24.9% of Trucks should be immediately placed OOS!!

And stop with the fake indignation about random checks. Drivers want the unsafe and unqualified off the road.

It boosts safety and pay rates. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Truckheads. Yeah. I'm Hoptastic, and this is the dude, your host today. We're gonna be talking about some serious stuff today.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

I'm excited. But first, yeah, we are gonna talk about some serious stuff, but now we have maybe a little fun. Just a little bit. Thank you guys for joining us today. Yeah, studio. Thank you so much. Thank you all. Thank you. It's so good to see them out there. Thanks, Mom. Hey, thanks. How's it going? Thank Mrs. Mrs. Jeff Tan.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Robert, how are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Thank you to all our friends. It's so great to have you. Karen.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. All right, go on. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

What's up, man? Yeah, today, unsafe at any rate. We got some stuff going down there.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

This is a touchy subject, I think. You think so? I think it is because it affects not just truckers, but I think the four-wheelers, I call them four-wheelers now, right? The people that's a good one. Like most of us that drive just normal four-wheeled vehicles. And some people drive dualies. What are they called? Six wheels. I don't know. Six tires.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Yeah, that's six tires.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

For the dualies. But they're still four wheels. Two axles. So oh, we should call them the old two-axle folks.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Two axles. Two axles. Um two axles. Two axle roads. They I'm sure a lot of two-axle drivers, operators, um, don't have a lot of nice things to say about truckers. They complain a lot about it, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:35

They absolutely do. And it's and it would the interesting thing about this uh to me, and we don't even tell anybody what we're talking about. We're talking about uh the statistics that came out of the Indiana road checks, right? The state of Indiana releases June and July.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Indiana. This year. This is 2026. Yeah. This is like recent. This is not this is not like 2021 or 20. This is this year.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Like the road tech, the the road checks, which are random. So just think about this before we go into this. Just you looking up stats? I am, I am. Okay, fool, cool. Get them get them. Let me just lay this on your mind. Do it in case it's not fully blown yet. Right? Mm-hmm. Um, do you know there's no taglines or anything on your Spartan hat?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

What do you mean, taglines?

SPEAKER_00 2:20

There's nothing on it, it doesn't say Spartan carrier group or anything.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Oh, these are the elite versions. Oh, these are the for these are these are the if you know you know these are these are hats given specifically to those who have circumferences of at least 15 inches in their bicycles, or no greater than you ass.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

No greater than you didn't read the fine print. Um no greater than the statistics.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

What's gonna blow my mind before I lay you down?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Okay, look, lay some numbers down when they do the road check weeks. Yeah, okay, look the dudes who think they're gonna get hit don't drive. So these stats are on trucks that thought they were good.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Wait, whoa, that is my mind is blown. So you're saying, just to be clear, so you guys understand this, these stats that we're looking at are for truckers that thought they were in compliance. Or thought, eh, we'll get stopped. Won't get stopped or in compliance. So this isn't including the truckers that know that they're not in compliance and opted from being out on the road during that time.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Now explain this. So there is a given, there there is a scheduled what check on these. Yeah, it's check weeks. They know it's coming. So they know it's coming. Can you explain that to some of our viewers who don't know what is check week?

SPEAKER_00 3:42

It's check week. The DOTs go out there and they check, they just they start randomly pulling people over. And you know, there's gonna be random roadside checks, and they're gonna stop everybody.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Or they have to stop.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Yeah, oh yeah. So they're not getting pulled over like a lot of people. You don't volunteer, you don't get off. No, you got to, yeah. Oh, okay, okay. So they know it's coming. Yeah, sure. So you I mean you could think about it this way. Are they uh I got reverb going on, don't I? I don't hear it, no. You don't hear reverb in my voice? No. Okay, cool. Maybe it's just I was listening for it, but I don't hear it. Maybe it's just my tonsils, anyways. They so what was I saying? Oh yeah. So the they they think they're good, but perhaps it's the people that don't understand it's check we like they don't understand English or they don't understand it, or they don't understand the the what the regulations are. Well, I mean that could be it. I mean it really could.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

So these people that wouldn't be able to take it or wouldn't be able to to to understand it, are you saying that they would be owner operators that don't know what you're doing over or or hired by because I was gonna say trucking.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

I mean, there's trucking companies that have uh drivers out there that have no name given on their CPS.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Well, I'm saying is like surely these owners are these people who are hiring these would give them a heads up. Well, you would think like, hey, don't get on the road this week. Right. Because I know for a fact that you are not gonna pass the check week.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

