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Erin It Out
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Erin It Out
A Trip Down Memory Lane
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In this episode, you get the lore of the Erins. Where did their love of reality television start & how did this dynamic duo join forces? Then, in celebration of twenty years of Housewives, they lead you on a journey of highs, and some would say lows, of Housewives moments throughout the years. The Erins are convinced these highlights would make anyone a Housewives fan, but if they don't please come back for episode three.
Hi, I'm Erin. And I'm Erin. It's time to air it out.
SPEAKER_12Hello. Hello, people. It's been a long time coming. We have arrived. We have arrived.
SPEAKER_11It's been a long time coming. Welcome to Erin It Out.
SPEAKER_12So official. Here we are. The podcast for all your Bravo, reality TV, pop culture, hot takes. Maybe not so hot takes, but we're here. And as we are business women, entrepreneurs, if you will. Entrepreneurs, we are supporting a Bravo business. Yes. Loverboy.
SPEAKER_11We have our if you know, you know. Carl's a mess merch on. It's very nice. Okay. If you are not aware of what Carl's Mess means, just look it up. Okay? It's regarding Summer House. It's very funny. And it just gave me so much joy.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And I just have the standard lover boy, summer should be fun, hoodie on because just the standard. I mean the color.
SPEAKER_11The font. Say what you will about Amanda Batula. She has good design taste. She does. I have to say.
SPEAKER_12But it wouldn't have been anywhere. Minus the pun. Wouldn't have been anywhere if Kyle didn't coin the iconic phrase that summer should be fun. Very true.
SPEAKER_11Or Carl's a mess.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. Why don't we introduce ourselves and inform the audience a little bit about the errands, your hosts. How about you kick us off? Where are you from? ASL.
SPEAKER_11Ooh, a little ASL throwback. Okay, so age, sex, location, for those of you who don't know that that means it's a throwback to the AOL chat rooms back in the day.
SPEAKER_12That we should not have been on.
SPEAKER_11No, it was actually very creepy. I don't think anything creepy happened, but it was very creepy. Probably things happened that were creepy to others. Yes. Okay. Very creepy times. This is before we had internet literacy situation with parenting. Okay. Age 37, I think. Sometimes I think I'm older and I get confused. Sex. Female. Location, Seattle. And that's where I was born and raised in the area. Okay. I'm not claiming to be from the city. I'm from a small town called Snoqualmie, Washington. Very small town. Okay.
SPEAKER_12It has a nice waterfall.
SPEAKER_11Great waterfall. When I grew up, there was 1,500 people. Okay. Now there's like 10,000. So it's a big town for us now.
SPEAKER_12Up and coming.
SPEAKER_11Up and coming.
SPEAKER_12And I'm assuming you got into reality television not being on it, but loving it because there was only 1,500 people in Snow Call Me, Washington. 100%. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11There was only 1,500 people. Although we had a great old time, don't get me wrong. Of course. However, I will say I started watching reality TV. I remember watching The Real World in, I think, fourth or fifth grade, way too young. Way too young. Yeah. Of course I was sneaking it when my parents weren't around or whatever. But ever since it was the real world, it was road rules. It was that was like the beginning of reality TV. So I but ever since then, my entire life, I have loved reality TV. It's been my outlet, it's been humor, it's been the thing that I do at night when I want to relax, all of that stuff. And I feel like only recently-ish, the last maybe 10 years, I've just owned that fact. And reality TV has become a lot more popular and accepted. But up until then, it was very ew, you watch reality TV, you must not be smart.
SPEAKER_12A guilty pleasure.
SPEAKER_11A guilty pleasure, which actually some of the smartest people I know watch reality TV for a reason, right? It's psychology. Reality TV is a mirror.
SPEAKER_12Yes, it's a mirror. And what are you up to now?
SPEAKER_11So um not a lot these days. This, this, this is important. So I'm getting my master's right now. I was a hairdresser for I think 12 years, up until last year when I had my baby who's now almost one year old, and I'm getting my master's in couple and family therapy. So I'm on the verge of being a therapist, which is why I want to bring the psychology into it and everything. So I'm part-time student, care for my baby full-time, now part-time podcaster.
SPEAKER_12Going to be full-time.
SPEAKER_11Going to be full-time everything because we're taking this thing to the top. Yeah, it's going to the top. Yeah. Joe Rogan Who?
SPEAKER_12That's right.
SPEAKER_11That's the spirit.
SPEAKER_12Taking him down. Thank God someone has to.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, truly.
SPEAKER_12Okay, so what about you? Uh, we need your ASL. Okay. Well, my name is also Aaron, age 34, going to be 35 next week. I'm a cancer, obviously. Um, in location Seattle, but I'm from Heartland, Wisconsin. Another smallish town, not as small as Snowqualmie, but not a lot are a suburb of Milwaukee, the big city in Wisconsin. And kind of similar to you, I started with MTV, tried and true. I think The Real World Chicago is the first great reality TV show that I have specific memories of watching. Again, obviously did not watch it with my parents, definitely watched it in private because they would not have let me watch that debauchery. They shouldn't have. But also, where were where were they? How did I finagle watching that entire season?
SPEAKER_11That was the days when we could just watch TV.
SPEAKER_12I had a TV in my bedrower. Yeah. That's bedroom. Everyone. Crazy. Crazy. Um, but yeah. Started with MTV, Road Worlds, the challenge, and then obviously Laguna Beach, the hills, all of that. But then I think college is when I really, really dove in. And it's been a love affair ever since. The probably the biggest constant in my life. And now I'm just a corporate girl working in an HR in tech in Seattle, like everyone does if you're in corporate America in Seattle.
SPEAKER_11As the kids say, a corporate baddie, if you will. Oh. Is that what they say? Do they? I heard something about that on TikTok.
SPEAKER_12I think that's what they say. Maybe Gen Z says that. Yeah, it's not, it's not for us. Let the record reflect I do not consider myself to be a baddie, but if someone wants to bestow that title upon me, I I would entertain. You're like Karen Huger. You are bestowed a title. Okay. It was bestowed upon. We love the Grand Damme here. We do. So Aaron and I actually met because she used to be my hairdresser. I was for the longest time. I was newly a transplant to Seattle, needed to fly back home for my cousin's wedding, and I desperately needed a haircut. And landed on a salon. I saw that they had a stylist named Erin and I said, That's the one. That's the one. I followed her to multiple salon locations.
SPEAKER_11You did. Over the river and through the woods.
SPEAKER_12The most dedicated client, probably ever.
SPEAKER_11You're welcome.
