I always was like making things, and then yeah, I make shit and I figure out how to sell it because I only want to make money doing the things that I like and want to do.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Yeah, that's that sounds about right. I like that.
SPEAKER_04The way this economy is going, I might have to do something strange for that change. But we're hoping it doesn't come to that.
SPEAKER_08Well, I have a I have a feeling you'll be you'll be showrunning, you'll sell a show. Something's something's cooking with all that stuff. I have a good feeling about it for you, because uh there's a a lot of there's a great voice and uh a lot of talent there. And I think it's you're saying stuff people want to hear about. Uh I want to hear about these great projects you're doing right now. Zeke, Mudhole. Can we talk about those a little bit?
SPEAKER_04Ha ha ha. Yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_08Okay. Okay. Tell tell us about Zeke first a little bit.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Zeke is my directorial debut. It's my first short film. It um premiered in June at the American Black Film Festival, and we've been like just tearing up the festival circuit. I'm so grateful we've won a bunch of awards. And so the film is a very, very New York story, and it's kind of unexpected. Um, because it's about a guy who goes to the barber and he gets his hairline pushed back, but for some reason he keeps going over and over and over and over again. But the real message underneath the film is it's about grooming. Grooming in the in the sexual way, the way that predators groom people, and grooming literally in the barbershop. The whole film is a double entendre, so to speak. Because how I came up with the idea is based on like, you know, all the me too stuff that was happening. And even recently with like Diddy and Cassie, I'd be talking to like a lot of my guy friends, and they wouldn't be able to understand why women keep going back. They'd be like, Well, if it was so bad, why do you keep going back? And I'm like, well, why do you keep going back to your barber? Like, he's he's always late. And especially like with black men, their barber is the closest thing they'll ever have to a therapist. Their barber, like, if they find a barber that they like, they're not leaving him, so they put up with all this bullshit. And they would be like, oh shit, you're right. And so the film is really just a way to take this. I think that men and women are always so far apart. Um, y'all in the manosphere, I'm in the, I don't even know what the female equivalent is, but we're always just yelling at each other. And I feel like when it comes to like sexual assault and shit like that, it's hard for men to even fathom because they're not women. But if you take away all of that and talk about just being in the barber's chair and having him mess up your hair and you not saying anything because you don't want to argue because your barber's your friend, and he gaslights you and is like, oh no, it's fine. And you go home and you see it's clearly not fine, and you find different ways to cope and you do all these things and you keep going back because you don't want to start all over. Like that's what we've been trying to tell men that that it's like being a woman with these things. And so the film has just um really been a great conversation piece. It's hilarious, um, if I do say so myself, and it really I I can't wait for you to see the film because it really, it's it's it's really awesome. And I'm happy. I do.
SPEAKER_08I want to see I want to see it. That's fantastic. And I and I and I uh boy, am I rooting for you? And I think that when you can get such a serious message out there in a way that's that's sort of uh almost comedic and like it has different, I know it has different sort of tentacles to it. It's it's sort of a really interesting way in, and it and it does, those are the things that do start the important conversation. So that's really great. And I'm rooting for you. I know you're doing some some fundraising and things like that to keep this thing moving forward, and I think that's really wonderful. Thank you.
SPEAKER_04Thank you. So that's been a labor of love.
SPEAKER_08You got it. Yes. And as a look, as it as it always is, and I think that when you're as creative as yourself, myself, you you have to get that steam out. You have there there's no choice but to get the thing out into the world. And it's just right, it's important to do that. Especially when you're saying something like you're saying in this in this short film. So but now I wanna you got it. I want to talk about as well. I know you do you do stand-up. I think there's your mud hole. I want to talk about mud hole because I think this is important as well. It's a I think being able to do a one-woman show to put yourself out there in that kind of vulnerable way is is sort of truly impressive. It's a little bit different than everybody's out there drinking whiskey sours and, you know, having splitting mozzarella sticks and cashing out on your last joke. It's not stand-up. It's a little bit different. It's more theatrical. Can you tell us about Mudhole a little bit?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, thank you for actually pointing that out because um, you know, stand-ups do solo shows as stand-ups. And so this is very much a theatrical one-woman show. I'm playing 17 different characters in it. Um, I'm extremely physical. There's choreography, there's there's regular choreography, like dancing choreography, because you know I used to be a professional dancer. And there's also like fight choreography. I'm rapping in it. So there's like musical, there's improv. There's like, it's all these things. And it is like my love letter to, I don't even know. Love letter is such a strong word for it, because if you see it, you're like, oh, this is some real, it's like very vulnerable. It's about my life. It's a coming of age story, but it's also another, it's a New York story, but it's also um just about growing up and being an adolescent and going through, so I had a really tumultuous school journey. Like I went to a private school that was really small, and it was Christian and Caribbean and all black people, and um I was always me. I always had this big personality. And when you go to any type of religious school that requires you to pray in the morning and wear a uniform, they have ideas about who you should be and they want to fit you in these boxes. And I was never that, and I was always very smart, and I always ask a lot of questions, and I was always challenging the authority, and so I was both the gifted kid and the bad kid. Like I got skipped two grades, so I was the youngest, but I was also fucking menaced, and they didn't really know what to do with me. Yeah. So the whole story is just about what happens when I go into the world and I'm we a lot younger, and I go to Brooklyn Tech, which is the one of the largest uh high schools in the country, and I'm trying to figure it out, and I go through the wrong crowd, and then I I end up coming back and winning, and it's just like a a triumphant story about being resilient, about defining yourself for yourself, and um finding the sense of humor and everything.
