SPEAKER_27 0:00

Yes, yeah, Justice. It's Freedom Friday. I hope you're playing the whole kidney. And I'm wondering uh if any of the foes of the hill have uh showed up here yet. Looking forward to Freedom Friday.

SPEAKER_10 0:16

Bye. If it's big, you don't touch it. That's what I was taught.

SPEAKER_15 0:30

Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:24

It is a Freedom Friday here on the John Justice Show presented by American Experience. John dot justice at AmericanExperiment.org. We made it to Friday. And a Freedom Friday, I think everybody has been anticipating the return, the official return of Freedom Friday. So in studio today, starting right around 6 30, I've actually heard that uh RNC committee man, A.K. Kamara, may be here as early as 6 30 this morning. It's a shock. Producer Isaac is here. Uh Isaac, that doesn't happen, uh that doesn't happen very often. Usually there's a time when A.K. uh says he's gonna show up, and then there's the actual time that A.K. Kamara actually shows up. So I respect that. I think he's very, uh, very excited for Freedom Friday. Max Reimer should be joining him, Representative Max Reimer, shortly, uh actually right around that time uh as well. And I have a stack of items to talk with the crew this morning. Also, uh Catherine Johnson uh should be joining us right around uh seven o'clock, unfortunately. And damn you, Delta, I'm never flying Delta again. So Grace was heading out of town. She's going to Ohio. I have no idea why. Do you know why she's going to Ohio?

SPEAKER_16 4:03

No clue. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

What's in Ohio? Yeah, I don't have no idea because all of her relatives are here. Yeah, I don't know. Like her, isn't her husband's from here, right? She told me. She did? Yeah. Just in one ear and out the other. Totally. Just don't even, don't even. We've had a lot going on, including the hanging of this sign over my shoulder, which was quite the ordeal yesterday for those that are watching on the on the live stream. So unfortunately, she was poised to join us this morning, but Delta went and changed her uh flight. And so uh she's probably you know, she's probably right now at the airport listening to the show.

SPEAKER_16 4:33

Probably.

SPEAKER_06 4:34

In tears, lamenting the fact that she cannot be here for Freedom Friday. That's okay.

SPEAKER_16 4:39

I thought you were gonna say she's lamenting the fact that I don't listen to her.

SPEAKER_06 4:42

Oh. But I think she already realized. Yeah, she knows. I think she already gets that. But that does afford us the opportunity throughout the show today to maybe sneak in even more comments from you on a Freedom Friday on the blaster line. Again, 612-584-4565. If you want to leave a comment at any point during the show this morning.

SPEAKER_24 5:20

But uh trying to have you here for round two, three for a lot of other people.

SPEAKER_06 5:26

Good shows this week. So far. So far, so far. Always a chance to tank them. Remember, you can listen live at AmericanExperiment uh.org. You can also listen uh live on the Mix LR app. Those podcasts after the show are available there on the app as well, along with all of your podcasting uh platforms. Some people have been having difficulty finding the show via podcast. That's okay. It's really easy though. Wherever you go and listen to podcasts, just go and type in, just type in my name. It's that it's really it's really quite that simple. Just type in John J-O-N Justice. You should uh find it there. You were also streaming the show live if you'd like to watch at the uh at to Mn Think Tank uh X page and also on YouTube and Facebook, both Center of the American Experiment and my personal pages is where you can go watch the show. And of course, um when uh when the show wraps up, those videos are uh posted uh so that you can watch the video and the entirety of the show post-show in case you missed uh any portion during the week.

SPEAKER_33 6:28

Hey John, this is Mary from up north just catching up with the show this week. It's been phenomenal. Love the chat, love the flip screen and seeing people live. Just fantastic. It's so great to have you back. Can't wait to have all the drops. Does crack cocaine make you act any different ways? Man, I gotta do that one. Is it safer than alcohol? Probably. Have a great Freedom Friday.

