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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, today we're going to answer a question that is so, so talked about, so much asked by many, many people.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, all of us.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And uh we're gonna be looking today at a multi uh at multiple scriptures, so there's not just one to turn to.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But I want to start out by saying what I'm about to preach on today, and by the way, we got a lot of people already have been texting me yesterday.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I was a little late on my word for the week because I was doing some work, and uh, but uh they already excited, they've already been texting me saying, I can't wait to hear this message.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I've been I I lost a child, uh, I had a miscarriage.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Uh I've even had people ask me that that have had abortions, what happens to my child?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So I am going to do my best to answer those questions, but let me go on record saying uh a lot of these answers are just as much as intuitiveness from personal experience and questions that I and Susan answered, because basically we have five children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You say five children?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I've got a son and two daughters here, but I also have two children in heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We have a stillborn, what was five months, twenty-one weeks, that was born, and I had the privilege of holding that little boy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It looked just like me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Big nose, everything.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It was scary, it really was.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And the joy of me being able to even say that in a joyful way is I'm gonna get to be with my little boy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I'm gonna see my little boy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So what I'm preaching and teaching today is not just from the scriptures that God's given to me and Susan over the years, but it's a through a lot of counseling with people that are uh stillborns uh like ours, but also uh I dealt with a uh little, what do they call it, crib death.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I can remember dealing with one of those.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Uh and a lot of counseling sessions with with people that had had, sadly to say, abortions.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then they've gotten saved and saying, oh my God, what's what what about my baby?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So, with all that said, I'm gonna give you the best answers I can give you that God gave me peace about.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But let me go on record saying I cannot say that these are verbatim what God says, the word I can, and in the reference to what I believe.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But God, I know, is a just God, and whatever he's done in the way he has done it, to God be the glory, and it's great.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So, with that said, there is nothing more agonizing than the death of a child.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Someone has said that the death of a child is like putting a period before the sentence is ever finished.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I thought about that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That really is true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If the loss of a child is not enough within itself to break your heart and it's grievous, I mean, to a point you can't hardly stand it, then comes the question of the child's eternal destiny.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So what happens to this child?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, in this message this morning, I want us, if you got your outline, does everyone have an outline?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Everyone have one?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because this is gonna be very important.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's gonna help you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're gonna keep this so you can share it with other friends that you know that have lost children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It'll be a blessing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I promise you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I promise you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But we're gonna look at four reasons for believing that all infants and small children, when they die, go straight to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Straight to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Reason number one, the character of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Put it down in number one.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The character of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The first reason we know that we can have peace is because of the character of God when our child dies is because he says, are you ready for this in Romans 8:15?

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<v SPEAKER_01>He says that he's our father.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He says that he's our Abba Father.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that word Abba means daddy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So that is an initial clue as to how he regards the helpless and innocent among us.

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<v SPEAKER_01>No doubt about it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The Bible tells us in listen to Psalms 86, verse 15, that God is compassionate, he's gracious, he's long-suffering and abundant in mercy and truth.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Why?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then listen to what he says also in Psalms 149, verse 9.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He is also good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's including the creation of his children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So these traits alone, these traits alone of God tell us how he would never judge anyone unjustly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Never, never.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Such as children who don't have the ability to understand the gospel, he is not gonna judge them unjustly or anyone else.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now, such as some people say that that judgment is the same with people who have not heard the gospel, but I got to clarify that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's not true.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And here's why.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because in Romans chapter 1, listen to what it says, verse 20, his invisible attributes are clearly seen.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now watch, here's the two words.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power, hey, and Godhead, so that they are, that means adults with understanding, hey, are without excuse.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're without excuse.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And also the whole chapter, you may want to write it down, chapter 19 in Psalms tells us that the evidence of God in nature surrounds us and holds all men accountable.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But babies are different, they cannot understand language, reason, or hey, even the evidence in nature.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They can't understand that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Interestingly, when the people of Israel, what man, I found this.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I said, oh, this is good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hey, when the people of Israel were held accountable for not trusting God, remember for when they were supposed to enter into the promised land and they didn't?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, in Deuteronomy chapter 1, verse 39, it's interesting because we we see when Israel was held accountable for not trusting God to give them victory into the promised land.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Listen what it says.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Their children were not held accountable.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The adults were, but not the children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Listen, moreover, you, he says, moreover, your little ones, that's a key word, and we'll look at that more in this message.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He says, your little ones and your children who today have no knowledge of good and evil, that's important, they shall go in there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>To them I will give the promised land, and they shall possess it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The adults were penitalized for their unbelief.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But the children were not.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now let me give you another example.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Another example is in Jonah chapter 4.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I love to preach that Jonah.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What happens when you get on the wrong boat?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, you get to have a free ride on free willy.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But that's a message for another time.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That used to be one of my favorite messages to the teenager youth camps.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But in Nineveh, God's, hey, as wicked as Nineveh was, and God was bringing the prophet and the preacher to come and bring revival to the country.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And you remember Jonah, he didn't want to do it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, he didn't want, he he he actually just said, God, well, I don't want to go preach to him.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Why don't you just kill him?

