SPEAKER_00 0:03

Welcome to the No Rush Collective Podcast. We're talking all things health, fitness, and finding what health means on your own timeline with no rush. And I'm joined by the amazing Brittany Lucas, who is just here to chat and have some fun. Now, my question: if you were to rank your favorite bean, oh my gosh. What would you legume? What would your favorite legume be? My favorite ligume. You can do it. Legume. Green bean. Why? Because it's yum and it's versatile. And I'm not a really big fan of like other beans, usually. I like kidney beans. I like black beans. But you wouldn't rank them number one, you'd get rid of them. What? If I have to lose all other beans. Because I have an answer. I'm set in stone. I know you do. I'm surprised you don't have it in your notes app on your phone. It's in here. It's in my brain, baby. You don't need the notes app. Um, okay. I still am going with green bean. Final answer. Lock it in. Okay. Mine would be soybean. Mm-hmm. Why? You can make milk out of it, you can make tofu out of it. I don't want either of those. Soybeans eat amame beans. No, but you have to think about people that need the protein. You know? I'm just thinking of others. Yeah. Anyway, welcome to our podcast. Um, now listen, we were gonna start off podcast episode with uh something that was more on brand, but it would be incorrect of us to have a podcast about health and fitness and nutrition without talking about the current NZ Muscle current events, yeah, controversy that's out there at the moment. Um, quick opinions, Britt. What do you reckon? Um my opinion is that regardless of what investigations find, I think NZ Muscle has lost the trust of their customers. And I think that that sums up the whole controversy. Yeah.

unknown 2:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

So if you haven't heard about it, it's basically a couple of YouTubers who they used to work for NZ Musle, um, like athlete-wise or something. One of them, one of them worked for NZ Muscle. One of them owns a supplement company. Yeah, that's Cam Boot. Yeah. Yeah. But I think only one of them used to work for NZ Musle, but then they were talking to other people who used to work for NZ Mussel. Yeah. And they've basically made a podcast and exposed it, which I I guess that's kind of what we're doing right now as well. Jumping on the bandwagon. Yeah, no. Um, and I think in my practice with being a nutritionist, I had so many people coming to me and asking me questions about like what my opinion is on this. And I kept it quiet specifically for this episode because I don't know, I think it's kind of a hot topic. And I'm I just don't understand why people are surprised. Yeah. I don't understand why this is an issue that people are can't believe that's happened when the supplement industry is so unregulated and it like it is like that quite often. I don't think people realize the scale of like contamination um and like everyday supplements. Yes. Because there's all these influences online that are just selling left, right, and center different supplements, pills, powders, telling you it does XYZ, but they don't actually know anything about what's in the product itself. So why would you use their affiliate code and trust them? Yeah, people listen to their opinions over and take it as gospel as anything else. Exactly. Because if you have a six-pack of abs, you should take the same protein powder that man's taken. Yeah. But it's actually like contaminated and made in Mexico when it says made in New Zealand. Exactly. And it's nearly expired. Yeah. Anyway, um 2002, 2022, not 2002, um, they picked 200 sport supplements off the shelves at this was consumer New Zealand. Um, just right. Off actual shelves? Yes. Or I don't know, off websites. No, yeah. It's equivalent to a shelf. But like they actually bought it, it wasn't gifted to them. 200. They just randomly did 200. Um, and they tested all of them for prohibited substances that could produce a positive drug test. And when you're being, you know, tested for sports XYZ. Um I'm not a sportsman myself. Like narcotics. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, who knows? Anyway, six of them. Six of them had a positive drug test. And they were just everyday things. And this was me in 2022 going through these results. You know, just reading it like, oh, I'm not surprised because I have to make sure that whenever someone's taking a supplement that I've recommended them, that it's third-party batch tested and it has all this um background like trust to the product and the brand itself. Um, and then if you scroll down, one of the six is the NZ Muscle pre-workout. And like all the rest of the brands were just common everyday, well, not common everyday, but like like well-known. Kind of like uh bodybuilder, fat burner type brands. And I believe this one was their Savage Pre-workout, was one of the six supplements available on New Zealand shelves that had a positive drug test. And when I read the Consumer New Zealand website, they went to Dion, who's the guy, the I guess the main honcho, he'd honcho behind NZ muscle. And they were like, Have you heard about this rah-rah? And he said something about there not being enough research and evidence to prove that it's something bad. So he just kept it on the shelves. Whereas everyone else, when they were approached after that, they would take it off the shelf. Yeah, well, like why would you bother risking it if you've got an athlete who's taking that product and then like yeah. Imagine being an athlete, getting yourself all the way up to a competition, and then you get positive drug tests and you've got no idea. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, the blame's always on the athlete. Like, as an individual athlete, it's your responsibility and for what you put into your body. If you produce a positive drug test, that's on you.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

