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Eagan Mayor Mike Maguire - Incumbent for Eagan Mayor
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Hosted by Steve Francisco. Mike Maguire has served as mayor of Eagan since 2007. In this interview, Mayor Maguire tells host Steve Francisco why he is now seeking a sixth term and identifies what he views as some of his most important achievements as mayor. Mike notes that while national and state politics have become increasingly polarized in recent years, he has worked to maintain a respectful tone with his colleagues on the City Council to move Eagan forward into the future. The mayor shares his thoughts about AI data centers and why he supported the one-year moratorium on new data centers in Eagan. He also discusses the city's changing demographics and the ongoing challenges of keeping a strong local economy and maintaining Eagan's high quality of life.
Hello and welcome to another episode of Access to Democracy. I'm your host, Steve Francisco. Thank you for taking part of your day to view our program. We're pleased to be sponsored by Recalibra Health, the 45th Parallel Distillery, the Sheridan and Dulas Law Firm, and True Stone Financial. My guest today is the mayor of the city of Egan, Mike McGuire. Mayor Mike, welcome to Access to Democracy. Steve, thank you. Thank you for having me. So you have been mayor of the city for quite some time. And prior to being mayor, you served on the city council. Tell us a little bit about your background for people who may not know you, which is hard to believe after you've been mayor so long. Everyone probably knows you. But tell a little bit about your background, how you ended up in Minnesota, how long you've been in Egan.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, uh, Steve, I was raised originally, I was born and raised just outside of Boston, about 30 miles south. Uh so I'm a I'm a uh a Boston fan, a Red Sox fan. Um, but I moved out uh to Minnesota uh after my undergrad to get a master's degree at Mankato State University. Uh and uh and um every good story starts with uh a woman. Uh and so I met a woman, my wife Janelle, uh, at Mankato State University. Um shortly after we were married, we moved to uh Egan in 1995, uh and uh and we started raising our family here. So in uh in 2002, uh I ran for the uh Egan City Council. Uh and uh my son was born uh about a month before the primary that year. Uh so he's never known uh a dad who wasn't involved in Egan politics somehow. Uh and I served for, I was successful in that uh in that election, was elected to the city council, served four years in the city council. Uh and then uh about midway through my first term on the city council, um uh two things happened that were pretty formative. Uh one is um Pat Gagan, the then mayor, uh announced that he wasn't gonna run for re-election. Uh, and he encouraged me to run for mayor. Uh and uh just about the same time I had a cancer diagnosis. Uh and so I uh I battled cancer and was in chemotherapy for uh about a year. Um uh didn't step back from the city council job and didn't step back from running for mayor. Uh in 2006, I ran for mayor, uh, and I ran against councilmember Cindy Fields, uh, who's still on the council. Uh her and I had a really uh great-spirited campaign. She suggests that she voted for me at the end. Um and I I trust her because she actually she paid for my parking one time at a at a at a at an uh an endorsement.
SPEAKER_00Unusual among the political opponents.
SPEAKER_02It was uh it was very kind of her. But um uh so I was elected in 2006, uh, started serving in 2007 then. Uh I ran for re-election in 2010. Uh and um and uh Jerry Browner, uh God rest his soul, was my uh opponent then. Uh excellent uh defensive back, um, not the best of candidates. Uh and so I won re-election then. And then uh since then I've run for re-election three times unopposed. Uh and uh and we are here in 2026. Uh I'm continuing my mission. I think when I came on the council, uh, and you might remember and your viewers might remember, um, you know, in the early 2000s, the uh the Egan City Council wasn't the most functional body. Uh, not only in Egan, but really we had a reputation around the state and around the metro area. I wasn't aware of that.
SPEAKER_00I I moved here in 2003, came back to Minnesota after I got married.
