DFW is the center of Logistics in N.A.

Today we examine which metropolitan area is the primary logistics hub of the United States, and which is the primary logistics hub for North America.

The assessment is based on infrastructure, warehousing and distribution capacity, all modes of transportation, and the concentration of shippers, third-party logistics providers, brokers, and carriers.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Listen up, Jack Knuckle. The truckheads are coming. Lock up your Twinkies.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Another kid. You're in Texas now, bro. What is this?

SPEAKER_00 0:30

OSU. Ohio State. What is up, everybody?

SPEAKER_01 0:35

I am Hob Tastic, and this is the Dude, and this is another episode of Truckheads. Truckheads. Welcome, welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Welcome, welcome. It is an upset. Yeah, an upset. It's an upset. It's an upset. What's an upset? Your stomach? I'll tell you what's an upset, my friend. Everybody's talked about Chicago. You know Chicago? Chicago? That rambling town. Chicago. What's your favorite Chicago tune? You know, I've never been to it. Is it like Chicago, that rambling town, or like sweet home Chicago? No.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

My favorite Chicago tune is If You Need Me Now.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

I see what you did there. Very hysterical. My favorite one that involves Chicago is Jesus Just Left Chicago. Yeshua? I've never heard that one. What? Play it. Find it. No, we don't have time for that. You don't really? No. Trace Amigos? Trace Hombres? The Three Amigos? No, what is it? Trace Hombres? Is that the album? The Three Amigos.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Z Z Top. Oh, I thought you meant the movie. Dude, I love that movie. I'm gonna go home and watch it tonight. All right. So what is this about Chicago? I have a Pletra of France. I have a Pletra of Chicago freight.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

No, everybody look, Chicago, right? Logistics capital in the United States. And then we started the whole thing with Freight Alley because, you know, which is there's a lot of freight and stuff like that. Right. And things, but and and it is as far as movement of freight, like I think 120% of all the freight in the United States moves through Chicago. Through Chicago? Or through uh Channel. Like a huge amount because CB5 hits and all this kind of stuff. The main quarter. Because it's a main quarter from the northeast down into Atlanta and through into the So it's north, southeutheast and west, or is it north-south? Well, it's like Chicago, Kansas City, Memphis to like Baltimore, New Jersey. All of that funnels down through it into when you if you're going into Atlanta with major stuff. Yeah. So it's all coming from the East Coast, Freight Alley. So we call it Freight Alley. But as far as the concentration of like the logistics companies, it is not Freight Alley. Freight Alley's might as well be Topeka, Kansas. Right. It's just not a bunch. It doesn't even make the list. You want to hear the list? I want to hear it. Right now, the top ones. I want to hear the list. And look, we're talking about highway access, rail density, uh construction, pipelines, absorption of inventory, warehouse inventory, access to ports, air cargo, uh, three PLs, brokers, carriers, everything. The whole circus of logistics. Okay. Numeral You said railway, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Because railway's huge.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah, and rail ports and inland airports. You know, obviously, inland airports are not usually out in the ocean unless you're Japan or something like that, and you're building them. But uh, yeah, and and even ocean ports. Right. It is Dallas Fort Worth. Number one. Dallas Fort Worth is number one. Number one. Can you say that one more time? Dallas Fort Worth is number one. The big D is number one. The big D is number one.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Number one. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Yes. Fact-check that. Oh, wait. Let me check my facts. Dallas was Fort Worth is number one.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

There it is.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Oh DFW. The more you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

That that that noise is when he gets fact-checked, and it is correct.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

That's that's can we fact check that one more time? Yes, it is Dell. There you go. See? All right. Perhaps you didn't hear me. I said it. That's the fact. You win. There you go. I win. I got the microphone. What's number two? I got the microphone. Greater LA. Which in port, like so Port of Long Beach, LA. Yeah. LA and the Inland Empire. Massive.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Wait, hold on. Isn't LA? I thought they were landlocked. Landlocks on the ocean. Landlocks on the ocean. That's why I said land. So like Oh, they can't expand everywhere. No, yeah, as far as that's why we're number one. No, it's not. Because we have compound warehouses, compounds.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Okay, number number one would be well, part of the reason is is LA or Dallas, Fort Worth, is because you got land. Right. I mean, right? I live 20, I literally takes me 17 minutes to get here. I'm like 25 minutes from downtown Fort Worth, right? Okay, but I'm literally on the edge of nothing. But would you say that? You're not hitting anything to get like Seattle or like uh you know Saskatchewan. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Well, would you say we have a plethora of land?