But me as a nutritionist, if I've told the athlete, go take this pre-workout that that I haven't checked, that's not third-party batch tested. Yeah. And then they get a positive drug test, it's on them and on me. Like that's almost like a loss of job. Like that's but also you'd just feel guilty. Like that just sucks. You'd feel horrific. You would. Yeah. Yeah. Because I actually care about these things. Um let's talk about the actual people that went into this breakdown of the supplement. Because I think there's a little bit of bias in this. You agree? Well, there's bias in everything. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's bias in this too. There's bias in this podcast because it's mine. It is impossible to get rid of bias. No. But um, yeah, potentially. There is bias that maybe um could be recognized. I just feel like he's the the guy who's exposed, one of the main guys who's exposed it is also the owner of a supplement business. And I can see why he's annoyed at another business that's like um kind of like ruining the good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also like, is that therefore going to be your way to further market your product? Because the whole podcast there was the ugly face in the background, like his logo. Oh, was there? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I didn't even see that. Yeah. Yeah. To be fair though, like that, like to say it, I guess, from his perspective, yeah, okay, maybe there is that advantage, that benefit. But also, um, kind of like what you said, you know, it's an industry that he's working in, he probably wants it to be very credible, hopefully. Yeah. And also, why would you expose another company if you're doing things wrong? So in a way, I guess I would hope. Like you imagine 10 years down the track, it finds out that all of these things that he exposed NC Marcel for, he's actually been doing the same thing. You imagine that'd be hilarious. Yeah. So I mean, it probably is a little bit of advertising in a way, um, but like at the same time, smart advertising, to be holding it. Smart advertising, because it, in my opinion, and I could be wrong, in my opinion, it makes his brand more credible. Because yeah, I guess for those same reasons that I just said, like he must have his ducks in a row in order to put out such a big, you know, big podcast. Um and yeah. I don't know. Do you agree? Kind of, I just find it really interesting. I think now that it's been exposed at a well-known brand on a New Zealand shelf, which I think Kiwis got kind of complacent, and we're like, oh, if it says made in New Zealand, it's definitely made in New Zealand and oh, I can trust these people because rah-rah. Um, I think he's like supplement companies, not just his, but everything else, can now market and get into the fact that, oh, we're trustworthy. Like come in, buy our stuff because here's what we do. And I did see actually explosive, I think. Um, if you bring in your NZ muscle creatine, they will give you it open, unopen, whatever, they don't care. You bring it in, they'll give you one of their own creatine as well. Oh, really? Yeah. Explosive supplements. Yeah. Yeah. Well, some of their products were also on the 2022 positive drug tests. But that's the thing, you just don't know anything. Yeah. You literally don't know. And when you have people that are qualified and registered to give advice, me, on nutrition. Not me. I'm not a nutritionist. George is a nutritionist. Britt's here for ad libs in a good time. You can come to me for nutrition advice, and that nutrition advice would be I've got a great friend. And this is why we keep Brit on board. Um, Britt's the promo girl. I totally forgot what I was talking about. Um talking about explosives and then oh yeah. I I just think anything that builds trust is important. Um, but they're definitely gonna market in on this stuff at the moment. Yeah. Which is kind of scary because then I don't really trust any supplement company. Yeah. I mean, like there are a few that I've purchased from myself that I would use. Yeah. And if I've got a client that I know is being drug tested in their sport, that I would then pick that and contact the company and ask ask for the specific batch testing requirements and certificates. Um, but like food first. There's a reason we say food first. Well, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But I'm I'm exactly the same. I think it's important to be skeptical in general of what you're putting into your body. Um, obviously within reason. We don't want to create fear. Yeah. I think it's good to be skeptical, but skeptical as in reaching reaching out to the right people for the advice that you need. Because if you're just searching on like Instagram or TikTok or Google Chat GPT, yeah, those like AI chatbots, it's it's crap information, quite frankly. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of it's like what if you search something, you will get the fear-based stuff first because that's what creates the most clicks and the most likes and the most engagement. So of course, social media is gonna push that to you. But that's also can be the most harmful information. Yeah, exactly. I feel like knowing all the pros and cons to everything is important. Like taking a protein powder, cool. Why? What does it do? What good or bad does it do? Yeah. Rather than just because everyone's taking protein powder. Yeah. There's actually um a cool what's it called somewhere. Oh, a supplement decision tree, which is from the Sport Integrity Commission New Zealand. And they've got six different questions that they ask someone, well, that they, that me would ask a client um before you decide if you should take a supplement, and that can be like a protein powder, a creatine, or anything really. But I I tend to use it more for sports supplements, just because if I'm getting like a vitamin D prescription for someone, that's a little bit different. Um, but like number one is do you need to use a supplement? Yeah, exactly. I don't know how you feel about this. Electrolytes, for example. Yeah. I can go into like a full podcast episode on how much I hate electrolytes. But the thing is, I have an affiliate code with an electrolyte brand. Yeah, electrolytes definitely have their place. Yeah, 100%. If you've got diarrhea, electrolytes. That's the first thing that comes to your mind. If you've got diarrhea, you better use that. Yeah. If I'm going out for a two-hour-long bike ride, yeah, I'll have some electrolytes. Yeah. But if I'm working a desk job and doing a Pilates class, I'm probably shouldn't have electrolytes because pretty much every single New Zealander has too much sodium. If I just had like a really big salty pizza, probably don't need electrolytes. There's more sodium potassium in that pizza than there is electrolytes anyway. And it's like expensive water. Yeah, flavored water. Which you can get flavoring for your water, by the way, without electrolytes in it. Yeah. If you don't like water. Well, the economy, like, why would you purchase expensive electrolytes where you can get like a cheap water droplet? Yeah, like one of those little boop-boop boop. Yeah. That's a perfect description. Can you do that again into the microphone?

