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The Advice You Need From a Father
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SPEAKER_01You can't outrun your reputation. That was a that was good. Yeah. Yeah, if you're an asshole. I mean, uh, everybody's gonna know about it. As everybody's watching is going, you're an asshole. Hey, welcome to the fatherless cheat cheat. I am your host, Andrew, your fatherless friend, your Mensch of a mentor-ish, as the kids would say, your mid-mentor. I don't think I have the stones to call myself a mentor of any kind. I think if I've proven anything on the show or extended anything on this show, it's the fact that I still haven't figured it out. I'm a work in progress, and every day is a learning experience, and those challenges keep presenting themselves in different ways. I think there are way too many people that call themselves experts. I'm just a guy sitting in a freezing cold shed sharing stories and a couple of little chuckles with you about my experience, and maybe, just maybe, there's one or two of you out there that can extrapolate and find some solace in that in some way. And that brings me to our topic today, which is advice. My old man used to say, we're going to talk about advice today. Advice is tricky because it comes in all different shapes and sizes. A lot of it is well-intentioned, some of it's not. Some of it's delivered in a very judgmental way. So you run from that advice or that person delivering advice. Some of it is quiet and subtle, some of it is behavior-based, and they don't say anything at all. And I guess the best kind of advice is sound advice, calmly, non-judgmentally delivered, sound advice. I hope that we can sort of go over that a little bit today with some of these little tokens I have, some input I have from some of you, some listeners, some viewers, sent in some mild man used to say. And I hope that we can have fun doing it as always, because boy, if you can't laugh, you're doing something wrong, and you should try to rethink how to do it. I would say that let's dig into this and let's give it a shot. Thanks for joining me on the Fatherless Cheat Cheat. Okay, guys, we're back. I won't take too many cigar puff pauses today, although we could edit those out, I guess. But I want to get started on saying I had a fun, a fun dad's night out last night with Dino and a friend of ours named Lance. He's a great guy. I'm talking about him a little bit. Inevitably, when we go out, uh Dino and I, when we go out alone, we we talk about a little bit of everything. It winds up a lot on the kids' about life and stuff like that. I'm sure when we get older, we'll be like that table of older folks who all they talk about is is afflictions and directions. If you ever put your ear out there as I do, I'm a people watcher, I can't help it. Put your ear out there and listen to a table of older folks together talking, old friends, which is beautiful, lovely. I love when people stay friends and they go out and they're still vital and they're enjoying themselves. But for the most part, you hear a lot of conversation about how they got there that night, just the logistics and their afflictions. What's bothering them, what's ailing them. But honestly, I think Dino and I already kind of do that to some degree. But whatever, we're getting a scooch older, but we'll we'll we'll leave it at that. But anyway, Dino's friend Lance, who they played basketball with, I met him a few years ago, and he's just a hell of a guy. He's a hell of a guy, and he's a great dad. And sort of inevitably, when the three of us get together, we often talk about our kids. He's got a couple kids that are a little bit older. Dino's kids are sort of in the middle, and my kids are the youngest. So it's an interesting thing to talk about because everybody has different experiences at different times and places. And Lance has now done almost all of it because he has a couple kids that are in high school, one on her way to college next year. And she's a very accomplished basketball player. Got out of Lexus. She just had her thousandth point at her high school. And he was telling us all about that story, and he's so prideful. And he's such a great dad and such a great coach to her, and she's a great mom as well. From coaching her from when she was a little girl, he said she started when she was in second grade or something like that. And he was a he's a great basketball player himself. The guy's a brick shithouse. I you don't want anything to do with getting on his bad side, although he's the sweetest guy in the world. His arms are about the size of my head, and he's also quick under the basket, so he's pretty fierce. And boy, is he a competitor as well. We always have fun talking sports, but I got such a kick out of hearing him just glowingly speak about his daughter and her accomplishments. And the one thing that stuck out to me was since she scored her thousandth point, which is a major, major accomplishment in high school basketball, she has a banner now. There's her name is on the banner up in the up in the rafters there. And if she ever loses her confidence or is struggling in a game, he said he just looks at her and then sort of looks up at the banner. Her name is on the banner, like, hey, you did that, so come on, you got this. And I just thought that was such a nice, subtle way to encourage her without saying anything about it. Just sometimes we need that reminder of who we are, of who the who the we are. There's a great line in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when