So you stay off the road this week. Yeah, and that's a good point.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Because that goes back to them. They're like, hey, well, either way, either it goes back to them or they they're gonna get stopped and take it, take out of taken out of commission anyways. Either way, they're gonna lose a driver.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Yeah, but I mean you okay, but you know, are they doing that on a recorded phone call or a text? Because now that's that's grounds for a nuclear verdict right now.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

That is true because then they they have intents. They knew that they were out of compliance. 100%, dude. Even if you don't get it. I'm sure there's ways around that though. Here's a little note, a little post it. Hey, I'm not gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Well, let's get to the stats. They're gonna blow people's minds. So we've covered who these people are that are getting hit, who these who these drivers, etc. am. This is really this is bad. It's not good at all. I mean, it's dude, the national average is what? 20%. The national average.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

That's not Indiana, that's the country.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

So what we're talking about, the national average is the percent of drivers that hit one of these checkpoints that are immediately put into out of service OOS, right? For either the driver or the truck. The driver's unfit, not capable, doesn't understand English, doesn't know what he's talking about, or is under the influence trashed under the influence. Driving uh with sandals or barefoot. Yeah. Right? Or you got uh no brakes, um, something fairly.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

The tread pattern, the tread on their tires is super low. Yeah, it could be. I mean, under steer tires.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Yes. Yeah. I mean, you kind of need tread to be able to stop and go. Just carry a dime. You just put it in the tread glue.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

I mean, this that's part of the equipment they should be carrying. That's what I used to do. A depth gauge.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

I wonder if we can I put that on the back of a tire on in the in the uh yard on one of the trailers. You know, that'd be interesting. Just to see if they're rotating their tires. Next time we do like our video uh when they say I need 10 more trailers. I go, that one didn't move in three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Next time that we do our interviews, yeah, we go out to there and we kind of secretly go and start measuring random trails. No, no, we're not gonna call anybody out for us. Just like, you know, like just let's see what this trailer does.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Take our own statistics. I think we we wouldn't show the trailer.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

We were not we're not gonna show who's driving. I'd rather just bust a jack knuckle like that guy who was blocking all the lanes for people to get he's a perfect example of someone that did not know the language, too.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Remember? He didn't, he didn't know what we were saying. That was pretty alarming.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

I could tell you what he said, but I'd have to use a offensive Well, we do have Google Translate now.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

What is it? Live translate, AI Live Translate. Anyway, but so 20%. 20%. That's the national average. So though, again, going back, those are the people that got caught. Yeah, those just the people who got caught. That's off.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

I mean, think about that. I don't know if I want to think about it. Why aren't we in the streets going, no?

SPEAKER_01 7:58

I don't know if I want to think about that.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

That's kind of two in 10 trucks that you pass. How many trucks do you pass? Statistically, you're driving past a truck right now that shouldn't be on the road.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

There's trucks everywhere. You drive, you know, just driving. Oh, we live in Fort Worth. We drive from Fort Worth the other day on Saturday. I had to drive from here to Farmers Branch, and there was a section on the highway where it's traffic slowed down, and I was literally surrounded by big trucks. There was one in front of me, one behind me, one of the things. Circling the wagons around you. And they were just like, I was boxed in. I was like, and I thought to myself, man, like if I really had to get out of here in a in a hurry, they these guys could really wreak havoc on me because I'm stuck on all fours of the city.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Box you in. Boxed me in. Box you in. That's four trucks.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

So that maybe one of those is out of compliance, right? Compared to, I mean, not compared to, you know, according to the statistics.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

One of them. One of them may shouldn't be doing that. Nope.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

I think one of them is dangerous. But I bet one of them, I bet all of them or one of them is out of compliance somehow. Yeah. Or is not safe to be on the road.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Because Indiana, when they did theirs, theirs was 24.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

24%. And some change. 24.9. That's 25.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Yeah, it is. It's 25.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

24.9%. Um, Indiana inspected 4,700 trucks, okay, in one month. 4,703 to be exact. They grounded 1,172. That's 24.9%.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Did you just do that in your head?

