ET Contact, Reptilians & Starseeds Explained | Rob Gauthier Channeling Pleiadians

Natalie sits down with renowned trance channeler and “ET Whisperer” Rob Gauthier for an extraordinary conversation about extraterrestrial consciousness, reptilian beings, starseeds, open contact and humanity’s evolving relationship with the galactic community.

Rob shares what he has learned from connecting with more than 1,000 different beings and races, why he believes humanity is entering a new phase of consciousness, and why increasing experiences of ET contact may be connected to our collective evolution.

They explore the spectrum of reptilian consciousness, humanity’s possible extraterrestrial genetic connections, starseed incarnations, the transition from third-density to fourth-density awareness, and what may need to happen before humanity experiences wider open contact.

Then Rob enters trance and channels Aridif, an ancient Pleiadian being, who shares a powerful message about the higher self, how much of our soul is embodied in physical form, following excitement as spiritual guidance, and a practical method for transforming limiting beliefs.

A fascinating journey into consciousness, contact and what it may mean to become part of a much larger cosmic community.

In this episode, they cover:

• Rob’s experience channeling over 1,000 different non-human beings and consciousnesses
• The nature of reptilian beings and the spectrum of “malevolent vs. benevolent” ET races
• Why Rob believes humanity is undergoing a collective shift in consciousness and evolution
• The idea of starseeds and extraterrestrial genetic influence in human DNA
• What “open contact” with extraterrestrial civilizations could look like for humanity
• The transition from 3rd-density to 4th-density awareness and what it means spiritually
• How individual consciousness growth may impact collective and even universal evolution
• Rob’s trance channeling process and what it feels like to leave the body during channeling
• The role of chaos, change, and integration in spiritual and personal development
• Natalie’s experiences with energy shifts, astral travel, and perceived interdimensional contact
• A live channeling session with Aridif, a Pleiadian being, sharing guidance on the higher self and belief transformation

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Namaste, beautiful souls. Today I have Rob Gorthear with me. And I'm sure many of you know him because he is the E.T. whisperer and he's a well-known and well-respected trans channeler. And I don't know if any of you know this, but when I connect with my guests, I can sense the energy. And with Rob, it was like, oh, expansion. And Rob, something incredible happened just before we came online together. My bow speaker just came on by itself and it said connected to M-I-H-A-E-L. And I was like, what, Michael? But it's missing the C, but it said that. Then it was like disconnected. Then it was connected. Then it was this. So I went to it and I put it in my hand and it went connected to M-I-H-A-E-L. And I was like, Archangel Michael's here strongly. The frequencies are starting to move. I've put that bow speaker in another room because I can feel that our frequencies coming together is already affecting electronics.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

I love that. It's interesting that it was Michael. Um uh I've channeled Metatron many times, but Archangel Michael's kind of the archetypal energy um of the archangel energy that I've uh been uh born into, you know, and connected with. So that's very, very interesting, very synchronistic.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Wow, that's huge. Well, okay, I they've got so many questions in so many spaces. I feel like, okay, one of the things you talk about is the reptilian energy. Um, because there's a lot of like, okay, there's darkness, there's light, there's all sorts around it. So I just want to add a little bit of like my own experience here because this will help give um understanding. Um, I I've been working with the the angels and more recently the Arcturians and these other beings that call themselves the all direction beings. And I've never had a lot of encounters with darkness, like I'm super high frequency. But in the last 25 years that I've been channeling and working with the energy twice, I've worked with two people that were actually had dark energy like taken over. They were taken over. It was pretty scary. Um, but uh I managed to raise my frequency so high so those entity entities couldn't attach to me, and actually we got rid of them. Um and and so there's this dark and there's this light happening here, and also in the galactic, and I actually really feel that humans need to know more about it. Could you could you enlighten us?

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Yeah, this is uh actually one of my favorite topics. One of my main guides that I channel is a reptilian human hybrid named Treb. And his race is uh a very loving and very heart-centered race. And um, you know, I think I was the first person, uh at least on social media like YouTube back in 2010 that channeled an entity that was reptilian that wasn't necessarily a darker energy. Um, so it's you're right, the spectrum uh and and energy that we have here on Earth relating to you know darkness and light, just duality in general, it's it's in the universe. The whole universe has darkness and lightness. Uh, we can see that manifest physically by the way space works, right? We have black holes that rip apart things and rebirth them. So it has a little bit of that violence tendency and destruction tendency, but also the rebirth. So it's a very natural energy just in general for the entire universe. And a lot of the reptilian energy is in a very uh neutral to a very dark energy. Uh, so when it relates to a lot of reptilians, there are a lot of malevolent reptilian races that exist out there. And I think human history uh with reptilian or reptilian hybrid species that we've had from the time we developed on Earth uh and and kind of evolved as souls here on earth has been a bit mixed and contentious. And when that happens, obviously our reality will be uh painted by that perception. So most people, you know, uh at least in Western society, they think of reptilians, they think of evil. And it's funny, I've spent a lot of time in Japan doing my work out there, and they have an opposite effect. They think of the dragon energy as majestic and powerful. Um, so I think, you know, in reality, it's always a little bit of each, and it's a little bit in the middle. A lot of people say, oh, all reptilians are bad, or hey, everything in the universe is love and light only. And it's both, you know what I mean? We have that spectrum of duality, and these reptilian energies uh kind of sit in there. And this is something I've explored deeply in my own personal life: the spectrum of life possibilities. And I went through a lot of very difficult times when I was younger. Um, the younger version of Rob that existed wasn't the nicest person. I had violent tendencies, uh, I wasn't a very nice guy in general. And then through the the act of having my son, I figured out what love was. And there were still a lot of back and forth with that for many years. But eventually I figured out, oh, you know, this is not the way to exist. This isn't going to benefit me or my loved ones ever, and integrated love. And then I went really far into that spectrum and pushed away all things bad and said, ooh, you know, the world is crazy and I don't want to deal with that. So I pushed that away. And then through my second child, my daughter, 20 years later, uh long after I had been channeling, like 2019. So I had been channeling almost a decade at that point, and realized, oh, I need to integrate and accept all those parts of me that did exist and still do exist within me. Um, you know what I mean? I think all humans have that good and bad in them, and we have to choose how to use that, how to integrate it, how to work with it. Um, you know, because we live in a world that's a little crazy. I'm glad that I have that part of me that can protect my family if I needed to. If there was ever an issue that happened around my family, I could say, hey, I can now take care of that. Um, but also on my day-to-day life, choose love, choose acceptance, choose support, and choose all the good things that I need. So it's really been a crazy journey with me personally exploring and going through the whole spectrum of what humans can do just in general on Earth.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

