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FLEX: Whole Tree Recovery
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What happens when ancient olive wisdom meets modern recovery?
In this episode of the Oliabo Studiō One Podcast, Gordon, Joe, and Ashley reveal the story behind Oliabo's FLEX, a topical recovery oil inspired by the powerful compounds found throughout the olive tree.
They explore the science and tradition behind high phenolic extra virgin olive oil, oleocanthal, olive leaf and fruit extracts, olive-derived squalane, mangosteen pericarp extract, frankincense, and the carefully selected ingredients inside FLEX.
From Ironman training and hockey injuries to stiff necks, sore hands, overworked muscles, and the everyday demands placed on the body, the conversation gets personal about building a recovery ritual that fits into real life.
FLEX is designed to be massaged onto overworked areas of the body to provide a lasting sense of comfort. It absorbs easily, has a clean and pleasant scent, and can be used after activity or as part of a nightly routine.
Listen to the full episode to discover how the olive tree, from leaf to fruit, inspired a different approach to topical recovery.
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SPEAKER_03Well, hello everyone. Um Gizep, my brother. I will apologize in advance to everybody that our podcast intro has the ability to get stuck in your head. Welcome to the club, Joe. You will be thinking about our Oliabo intro to our podcast while you're in the shower, while you're driving your car, while you are trying to uh bake bread, whatever you do with your free time golf. Um yeah. The new guy. We should haze him or something like that.
SPEAKER_06I think we did with the Oleabo song.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, love it. There you go. Uh Ashley and I have an initiation. It's pretty brutal. Um, yeah, you need to fetch uh drinks for us and things, and Trello as well. So done. Anyway, welcome everyone to the Oleabo Studio One. Are we calling it that now? Trello, did we get yeah, okay, Studio One podcast. And uh we we've expanded to a third today. Um actually, I'm not sure what the standard setup will be going forward. This is just us doing this in an average week these days. Ashley and I have done the first two together. And we pointed out you're the only one that actually has a podcast, and you have yet to do until today a podcast. So welcome. Joe. Grazie. Prego, prego. A little Italian. Yes, Sono Felice De Sari con tutti voi sta sera, uhomeriggio. Um so uh we, for those of you who are new to our podcast, we uh at Oleabo are pretty passionate about olives and olive-derived products, olive oil, olive leaf, things like that. And um we today are gonna talk about a topical product. Um, but first we start with a little bit of maybe knowledge for folks about uh olive and olive oil. And okay, Joe and I had an Italian mom. She her entire skincare routine growing up was um olive oil for many years. I remember the big moment that mom had where she went and she had an Avon lady teach her about the, I don't know, the modern ways of makeup and things like that. But that was her like sunblock, that was everything, huh?
SPEAKER_02She just put it on her face every day.
SPEAKER_03And her hands, and she had soft hands, and yeah, so there's got to be something to it. Um matter of fact, last week we talked about Visa, Visa Luxe, a face product, and we talked about transdermal benefits. But um, for a refresher, maybe we talked just briefly about a component of olive and olive oil that mimics the skin's squalane. That would be squalene, correct?
SPEAKER_06It mimics squal the skin's squalene and it's squalane.
SPEAKER_03Ah, I got it back.
SPEAKER_06It's fine. It's it's one letter difference.
SPEAKER_03Are men are from Mars or are they from Venus? I can't remember. Which is what men are from Mars, women are from Venus, or anyway. I was correct, Gordon. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Well, we'll establish that because olive-derived squalane is uh a natural way to drive, I guess, uh active ingredients into the layers of the skin, correct?
SPEAKER_06Yep, correct. It dives deeper into your skin because you're right, it mimics your own natural oils, which are already there. So it's used to these oils in your skin. So it it complements your skin very well.
SPEAKER_03Right on. Yeah. You staying with us so far, Little Brother? Gotcha. Yes, we move fast on this podcast, okay? Gotcha. All right. Um I'm teasing Joe, he knows quite a bit about this product that we're talking about today. But in the area, we talked yes last week about the more cosmetic benefits. Right. The glow, antioxidant protection that comes from olive derived um ingredients and whatnot. We're gonna take a different approach today that all of has uh the ability to help with, I don't know, as a recovery from uh sports-related workouts, and there's a relief that can be garnered from olive derived skincare. And uh this little adventure when we started a few months ago. Joe had a you were nursing some injury, you're always nursing an injury, but what was it?
SPEAKER_02Well, um, I was particularly interested in this, not just uh topically, but also internally, um, because of the natural uh anti-inflammatory benefits of uh the oleocanthals that are found in extra virgin olive oil.
SPEAKER_03Ooh, big words settle down.