SPEAKER_00 4:57

Yes. Nice. I don't know if that deserved a rimshot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

All right. And then so LA.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

And then Chicago.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

And so Chicago's third.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Third. Do you hear that? Third. Fourth is Phoenix.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Phoenix?

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Yeah. Fifth is a tie. Four. Atlanta and Houston. Okay. Houston's on the on the Gulf. Yeah. Okay, talk to us about Phoenix, though. Why? Why Phoenix? Uh proximity to LA and growing. And from Mexico. And land. Right? Phoenix. But what they none of them, any of them have none of them have what Dallas Fort Worth has, which is the combination of everything. Right? Okay. It's the land. It is the central to the United States population and market. But it's also the center of North American hub. So you take uh the United States, Canada, and Mexico into account, it's Dallas.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

It's Dallas for World. Well, because we have a straight shot down, also, straight down to Toledo, straight down to Mexico. Everywhere. So Dallas is sitting on 600 plus million square feet of distribution space in some of those rankings. So this is why probably you're saying, you know, why we've moved to number one. We've got 600 million square feet of warehouse space, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

And it's going up about 120, 110 million square feet added between 2019 and 2023. 2023. The biggest pipeline in the country right now is 28, 29, sometimes 31 million. Okay, 31 million under construction right now of warehouse space distribution. So I think the reason why, like you, you actually talked about this right before we went on the air. I did so. Where you're living, where where Michael is living now, he says Do not give away my address. I'm not giving away this 13042 Justin Road. Um he is he's dealing with it firsthand. He's seen it with his first hand. I've seen it for a while because I've been here for a while. But I mean, these warehouses and distribution centers are popping up like left and right. Like almost every week you drive down, and it's like a million square feet for lease, and then within like a week it's taken. Like somebody's in it.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

At any given time, there's 31. I'm trying to control the cameras at the same time. Oh, yeah. At any given time, there's 31, almost 31 million square feet under construction. Right. And it's all being filled as it's. I mean, they don't need to keep building it and it's empty. Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Well, that's the thing, is that that's what's kind of telling, right? So we had the boom. Do you remember the boom of this? And now we're catching up. So we had the boom of all this warehouse space when they were constructing, constructing, and then they were sitting there, like COVID area around the city. COVID era. Hey, this is gonna last forever. Let's build a ton of warehouses. Right. So they built a bunch of warehouses and they just sat there for a while. But now we're playing catch-up. Now these warehouses are being filled. Left and right. They're being and that's where we're at. That's why we I think that's why. And they're still building.

SPEAKER_00 8:01

DFW is is moved to the well everybody's moving here too. Like if you if you look at things, it's not like look, they're not moving, leaving California, going to Chicago. No. Nobody's leaving the East Coast and going to Chicago. Nope. Or even Chattanooga or Atlanta. They're going to guess yeah. Tejas. Tejas. Yep. Because we have such great food here. I don't, you know what I went. Look, yesterday, you've been to a Brazilian steakhouse. You've been like Brazilian steakhouse? I'm hooked on them. Okay. So what my wife and daughter found was a Brazilian steakhouse style pizzeria. What? Yeah. Wait, De Lucas? Yeah. It's right over across the ground from the club. Yes, yes, De Lucas. Freaking crazy. They're incredible. You go in there and you say, look, I want all you can eat, meatballs and pizza. Wait, I've never been there.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

I've heard.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

That's good. I was there yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

So I'm on the carnivore diet. All I eat is meat, so I can't have pizza. Meatballs.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

If they have meatballs, I will go. They also have a uh pizza called the carnivore. Shut up. Yeah, they do. Are you serious? I yeah, my wife, well, my wife said, they got this pizza called the cannibal, and I was like, that's probably not right. It's got human meat in it. It's most likely not a cannibal. It is not human meat. I'm not sure, but it's probably not. But no, seriously, Alliance Airport is right here. It's a beast. Yep. Okay. For there is there's probably 599 million of the 600 million square feet of warehouses. Just right here in Alliance. It's like huge. And you if if you just drive by the airport or you or you just stand there and observe, which you can't from right outside. I mean, right next to it, right? And you watch it. It's like watching uh Atlanta, the airport of the commercial just passenger traffic coming in. You can see three or four freighters lined up in the sky at any given time. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