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<v SPEAKER_01>But you know why he didn't?

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<v SPEAKER_01>You know why he didn't bring harsh judgment?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because there was 120,000 people in Nineveh that did not understand from right to wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's what verse 11 says.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I think that means children, or people that could not understand.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Listen to what he says.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is powerful.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He, in fact, he says, who could not discern?

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<v SPEAKER_01>He said there was a large number of people, 120,000, I think children, that could not discern between the right hand and the left.

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<v SPEAKER_01>God's justice accounts for those not able to believe.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He wasn't gonna bring judgment because he knew there was 120,000 people there that needed to come to the accountability of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Man, that's good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now, with that said, in Ezekiel, listen to this.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I tell you we're gonna do a lot of scriptures.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Ezekiel 16, 20, God refers to children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now, watch this, as his.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And in Jeremiah 2, 34 and Jeremiah 19, 4, listen to this, he refers to them as innocence.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, children are born into sin just like everyone else.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now let me get this straight.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Behold, I'm formed in iniquity, David said, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We're all born with a sin nature.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You understand that?

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<v SPEAKER_01>But what we've got to realize, and I really believe this, children are born into sin just like everyone else, but their sins are not willful and premeditated.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Thus, he calls them innocents until they get to the age where they understand right from wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You with me?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's important, folks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That right and wrong as we go through this message.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Just hang with those words.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So God is compassionate and merciful and does not judge children who lack the ability themselves to judge.

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<v SPEAKER_01>To judge themselves.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Does that make sense?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Are you with me?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Come on.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So, number one, why I believe children, when they die, go straight to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If they've not reached the age of accountability, and we're gonna deal with that, it's because of the character of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Say that with me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The character of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>God loves children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Number two, the conditions for salvation.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, this is this is good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Small children don't have the ability to understand that an affirmative response to the gospel is necessary.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, they've got to understand the gospel.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, I said a prayer, or I I got baptized.

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<v SPEAKER_01>No, they've got to understand what it means to be saved.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now, you don't have to be 20 to understand that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You don't even have to be 12 to understand that, but we're going to get there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I don't want to get ahead of myself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But what they have to understand is what Paul told the Philippian jailer.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what did Paul tell the Philippian jailer in Acts 16?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Remember what he said?

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<v SPEAKER_01>First of all, the doors, the angels had busted the doors open, and the jailer thought, oh my goodness, all the prisoners are gone.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So he drew his sword to kill himself because he knew that he would be beheaded by his commander for allowing the prisoners to escape.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So he drew his sword to commit suicide, and all of a sudden Paul, hey, and Silas were in the same cell, but Paul hollowed out, don't kill yourself, we're here.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Nobody's gone.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what did he do?

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<v SPEAKER_01>He ran to the cells and saw them all there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And what did he say?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because it's undoubtedly this is a great picture of Paul had been, and Silas had been witnessing to him.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because immediately when he saw that, you know what he did?

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<v SPEAKER_01>He said, Paul, what must I do to be saved?

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<v unknown>Wow.

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<v unknown>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Glory to God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then Paul said, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy household.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hey dads, you get saved, your whole house will follow you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're the leader.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So, in Galatians 5, 19 and 21, now this is important.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because when people make childhood decisions without understanding, and then they grow older, and if they live like I'm about to read in these things, then ladies and gentlemen, they just made a decision.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They didn't make a change.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Okay?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And here's what it says in Galatians 5 19.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Powerful.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and here's what they are: adultery.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's living.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hey, out of a relationship of marriage, fornication, that's having sex before marriage, uncleanness, lascivociousness, that's a big word that just means covetousness and all kind of stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Just it's it's loaded with a lot of junk.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Let me put it that way.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, arguments, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, fighting, and such like of the which I tell you before, as I've also told you in time past, they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Folks, you cannot say you're saved and live like the devil.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And the problem in America today is, according to all Barner statistics and all church history, folks and researchers, is the problem with the witness of the church today is that we have a whole lot of people and churches saying that they're saved and they're standing for the Lord, but they're living no differently than the world and the things and the characteristics that I just read to you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In Revelation, chapter 21, verse 8 has a similar but shorter list.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The point is that you cannot go to heaven if you choose to live this way.

