SPEAKER_00 0:00

Alright. All right. I got a new Apple computer who is not a sponsor and uh it freezes all the time. I don't know. I missed my PC.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Uh I'm grateful for the opportunity to pause for a second so I could just accept a blockbuster trade from our newest league mate, PC North. That's two trades in one pod. Big things happen.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

I thought when I saw a trade accepted, I thought it was the trade you and I made. Oh, you did accept both. Holy moly.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

There's more. But wait. We're doing big things on the pod here, man. DL3 is getting rocked. Oh shit. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

Sorry. That's what PC North was texting me about. I was like, yeah, I will take them. I'm on a pot, I'm on a pod with Will. Give me a second. And this trade happens. God damn it, PC North. He thought you meant Will A.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

And he I just looked when when the computer crashed, I looked at my text messages and I checked the uh the league app, and there was this thing, and he's like, Oh, I was just talking to Kyle, but Kyle said he was talking to a Will on the pod. He said he figured he was talking to Will A. Where were you offering him?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

I didn't have a chance, man. I was working right up until the pod.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Oh, sorry, sorry, brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

All right. Well, PC North is already on my shit list. Welcome to leave.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

If it makes you feel any better, at least you're not the proud new owner of Justin Jefferson at 30 bucks for the next two years with uh you know Kyler Murray tossing it to him.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

I think that can work out better than you think.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Well, hey, he's available for trade if you're interested.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Throw him in the other trade we did.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yeah, let's go. All right, so that kind of everything I just said about uh about going for it this year, I think I just underlined. Because I now have Jefferson and uh Jamar Chase. I got Burrow to Chase for the stack and uh and man, I got too many Bengals though. Christ. I also have Chase Brown. Um I like him. Let's see. All right, we'll just we'll just have to see.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

We're at the end of the running back list. Uh we're not at least my uh computer blacked out. Jacobs, Walker, Williams. Yeah. Anyone think for you there?

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Nah. Um I mean, but you know, catch me again in a couple weeks when one of them winds up on my team. I'm a little bit broker than I was uh before your computer crash, so maybe uh maybe I'll get lucky and get one of those guys on my team. Uh all right.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

QB Josh Allen Lamar Hurts.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

I would love I would love to get Josh Allen on the squad for obvious reasons, and he was on uh uh Robbie Gold as draftable uh for many years and did great things over there, but he's gonna be too rich for my blood. Yeah. I I think I'm probably looking at bargain basement. I mean, hey, Kyler Murray, all of a sudden, you know, that's a more interesting idea for me. Yeah, I don't want hurts. Sure, what the hell? Give me Stafford. Uh I like I like Matt Stafford for one more year. I think that team is looking at doing something big this year. I'm a I'm a Rams believer, so I could see that happening for sure.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Um the other like top of the pile, Darnell, Young, Jones. You think you think those are gonna go for money, or you think people are out on those folks?

SPEAKER_01 3:17

I think it's I think it's pretty uh I think it's pretty bare bones. I mean, again, I walked from Darnold, so I'm not unbiased here, but you know, at the right price you can do that. I one name that we just jumped over, which is my fault, is uh is Hertz. I I I read the Philadelphia Inquirer every day here uh over dinner because we get the the dead tree version on my driveway. Nice and knives are out for Hertz here.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Oh, so you think it could be a tough year?

SPEAKER_01 3:48

I think this kind of could be make or break. I'm I'm very curious about league opinions, both DL3 league and National Football League opinions of uh of Mr. Hertz.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

We didn't touch on the more much either. Like, is he did we did we pass his peak? Is he because I mean he has a great arm, but that's also part of athleticism. But like, is is he just a little crazy, a little hurt, and a little on the downside?