Brad Pitt leans over and says, You're Rick fucking Dalton. Don't you forget it. And we all need that sometimes. So we're talking a little bit about that encouragement, whether it be gentle, whether it be overt, and talk to Lance a little bit and to Dino about what their dads used to say. And unfortunately, this pat this past year, Lance lost his dad in a very, very sad, tragic way. And I was sort of uh with him not far after that, and he was just devastated because he and his dad were so close, and he speaks about him with such reverence, and I'm just, you know, it was sort of enamored by his relationship with his dad and his brother, of course. And I asked Lance, I said, Well, what's something he used to say to you, piece of wisdom? And he said his dad would just always say, in the simplest terms, just do the right thing, do the right thing. And he said he always had that with him, obviously to this day as a great father and great man. He keeps that, he keeps that with him. And it was just a nice, really nice conversation between dads and and going through similar things at different stages. And I always enjoy his company anyway, because we just we shoot the shit and we have a good time, and he's just a good guy. And obviously, Dino is my my BFF. So we we get together, we have a good time. I think I ate way a couple too many long hots on the pizza last night, but and maybe one too many whiskies, but that happens. I mean, I don't have I don't have the restrictor plate built in. So if I go, I go. Uh anyway. So we're gonna get into this a little bit. Personally, speaking of Dino, and he mentioned a couple things about his dad, who I speak about somewhat regularly, who was just such a wonderful man. And I learned from him just by looking at what he did, how he handled himself, how he was around other people with regularity. He would run into my mom at the bagel store many, many years ago. He would just pick up her breakfast, just little things like that. Just mensch kind gestures and just quietly. And and I remember I said something in his best man speech many years ago. I talked about his dad quickly, and I said, when you're good or you're good at something, you don't need to tell anybody. You just do that thing and you do it well. And he just embodied that beautifully because he just sort of was the guy. And and, you know, Dino lost him when we were in college, unfortunately. But Dino is a great model uh of his behavior and and uh a great reflection on him, I should say, as a man, as a father. And so Dino also said that the way he encouraged him was I'm sure he said things and he taught him so much about life, about everything, finances, business. But he would just give him that quiet fist pump and say, you know, you got this again, just needing that encouragement. Sometimes we need those that encouragement to get pushed sort of just over the over and past those breakers to get to that next thing that we're doing. And and it's okay. It's okay to need that. It's not, shouldn't be looked upon in a negative way, if you get my drift.
SPEAKER_00It's it's it's not a failure on your part to need that push.
SPEAKER_01So, and I oh, one of the other things I said in in Dino's best man speech, which I I I read to him via voicemail every single year on his anniversary. I don't think he wants me to do that. I don't think he's got the uh the memory, the Verizon memory for me to do that every year. We gotta up upgrade the uh system there so I can finish the whole speech. I usually get cut off. Anyway, I also said that Dino, who I confide in and talk to, was like a uh a Jiminy cricket on my shoulder. I always think about what he would say and do, even when we were younger, and then in after college and stuff like that, because he was always a good, very, very even keel, very rational. I can be a little bit irrational and impulsive. I'm getting better. I always say that Dino and I are like a delicious black and white cookie. You know, one side tastes one way, the other side tastes that, but together we make a nice, big, delicious cookie, even though we're very opposites. But anyway, enough about that. Uh, I want to talk about, I got a great piece of advice a bunch of years back, and I think I mentioned the TV show Stickman. I created, wrote, created, co-created, co-wrote with my writing partner about the baseball school I worked in. And at the time that we were really getting it on its feet and attaching talent to it as you have to to get anything done, Adam Ray came along. Great Adam Ray, he's all over the place now. And the deal was that for him to come on, and I could tell you how the sausage is made, it doesn't really matter. I don't the show's, I don't think, going anywhere anytime soon. But for him to come on, he was gonna have to take basically the role of me, the lead role, and I was going to have to acquiesce and get the hell out of the way. Now, knowing what I know now, of course, that's a no-brainer. Go sit put put baby in the corner. At the time, it was a really tough pill to swallow because I put so much into it. It was some semblance of my life, obviously caricatured and exaggerated, but it was a really hard decision at the time. At the time, I was working, I was still moonlighting, bartending for someone named Charlie. Charlie Wands, shout out Charlie Wands. He was a bench coach for the Yankees dynasty. So I he's got five rings, five World Series rings. Now, people may think, well, a bench coach, what does he do? He sits on the bench. No, not exactly. But basically, the bench coach on a major league team