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<v SPEAKER_01>You cannot go to heaven in your sin.

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<v SPEAKER_01>As Ezekiel 18, 20 says, listen, the soul who sins shall die, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Wow, that's pretty plain, folks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The problem is children don't understand this.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Until the children get to the point they understand that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They're under the grace of God, the mercy of God, the justice of God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Listen to what John MacArthur said.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Little children have no record of unbelief or evil works, and therefore there is no basis for their deserving an eternity apart from God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, that's good, isn't it?

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<v SPEAKER_01>They are graciously and sovereignly saved by God as part of the anointing work of Jesus Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Before a child knows how to choose between good and evil, he or she is protected from judgment for sin by the blood of the Lamb of the living God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If one cannot reasonably accept or reject the payment for sin made by Christ, that person is accepted by God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In the Bible, listen to this: infants, little children, and others who cannot believe or neither told to believe are not expected to do so.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Since the condition for salvation is accepting the gospel, the inability to do so speaks, hey, one, the judgment for not having done so, no one they can be under judgment for they don't understand.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Doesn't that make sense?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Which brings me to the third point.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The condition of salvation basically is this that a child understands, let me put it as simply as I can, that a child understands right from wrong, and they want to do right, not wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now they're getting ready for salvation.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Because they're gonna need help to do right instead of wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And it's called the Holy Spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Isn't that good?

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<v SPEAKER_01>But that is the easiest way to explain it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>When a child gets to the point where he's ready, and that's what the scriptures we've been reading, when they know the difference between right and wrong, that's one thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>By the way, when you're living in sin, you know what I've learned over 40, almost 45 years?

00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I've been in ministry a long time, honey.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Do you know what I've learned?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Even people, hey, hey, that aren't saved, living in sin, all those things I just read to you, you know, they know it's wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But they choose to keep doing it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So when a child gets to the point where he knows the difference between right and wrong, that's one thing.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But when he's ready for salvation, it's that the child is ready and wants to do right and not wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Woo! That's good, preacher.

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<v SPEAKER_01>God just gave me that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That wasn't in my notes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But it makes simple because I've dealt with children for 40 plus years, leading them the Lord, making sure.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's why, parents, let me help you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Don't be in a hurry to try to get your kids saved.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Let the Lord do the Holy Spirit through the Holy Spirit do the work.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But I'm gonna tell you how you to do it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, you've got to be a discerning parent.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Man, this is good stuff, folks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So, the character of God is one reason we know.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Number one, the child goes straight to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Two, the conditions for salvation.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We know the child goes right to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then number three, the compassion of the Savior.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Well, this is good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is really good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And uh Jesus' love, Jesus' love for the little children, it seems on more than just one occasion in the gospels.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Indeed, the references to Jesus' interaction with children are also included.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Are you ready for this?

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<v SPEAKER_01>The adjective little.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now that word is.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Pideon.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Pideon, the Greek word.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And you know what it means?

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<v SPEAKER_01>It means infants and little children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's talking about those children that have not reached the age of accountability.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So that's exciting to me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And in fact, do you remember in Matthew?

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is a good one.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Matthew 18.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, it's in all the gospels.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Luke, it's also in, I'm sorry, Matthew 19, but Luke 18, and then it's in Mark 10.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But listen to what it says right here in Matthew 19, 13 through 14.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Then were they brought unto him little children.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The Greek wordion.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Uh-oh.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In other words, the disciples did not, well, I don't whether they thought that Jesus wouldn't want to be bothered.

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:11.200
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't think that at all.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I don't think they thought that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But they thought, because they didn't want to be bothered with the little children, that Jesus didn't need to be bothered.

00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.480
<v SPEAKER_01>So they rebuked the parents and then notice what Jesus said.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I tell you something?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Before you start rebuking somebody for Jesus, you might but ask Jesus is okay.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Hello, you okay out there?

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<v SPEAKER_01>You don't need to speak for Jesus.

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:37.119
<v SPEAKER_01>He does it quite well himself.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an Amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>So listen to what he says.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But Jesus said, suffer the little children and forbid them not to come unto me, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

00:23:52.799 --> 00:24:02.000
<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, he goes on to say, if you as an adult can't come with the simple like faith of a child, you can't be saved.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's pretty powerful, folks.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's pretty powerful.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But perhaps the most meaningful reference, are you ready for this?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Is Matthew 18, 14, where Jesus says, listen, even so it is not the will of your father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.240
<v SPEAKER_01>Woo! That settles it.

00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:35.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And settled it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Little ones, the infants, the children that don't know the difference between right and wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They're not gonna perish.

