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Don’t worry about grammar &mistakes Just focus on expressions and your flow 


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SPEAKER_01

How are you?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I am uh as fresh as a flower, I would say.

SPEAKER_01

I envy you right now.

SPEAKER_00

And you know what? Why? Because I'm at my mom's place. No wonder. Yes.

unknown

Why?

SPEAKER_00

That's why. That's why. That is the reason. And you can see it's a messy background. I was trying to find a calm place because it's so noisy. Kids are there, everyone is busy.

SPEAKER_01

You know, everything is so lively and at the same time. So there's so much calm in the chaos here.

SPEAKER_00

Finally, I found this storeroom. Actually, it's a storeroom, and I'm trying to hide certain things.

SPEAKER_01

You know, the thing is that everybody can relate to it. And uh nowadays I think it is you become more comfortable when you see something which happens around you, so you find it more relatable. Relatable. So instead of seeing something spick and span and feeling like, oh my god, I can never match up to this. Actually, and then if you're looking at something as messy as you have it at your own place, exactly. I think that is one of the things that makes memes and reels also very famous. Very famous. People find it so relatable.

SPEAKER_00

Relatable. That's the thing. So yes, um, I I I was sitting here uh waiting for you. Then my niece just came and she uh was trying to find her legging. So I just told her if you can just find it and go away. Don't disturb me. I can't help you right now. So she was like, Okay, I'll do it on my own. So, yes, kids are playing there, I can see them, and uh you tell me how's life? You look so pretty today. Let me tell you first.

SPEAKER_01

I I think I'm looking a little better than what I looked in the past maybe seven or five or six days. I think we last spoke on Friday, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, Friday, Thursday, and I tried, yes, I tried to book your slot on Saturday, but I didn't get that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I got under the weather on uh Thursday night itself.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

And uh Friday onwards, I was in a bad shape. I was really in a bad shape, but today I feel a little better. So I was able to just like wash my hair days. I was completely and yesterday I uh I must have coughed throughout the session because there was so much irritation in my throat. But today I'm feeling so much better. So that is why when you said that you're as flesh fresh as a flower, I I envy you because you know how cold leaves this after effects when you still feel like your head is a little buzzy, yes, and you're not completely yourself.

SPEAKER_00

So I do have those symptoms even now, but better than I can definitely I can feel you because I was also under the weather, and I I can feel when you are not in your good frame of mind, but the thing is you have to show up for yourself, right? So I think every day I uh do the same thing, right? It just I I am I just want to tell you that uh now after the session, uh we will be leaving for uh my in lost place. So there you are going to see a different Neha. Yes, happy, but not this much alive, I would say, right? So yes, I'm going to I just want to uh soak in these moments. That's why, that's why I and you know what the cherry on the cake is I got session with you, so that's how yes.

SPEAKER_01

That's lovely. In fact, I was expecting your booking on uh Friday because I think you discussed or something with English Yari. Uh sorry, did you just uh say last week that it was your last session with English Yari?

SPEAKER_00

Uh my subscription was over for that month, so once only one session was left and it went uh I would say in uh way nor it went uh that way only. I uh I didn't book any session. I try to book your session, but uh I don't know how I missed the I missed the boat. So uh yesterday when I saw your slots, so without a second thought, I just booked. Otherwise, I generally I don't uh conduct any sessions or don't take any sessions when I am out.

SPEAKER_01

That gives you a lot of benefit because even when I go to my mom's place, I'm not very okay with uh you know taking sessions. There are very few of them that I take here and there, maybe half an hour, one hour or something. Because I know there'll be so much happening around me. Half of the time I remain distracted. Sure, okay. These people are in their room now, everybody is sleeping. I'll probably just take a couple of sessions. That is how it happened. Right. Okay, Neha. So let us uh talk about the topic for today, and uh something which is very close to my heart, and I'm sure it's close to your heart also. Everybody who has struggled, it is very close to my heart. It's the time, the importance of time. The only place where I am a little bit on the fence about this is where I don't understand the luck ends or the timing ends and hard work begins, or the hard work ends and the game of time begins. So that is one place I think where it puts you on a spot because you don't know whether to push harder or to finally just play at rest that okay fine, now I have done my hundred percent. Now, if it has to happen, it will happen. Right? So I want to know from you do you think that there are hints uh maybe from the universe, maybe from the powers around us, the vibes that we get, the vibrations in people? Do you think there are ways of finding out that okay, this is probably where we should stop and let destiny or fate or timing do its own job?