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Well, we'll see. He is under uh new leadership over there, and maybe that's a breath of fresh air for him. I think Lamar is just an extraordinary player. I've I've loved Lamar since he got in the league, and you know, my Buffalo Bills have got the best of him in a couple big games, but I respect the hell out of what he can do with the ball in his hands. And if he's on a mission, and if that uh new voice in his ear can can take hold, if that really works, maybe we see something new from him. I'd I'd think that whole division is fascinating. So I I'm you're not gonna catch me on a recorded podcast saying I don't believe in Lamar. You know, if if he if I could pair him with Joe Burrow in my old Garfield's quarterback stable, I'd be thrilled. But I think he'll probably be too rich for my blood.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Yeah. I've had him on multiple f teams and leagues, including this one. Um, I appreciate that a lot of him. But uh that last year he was a little banged up. I just wonder if it's it's the same thing with the receivers who just are crazy. It's and like Tim Lindsacum, I always thought was just too athletic. And once the athleticism died, um it's really tough to be super athletic for a long, long time. Um that's right.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, that's right. I mean, I I have those worries with uh with 17 in Buffalo, you know. Um what happens? But Lamar, he he's he's crafty, he can sling it. Uh we'll we'll see what happens to him.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Yeah, he's he's a great like actual quarterback. I just fantasy-wise, I wonder if you start to see a little bit of loss in value there.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Um yeah, I'd be happy to have him if I was a Ravens.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

But again, Kyle, another stacked position group. I mean, you've got superstars just out there. Yeah, this this league is gonna be very interesting this year.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

It's funny, these are all the same lists as last year. When the when when they go for the free agent auction, no one really wants to hand them a contract at top dollar, and they end up back in the pile going for top dollar.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

So you know what? That's a good point. That is one thing. This being my first dynasty league, which I'm I'm still admittedly struggling to to navigate. The feeling in the dynasty league of of putting down a lot of money, you know, putting down a quarter of your budget or whatever it costs to get uh Josh Allen under contract or something like that, it's a it's a serious feeling. I mean, I I love it again, the weight of the decision. I love the ramifications, I love the ripples through the years. I like I love the fact that I've been cheering for Amon Ross St. Brown for six years. That's awesome. His whole career. But it does make you, I think, perhaps maybe overcompensatory in terms of willingness to really commit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

All right. Uh last category, I didn't do tight ends, so uh that's fine. Uh wide receivers. Wide receivers is pretty thin. There's a couple big ones at the top, AJ Brown and Nico Collins, both coming off weird seasons, but have been productive.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Is that Devonta Smith? Is Devonta Smith down there? Is that UIC?

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Yeah. Did you do you want to include him in the same category as them?

SPEAKER_01 7:30

No, I think I think you got uh I think well, Lee Tycoon has got this stacked up right. AJ Brown. I I guess I'm a um I have to be a Drake May believer. Um, we'll see what happens over there.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

I think that could be like Randy, obviously, not the Randy Moss season where he broke all the records, but like that that's the type of vibes, disinterested on his current team, gets traded to a team that wants to feature him and showcase his talents. Uh that's right.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

And are a little bit more creative that capital T, capital M, the man on that team with a young quarterback that he's gonna be able to look in the eyes and be like, listen, throw me, throw me the ball. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Nico Collins, I'm a little anxious about. I I won't be the top bidder on Nico with the injuries. I've had him for a few years, but those injuries and the CJ and the on the line uh makes me nervous.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

I'm just kind of out on the Texans offense in general. I mean, like you say, CJ Stroud leaves a lot to be desired. I I know that they've been making moves down there and they've got their offensive line where they think they want it now, but uh you're gonna have to show me something. And Nico Collins, when he's on, he's on. But as you say, he's been banged up. You don't want him going down in week three, and then you don't see him again to week 10. That's that's the season.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Yeah. They have Zay Flowers third, um, which it's a thin group, but I was doing a little research. I didn't realize Zay Flowers had like 1,200 yards and a handful of touchdowns.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Sneaky, sneaky uh season over there.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Yeah, that was a total blind spot for me.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Yeah, bigger production than I think it felt like on that team. And again, he's put him on the same uh list as Lamar. You know, maybe if if Baltimore breaks right, uh the upside could be huge.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

All right. Higgins, bangles always confuse me. You're stacked with bangles.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

I'm now heavy on the bangles. The old Garfield's got the orange and black going. I I don't know, man. I I love T. Higgins. I've again, sorry to people on listening are gonna get sick of me saying it, but I would have loved to see him be a Bill uh when he would before he he got that deal. You know, I I love T. Higgins, but um You're not gonna be bidding on him. I'm not okay. Can't go, I can't go all Bengals.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

All right, Devontae Smith, does he does he rack up yards with AJ Brown out?