00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Not one of them.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's what Jesus said right there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, it couldn't be more plain or clear from that verse that Jesus is not willing for little ones.

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<v SPEAKER_01>By the way, and when you look at the word little ones, it comes also in that passage of scripture.

00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:13.200
<v SPEAKER_01>It's mecross, micros from which we get our word micro.

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<v SPEAKER_01>In other words, not any of the smallest little children are gonna die and go to hell.

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<v SPEAKER_01>They're all gonna be in heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And that's good.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Now, I know what you're thinking.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Same questions I was thinking with my children.

00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.599
<v SPEAKER_01>When Susan had her miscarriage and the stillborn.

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<v SPEAKER_01>What about children lost through a miscarriage or abortions?

00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:47.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Good question.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Let me tell you what I believe.

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<v SPEAKER_01>If we just believe what we looked at.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I believe that those children of ours, the two that are in heaven, one's a little boy, the other one we do not know.

00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:05.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And I really believe this.

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:13.839
<v SPEAKER_01>I believe that this child of or those children of ours we've never met have been in heaven for decades.

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:21.759
<v SPEAKER_01>And that we'll be united with my little boy and whether the other one was a him or her when we get there.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I really believe that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I believe the Bible right here is clear that life, now listen, and personhood begins at conception.

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.759
<v SPEAKER_01>We believe that.

00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:45.039
<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, if you believe the Bible, you've got to believe that because God says he knows us and he already knew you and who you were in your mother's womb.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So once that conception's taken place, we've got a life.

00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.720
<v SPEAKER_01>We got a little one.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I'm telling you right now, God is gonna bring judgment on America if we don't change this abortion.

00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:13.920
<v SPEAKER_01>It's gonna happen.

00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.039
<v SPEAKER_01>And now we're getting to the point where it's barbaric.

00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:27.039
<v SPEAKER_01>When you can have a baby to be born and then be allowed to put that baby to death, folks, that's murder.

00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:34.720
<v SPEAKER_01>And I know right now, probably if I say this again in six uh year, they'll come try to lock me up.

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, to let them lock me up.

00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.200
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm gonna preach the truth, and I'll be just like Paul and Silas.

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I'll be preaching it in jail.

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<v SPEAKER_01>I'm not gonna change.

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:50.160
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm not, I'm hey, hey, when I was young, I was too young to know better.

00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Now I'm too old to change.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Amen.

00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.440
<v SPEAKER_01>People used to say, well, he's just that way right now.

00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.039
<v SPEAKER_01>He's young, but he'll grow out of it.

00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I haven't grown out of it.

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:10.960
<v SPEAKER_01>In fact, I've gotten worse.

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.200
<v SPEAKER_01>Now I'm so bullheaded, you're not gonna change me if you wanted to.

00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.720
<v SPEAKER_01>Because I know the truth, and the truth should set you free.

00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.359
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm sticking with the book, I'm going with the book.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Therefore, I really believe.

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<v SPEAKER_01>All women, are you ready?

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:45.279
<v SPEAKER_01>Who have suffered either of these experiences, miscarriage, abortions, should expect to be reunited with their precious ones in heaven.

00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, if they are saved.

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.039
<v SPEAKER_01>So now listen to me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Get excited.

00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:58.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Here's a you say, well, Pastor, what do you are Pastor?

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:05.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Are you saying that I had an abortion or I had a miscarriage and they're in heaven?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:17.759
<v SPEAKER_01>And are you telling me, you know, if I'm saved, I'm gonna get to be with my children in heaven?

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.240
<v SPEAKER_01>That's exactly what I'm saying.

00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:21.519
<v unknown>Amen.

00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.759
<v SPEAKER_01>That's why you need to get saved if you're lost.

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.799
<v SPEAKER_01>And get rid of the guilt you've had ever since you've had that abortion or the miscarriage.

00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Get rid of the guilt.

00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:41.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Satan's, hey, he's killing you with that guilt, and he ultimately wants to take you to hell.

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Get rid of it.

00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:48.960
<v SPEAKER_00>You mean he'll forgive me?

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:49.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes.

00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.839
<v SPEAKER_00>I promise you.

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.000
<v SPEAKER_00>He'll forgive you.

00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:55.680
<v SPEAKER_00>I promise you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>By the way, let me answer another question for you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The same is true for children who, due to mental impairment, never develop fully to the point that they could understand and receive the gospel.

00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:19.359
<v SPEAKER_01>They're safe too.

00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:20.640
<v SPEAKER_01>Can I get an amen?

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<v SPEAKER_01>They're going to heaven too, folks.

00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Why, because he's a just, compassionate, loving God.