SPEAKER_06 6:51

I don't need drops when I have the uh friends of the show doing them for me. It's been really it's been really interesting from my perspective. I spent the um entire first dry run show going over uh the history of what had transpired, what ended up bringing me here, how the other job uh went away. And during this week, uh it's really been kind of an exploration of how we're going to go and do the show moving forward. It's incredibly liberating being in this format. I've been air checking the shows, because you should do that. Should check your work as a talk show host. Not everybody does, but and often I have a hard time doing that because I don't know what it is I'm going to hear when I go and air check the show. But I came to the realization that so much of the typical radio show formatics I can kind of toss out the window in this new format. And I'm excited to see what becomes of what we're doing uh now. And really, it's only possible because of the support that I've received, the tremendous amount of support that I've received from Center of the American Experiment. And to celebrate uh the official launch week of the John Justice show, head on over to AmericanExperiment.org. We have a merchandise page going up soon. But right now on the merchandise page, uh you can get yourself a uh a John Justice show mug. You can do that. Those are available there. Also on my page, if you make a donation uh to American Experiment, you get a brand new uh embroidered John Justice Show uh hat. They're very, very hot, by the way. Everybody who ordered and already made a donation, all of those hats have gone out um, I believe, yesterday or the day before. So that's pretty so that's pretty cool. So you should be receiving those hats soon. Um but help support the show, uh support what we're doing here as uh we look to grow and see, you know, the potential of what the show can become. And it's really because of you guys who out of the gate this week have been uh going and checking out the show on a daily basis, and I cannot thank you, uh I cannot thank you enough. Let's start here. This is a Freedom Friday. I got a lot of uh interesting stories, both serious and not so serious. An update on the uh Silospora. I finally landed on it, by the way, Isaac. I was having trouble with that word earlier uh earlier, and the reason why was because whatever news source I was using before was spelling it really oddly. They had like a spora in there. Like they added like an extra R-I-A to it. That's annoying. Silospora outbreak. So there's an enduring ripple effect that has been uh taking place because of the uh Silospora uh outbreak connected to uh the shredded lettuce that has sickened thousands of people in the United States. The Associated Press reported that the federal health officials first linked a psylospora's outbreak to the shredded iceberg lettuce served at Taco Bell uh restaurants in uh in Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, and Ohio. Taco Bell is uh projected to see the largest impact uh of the outbreak, which it started in late uh in late June. On July 17th, Taco Bell announced that it had voluntarily removed shredded lettuce supplied by Taylor's Farms from the restaurants nationwide. We talked about this uh earlier uh in the week. However, its uh consumer volume has suffered as early uh excuse me, nearly a week later on July 23rd, Taco Bell experienced a dip in customer traffic at 21%, which is lower than the average across the U.S., the AP noted. Separately, consumer traffic at chopped C-H-O-P-T, a salad focused chain. Oh, that's why I haven't heard of it. Because it's a salad focused chain. I have to laugh though, by the way. Because there's what we have a um there's uh there's a salad focused chain restaurant that's uh that occupies the exact same building as a five guys in Blaine. I can't remember what it's called though. It's like greens and something or other. Those salad places make me laugh though, because you know what makes those salads all great? It's all of the protein and the stuff yet you go and you put on top of it. I'm reminded of the ads. You're you're probably much too young uh to to uh to know what I'm talking about, Isaac. But when I was growing up, we had the PSAs uh that would go out. He had like Schoolhouse Rock, I'm sure you're familiar with Schoolhouse Rock. Yep. Uh but they also had ones that were um regarding condiments on your food. And there was a whole song, Don't Drown Your Food in ketchup and mustard and goo or something like this. Meaning you don't want to go and just, you know, drown your food in sauces and all that. Of course, you know, as a rebellious teen, I did exactly that. I mean, that's what made it taste good. Screw you. I'm only getting the chicken finger so that I can get the buttermilk ranch. I would drink it right out of the container if it was socially acceptable. Not saying that I have though. Uh anyway, uh chopped that salad focused uh chain that uh sparked the tangent I'm currently on. 105 locations. They need to do a better job of advertising. I assume they're just simply not available in Minnesota. That's my that's my guess. Uh they had a decline of 12% as well. Um M Science, another market research company, determined that the weekly spending at the salad chain, sweet green, fell 10 percentage points. Uh compared to 2025. Okay. So why am I bringing all this up? Because I thought it was funny. Uh Taco Bell is trying to win back customers. So they've been doing a bunch of specials. So last week they offered $1 and choritos in a bid to win back customers after experiencing double-digit traffic, uh, double double-digit traffic decline following the outbreak, sourced to that, to that lettuce. So Taco Bell was my go-to for the longest time, like once a week driving home from work. I would, doing that thing with my fingers, reward myself with Taco Bell. It's funny though, because I don't know when it was, and I did not change my ordering habits, but there was a moment when I was driving home because I would, I would, you know, I was it was a luxury. I was buying a few items, usually uh a bean burrito with extra cheese, uh sour cream and no onions. Um, sometimes I would get items off the breakfast menu, but usually involved in that was some type of quesadilla, even either a breakfast quesadilla uh or a uh or a chicken quesadilla because they would do lunch in the afternoons. And Taco Bell is not a sponsor, so they're getting all of this for free, uh, by the way. Uh and then usually I would grab like one more lesser item, you know, sometimes the uh uh the egg and sausage wrap burrito, just really simple. Usually I got about three items. I'm driving home one day and I suddenly realized it's like all these items are almost exactly the same. They're just packaged differently. Like my, you know, uh like if you just get if you get a quesadilla and then you get a chicken burrito, it's just one's a tube and the other one's flat. Do I care? No. Because it's tasty. So um last week, Taco Bell went even further, breaking out an even bigger gun. They offered their signature Mexican pizza for one dollar. They only did it for one day, though. That was on the 28th. So if you were thinking about going and getting one cheap, unfortunately you can't. The deal was available in store or on the Taco Bell app. By the way, you can actually listen to the John Justice show on the Taco Bell app as well. I don't know if anybody knows that or not. Wouldn't that be amazing? Maybe we should work on doing that. All these all the all these places have apps now. Why don't we, you know, why don't we offer free streaming of the show? You know, maybe we need to reach out to Chopped. See if they have an app and they want to stream the John Justice show live on their app. I'm talking enough about their food this morning for crying out loud. They might as well, right? The Mexican pizza typically retails for $5.69? I think it's like a lot. A lot. It's a totally made up thing, by the way. The only reason why they call it a Mexican pizza is because it's shaped in a circle. That's it. They're great. They're I by I couldn't tell you the last time I had a Mexican pizza, but they are fan, they are fantastic. Is that cultural appropriation of Italians, by the way? Like, are there Italians that are upset? Going, I'm never gonna eat a Taco Bell. They culturally appropriated my homeland's signature dish of pizza. That's interesting. No, that's why I'm here, Isaac. I don't know. I feel like we've appropriated it so much already that, you know. Is that what it is? Yeah. Or is it a wash because we're already because the Mexican pizza is already considered like a minority fast food. It's already so already committed to sin. So therefore they're allowed to culturally appropriate. Okay. Customers who join the rewards program can also claim a medium drink for one dollar. I never found the drink promotions at any of these places like worth it. Like whenever somebody's gonna give you a special and they toss in a free drink, I just kind of go, uh, it's it's a drink. I can just have water. Give me something. Oh, that's a bad take. Give me something tangible. Really? You think you that's a bad take? Yeah. You like you like the free drink promotion?