SPEAKER_00

I tell you, uh, yesterday only I uh got the very first payment from my YouTube channel. You know, yes, and I started my channel four years ago. Okay, of course, when I started, money was never in the frame, right? It was all about my learning, my growth, and my progress, right? But gradually, when you start doing something, of course, we start expecting something in return. And YouTube is all about your views, subscribers, and of course, that uh money also, right? So it took me four years, four long years to reach here. Uh, though I uh I was earning indirectly. Okay, I started earning the day I started my channel that very month, I would say. I I I have been uh making money or I have been earning uh through my classes, my sessions, and all. Uh, but yes, if I talk about YouTube, so I I put my heart and soul in my uh content, in my videos, right? And I always try to be, I try to uh give that credibility in terms of content, okay? And I am the way I am, I never pretend. Okay, but yes, uh, when you just put your heart and soul into something and you don't get anything in uh return, of course you feel demotivated, you feel like giving up. And exactly I did feel the same. There were uh there was time when I was like, okay, let's leave it. Uh it nothing is working, and why to you know, uh, why to waste my energy here? Uh, but yesterday when I got that token of um uh acknowledgement or maybe something like that. Okay, now the amount doesn't matter to me, to be very honest. Amount doesn't matter, but yes, that acknowledgement, or maybe something is there, it's ineffable to explain. Uh so yes, actually, time and destiny matter. They say hard work pays off sooner or later, definitely it pays off, but you need to trust the process. That's it.

SPEAKER_01

There is uh you will not get it when you are expecting it.

SPEAKER_00

Expecting to be patient, yes, you need to be more patient because um, again, I too I believe in destiny. I totally completely believe in destiny. My life experiences uh have let me um, I don't know why, but yes, they have taught me to believe in destiny or uh luck because you can't say that you are if someone is very hardworking, that person is going to be successful. It's not it's not the case, okay? You can be very hardworking, diligent, sincere, honest, conscientious, right? But it's not uh sure that you are going to get success uh the way you want. Okay, or when you want, when you want, yes, actually, when you want, right? But yes, if you keep showing up for yourself, if you don't quit, if you don't give up, your actions in in that shape of hard work and your intention, if both align properly, right? You walk uh for uh you work for something and your intention is correct, definitely your hard work is going to pay off. So, yes, time plays a crucial role.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it's it's like a combination of work which is needed. So not just do you have to show up and be consistent every day, yes, but you also have to trust in the time and the bigger powers which are at play through that. And um sometimes it becomes very difficult to lay your finger on uh a specific time or a place that you know what my life actually changed at this point or this was the turning point in my life when I realized that time or process or patience literally pays off. So if is it uh possible that a person will never be able to have that turning point in life? Do you believe that some people actually run out of luck even after years of hard work and turmoil and slogging themselves? They don't achieve something that they really care for at the end of the day. Do you think that it can be as poor destiny

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SPEAKER_01

as that?

SPEAKER_00

Um uh yes, there are chances. I mean, I can't say that it's impossible, but I believe uh uh you

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SPEAKER_00

need to play your cards wisely, right? Because I don't believe in putting all the eggs in one basket, correct, right? There should always be a second plan. If let's say uh let's take the example of those aspirants who want to crack UPSC or kind of examinations, okay? So if you are not able to crack these exams, don't just think that life ends, right? So just try something. Maybe you are uh maybe uh your destiny doesn't want to go or choose this line. You know, your destiny has a different plan. Actually, life gives you uh option every morning when we wake up, every morning is a new uh option or opportunity, is that it? So if one thing is not working for you, don't just uh you know uh wait for that uh yoreca moment or triggering point, any any uh thing, right? Change your plan.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

There should be a plan B. See, I always wanted to become a teacher, okay. That now your fingers are moving. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't mean no, I just moved places where I can help you.