SPEAKER_02So, yeah, there was there was uh some some uh notable dysfunction. I think it it centered around some level of partisan politics on the council, uh, and some level of just personal politics. Um, but really uh quite uh derisive and and and confusing for folks. Uh and my you know my hope in coming on the council was to to try to bring the council together uh and to focus on the needs of Egan. Uh I wanted to see the council be a little more professional, a little less political, uh, and really focused on the long-term and stability in terms of Egan's um uh uh uh policy direction and strategic direction on economic development. And I've been very pleased that for the last 20 years I've been really quite successful at doing that.
SPEAKER_00So I have to ask you this, Mike. Yeah. You are the eighth mayor of the city of Egan and you are now serving your fifth term. If you are re-elected, your sixth term 20 years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Why have you decided to run for re-election after all that time?
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_00And what can you speak particularly to what policy goal or goals do you have that you want to try to achieve that you haven't been able to achieve already?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, and I and I appreciate the question. I mean it's certainly it's a long-term uh uh uh legacy um that I've already uh contributed to the city of Egan, and I've been honored and privileged to be the mayor. Uh and you know, I think the for me, uh, when I came on the count on the council first and as mayor, uh my goal has always been to kind of uh focus on the needs of Egan and not the political noise in St. Paul or in Washington, D.C. that has really, quite frankly, since 2007, become increasingly divided and increasingly dysfunctional. Um, and I think that leads to an inconsistency in policy and a kind of confusion in policy. It's hard to set a straight and steady direction and maintain that. Um and that's what I'm most proud of over the last 20 years. We've been through recession, we've been through a pandemic, we've been through uh uh political turbulence at different periods uh in that 20 years. Um and um and for me, um having the Egan City Council function as kind of shelter from that partisan storm that we see in St. Paul and in Washington, D.C. has been my driving mission uh and what has really um made me want to continue to do this work. Um I will say that in the last two years in particular, um, I think our politics nationally and even on the state level have gotten even a little more challenging in terms of turbulence, division, um pressure, partisan and otherwise. And um and we've seen that in City Hall, especially over the last two years. Uh and so part of the uh the reason for me wanting to run, because there's always a project that can keep you in it. Um but for me, um, it is the hope that um, you know, we've worked a lot in the last 20 years to build a city council and a city that maintains a consistent, stable, and steady direction. Um in the last two years, there's been a lot of pressure to give into the the political whim of the day uh and to maybe lose that beam. Uh and uh and so my mission in running for re-election really uh is to get us to the other side of our current uh political divisions and to see if we can get through, most particularly the next two years, um, with a really uh uncertain and tumultuous administration in Washington, D.C. that really does trickle down uh even into the way that we see citizens coming into City Hall. Right. Uh and my hope is that we can uh get to the other side uh of this administration uh and be able to maybe uh as a community, uh as a council, uh get back to a more uh ordinary order. Uh and maybe uh we can do that in St. Paul and in Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER_00And respect for people who may have different views and agreeing to disagree sometimes.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00I want to ask you about an issue that many cities are grappling with right now, and many residents all over, not just Minnesota, but all over the country, are very concerned about. That is the future of the so-called AI, artificial intelligence data centers. City of Egan and the council passed a one-year moratorium on data centers. I assume that you supported that. Absolutely. Do you support that? And do you support an extension of a moratorium on new data centers in Egan? And what are your specific concerns with regard to data centers?