is like the consigliary, okay, to the players especially, and to the manager and the and the other coaches as well. You just you make sure the waters are calm. And Charlie is, again, so even keel, so calm, extremely thoughtful in his tactics and his strategies. And I was working for Charlie at the time. So it's no, it's no wonder that he was a bench coach on a dynasty of a Yankees team. Now they were a damn good team as well. You can see how his counsel meant so much. And this situation came up where I had to give up this role, and it was really a tough thing for me to do. And I was bartending for him at the time, it's a while back, and I sat, I sat down in his office with him. I remember the conversation. And he's like, What's he's like, what's your what's wrong? What's your problem? Because I was always upbeat, and I wasn't sort of uh mooking around or grumpy, I was just sort of just a little quiet. And when I get quiet, you have to worry. Just ask my wife and everybody else around me. And I told him the situation, and he just said, he just said, Hey, you gotta get out of the way of the train. And at that moment that he shared that, it just clicked in my head, and then off we went, and that conversation was so meaningful to me and resonated so much and sort of cleared a bunch of junk out of my head and said, Yeah, however the hell this thing has to get done, just get it done. And how it got done was Adam Ray came on, he wound up being fantastic in the the pilot. He was great, he was a great guy, we had good chemistry. I wound up playing basically his his best buddy in the show, and I had some great scenes with him and a great experience, and it was much better because he was in it. And if I dug in, we wouldn't even have gotten to the pilot to make the pilot at all. So I th I could thank Charlie for that counsel and for that conversation because again, you do need that. Sometimes you do need people to lean in and just even though it's so obvious and it can be so simple, you just need someone to say, you know, just get out of the way. It'll be fine. It'll work itself out, which is always which is always the case. 90% of the 95% of the time, usually it works itself out, certainly the way it's supposed to. So anyway, that was just a quick one, a quick story. I have a few, as you know.
SPEAKER_00But I want to talk about so some some sort of uh basic ones, basic things that you know fathers would share with their with their children.
SPEAKER_01Take responsibility for your actions, work hard, even when no one's watching. That's what it's important to work hard, right? Treat people with respect, especially those who can't do anything for you. That's a good one. I feel like we live in a society of opportunism. I think everybody's always looking for the reciprocation. So it it's nice when you find someone who just kind of does something because they're a decent human. Doesn't happen too often, but it's nice when it does. Choose your friends carefully, of course. Keep your word, very important. Learn how to handle money. Don't be afraid to fail. That's a big one for all of us. I think everybody's got a little bit of a of that fear. We'll talk about that in a little bit.
SPEAKER_00Stand up for yourself, but don't be a jerk. That's a good one.
SPEAKER_01That's one that I talk about a lot. It took me a while in my life to be able to stand up for myself. And sometimes I would go over the top and overcompensate and and be that jerk in whatever that way was and make those sort of stupid decisions because I couldn't calibrate that thing. I didn't have the wherewithal to regulate those emotions, but as you get older, it it does take get a little bit easier. Take care of your body. I try to do that as I'm sitting here with a a cigar I can't light and a vodka on the rocks. Um be a be a good man before trying to be a successful one. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you don't want to you know step over people and I guess I guess that means how do you do it? Be ke be careful how do you how you do pursue your ambitions. I guess that's sums that one up. So that's just like a general general list of of things, obvious ones. I got a mouse here. I I think I'm so smart with my my Bluetooth mouse. Those are general things. Now I want to thank everybody who did send in old my old man used to say. And we got a lot of good ones here. And the first one I'm gonna go to, just go real quick back to Lance for a second, do the right thing. His dad would say to him all the time before we'd leave the house. And, you know, he he kind of shared, he kind of shared with me that he would face certain challenges living up in our area when he was in high school. And I was very sort of sympathetic to that. And he is it was a unique situation, and um I was I appreciated him sharing that with me. And his dad would just say, Hey, when you go out, do the right thing, you know, be a good man, and he would he would keep that with him. So um you can't outrun your reputation. That was a that was good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, if you're an asshole, I mean uh everybody's gonna know about it. As everybody's watching is going, you're an asshole. Make good choices. That's okay. Yeah, that was in that's that was a line with do the right thing. Make good choices as as best you can. Um this is this one just makes me laugh. It makes me laugh. This was a YouTube, this was a YouTube submission. You ready for this one? You can't argue with crazy and you can't fix stupid. Just cut the cord and move on. You'll be all better for it and you'll lose nothing in the end. Amen. Thank you for sending that in on YouTube. I'm not gonna mention any handles or anything because I I don't know. But uh, that was really funny and so true and so apt. Handle your business before you talk about it. Yeah. I think a lot of people talk about a lot of stuff and don't do much about it. Hey, I'm a shit talker as well sometimes. Again, I've I've tamped that down over the years. I've gotten to a point where I try not to share anything until there's something cooking, really something brewing, or or it's unavoidable because it's out there. I like this podcast. This, I think this is the 20th, 21st episode or something like that. And I was I was psyched that I did three. So, so let's keep keep it rolling. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Yeah, like that Nigerian prince saying he's gonna give you a million bucks, but you need to send him a hundred thousand first, right? Or you're dating Harry Stiles. You're not dating Harry Styles. Stop Venmoing Harry Styles $77 at a time. I know. Loneliness is very difficult, and I'm very empathetic and sympathetic to that, but we have to wise up sometimes. That was a digression. This is good too. You gotta be strong, so when life kicks you in the nuts, you can kick it back in the nuts. That is a direct quote from YouTube. Thank you, YouTube user, for that one. Absolutely, because life will kick you directly in the junk over and over and over again. And then when that pain and vomiting feeling subsides, it will kick you again. So thank you for that one. This was this was a good one. And I don't know why, I guess it's because it's a father to son. We're talking about that part of the body, the anatomy. It just said, How about I share one of the funniest things he said? Whenever something went wrong, he was amused about it. He said, Well, if that don't frost your bag, as I'm as I'm frosting mine in a freezing cold shed right now, as we're approaching a uh snowfall apocalypse. I hope everybody out there gets through this thing. I think by the time this episode's out. Hopefully we're all through it and everyone's okay, especially down south with the ice and the whole thing. But anyway, that was really funny. Doesn't that frost your bag? I'm gonna use that one. This one was really sad. Someone just said he died when I was seven. I'm sure he told me he loved me. I don't remember though. God damn, if that if that doesn't sort of they took the time to write that and I appreciate it. That's just that's just sad. It's just but this stuff happens. Oh, last one. Uh shout out CJ. Used to give him lessons. What an awesome kid. Great family. And I knew his dad. I know his dad. He's still with us, but uh I just haven't seen them in a long time. But anyway, tough times don't last, tough people do. Absolutely. And I know his dad is a great man, his mom is wonderful, and CJ is a good, good kid. Kid. Kid's competing with him for jobs right now, but they grow up fast. Um so those are just some, my old man used to say. Uh we're gonna have more of those. We'll do this again with that, present them and crowdsource them. I just thought those were fun. And we're gonna do, oh, we're gonna do a couple top fives. You know I love my top fives. If you're listening, you know I love my top fives. We're gonna do it. Do it right now. We're gonna go right into it. Top five advice songs. Um more insightful, garners wisdom, but top five advice songs. Okay, now if you haven't, if you're new to the show and you've never listened, these are my lists. They're mine. Uh you you're gonna say it doesn't make any sense. Okay, you're probably right. I have to tell you, my wife says I don't make sense a lot of the time. Because I don't, because my mouth just keeps going. I can't, it doesn't work that quickly that the brain to the mouth to the out. But just bear with me because maybe you'll have a good time with this one. Top five advice songs. Number five, James Brown, get up off of that thing. Well, get up off of that thing and dance till you feel better. Get up off of that thing and try to relieve some pressure. Is there any better advice on the planet right now than that? Things are haywire, crazy, crazy. Get get up, let's go, let's dance a little bit. Isn't that a good message? I love that. I love that song. I love James Brown. I love James Brown. I know he had character issues and stuff like that. He wasn't perfect, but but goddamn, was he an entertainer and entertaining and just he's a wild dude and came from nothing. He came from absolutely nothing, had only talent on his side, and my God. Okay. Um number four, The Waiting by Tom Petty. Little context to this one: The Waiting is an incredible song. I love Tom Petty. And uh I'm not I'm not gonna get into how I knew the guy and how that happened, but there was a guy I knew, and his name was John Shea, passed away of pancreatic cancer. And I was speaking to him, and he said, he he said to me, as like a few weeks before he died, he said, You know that song The Waiting by Tom Petty? I said, Of course I know the song. And he said, I that's I always think about that song when uh I'm waiting for test results. We all get impatient. I can be very impatient. I when I'm being impatient, I try to think about that. Try to think about John waiting for his test results uh about this very pretty final um thing that's gonna happen to him. Final diagnosis, it was it was not good.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, I just think that song is very enlightening and I don't know, revelatory, if you will.