You would think you were looking at DFW airport, but it's not. It's Little Alliance. Right, yeah, which is not little. Because you know, you you drive to Grapevine and you you're driving through Grapevine and you can literally see planes just lined up. You just watch them right into DFW. But you drive up here to Alliance, and it's I mean, my studio is right by right by um the flight path, right? So even just sitting at my desk looking out the window, you just see three or four of them in America. What is it? America, prime, prime, prime, like you know, the Amazon, Amazon freighters, you know, just coming in. And then you'll have, you know, two or three F-18s just buzz. Yeah, yeah, like about every half hour they they take off the F-18s. It's loud. And so we couldn't do the podcast there because it was constant F-18 flights. But that's what I'm saying is that that Alliance Airport has been just buzzing. And I think that's one of the biggest reasons why, you know, the DFW area is blowing up so much.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Yeah, if you're if you're if you're if you're a a 3PL um broker, yeah, broker. Right. Yep. Uh and you're not paying attention to here, you're insane. No. You're crazy. Yeah, if you're still stuck on Chicago, you've got to that ramble and time.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

You've got to pivot. Like you've got to be able to see where where you know, like futures. Remember, we talked about gas features. You've got to be able to see futures and see where things are going and see, okay, I need to pivot. Even if it means sometimes, well, because we're seeing a lot of offices and a lot of companies moving their headquarters operations to the Dallas Fort Worth area. We've seen tremendous.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Because the headquarters are over there, but all the distribution stuff is in like North Fort Worth.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Yeah, but even the headquarters. I mean, you've seen how many how many people are moving operations to Plano, Frisco, yeah, and McKinney area. There's a lot going on over there. You know, there's a lot. Because it's just it makes it easier when you've got your distribution, you've got your headquarters in the same vicinity with you know 60 miles square miles. You know, you're right by there.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

It's awesome. Look, if you buy things on Amazon and you want really fast service, you should live in like Justin, Texas. It's true.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Most of the stuff I most of the stuff I get to order is here like the next day, if not the same day. You don't get that kind of distribution, folks, if you're not living in a huge home.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Once got something before I ordered it. Because it knows your history. That one deserved it. Here's the other thing, though, rail. Holy crap. Just an air freighter, but rail. There's so much rail here, it's unbelievable. And like what the route I take home, I go like just graze the airport, the north end of the airport. Yep. There's gotta be. This isn't considered warehousing, but there's gotta be a couple, probably close to, and I'm not exaggerating, I'm trying to be accurate as possible. A little over a million square feet of WebTech. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

I've dri I've driven by there. They have their trains out there. I've actually stopped by pulled my camera out and take some shots. They have some really beautiful um locomotives there, the web tech ones were.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Yeah, you know what's really cool is the is uh if you go there in the evening or at night, and they'll have there's that one building there that has like probably 30 dock uh doors on it, bay doors, and you go through there and you just see all the locomotives inside there working, working on the locomotives.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Not to get off topic, but do they build them there?

SPEAKER_00 13:13

They've serviced and I'm not sure if they're building. They're definitely servicing them working on brakes and different truck trains.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

I would love to get a like a cool hey, can you get a tour? We're going, bro. And we can yeah, because we can interview them and say, hey, talk to us about Hell yeah. You do you think they're gonna turn away the truck heads?

SPEAKER_00 13:29

No, they're not true. As long as we bring the sheep, we're good. Bring the sheep. Yeah, the sheep.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

But LA Inland, still Empire?