SPEAKER_02Well, I, you know, it's a it's uh there's a lot to that question, and I appreciate it. Um, a couple of things. I did support uh and I do support the moratorium that we had. Um the reason why we put that in place, quite frankly, is because the technology of AI and data centers is evolving more quickly than our local ordinances can keep up with. And I think what we were concerned about is that our local ordinance did ordinances didn't specifically call out data centers as a use. Uh, and we wanted to correct that and be able to make sure that if you had a warehouse, you couldn't just convert it into a data center and bring all the challenges of that in. So that was the reason why we took the pause is to make sure we can catch our ordinances up to that technology. Um now, on the question of extending it, I'm, you know, to be honest with you, I'm not sure if we can or not. Um, I know that we by state statute, we're allowed to put in a one-year moratorium on any item. We can end that moratorium early if we wanted to, um, but I don't know if we can legally extend it. The state of Minnesota um this past session considered um but didn't act on a two-year moratorium. Right. And I would and I would have liked to have seen that in part because I think my issues around data centers are uh are you know three basic issues quality of life in neighborhoods and how uh noise and vibrations affect neighborhoods, and and quite frankly, proximity of data centers to the neighborhoods. And I should say, you know, not all data centers are created equal. And there are five megawatt data centers that have less impact, uh, and then there are 200 and 300 megawatt data centers that have significant impacts. And I think we have to always kind of measure the fact from fiction in terms of the relative impact.
SPEAKER_00But what about the concern that has been raised by some people about the a large amount of electricity usage, the impact on residential rates for homeowners? And those are what about water usage? I understand that the larger centers consume large amounts of water to cool the equipment. And this issue is playing out right next door in Invergrove Heights. We've had a controversy up in Hermantown near Duluth. What are your thoughts about those?
SPEAKER_02So those were the other two issues that I was gonna get to. Um, on water, um, that's an issue that because the city of Egan is a water utility and we work with WMOs, um, that's an area of use that we can build into our ordinances uh and we can check water supply against applications for data centers. Um I will say, and I'm gonna get to electricity afterwards, but I was just yesterday in a meeting uh with the Greater MSP board. I serve on that board, and that's a it's a board that tries to Could you hold that thought one second, Mr.
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SPEAKER_00And we are back with the mayor of EGAM, Mike McGuire. Mike, you were saying we were discussing data centers.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and we're so we're talking about the water issue specifically, and then we'll get to electricity. But I was just yesterday, I'm on the board of Greater MSP, which is a regional board of corporate leaders and a public-private uh partnership that tries to uh look out for Minnesota and the Greater MSP region in terms of national competitiveness, economic development, job creation, et cetera. Um, and uh one of the initiatives of Greater MSP is to look at data centers and readily admit that we have done data centers or the way we have done data centers uh up to now has not been productive or good for communities. Um and what we're looking at at Greater MSP is um the model that comes out with data centers done right. Um and one of the examples I was hearing from Wisconsin was a data center where um some new technology has been put in place. Um they're trying to create now waterless data centers. Um and um uh and what I'm told is that um, and I don't know this case specifically, but in this case in in uh in Wisconsin, the people who are actually in the data center use more water, for example, in the restrooms um or in the break room than the machinery does. Um now I don't know exactly how they clean, uh uh how they how they cool from there. Um, but that water usage is certainly one of the things that we have to look at in terms of Egan uh and understand how what the impact of any data center is on our water supply and on our uh on our being able to maintain that water supply. And that certainly is gonna be part of the regulation locally uh in terms of the ordinances that come out, or at least we're gonna look at that. Now, on electricity, really quickly, we referenced the the state moratorium. Um and um, you know, unfortunately or fortunately for us, really, it's the PUC that regulates electricity and rates and what passes on to ratepayers uh from the impact of data centers. That's why I really wish that the state had taken that two-year moratorium.
SPEAKER_00The state would preempt cities to regulate data centers?
SPEAKER_02Well, they already do. The PUC already does regulate on the electricity issue, uh not on land use and not on water. Right. Um, but on electricity. Yeah, correct. So so I wish the state had put a moratorium in or at least found ways to be clearer about how we regulate electricity around data centers and other uses, quite frankly, um in Minnesota. Because I think one of the things that is true about these moratoriums is they also give an opportunity to separate fact from fiction uh and to educate the community as well. Um and I, you know, I think that there's a lot of um of stories and narratives that come out of, like, for example, Data Center Alley in Virginia. Um and um and I think in Virginia they regulate electricity differently than they do here in Minnesota. Right. Um, and so I think it's important that we always understand the differences in context between data centers because they really have become a poster child um in Virginia and they should be dealt with more effectively in Virginia. But I think we can do it well here in Minnesota as well.