unknown 13:24

Bloop, bloop, bloop.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Perfect. Thanks. ASMR with no rush collective. So yeah, do you need to use a supplement? If it's electrolytes, probably not. But it depends on the person and what they're doing. Or question two, do you understand the risks of a supplement? And I'm gonna easily say 95% of people are going to say no to that question. Because any supplement that you take has potential to be contaminated. And not only contaminated with things that could produce a positive drug test, but also contaminated with whey. Yeah. And you're lactose intolerant. Yeah. You're taking creatine and there's whey in it. Or I'm taking an NZ muscle creatine because it says it only contains this, but they didn't wash their machine correctly, so now I've been contaminated with dairy. Which, by the way, I did see in the news yesterday that while it sounds like that's been confirmed, that they were not cleaning in between because they have obviously pulled the creatine and told you, like, do not consume it if you've got a dairy allergy. That's kind of dangerous though. People can die from that. Yeah, exactly. And I have no idea where it's come from. It's basic food manufacturing and which just kind of shocks me. I would feel bad. I would feel bad. Anyway, so straight away we've asked two questions. Do you need to use a supplement and do you understand the risks of a supplement? And we've automatically cut most supplements from the mix for most people. Um number three is will the supplement do what it says on the label? Which is really something that you need to ask a registered nutritionist or registered dietitian about because it depends on the person, depends on the supplement and the situation. But you know, most of the time, like, you know, greens powders. That's another one that really gets me fired up. When when people are like, oh, I take a greens powder because it's so good for my gut, just eat a vegetable. Yeah. They're green. Yeah, green beans. Yeah. Green but green beans. Can we eat some of Brit's top-ranked bean beans? Green. No greens powder needed. No, more beneficial than actually having the powder in the very beginning. But I see how everyone's like, oh, it's like a cute aesthetic uh green drink that I can have first thing in the morning that makes me feel good. Cool. But it's not gonna So is matcha. That's cute and aesthetic and green. Yeah. It's not gonna solve all your life problems. Not all of them. No, literally not. Um, could the supplement harm your health? Um, if you're allergic to dairy and you're having creatine from NZ muscle, yeah, it could. Yeah. Um supplements can harm your health. Yeah. I always think like if someone's got high blood pressure and we're actually monitoring their sodium intake and then they're taking electrolytes on a regular basis, that's probably gonna harm your health. Yeah, or if they eat a lot of pizzas. Just circling back to that. By the way, I I eat pizza. I'm just saying if you're having lots of salty pizza, maybe you don't eat electrolytes. We're also in no rush to eat that pizza. Um can you take steps to mitigate the risk of taking the supplement? For example, I want to take a protein powder, but I'm um an athlete competing in sport and I know I'm gonna get drug tested. Or I'm just I want to make sure that I'm not having anything contaminated in my supplement. Then can you make sure it's third-party batch tested with the informed sport logo on the front and check the batch number? Like literally search the batch number on the informed sport website, make sure it matches. Or get a registered nutritionist to do it for you. See, we're circling back to this whole thing. Everyone should just listen to me. Yeah. This is my podcast. Do as I say. Yeah. Or if not, Georgia, at least somebody who actually has the qualifications. Not just like a six-week online course type thing. Yeah. Um, number six is do you plan to still use the supplement? So we've gone through five questions, we've eliminated most supplements from the mix. So the answer is probably no. Maybe make sure you're eating your vegetables, make sure you've got your carbs and your protein sources from your food. But we tend to go supplement first these days. Which is kind of sad. Yeah. I think because um I don't know, and this kind of opens up a completely new topic as well, but like social media and um, I guess culture in a way. Um yeah, like everyone takes protein powder. And so if you go to the gym, you think you should be taking protein powder. Sort of thing. Yeah. I actually had a conversation with um one of my clients the other day talking about protein powder versus just chocolate milk. Honestly, chocolate milk elite. Yeah. When I was cycling, my dad used to say every single time, he was like, chocolate milk, we don't need to buy you protein powder, chocolate milk after your ride. No, literally. Yeah. And then when I met Georgia, when I met Georgia, I actually asked her. I was like, um, okay, so my dad used to say this thing, is it real? And Georgia was like, Yeah. So there you go, chocolate milk. If you've learned one thing from today, green beans and soybeans and chocolate milk. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I swear by chocolate milk. Because uh it feels like a little treat afterwards as well. Yeah. But even it's more accessible, right? Because if you're, I don't know, if you're a mum trying to and you've got kids that are coming into the gym like they're getting older, are you gonna say buy this expensive protein powder and make sure they have like X amount of scoops of this a day? Or are you gonna say give them a glass of milk and put some Milo in it? Mm-hmm. Yum. Yeah. It's not that deep. Honestly, also tastes better than protein powder. Protein's not meant to taste good. No. It tastes like protein. Yeah. So with everyone's saying creatine tastes good. I mean not really. It's like sand and water. Yum, I love sandy water. Yeah. But I think the idea is just we need to red flag everything. Everything supplement.