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Empire. The inland empire is massive.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Yeah, LA.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

It is.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

LA, so I mean, they've got, like you said, they've got the ports.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Oh, the port's crazy there. I mean, LA and Long Beach area.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

I wonder how close LA and DFW are now.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Now on the, you know, now I know we're number one. But it's taking everything into account. Right. If you're talking about, you know, like, you know, port training. Oh, okay, okay. So it's it's a it's like total logistics in general is what we're talking about here. Everything in general, yeah. Right, is is is here. That's why I'm talking about it. Three PLs and and headquarters and all that kind of stuff is is definitely here. Okay, so let's look at uh 10-year trend, right? Well, let's see.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

I mean, we're still young, so we're gonna live to see it. Hopefully, if the world isn't implode by then.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Well, I mean, like you said before, over the last 10 years, Dallas Fort Worth has has put more pure distribution real estate into the market space than anybody else has. And it's had because I mean investment by the United States and trade, it just makes sense because of North America. And then your your uh your domestic movement and logistics benefits from all that kind of stuff and supports it as well. It just makes perfect sense.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Like manufacturing has moved here. So we've got some pretty big manufacturers that have moved in the area as well with with these big warehouses. Okay, let me ask you real quick, Mike. Lay it on me, bro. So have you driven, have you had the chance to drive south yet at all? Like towards Austin or San Antonio in the area? Not since I moved here.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Okay, so but I've been in those areas over the years.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Okay, so more recently, since Tesla has now built that huge, what's what do they call it? Giga factory, or I don't know. Yeah, something. This thing is that where they pump out the gigs? They they pump the gigs. Doug gigs are there. Doug gigs. But this place is massive, dude. Like when you drive through, you drive by it, because it's right off the highway. Yeah, you're driving by it and it starts. You're like, oh wow, look at this big guy's factory. No, seriously, it's just like you drive and drive, it's like, when is this thing gonna end? I mean, this is a huge building. I I don't know the size of it. Maybe you all can tell us in the comments, but it is massive. Yeah, massive. And he chose Texas. Over well, he left California and came here to do it. Right, exactly. California's a bunch of idiots. And that's that's one of the biggest companies in North America, in the world. Yeah, you know, it's SpaceX, Tesla. Who owns that? The whole conglomerate.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Who owns that is that Muskie? Elon Muskie.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Elon Muskie?

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Elon Muskie.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

You know, I would love to go and take a another Tesla, please we can go get a tour of the Tesla factory. That'd be kind of cool. Because it's it's here. Well, you know, it'd be fun to see how they move their inventory. Yeah, no, we'll go through it around, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah. No, I mean, this is look, it it grows and grows and grows. So, okay, Laredo. Largest port in the United States is Laredo. I mean, come on. So they're not moving out of Laredo and going to the Inland Empire. Right. Right? And then it's not coming out of Laredo and then going direct to the customer. Right. It's got it transships, it goes to distribution warehouses and all that other kind of stuff. So it's hidden here. Right. Right? I mean, I'm sure some of it moves to other places and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Now again, see, I like to get down to the root of it. So why Laredo?

unknown 16:48

Right?

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Mexico. Construct or manufacturing in Mexico. Right. So all okay, so that's the thing is the manufacturing that is going on in Mexico. Okay, they've chosen, like it always interests me, like, who chose Laredo? Because you know, there's other, like El Paso, for example. You know, that's where I'm from. El Paso is a is another big thing. Chico Tacos. Chico Stacos, we talked about that. Chico. This show is brought to you by Chico. Logistics that goes on in El Paso. Yeah. So it makes you wonder like, well, why didn't why not? Well, there was why not Juat is Mexico.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

You're right, but I mean it comes down to it comes down to the infrastructure was there. They did it first, one. Uh where the where the where the infrastructure within Mexico lines up with the infrastructure in the United States as far as moving stuff, rail and truck. Right. Right, your surface transportation stuff. But then it also then it comes down to local municipality um you know efforts, sure. Business development, that type of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Because I know I know that El Paso is a is a pretty big hub as well, as far as logistics. They have a lot that goes through there. Um they the miners. Yeah. The UTIP miners are in El Paso. That's a the University of Texas in El Paso. Um, coincidentally, is one of the places that my son is looking at. How funny. Why are they the miners? Like, because it's a huge mountain, yeah. Is it a huge mountain? Yeah. The actual campus is built into a mountain. It's a beautiful campus. Gorgeous campus. Um, beautiful, beautiful campus. But that's the thing, is like I said, in El Paso, you've got Fort Bliss, you know, Fort Bliss, one of the biggest military army bases in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, home of the Patriot. You know, so they're out there, and you know, you've got the corridor right into New Mexico, you know, the corridor that goes right into New Mexico up by the Rockies. So, you know, Texas is happening, man. Texas is a happening state for logistics, for everything. We've got it. And we've got the belt.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Look, they're not uh LA's not disappearing, Chicago's not disappearing, not saying any of that stuff. Right. The the the rail and that type of stuff from the Chicago rail yards, that type of stuff is not going away anytime soon, right? Right. It doesn't, you don't just pick up and move. Right. And it it depends on the, you know, I mean, there's just there's geography and where all the construction is. But things are changing, right? Right. And when you take in in LA, we're not suddenly, you know, Dallas Fort Worth isn't gonna suddenly start having, you know, uh massive cargo ships through a canal come up here and that type of thing, right? We're not gonna have but it it is not in the next 10 years, at least. Not probably not in the next 10 years, but over the next 10 years, it continues to be the number one, the trends because of logistics as a whole. LA ports still probably gonna be king. Right. We've got people growing, Houston is growing massively, uh, very quickly. Yeah, Savannah's growing massively, other ports are growing massively, with you know, as far as the the ocean container and that type of type of thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