SPEAKER_00I want to switch topics here and talk about economic development. I think we all appreciate our city of Egan is pretty well developed. I don't believe there are any big tracts of land that remain undeveloped. Correct me if I'm mistaken. No, I think I mean there are some notable lots that are up for redevelopment, but yeah. We're a pretty mature community. We are uh we have, as I understand it, info from your website, 2,000 businesses, 50,000 jobs in Egan. We've seen a lot of economic change in the 20 years that you've been mayor. We used to be home to a worldwide airline, Northwest Airlines. My father worked at Northwest. Then they were absorbed by Delta and everything moved to Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, but change happened. So talk about some of the changes that have occurred with respect to businesses. And are there any particular new economic opportunities that you see that you would like to seize in the future for this city?
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, I think with a with a maturing city or a city that's matured, you never put a period on that sentence because you'll always have to continue to evolve and reinvent yourself. Otherwise, as a city, you go into decline. Um, and I think one of the things that I'm that I'm proud of is that we've come through recession uh and and survived uh the the concerns with with recession around, for example, Lockheed Martin becomes Egan Commons. Right. Um uh the Cedar Grove area, which was begun before I even became mayor, you know, that has really developed out well and in a mix of of uh live, uh work and play uh in that area in the outlet mall uh and in the residential development in Cedar Grove. That's one of the places where we've really done density well uh in that redevelopment. Um and so, you know, right now and today, we're faced with the effects of the pandemic. Um and Egan was very invested in corporate campuses uh for property tax base and for jobs. Uh and since the pandemic, we've seen companies taking up a smaller physical footprint as their workforces become more mobile, uh, and only occasionally on campus, but also occasionally at home. Uh and uh so you know, between four campuses in town, uh the Thompson Reuters campus, and then thankfully they stayed in town but moved to a different campus, uh, that's a redevelopment opportunity that we're currently engaged in. There's also the Delta uh training site and the UNICES uh site. Those are north of uh the community center. Uh, and the city took an active approach in master uh planning those opportunities, and we're seeing work with uh the Dakota County CDA on half of those sites uh to really get the entire site ready for housing development. Um they've purchased a site, they're getting a site ready, they're gonna build some workforce housing on a portion of the site, but then once it's ready, they're gonna sell it back to the private market, um, but only sell it to sellers who are gonna buy into the city's vision for that area and the vision that we and neighbors worked out. So that's a that's a real opportunity for me in terms of adding housing to this community because that's important.
SPEAKER_00And we should mention on economic development the tremendous arrival of the Minnesota Vikings making Egan their home.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. And that was in the old Delta site as well. Right. Uh that happened in 2018.
SPEAKER_00The Viking Lakes Complex, I think they call it the hotel, the training facility.
SPEAKER_02And they continue to have plans. You know, when we when we adopted that in 2018, I believe it was, um, it was about a 15-year plan and vision that we all know would be flexible at times, not unlike Cedar Grove. Uh, you don't fall in love with the picture, you fall in love with the idea of successful redevelopment. Uh, and so they're they're still adding on assets and and and and and uh and different functions up there. I was just up there last week at the uh the Ethiopian soccer uh tournament. And uh what a boy, what a great environment for that event. Um and it brought people in from around the country uh to Egan. Uh and uh and you know, I was after I was there, I popped across the street to a new restaurant there. Uh great addition to our community as well. So that's been a particularly solid redevelopment. Uh and uh and you know, the Blue Cross Blue Shield uh site is also one, you know, with Thompson Reuters and Blue Cross Blue Shield and Delta, one of the challenges of change that we're dealing with is some of these companies are uh companies that were real um bedrocks and flagships of the city of Egan. They were foundational to our original development. Right. Um and you know, I mean, uh I think back in the 70s, early 80s, right? Yeah, and I think people looked at those and thought, you know, those are forever buildings, those are forever campuses. Um, and I think what we've learned from the pandemic and from recession is uh really not everything is forever. It can be for a long time, but that also makes that transition and that change and the redevelopment that much more difficult. And you have to really have a balanced approach to it. Um, but we do have to kind of accept that things are gonna change. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I want to ask you about changing demographics. Egan, like so many communities, has changed tremendously in the 20 years that you've been mayor of the city. And this is true of not just of Egan, I think it's true of our state and other suburban communities, cities all over. But recently, the Star Tribune did an inter interesting story, which I'm sure you saw, about young millennials wanting to move from the cities, uh, St. Paul and Minneapolis to suburban communities.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00One of the obstacles that they talked about in the article was the price of housing. Do you believe that Egan currently has a decent mix of affordable housing for different incomes? And what can the city do to make Egan a place that can draw a mix of families?