SPEAKER_16 15:58

Yeah. There was nothing like McDonald's $1 any size deal. You could get for a dollar, you could get any size soft drink. It was the best.

SPEAKER_06 16:06

All right, maybe that's maybe uh my protest is personal because I don't do soda anymore. Perhaps that's it.

SPEAKER_16 16:15

Yeah, I don't do soda either. Usually I do lemonade.

SPEAKER_06 16:18

All right. Then I don't know what you're talking about. I can't get behind you.

SPEAKER_16 16:21

I like I like a good lemonade.

SPEAKER_06 16:23

Do you? We do bubblies. We do we do we do. We're we're uh we're a we're a we're a we're a bubbly or sparkling water type uh uh family. We are giving way too many companies free promotion right now. Well, you know, I want to get advertisers on the show. Yeah. Alright. Tell them to email. Yeah, we haven't heard that to the talk back from earlier was like, have you heard from the foes of the show yet? I haven't. I'm I'm waiting. I know they're out there. They're still trying to find the show, too. I yeah, you know, there are there are friends of the show that are having difficulty finding the show, despite our best efforts to let everybody know how to listen. And I have no problem with that, by the way. If you have an issue in, you know, listening to the show, email uh Isaac at no, you can email me, john.justice at american experiment.org. But you make a good point. Like if there are intelligent friends of the show having difficulty finding it, despite all of our efforts to make sure that every that we gave everybody enough places to go and listen to it. I imagine the foes of the show they might never make it. They probably destroyed how many keyboards have been destroyed at this point in time.