SPEAKER_01Number three, this one's a little lighter, thank God. The gambler, Kenny Rogers. Because you know what? You have to know when to hold him and know when to fold him. The video's great, the song's great. The guy's sitting on a train with a he's sharing the whiskey, paint such a picture, and then the guy was so wise. Study and play.
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SPEAKER_01Because the guy, from what you think about and what you hear in the song, the guy lived a hundred lives, that guy. Like a cat. You know, he's whatever. They have nine. But I love that song. Isn't that a great one? The Gambler. Number two, it could have very easily been number one. Uh it's called The Nights by Avici. And I don't know if you've ever seen the Avici documentary. It's very good, it's very sad. He's a talented kid, and he and he he died, committed suicide. But it's a really interesting documentary. But this song, it's called The Nights, and it's about basically what his what his father would say to him about really enjoy your youth because someday, someday you're going to long for it, and I'm basically I'll be here for you whenever. If you're if you're having those wild nights and you need me, you call me. Go listen to the song. It's really great and sort of surprising of a house music banger that it could sort of be so poignant and emotional. But I really love that one. And so usually I usually have to put the Ray Bans on when that one's on. Or number one, of course. There he is. Number one, that's life. Mr. Frank Sinatra. Is there a is there a better song to encapsulate this rock, we're spinning on this rock and things are good and bad, and up and down and left and right. And you, you know, you're sh you're shot down in April and you're flying high in May, or the opposite. I love that song. I think it's so good and it's so light. And if you can't, when you're getting your teeth kicked in, if you can't kind of go, Jesus Christ, all right. And that kind of he does it in that song, and nobody does it better than than Mr. Sinatra. And uh anyway, so that's that. So I just I found that list fun. So those check all the songs out. I'm sure you've heard them all. I'm gonna go one more top five list because I have you.
SPEAKER_00And we're gonna go top five uh sort of movie scenes of advice or encouragement. But we're gonna go number five is one of my favorite movies of all time.
SPEAKER_01You're so money. You're so money, you don't even know it. You're like this big bear, Mikey. You're like this big bear with these big fucking teeth. Swingers. Trent is there and they're trying to encourage their heartbroken friend to go approach the girl at the bar. First of all, like Mikey, get over it. Just go talk to her. It's fine. It's not that big a deal. Does that even happen anymore at bars? Do guys go up to girls or whatever? I don't know. Or do they just text, do they airdrop stuff? I have no idea, no knowledge of this. But it's such a great scene, and it's so funny because Swingers is a movie. Vince Vaughn is is so dubious in it. But he actually cares about Mikey, and I think it's I think it's just one of those things, one of those funny scenes that I thought of. Number four, uh in Forrest Gump, pretty much everything Mama Gump ever said to Forrest, I think he was she was dropping knowledge on him constantly, and I think he he ate it up and he would share it with the world, which was so sweet and so wonderful. And who doesn't who doesn't leave that movie on? That's for me, it's a leave-on movie when I catch it, Forrest Gump. Mama Gump. May she rest in peace. Sally Field is still alive. I'm talking about the movie. Uh, number three, Brogstail. This one's interesting. The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. Amen. Amen. Because that fear barrier gets in our way. And we'll talk about that in a minute. But it was interesting in the movie because C, Cologne, had his father, who was a great man, hardworking guy, would give him advice. But he would also go to Sonny and get advice from him, who was a wayward guy, who was a gangster, who chose that bad path, and he's talking about the saddest thing in life is wasted talent. And he gave him great advice. And I love one of the other things in the movie goes, because the kid was all torn up about Mickey Mannle or the Yankees or something, and he said, You think Mickey Mannle cares about you? And I just thought that was great. At the time, it was, you know, watching the movie, my Mike Piazza was breaking my heart because he only got one hit. And so I thought to myself, ah, he's right. I don't think Mikey P cares about me. But anyway, anyway, love Mikey P. Shout out, Mikey P. Number two, Don Vito Corleone, the godfather. A man, a man, uh, a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.