SPEAKER_02Right, right. Well, uh so I I I I I don't think we'll ever have the um optimal mix of affordability versus market rate. I think it's a consistently a challenge. I came onto the council as an affordable housing advocate. I remember uh standing up uh uh with my group from St. John Newman uh in the city council meetings um back in 2000, I think it was. Um and so, you know, I think Egan has done a good job in providing for affordable housing. Um, but you know, it's a national issue. Um one of the things that is a challenge right now is that Minnesota is not distinct different from the nation. We have underproduced housing um since the recession. Um some of that is because the recession really caused some folks to get out of the business. Um, but it's put more pressure on what housing we do produce.
SPEAKER_00Um some some communities, including suburban communities, we've seen where the land is already developed and they begin growing vertically rather than horizontally. Yeah. Do you see that in Egan's future? Should we expect that we're gonna see more high-rises built in Egan as we've seen in places like Richfield and Bloomington?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um I'm not sure about high rises, but what I will say is for probably about the last 10 years at least, the vast majority of um home production in our community has been in the multifamily area. Twin uh uh medium density uh uh townhouses, uh And up through apartments and high density apartments, and we've seen a lot of those develop. So, you know, uh we've already seen that. I think every year um we probably approve in the tens or twenties of single family houses, um, but in the you know, hundreds and maybe even thousands of uh townhouses and apartment units. So we're already seeing that change. Um and that but the the challenge continues to be that even in a townhouse, um, the entry point for a townhouse, if it's not involved as affordable, uh, can still be pretty hard to reach. Um and so, you know, I mean I think you asked me about specifically about affordable housing. I think we've worked really well um with the CDA um and you know, affordable housing community development authority.
SPEAKER_00Correct, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um and I, you know, I talked about the about the partnership example that we have uh in the in the North Central special area where you know they're getting the entire site ready. Um any supply in the market is gonna help affordability. Um but specifically, when you put supply in the market that is workforce housing that's um developed by the CDA, that's gonna plant one foot in terms of affordability and make that directly accessible. But then when the when the private market then comes in and they produce other uh market rate housing, what what that does is it it it spreads the the supply out a little bit more and takes some of the upward pressure off of that. The other issue we see, and just really quickly, is equity um companies buying up single family homes uh for rental and competing with those young families. Glad you brought that up.
SPEAKER_00What do you think of that? These private equity companies buying up housing stock.
SPEAKER_02I'm not I'm not a big fan of it. Um I don't know at the local level if there's anything we can do to prevent those kinds of private sales. I think that the federal legislation that just went into place is an attempt to do that. Um I think it went into place without the president's signature, but it but uh went into place all the same. Um and at least they're trying to deal with that. I think that's a that's a that's a real issue because young families who are wanting to move from St. Paul out to Egan can't compete with an equity fund. Yeah. Um and that's something we have to correct in the market.
SPEAKER_00Mr. Mayor, one of the top concerns for residents of any city, I would think, is always public safety. And I read pretty amazing statistic that the violent crime rate in the city of Egan comes in 10 times lower than the national rate. Even the rate of serious property crime is lower than many surrounding communities. Uh, do you want to give a shout out to the Egan Police Department?