SPEAKER_12It's true. I'm grateful. Hashtag blessed. And now we're here. Now we're here. We're real friends. And we needed to start a podcast because we have a lot of thoughts.
SPEAKER_11Yep.
SPEAKER_12It emerged when the West Side story or the scamandal broke. There was a lot to say. The amount of voice notes we were firing back and forth to each other.
SPEAKER_11It was too many.
SPEAKER_12While I was at my job. While I was at my job, mind you.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Multitasking. Multitasking. Okay. You were getting it done.
SPEAKER_12Yes. And when did that happen? End of March? April, May, June. Three months later, here we are.
SPEAKER_11Here we are. We have a backdrop, we have microphones. We get things done. Things are sort of working. We get things done. Yeah, we get things done. Should we share what's in our our love is blind beverages?
SPEAKER_12Yeah. I mean, mine's not super exciting. It's uh it's water. Water is really good.
SPEAKER_11I just peed and my pee was really dark. So I should probably have water. Is that water that you're drinking? This is diet, Dr. Pepper, the best beverage ever known to man.
SPEAKER_12I think that still technically hydrates you.
SPEAKER_11I'll tell myself it does. Yeah. We're women of beverages, we're women of reality TV, pop culture connoisseurs. Pop culture connoisseurs. Um, so that's what we're doing here.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And we're just airing it out. We're airing it out, trying to have, you know, some layers to the conversation. Not just We love a layer. We love a layer, we love nuance. Yep. Think that's something that's severely lacking, and lots of facets of society these days. Nuance, please bring it back. We're not just gonna be recapping things, yeah, giving our opinions, talking about how reality TV shapes the culture, but is reflective of the culture, yeah, and how those dynamics we see play out in the world as well.
SPEAKER_11Yes, but also having fun.
SPEAKER_12Number one priority. No, you know. I mean, this is not a serious face. No. Well, in honor of the 20th season of Real Housewives of Orange County, which I think is a cultural staple when it comes to reality television. I don't think you can have a conversation of reality TV.
SPEAKER_11It's where Bravo began.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, without thinking about the Housewives, especially Orange County. Yeah.
SPEAKER_112006 was it?
SPEAKER_12I mean, that's 20 years ago. It has to be.
SPEAKER_11Thank you.
SPEAKER_12Math.
SPEAKER_11Women and STEM. Women and STEM. Not my strong student. Where were you in 2006? What were you doing with your life?
SPEAKER_12So fall of 2006, I would have been a sophomore in high school.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_12And I was a goodie to choose teacher's pet brown noser. That is me.
SPEAKER_11I pray for my children to be that way.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I mean, I definitely didn't cause my parents' headaches, so you're welcome, Sandy and Mark.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, Sandy and Mark, you wouldn't have liked me.
SPEAKER_12I was just a good Christian girl.
SPEAKER_11She was a Christian woman, and I was the one that would have been screamed at that she's not a Christian.
SPEAKER_04She's not a Christian!
SPEAKER_12We can revisit how I define myself at a later moment.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Because it's probably not that anymore, but you know, that's where I was in 2006. What about you?
SPEAKER_11I graduated high school in 2006, and I was going to college, and I was playing volleyball at the college, so I had a lot of fun doing that. And I was like secretly watching reality TV on the side, because like when you first go to college, you want to be like, I'm the smartest, most different. She's not like other girls. She's studious. She's studious. Oh my god, main character moment. So you're never gonna admit that you like reality TV or whatever. And so I would secretly watch Housewives and secretly watch those things, but I would have never told people about it. I was like, oh, let me read War and Peace or whatever on my spare time.
SPEAKER_12Oh, War and Peace. Yeah, I pretended to read Moby Dick because Matilda read Moby Dick in the movie Matilda.
SPEAKER_11Great movie.
SPEAKER_12And I was like, obviously, I need to read the book about the whale.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_12I think I read the first page.
SPEAKER_11I don't think that book's for me.
SPEAKER_12No.
SPEAKER_11I just see it and I think it's not for me. But I would have done that in college. I mean, I read War and Peace. Like, who the hell reads War and Freakin' Peace these days?
SPEAKER_12Probably a lot of people.
SPEAKER_11Probably a lot of not me. Not Aaron. No, I do read a lot. For the record, I read a lot. Okay. That is not a book for me. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_12Well, the purpose of this first podcast is we want to celebrate All It Is Housewives with the 20th season of Real Houses of Orange County. So we took it upon ourselves to comb through the archives of all the moments, all the drama, all the tears from laughter. So many tears. And sadness. Good and bad. Good and bad. To bring to you, it's hard to say top 10 moments because I truly couldn't, I could not rank rank them. But 10 iconic moments that have happened throughout the world of Real Housewives. Not just Real Housewives of Orange County, but all of the cities. Yep. So we're we're gonna dive in, and I think it's an important thing to know that you don't have to be a real housewives or Bravo super fan to appreciate these things. Like I think when we were going through them, we wanted to objectively pick things that were hilarious, regardless of how much lore or context you have. And I think some really good examples are some classic Housewives taglines have become just part of the cultural lexicon, regardless if you know of Real Housewives or not. For example, there's a couple sounds that have gone viral on TikTok over the past couple years. But if you remember a TikTok sound that goes, It's whack-a-doodle time. It is whack-a-doodle time. That's a quote from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It is Louis Serena. It's whack-a-doodle time. It is whack-a-doodle time. There also is one that goes, Today drained me.
SPEAKER_05Mm-mm. Today drained me.
SPEAKER_11That's how I felt today. It's how I feel every day. My other favorite is that a lot of people that was a TikTok viral sound that a lot of people didn't know early pandemic was waking up in the moaning. Oh my god. Thinking about the many things. How can I forget one Gia Judice?
SPEAKER_12Judice? I was about to say Jiu J, because when they tried to be full Italian that one time, but that's not how they actually pronounce her last name.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. She was a little child and she sang that at this televised gathering, and it was really funny.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, because she was torn up about her mom and her uncle fighting.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Sad. So yeah. She was waking up in the morning thinking about so many things. So many things, don't we all? Thinking about so many things.
SPEAKER_03Wow. Like that I do my G pretty well.
SPEAKER_12My God.
SPEAKER_03In the morning, thinking about so many things.
SPEAKER_12So all that to say is if you are nervous about listening to the podcast because you don't watch a lot of Bravo, don't watch a lot of reality TV, we think there's a place for you here still. Yep, exactly. If you just need to listen, unwind, want to laugh or giggle a little bit, we're your gals. And we think we've curated a nice list. Yep. So again, disclaimer this is definitely not all-encompassing.
SPEAKER_11No.
SPEAKER_12But we think it's a well-rounded assortment.