SPEAKER_02Oleocanthol, it's a polyphenol. And uh I'm sure you covered it last time. He's very smart. Um and uh it was uh fascinating to me when I started to hear about this and started to realize that it's been around for thousands and thousands of years. There's uh success leaves clues, and this has been consumed for thousands of years, and there are trees that are still producing it after thousands and thousands of years on this earth, continuing to produce fruit and continuing to produce olive oil. Well, from the fruit, creating the olive oil, and from that olive oil contains that oleocanthal.
SPEAKER_03And when you say thousands of years, there are thousands, there are olive trees out there, thousands of years old producing. Okay, so you referenced historic use topically. Uh the oldest, um, this is my nerd out thing that the Ebers papyrus, Google it, folks. Ebers papyrus is the oldest known medical text of sorts that they found in ancient Egypt, buried in it's a papyrus, papyrus, right, with hieroglyphics on it. And it has formulas, topical ones for abrasions and for bruising and muscle soreness with olives and olive oil.
SPEAKER_02But did they know at the time, and they didn't need they didn't know why, they didn't know why at the time, they didn't understand that there was something called oleocanthyl. That came later. That came actually within the last what 20 years, actually, that they discovered that polyphenol specifically called the oleocanthyl. And uh that was that's what interested me most when you started formulating this, Ashley. I decided to give it a fighting chance. Not just internally, because I do consume um the prima, I consume extra virgin olive oil every day. But then this one has a special type of extra virgin olive oil, which you kind of guided us through to this to finding which is the high phenolic extra virgin olive oil. It just means higher polyphenol count. And this particular one happens to have our very high high, high phenolic.
SPEAKER_03Have you seen it before, Ashley puts it in the formula?
SPEAKER_02Yes, and I've tried it, and it's pretty amazing. It's it's strong.
SPEAKER_03And and I think it's also very bright green. If folks at home imagine it, we should probably do a cutaway to it. It's emerald green almost. It's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02I think it might be the first product in the world designed and and formulated like what Ashley did. I think. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I believe so.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yes, it goes back thousands of years and people were using it, they just didn't understand why, nor did they need to know understand. They just know it worked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Science tells story sell.
SPEAKER_02That's right. But there is something in there, there's something that is that oleocanthal, mixed with other ingredients that Ashley's put in there that absolutely works. Yeah, it works for me. I will tell you that right now. I I've gone 100% into it and I absolutely love it.
SPEAKER_03And going back to not just the uh the papyrus um that were found in Egypt, but Hippocrates, the founder of modern medicine, he recommended it. Also in conjunction with uh Olympic athletes, they used it as a like I don't know, a rub-down, can you say that? Um for sports. Sorry, that's sounded really bad. But uh yeah, that it was used as far back as the Greeks. They figured a lot of stuff out back then.
SPEAKER_02They were really good with these sort of things, and it makes sense because the um the basis of almost all illness is inflammation, and that would be similar with our muscles and our joints and our our you know fibers and tendons and everything. Yeah, it's all all comes down to inflammation.
SPEAKER_03So allow me to pick, let me pick on you for a second, little brother. So um we are genetically programmed similarly, same parents, but uh you are definitely a much more avid sports enthusiast than I am. I'm better at watching sports than you definitely know more about them. Uh stats maybe a little bit. But Joe, for those who don't know this, my younger brother here, um, at one point was rated the fittest executive in the state of Utah. Um, how many iron men have you completed in your life?
SPEAKER_02I I hesitate on that because it was one that was. I know. Okay, so ten official Ironmans.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02One that got cut in half, and then one that's an X-Tri. Technically, the distance is pretty much the distances, but it's not considered an Iron Man.
SPEAKER_03He's being way too technical. It's whatever the number is, it's way more than twenty. How many iron men have you done?
SPEAKER_06Oh, I I can't even count.
SPEAKER_03None?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, zero.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I've done none Iron Men. So anything north of zero is high probability. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03As well as all these other events that Joe has uh done. So he's actually got a black belt in muscle pain and discomfort. I will quote you to you, Joe. You were once talking about an event where you, I think you cross-country skied from Aspen to Vale, Colorado, or something like that, right? Or it was the vice versa.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was one of those. I I something it took like, yeah, it was an overnight thing.
SPEAKER_03And I remember you were excited because you only lost like three toenails versus like all of them. And uh you told me, I remember you're like, in uh I was in the pain cave by hour two. And I said, I don't probably don't want to know well, what is the pain cave? And you described it's in a place where your brain goes and your body goes into pain, and you were there until you crossed the finish line, correct? Pretty much. How many hours do you think that was?