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SPEAKER_08Yeah, and it's uh 17 different roles. Wow. How does that how does tell me how how do you even like start working on that? Is it and are there people that obviously you knew along the way? So you start with sort of that's the the basis, right? So these folks that maybe you met along the way, some are made up. Like what how does that even work?
SPEAKER_04It's a hundred percent true. There's not a single thing fabricated in in the story. And um, it came to me in the pandemic. Like I've always wanted to do a one-woman show and thought I would do it, and never thought about what it would look like um or what the process would be. And during the pandemic, one night I literally woke up at like 3 a.m. and it just poured out of me. And like I'll go into like these, they're not manic because I'm very focused and dialed in, but it is a kind of mania that overcomes me. And I cannot sleep, and I'm in a flow, and I'm at the desk for like eight hours, just like smoking some sativa, drinking some coffee, locked the fuck in. And I just it just really poured out of me. And I remember writing my sister, because we lived together at the time. I wrote her a note, and I was like, I just wrote, we've my sister is my best friend, she's my producing partner, she's my manager, we do everything together. So she's used to this. I've been doing some version of the shit my whole life where I'll be so excited and I don't want to wake her up. So I'll be like, as soon as you wake up, you need to see what I've just created. And so I wrote her a note, and I was like, I just wrote this show that's gonna change our lives. And I signed it and I dated it, and I threw it underneath her thing. And now I'm about to do it at the Netflix is a joke festival here in LA. Amazing. Amazing. And um, Lena Waith just signed on to be a producer. And so I'm punked.
SPEAKER_08Congratulations.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_08Go get it. That's really great. And you know, it's so funny too. I had so I have two, I have two daughters, uh uh almost six and um four in in July. And like the thing that stuck out was that your sister's your best friend. Like, I love to hear that because I just want them to have that's so sweet and and amazing. Are they close?
SPEAKER_04I mean, they're four and six. They don't have a choice.
SPEAKER_08They don't have a choice, but but they are. They kind of they toggle between, you know, uh hair pulling and pushing and then just just hugging and loving on each other. They're probab they're much closer than they they have any kind of uh issue or conflict. Uh uh anyway, we're talking about I just mean it was it's nice to hear that you and your sister are uh I love that. I love hearing.
SPEAKER_04About like this. That's you cannot imagine a closer group is disgusting.
SPEAKER_08Because, like, so the the whole show, the whole basis of this show, the fatherless cheat sheet. My, you know, my old man passed away when I'm always ready. Like, I got the life insurance. I'm always ready to get out of here if I had to, God forbid. So I'm like, girls, you gotta understand something. Mommy and I are not gonna be around forever. I'm always like you're one of those. No, no, not really. Not really. I'm always emotionally doomsday prepping them, you know. So not I'm not. I know. They're little. So but uh No, but that's how my grandparents were.
SPEAKER_04I was like, oh my God, my grandfather, he lived to 98. He was dying my whole life. I'm just like, bro.
SPEAKER_08That's it. That's oh my God. So it's so funny you said my grand, my grandpa died at 100 as well. You know, he died at 100 years old. Oh, speaking of, I want to ask you about one more thing. And my not one, I want to ask you about a million things, but I don't want to take too much of your time. But you did a, you did a uh you wrote a show called Blood in Babylon. Is that what it's called?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Okay. It what you're not talking about Babylon Long Island, are you? Sure I am. Come on. So I spent my summers, I grew up in Brooklyn, but my my family, my grandpa and my aunt and uncle were out there. I spent all my summers in Babylon, West Babylon.
SPEAKER_06Whoa.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah. Like my mom used to say I was like one of those kids that they shipped out to the country for the summers because she couldn't, you know, she didn't know what to do with me. I was a boy, she's a you know, a single working mom. Yeah. She's like, you gotta you gotta get the hell out of here. So I spent all my summers in in Babylon, West Babylon. All my movies are at the Babylon Theater and everything. Anyway, tell us about the show Blood in Babylon and and what you're doing with that.
SPEAKER_04That is so funny. Um so it's based off a book, and the original book um is called Sunrise Highway. Of course.