SPEAKER_02I always lead a shout out to the Egan Police Department. Yeah, you know, um uh I I think we have an excellent uh uh police department.
SPEAKER_00By the way, we just had the Chief on. Chief O'Marley was on recently. And also the fire chief was on recently.
SPEAKER_02Yep, very proud of both of those hires uh for different reasons on both of them, but uh uh really quality individuals. Look, you know, I'm running for uh for re-election, and I have the endorsement of uh both Chief New and Chief McDonald before him. Uh and the reason for that is because um I've always trusted uh our police department and its leadership, um, but I've also made sure to hold them accountable and to hold them accountable to their own standards. And I think both of those officers and our current chief are very much uh uh on the same page in terms of, you know, as a police force, one of the reasons for our success is because we engage the community uh and we approach the community um hoping to A, prevent crimes and B, build a trusting relationship with our community. Uh and we are insistent on a high standard of accountability that says we treat people with respect, with dignity, um, and we're accountable to those people.
SPEAKER_00And when Chief O'Mari was on our program recently, we talked about the hiring standards to become an Egan police officer. Yes. Very strict.
SPEAKER_02Yes, very much so.
SPEAKER_00That you get a higher quality of officer in the city of Egan, and I think that's reflected in the way our police department works.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I think it's because I mean, whatever level you come into our police department, um, there's an opportunity for you to grow and be a better professional, um, a better community member. Um, and um, and I think it, you know, it it doesn't, it's not just the chief, uh, it is all the way up and down uh the department. I think there's a culture of accountability and community service, um, which is second to none in the metro area, and I will always give a shout out to our police.
SPEAKER_00One of the issues that's come up in many police departments, both in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and suburban communities, is the future use of drones. There's been some controversy. I asked Chief Omari about this. He said, yeah, we're studying that issue, as are several suburban communities. If the police department uh asks the city for permission or asks to uh buy more drones for use in the police department, is that something you're gonna be supportive of? You like that idea?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, I need to see the specific proposals and understand what the policies are. You know, that's that's also an issue with body cams, is it is that you know, you you want to make sure that once you once you use them that they're using that you have clear standards on what's appropriate and what's not appropriate, uh when it's appropriate to have them on or or off. And the same thing with drones. I mean, you know, we already do use drones on some on some occasions. Um and um, you know, the most recent controversy I heard was that was the question of, for example, um, I think in St. Paul, maybe there was a proposal too, uh, to use drones to come out and kind of be a first responder. Um, and you know, in theory, uh, I'm supportive of that because there is a possibility of giving the police important information before they get to a scene and to be able to triage that scene. So Mr.
SPEAKER_00Mayor, as always, the time goes way too fast, but we have to save the last minute to give you the last word. You mentioned you have two opponents in the August 11th primary, City Councilmember Mike Spino and Joe Krueger. What distinguishes you from your opponents? And here's your chance to give your pitch directly to our voters. Why should they vote to re-elect you mayor?
SPEAKER_02Well, thank you. I appreciate that, Stephen. I appreciate the time here today. I think uh in the in the primary coming up in August, I think one of the people one of the things that people should know and voters should know is that um I come into that primary and hopefully to the uh November uh general election as well, committed to the same principles and values that I have for the last 20 years. Um I have made a built a reputation as a nonpartisan street shooter, uh, and I try to keep Egan out of politics. Um, I'm running my campaign um on my own. I'm not running hand in glove with any political parties, uh, and I'm not seeking endorsement from any political parties. Um, and I think that's important because for the last 20 years, uh Egan has been shelter from the storm, from those kinds of partisan noises. Um, and I want to keep doing that. I want to keep Egan uh functioning in that way and moving forward.
SPEAKER_00Egan Mayor Mike McGuire, thank you for being our guest today on Access to Democracy.
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