SPEAKER_00

Uh thank you, Sam. I know. I just I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So, yes, see, I always wanted to become a teacher, okay, a government teacher or a school teacher, right? So, see, I am teaching now, but in a different scenario. Okay, I teach online, I conduct sessions, and uh simultaneously I'm learning also, I'm upskilling myself, okay. So just imagine I I was maybe I was smart enough to get that uh uh that vibes from universe that okay, you will become a teacher, but in a different scenario. So I didn't give up, okay. I'm not able to crack an exam, or I am not a government teacher or a school teacher. Okay, I I don't believe in cribing and I don't believe in blaming situations or circumstances or people. I believe in doing something. So I kept on moving, I kept on growing, and when uh during COVID, okay, uh, when we were perplexed, what to do, then I started my online uh career and see I'm growing uh beautifully and I'm happy and content with whatever I'm doing, right?

SPEAKER_01

That is what matters the most.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, so you need to be um wise or mindful, okay. Don't just chase one thing if it is not working for you, just shift your plan. Divert your attention and try to do something else. Maybe that is that can be your uh niche or photos, whatever, right?

SPEAKER_01

So and you know, uh it is it might be a little change in the direction that we are going, but uh most of the times when I see women uh who are trying to conceive I I find they completely lose themselves. They completely lose track, they lose uh uh you know a goal, and they have just a one-track mind. And I actually the thing is I have seen it happen so closely with some really close family members and with some close friends where they have not been able to conceive and how they cross all uh boundaries, and be it physically, like it's not something that is just affecting them mentally or psychologically, they make themselves go through I don't know how many cycles of IVF, and it becomes it just it goes on and on and on. And somehow I feel that why is it so difficult to accept that maybe destiny has some other plans to or maybe there is another way, or maybe you know what it is actually the destiny of some other child, not your own, but you have to go ahead and uh just bring up this child as your own. Okay, so it's not just about career or about earning or about uh reaching a certain point in your professional heights or something, but I think this is also in terms of what we do, what we expect as humans in our lives.

SPEAKER_00

It's something the point you picked up here, it's uh it has a deep uh emotion or deep cause to understand. See, as a woman, uh though we are living in the 21st century, okay. We say now we are um uh if we talk about women empowerment and feminism, there's a long way to go. Okay, time uh is changing, it has started changing, but when it comes to conceiving, right? The thing is, uh, we take the whole responsibility. If we are not able to conceive, we are the guilty. Okay, we are the guilty. Yes, and the irony is there is always a woman behind it to make us feel the same, okay. Maybe our own mother, mother-in-law, uh aunts, boa, chat is anyone, okay. Go to uh those babas if doc if medicine is not or medical, uh is uh you know, medical things are not working for you. So yes, we we we try each and everything, but the thing is it's difficult when you belong to a middle class family or maybe a high family, high class family, right? But as a woman, uh we are still we we still we are still vulnerable, right? And we have to look up to other people uh for anything, and conceiving is something that is wholly solely we uh uh we are responsible for that. Okay, so may maybe many women uh they take this kind of decision, okay. Let's if I'm not able to conceive, let's adopt a baby, but uh it's not easy, Rashi. It's not easy if uh if I just imagine if I uh put myself in some uh someone else's shoe, I mean a kind of woman who's not able to conceive. So it would be a difficult decision for me also to convince my family members uh for uh you know going for adoption and all. It's actually easier said than done. Uh we are helpless. Maybe when we feel that we are helpless, now there is no option, let's go and adopt a baby. Then it then this picture comes in um reality or kind of, but yes, it's difficult. In that case, uh, it is a bit challenging situation. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01

My my uh perception does not end at adoption, or I when I speak about this, I just feel that there is this entire problem which has been blown out of proportion, and there has been definitions, there have been definitions of phases in a woman's life that are bound by the age. By this time you should do this, by this time you should have. I think I have more problem with that because uh it has been made like an obvious step that now you're married, now you're supposed to have a child.