SPEAKER_02It was like 16 or 17. Oh my gosh, maybe 18. I don't know. I don't remember. It started at like 10 or 11 at night, and it went to like I think we finished at about five or six in the afternoon or four. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_03Wow. Trello? Ever done in no Iron Men? How many? You played hockey too. Sockey, yeah. Yeah. Um, and Joe's injury when we started this was a hockey-related injury on your meniscus. And and and I remember we were talking about internal benefits of of olives and olive derived products, and then you came in this room. We were in this room, and it looked different, it's fancier now. But you came in and said, look at these transdermal benefits of oleocanthol, and there were things like, oh, it's nutritionally supports the body's ability to recover from um swelling and and muscle tears and whatnot. You are the king of muscle tears. Whenever you exercise something, you do micro tears and you build stronger to build muscle. But you're constantly, I don't know, how many times have you broke your legs?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, broken both my legs, both my ankles. And um the best thing that I've ever used, I'll tell you that, Ashley. Best thing I've ever used. I've tried it all. I've tried everything of like to try to help from recovery. That's what you do. I mean, when you're when you're always pushing the limit, you're always looking for something. And I've tried it all, and I love it. I just had a new one this weekend, Gordon. Like a and I was just starting to tell Ashley about it right before here. I don't actually know what it is. It's something on the bottom of my foot. I I kind of like um plantar, but it's not, I don't think it's plantar, it's at the front of the foot. I've never really had it. I've had it like from time to time, and it usually just goes away really fast. But this has been around for like three months, and I don't know quite what it was. And it was getting to the point where it was really tender. I didn't even think to put flex. I don't know why I didn't, because I'm putting it on my ankle every day, I'm putting it on my knee all the time, I'm putting it on my shoulder and whatever's sore. So I decided to put that on Saturday. And I woke up, I I discovered like for the for like two days, I didn't feel the discomfort that I would been feeling for like three months. I thought, hmm. So I just put it on in our meeting right before this. I thought, I I don't I don't want to jinx this. I'm gonna put it on again. It was kind of probably not the most appropriate thing in a meeting. Ashley sitting next to me and I got my shoe off and my sock off, and I'm like rubbing it into my foot. But honestly, I'm so sorry. It just feels so much better. I don't know how to describe it. It's amazing.
SPEAKER_03It it's amazing. There's and believe we we get all surprised sometimes when our when things that are supplements or topical products work as they're supposed to work, but until we actually have a personal experience, it's like, well, it's just words on paper, you know, even if it's a peer-reviewed medical study. And and Joe's is to do with recovery from uh strenuous exercises and whatnot, um, or getting hit with a puck. Was it a puck that hit you in this meniscus?
SPEAKER_02Or just oh I I collided with someone and we just had one of those awkward, like it wasn't a fight. I noticed I'm 56. We're not fighting with a few people eventually like want to get a little. I'm like, okay, guys, grow up. We're adults. Um, but I just fell over and he fell on top of me. It was it was an honest mistake. Yeah. Something that I've been playing my whole life. It was just a weird kind of like this. And and it just happens, you know. Uh luckily, it wasn't, it was a horizontal tear, which is at the back of the knee. So if it was the side, either the right or the left meniscus, I would have had to have a surgery.
SPEAKER_03I didn't know what a meniscus was until Joe told this story.
SPEAKER_02No, but Gordon, I didn't either. I had to actually Google it.
SPEAKER_03I know about muscles and my I swear to you, I know about what a bursa is. Bursitis, because this man hurt his bursa. And he's like, I hurt my bursa. I'm like, what's that? And he's like, bursitis, it's I don't know what's not fun.
SPEAKER_02That's all I can tell you. It's not fun. That's like if you have it on your elbow, I couldn't do this. Like just so painful. Whoops, knock. Uh, so painful. Um, but honestly, like I put it on uh I'll put it on like a mosquito bite, I'll put it on anything that could cause an irritation or inflammation of any sort in the skin, I put it on. And it's like I don't know how to describe this. It's like maybe I literally have tried everything.
SPEAKER_03We have the product formulator right here, should we ask? We'll lead I call it leading the witness. I've said it, I said it three times on the first podcast, I realize. And then I said it twice on the second one. So we'll lead the witness because I know a little bit about this, but you're most qualified to address what is the component tree and why does it why does it have such value when it comes to what Joe's talking about? Yeah muscle soreness, etc.
SPEAKER_06So at the very beginning of all of this, this is my favorite part of it, is um I was in pain and we were just starting to.
SPEAKER_03You guys were the king and point of pain at the beginning of the yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's what you would say.
SPEAKER_03He's always gonna be in pain because he's always injuring. But you were different.