SPEAKER_11Yes. We're gonna go chronologically. All right. Okay, number one, first on the list, 2007, season two, episode two. We have Vicky and the family van. If you know, you know. I would say this one for me was it just brought back such funny memories, and she's so iconic in her craziness that we had to include it. Yeah. So basically, they're taking a family vehicle to go on a cruise, and they have brought too many bags, and she's stressing.
SPEAKER_12She's calling the car service, and she's very unhappy because how the heck are they all gonna get to the airport?
SPEAKER_11How are they gonna get to the airport?
SPEAKER_04Listen to me. This is not funny. We are going on a cruise. This is not funny. You have a little family van. When do you ever bring a family van to pick up six people? Okay? This is ridiculous. You guys are everywhere. Why are you sending a family van?
SPEAKER_14Honey, we're just gonna make this work. I'll be a little bit, you know? Okay.
SPEAKER_12And you know what? Victoria Gunvelson has not changed a day since she's been. Her face has changed. There have been many iterations of her face. Yep. But I think that's that's one of the best things. The housewives that have stood the test of time, they are who they are who they are. To their core. And how she presented herself in season two, I just know is exactly what we're going to get in season 20.
SPEAKER_11And because for those of you who don't know, she was taken off the show here for the last few years, and then she's being brought back on. Yeah. This season. With Tamra. Tamra's still on, right? She sure is. Past right now. Is Tamara? Is Gretchen still on there?
SPEAKER_12I don't think Gretchen's coming back. Ever Du Bro. Okay. Fancy's always going to be there. Emily and Gina, which they're all. Can we not there's yeah.
SPEAKER_11I there's a lot of there's a lot of people who who agree with that statement.
SPEAKER_12Shannon Storm's Bador.
SPEAKER_11We love Shannon in this house.
SPEAKER_12We love Shannon Stormsbadour. And then I think a new gal that I don't know whose name is.
SPEAKER_11Interesting.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I know there's one new person that seems to pick a fight with Vicky, which is on brand.
SPEAKER_11Well, that's not great. I applaud anyone for trying to go head to head with Vicky Gunbelson.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_11One thing you need to know about Vicky is she is a working gal.
SPEAKER_12She owns she loves to work. And she will ask you if you work and what you do for work. And if you don't work, she's gonna ask you what you do because you don't work. Really has a strong work ethic, that one. And if you don't live and have the same perspective on those things as she does, she questions you. Which I think is why that clip is so funny. Because she was like, Well, obviously, there are six people, 12 bags. Why do you bring this dinky van? Like, this is not how logical working people would perform this task.
SPEAKER_11No, and you are performing it wrong. She would question me in my life right now.
SPEAKER_12Oh my god, she would question so many things about my life, but you know, that's okay.
SPEAKER_11She can question away.
SPEAKER_12I question a lot about her life. Oh. So there's that. Oh my god. Yeah, there's so much we could get into with Vicky.
SPEAKER_11And we will eventually, you know, especially as the season s progresses, which we will be talking about.
SPEAKER_12Okay, shall we um number two is Real Housewives of Atlanta. We're taking it to the south. Yep. Um, this is season three, episode five from the year 2010. The year of our Lord, 2010. It involves one Phaedra Parks, who is an icon. Sorry. It was an icon in Real Housewives. She is this is was her first season on the show, and she's pregnant. And there is some questions that people have about her pregnancy journey.
SPEAKER_11Yep. And so here they are at lunch, and they're kind of all being polite southern women dancing around the weirdness of her due date.
SPEAKER_13Panger, when was your due date? And it was July, but this baby getting ready to come up out of here. July? I thought you were five months pregnant. Yeah, my due date was July 26th to August 1st. But then dangerous to have a baby at 6th to seven months. Not if everything's fully formed. It's not a function.
SPEAKER_05I never heard of no doctor.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. I think it's really weird when Phaedra really couldn't give me a due date.
SPEAKER_13But you've sitting on my bladder. So I've had um a couple weeks ago, I had a lot of bleeding. Bleeding? Yeah.
SPEAKER_09One thing I can do is add add. And what Phaedra say? I add enough.
SPEAKER_13So you're really like more like six-month? I don't know. I know he they're gonna do that 34 weeks. So 34 weeks is when he's gonna fuck.
SPEAKER_08Oh shut up!
SPEAKER_05That is so stupid. Look, chicks from the hood, honey, don't even know who they're pregnant by, and they know how far they are. It was either not his baby or she got pregnant before she got married.
SPEAKER_11And that's that. There is so much to that clip. My favorite is the trumpet sound in the background.
SPEAKER_12Yes. The early production and sound effects that they put on shows is really funny. Watch back. But you watch clips from Atlanta and you are just reminded how stacked that cast is. We have we have Phaedra.
SPEAKER_11I don't know what we had when we had it at that era.
SPEAKER_12Queen Lenetia Leaks.
SPEAKER_11May we never forget. Maybe never forget. Linny Leaks, for me personally, this is my all-time favorite housewife.
SPEAKER_12Agreed, 100%.
SPEAKER_11She is bar none, the best housewife to ever live, funniest, everything all of the above love her.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. But as I've never had a child or been pregnant, as someone you that has had a child, everything that Phaser was saying is just so insane, right?
SPEAKER_11It's very insane. It's it's akin to, and I know this happens, but it's very similar to me when people are like, I didn't know I was pregnant. You knew you're like everyone knows they're pregnant. And yes, I know that this can happen and you don't have symptoms and whatever. I don't, it's I I don't get it. This is how I feel about this. This is just that the math ain't mathing, and she is lying. You go to the doctor, every single time you go to the doctor, they talk about your due date. It's on the forms, you have to repeat your due date to them. It's all about these milestones of due date and everything.
SPEAKER_12But don't worry, if the lungs are fully formed, they can come out whenever.
SPEAKER_11And it's funny because they aren't fully formed until 34 or 35 weeks. So that's why it's scary to have a baby super early. It's funny because that I forgot that this was her first season. This makes sense. I think this is one of those examples of she really thought she could get away with not saying the truth and stuff, and then you can't do that.
SPEAKER_12No, you can't across the board, like no your castmates see through it, the audience sees through it, and you don't have longevity if you're not being honest. Because what's the point of you being on a reality television show if you're not going to be real?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, exactly. So that's our number two, which Phaedra, we love Phaedra. We I love the entire cast of Atlanta. That was the heyday for Atlanta first, maybe four or five seasons. Yeah, and then I dropped off a little bit because it started to get not as interesting to me. Now I'm feeling like, okay, I'm ready to get back into it. I've heard it's very good. You're watching it.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I hope. Yep. Love Atlanta. Those are my gals.