SPEAKER_00I would say yes. Sh yeah, I would agree.
SPEAKER_01He also says, friendship is everything. Friendship is more than talent, it is more than government. And I think from what I can derive from that, I think what he meant was relationships. We talk about that a lot on the show. Relationships, they outlast money, skill, institutions, of course. And I think that's what makes things makes things go around.
SPEAKER_00Number one. Number one. Rocky Balboa to his son in Rocky Balboa.
SPEAKER_01It's uh it was a great scene, actually. What his son Milo Ventamiglia played his son in that scene.
SPEAKER_00And it says, uh, how how hard can you get hit and keep moving forward?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's because that's life. You're just gonna keep getting like like frost in your bag, kicked in the nuts. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen a lot, but you gotta get up and you gotta move forward as hard as it is, as much as you don't want to. Also, uh honorable mention uh at number one. Anything Mickey ever said to Rocky, and there was a a great scene and speech with Mickey and Rocky, and Mickey's giving him the the glove, the the um the cufflink that he puts around his neck. And basically Mickey's speech, he's telling Rocky, he's like, You gave me purpose, you gave me purpose to live, to stick around longer. And Rocky says something like, Nature is smarter than we think, which is another great line. I think he's underrated as a writer. Sly. But what it was interesting in that is like he says to him, um, not only not only will you be able to fight, but you'll be able to take care of yourself outside of the ring, which really is a metaphor for fatherhood and what I want to do and provide for my daughters. And I think a lot of this show is that. I think that they'll be able to watch this someday.
SPEAKER_00So anyway. Uh, I'm just gonna leave you with a couple quick things. A couple of my favorite quotes. My favorite things I've gone to over the years, uh, just quickly, uh good men aren't weak.
SPEAKER_01They're dangerous people who say no to themselves. And boy, when you know what you're capable of and don't do it, I think I think that's that's a good thing. So I I certainly can identify with that. This is a big one for me. I love this one. Comparisons are the thief of joy. I know that's sort of ubiquitous, but I I love that quote and it's it's the truth. I don't keep up with Joneses, I don't care about the Joneses. They're doing what they want to do, I don't care. I root for the Joneses. They don't care about me.
SPEAKER_00I root for them, but we don't need to meet. Uh also last one, when people tell you who they are, believe them. And that's that's a great one. And I will leave you with this talking about fear and talking about what you want to do.
SPEAKER_01I'm really talking to myself as well, as I've said this before. If you're out there, one or two people listening, and you want to do something, and you just can't pull the trigger for sort of ambiguous reasons having nothing to do with practicality, just do it. Do the thing, don't put it off, don't put it off anymore. I'm serious, just do it and dive in and put your chin out there for the world to punch you right in the face because this thing just doesn't last long. And I implore you to do that and follow your your heart and and do the whole thing and do it with gusto and passion and get knocked down because who cares? And don't be embarrassed and don't worry about it what anybody else thinks, because honestly, as I've said a hundred times, nobody's looking. Nobody's looking. And if they're they're rooting against you, let them, let them root and stack the chips up on your shoulders like that. But that was a little advice, a little my old man used to say, and I had a great time doing it. I hope you enjoyed it. Hope you had a couple laughs as always. Please tell everybody to like, to subscribe to the show. Let's build this little community we have of uh fatherless and uh whatever. You don't have to be fatherless. You can just enjoy what we talk about because we're gonna have some great guests coming down the pike. Follow us on Instagram, follow us on YouTube, and reach out. Say hello, fatherless cheat cheat podcast at gmail.com. And I will I will get back to you if you reach out. I'll get back. We'll talk. We'll say hey. So I hope you enjoyed it. Fatherless Cheat Cheat. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for hanging out. Enjoy it. All right, see you soon.
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