If we actually stop and look at our own mind, we realize how mad our mind is. We have an insane mind, the human mind. Like I I've done so I I live in awareness and I I watch my own mind, and I I often am laughing or I'm like shocked at what it can come up with. And and and I just um I'm not, I used to be attached to the character of Natalie and believe every thought that came through, and now there's this space, and I'm able to recognize oh my, we have this crazy mind, and we're busy like filtering it out and clearing it out. And so as we do that individually by recognizing, and sometimes I'll be like this, nope, I'm not feeding that thought, not a chance, and I look the other way, and um that thought then disintegrates, and it's not a part of my reality anymore. But yeah, it takes effort to it takes effort to be to remain aware. But I feel like as we do it individually, then we're dissolving that um those programs, those patterns, that like fear, that like density, we dissolve it, and then in the spaciousness, we can actually utilize our mind um in a much like healthier and um creative and clear way. And I feel like that has an influence on the galactics. I feel like because if there's galactic wars out there, I asked myself this, I was like, well, where do they start? It's gotta start. If I have the perception of it, it's through my perception that it exists.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Yeah, it's a very good point. And and the the energy of how our minds can be and our energies can be all over the place. You I think you're absolutely right. We have to work with understanding where this energy comes from, why it comes there. Uh on Earth and Jinner, we have a lot of trauma, uh, historical trauma, we have personal trauma in our lives. Uh, most of us weren't born with a very spiritual perspective. We may have been taught spirituality or may have been taught a religion and we found spiritual connection through that. But living vibrationally taught us that those things weren't necessarily true. Like you don't have to love your neighbor because your dad just yelled at your neighbor. Uh, you know, you don't have to be kind and loving to others with a religious ideology of uh Christianity, you know, because we see it happen. Yeah, the people I love and trust and respect are doing this. You know, even the moment we're born, we have doctors and nurses standing around us kind of freaking out mentally and emotionally, like, oh, or bored out of their mind. This is just a job, and the mom and dad are freaking out. Oh, no. So vibrationally, we're just taught all these things as we're here. And the process of learning how to undo that programming, the process of learning how to be your most authentic self without compromise, without uh apology, and how to work within a system of a collective, I think that's it. And I think uh a lot of people, you know, strive for that their whole life and they feel disappointed when they can't get it. But I personally think and believe that that's the only thing that we do with life is keep learning. I feel like every time I think I have a good grip on everything, I learn way more. And then I'm like, oh, I didn't really understand this or know any of this at all. Or my perspective has just grown vastly from this difficult or very positive experience. Uh, and I think that's the other caveat, too, right? We have belief systems on earth that say the only way you can learn is through really good stuff or really bad stuff. And again, it's it's really kind of both, and learning how to not so much not feel pain or not feel difficulty or not deal with the struggle of life, you know, not to necessarily just keep that out of out of your reality, but learn how you can emotionally react differently to those and how to see those things differently as positive things, as things that teach you lessons. And then you can experience it way better, you know. Like if you if you get into a car crash and you're like, oh my God, this is the worst thing that possibly ever happened to me, well, then it's gonna be the worst thing that possibly ever happened to you. It will precipitate more and more of that. But if you're like, hey, I wonder what this is for, I know everything happens for a reason. I know I'm creating my own reality. Why did this happen? Then you have the opportunity to reframe, oh, six months later, I just got the car I've been needing that doesn't have to have problems with it. I don't have to take the mechanic every six months. You know, little things like this, if we give ourselves the opportunity to react different and see a difference, it that's everything.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

And the great thing is that the power lies in us. Like we can just by the having this conversation, anyone who's listening, you they can just go immediately, oh, I am completely in charge. I all the energy and light is here, I can shift my perception.