SPEAKER_06I was mine wasn't as cool. Like I was running and I have a hernated disc, the end. It was so dumb. Um, and it was causing me so much pain to where I couldn't even walk, I couldn't even function. I was taking well.
SPEAKER_02Let me just add, that's not dumb. That's a lot of a lot of people live with that.
SPEAKER_06Right. And it's from dumb stuff. Like no, but a lot of people do live with it.
SPEAKER_02And so people are listening to this right now going, oh my gosh, they're their ears just perked up.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_02Because it's what they deal with every day.
SPEAKER_06As soon as I started telling that story about Hernan Disc, every I can't believe the number of people that are like, well, I have one. And I'm like, are you okay? I know what it feels like. This is how are you okay? And they just deal with it. You're totally right. Um, so mine was pitching my sciatic nerve, and I could not get it to go away. I was doing all the yoga, all the exercises. I've gotten shots, I've gotten everything. And the only thing that would kind of, kind of take it away was ibuprofen. So I was taking a substantial amount. And then when we're starting Oleabo, we're learning about olive oil. And every day I research and I go, tell me something new I've never heard about olive oil before. And I'll search it on different chats or Google. And I came up with this podcast in this podcast, and they said the word oleocanthal. And I was like, what is this word? Tell me more. And um, so I heard this word, and they were linking it to the COX-1 and COX2 inhibitors, which are an anti-inflammatory or an inflammation pathway, um which is really interesting. So this guy back in, I think it was 2005, um, hang on. Yeah, that's when he created oleocanthol. He went to an olive oil tasting, I believe, in 1999.
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SPEAKER_06Um, and his name's Gary Buchum. And he tasted this olive oil in Sicily, and he said, Who put an ibuprofen in my olive oil? Just because it had this peppery, spicy burn. So he comes back and he creates this word for it, and he calls it oleocanthol. And this oleocanthol is in certain kinds of olive oil, and it has a lot of the same benefits, which is insane.
SPEAKER_02So I think that's why you get the burn, right? Because and they're of course laughed at. I'm like, of course, we're not sticking maybe profan in this.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. They're like, no, this is actual olive oil. It just harvests it differently. We've planted at different places. It's an early harvest, it's certain kind of olive, certain kind of trees. We stress the trees. It's just a really interesting story how they get really high oleocanthol in certain kind of olive oils. Um, so I come into the guys and I'm like, hey, listen to this word. These are the benefits. Do you think that I could create like a topical product for it? Because you'd have to drink a lot of this to get the same, you know, amount you would need as taking like one ibuprofen. It was a substantial amount you'd need to drink it. So I'm thinking, we should localize this. And they're like, go. So, which is my favorite word. Um, and so we came back in, we're all trying it, and in my mind, I'm like, please work, please work, please work. And it did, and that was the craziest part. And still to this day, I'll try it on a pain point in my body. And I'm like, still shocked that it's that it works because we've all used so many products before that don't work and don't have the ability to, you know, even calm or numb or anything. And it and it's disappointing every time I want to try something new that um will make me feel a little bit better.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's interesting because the th we all know everybody out there has used some sort of topical, usually some product that a lot of them smell like uh menthol or eucalyptus, and you put it on and your eyes water. There's a warming that happens, right? A warming, and and and that warming does cause uh a at least mentally for me, uh, some form of relief.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03Um what was surprising to me is that there was a there's a warming, calming of the muscles that happens with with this product that doesn't come with the it actually smells good. Like I actually smell, it doesn't collide with every cologne or it it my my if I wore like a one of those other products, Joe's like, don't use brand names, and um, but everybody knows what I'm talking about. You can go to the grocery store and buy an ointment, they're usually ointments, and you put the ointment on, and then the whole room smells of of menthaliptus, usually or something like that. Um, but this one has a pleasant smell. The viscosity is it's thinner, it's not gooey like that. And um Okay, besides olive derived uh component tree, is there anything leading both the witnesses in there outside of the olive world that helps with, say, I don't know, historically, abrasions or um inflammation topically?