00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:33.680
<v SPEAKER_00>That's good.

00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:35.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Take that, Satan.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Number three.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Number four.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Mm-mm.

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<v SPEAKER_01>The child of David.

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:59.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Not only the character of God, the condition for salvation, number two, three, the compassion of the Savior, but number four, the child of David.

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.440
<v SPEAKER_01>In 2 Samuel 12, you got to read the story.

00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:13.920
<v SPEAKER_01>We find the story of the child of King David that provides unbelieving, compelling evidence for the salvation of children.

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.599
<v SPEAKER_01>You remember David's story?

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:34.079
<v SPEAKER_01>He committed adultery with Bathsheba, became pregnant with David's child, and after the child was born, God sent the prophet Nathan to confront David over his sin of adultery and of having Bathsheba's husband, if you remember Uriah killed.

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:40.559
<v SPEAKER_01>He tried to cover his own sin up with Bathsheba's husband, brought him home.

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.680
<v SPEAKER_01>He was one of the best captains in the army David had, and a great soldier, dedicated.

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:58.480
<v SPEAKER_01>And he he tried to get Uriah drunk, and then he said, Hey, you've been one of my faithful soldiers, so why don't you go on home and be with your wife tonight?

00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.759
<v SPEAKER_01>What character Uriah had.

00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.279
<v SPEAKER_01>He said, How can I go home to be with my wife when my men are dying?

00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.319
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, he didn't cover it up.

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:18.160
<v SPEAKER_01>God, hey, you hey, you can be sure your sins will find you out.

00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.200
<v SPEAKER_01>Hello?

00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:20.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Hello.

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I've never gotten away with one.

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I've tried.

00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.160
<v SPEAKER_01>My children never got away with one.

00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:34.079
<v SPEAKER_01>They probably they finally said, Daddy, please quit praying that God reveals every sin.

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.079
<v SPEAKER_01>You can run, but you can't hide.

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:45.759
<v SPEAKER_01>He's gonna get you.

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.720
<v SPEAKER_01>You know why?

00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.079
<v SPEAKER_01>He loves you.

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.440
<v SPEAKER_01>He chases the ones that he loves.

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:52.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Amen.

00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Hebrews 11.

00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:54.160
<v SPEAKER_01>Now watch this.

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<v SPEAKER_01>This is good.

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.359
<v SPEAKER_01>So anyway, he's confronted.

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<v SPEAKER_01>So what does he do?

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:08.240
<v SPEAKER_01>Bathsheba has the little baby, his boy, and he begins to fast.

00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:10.480
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, excuse me.

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.240
<v SPEAKER_01>He's fasting and praying before she has the baby.

00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.000
<v SPEAKER_01>And I know what he's praying.

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.119
<v SPEAKER_01>He's praying that probably that the baby will not die.

00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.799
<v SPEAKER_01>He's asking for forgiveness for the sin that he's done, I'm sure.

00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.200
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, that's what I would have done.

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I know he would have I know he was doing that.

00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And here's how I know he's doing that.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He's praying, fasting for a week.

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<v SPEAKER_01>All of a sudden the baby's born, born dead.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Then all of a sudden, what does he do?

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<v SPEAKER_01>David gets up, he goes and washes himself, he cleans up, and then he goes and eats.

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And the servants are saying, What?

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.759
<v SPEAKER_01>Now I'm sure they didn't confront the king.

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:53.359
<v SPEAKER_01>But they're saying, What?

00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:54.880
<v SPEAKER_01>What are you doing, king?

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Why aren't you still praying and fasting?

00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.279
<v SPEAKER_01>You just lost a baby.

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Now here's the answer.

00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And maybe they did confront him.

00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:05.119
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't know.

00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:11.599
<v SPEAKER_01>But let me give you the answer that he says, which is unbelievable.

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:18.719
<v SPEAKER_01>David's reply was in verse 23 in 2 Samuel 12, here's what he said.

00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Now he is dead, his son.

00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Why should I fast anymore?

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Can I bring him back again?

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:28.719
<v SPEAKER_01>No.

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.599
<v SPEAKER_01>But then notice what he says.

00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.719
<v SPEAKER_01>One of the strongest evidence, probably the most powerful evidence about children going to heaven.

00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:42.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:48.480
<v SPEAKER_01>In other words, David was confident that he would see his child again.

00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:57.039
<v SPEAKER_01>David believed he was going to heaven when he died, and that that was where he expected to see his son.

00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:08.400
<v SPEAKER_01>David still believed that he and his son would be reunited in the place of God's blessing where all believers are called heaven.

00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.440
<v SPEAKER_01>That's not good, folks.