unknown 11:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Yeah, absolutely. I like also how you said the galactic thing. I I think a lot of people in our community uh have an understanding of that, but they also maybe don't understand why or how. Uh, but I think you're right, everything we're doing here affects everything, like the whole universe. Um, and it's funny, you know, some of the perspectives for higher-dimensional beings is like, oh, these beings are very wise, uh, omnipresent, you know, omnifocused. These things, these beings are are superior to us, right? We're just dumb little humans, and these beings are so amazing. But one of the beings I channel, uh, his name is Ardiff, and he is a sixth-density or seventh-dimensional Pleiadian being, ancient Pleiadian being. And uh, in my perspective, he's very wise, right? And when I hear him speak and talk about mechanics of consciousness and all the things, uh, you know, spiritual evolution, I'm really sometimes amazed. And, you know, I've always thought, like, wow, the these beings help us and teach us so much stuff. But something he starts saying, probably in the last five years or so, when people are like, Thank you so much for everything you shared and this beautiful insight. I wish there was something I could give to you, he would reply, When you're connecting with me, we're connecting to you and your higher self. And when you ask these questions, we give you these answers. So just that act itself, we get to see parts of ourselves that we never saw because we're looking at parts of you that we've never seen. And by that, the the person who's asking questions, the human in that exchange is learning and the art if is learning. So we always said, congratulations for growing and thank you for helping us grow. And I was like, wow, that's very profoundful. You know, uh profound experience of co-creating is something we only see what benefits us from. But in reality, if one of us understands something, or one of us grows, or one of us uses our heart, or one of us expands our mind, everything that touches us expands, and everything that touches that expands, and eventually the whole universe grows and expands with just one person's thought.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

I love it because it's frequency. So we go up higher octaves of frequency, and it it sends those ripples out like I can I can see them. I can see the the the patterns that then go out and touch others, and then that as that touches, it's like music. I I'm hearing it as sound and patterns and color and light. It's it's huge.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

I love the way you describe that. It's uh it's like a symphony of souls in harmony together, doing the growing, you know, doing the experience, doing the expansion of consciousness. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

And and talking about expansion of consciousness, like lately I've noticed, okay, we'll have these moments where we have a collective expansion. Like a lot of my community have been feeling ascension symptoms, like um in the brain, a lot going on in the brain, or feeling like pressure buildup and then and then a release, or feeling actually feeling light in the body, and it's so strong. Like one of the sensations I experience is when I say to myself, uh come back, be fully present, and then I'm present. My solar plexus goes wild, and it at first it can feel like anxiety because it's so much energy, and I understand why um we've always like tried to run away from that, but actually I turn towards it and I was like, the solar plexus is like our internal sun, our power center. If we are not no longer scared of like the the amount of energy that can be held there, we can astral travel, we can shift and experience other timelines, we can have uh quite uh profound experiences physically. And I know you also like to physically experience like these conscious expansions. So, what have you been experiencing and what have you been learning through like the visceral experience of consciousness actually growing?

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yeah, it's a it's a beautiful question. Uh, I think the beautiful part of that is as individual, fractal souls, all of us with different personalities and aspects, we all get very, very different experiences. So my archetype is one that's very grounded, where you have like a natural affinity for the etherical chakras, third eye, crown chakra, the heart chakra, throat chakra. These are ones that run very strong for you. So you're always, you know, able to feel other people's energy and be very intuitive and be in sync with energy and understand it, uh, which a lot of people in our community are. I'm on the other side of the spectrum. I'm in my lower chakras most and work with my heart as a higher chakra. And it's it's odd because not most people who are channelers and most people who work with consciousness actually are your type, the type that work with the higher chakra energies. But because I work with the lower chakra energies and the heart, I end up experiencing my spirituality very differently. So, in the etheric types of things like going into meditation, astral projected state, when I'm channeling, I'm in a full trance. So I'm sleeping and my consciousness is out of my body. So I'm connecting with my guide, Trev. And that's what I experience when I channel. And I think it's the only way I could channel because I'm such an earthly based and grounded type of person. So even though I can connect, um, the majority of my spiritual experience happens inside the body. It happens through relationships, interactions with people, it happens with experiences. So I'll give you an example. For someone who has the higher etherical energy and the chakras like mostly in the higher energy, their spiritual experience is like astroprojection, meeting a guide face to face, um, exploring the universal consciousness and kind of expanding that way. But for someone who's more earth-based inside of their chakra system or even their archetype of consciousness, like for me, I'm an earth-seed. So I've been like in all the incarnations from Earth in the cycles that have Earth. So before humans, like before Lanteans, before Lumerians, I had been doing earth incarnations. So it makes sense. I'm in the lower chakra, but the way I experience it is when I go to the beach and the sun is hitting my face, I feel that and my body reacts to it. It appreciates the energy, the beauty. Um, going to the playground with my daughter, taking my son on a road trip. These types of experiences are very physical, but that's the fuel for my spiritual expansion. And a lot of the time when I see my consciousness expansion happen, it's not through any of these things because I can already kind of do them, but only when I shut down and focus only on that. Uh, consciousness expansion for me looks a lot different uh than it than it did in my early spiritual part. So for me, now it looks like, oh, the insight of what I'm doing in this moment with this person has shifted drastically. Something where I couldn't understand the resistance. In the moment, I'm figuring that stuff out way quicker instead of a week after or a month or a year. I'm like, oh, in the moment I'm figuring, oh yeah, this is why this is happening. And I can shift my energy inside of it in that moment. So I think this is also something a lot of people in our community kind of dismiss. A lot of people who are in touch with energy, they're seeing a lot of people that they don't think is awake or they don't think is conscious, but they're just experiencing it in a very different way. They're experiencing life through the thought process, the mental process, or they're experiencing the experience like I described with myself. And because I have a foot in both worlds, because I can go to that etherical place and astroproject, and I spent years developing that with myself, I really do understand it very well. But I also understand the the aspects of the people who don't understand consciousness or maybe don't believe in it. They just kind of think that we're here on accident and that we're just mumbling through the day.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Beautiful community. I just want to ask for a little bit of help today. My podcast is fairly new to Apple Podcasts. So if you're enjoying these conversations, then could you hop over there and follow, share, write a review? Because as you do that, it is helping this beautiful energy to reach other people who might need to hear this message today. Thank you for your light and support.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