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

That's impressive.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Well, you know, I am Hispanic. If you okay, now like it says, extrapolate that to the U.S. trucking industry as a whole. And we're looking at roughly, you know, is that what 3.5 million commercial trucks on the road at any time. So right now right now, 3.5 million trucks at any time are on the road. Should be out of service. 20%.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Oh, 20% of 3.5 million should be out of service right now. Should be out of service. Yep. So I can't. That's 700,000 trucks. Now, is that something we really talk about or not? Thanks for texting that to me. You did that right in your head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

So that's normalizing it. I mean, we normalize that because we're not really nobody's really doing anything about it. That's not good. We don't, we what is it? Ignorance is bliss. We're kind of willfully ignorant that there could be a semi-nexus that's about to blow, like the tires about to completely blow off the off the wheel next to us. Yeah, it could happen.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah. Every there's 700,000 trucks at any given time that should not be on the road. Now, here's the thing. When you dig into those statistics, what's it say about the best of the best? Nine percent. The best of the best carriers are only 9% of their fleet should be taken out. It's what they find on average.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

So how do we normalize? How did we end up taking it?

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Only 10% of our drivers suck.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

So how did we normalize 20% in the country is being because it's not, it's not you know what this reminds me of? So this reminds me of like how many animal parts or rodent rodent parts are acceptable in our peanut butter. You know, like the FDA.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Do you know what it is? No, I don't either, but there is an amount.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

There is, yeah. Like parts per million or certain amounts of per per ounce or per jar. And I used to know this because it freaked me out. I don't need peanut butter anymore.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

But is it rodent feces or parts?

SPEAKER_01 11:18

No, it's parts, man, like a tail or a foot that gets, you know, these rodents get thrown in the auger and chopped over with the peanut butter. And we've normalized this.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

It's just the high protein.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

As a society, we've accepted this as normal. Like, man, yeah, there's some there's some bug parts that end up in our peanut butter. As long as I don't, as long as I can't see them, they're mixed in there well, I'm cool. This is kind of the same thing. Yeah, there's 700,000 trucks that are non-compliant.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

My wife and daughter will be dates because they think they're just sweet cockroaches.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

You know, my parents used to tell me that when I was little too. My mom didn't want me eating her dates. Was it dates? And she said, Don't eat them. Those are cockroaches. And I was like five. What would he be singing that if I wasn't Mexican? No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't be singing that.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

I wouldn't. I'm trying to honor your hair. I'm honoring you still. Okay, well, in that case, then I'm you're as Mexican as I am Polish. You're American. You're a Polska. I'm a Polska. Polska. Polska.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

A Polish sausage. But anyway, that's a cabasa. It is a cabasa. Cabeza, not a cabeza. Cabeza's head. Um anyway, so what's a culo?

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Turn the volume over. Is it a wine culo? It's a wine culo.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

No, culo's a butt.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

I know it.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

And a duella.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Back to what?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Duella. Duela? That's nothing. It isn't? No. Isn't that like an Indian holiday?

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Maybe. I'm not Indian. Oh, that's Diwali. Diwali. Yeah, I'm not Indian.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

So anyway. But you play one on TV. I do play one on TV. A few of them.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

You play two or four on TV. On Cinemax.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Okay, so how do these elite logistics companies how are they able to obtain nine percent? What do they do to obtain at least the nine percent in their their own companies? They look the other way, in my opinion. That's way bad. That's still bad.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Well, at least it's not 20%. Yeah, exactly. Um I don't know how they get to twenty, I mean, to nine percent. Well, I mean, they have better maintenance departments, I'm sure. Dedicated maintenance departments. Dedicated maintenance departments, they are spending the money to do that. They have lawyers that are worried about getting nuclear verdicts and they can actually spend the money to worry about them. Right.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Uh well, because it behooves a company to do that. If if if a company, for example, a trucking company gets dinged for, or let's say a c a trucking company has a a truck or a couple of them that get in an accident and kill the you know six people on the road, seven people. Yeah, that's that's gonna come back on the trucking company, and that's gonna be huge for them. Yeah. Because they do carry insurance, obviously, but that's they go for the big pockets. Right. Well, look at us like us. We get in a car accident, what happens to our car insurance?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Goes through the roof of the car.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Or you get dropped, or you get dropped. Yeah. So a trucking company can't afford to have a huge tragedy or some sort of massive accident because they look the other way because your truck was not in compliance.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

100%, but they also have the the bandwidth monetarily to take care of that shit. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

So they know to do it in the front end.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Sure. You got a lot of people out there that are running businesses that have no business being in business. Barrier to entry. People running businesses that have no business doing in business. That's exactly right. I stand by that statement. You can call me yogi berra if you want to. Not not that yogi berra. No. I thought he said yogi bear, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