SPEAKER_07 17:29

I want to listen, because he makes me so angry and I can't quit him.

SPEAKER_06 17:33

Let's go to the blaster line.

SPEAKER_27 17:36

I must have never seen that food TSA to which you refer to it. Really? Because I used letter as a garner for my ranch route.

SPEAKER_06 17:46

There you go. Yeah. I need to find that. I need to find that. Don't don't drown your don't drown your food. That was uh it was a catchy jingle. Again, I did not abide by it, but I still think about it to uh to this day. Let's go and hear from uh friend of the show, James.

SPEAKER_37 18:02

Good morning, John. I get to hear you live this morning. I'm on my way to Toma. Look atward to Free Gold Friday. And uh hearing all the other friends of the show. You guys have a great day. I'm glad you're on your next stage in life.

SPEAKER_06 18:18

That sounds so final. Your next stage in life. Thank you, James. It's always good to hear from you. Uh, and uh thank you for sending us the blast this morning. Let's go and hear from uh Nancy. Hey, good morning, John. Good to hear from you again.

SPEAKER_11 18:34

Uh software is going up. Great question for you. Are you planning on doing a state fair this year? Do we need to raise money to get you a booth? Hey, awesome to have you back. Have a good day.

SPEAKER_06 18:46

Uh we can always um we can always raise money. Make no mistake. But yes, I will be at the state fair, I believe 29th? Isaac, are you up on that? You're probably not, but I think I'm there on the 29th.

SPEAKER_16 18:56

That sounds right.

SPEAKER_06 18:57

Whatever that Saturday is, I'm 99.9% sure that I'm gonna be at the state fair on the 29th from 11 to 1. The 29th is a Saturday. That is when we have our boost. Okay. So yes, so that is when I will be there and when you can come on by, and hopefully, we will have a um a lot of merchandise to uh to share with you on that day. Uh, a few more items on Taco Bell and then we'll move on. Uh, let's see here. Following the initial uh reports of the outbreak, as mentioned in the previous story, the foot traffic at uh Taco Bell fell. Since then, however, social media discussions have shifted the blame away from Taco Bell and toward Taylor Farms, according to the analytics company Peak uh metrics. Uh, despite the and this is this was the thought that I have. I get to the end of this piece here, and it says, uh, despite the significant short-term impact of the psilospora outbreaks, some analysts believe the damage to Taco Bell is unlikely to last long, noting the company has made the right moves in order to, and their swift action uh to remove the affected lettuce and public communication, yum brands. This is so funny. I always laugh. I mean, I know you're dealing with food, but yum. Yum brands. Yum. Yeah, and their subsidiary, uh, yummy brands. Um, yum brands reports its second quarter results on July 30th, um, and will likely provide more color on the impact of the outbreak had on Taco Bell. And yeah, they actually did better. That was my that was my thought with this whole thing, is that it was um short-term loss, long-term gain. Like behind closed doors, the big wig funny duddies at Yum Brands and Taco Bell, like you can't help but wonder if they're sitting about going, you know, that sucked for a little bit, but we got a lot of free publicity out of it. Did you listen to the John Justice show this week? We spent a whole segment on it. It was huge. Yes, some people got sick, we know, but in the end, I think it was totally worth it. That's a good point. Have we looked under the possibility that Iran may have been responsible for this? Are there any Iranians around Taylor Farms? Are there any Iranians working for Taylor Farms that might have gone and spiked the lettuce with this parasite, wreaking havoc on the bowels of Americans? Are there any Iranian Taco Bell franchises? I don't, I do. Uh-huh. Um I am fairly confident there are no Taco Bells in Iran. That's my if they are, they're very, very oppressive. Just want to say that up front. You don't have much of a choice of what you're going to get. We would have had to spare them in the bombing. Yeah, probably probably. There is concern, though, U.S. officials are suspecting that Iran-affiliated hackers might have been responsible for the cyber attack that impacted more than 30 of our community water systems here in Minnesota. This was according to a report by the New York Times yesterday that U.S. officials are suspecting that Iran linked hackers might have been responsible for the attack. What's even more surprising in this is that state officials actually deferred the federal investigations. Uh the excuse me, the state officials. Actually, deferred the investigations to the federal investigators, stating that they were best positioned to assess the actors. I'm just shocked that state officials said anything nice about the federal government under Trump at all. Hell hath frozen over. Surprised there wasn't a statement by Attorney General Thief Ellison or Dim Walls saying we don't trust the assessment of the U.S. government. We think it was Republicans. That would have been my expectation. This week's state officials reported technology uh technology for the water systems in about 36 Minnesota communities had been targeted in the coordinated cyber attack. As of Tuesday, state officials said they were not aware of any municipalities that were asking residents to alter their drinking water usage. So you were looking at um Plymouth, uh South St. Paul, uh Maple Plain, and Brahm. All four cities said disruptions were either minimal or uh mitigated in the uh in the aftermath. Speaking of Iran, though, uh, I have some good news for those of you that are wanting a major strike on Iran, a decisive strike on Iran. We may be heading that direction, according to reports uh overnight. Uh President Donald Trump is apparently is considering and has been presented with a military option to doing that thing with my fingers, go big. Go big or go home and escalate the strikes on Iran. I have a couple of clips to share with you. Let's go ahead and uh start with uh this again, speaking to uh Trump talking about the possibility of, and this is what a lot of people have been saying. This is what you've been saying when you've reached out to the show, uh John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org, or you've left a blast at 612-584-4565. It's the same type of commentary that I hear in my household among uh my wife and and my and my boys, my adult sons. It's like when we hear about these renewed strikes or a deal falling by the wayside, there's always it's always immediately followed with commentary from the people around me going, can we not just go in there and end this already and just take care of this regime? Well, it looks like that we may be heading that direction.