I still see those people growing in the way that they're thinking, how they perceive the world, uh, figuring out that some of these problems that are happening are happening for different reasons, and and that us as a planet is trying to work through it and evolve together. So different understanding, but the same level of growth and expansion. And you know, I I'm sorry I keep blabbing on.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

No, I love it, please.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Well, I appreciate it. Something Tre Bernard have told me, the two guys I work with the most from 2010, they always described that this part of Earth is going to be a growth, right? People, it was I started channeling publicly when around 2012. So people are like, hey, what's happening in 2000, or not 2012, sorry. I started channeling in 2010, and 2012 is right around the corner. So people are asking, what is 2012 all about? And a lot of people, you know, some of the uh channelings that were out and just other various talk around the campfire, 2012, everyone's gonna fly out of their window, you know, fifth dimensional consciousness instantly. And so people are like, hey, can we expect that on December 21st? And Treb's like, no, it is an important date because it's in the center of a bigger cycle. There's nine years before 2012, there's nine years after 2012, and 2012 is just kind of the middle. Mark where things can get uh most intense from the old energy, right? A peak in the old energy and a start to the new energy. So it's like a peak in the middle of that uh 18-year cycle. So that means 2003, all the way to 2021, and we see what happened in 2021, 2019, the world shifted. A lot of people's perspectives became different. People who were conscious saw it in one way. Uh, who, and by conscious, I mean they're consciously aware of their own uh spirituality and growth. And then people who didn't understand saw it in a very different way, but everyone saw the same thing. Oh, the systems that we have here on the greater earth don't work. Oh, we're being told different things from different groups of people all the time. What is their intention? What is their desire? So we saw these systems kind of of oppression that happen in a larger scale be undermined. And we saw people, like half the people were like super afraid of losing their freedom, and the other half were super afraid of losing their mortality or their health. But that fear made them look inside of themselves. And then they had a year or several months to just sit in their house and think and not have to go to work. And it really helped as a catalyst for the growth and expansion for where we're at today. And outside looking in, people outside of spiritual community always say, I thought the earth was supposed to get better. It is. Um, chaos is a byproduct of change, and I don't mind that.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

What are your guides saying about like now? What like this year, 2026, and then like uh are they showing anything else? Like what is happening with humanity? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Yeah, so they they don't really work um too much on uh specific timelines because even their perspective is like every moment is now moment, and we're choosing that as we go. So, you know, they've always put a cap on like open contact, for example. That's something big in the ET channeling community. Like, when is open contact? And you know, channelers like Daryl Enka, good, a good friend of mine who channels Pashar. Uh, his the being he channels like 2027, it's gonna be 2027. I've heard other people say 2026, I've heard other people say 2028. Um, my guides have always said it would be uh within probably the next, like last year, I believe they said it will be within the next one to 35 years. And it just depends on how we react as humans. So those types of specifics they don't really get into because they realize each of us are creating it individually, and then we also have to create on a collective level. But what they do say is that humans in general are transitioning from one level of evolution of the soul, which was perceived as a third density or fourth dimensional, to a place that's like a fourth density or fifth dimensional. And all that means is free 2021, our soul focus was uh understanding ourselves, and then 2021 out, understanding our connections. So connection to people, connection to the collective consciousness, connection to our identity, connection to our jobs, connection to how we operate, literally our energy connection to everything. And this is the theme of humans, not just this life, but for the next several hundreds of years or thousands of years. If we keep coming back to reincarnate, we're just gonna grow that expansion of connection. And as we do have the experience on Earth, knowing that extra-dimensional beings are real and extraterrestrial beings are real, that's gonna be one of those uh benchmarks of us growing and connecting. We're gonna learn, oh, we are actually a global community. Oh, you know, we can still have countries and we can still have identities and we can still have the way that we want to do our own cultures or whatever we choose as humans, we can still do that and still see that we're all human and still see that we are one race and see that we are connected to each other, and then we get opportunity to be a part of the galactic community, which means we open up the doors to our new neighbors, the nice reptilians, the other humanoids, the amphibians, the insectoids, whoever wants to come out and play, and whoever we resonate with, but we have to get through that core door first of us all being able to connect with each other. Not necessarily with like love in the sense of the word that that you or I would want love to happen with. Like me and you would say we should love each other, respect each other, but at least understanding and acceptance. So I think we still have maybe two, three, four more years, but uh it really depends, you know, a lot on how we choose our individual choices and kind of go from there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Yeah, totally. And and then our galactic friends, our star origin and families and these extraterrestrial beings that are all um vibrating in other dimensions and spaces? There's a lot of people that are connecting more with them and having like a direct experience. Um because you you channel like loads of different ETs. Um what are you understanding from them? Like what do they think about humanity and also um like are they are they more focused towards Earth and humanity and supporting us? Like it because what I see is like I just see all eyes turning and like focusing. Um what what is happening?