But so they can't afford to take care of that.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Oh, that was Gumby. No, yeah, that's not. No, Gumby does it. A pokey. He did when it was uh okey. No, no, not when it was home. Eddie Murphy as Gumby.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

It's my show, damn it. He just you don't remember that? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

You just dated yourself so bad. That's like that's like SNL, like 1920. You remembered it. I did. I did. Yeah, when there was still a good show. When it was still a good show, yeah, it's awful now. But okay. Anyways, you were saying is that these trucking companies have the bandwidth to be able to take care of these trucks.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

They do, and they have people who are actually business people and lawyers and maintenance people, right with degrees and theoretically, and and the chops, you know, the street cred to get this stuff done, the knowledge. You and then you've got like guys who've been and gals that have been driving for what maybe 60 hours at a at a low-cost, you know, CDL mill.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Yeah, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 15:58

Right? And they got their own MC, so hey, I'm in business, I know what I'm doing. Right. And next thing you know, they figure out that wait a minute, making the money, or they don't figure out that making the money on this trip to fund the next trip is now you run a business.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Well, no, you can't you can't rub rob uh is it rob Peter to pay for Paul or Pay Paul. Right. Switches they're doing is they're just kind of they're running along and it's almost like living paycheck to paycheck it. They're just you know going to the other. Yeah, and they are. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Which people go, oh, poor them, they're trying. No, that that's danger, man.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

They should not be in business. You don't want it's like an airline. Okay, how about we put it in this context? Now imagine an airline. Well, actually, they may be doing the same thing. I don't know. You guys can call me out on that. Now imagine an airline was doing that with their with their airplanes, right? So, like if they did an audit of how safe or unsafe each airplane is and their pilot and co-pilot, like if how many of them are found out of compliance, that would need to be grounded.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

Like you're talking about an aircraft that is flying 180 people from one, you know, New York to LA or something. And how many of those airplanes, like how how scared would we be now? Because now this is affecting you and me, because we're the ones who ride these airplanes, right? Truckers, it's a it's a truck driver, a truck driver, and maybe his co-pilot. Most of the time they're running solo, sometimes they do teams. So it affects two people, right? The co-pilot's asleep at the back. Exactly. They're asleep or cooking they're cooking eggs in the back. Now, you and I go on a Southwest or American Airlines jet that holds 180 people. We're gonna want to know how many of these jets are are in compliance and how many if would if they would be inspected, would be grounded. Again, we're leaving ignorantly.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

I don't know how many.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

They're like, eh. Their safety record's pretty good. Right. So you're trying, so you're basically you're you're putting faith in in American Airlines that they are keeping up with maintenance on their aircraft.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah. Which is which is the same thing. Now that's why I don't go to Carnival.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Who holds them accountable? That's why I don't go to Carnival.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

They were looking at like a Ferris wheel at Carnival and there's like three bricks and a piece of wood.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Right, and there's bolts missing, and like like on the Ferris wheel, like it's doing this because there's literally bolts missing. Yeah, that's creepy.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, like you don't you don't go on those, like heck, you even like six flags and stuff, they've had accidents and they're a big company. Yeah, and they've got people that check their ride. So that's right. That I feel like there's always gonna be that what if, right? Always. But when you have 24.9% of trucks that were grounded in Indiana alone.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Randomly.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

That's some that's that that's another issue, too. That he's talking about is that's random. Those aren't the people that were out on the road, those are just the ones that got. Not profiling.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Man, that is mind-blowing. It is mind-blowing. Because what are the true numbers then? If they did every single truck. I I don't know. But you know, here's the thing. We're talking about this in support of the drivers and the carriers that are doing it right. Right. Because when we go and we talk to the drivers on our show via recta, straight truth from the straight road. Listen to those drivers. Via recta. What do we hear over and over? How do you fix the industry? What does management need to look at? Get the safe unprofessional, unsafe drivers off the office. Get the unsafe drivers off the road.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

They we've heard this numerous times from the truckers that we've interviewed at the pilot down, you know, down the ways. Yeah. They all say the same thing. Hey, how can we fix it? Well, management needs to do something about the unsafe drivers. That's their motto is safety first. And luckily, we every single truck driver that we've interviewed has that said the same thing at one point or the other.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

So they said, No, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

I know, I I don't I don't understand the question. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