00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.280
<v SPEAKER_01>David understood then what we know to be true.

00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Small children and infants go to be with the Lord when they die.

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:34.079
<v SPEAKER_01>So there are legitimate questions to be raised.

00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.320
<v SPEAKER_01>I hope I've answered several.

00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:49.119
<v SPEAKER_01>And the two most asked, I will give you insight from what I believe, from scriptures I've studied.

00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:54.480
<v SPEAKER_01>But let me say right up front, I can't say that I'm right.

00:35:56.079 --> 00:36:04.159
<v SPEAKER_01>But I can give you a thought of what I believe from what I've studied over the years, and from my mentor, Woodrow Crow.

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:06.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Dr.

00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:12.800
<v SPEAKER_01>Woodrow Crow, who was back, you know, was on Back to the Bible Hour for over 20 years.

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.559
<v SPEAKER_01>He was my mentor at Liberty.

00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:15.840
<v SPEAKER_01>He was my professor.

00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:24.159
<v SPEAKER_01>And he wrote the book, uh, Is My Child in Heaven by uh Lincoln, published by Lincoln.

00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.840
<v SPEAKER_01>During the years he was, he wrote several booklets while he was at Back to the Bible Hour.

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:36.400
<v SPEAKER_01>So let's let me just kind of give you some insight from the studies that I've done.

00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.719
<v SPEAKER_01>What about the age of accountability?

00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.079
<v SPEAKER_01>First question.

00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:50.239
<v SPEAKER_01>People are always looking for a specific age by which to define the age of accountability.

00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:57.280
<v SPEAKER_01>But the age at which a child becomes accountable for the message of the gospel is as different as the children are themselves.

00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.639
<v unknown>Amen.

00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:08.880
<v SPEAKER_01>No two children develop at the same rate or in the same way.

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:09.840
<v SPEAKER_01>They just don't.

00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.599
<v SPEAKER_01>I've got, I've watched three of my children get saved, and they all were different.

00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:14.800
<v SPEAKER_01>Every one of them.

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Every one of them were different.

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:33.840
<v SPEAKER_01>So, children are sinners from the moment of their conception, but they are covered by the blood of Christ that takes away the sins of the world, John 1.29, until they can understand their sin, which results in guilt before God.

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:35.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay?

00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:37.280
<v SPEAKER_01>You got that?

00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:38.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Say amen, preacher.

00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, let me show you what I found.

00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:42.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Here's a nugget.

00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Isaiah 7.16 makes reference to a child.

00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Actually, you know who it was?

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.519
<v SPEAKER_01>It was the coming Messiah.

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:56.880
<v SPEAKER_01>And his ability to refuse the evil and choose the good.

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:07.119
<v SPEAKER_01>There is a time when a child chooses, hey, excuse me, a child crosses that line, but the Bible does not give an age at which that happens.

00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.679
<v SPEAKER_01>But again, did I see how we were going through this whole message with that?

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:28.079
<v SPEAKER_01>A child, when it gets to the age of accountability, knows what's right and what's wrong, and now when they get saved, they choose because they want to do right and not wrong.

00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Does that make sense?

00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.679
<v SPEAKER_01>That's as simple as you can get it.

00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.840
<v SPEAKER_01>But at the age they do that, I can't tell you.

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:49.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, I can tell you what a lot of people, several, a lot of theologians and other good conservative people that have done a lot of studies say.

00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Most people land on the age of 12.

00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:56.880
<v SPEAKER_01>There's a reason for that.

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Not just they picked 12.

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:09.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Because it was at the age of 12 that Jesus was in the temple debating the theologians.

00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:18.079
<v SPEAKER_01>I still, when I get to heaven, when I ask Joseph and Mary how they didn't realize Jesus was gone until three days after.

00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:19.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.159
<v SPEAKER_01>See, those are the kind of questions I gotta ask.

00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I got some good ones.

00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:30.639
<v SPEAKER_01>Would you you'd have taken three ladies, mamas, I'm looking together.

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Would it have taken you three days to miss your child?

00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:39.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Now Rick might have, well, well, I'm having to put some peace here, yeah, and me too, but uh no.

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:41.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Can you imagine that?

00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:46.239
<v SPEAKER_01>But anyway, so they, you know, hey, he's he's now to the age that he can debate.

00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.559
<v SPEAKER_01>All right, here's another reason.

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:53.920
<v SPEAKER_01>The Jewish community hang their hat a lot on age 12.

00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.480
<v SPEAKER_01>It's because of barbitzvah.

00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:13.440
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's when a child, a young man, gets to the age of 12 and he's memorized the whole five books of the law, the Torah, and he can quote it, exergete it, and debate it at age 12.