unknown 19:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Until proven otherwise.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yeah. Like a lot of the stuff we consume is actually incorrect. Yeah. Um, I can't remember the exact numbers, but like the majority of information that we see online about nutrition is wrong. Um, but knowing credible sources is really hard because a lot of it tends to get masked. Yeah. Like people who say more controversial, controversial things will be louder. Yeah, exactly. Whereas a someone who just puts a video on and says, eat your vegetables versus take this exciting new greens powder of mine. It's going to fix all your problems. Yeah. Look at my bloat and how it's gone down this much in the six weeks I've been having this every single morning. Exactly. All I had was this, and nothing else changed, and then I lost all of this weight, and now I look like this, and I used to look like that. Blah, blah, blah. Can that be the jingle? Sorry to that AV guy over there. He's smiling. He's definitely gonna love that. Um push gummies. Yeah. Yes. Do we even need to talk about that? Um that was James Smith talking about it, right? Who also has a podcast. There's a theme here. Contributing to that theme. So basically, don't listen to anyone other anyone else's podcast, just listen to Alf. First episode, and we think it's like people are gonna definitely not listen to these people instead. Yeah. But I exposing, good, information, good, empowerment, awesome. Fear, no. Yeah. Yeah. Questioning supplements. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's kind of it is just questioning it. Yeah. But just making sure that you're yeah, I guess that's what I meant like at the start when I said be critical. But I'm not saying like criticize everything, just like think critically. Yeah. Like don't trust one person's opinion on something. Or like one video. Like if we're going back to the electrolytes and how I love the flavor of daily electrolytes. Personally, that's just the best tasting one for me. But I don't have them every single day. And I only have them when I need them. But if I put it on my story of me drinking this electrolyte, the next minute I've got a million messages to be like, Oh my god, should I get these? How often should I be taking taking them? Like, I have electrolytes every single day. And it's like, no, yeah, don't do that. You don't need that. No. So I try to be really neutral with my messaging on it so I'm not like persuading people you should be doing this, you should be doing that. Like It's how you live your life and your own choices and have you gone through the supplement decision tree. Exactly. Exactly. It's and that's I guess like a completely other conversation as well. It's just like what works for one person doesn't work for you.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