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Yeah, so that you know, this is a a complex question too, because you're right, we have a lot of interaction with Earth right now with other races. We have uh more ships showing up in the sky, we have more sightings, we have more personal contact, CE5, or direct communication contact, like channeling or telepathy, you know. So there is, there's a lot more. And it's funny, when I first start channeling, there was like three or four well-known channelers that were out on YouTube, and and like a handful, half a dozen, a couple dozen at the most, channelers in general that were easy to find through search engine on YouTube. Uh, and now you have to dig through tens of thousands. So that's a byproduct of the expansion and and wakening up of people in the level for dimensionality and their own consciousness. Um, and that's also been a kind of a part of my own mission. Teaching people to how to channel was always something that was important to me because it's not a great gift that only the chosen are given. Everyone has that ability to channel and connect. So, you know, teaching people how to channel and things has always been my excitement. But so the answer to the question is it's kind of complex because every race has their own perspective and their own reasons for wanting to co-create with humans. Even the individuals within races, you see the split of some old races, like the Anunnaki, um, was the first race that changed kind of the course for humans. And they had some of uh them that seen us as glorified pets or admired us, some fell in love with us, like sexually, uh, you know, created children with us in the history uh of our own, like really, really early human stuff, like two million years ago. And then you had the ones that just hated us. They're like, oh, this was a mistake. We should have never uh altered these beings and wanted us to just go away and perish. So even that's just one race that has such a wildly drastic different perspective on humans. So the ones that work with us now, most of them are genetic givers. They're they're like apparent to us. Um, Oxurian, Syrian, Pleiadian, Reptilian, we have DNA from all of those beings, and that's why humans are kind of seen as special. We're not the only genetic uh playground in in the galaxy by any means, but we have a very long history with multiple donors of genetics. Uh, this is why wars have happened here on Earth. Um, in the early time, you go to the ancient Hindu text, and you could see like actual ET races fighting each other here because of that. And then eventually uh it was all shut off, like a quarantine. Like, no, no one will go around humans anymore. A lot of races agreed. Some uh some of the races that were a bit more malevolent um in the reptilian, like draconian types of beings, they they just said militarily, no, we cut this whole place off from other races. They need to grow on their own, they need to do their own. And then when it comes that time, and now's that time, the end of an old cycle, the beginning of a new one. So we're seeing more and we're getting more interactions. The thing I would say is most of the beings that we connect with, because they have relation to us, because they have our best interests at heart, they want to help us, they want to teach us. Um, most of them are higher dimensional. So even to physically interact, they have to create physical avatars. They have to drop down dimension, create a physical avatar in our dimension and break apart their consciousness to enter. So it's a lot like having an avatar or a consciousness robot, you know, or something. Something that, you know, like making a physical body that actually works, but putting consciousness in it from a higher dimension. Um these beings want to help us out. Now, you go to the hybrid beings, like um the being that Daryl Anka channels, um Sasani beings or uh Yahel beings. A lot of people say, oh, these beings only want to connect with humans because they want to live here. They see us as family and they want to live here. That might be the case. Just because their whole intention is is different doesn't mean that what they're sharing isn't uh any less valuable or how they share it is less valuable or tainted. Um, you know, some of those ancestral beings have guilt, you know. They're like, oh, we we really didn't do you right a long time ago. We should have done better with you. Uh so we want to make up for that. We've got other beings who are just like humans are perfect. They're our children, we will give them whatever they want. Uh, and then you got beings who won't do anything. They're just like, nope, hands-off approach, you know, humans create your own stuff. We create from over here, we'll give you love. Maybe if you connect with us consciously, we'll connect with you. Um, but it's so so many different perspectives. And that is the advantage I've had from channeling so many different types of beings, probably over a thousand at this point, um, different types of races or beings. It's really a crapshoot. You know, the spectrum of what's possible exists out there just like it does here. So they all have their different reasonings and and different perspectives, I think.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Wow, stuff's going on with my my crown chakra. I'm feeling so much energy, and the room's gone into like fractals of light. It's incredible. Whoa. So, okay. Um you know, you know, like that some beings have been found in physical body. So like I think the government's uh basically I did some remote viewing and I went underground and I've seen what's going on, and um um and I saw physical be like they physical beings. So then like what I feel is that they've they had to condense their light into physical form, and so they especially did that, but I feel like this feeling that I get is actually they especially did it and they knew that they'd get caught because that's all part of it.