SPEAKER_06Yes, there's a really special ingredient and it's called mango steam pericarp extract. That's what's in there. And every single ingredient is in there for a reason because it hits different pathways. But I am not the expert in that area, but I know someone who is.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if I'd be considered an expert, but we knew about this in the past, and mango stein has traditionally been used for thousands of years by cultures all around the world and used it internally. They would Make uh make a tea out of it. Uh the pericarp particularly, pericarp being the shell or the peel of the fruit. And they would make a tea out of it and drink it for d dysentery and and diarrhea and other things that have to relate to the gut, which, by the way, is an inflammation issue. Again, going back to that point about so much of what we experience health-wise is at the root of it, inflammation. But they'd also make poultices out of it and put it on their skin for skin conditions. And water almost all skin conditions, they're they're um inflammation related. And so they have something called xanthones. And so you've got this oleocanthal mixing from naturally found in high phenolic extra virgin olive oil, and then the mangosteen pericarp oil having this these similar similar properties and benefits. And the two of them combined, amongst other things. I will add that there's uh Ashley has put in olive leaf extract and olive fruit extract as well. So in addition to it just boosts all those which all the studies that you'll find. They have different uh polyphenols found in that. You've got uh allorapine, which is also a phenomenon. That comes from the leaf, and then from the fruit, um, it's called verboscocide. And so this this you know, add to it like frankincense and a few other, which is really, really good for sore joints and muscles. This product flexes like nothing I've ever used before. And I've tried it all. I've tried stuff from Asia, I've tried stuff off streets in Asia that are claimed to be like the best of the best of the best, and they do have that small Gordon. Yeah, you put that on your skin and you jump on a jump on a plane, forget it. The whole plane will smell like it, like it literally. Or if you go into a meeting, somebody like, whoa, what's soone know so I'm wearing? Um, and I'm not trying to put it down, I'm just trying to say that I've tried it all, everything. And nothing's ever worked.
SPEAKER_03I traditionally I think Joe, I I think you may have been the first one to mention the brand name when you said flex. So for those who didn't pick up on it, this is the product that we're talking about that uh uh Oleabo makes that Ashley um formulated. And it's called a topical recovery oil, is how we market it. But that is the product that we brought to market, leveraging the power of a mango steam pericarp uh oil, um oleocanthals derived from extra virgin olive oil, just naturally found in the extra virgin olive oil. Yes. And then the other component tree that Joe mentioned from the um uh leaf extract. And so I think this is probably the part in the program where people are saying, uh how do I use it? What do I do? How do we how does this work? I don't know if we have an open one. Can I open this one? Yeah, I'll open this and then maybe Young Ashley can demonstrate for us. Or Joe can. Joe, please leave your shoe on. Break the You can go from the bottom.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, there we go.
SPEAKER_03There we go. I can I have enough strength to open this. Okay. We should probably show pop this top off. People tried to miss it. You want to there we go.
SPEAKER_02So Joe is gonna usually at first you have to kind of prime the pump a little bit.
SPEAKER_03You want me to read the destructions? Sure. Okay. Massage onto sore or overworked areas of your body to experience a lasting sense of comfort. Oh, that feels good to read.
SPEAKER_02It does have a little bit of a scent. And what's that coming from, actually?
SPEAKER_06Uh mostly the peppermint and the olive oil. So they do kind of have those scents.
SPEAKER_02But that's a little bit of melaleuca in there.
SPEAKER_06There is. Yeah, the tea tree. Which which is I wanted to blend them together so it created a nice scent, but the the scent wasn't gonna it well, this scent isn't supposed to last forever either. It's supposed to absorb into your skin so you're not going around smelling like peppermint or tea tree or anything, but it really is a clean, pleasant scent. So much so that when we were manufacturing this, um, do you remember that day we go in there and there and someone comes in and they're like, what is that smell? This smells so good. And I'm like, Yes, that's exactly what I want to hear. I don't want to hear that, uh, you know, is someone is someone in pain. Smells like grandma, you know? Yeah. Smells like someone's in pain. No, that's not what it smells like.
SPEAKER_02It's I would say because it's an oil base, you want to rub it in really well, but it rubs in and it absorbs quite easily. And one of the things I like about it too, and and we were talking about this the other day, like I'll put it on at night. That's kind of one of my nightly routines. Yeah, and I'd put it on sometimes during the day. I did it today with my shoe off. Thank you, Ashley. With my shoe and my sock off. Um I'm so sorry. But um uh I'd like to put it on at night, and that's one thing that I will I will point out with those stronger smelling products out there. I wouldn't do that at night. It's too aroma aromatic, I guess, that would keep me from falling asleep. This doesn't have that effect in the least bit for me. And so I take this small amount like this, and just now you can't see it. I'm under the table here, but I'm just rubbing it on my ankle. This is an ankle that I broke uh 17, 18 years ago, and it did a good job on it when you break something, and you can break it, or you can really break it. I broke my leg and my ankle. I was dirt biking.
SPEAKER_03But you told me it was like f fibula fibula?