What works for you works for you. So don't trust what one person sees online. Don't trust what we're saying. Be critical. Be critical. But you can trust us. We're not we're not lying to you. We also don't have a supplement company. No. So no. We're literally just here to yap right now and that's right. And also we're not trying to give you any specific advice either. We're just trying to make you think about your own like what works for you. Yeah. I think if you want specific advice, it should be something where you get a one-on-one, you have a chat. Like individually. Yeah. Yeah. And especially when there's hype around different things online. Creatine's the big hype at the moment. And like, does everyone need to be taking creatine? No, not really. Can there be like a more complex decision behind each person? Yeah. Yeah. Can you make sure you're buying from a brand that you know that you trust? Yeah. That uses only like the creatine funnel for the creatine and not the protein funnel for the creatine. I just want to say, since day one, if you're listening to this podcast, I'm looking directly in the camera now. Since day one, I have never recommended or purchased from NZ Muscle because I thought it was fishy. Gut feelings. And I was right. Hmm. Go you. Hype me up. That's what I've ever been in my life. Maybe my ego's too big. Um, yeah, we're not here to, I guess, crap on other businesses or no, or any individual business. No, or influences. I mean, we are going to talk about them quite a bit because I feel like they're quite relevant in today's health and fitness industry. And again, I don't think any individual influencer necessarily is a problem. No. I can't think of one person off the top of my head. Yeah, I thought of one, but it's irrelevant to what we're thinking of. Oh, that's gonna be a different podcast episode. Like Andrew Tate. Oh, yeah. But that I mean, that's like a whole movie in itself. Like we can't cover that in 20 minutes. We don't we don't need to talk about that right now. No. Um, but the supplement industry is huge, highly unregulated, despite the fact that we have all these rules and conditions. And we also like the high protein, high protein protein powder that NZ Musle was selling and how they had a cry about that. That's always been a thing though. Remember when that's marketing. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's the reason I was searching peanut butter before we came in, because I was like, oh my God, the high protein peanut butter that came out from Fix and Fog. Yeah. And everyone got like hyped about it. Oh, this high protein peanut butter, I need more protein in my life. Oh, I need games and all this kind of stuff. But it wasn't actually that much difference. But you can't be angry at the brand for marketing something well because that's increasing their sales. Incorrect. It's it's not lying. They're not saying like it contains X more protein than the average peanut butter. They're saying it is high protein because it's got more protein in it than what their regular one does. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Can we really be angry about that? Or do we just have to know how to read the label on foods? Yeah. And that's not just protein as well. That that's that's simply marketing. You know, see it in everything to do with your life. I quite often think about the um healthy food stars, you know, the one to five on the packets and how like the healthier something is, the higher of a ranking it has. But it's only relevant to like that food. It's not like all foods around the supermarket. So I have to talk to a lot of clients sometimes about like, oh, I'm deciding between like a packet of biscuits or this like um chip packet over here. And it's like actually, they're probably in different, different complete categories of that. So you can't actually compare apples and pears. That is a fun fact. I didn't know that. Yeah. So the healthy star, so if I get a five-star potato chip, it's only five stars compared to the two-star potato chip next to it. Yeah, compared to potato chips. Wow. But it's not compared to like an apple. No, not a completely different category of food. Interesting. Yeah. That's fun fact. Clever marketing, you have to get in on it. Yeah. If you're trying to sell a product, it's what you're trying to do. But you need to be able to read the label and what's actually in it. Yeah. And then trust what's actually in it too. I think that's the issue. Like the trust has been broken for a lot of people with New Zealand muscle, and they probably need to fix that. Yes. A-S-A-P. Yes. Exactly. Especially when they just opened a store in Dunedin. Yeah. That's a bit unfortunate for them. Um, and be red flagging things at the moment because there's going to be so many companies, businesses, and influencers online that are now going to launch into that. This supplement is trustworthy because they're going to be like this big brand fell out because they weren't doing the right thing. Yeah. So we're going to latch onto that. And yes, that is clever marketing. But I actually thought that the other day, I can't even remember what supplement company it was, but they posted on a TikTok or Instagram real or something. Um, and it was them packaging their supplement in a proper hygienic facility. And yeah, that actually crossed my mind. I was like, yeah, like great, this is awesome. In this shot, you're packaging it correctly. But I actually have no idea what's going on with the rest of the company. No. Yeah. And I'm not saying that that was like that they are doing anything wrong, but like, I don't know. It's a one image. Yeah. Yeah. And the the thing is because we see that one image online, we then go, oh, that's so trustworthy. That's so cool. Like I've emerged from them. But we still don't know what's going on behind closed doors. Exactly. You literally never know. Exactly. Again, think critically. Moral of the story, get supplement advice as it at an individualized level. Yeah. From registered nutritionists, not just a nutritionist. They're two different things. And a registered dietitian and or not an influencer online with a 12-pack of abs that has greens powders every morning. Yeah. You can take advice from that influencer to your registered professional. And then they can say, yeah, that's good advice or no, that's not good advice. But equally, if what you're doing isn't harmful to your health or harmful to the health of others, then Well, exactly. And I guess that's a conversation in itself. Is this greens powder harming me? Probably not. It's just not doing anything. It's probably harming my bank account, and that's about it. And there's too many things that harm my bank account these days. Like honestly, in this day and age. Yeah. A dollar is a dollar. Like save that and spend it on something that's actually more useful for your health, but you know? Yeah. Who are we to judge? Like an egg or chocolate milk. Yeah. Chocolate milk. Use your money to buy green beans, chocolate milk, and what was the other one we talked about? Mine was soybeans. Yeah, soybeans, green beans, chocolate milk. And I take it by green beans, you actually mean like the string green beans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually really like this. Is I yeah. This is a little niche. I really like the ones that you get from the freezer. Um, and they're already sliced. Okay. Like boiled, steamed No, um, in a stir fry. Specifically. Or with garlic butter. Mm-hmm. Anyway. And ingredients-wise on that packet. There's probably there'll be a five health star rating on that. Yeah, probably. It is just green beans. And I think you can probably trust McCain's to put green beans in a yeah. I personally have never checked the ingredients list on the back, but I hope it's just green beans. Or like preservatives or something, maybe. Yeah, no, but it's frozen, so it's fine. Yeah.