I don't understand. And then they understand and they run.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Sir, do you know your name? Um name given. No name given on your paperwork. And then they run. They actually they try to beat him with a club and then run away, but Michael's pretty fascinating. That's how you do it. Yeah, I do. Michael was pretty fascinating. I have never beat a driver with a club. No, they try to beat you with a club because you're asking too many people. Oh, now that's true. And then you were like, well, that is, that is. They took off back to their back to their trailer and took off. Smack me in the knee with a tire. I got it on film. Um But these, you know, but that's the basically what you're saying is these drivers are the good ones, are the ones voicing like, hey, we need to get these people. Because they're giving us a bad name. They're giving the this is what the drivers are.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

And it's all, yeah. Well, here's the thing. And and when you talk to them, they'll say that, right? And then you ask them the reasons why. And they'll go through the reasons why. Like uh Tommy, remember Tommy last week, my man Tommy, the really tall guy who's like five, three. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. Um, but he got in a truck and you go, How's he driving that thing?

SPEAKER_01 20:38

I want to know. It reminded me of the Goonies when he had the no, no, Indiana Jones with the bit that block on his foot. You know, like in the middle of the phone. Yeah, the little kid. Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones. Okay, Tommy was a good one.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

But no, Tommy was a good one, yeah. No, Tommy was fantastic. He was like, Look, barrier and he it was I'm paraphrasing everything, but barrier to injury is an issue for safety and for pay. How do you keep the good drivers improve safety and improve? Okay, right. How do you do that? You can nail both of them by keeping the people who should not be driving off the road. Why are they on the road? Because you got CDL mills. Right? Pumping pumping labor in. You can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Well, that's the that's the age-old problem, right? I mean, it's the same thing with like illegal immigration. You've got illegal immigrants that come and be and the a lot of the like the construction people, yeah, companies, they know they're illegal. So they know, hey, you keep your mouth shut and you take what I give you, type of attitude, right? Where where you're gonna get paid less because you're illegal and you don't wanna get caught and you don't say anything. So you take the money from under the table at a lesser rate than the people who are here legally, and they just have to take it. The abuse, they have to take it and the unfairness. You know, is that happening in the trucking world where you have these illegal truck drivers that Like, hey, you know what? I can't say nothing. I got a job. I'm truck driving a truck. They're paying me way less than they're paying, you know, my colleagues that are, you know, legal residents and have a valid CDL. But I got it, I can't say nothing because I'm getting paid cash and I need to support my family because I I'm living in this country illegally. So it's the same old thing. You know, it's just a different thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

There's people who say, well, they're here illegally. They should just they're bad. They're criminal. Look, we're talking about people who came here and may and maybe illegally, right? They're here illegally. Uh, but we let them in, right? I don't think we should let them in. They should be, you know, sure, due process. Due process and all that kind of stuff. But it's the it's yeah, and that's part of the system. I'm talking about the system broke down. Right. So we gotta fix it. And we can't just say, well, they made it through, so let's just let them go. No, we gotta clean it up, dude. We have to, we can't be clean up.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

We can't just like, oh well, let's go ahead and start fixing it, you know, for the future people that come in. Like, no, we gotta fix it.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

80 80 80-20 rule, right? The middle 80% will react to how you treat the top 10 and the bottom 10. All right. This is one of the there's a million 80-20 rules, but this is one of them, right? Right. So they're either gonna gravitate toward the top or the bottom, depending on how you treat the top and the bottom. Sure. So if you're just like, oh, well, that's okay. Well, the 80%, they may not be like Javier. Captain Hoftastic out there is a great driver. You're not gonna suddenly become a crappy driver. What was that first word you were? Because because I'm allowing people to come in at her bat, but you're not gonna stay in the industry, right? And therefore, that 80% becomes less and less and less as professionals.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Right, yeah. And and a lot of these drivers get out. You know, we talked to a woman, Debbie, and she was fantastic. She'd been driving for what, 15 years. Yeah. And she had, you know, said the same thing. She's like, you know, it's just unsafe drivers. She says, nothing bothers me anymore. Like, I don't get angry because she said the list is too long. Well, it's too long. I mean, she's just jaded, she's jaded by everything that goes wrong. So she she's got the attitude of, like, I'm just gonna keep no pun intended, trucking along um and get my stuff done and just get my work done because there's unfairness that she sees on the road and nonsense that happens, like the moose knuckle that left his trailer out in the middle of the island. I mean, but it happens. So if they're doing that to their drivers, right? So if this driver is doing it to his fellow drivers, leaving his truck parked like that and not giving a crap, imagine how he acts out on the road. You know, imagine how what kind of how he operates, how he conducts his business out on the highways, in our highways, American highways, you know, hauling our products, our stuff around the country amongst our citizens, you know, driving next to a mom with a with a van full of kids, you know, and here's this guy who can't even read English or is his truck is unsafe because of the tire depth or whatever that that can literally implode at any minute. That's the problem, you know. Like we were talking in the beginning of the show, there's a lot of people that don't like truck drivers because you know, some of the bad ones get together. Yeah, because it's because of the bad ones. Give it a bad name. You're driving on the highway. How many times has this happened to you? I know it's happened to you. It's happened to me. You know, you're driving on the highway and there's a huge piece of rubber from a tire that gets kicked up. Road gators and boom, and it hits my windshield or my hood, and it just dented my car and cracked my windshield, or worse, it can, you know, it could cause an accident because you would react to it. Yeah. You know, that's the kind of stuff that you know that yeah, unfortunately it happens, but but you know, these companies are the good ones at least, and the good owner operators are keeping track of their tires. Something so simple as keeping track of all of their tires on their semis.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