But but what about Phoenix, man? Phoenix on a percentage basis alone? The growth in Phoenix? I mean, we're talking about the inventory grew like 40% for Phoenix. Um yeah, it's it's just crazy right here. That's crazy. In some windows, right? Houston kept chugging with the port, obviously. Chicago, LA are still huge, like we were talking about, but they weren't growing at the same rate as Phoenix. So Phoenix has been growing has 40% growth. So Yeah, but they were smaller to begin with. That's why they're still done. They were still small, but still, 40% is that's not that's no laughing matter. That's nothing to turn your nose at. I mean, that's a pretty big growth.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

It's almost irresponsible. It's almost you can't, you know what I mean? Well, you can't keep up with it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Well, the infrastructure of Phoenix can't keep up with it.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

But it's infrastructure growth we're talking about. No, it's inventory growth you're talking about, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Yes, but I'm talking about the infrastructure to hold that kind of those kind of numbers. Because because you've got to look at it, it's not just the growth, like even here in DFW, right? We've grown to be number one. Yeah. And we've had growing pains because all these warehouses warehouses are going up, you've got a lot of commerce going in, you've got a lot of stuff. Well, what about our highways? You know, what about all the infrastructure that that has to support that kind of traffic through here? Yeah, for sure. And so a city like Phoenix, and you see that kind of growth basically overnight, you know, what kind of pains, what kind of growing pains are they having?

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Huge pains. They can have huge pains there, but they can also have huge benefits. Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

Well, I think I know jobs also. I mean, everything moves. Well, I mean, in the brokers, L3PLs, everything's gonna be the political environment has a lot to do with it, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:24

I mean, everybody's getting the hell out of LA and California. I mean, that's why well, yeah. I mean, you look at Reno, uh, you know, and you have the distribution hubs all along the Nevada, uh, California uh state lines and also um Arizona as well. Get it the hell out of there, then start distributing a weight out.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

That's the thing is like Texas is is strategically placed so well for the logistics hub. We've got so we've got what 35 north and south. We've got the whole corridor of of I-35. And then east to west we've got I ten, we've got I-20. We've got major, you know, freeways or cor corridors that yeah basically take care of all of that. Yeah. Which is why Texas, I think, is is booming in this industry.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Well, it's also in the political climate. It's very, very friendly for you to come here and and start a business. Yeah. Start a business, a distribution business, a logistics business, or any other business. Capitalism. Responsible capitalism. Responsible capitalism. Amen. Because it's the American dream. It is. And it builds everything. Right. You can't. You tax it, it will leave. Right? Overtax it. Tax it. Over tax it. Ray.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

And they will leave. But we also have some of the best roads in the country.

unknown 22:45

Texas.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Yeah. Texas is known for that.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

I talked about it when I was when I first when I moved out, I drove by U-Haul out here. Yeah. Yeah. 20 is a is a is a it's a it's a cow trail until you get to the literally. Yeah. As soon as you cross into Texas, it's beautiful. So this is it is a piece of crap, and people should be shot for not maintaining it.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