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:18.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Now he's ready for the barbitzsa.

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:27.119
<v SPEAKER_01>In other words, they're putting his hands on him as what they would say a young Christian, a young man.

00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:35.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, it doesn't mean it has to be 12, but it cannot be any younger than 12 for the Barbitza.

00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Does that make sense?

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.280
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's where the age 12 comes.

00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:46.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, we had a missionary, uh, her name was uh Bertha Smith.

00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:54.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Bertha Smith believed 12, and I think she held a lot to what I just discussed for you.

00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.360
<v SPEAKER_01>She said, child really can't understand right from wrong.

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, they know what's right and wrong, but they don't understand it.

00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:14.480
<v SPEAKER_01>And then, by the way, she said, until they have a desire and a hunger to live for God and understand that salvation is accountability and discipline, living for God, they really can't be saved.

00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And she is adamant about it.

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.119
<v SPEAKER_01>She died at 99.

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.039
<v SPEAKER_01>So, that's pretty good information for you.

00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.000
<v SPEAKER_01>She said she wanted to get saved, but God wouldn't let her.

00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.039
<v SPEAKER_01>She was way above my thinking.

00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.800
<v SPEAKER_01>She was, that woman just, she lived in the heavenlies.

00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:44.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Never listened to radio, never watched TV.

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:45.920
<v SPEAKER_01>All she did read the Bible.

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:47.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Read the Bible, memorize the Bible.

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.440
<v SPEAKER_01>She was unbelievable.

00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.320
<v SPEAKER_01>You could feel the presence of God in her presence.

00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:54.480
<v SPEAKER_01>You could.

00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:55.920
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm serious.

00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:11.679
<v SPEAKER_01>So, parents need to be sensitive to their children to discern when their understanding has developed sufficiently to understand right from wrong, but choose right over wrong.

00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, let me tell what I have observed over my years.

00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:28.960
<v SPEAKER_01>The more your children are in church and Sunday school, children's church, wanna and get the word of God in them, the quicker they are to understand.

00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:30.320
<v unknown>Amen.

00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:32.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay?

00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:32.719
<v SPEAKER_01>I've observed.

00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, very true for adults.

00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:38.880
<v SPEAKER_01>But you gotta teach them.

00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Now that's where Proverbs 22, 6 comes in.

00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:42.400
<v SPEAKER_01>This is good.

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Train up a child into where it should go and they'll never depart from it.

00:42:45.679 --> 00:43:04.800
<v SPEAKER_01>In other words, when you're sensitive to their growth in the Lord, so that you can lead them to Christ or watch them come to Christ at a younger age, which will keep them from a lot of sin and heartbreak and heartache.

00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Then you've done your job.

00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:17.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, in order to do that, you gotta know him yourself.

00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.119
<v SPEAKER_01>You gotta know the truth yourself.

00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:22.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Are you with me?

00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.119
<v SPEAKER_01>That makes sense?

00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:26.159
<v unknown>Yes, it does.

00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:27.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Sure it does.

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.480
<v SPEAKER_01>That's why we bring children in here when we do baptism.

00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.280
<v SPEAKER_01>So that's another question it's gonna ask.

00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.440
<v SPEAKER_01>When can my child get baptized?

00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.960
<v SPEAKER_01>When they understand what baptism is.

00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.199
<v SPEAKER_01>And what does that mean?

00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:51.519
<v SPEAKER_01>That means, therefore, we're buried with him by baptism and the death, like as Christ was buried and raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we can walk in newness of life.

00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:59.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Again, it's realizing the difference between right and wrong, and they have chosen, they want to live right and not wrong.

00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.639
<v SPEAKER_01>They want to bury their own way of living, raised to live for Jesus.

00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.239
<v SPEAKER_01>That's what baptism is.

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Same way with adults.

00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Make sense?

00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:09.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Same way with the Lord's Supper.

00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:12.800
<v SPEAKER_01>They got to understand it.

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Last question.

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Or the second toughest question out of a lot more question.

00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:29.039
<v SPEAKER_01>That's why you need to read Randy Alcorn's book on heaven.

00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.159
<v SPEAKER_01>He deals with all this stuff.

00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.480
<v SPEAKER_01>I've read everything, read it twice.

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.159
<v SPEAKER_01>How old will children be in heaven?

00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Finally, we consider the question of children's age.

00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:42.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, this is good.

00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:48.880
<v SPEAKER_01>That is when a child dies, especially as an infant, and certainly those who never have reached full term are born.

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:53.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Will that child be a child in heaven or a mature adult?