SPEAKER_02I don't remember. The big one. Whatever the fibula, it's the one on the outside. Where you go? That's the very scientific part of it. But I blew the that's that's one thing. The the the bone heals pretty easily, but the ankle, that's the issue. The ankle is the issue. So my ankle is pretty it it's just it just is is what it is. And um, when you break an ankle and you tear it, um it's it's something that will haunt you. Someone asked me on a podcast maybe a year ago or so, what's one of your biggest mistakes you ever made, which I think is an interesting question. Um I immediately thought of that ankle break because it's something I think of every time I take a step almost. And so um this is uh and to put it in perspective, I would normally, and I don't know if I've ever told you this, Ashley, but normally I got to the point where I would see my physical therapist almost like um a massage therapist. And I would go at least once a month, maybe every two months, and sometimes like two times in a month, uh see a massage therapist. I had a massage therapist that I would see regularly, at least once a month. And when I would blow out my, like when I say blow out, when I when I really hurt my ankle, which was regularly, um I would go see maybe twice both of them. So the amount of money I was spending, the amount of time I was spending to do this, uh, was pretty substantial. And so for me, this has been a a lifesaver. Um money saver too, frankly, because I I apply this, like I said, at night before bed, um, which is I think a good time to because that's when your body's supposed to, when we're sleeping, supposed to recover, repair. That's true. Muscle repair happens a lot at night. And so for I've never did that before because they always kept me up on any any one of these products would keep me up at night. And so I just because of the aroma and stimulating.
SPEAKER_03It'll keep your it'll keep your spouse awake at night.
SPEAKER_02I try to learn. In some of the cases, like the whole house, because it smells so much, but this one's not. I just rub it in really well, and it is oil-based, so I'd I'd rub it in real nice so that it doesn't get on the covers, but it doesn't. I mean, it doesn't get on the on my bed covers.
SPEAKER_03There's no real color, it's kind of just a little, maybe a little tinge of green. But okay, uh you put some on, I've noticed, right? Okay. Because all the cool kids were doing it.
SPEAKER_06Well, I don't want to brag, but I did 15 putch ups today, so my arm's a little bit.
SPEAKER_0315.
SPEAKER_06I have 15. My record so far.
SPEAKER_03Yay. Um a personal best.
SPEAKER_06So my arm is a little sore. Um, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03Trello gave you some props.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. But also, this is yeah, I love your stories. I love all of this and the saving money part. But I want to go back to a physical therapist. So my brother is a physical therapist. And I, I mean, I've created what have we tested here? We've created like 30 different versions of this before we sent it off to the lab to have them help us, you know, finish everything. Um, but I'm bringing it over to like my family's house. I'm like, everyone test this, see how it works, tell me how it feels. And my brother's a physical therapist, and he just wouldn't use it. And he's like, whatever, hocus pocus, you're doing. I don't know. And finally he's like, fine, I'll sh I'll test it um out. And so we're sitting there at my parents' table, and he's he's putting it on his hands because he has a lot of inflammation in his hands from being a physical therapist and rubbing, you know, doing the I've heard that from other physical therapists, yeah. Yeah. Um, and he puts it on, and I was like, I'm gonna check back with you in a few minutes. Like, we'll you know, we'll see how it feels. And then 30 seconds later, I hear I hear from him, this is stupid. I was like, why? He's like, I can already feel it. And I was like, ah, I got you. But it really you made a believer out of him. Out of a physical therapist.
SPEAKER_03Well, you did the same for me. Oh my gosh. Because I my pain was in my hands, right? It's it is I listen to me now and believe me later. I just put it on while Joe was rubbing his swollen foot. And um I got the visual of Joe's swollen foot from my perspective. I was rubbing on my thumbs, and I have arthritis in my thumbs. Arthritis is a fairly normal thing once you I am three years older than I'll save you the math. I'm 59, folks. Um, I'm older than my younger brother here. But I it's it's not it's a warming without, I don't know how to put it. It's like a warming that doesn't come from uh eucalyptus menthol, that sort of thing. Um and uh you feel right now, it's actually quite a wonderful feeling. Like nobody believes it until it actually happens to them, right? You just kind of have to get some and and try it out. Now, I'm gonna pick on you for a second. Okay, so we heard about Joe's injuries, no, no pressure or anything, but I I named your um your situation the technical name of you had Larry Bird back, which will date this. The people that get that will will have watched NBA circa 1980s because Larry Bird always seemed to have back pain, right? He was like, Oh, Larry Bird is out with back pain and that sort of thing. So when Ashley was complaining, she was the lone female in the office at the time, and you were the one with the lower back pain, which was unusual. Men are usually the ones with the defective lower back. But you were taking a ridiculous amount of ibuprofen at the time. You pointing out Ashley's probably like 70 pounds soaking wet, right? So if she's you go down. You were down an eight. It's funny. I don't care who you are. I'm the funnier. Who's the funnier Morton?