It's a it's another cust, it's another cost thing, right? It's money. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

It's money that ride these tires until the very end. Well, yeah, until they literally fly off the trailer.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Well, I mean, you're allowed to do retreats so many times, right? And you you're you're allowed to do that. Sure. Um, and that's what they are. And it's summer months, really, mostly in the south. They heat up and then they're usually while that happens. But um, yeah, the whole thing is is is money. Um, and it it it gives the good drivers a bad. The point is this you see a professional driver, thank them for what they're doing because they really have to deal with so much crap. And if you're running your company, man, treat the good drivers well. You gotta keep your good drivers because they will keep you afloat. They will. And you got to look into where are the right CDL schools that you're hiring drivers from. Yeah, right. Just because they got a CDL from the state does not give you or absolve you of the responsibility to make sure that they're good.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

You know, I used to say you what do you call a doctor that got D's? D's nuts? A doctor. Oh, still a doctor. You know what I'm saying? I mean, hello, a lawyer that got C's is still a lawyer. Still past the bar. Still past the bar. Barely passed it, but he passed it. Yeah, on the fifth, sixth, seventh try. Right. Yeah. So I mean, you gotta look at these and and see it. And and hopefully we'll get to the point where there actually are some regulations on the schools.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Absolutely. I think well that there should be. There should be accreditation that, you know, I don't know how the accreditation would work for different states. Like, I don't know what Indiana's is, you know, off the top of my head, but if that's Indiana, I would really be interested in and looking at other states to see what their numbers are.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Yeah. I want to see what their numbers are for that that's very, it's very vague, it's very wishy-washy what a school has to do. It's just basically prep them so they can pass. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

What do you think? If Indiana is 24.9%, what do you think like Florida is or or Texas?

SPEAKER_00 27:46

I don't know. I know the average is 20 for the entire. So I mean, I don't know if Indiana is one of the worst or not. I don't know who the worst is. We'd have to look that stuff up. You would have to look that up. Um, it's not a reflection on Indiana because those drivers could have all been from Ohio. Right. We don't know. Right. I do.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

But these trucks, they're just pulled, they were just stopped in Indiana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

They're not Indiana carriers or drivers. Right. Yeah, they could have been anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

It just happens that Indiana got the short end of the stick with it.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Because Indiana's doing something. I mean, so bravo to Indiana for doing something. I saw a guy on, well, I said I think I said this, a guy on LinkedIn was like, hey, we're just stopping all the drivers. Well, I hope so. If 25% of them are should be out of service, yeah, that's scary. Immediately uh we should be stopping more of them. And I think that the drivers out there, the professional ones who care, God bless you, and have a great day. I hope you're safe and everything. Yep, they agree with us. Yeah, thank you. Because we talk to them every day.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Oh, yeah, we talk to them, and this is this isn't us just making crap out of our heads. I mean, this is statistics, and this is us going out and trying to get a feel for other drivers to see how they feel about this. And you know, we're not the ones who are just coming up with that.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

This is that one episode that we actually know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

One anything else? Have a great day. Drivers out there doing it right. God bless you, and thank you for your work. You guys are awesome. Uh safe and absolutely profitable miles for you.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Yep. Be safe out there, guys. Thanks for joining us today on Truckheads. Again, I am Hovtastic, and this is the dude.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Doing it to you in your ear.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

That's pretty cool. Yeah, come in. Oh thanks again, guys.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

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