SPEAKER_08Okay.
SPEAKER_04Is about the it's the book itself is based on, or loosely based on, the Long Island serial killer.
SPEAKER_08Okay.
SPEAKER_04And so this book came out um some years ago, and the Long Island Serial Killer is on trial right now as we speak. So the motherfucker was out there for a long time and getting away with it. Nonetheless, um, I wrote on a drama for Apple TV in like 2024, and one of the EPs, he is a journalist. He used to work on Law and Order uh for years. It was his novel. And when the room wrapped, he was like, take, just read this book and see if it speaks to you. And so I read the book Sunrise Highway, and I loved the book and thought it was so cool. And the reason I moved to LA is because I applied for this fellowship program that's founded by the head of Netflix's head of film. And so to apply for this fellowship, you had to have several ideas. Two of them had to be original, one had to be based on IP. And because I just read Sunrise Highway, I was like, oh, well, let me just write on one page for this fellowship and um see if they like it. And so that's the project that they chose for me to work on and develop. So I've been developing that project for an entire year. And so I've turned it into my own, it's an adaptation, it's a loose adaptation. So it's still loosely based on the Long Island serial killer, but um and it's set in b Babylon, um, Long Island, but my lead detective, she is NYPD. And so it's about this NYPD officer from Queens, um, who a missing body washes up on shore and it's on the border of Long Island and Queens. And so they end up forming a joint task force. So she's working with the Babylon boys and it's the NYPD, and she's trying to uncover like who the serial killer is. Meanwhile, she has her own missing sister. So she doesn't know if her missing sister's connected to this in any way, but she's also super invested in finding out who's doing this to these girls because she's invested. And so what I love about the story is that it's a New York story that we don't usually see because you know, New York is always in the city. And they don't ever really show Long Island unless it's the Hamptons. And so when people think about just even whatever people's political leanings are or whatever's going on, like that is the microcosm of the world right now in New York. Like we grew up with the suburbs right here and the city right here. And so it's also just about the juxtaposition between the two inner city, suburbs, middle America. You know, it's just like all these dynamics that um that I'm excited about.
SPEAKER_08So Yeah, that's uh and that that sounds interesting and a lot of fun. And and um I promise I didn't mean to dress like I'm auditioning for the Netflix. I look like I'm dressed for Williamsburg Justice right now. I didn't realize. But I think I think that the the the cool part about all everything you're saying and all all the stuff you're working on is that you have again have to have the intellect for the funny and for the writing. You have a mind on something bigger than the thing only is, and that's that's sort of interesting because w when people don't realize the the really good stuff that's out there, they don't even know subconsciously that there's a different sort of subtext to it. So that's cool that you're I mean, you're on top of that. So I mean I hope that I hope that thing gets going. You're just you're just kicking ass. It makes me happy.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, thank you. Fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, no, fingers crossed and and just and just keep at it. And um when like tell me a tell me a little bit about LA right now. And it's I I love going out there. I've been out there a bunch. As a as a Brooklyn guy, as a guy that moved to Jersey when I was 15, 16. I I I look like I, you know, I don't know, I just feel like I get uncomfortable out there almost sometimes. How how are you how are you just sort of adjusting? You said you're loving it so far, right? You're liking it.
SPEAKER_04I love LA. I love the weather, I love the lifestyle. Yeah. And just I'm always outside. My dog loves it. He gets to be outside every single day. Um, I love being immersed in this industry right now. I think the gift of being from New York is that I got all kinds of friends. We d I live all kinds of lives. There's so much going on. But where I am in this season of my life, I want to be singularly focused. And I love being in LA because it is a walking vision board. Like I can look outside my window and see a billboard for a show that my friend is on and wrote on. And so it's that accessible. And um, I'm excited to tap into that. And in terms of like feeling uncomfortable, I mean, I've worked a very long time on not giving a fuck and really believing that I'm one of the coolest people in this room. I'm not the coolest, doesn't matter. But I know that I'm cool. And so I don't care what anybody else has going on.
SPEAKER_08No, that's true. No, I I hear you. And it's just for me, it's more like a like a sensibility thing and a connective tissue. I have a uh a cousin out there, um, and he's a he's a great guy. He's in the business, but whatever. I'm I don't want to get off on a tangent. I uh so t okay, tell us real quick as as we're sort of wrapping up, just a couple more questions. What's sort of what's next, what's next for you? What just are you still still doing everything? What are you working on and what's gonna what are we what what should we look out for, I guess?