SPEAKER_11I watched the first two episodes of this season and I was like, yes, we are.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. I mean, Porsche's back, Phaedra is back.
SPEAKER_11I love Porsche. Yeah. I love Porsche so much.
SPEAKER_12Our next clip, we're gonna keep it in Atlanta. It is season six, episode five from the year of 2013, the year I graduated. College. We were just talking about how Nene is our number one housewife of all time. This clip is Nene at her peak. She is throwing the shade at another housewife, Kenya, who is a very divisive character in the world. What are your thoughts about Kenya? Kenya, I put in the same category as I do Candace Dillard Bassett. Okay. She's a real housewife from Potomac. In that I think she intentionally goes too low. She's one of those people that says, I can say whatever I want because they're just words. It doesn't matter. And you can say whatever you want back to me as long as it's just words. Because then I think back to that reunion clip when her and Portia get into an altercation, right? There's a little bit of violence there. And it's hard because I think some of the best housewife moments are because of Kenya, like Kenya more hair care.
SPEAKER_11Do you know what that is? That's when she went, was that when she went into some kind of event or something like that? Yeah. Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_12Yep. Yeah. So you can't take away her ability to create a moment and be iconic, but she's she's a hard one for me across the board.
SPEAKER_11I agree. I think she's a hard one for me because I find her in and of herself uninteresting. And her life. I I don't enjoy, I don't I don't feel like her life is real.
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SPEAKER_05Ah, the ghetto. The ghetto. The ghetto. Are you dressed off? Where you live in? You look good. What is this, honey?
SPEAKER_06I had to move out of Kanye's house of horse. I thought this was the best option for me on a short notice.
SPEAKER_05This is not where I live. This is my live, honey. Let me see what's going on. Oh, David, show me around. Let me see. I was shocked, honey. I was in tears almost. And it has a white refrigerator. I was like, oh, not a white refrigerator. Girl, please put your shoes on. Let's go find you a home, honey. Oh, Lord. Kenya, what is going on up in here? This is where I've been. This ain crazy lady stuff. Let me see, y'all. Kenya is in a 2.3-star hotel. She definitely didn't want to pay over. $1.29 a night. Okay, Kenya. I've called my realtor and we're gonna go look at some places. And I also have a helicopter on the roof to take us up at this camp. Okay. Who knew we were gonna be twirling back to the hood?
SPEAKER_11And and that's that. Iconic. There's so much to unpack there. Yep. She put white refrigerators out of business.
SPEAKER_12I unfortunately have a white refrigerator at my apartment.
SPEAKER_11You know what? I have a white freezer in this room in the corner. But I do have that quote printed out and framed. On the white refrigerator? Yeah. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_12Just need to call it out.
SPEAKER_11And that's on awareness. That's on self-awareness. Yeah. What else do you have to unpack in the case? The background music. Again. And the adding in like the ambulance noise and everything is so funny to me. The best part of the whole thing for me. You don't think that that was live? It maybe, but I would not be surprised if they added that in there.
SPEAKER_12See, I'm so naive. I just assumed that was what was going on in the world when Nini got out of her car.
SPEAKER_11And then, oh my god.
SPEAKER_12Never even thought about that. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_11And Nini being in the highest heels ever. And then also Nini saying a 2.3 star hotel, which is so funny and so accurate. And sometimes, and I've watched that clip a lot of times, because my favorite thing to do whenever I need a laugh is to just look up Nini Leek's videos, sound clips, biwig, if you know you know. What else does she have? Close your legs to married men.
SPEAKER_12Bling bling. Bitches is mad when she gets the watch.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god. That is so it's getting weird.
SPEAKER_11But I gotta get this watch.
SPEAKER_05It's getting weird. Look, I still need to get this watch. Bling bling bling. Bitches is mad.
SPEAKER_12Okay, what's our next one? We're taking it back to Real Housewives of Orange County and taking it back to the beach. To Vicki Gumbelson. So we'll set the scene. This is going to be season seven, finale episode, episode 20, in the year 2014. We are at Heather DuBrot's house. If you don't know who Heather DuBrot is, which I don't know if you do or not, but she's married to Terry DuBreaux, who is a plastic surgeon. He's been actually a lot himself on a lot of reality television. I don't know if anyone remembers the show The Swan from back in the day.
SPEAKER_11That's where you gotta start and botched. He was unbotched, but that was but Swan is diabolical.
SPEAKER_12They would they took women that were quote unquote ugly and literally give them a full makeover, like head-to-toe plastic surgery, haircut. I don't know, they probably took them shopping, got them every different diet, everything. And at the end, they would do the reveal and they turned into a swan. So many things. There's so many things wrong with that. But Terry was one of the plastic surgeons on that show. And so they amassed a huge amount of wealth. She came how there can then came on Real Houseways of Orange County. And I think all of them, obviously, living in Orange County are wealthy, right? They have money, but she definitely was on a different tier than all of them. Their house was huge on a huge cliff overlooking the ocean. Anyway, their money confuses me and concerns me. Yeah, because I'm also like from being a plastic surgeon.
SPEAKER_11They must have family money. Yeah. That's my theory.
SPEAKER_12That in a yeah, yeah. Yeah. The finale was at their house. They were hosting a party. There's a lot of shenanigans that happened. That's when that chick Sarah ripped the bow off of Heather's cake. That caused the whole thing.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, do not rip a bow off of Heather Dubot's cake. Yeah. Everyone.
SPEAKER_12But this was also the time when Vicky was dating a man named Brooks. And I'm sure we will get into the lore of Brooks' airs at some point in this podcast. Notorious B-R-O-O-K-E. S. He, to not bury the lead, lied about having cancer. Um, which is diabolical. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Um straight up fabricated and was caught.
SPEAKER_12This episode was early on in their relationship, and there were definitely some red flags that a lot of the women were feeling. And Vicky was best friends with a housewife named Tamara for a while. And Tamara was calling it like she seed it with Brooks, and Vicky did not like that. Which made her reach her boiling point and led to this next scene. Yes.
SPEAKER_11So it's a bit of a three, it's a three-part clip because I have a few, so here we go.
SPEAKER_04Tamara, what are you doing? We're friends. He just said three times. Eddie, can you give me Tamara? No, Mike, you're wrong. I don't have him to take control of me. You said three times she gave me the evil eye. Did you not say that, Brooks? Did you say that?
SPEAKER_09When you give her the evil eye, I will take care of it.
SPEAKER_04Okay, but you're being disrespectful. You don't have to be my friend! No matter what! You don't talk the way to me or him! Ever!