unknown 34:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Yeah, I think you're right. It's um a lot of the beings who are physical that have crashed here are you know cut they're breaking consciousness out, you know. Some of them completely disincarnate, um, from what I've heard. Some of them are like, okay, I'm dying now. I'm going to let go of this body and manifest two or three new bodies on Earth as humans. So they're born, they're they don't have any ET genetics, they're actually humans, but the souls come in, and that's what we call star seeds a lot of the time. And then some of them actually, their body is still existing in a higher dimension, but they're breaking off consciousness, like you said, a compression of light almost, and then um entering into the physical realm. And they're still existing up there on their ship. They're just they don't have enough consciousness to go through their daily routine, so they're kind of in a stasis or or shutting down their own consciousness so that they can focus on that life. You know, a hundred years to them is is nothing. If if you're a race that lives 2,000 years, it's like a short vacation, a long vacation, but a vacation, you know what I mean? And the purpose behind that visit, I think you're right, just to teach, teach humans, uh, and work with humans and have that co-creation and collaboration for sure.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah. And you've you've connected with over a thousand different species. Um is there something like that comes to mind right now that um that when you when you channeled and when a message came through, it like it shook you from the inside. Like it is there, I'm sure there's so many. So let's just see what arises. But one moment where you had like a major realization and cracking open that that just comes to mind right now that you'd like to share.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Yeah, there's two main ones. Um I'll generically uh uh briefly discuss the first one because it was an old um like very, very like before I publicly channeled, or maybe right after I started publicly channeling, Trev connected me to a consciousness that was equivalent of a galaxy. And uh it was huge, right? No human can channel that because a consciousness of a whole galaxy is like, you know, hundreds of quin trillions of beings. But just the amount that came into my body through that channeling sort uh short-circuited me a little bit. I couldn't talk for about two weeks, I couldn't sleep very well. Like my sentences were like stuttering. Um, I saw all these visualizations, but after that, my channeling grew quite quickly. Um, and that basically gave me a perspective of how small we are in the fractal of consciousness as a human in our body. It's just such a tiny thing compared to the big. The second one is connecting to a uh draconian reptilian being. Um, this being uh was of the malevolent type, and I know a lot of people are freaked out when they hear that. They're like, why would you channel a negative being? Ardif and Trep, my guides, actually do the channeling for me. So I channel for them, and then they will channel these beings. So technically, I've communicated with a thousand different beings, but they are the ones that channel them. So it's always filtered through them. I'm always protected, uh, I trust them implicitly. But also, I think these malevolent beings should be given a voice. I want to hear what they have to say. My opinion is always like there's no uh wrong in the universe because the universe is perfect, even if it's really horrific stuff that I don't love or that makes me feel bad. I've accepted enough of that inside of myself where I want to hear what these beings have to say. And as soon as I channeled that being, I realized that the way that I saw them, a a human who had five, six, seven years channeling, who knew all the histories about the galactic reptilians, uh draconians, earth reptilians, you know, races like Theta Tauri, all of these different things, I was very, very knowledgeable about, right? I I knew the history, I knew their energy, and I thought I understood what they were, but I misunderstood them horribly. Instead of seeing them as a race of beings who evolved a certain way for a certain reason, I was like, oh, these beings are just malevolent because that's their role in the galaxy, which is true, but also there was a lot more to it. So yeah, and endless, endless amounts of these types of interactions. Some of them are just like the mental curiosity I used to do on my YouTube, and I'm gonna try to do it again. Uh, the galactic um monthly channelings or weekly channelings I did, I always had another race of beings that I would channel and bring in. And some of these beings are the most wild types of beings. There was like electromagnetic beings, beings who live by a black hole. There were like blobbish beings who were gelatinous, like weird stuff, like stuff that my mind would have never thought was possible. So, like from a curiosity standpoint, I loved all of those channelings.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

As you're talking about that, you know, when you hear frequency, I just the whole frequency went so high. And um, it it makes me want to share something that I experienced. So I was I was with Neil, you know, Neil that he put us connected us, and I was at the New Living Expo, and the frequency was so high. And I spoke there and and we had like a huge activation, and then I came home and something was going on with my electricity, and the backup battery was going wild. So I knew something high frequency was happening. Next minute I started to connect with the all direction beings, they took me remote viewing and all this thing. Then there I I didn't know this was gonna happen, but I was in front of my phone, I'd press record, and I was doing a YouTube energy update, and the all direction beings channeled through me for the first time. After that, after I pressed stop, and then I was immediately I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna put in my phone what that was about, because like when I channel, I I don't really remember afterwards so much about it. So I was writing it down next minute. Um, my body started convulsing. Like I felt blood rush to the right side of my brain, and um I I heard this voice and it sounded metallic. It said, um, it said, Your your hand's moving by itself, and I was like, oh, and and I was like, oh, left brain still working. Oh, oh, am I okay? And then boom, like like a like a fit or a seizure, or I don't know, something wild happened to my body. But when I came round again, and it maybe it was just a minute, I came round again, I my whole body was in pins and needles, and um and but I could stand and I could talk and I could uh drink water and I was totally fine, and I just had this major upgrade. And and so yeah, now I can channel them comfortably, but that was my first experience of channeling them. It really messed with my body like uh hugely, it was so high frequency that I do understand what you're talking about being able to channel a whole galaxy. Whoa, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

That's a wild ride, it sounded like holy moly. And uh, yeah, Neil, Neil's a good guy. I love him, uh, and the events he does is great. But yes, that's so you had uh uh understanding of the intensity that happens, and it's funny. Um I've had some people describe their experience as crazy like that, but you're right, the energy, like the physical electromagnetic or etheric or whatever kind of energy you want to call it, gets very intense when you get these types of consciousnesses going through you. So I love that. I I really love that for you. I'm sure it was scary, but um also great results, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Absolutely, and it's maybe even more grounded, more embodied, because that's the only way you can be a channel is be in your body. Um, I actually would love you to channel for us today if yeah, if you feel open to it. And um yeah, I when when you channel, do you do do you just flow with it or do you want me to ask questions or how how are you feeling it?