SPEAKER_05You both you both are pretty funny, both of you, in your own different ways.
SPEAKER_03Joe's got Joe can do the Kramer mimics, but you you interestingly have not complained about your Larry Bird back for I I forgot.
SPEAKER_02You're right. It's like forever. So you just brought this up, Gordon.
SPEAKER_03You don't complain anymore. And it's just that it's um like a it people always say it's a miracle. It's just what happens. You take something and the the studies that we read about actually happen when you use a product in real life. Trello, you've had enough um exposure to this group. Have you heard Ashley mention anything about her lower back in recent months?
SPEAKER_01Just barely, actually, because Lindsay also has some stuff that are sciatic. Yeah. So she had all the tips and tricks, and then she told me to tell Lindsay to do work.
SPEAKER_03And that's how it works, folks. You just do this and then product. Yeah. Eventually I start forming sentences, but first is just like this with my hand, um, which is much easier when I put this on my thumbs. Uh I play guitar. I don't Joe Joe exercises. Okay, Joe trains, folks. I will exercise the bare minimum so that my heart stays alive. Joe trains. Joe's always training for some. Are you training for anything right now?
SPEAKER_02Not at the moment, because I'm I'm just making sure that's freaking boo.
SPEAKER_03You've just you slacker. So yeah, you had to work out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Joe, uh I'm doing 75 hard right now for anyone who knows about that. So I gotta do 45 minutes in the morning, 45 minutes at night.
SPEAKER_03Did you know what that is?
SPEAKER_06I do, but usually people make a bigger deal about it because Joe's just like, this is just my life, 75 hard. Or people are like really intense in it because it is hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't I didn't know until he said it the other day. Do you know 75 hard is Troller? I've heard of it. Okay.
unknownI've never done it.
SPEAKER_03All right. It's apparently not comfortable. So Joe does that. And um, so what that's why I said like he kind of trains versus exercise. I know 75 hours probably uh exercise. But for like for myself, my mine is not a it's different. Like I play guitar. I don't play well enough to ever made money doing it. I just enjoy it. And uh, it's a real bummer when your hands hurt, it makes it rather difficult to, you know, you play guitar. It's the it's the the strength to press the your fingers down on the frets and the strum and whatnot. And um it is so much easier when I put this on. So there are musicians out there. There you go.
SPEAKER_02Me too. And I will add to it, like I could just keep going about all the ways that it's uh affected me. I'll tell you another thing. Um I I don't know why this happens. For whatever reason, right on this left arm, I get really itchy if I'm in the sun too much. I don't know why. It's been like that for years and years and years. Nothing's ever helped. And I put it on it, and I feel less.
SPEAKER_03You're not the first person that's said they less itch. What is that comes with like it's the weirdest thing? I got a weird phantom itch on my back, and it just suddenly just appeared in the last few years. Okay.
SPEAKER_02And I get this from people when we're doing meetings. I'm doing meetings. Yeah, I've had people say, I put it on this itchy spot and it doesn't work. That's why I try it.
SPEAKER_03It's coming, it's coming.
SPEAKER_02Great. I don't know if it's an age thing. I think it's like people, but but the other thing is something that uh we've joked about in our family, and I don't know where we get it from. We call it gimp neck. Yes. Where which people, there's probably some sort of a more official term for it, but you know, you wake up and your neck's like eh, and um and it runs in our family. But but for when I would get that, Gordon, and and it's it used to be very regular for me. Um, when I would get that, it could last for a week, yeah, or two weeks, or a week and a half. You know, it just it just seems to linger since applying this product. I haven't had like I'll get it and then I'll just rub it in really well. And I've tried again all the other stuff that I've tried, never seems to work. That's again physical therapy or massage, usually massage therapy, because that is really a muscle issue.
SPEAKER_03But for the gimp neck, I find that sometimes it makes it worse when you go to a massage therapist. I don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_02Because they release all those the knots, and then the knots like send out whatever they send out into your body. And yes, you're right, it could make it worse. This is what I use now. And I have not had in what would you say, Ashley? It's been probably close to a year that you started working on this formula. Yeah, and so the different formula, the different variations of it until it was launched by the.
SPEAKER_03People out there, they're like, what the heck? I didn't know it was even exist. Well, we were using your brewing about beta versions.
SPEAKER_02But now that's what I'll use. And and it when it comes, and it does come from time to time. I bike too. So when you're biking, you're you're kind of crouched over and your head has to the way that you bike.
SPEAKER_03I bike with the sound of music bike.