SPEAKER_08You're supposed to be my friend!
SPEAKER_04My my friend, my soulmate, my sister! Get out that way! That means you have respect for the man I love! Brooks. I said, I don't think that he's good for you. How do you know what's good for me? That's my opinion.
SPEAKER_12The whole Brooks saga lasted far too long. Way too long. It just makes me sad because she clearly was desperate for love and affection and companionship that she would be willing to go to the bottom of the barrel.
SPEAKER_11The bottom of the barrel. Also, I'd like to note that everyone at this party has fur coats on. Was the theme fur, or was this just at a time in Orange County where if you went to a fancy thing at night outside, you wore a fur coat?
SPEAKER_12Well, so this is funny that we're talking about this now because last night I actually I actually watched this episode of the friend soulmate sister moment. As Vicky and Brooks were getting ready to leave depart for the party, Brooks shows up and bestows the fur coat on Vicky.
SPEAKER_10And she was like, This is the gift.
SPEAKER_12Oh my gosh, on camera gift. I've never owned a fur before, and obviously everyone is side-eyeing like Vicky probably bought that for herself. Yeah. And had Brooks give it to her on camera to buy some goodwill from the fans because this man was probably from goodwill, if he bought it himself, which he didn't. Which he definitely didn't because he's he's broke, he moved in with Vicky, she was paying for him, he wasn't paying child support, so he does not have money, did not have money to buy her a real fur.
SPEAKER_11Absolutely not. Yeah. No. What did the fur coat come in when he gave it to her?
SPEAKER_12It was just on a hanger.
SPEAKER_11That's so crazy. That was literally in her closet. Probably. Yeah. Just in her wow. Um, did we ever find did Vicky ever talk about Brooks after the fact that he was an asshole or anything, or was did we just move on?
SPEAKER_12I I think she did. There was something. It wasn't a huge discussion, but it was a yeah, I was blinded by love, essentially. Interesting. Remember when they I think they were there had to be more than they were in Mexico. It's back when Blonde Bronwyn was on Orange County. Oh Lord and they were all, I think, in Mexico for something, and Vicky was yelling on the street, I was conned.
SPEAKER_11Yes.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, that's that was essentially her.
SPEAKER_11I feel like Vicky would never admit to it.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_11To being conned because there's no way that man did not con her. There is absolutely no way. But she wouldn't admit to that because she's the one who judges women for being not having jobs and like she was saying she was conned in that episode. Yeah. But I think she kept the reality under wraps. Yeah. She could have said more about it.
SPEAKER_12I think that it was easier to say that she was conned over admitting that she went along with the cancer scam.
SPEAKER_11Okay. Did she know about the cancer scam? Like we know that she knew that it was fake. Or did she believe that he had cancer?
SPEAKER_12I think the general consensus is she believed at first. Okay. But then she probably eventually realized that it was not factual. And she maybe went along with it for longer than she should have. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Thinking it was probably gonna be buried or as soon as you find something that out, you say bye.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And we're done with this relationship.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, she did not do that.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_11Okay, our next one. My god. This one's a doozy. This is probably one of the most iconic scenes ever. Yeah. Scene-wise and audio-wise. We're going back to the East Coast. We're going back.
SPEAKER_12We're all Housewives of New York. Yep. Season six, episode 20. Yep. We're staying in the same year, 2014. 2014, Year of Our Lord. This deals with Aviva. I think she was on. She had two seasons. Two seasons.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. I think she should have stayed on. I think she was great. She was some type of cuckoo, that's for sure. She made great TB. Anyway, she uh had a prosthetic leg. And what happens is they're at a dinner and she's accused accusing Carol Bradswell of having a ghostwriter. So she throws these papers at Carol and is basically she throws her leg, okay? And I want to threw her leg. There's a few things in this scene that are notable. One, Luann is sitting at the head of the table with one of her statement necklaces. And if you know anything about Luann de Lesseps, she loves a statement necklace. And when I say statement, I mean could be the immunity necklace in Survivor. Okay? It's this one in particular is probably like some of the gems and everything are the size of this glass. And she's she loves turquoise. She loves turquoise. She loves her turquoise, loves her topaz. So that's what's going on here. And that's at a New York City dinner. And then the other thing is Aviva has a nice camel-colored, very high stiletto attached to her leg, which honestly very impressive, I have to say. Her ability, I can't walk on a heel like that anymore. So to be able to do that without I mean with a prosthetic leg, amazing. Love it. Okay, so here we go.
SPEAKER_10And you find us really hurtful. I find that laughable. Well, let me tell you something, Heather. The only thing. Keep it together, Aviva.
SPEAKER_01The only thing that is artificial or fake about me. This.
SPEAKER_11And the leg hits the table. And now the leg goes across the room.
SPEAKER_05They say this is the last straw. I mean, this is the last leg.
SPEAKER_11God damn it, Luann. Okay, so someone I know has a prosthetic leg. And I don't know if you're.
SPEAKER_12Have they ever thrown it across a room?
SPEAKER_11Uh no. Okay. Not that I know of. I don't know much about it, but I know it takes a second to take the leg on and off. It's not just a quick boom, the leg is off. My thing that's so funny about this is that she was prepping the leg under the table to get ready. And good for her for making this cinematic moment and for making TV history for us. TV history. And for that, we appreciate Aviva.
SPEAKER_12My favorite part of this clip is after she slams the leg on the table, the camera pan to everyone in the room. Yeah. And catching all of their reactions. Everyone is so aghast at what they just witnessed because how absurd is that. This is why I love this is a body part. It's a body part. It's a literal body part. You can't script this. Like no one, if you're a screenwriter and wanting to write a film, you this is not this is absolutely a time when reality is stranger than fiction. Yep. And I I love it because this wouldn't happen anywhere else.
SPEAKER_11Nowhere else. Nowhere else would this happen. It's so iconic. It's so amazing. It's so mic drop. It's leg drop. It's not even microphone, it's leg drop. It's leg drop. The leg drops. How do you go from there? The moment the night is over.
SPEAKER_12It's over.
SPEAKER_11If someone throws a leg, the night is over. I do think everyone dissipated after that happened. Where I mean, obviously.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_11And the funny thing about these shows is they always have to film in the brightest light and everything. And so they're just having these parties with no music and really bright light. And just imagine that. So just we're setting the scene.
SPEAKER_12Couldn't do it, couldn't be me.
SPEAKER_11And for that, we say thank you, Aviva, for your service.
SPEAKER_12Next one is we are still staying in New York again. This is one from Real Housewives of New York, season 10, episode one. Wow. The season started out with a bang. Yep. The year's 2018. This is with Dorinda Medley, who another very iconic figure. Very iconic. In the Housewives world.