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Or yeah, I think I think he does. You know, I think he's the guy now. He's always he's been a funny player to watch. I drafted him um coming out of school, so he was a longtime Garfield, and he's he's uh he's he's built in such a kind of a stick figure type of way. Like he always looks like he's about to get broken. Um and they got I think they with they got Mikhail Lemon over there now, too. So, you know, we'll we'll see what it looks like. I don't really see him as a true number one, so I don't that's not what I would expect from him. But um, you know, it when he he's he's good for a couple big games throughout the year, but I I wouldn't be uh wouldn't be slotting him at the top of the list.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah. Alec Pierce feels like the Colts tagged him as their savior after the um trade of what's his name to the Steelers is the one on the list. I am not Taylor, I'll entertain, but I'm not gonna be touching Colts. But what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 10:57

I like your read on the Colts from earlier, thinking about Jay Taylor. I I just don't I don't any team that loses eight in a row up there. Uh and also just while we're on the Colts, man, one of the corniest team mottos ever for the shoe. I can't I can't deal with it. I can't deal with it. I I mean maybe Alec Pierce would be fine, but I'm you know, give me give me him for two dollars, you know, in some late round or late late auction deal.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

I don't know 800 yards and a thousand yards last two seasons. So like maybe a couple bucks, but I'm not I'm not reaching for him.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

As a First Amendment attorney, I'm over here slandering the man, libel and defamation, but I've yeah, I'm not I'm not that interested.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

All right. I try not to ask what people do, but I'm glad you're not a professional gambler or professional football player.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

No, it no, although um those wins, those those wins a couple, well, many years ago now in DL3 um did finance uh the purchase of uh of an MPC uh drum machine, which I'm still very grateful for.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

I didn't see that in the background as well with your build stuff.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Hell yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Um you'll have to upload some of your SoundCloud to the uh to the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

No, I 100% will. Let me let me brag about that. Let me um let me upload. In 2005, uh a mixtape me and my old DJ partner put together was included on Spin Magazine's list of the top 40 albums of the year. And I will put a put a link up in it here.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Oh, nice, yeah. All right, we'll crank through the bottom of this kind of garbage bag. DJ Moore, new place, your place?

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Sure. Give me give me DJ Moore for six bucks. I'll I'll take a spin on that. That's that's the the Ricky Pearsall money I'm saving. Let me let me spend that on DJ Moore. Someone's got to catch passes. He's gonna go for 18. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Ah, Christ, you're probably right. Watson and Green Bay. It seems like the rooms opened up a little bit, but I don't know. I have love. I'm I don't Green Bay sucks.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

I feel like uh those wideouts all eat off each other, you know. Um, and it's hard. They got uh golden now too, right? It's tough. It's tough for me. Uh one name we didn't talk about is uh Evans on the on the Niners. What about that?

SPEAKER_00 13:18

I think we could be in for a good season. Uh he's I mean he was hurt last year, and all my friends were like, oh, he's always hurt. And I was I did a lot of research on this because I'm a Niners fan. It's like he's played almost all the games every year. That's right. So is it a one-year anomaly or is it a uh is it the start of the decline? I don't know. I'm hoping one-year anomaly. And he's also like we were talking about athleticism. It feels like I didn't watch a lot of Bucks games, but just he's got a lot of coverage. It feels like he's just shifty like the Devontae Adams. He knows how to get open, he knows where the high point of the football is. He's tall, he's strong.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Yeah, he's built. That's the big difference between him and Smith, because I agree, their games are otherwise similar. But if I close my eyes, I can picture uh Evans going up and getting the ball and coming down with it. And just it's like uh like a striker in the World Cup, man. The guy's like uh Holland up there. He he just goes up and high points the ball and comes down with it. It's an amazing thing.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Yeah, so I I am big on it. I don't think I'm gonna invest a lot uh when that auction comes up, but uh as a fan I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

There's a bunch of it's you, Jamie. There's there's other Niners fans too, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch of. So maybe we'll get a DL3 Niners fan premium for uh for the future Hall of Famer in Evans.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Well, it's all Bills fans and Niners fans, I feel like. I gotta maybe we'll do a poll. Um who else we got?