SPEAKER_02 42:32

Yeah, yeah. Um so normally whenever I channel, um, I bring in uh Treb or Ardif and then they share a little bit and then they're open for questions. So either way, uh depending on how long we have for it, um, would depend on on which way, because usually they can talk for about five minutes or so, maybe ten minutes about a subject or a topic, sometimes longer if they get carried away. Um, or you could just ask questions right off the bat. Either way is fine with me.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

I want to just give them space to talk and um yeah, and and we'll just flow like that. I'll keep an eye on the time so that I can bring you back to make sure that it's um, yeah, you you have space and time to come back.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Yeah, that would be wonderful. Uh, if you don't mind, I'll I'll I'll have to shut down the camera so I can go grab my water real quick, but I'll be right back uh after my water because I have to drink a lot when I'm channeling and I just finished my water ahead of here.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

Definitely. I'm gonna drink some water, and I recommend everyone let's take a pause and have some water right now. And as you drink the water and you bring all conscious awareness to drinking it, you can become extremely aware of the codes of energy and light that's held in the water. And it may even taste different and become so conscious and aware that you can feel the water moving down your body and what it's doing in the cells. Alright, we're ready for you, Rob.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Alright, it takes uh about a minute or so to get in, and uh when they get here, they'll let you know that they're here and and I'll let them know that it's okay to share. I'll probably bring in Rdiff uh first. He's um my sixth uh density, fifth or seventh dimensional uh Pleiadian, uh ancient Pleiadian being from D-Nip. And uh he's he's pretty good. So enjoy. Have fun.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

That is A R I, D I F, and this. Is it spelled? We understand that you may have some queries for this day, but before going in, to those queries there are three things that we wish to express. The first, above and beyond all things that are expressed in this day, to know, to feel, and to perceive, that you are loved in our perspective is of the utmost importance. Secondly, it is our greatest excitement and within that same form of great excitement in which we co-create with you, not only in this moment of your time, but through all of your linear time experience as well. Thirdly, Rob has asked us to share from our own perspective a message for the greater collective within this group of consciousness. So we share one thing with all of you. The experience of life upon earth in this moment is a crossroads of consciousness for those who are integrating their own understanding and their own ability to find the answers internally for themselves, and of course, a group of humans who experience through the positive or negative orientation of the experiences that they have. These are what some of you may call hard learners in that sense. They experience and the reaction of that experience energetically to them will dictate their decision for the next time that they engage in that experience. And those of you who are working with the consciousness integration, the embodiment of more of your higher self anchored into the physical body, you are working with those layers of consciousness intuitive, to your higher self intuitive, to the aspects of the growth and dimension of consciousness that you desire to work with in that embodied sense. First of all, when we speak of fractalization, when we speak of the higher self, it is important to note that your soul, in its totality, 100% of your fractal of consciousness that exist. For most humans, only 10 to 15% of that soul is held inside of the body. Some of you who work with higher levels of consciousness may be 17 or 19 or 21% of the total soul inside of the body. But this time period, the growth from that third to fourth density, as Rob had expressed, this is the integration process, not of a different focus or area of your growth and development. Yes, of course, that is the byproduct of the higher levels of your soul anchoring into your physical body. So, in that transference of consciousness, most of you who are at 15% of your total soul anchored into the body, inhabiting the body, you are higher than 3% or 4% from 10 years previous to that moment. The rest of your soul outside of the body, this is what you can perceive as your higher self. In that higher self, there is a fifth-dimensional version of yourself. There is a sixth-dimensional version, a seventh-dimensional version, and its totality in total is the higher self, or as we would share, the higher fractal consciousness. So you work with this higher self through your daily expression experiences in order to create the reality that you desire, and when you know that you are creating it, it gives you a great benefit in how to create that space in front of you. We always share that the higher self works with you, in the essence of showing you that pathway closest to what your soul desires to experience. And despite what many humans believe, the experience itself is not simply curated for you. Yes, the opportunity for you to be born to the parents that you desire, the place in the world, the time, all of that as a soul, is up to your own discretion. But the soul itself only desires experience. When you enter the physical reality and your fractal, the lower fractal consciousness, as we would call the personality self, that part only anchored in the body, truly connects to that physical body, then you are in charge. Your higher self assists you, but your decisions dictate the pathway. So the tool that we shared with you, the higher self, is very similar to the analogy that Rob finds extremely entertaining. The higher self shows you the way. As a human does playing with their cat, they pick up the point laser and put the laser tot on the floor, and the cat chases these. Your higher self shows you what area to go to next, and the laser itself is excitement, passion, joy. You feel passion, excitement, and joy, purely as a pathway creator. If you follow those joys, the passions, excitements, you will get to that greater next door, the next part of your evolution, the next part of your soul's expansion, for the predetermined ideas that you and your higher fractal consciousness agreed upon before entering that experience as a human on earth in this incarnation cycle as well. We will take your queries at your leisure.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Thank you for this wisdom and these codes of energy and light that I can feel. I know that uh there will be some people in the community that would love to know the answer to this. So our soul shines the light and and then our um like lower self, the human aspect, the the personality, then follows that. So sometimes what happens is at first we get this inspiration and we feel the passion, but then something happens along the way where it's kind of like we get hijacked by our lower mind, or it feels like um we then there's like an urgency, oh, if we don't do it, or um we start putting pressures on ourselves and it kind of loses that excitement and passion. How can we be more aware to be able to recognize when that's happening and and kind of keep bringing ourselves back to the original inspiration so that we can keep manifesting from that higher frequency rather than dropping and then kind of being controlled by our ego?