unknown 29:50

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Just how did we get back here? We're just looping the podcast all the way back around to the beginning now that we've covered the points basically. We're just gonna create circles. Yeah. Yeah, but that's the whole thing about nutritional fitness. It is just circles. It's constantly going around and around and around and questioning things all the time. And then relearning, like there'll be new research that comes out and makes us redevelop and relearn. And then you have to take back your words and not have an ego about it and be like, oh, cool, learn something. Good. Move on. That information that I passed on a year ago is now out of date. I'm sorry. Yeah, this podcast a year from now might not be relevant. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. That's how our science works, my dudes. Anyway, thanks so much for listening to our podcast for our first episode. Yeah. We hope you had fun hearing us yap about everything. About beans? Yeah. Like NZ muscle and beans. Just wait until the question that I ask you next time. We should just start every podcast out with a random question and just see what your answer is. Put you on the spot. Guess what I'm gonna do when I go home? What? A notes out. A note in my notes at of random questions for Georgia. Send requests through. Because I probably have all these questions. Yeah, actually. I feel like I'd come with like strict answers on that stuff. Yeah. I'll come up with one that you that stumps, yeah. Okay, great. Well, stay tuned for our next episode where Britt comes up with a question that stumps me. Thanks for listening. Bye. Oh, also shout out to Walsh and Beck for um sponsoring our podcast as well. They uh honestly, we could not do this without them. This whole setup would not be anything compared to what we've got right now if it wasn't for Walsh and Beck's. When I tell you that I came to Daniel and I was like, I want to do a podcast, and then he goes, Cool, let me run this back to Welsh and Beck. Yeah. And then they were like, we have a space, we have microphones, we have cameras. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. What they've done for us is amazing. So if you need any sort of creative anything, videos, design, anything along those lines, Walsh and Beck. Sponsored by Welsh and Beck. Yeah. Those kisses were for Walsh and Beck. Yeah, great. Perfect. Bet they'll love that. Yeah. Anyway, thanks again. Any closing notes for Georgia from Georgia? No, I think I've concluded it. I think I've just been like, yep, second guess everything that everyone's ever told you. Yeah. Yeah. Think critically. Yeah. Never trust anyone. Moral of the truth. Apart from me. Yeah. I'm always right.

unknown 32:30

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Bye. Bye.