SPEAKER_02I love my I love biking. I did a bike. Well, you have to be you have to be focused, because like this morning, I was this close to getting hit. I was coming down, yeah. I know it was scary. I was coming down and and the sun was coming over. You know how in Utah can the sun can come down. So you have to be really focused and you got to be watching everything. And but I'm down in that crouched position, so your head's up like this. And so it tends to, and I did almost get hit, it was very scary, but um uh I didn't because I was paying attention, because I was sticking up that uh but um uh I have to I I'll I'll just apply it at least once a week, and that's about all I need. I'm just a little bit here, a little bit here, and I I I can't I don't even know how to describe this, guys. I've tried everything. And anyone who's out there that has tried everything, I encourage you to check this thing out. Like we actually, I will do this in meetings, live meetings. I'm that confident in this product, Ashley. Well, pass it around. And I'm yet to have a meeting where someone doesn't say, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And they put their hand up and say, I just did this 20 minutes ago or 30 minutes ago. It there's something magical about it. And and it doesn't surprise me, again, successfully use clues, the thing's been around. When I say the thing, yeah, extra virgin olive oil has been around for thousands of years and it's been used for thousands of years. Thousands and mango steam pericarp oil. Well, maybe not the pericarp oil because that's something a little more recent, but the poultices that they would put on their skin thousands of years. Success leaves clues, it's out there, and and and then frankincense again, frankincense actually has been used for thousands of years for sore joints and muscles and and so forth. Generally, topically, people would use it. Or or giving for gifts, apparently. That happened a couple thousand years ago, and uh but but it would be thousand twenty-six years. Um but I mean it's that's funny.
SPEAKER_03It's been around for thousands of years, gold and myrrh. I don't know what myrrh is.
SPEAKER_06Um I left those two ingredients out. Sadly.
SPEAKER_03You left gold and myrrh out. Okay.
SPEAKER_02But this is this is this is something I've never been able to experience before. And I and I'm so happy that it's here. So thank you, Ashley. I agree.
SPEAKER_06You guys gratitude. This isn't just me, also. This is a group effort. This is all everyone's powers combined to make this, which is why it does work so well.
SPEAKER_03Well, let's do this then to finish up on this. Um, also, you you don't you hear a lot about athletics or whatever. Maybe you have a weird back. I what you was talking about with the stiff neck, gimp neck is one of our family.
SPEAKER_02It doesn't have to be a bone.
SPEAKER_03No, it's just you can just go to bed healthy and wake up injured. It just happens and you get it, and then you're like, what? And and then your doctor's just like, ah, there's nothing I can do. You can wear this neck brace. No.
SPEAKER_02Or go to a massage therapist like I have or whatever. Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, this one, no, no um appointment necessary. Do purchase this, it's just it uh go to oliabo.com. You can see if you're unfamiliar with that, it'll walk you through it. Nice, gentle process.
SPEAKER_02All natural, all natural, all nice, yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh natural component tree. And yeah. So um that that being said, we we can uh finish off with a challenge if you want. You can learn more. You can just go to the website or talk to whoever told you about this podcast. And yeah. I think we were efficient with time today. Anything left to check? Let me see.
SPEAKER_02Um, oh, you were gonna tell me I said something about lactic acid, but apparently lactic acid is not the uh it's not a well lactic acid's interesting, it's something that generally just kind of goes away after about what 30, 60 minutes. We think it's something that's causing the muscle pain, but it's really not. It's just all the little tears in the muscles and tendons and fibers and so forth. Uh that's the thing. And so we're when we're when we're working our muscles a little further than what we're capable of, it creates that soreness.
SPEAKER_03I learned that today, by the way. Did not know that it's it's the the soreness is actually not the actual lactic acid, it's the whatever the tearing or something, right?
SPEAKER_02But I've had experience with that, what you just said, when I pushed it a little bit too far. And I love I love that. But it can happen on your calves, it can happen on your um uh quads, uh hamstrings, whatever it might be. And I find it's made a big difference for me too. Super good.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there you go. That was a nice little efficient quick capsule summary of um simple product to enjoy if you like. Yeah, so um let's call it quits. We'll do the outro music. Uh Trello will run it so that make sure that everybody has got it stuck in their brain. Uh, it is an ear wig, it will get stuck in your brain. Yes. Uh you'll need a priest to remove it from your your mental processes.
SPEAKER_06You're gonna forget it by next week, and then next week. We'll remind you again. Yep, yeah, for another.
SPEAKER_03It's like the whoop, there it is, of of uh intro and outro music. So all right. Thank you to our special guest today. I sound like I'm the forever host. I don't think that's I think you are. Oh, am I? No, I think Joe. All right, thank you, Joe. Thank you, Ashley. Thank you for tuning in, folks out there in uh podcast world. Trello and Trello at the boards. Cheers. Grazie.