00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:02.400
<v SPEAKER_01>If an infant dies at too young of age to understand God on earth, how could that child enjoy and appreciate God in heaven as an infant?

00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:14.400
<v SPEAKER_01>Some argue that the book of Revelation depicts everyone in heaven worshiping God, which suggests that they are all be at the mature age of 30 with no blemishes.

00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:18.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that is.

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:20.880
<v SPEAKER_01>That's a bear straw.

00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:31.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Now, listen to what Alice McGrath suggests, and this came from Randy's Alcorn's book on heaven.

00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Interesting perspective.

00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:42.320
<v SPEAKER_01>As each person reaches their peak of perfection, that'll have to be when we go to be with Jesus.

00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:51.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Around the age of 30, do you realize you did I didn't reach my ultimate perfection at 30?

00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:52.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Now some of you may have.

00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.679
<v SPEAKER_01>I didn't.

00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:54.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Okay?

00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:03.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Around the age of 30, they will be resurrected as they would have appeared at that time, even if they had never lived to reach that age.

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:04.880
<v SPEAKER_01>But now watch.

00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:16.880
<v SPEAKER_01>The New Jerusalem, he says, but they will be perfected in no blemishes, but with every blemish removed.

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.360
<v SPEAKER_01>That's just one of a proof.

00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:19.760
<v SPEAKER_01>All right.

00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:21.360
<v SPEAKER_01>Now let me tell what I know.

00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I just have to go back to scripture.

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Isaiah 11, 8.

00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:32.079
<v SPEAKER_01>That there will be infants and children in the millennial, part of heaven.

00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:32.719
<v SPEAKER_01>I understand.

00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:33.519
<v SPEAKER_01>There will.

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Let me tell why I know that.

00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:42.960
<v SPEAKER_01>The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole, and the winged child shall put his hand in the viper's den.

00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:56.719
<v SPEAKER_01>So, if the millennium is part of heaven, there's some reasoning to believe that perhaps children will be in heaven and allowed to grow until they reach maturity at around the age of 30.

00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Then sort of, then they're frozen.

00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:01.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, I don't know.

00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.039
<v SPEAKER_01>That's just all right, here's another perspective.

00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:06.559
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm gonna give you one more.

00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:08.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I like this one.

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And this is the one that was in Dr.

00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:13.840
<v SPEAKER_01>Crow's book.

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:14.559
<v unknown>J.

00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:21.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Vernon McGee, fantastic theologian, gone to be with the Lord a long time ago, but still on the radio every day.

00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.519
<v SPEAKER_01>He says, I believe with all my heart.

00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.840
<v SPEAKER_01>All right, Mamas, get ready.

00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:39.679
<v SPEAKER_01>I believe with all my heart that God will raise the little ones such that the mother's arms, arms, plural, who have ached for them, will have the opportunity of holding them.

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.119
<v SPEAKER_01>The father's hand, which never held the little hand, will be given that privilege.

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:53.199
<v SPEAKER_01>I believe that little ones will grow up in the care of their earthly parents if the parents are saved.

00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.320
<v SPEAKER_01>There's another reason parents ought to be saved.

00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:04.480
<v SPEAKER_01>To summarize, we certainly do not know with certainty about the age of children in heaven.

00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.039
<v SPEAKER_01>The Bible simply does not say.

00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:17.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Whatever God's answers to these questions are, the answers he has, will be totally, complete, and awesome.

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:24.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And it will be satisfying to one parents who have lost their small children.

00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Let me close with this example.

00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Did that help, though?

00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Did that help answer some of your questions?

00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:33.039
<v SPEAKER_01>It has me.

00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:34.800
<v SPEAKER_01>It really has.

00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:46.079
<v SPEAKER_01>A family once lost their infant child when an older sister, boy, this is so good, asked where her new little baby brother was.

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.239
<v SPEAKER_01>The mother said, Honey, honey, don't worry.

00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.239
<v SPEAKER_01>He's going to be with Jesus.

00:48:53.199 --> 00:49:02.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Later, the older child heard her mother, though, expressing her grief to a friend over the telephone having lost her baby.

00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:06.800
<v SPEAKER_01>The little girl asked her mother after she heard the conversation.

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.000
<v SPEAKER_01>She said, Mom, is something lost when you know where it is?

00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.800
<v SPEAKER_01>No, dear, no, honey, the mother replied.

00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.880
<v SPEAKER_01>Then how can our baby be lost when we know he's with Jesus?

00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.760
<v SPEAKER_01>Woo! The wisdom of the little girl.

00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.440
<v SPEAKER_01>A baby's not lost when you know where it is.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And babies who die at an early age go to heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yes, give God a hand.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Every head bowed, every eye closed.