SPEAKER_04Boy, literally all those things. Yeah, okay. It feels like this year, and it started off last year, but these are all the projects that have been you mentioned, you alluded to it earlier, just about you like you have to get it out. These are the things that I've been dying to do for like a decade now. Yeah. And so longer. Like my one woman show, I've been trying to do thinking about it since I was a little kid. And so I'm just excited to see where those things go. And um I just like that I've done enough things now where I know what my theme is, what my what my what the connective tissue that even though it sounds like this one woman show and this random sexual assault comedy about male barbers, and then this police procedural, like they all seem so random. But I think the the thing that connects all of my work is the real belief that no matter where we come from, we are all more alike than we are different. And I think that's why you and I relate. Even though and it's not just that, yeah, we're from Brooklyn, so we have that in common too, but from the outside, people probably be like, There's nothing these two have in common. But yeah, we do. And even in my cop show, she's she's from Queens and she's going over to Suffolk thinking that I have nothing in common with these white boys, but her partner, there they they find the common ground. And with Mudhole, even if you didn't go to four different high schools like I did, and even if you didn't go to school in Brooklyn, you know what it's like to be a kid and have adults tell you who you're supposed to be, and you're trying to find your voice. And so there's so many things that are just a part of the collective human experience. And I feel like in this moment that we're in in the world where everybody is like hyper-fixated on how the fuck we're different, I'm just leaning the opposite direction because I don't have the energy to fight or to point fingers or to scream or to worry about who's bad and who's evil. I'm just trying to focus on doing good and being good. I ain't got time. So that's all I'm deciding about me.
SPEAKER_08That's, I mean, I I couldn't have said it better than that. I love that's a great, a great sentiment. I could not agree more. And again, this is why I think that your work, your work is your voice. I think your voice is great, and I it's it's real. And I think that's the only way anybody can connect and enjoy art, writing, comedy, is if they if it just taps into something that's in them. And I think I think what with what you do does that. So what I would say is, I know you're gonna keep it, keep going, keep going, just keep going, keep doing a thing. And fun and enjoyable. I think even I I'm looking forward to seeing this this show Blood and Babylon, because I want to see, I always think that comedy writers and funny people, I think it translates into drama because when there's a when there's a patina of comedy in a drama, there's a little show called The Sopranos. I don't know if anyone's ever heard of that. The show, to me, there's so much comedy in a show like that. So so with what you're doing, I know that you're going to weave those funny tidbits into the dialogue in that horrific situation. They're discovering a body with whatever they're doing. So I say, keep going. This was this was a real pleasure. It was so nice to talk to you and see you again. And I hope we can we can keep in touch. And I don't know who who the hell knows. Maybe you come back on when all these things are or go.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I would love to do this podcast. Thank you for messaging me and reaching out. And this was, I told you like this was my first podcast in a long time. I've just been like in my little hole creating. And so the stuff like this encourages me to like come back out. And I'm happy that you asked me. So thank you.
SPEAKER_08Carrie, one last thing before I send you on your way. I've taken up so much of your time. You've been so gracious. We do a little something on the show called My Old Man Used to Say. Do you have something that that your dad used to say, a piece of wisdom or something helpful, or any any, you know, anything really.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, my dad, all he still currently says it. Um he always says, if you're throwing up shit on the wall, something has to stick. And so I feel like that's a metaphor for my career. And I'm gonna take that. Something has to stick. Stickman!
SPEAKER_08Stickman. Oh my God, I love it. Full circle. I love it. He he's absolutely right. And and I think that you're throwing a lot of great stuff at the wall. And he's a good man. What's his name? What's his first name?
SPEAKER_04Neville.
SPEAKER_08Neville. Neville. And and uh is he is he with us back east? Is he he's back east now still? Or is he?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, he lives, he just moved to Atlanta, so he's Oh, he moved to Atlanta, okay. When you said is he with us? I was like, I don't know. Where's heaven? Is heaven north? I've no idea. Thank God Neville's with the south, but not in hell.
SPEAKER_08He's down south. No, no, no, no, no, no. Neville's uh Neville's a good man.
SPEAKER_04Well, I didn't go that far, but no, I'm just no man.
SPEAKER_08Look, hey, don't for you know, being I'm gonna tell you right now, and I have two little ones. Being a dad is not easy. We're you know, men, we're we're we're the complex, flawed people, so you know, we're we're doing our best. But that is a great piece of advice, and and thank you for being with us today. And throw keep throwing, keep throwing that shit at the wall, please. Okay. All right. All right, all right, thank you so much, Kerry. Nice to talk to you. All right. All right, guys, I thought that was great. Kerry, fantastic. I'm so happy she was able to come on, and I really appreciate that. Pulling for her for all those great projects. I think something's gonna stick. Just like Neville said. Throw that shit at the wall, something's gonna stick. And I know she's throwing good stuff out there into the world. And I really had a good time with her. So, fatherless cheat sheet, every Thursday, new episode, YouTube, Spotify, Apple. Tell your friends, check us out, come find me on Instagram, fatherless cheat cheat podcast at gmail.com. And we'll see you soon next time on the Fatherless Cheat Cheat.
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