SPEAKER_01 14:52

We got Addison.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yeah. You're not gonna bid on it. You've talked about you're already stacked on Bengals. You don't want to bid on another now that you have uh Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yeah, no, I'm good on that.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Uh Dobbs. But do you I think I think his value could be good with uh the little man over there. Yeah, could be.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

You know, that's that's right. He's gonna he's gonna throw the ball. I don't know. Maybe maybe this will be a Kyler Murray comeback story. Yeah. Um but Bob in New England.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

We said we like the AJ Brown thing. Do you think Dobbs drafts on that at all?

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Or yeah, I think I think um some again, someone's gonna be catching catching those passes. Um and AJ Brown is gonna be getting a lot of attention. You know, one thing that just hurts about that trade I just made with our guy PC North is losing uh Trevion Henderson because I think he's gonna eat this year. And uh that was that was a bit of a pain point with that with that trade. He could be a PC North stalwart for the next many years. Um but that's what what I had to do to to make this uh this big blockbuster get Chase and uh and Jefferson on my team. But I I say that because I think that AJ Brown up top, Trayvion Henderson keeping people honest, Drake May can move too. You know, Drake May throws an accurate ball. Guy like Dobbs, it could work. You can see what it would look like.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah. And then Jamison Williams, you obviously let him go. I assume you're not gonna be in on that, but he is gonna, you know, he's one of those guys where everyone's like, he's so fast, and then he goes a little bit probably higher than he should just because he's super athletic. Didn't he just sign a new deal? I think it was him. Uh I thought it was at the beginning of last year.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Maybe it's beginning of last year. Yeah, I uh I like Jameson Williams a lot. And my son was asking me if if JSN would be available, and I said, no, no, son, he's not. It's too bad.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Yeah. I don't know who has him.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Some lucky bastard in the league. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

Um yeah, it's a high. Whoever has them, I'm trying to look it up.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Really? Well, I guess, I mean, being a yeah, being an Irish fan, I guess you might. I try to keep, I mean, it contrary to what it sounds like what I'm putting down in this recording, I try to keep uh the Bills fandom a little bit separate from the cold-eyed evaluations you need to make as a DL3 owner, but but sometimes it's it's not so easy.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Yeah, I mean it was just like such a crazy year. And he wasn't supposed to be that good. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Well, we we are gonna learn some things this year. I can't wait. I am grateful to you, Kyle, for bearing with me as I kind of recalibrate to football. I was just telling the kids after I bought this mic on the drive back home, I was like, you know what? I haven't thought about football in a in a little bit. So this is this is gonna be fun. And I'm it was fun. So thank you very much.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Yeah. Uh we'll end it there. Do you want to any shout outs? Anything you want to call out uh for the league?

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Shout out to you, man. Shout out to everybody in the league for for being such uh uh awesome competitors and can't wait to get this auction going. Let's do this again. I've I've been delinquent and I'm I want to remedy this. I was thinking we could even have um folks call in at some point. And I'll I'll look forward to hearing the reaction to this one, the big trades, and uh yeah, can't wait to get the thing started. Were those the first two trades of the year? Oh, did we just kick it off? We might have. We might have.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Live on the pod, live reactions. Hope the fans enjoyed it. All right. We're gonna kick it off. Uh, Paps, blue ribbon, beer. Thank you for uh your future payment. Cheers to that. I'm gonna hang uh I'm gonna stop the recording and I'll say bye. Thanks, folks.