SPEAKER_05 24:17

The president has been presented an option by the head of CENCOM to go big and escalate strikes. According to the Wall Street Journal, the idea behind Admiral Brad Cooper's high-end option is to go beyond the smaller retaliatory airstrikes that have done little to deter Tehran from threatening ships in the Strait of Hormoons and lobbing missiles at American forces in the region by sharply escalating the war, according to people familiar with his thinking. SENCCOM says, last night, forces successfully completed a heavy wave of strikes against Iran in response to yesterday's attempted missile attacks on U.S. forces. The strikes aimed to further diminish threats posed by Iran and its proxies to American forces, commercial shipping, and neighboring Gulf countries. And this all really could turn into a much broader world war if this Reuters report is true about China getting ready to sell Iran tens of millions of dollars worth of shoulder fire missile launchers built to take out helicopters and fighter jets.

SPEAKER_39 25:19

President U told you that um China would not give or sell Iran any weapons.

SPEAKER_34 25:35

But that would be surprising. You told me very strongly he wouldn't partake. Uh he knows I'd be quite disappointed.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

And when we asked the president about this last week, he said that it is his opinion she and Putin are not helping the Iranians in this war against the U.S. right now, based on chats that he has had with them. But we also know it is the opinion of some others in the administration in very high levels that China and Russia are at the very least enabling Iran right now.

SPEAKER_06 26:07

I do not I don't particularly care for the terminology in those reports of uh say people who are familiar with his thinking. What is that what does that exactly mean? I mean having a quote an anonymous source coming out and saying, and listen, it's it's really neither here nor there. I just wanted to address it because I never have, and it always drives me nuts. You know, saying, you know, according to anonymous sources close to the president. Okay. But then you have according to people familiar with his thinking. It's just kind of a fancy way to say, yeah, somebody overheard Trump talking about it. I don't know. Maybe it's a little petty on a Freedom Friday. I have more uh audio commentary, including I I talked yesterday regarding Iran. I got a couple more items regarding Iran, uh, including yesterday when I was laying out the difficulty of doing something decisive, like getting proper context on the geography, the size of Iran being about a third the size of the United States, and how the military and the different factions within Iran are so divided. And a lot of them are taking, are basically conducting their own military activity apart, absent from the central command uh command in Tehran. And I actually have a comment relating to that in just a moment. Uh, first off, though, I do want to go back to the blaster line, 612-584-4565. We have a comment about the uh water hacking.