SPEAKER_00

Child, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

So I think I have a bigger problem with that. A woman may or may not choose to consider if it is her own decision and she makes herself go through all those medical traumas, I think that's her choice, and we are nobody to comment. Right. Your sister-in-law has had it, your co-sister has had it, and by this time we had four kids. So I think that pressure which is built up by the society is a bigger issue, and nobody understands when a woman just normally says that you know what, I don't think this is something that I might be able to do, or this is something that I feel I am good as a role model to do, right? So, not giving that choice is the bigger problem for me.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, it is. And uh, you are talking about conceiving and all this thing. You know what? Uh, we are not able to choose our careers. We are not able, we are not allowed to choose our careers, we are not allowed to choose sometimes what we want to wear, like how do we want to live our life, okay? Live our lives, even uh let's say it's a normal day, okay. Uh you are now it's not typically about in-laws, but I'm telling you the uh average mentality of people as a daughter-in-law, you are um supposed to entertain all the guests or people around you if you feel like okay, if you feel like taking a nap, okay. So it's a big deal if you go to your room after doing your chores. If you go to your room, you sit quietly, or you just take a nap, or you just don't sit with other people, they will question you. Absolutely, they will question you.

SPEAKER_01

They will mind.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, they will mind and they will question you. Oh my god, she's so rude, she doesn't uh mingle uh with us, right? Kind of stuff. So um we have our own lives, right? We have we do have mood swings. Sometimes it's not uh easy just to pretend, okay? So, but we have to, we have to, and this is the bitter reality of society, of our families, actually. I'm not talking about villages only, it happens with everyone. It happened with everyone, okay. Once you are a daughter-in-law, I guess you have to carry a kind of baggage, right?

SPEAKER_01

When you said that you do something which uh probably you want to do at that point, so even if you take the plunge, even if you dare to do that, then the hostility which will be targeted at you once you are amongst them again. I think that itself is so scary that half of the women give up the thought immediately that okay, I probably have done it once, I'm not going to do it again. Do that, that is the problem. And how it has been made like this entirely your sole motive to be a woman that you are supposed to bring life on this earth, it is magical experience. Like, why wouldn't you let the woman decide that for herself? No, no, no. I think that is where I tend to just feel a little like I'm not a part of uh, yes, yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And sometimes we need to um be in our shelves because you can't discuss these things or you can't make people understand.

unknown

Oh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00

You can't. Are you ready to be the antagonist? You want to be the whamp of everybody, then go ahead. Otherwise, be quiet. Keep quiet, that is it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, neha. So what I was typing, you'll be nothing, nothing much, but uh you know, just uh a few words that came to my mind when you were discussing like when you said uh one thing does not work, so you've got to look for the other thing.

SPEAKER_00

So that's more like sliding doors, sliding doors, lovely, yes, sliding doors.

SPEAKER_01

Like maybe this is not working. Let me check out the other. So you have to slide some doors, lovely. Right. Uh another place where you said that uh the feeling is so strong that you can feel it deep within that visceral feeling, so it is so strong that you don't even feel you just feel it in your mind, you almost feel it physically, a palpable thing, so it's visceral, visceral okay, a visceral feeling. And one place where you use the word guilty, the woman feels that she is the one who is guilty. So I think guilty will not be correct. Responsible, you said it later. Okay, okay. Responsible will be the right word. I feel she's the only one responsible to make it happen.

SPEAKER_00

Responsible. It is her duty to make it happen.

SPEAKER_01

Right? So those words, that's it. And uh the pronunciation of where, okay, we'll not keep it as where, we'll keep it as well.

SPEAKER_00

Where? Where got it. Where okay, okay. Now I'll book my session next week only. Uh so yes. Okay, then take care. Bye bye.