SPEAKER_11I want her to come back. Is she coming back to the next one?
SPEAKER_12The thing, the reboot or whatever they're doing. I don't know who all is part of that Ultimate Girls Trip 20th anniversary. I hope she is.
SPEAKER_11I like her on TV.
SPEAKER_12I think she's funny and I do, I think she. I don't know. She's a tough one for me. Like when she's good, she's good. But I think she's one. I do need some sense of housewives having a finger on the pulse of reality and having a bit of self-reflection.
SPEAKER_11That's not her.
SPEAKER_12That is not her. And when you try, not even like criticize her, but when you try to give her feedback, she gets mean in a very defensive way. Yeah. And that to me is really off-putting.
SPEAKER_11And there's always a little alcohol mixed in there. And so the slurring and the defense. Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. But she has one of my two of my favorite quotes of all time from Mo Housewives. One is money talks but wealth whispers. It's what I aspire to be. Same. And then the other one is say it, forget it, write it, regret it. So honestly, just what some children need to know these days. Just some wise and sage life advice from Dorinda. So I think ultimately I would choose to have her back on my screen, yes. But um, this is a Halloween party, this clip.
SPEAKER_11Something like that. Yeah. Dorinda is, she's had some really funny moments where she's been extremely wasted. This is her describing how she obtained her dress, which is Lady Gaga bubble dress. That's all you need to know. And here we go.
SPEAKER_05I'll turn that back back and stay in my apartment.
SPEAKER_14I'll do that out. I'll make a roast chicken. I'll get two bottles, uh, four bottles of gray wine, and we'll sit there, close the door.
SPEAKER_13Okay, we'll tell our deepest, darkest secrets, and then go to sleep in my bed. Okay. Watch ghost hunters. Yeah, ghost hunter.
SPEAKER_01On a scale from one to drunk, Durinda's like an ape.
SPEAKER_03How'd you all the bubble? I had the guy from SNL, Saturday Night Live, who did it for Andy Andy Sandberg.
SPEAKER_14The NSL person made it for me. He's now where he was listening to.
SPEAKER_04Adam Sandler's thing did it for me. Adam Sandler stained it for me. Anna Sandberg's thing did it for me.
SPEAKER_14The guy that did it did my dress. Good.
SPEAKER_04We lost a couple of bubbles. Dorinda's blackout. It doesn't matter what we do, because Dorinda's not gonna remember any of it, so it's yes, let's go.
SPEAKER_00Oh god. I'm telling you that that that orange bubbly drink was not nice. Good night, ladies.
unknownGood night.
SPEAKER_04Dorinda has no wig and no bubbles. I'm taking your bubbles home.
SPEAKER_05How about that hostess? All right, come on, baby. I want to sing. Let's go to a girl.
SPEAKER_11And Luann says, I want to sing. Let's go to a Goku bar. She's clearly wasted. Also, she is dressed as Diana Ross. Luanne is a white woman. She is dressed as Diana Ross. Is it black? In every way. In every way. In every way, including darkening the color of her skin to a tan level that's clearly to emulate the skin color of Diana Ross. It was problematic.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And obviously none of them called her out on it because why would they? None of them called her out on it. I wish I was more on. I've recently gotten into Reddit. Not recently, maybe in like the last year or so, year and a half. Um, love a subreddit, love scrolling those comments. I really wish I would have been active on Reddit when this aired because I would have loved to see what the internet had to say.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. I also think that the fact they're in New York City is important because in New York, I've noticed from the time I've spent there, it's you can actually say anything in New York. And it doesn't make it so people are agreeing with you and think it's okay. But people just see crazy shit all day long in New York City, and there's all different political angles, there's people from all over the world. So it actually doesn't surprise me that this happened in New York and nobody said anything because people just live and let live there to a point where you're like, okay, that's crazy. And that is what was going on.
SPEAKER_12All right, for this next clip, we're keeping it on the east coast, but we're just going a little bit south. East. I don't actually know the geography of New Jersey.
SPEAKER_11New Jersey is east. East. We're going to New Jersey. North. Northeast? I don't know. Sorry. New Jersey.
SPEAKER_12First on the East Coast. Yeah. We are season nine, episode 15, season finale. We are in the year of 2019. They're at some party. I can't remember whose event it was. Context around it.
SPEAKER_11Just one of those housewife moments where they're at a thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_12This is a season where a problematic housewife from the first two seasons returns.
SPEAKER_11Her name is Danielle Staub. And why is she problematic, Danielle? I don't know much about her. I I'm not in deep in the lore of New Jersey.
SPEAKER_12Uh well, she was the one, she's the one that caused Teresa to do the table flip. She their problem with her at the beginning was uh essentially lying about her life, probably had some nefarious connections to some not so good people, caused a scene at the Manzo's family business. They just really didn't like her. Honestly, probably all of those reasons. Don't think it had to have been as dramatic the first couple seasons as it needed to be. But remember the first reunion with for season one of New Jersey when Caroline was like, You know what you did. Yeah, I don't remember what the rumor is that she did, but it was something with the Manzo family.
SPEAKER_11People are deep in the mob lore and all of that stuff. So I think when Caroline's saying that, it's something very dark and not just like you said something or you did you killed someone or you know, whatever. So ever since then, she's allegedly not saying that about Danielle. I'm just saying mob vibes.
SPEAKER_12She did something, and then she just was cast as this overall bad, evil, nefarious person. And then she came back, kind of had an alliance with Teresa, which we can all have our thoughts about Teresa. I do identify as a tree hugger, sorry. I feel neutral about her. I think she makes good TV. Oh, interesting. Okay, that will be a good conversation at some point. But Danielle is causing a ruckus at this party, and another housewife, Margaret, needs to take it into her own hands.
SPEAKER_11And she sure does by putting her husband in the pool.
SPEAKER_13Hold on a second. What just happened?
SPEAKER_06That's not good. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_13That's my point. You can emasculate mother. I think you're the one emasculated now, shad. Your husband's in the pool.
SPEAKER_01What? Who threw my husband in the pool? Me and my husband.
SPEAKER_11It's so funny.
SPEAKER_12So funny. Because it's such a silly thing to have happen. Yes. And then the accent, your husband's in the pool.