This this is my first experience, okay. We drove out a few weeks ago. We went to Gulf Shores. Okay, Alabama. Is that in Balama then? Alabama. We went to Gulf Shores Alabama, but we decided to drive there. Because I wanted to take the kids through a few states. You know, we're gonna go through Mississippi, Louisiana, and then Alabama. So that's when I realized like Is it Louisiana or Louisiana? Louisiana Louisiana. Oh you gotta say Louisiana. Fortru. Fortru. Yeah. You had a poe boy? Louisiana. No, I didn't. I didn't. But see, I lost my train of thought. Oh, so we drove through the, and that's what it made me really appreciate how good we have it in Texas with our highways advanced. Yeah, it's crazy. We cross over the line here in Louisiana. It's complete, you know it immediately. It's gone. What is going on? I mean, it literally is like I think I'm gonna have to give my wife's car a new alignment. We were dodging, you know, small apartments and and talking, you know, because we we we named potholes, right? Oh well, that was a that was a three-bedroom apartment. You know, so but we did hit a few of them.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

And then Mississippi, the same, you know. I'd love to hear the drivers. What do they think about that stuff? Because they gotta do it. I mean, you could close your eyes. Well, don't do that, drivers. Do not close your eyes. You could close your eyes. Don't listen to this guy badly. And and and know as soon as as soon as you leave Texas, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Well, I mean, what does that do to the just the cargo, the trucks? You know, what is it when you're driving on bad roads? What does that just do the overall maintenance?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

So at the very tail of the trailer, suspension, when you hit like a quarter-inch bump, it like triples the weight of the freight in there because of the Yeah, I believe it.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

I've ridden in Carlos's truck before. Carlos Giannis, CEO of Spartan Carrier Group. We went to a conference. Carlos, the good boy, CEO, Spartan Carrier Group. Oh, you just say, Yeah, yeah, let's go to his conference and you'll I'll sit in the back. I'll sit in the back, man. It's just a dodge dually, and man, it's just sitting in the backseat of that thing. And he was laughing the whole way because he knew the back seat is a freaking I was getting beat up, you know, just bouncing. Yeah. Yeah, he had to put a mat down. Doesn't let me sat first. He said, hold on, let me put a towel down. But um we're way off. I take showers on my birthday. But anyways, that being said, like I was saying, the semis, you know, having to travel outside of Texas through those nasty roads everywhere, you know, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Texas You got infrastructure, you got building, you got constant rebirth here, you got the center of of North American freight hub, not to mention the United States freight hub. Um you've got a favorable business climate here. Um it's growing like crazy. Disagree? Disagree. We have decent weather effect.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

We also have decent, we have good weather. It's hot, but it's good weather, so we don't have to you don't have to really worry too much about you know, hurricanes and tsunamis and I mean tornadoes, I mean you get them every once in a while. Whatever. Really the only thing you have to worry about here is just dodge a tornado.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

You so flat eye you can see them from a few.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Just the heat, right? I mean, high energy costs, maybe, if you have to have climate-controlled warehouses, but that's it. That's about it.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Yeah. Everything is great. There's your there's your facts. We thought we'd bring that there. Just a study, see who is where, what's going on, your your freight hub. So you're talking about what would that list again? So it's right now, currently, yeah, Dallas, Fort Worth, Greater LA, Inland Empire, Chicago, Phoenix, Houston, or Atlanta tied for fifth. And as you move forward, Dallas Fort Worth continues to be the location that grows the largest.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

If you're an owner operator, or you have a small fleet, you better not sleep on DFW. No, you better because you miss the boat.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

There is so much freight here, it's absolutely insane, and it's growing like crazy, and and that's the way it is. That is uh that's truckheads, man, doing it to you in your ear hole.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yes, and if you disagree, we'd love to hear about it. Check your ego first, though, and then write in the comments and let us know. Yeah. Do you disagree about it, man? Do you still think Chicago's king? Let us hear about it.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Depends on what it is. Great. Chicago, Chicago, Toddlin Town. Toddlin' town. It's not a rambling town. It's a toddling town. Ramblin' man. Uh Rambling man, toddling town. That's right. Jesus loves Chicago. Thank you, guys. It's well. And low. Have a blessed day. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Have a blessed day. Thanks for hanging out with us today here at Truck Heads. I'm Captain Hoftasic with the Doom.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Peace and love, everybody. Drivers go make a dollar. God bless you. Nice fade, dude. That was sweet.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Via Condio's truckheads.