SPEAKER_03 53:49

Yes, first of all, if you are meeting resistance each time you follow your excitement, there's a reason for this. There are belief systems that you have that are resistant to your expression of excitement in your earth experience. If you try and then feel as if your emotions or mindsets are being pulled upon into a negative way, detracting that from you desire, then of course this experience is showing you their resistance is there. So, in the essence, your higher self doesn't care if you achieve or do not achieve, following that passion. And for most humans, it is the end goal of that passion that they are fixated and focused on. What we are saying. If you attempt to follow your excitement, and you don't have fixation on the way it will or will not manifest, no expectations in how it will be created, simply the act of action. Once your own excitement takes hold, that is the lesson, that is the next step. If you meet resistance, it shows you why, it shows you where. Now, there are truly literally infinite ways for humans to work around the problems that you have in manifestation mostly, belief systems mostly, repetitive thought processes that are negative in orientation or emotional trauma reactions, these three can be dealt with simultaneously or differently, and done so with many different versions of techniques. But one thing that we can share with you that is very quick. If you have a trinket, a ring, a watch, painted fingernails, something that you are able to visually see every moment of the day that you are awakened. This reminds you to be aware of your thoughts. Then, when you come into a place of reactive or negative emotions, track back your thought patterns for the last few minutes. Where did those thoughts start feeling negative? Where did you have the reaction in the body? Where did you have that reaction in your mental state? Then when you trace that one thought that holds resistance, ask yourself what belief do I hold about this topic that I cannot create through, that I am feeling negative about, what belief in this limits me? Now, of course, there is a ten-step process to relieve most humans in all of their belief systems. It's a system that we worked with, Ruth Robb and Treble Hitney and Kalina many years previously, and is still available for all humans to co-create with because of its importance from Rob's perspective. But if you can follow those three simple rules to identify that belief, then reconditioning the belief is easier. Ask yourself in that moment how to retrain the thought. Say to yourself, if my belief is that I don't feel strong enough to be heard, then you ask yourself, what is the opposite of this? What is the truth of this? And the truth is you are only not being heard because you are afraid to be heard. You are powerful, you can be heard. So the truth, you can be heard, repeated nine times verbally out loud. In that moment, by creating new thought pattern, using it nine times, each time that only once a negative thought comes in, then you can retrain the neural pathways of the brain to start reacting towards a positive mindset. Remember, these negative thoughts are ones that have built highways in your neural pathway regency. And through those decades or years of negative thought orientation, it becomes your instant reaction when the emotions are triggered, when the thought process becomes triggered. So revamping a new pathway with a truer truth, with a more empowering truth, nine times, each time the negative mindset is triggered, then you'll start building your new highway of healthy reactivity rather than that of dispassionate or disempowering faults.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Thank you. That is such grounded advice. And I feel like we can all start working with it now. And I guess we can shift. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

Yes, of course.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Thank you so much for your wisdom and your energy, your light. Your joy. I can feel you you're such a joyful being. Thank you so much. If there's one last thing you want to share, but I'm I'm aware of the time and I'm aware of Rob's energy, then we can also close. And I with a lot of gratitude. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Yes, of course. First of all, we share what Rob has already reiterated that when we co-create, we see those parts of your consciousness that we have never perceived previous to that moment. And in turn, reflectively we see those parts of our own consciousness yet to be perceived. You are growing, we are growing. We congratulate all of you for your growth, and of course we thank you for our growth as well. Remember, not only are you loved as was expressed as the most important aspect and ideology of this day, but also we love you as well, and we bid you ado for this day.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:33

Thank you deeply.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

Thank you too. Um I hope uh well, I hope you had fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

Absolutely. Feeling super inspired, and I love that nine times, and I can feel it. I can feel it in the energy. Say say the positive thing nine times, and it will completely shift that outdated program. So yes, thank you, and thank you for this time together. It's been really special.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

Well, thank you for having me on, and I always love meeting Neil's friends. Um, Neil is one of my longest friends in the community, and I I really appreciate and love that guy. And um, I really had a great time and and a great connection to you two. So thank you for having me on. And uh I don't remember what I channel, but um, just by hearing what you said, I'm sure you guys were talking about the 10-step process, which is great. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

Yeah, yeah. It's it's so good. And um, I just want to say everyone uh who's watching, you can go below and read the show notes and you can find out how to connect with Rob. And um, Rob, are you gonna be at the Glastonbury event um coming up end of August? And there's I mean, there's so many things that you're doing. You've also got the channel panel, so everyone can go and read and and uh connect with Rob in the way that feels resonant.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Yeah, I'll be in Glastonbury. And we just found out uh today that we're gonna be doing the channel panel on the weekend. I think it's 13, 14, 15 November. Uh it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday in November. Uh, we're gonna be doing it in Florida this this uh time. So we'll have that happening uh and more details will be out about that. But it it's great, and I I love that Neil is doing the event in Glass and Bury, it's gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

Brilliant. Thank you so much. Truly Namaste.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Thank you so much for having me on as well. It was a real pleasure getting to connect with you and getting to know you better.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

So, so wonderful. I love these expansions.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:58

Me too.