SPEAKER_11Me and my husband. And then she just walks away. It's so nonchalant. Funny. Yeah. I so because I'm not deep in the lore, I see Margaret. Yep. Yes. On social media and everything, and I see clips of her and I've seen her here and there. I think I like her. What do you she seems like good TV? I don't know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_12I think objectively you can say she's good TV. I, because again, I identify as a tree hugger, which is a fan of Teresa Judeis, which is, I think, a unpopular opinion. We love an unpopular opinion. That's all good with us. In the last few seasons, Margaret lost the plot a bit for me. New Jersey's been off for a bit of time, so nothing's fresh and super fresh in my mind. But just the way her and Teresa were battling, I think Margaret held on to maybe some stuff longer than she needed to and was just being difficult. And honestly, I probably feel those way that way because I'm a fan of Teresa. If I wasn't a fan of Teresa, I could see how I would be ten toes down, obsessed with Margaret all the time. She's quite a character, Margaret. Yeah. She has some good lines, definitely iconic, bleach, bleached hair. When she was first on the show, she wore pigtails all the time.
SPEAKER_11Adults with pigtails scare me. Yeah. Pigtail braid is one thing that could work. It's the pigtails without the braid. And you're an adult. That's scary.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And like a real fluffy bang. It was yeah. It was a look, that's for sure. She's got a look. She's got a look. This next one is so important to me. This next one is great TV. It's so pivotal in the world of Housewives that I gifted you a mug with part of this quote on it. Exactly.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. And guess what? I dropped the mug. I've never admitted that to you. Oh my god. I was so sad. Oh no! And it broke, it broke beyond repair. Shattered. Oh my god. And I'm telling you this now. Okay. And I'm sorry. I mean, it's fine. But the mug lives on. Okay. And memory. And the mug is repaired in this podcast. In this moment.
SPEAKER_12Emotionally. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11And that's how much we love this show. Is that I didn't have the heart to tell her that the mug dropped about six months after she gave it to me.
SPEAKER_12Oh, it's quick.
SPEAKER_11That's not that quick for me, unfortunately. I was pretty impressed that I could I'm I'm I dropped it. Clumsy.
SPEAKER_12Okay. All that to say, we are taking it back west and we are going to Salt Lake City. Season four, episode three. We'll say probably 2023. That feels right. They are all in Palm Springs on a little cash trip. A couple of the wives are are beefing. And again, alcohol is involved because one isn't it. And a housewife, Meredith, just has some things to say. Yep.
SPEAKER_11And I'd like to point out a couple things happening. I'm going to play three different short clips from this. The first one is pointing out the fact that they all wore outfits that were chosen by someone else. And if you know anything about Salt Lake City, you know that Mary Cosby has some very iconic lines. And I just wanted to play this one that happened right before what is known widely in the Bravo community as rumors and nastiness. So we'll start here with Miss Cosby. We're entering, we're in Palm Springs, we're on a trip. We are entering the dinner.
SPEAKER_09Lisa, whoever big ties your outfit, they don't like you. Like you should know that going forward.
SPEAKER_14You're being very rude. Well, you can leave then. No, Meredith. I'm not leaving. If it's not your dinner, you can leave. I'm not leaving. You were not invited by me. You can go. What is your issue with me? Why do you want to be here? You're just user. I user. You don't want to even start with me, sweetie pie. I just get out. Don't tell me what to say.
SPEAKER_03This is lame and embarrassing for you. Oh my god. I'm not interested.
SPEAKER_14You're fing embarrassing. And I'm going to tell you.
SPEAKER_02Excuse me, sir. Can we get security, please? Can we get security? She refuses to leave. I'm going to tell you what. Excuse me. She needs to leave. I'm the hostess of the dinner, and she is her behavior's unacceptable. I'd like for her to leave.
SPEAKER_05I'll do whatever I can.
SPEAKER_00I'm five espresso martinis in, but even I know that that guy is the waiter, not security.
SPEAKER_11That English out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Okay, and this, so that wasn't even the rumors and nastiness part. Now we are in the actual part.
SPEAKER_03Like, no, if I want to go for the jugular and talk about this the rumors and nastiness about her, we can do that. You know what? You want me to go there with her husband? I can go there. Joe. With me. Okay. Tell her to tell her to fuck off.
SPEAKER_11She goes, tell her to fuck off. The New York comes out, and we have the English. Nastiness. I really got that one down. The rumors and the nastiness. Okay, and then I must play. So that was very social media iconic when it came out. And there were lots of remixes and such. I think this one's the most popular, which was created by T. Kyle on TikTok. And it geniusly mixed the Lindsay Lohan song, Rumors, with the phrase from Meredith Marks.
SPEAKER_03The rumors, the nastiness, the rumors, the nastiness. You want me to go there with a husband? I can go there.
SPEAKER_08The rumors.
SPEAKER_03You can.
SPEAKER_11The rumors. The nastiness.
SPEAKER_12Oh my god. Wow. Salt Lake.
SPEAKER_11That's why we do what we do with people. Salt Lake was an instant hit. Just right from the beginning. Salt Lake is reminds me of Rhode Island. Yep. In that it's just comedy. And that's what I love about it, is it's pure comedy. Of course, there's like darkness in there and there's whatever, but it's not this, it's everything is just light. Like it's just funny. And these women, they don't, they go to like these god-awful locations. Like they're in parking lots, they're in whatever, and they're just so funny that it doesn't matter. It does not matter where they are. They are just killing it.
SPEAKER_12Okay, next, back to the East Coast. This time in Miami. R.I.P. All right. Is it on pause? It's on pause. My theory is allegedly it's on pause because of Todd's lawsuit against Bravo. And his whole issue is the way he was talked about and mentioned. And so obviously that that's a big part of Alexia's life. They can't filming right now because they got in trouble. That's why there's a lawsuit because of him.
SPEAKER_11So there is currently a lawsuit against Bravo.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I think Todd filed it. So that's my theory, the why it's on pause, because I don't they want to clear that up before they move forward.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_12That's uh again, unverified. But all that to say, this is a clip from season seven, part two of the reunion. Pretty recent, last year, 2025. Um backstory is it's a fight between two housewives, Adriana and Julia, who were longtime friends. Julia was kind of one of Adriana's only partners in crime on the show. Like she really had severed relationships with the rest of the women. But this past most recent season, their relationship became fraught. And it started the season started off when they were on rocky ground, and it just got worse. And then it came to a head at the reunion where they were each talking about some decisions that they made in their private lives, and Adriana takes it to a place that I again don't think anyone could have imagined up. No, they couldn't have.
SPEAKER_11Is it true that there was some affair going on with Julia?
SPEAKER_12And well, that's that's what she says that her and Adriana were having a tryst. They're having a trist, and then Julia is married to a woman.
SPEAKER_11Yes.
SPEAKER_12Adriana, as far as we know, has always presented herself in straight relationships.
SPEAKER_11Is she married?
SPEAKER_12I don't think she's married. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11But she has she has been with men, yes, publicly. Okay. Okay, and so Adriana is talking, is spilling the tea about Julia right now. And I without we don't need any more introduction. We're just gonna say we're just gonna go in.
SPEAKER_07She was in a bad place. She was in a bad place. She was cheating on Martina with a Haitian mortician. That's when you told me everything. You were with a Haitian mortician. You should take him to the motel, pay for the motel, bank the champagne, and had to give him a coffee machine as a gift. You forgot about that little bit.
SPEAKER_11Is it the coffee machine for you? Because it is for me.
SPEAKER_12She had to give him a coffee machine as a gift. Had to.
SPEAKER_11Also, I love how it's a Haitian mortician. Yeah. For some reason, we needed the nationality, and then the fact that he's a mortician is so funny to this whole thing. And if he is a mortician, why does he need a coffee maker?
SPEAKER_12I don't none of it.
SPEAKER_11They're just not one in the hotel room. None of it makes sense. None of it.
SPEAKER_12Which is why it's so great.
SPEAKER_11It's so funny. It's so funny. Okay, the last one on our list, the most recent one.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, this is crazy that we're already at the end. I know going back to Salt Lake. But going back to Salt Lake, this most recent season six, episode five. There are two housewives. My one of my the icons of my life, baby gorgeous Lisa Barlow. You do love a Lisa Moment. Love Elisa Moment. Um, she's fighting with Angie, who is who Meredith was fighting with in the earlier clip that we played. So Angie likes to get herself in the mix, you know. And they are at an event and they're arguing, and there's some miscommunication of what they're trying to argue about. And it was really funny.
SPEAKER_11It was really funny. And this is one of our a little bit of our we have two, it's a two-part clip, and it's just so good, and so many gems in there. This argument makes no sense. They're I don't even know what they're arguing about. It doesn't matter. What matters is more just the pettiness, the level of pettiness that they're out petting each other is so funny. So here we go.
SPEAKER_14You're jealous of my face now. Oh my gosh. This is Angie! You're so jealous. You look like you've been in a wind tunnel. Listen, do you want me to go dark with you? Do you want to go finging dark? You want to stand up? What are you standing on, Shorty? Are you taller than me? I am. No, you're not. By at least three inches. Shorty.
SPEAKER_11My good shorty, shorty. And then we have a part two.
SPEAKER_04Such a whole time. Did you just shop? Honey, I don't shop there, but you do. You don't shop at Nordstrom? Your boyfriend does. What about Soupman, bitch? What about Soupman, bitch?
SPEAKER_02What is Soupman? What is a fing soup man? Isn't there some like Seinfeld thing with soup? Soupman? I'm starving.
SPEAKER_00Come over to the water. I don't know what soup man in the world.
unknownWho is Soup Man?
SPEAKER_14I think that's a question for Terrence.
SPEAKER_04What's Soup Man say it, Lisa? Angie, shut your fing mouth.
SPEAKER_12Not the Nordstrom shade.
SPEAKER_11I was not loving the Nordstrom shade as our, you know, our hometown company over here. I was dying over every single thing in that. Yeah. Angie is throwing black cards on the table. We have Heather who's always just has never seen anything in her life ever. It's like, wow, is that a black card? Oh my god. I don't get me started on Heather Gay.
SPEAKER_12Can you give us a 30-second quick read on Heather? I think Heather is the grown-up version of someone that's in their early 20s, that peaked in high school, that likes to say, I'm not like other girls. She is the adult version of that. I don't think she's funny. No. I think she lives her life like it's a bit, but it's she's serious about it. And I think she's just trying too hard. It worked the first season of Housewives because it was novel, it was new, we didn't know her, but she's kept this shtick going, and I'm over it.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I could see that. It's I I think the comedy's run out. I want to see, I want to see a little more of a real side to her.
SPEAKER_12Right, and that's the thing. She all that's why I was so annoyed again, because she was arguing with my number one Lisa Barlow. So I'm in defense mode. I'm a cancer. I have defense of people that I love, and obviously I love Baby Gorgeous. Baby Gorgeous. She was yelling because she wanted realness from Lisa, but she herself isn't real. It's all a facade. I don't know who Heather is at the core, except that she's a bad Mormon, which again, shtick.
SPEAKER_11She tends to, I'd say she tends to decide on a plot that she wants to reveal or perpetuate, and then she continues to do so. At the she's very committed to kind of making her her sound clips and her viral moments and everything, because we all know Reseates Timeline screenshots. Great moment, hilarious. However, it's like she's trying to do that again and again, and I find it really disingenuous. And I don't, I don't really get who she is. I don't understand that. I get that she has religious trauma, I get all of these things, but she is very like, I think your point is good. She's kind of stuck in the past, and I would be curious to know more about that. Yeah. I think she's trying to live in this evolved way, but actually that she thinks is evolved, but she's just copying others thinking that she's but she's not actually doing what's like right for her.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_12And that was a little tangent on Heather Gay. Yeah. But back to Soup Man.
SPEAKER_11So funny.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. I think she meant to say suit man.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, that's what she said later. It was suit man.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_11But the fact that it just kept being soup man is so funny.
SPEAKER_12And was it Mary that said who's suitman? I'm hungry.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Incredible.
SPEAKER_11Amazing.
SPEAKER_12That's our list. And that and we did it. So if that hasn't convinced you to watch Housewives, if you don't already watch Housewives, I'm not sure what else will. Actually, probably a lot of things, but I love a stroll down memory lane.
SPEAKER_11It's such a good stroll down memory lane. And it was so fun putting these clips together. Yeah. It was so fun looking into them and having all these memories come back. And seeing clips that like I had never, because I don't watch a lot of New Jersey, I had never seen the Your Husbands in a pool in the pool. Like tragedy. And it was so funny. I'm glad.
SPEAKER_12And so that's the intro to us. And the podcast, I think you can expect from here on out weekly episodes. But talking about the current shows. Yep.
SPEAKER_10Reality TV. Reality TV. But whatever's going on in the world. Whatever's going on in the world.
SPEAKER_12Obviously, we love a pop culture moment. Reality TV forms a lot of pop culture or informs it, I should say. Yeah, we're just gonna be talking about the weekly happenings, our thoughts and opinions, because again, the world needs more of those. Yeah. Especially from us.
SPEAKER_11One thing I have, it's an opinion. Yeah. That's my opinion. In the words of what's her face.
SPEAKER_12Camera. Yeah. What a full circle moment. You know.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Great.
SPEAKER_11So there we go. Ta ta for now.
SPEAKER_12Ta ta for now. Don't forget, it's always a great time to air it out.