SPEAKER_31 27:36

Hey John and Isaac, we could hear you um about a week, week and a half before these Minnesota towns had their issue with their water system being potentially hacked. Um had a water protection of chemicals and significant and um happening at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 28:22

There's a uh there's a news cycle phenomenon that takes place, and I feel like it's starting to happen now, is that when you have like one big story on a particular issue that doesn't get discussed very often, suddenly now other instances of similar stories end up getting attention where typically they wouldn't. Now, I don't know if that's the case when it comes to what you're mentioning of the western Wisconsin town dealing with a water issue as it relates to the the cyber hack, the cyber attack that took place, maybe at the hands of Iran. But uh, case in point, I'm doing my prep this morning. I didn't grab the story because I just was like, eh, I'm not gonna go there. I got other things to talk about, but I'll bring it up now. Apparently, um, the Disneyland theme park in Southern California, they had to shut all their bathrooms and restaurants down because there was some like massive water break in the city, which is devastating for a place like Disneyland. One, because you can't really bring in your own food, so you gotta eat what's there. It's stupid hot as of late, I know, because I was there a couple of weeks ago and it was ridiculously uh uh hot. Plus, you know, you need to go and use the use the restroom, you're gonna be in big, in big trouble. There are no uh Mickey Mouse outhouses at Disneyland, at least not that I'm uh aware of. All right, back to the possibility of going all in. Uh General Jack Keane was on Fox News yesterday talking about the potential of this larger attack, saying that it could actually be bigger than the beginning of Operation Epic Fury with the United States.

SPEAKER_40 29:57

And do we still have a realistic option to accomplish our assigned objectives if we can't do it through diplomacy? I think we absolutely do. And what and what that is, is returning to major comp combat operations, combined operation, certainly with Sencom and with the Israelis. They're both ready and prepared to do that. And what would that look like? Well, it it would be actually bigger and more comprehensive than what Epic Fury has because we have more targets through intelligence to take care of, and we also are at full magazine depth to deal with those targets. So it would be an all-out attack on their weapon systems, drones, missiles, whatever's left in a nuclear enterprise, IRGC, their units, and also uh their leaders. We would go after very heavily their energy and economic targets, oil and gas infrastructure, as an example. Isolate the country, roads and rails leading to border countries, seaports and airports as well, and sort of militarily quarantine the country. And then we would open the Straits of Amoose and uh and make certain it stays open and finally conduct covert operations after this operation, I think, and what I'm describing to you, and there's only a piece of it. Can't get into all the details here, but it would be so comprehensive that it would likely put the regime on a path to its eventual collapse.

SPEAKER_06 31:26

See, this is why I still have a difficult time buying into this commentary that we've depleted our our stock of missiles and and ammunition. Friend of the show Pat mentioned yesterday that that could just be a talking point by the administration to throw those that we're going after to stop their ability to wage uh to wage war sort of off the off the scent. I just have a hard time believing that with the resources that the United States has, with how large the military-industrial complex is, that we would actually go and run out of those uh of those resources. And it's interesting, too, on that note, because that commentary, that narrative has kind of died off over the course of the past uh 36 hours. One more clip that I wanted to share. Um the brave soul that he is, uh Trey Yingst uh talking about the real problem with Iran, and this plays into what I was mentioning yesterday and uh updated you on this morning, and that is the groups, the factions within the Iranian, um, their own military industrial complex, uh, and just how fragmented they are. Here's uh Trey Yingst from Fox News.

SPEAKER_43 32:39

Well, inside of Iran. One, the relatively more moderate voices. We're talking about Abbas Argashi, the country's foreign minister, Mohammed Kalibaf, the country's parliament speaker, but it's the IRGC that is ordering these missile launches against U.S. forces in the region. And if they can't rein in the IRGC, there's really no point of a deal because it won't be agreed to.

SPEAKER_06 32:58

It's the stuff of movies. So I'm thinking of uh Sum of All Fears, the Ben Affleck uh Jack Ryan film. And then this also happened in Oh, Crimson Tide. In Crimson Tide, you had a rogue Russian faction that got their hands on the nuclear missile codes and nuclear submarines that was causing all the consternation in the film. And then in the Sum of All Fears, you ended up having at the end this attempt to spark a World War III through the detonation of this nuclear weapon. I'm just spoiling the whole movie, but if you haven't seen it by now, that's on you. Um, wherein they went and attacked the Super Bowl. And therefore, this was an attempt to spark this world war. And there was a faction of Russians in that film that were in on this and operating on their own, on their own as well. So we'll certainly be keeping an eye on this. And as I said, maybe a lot of our um desire for a decisive blow against Iran, it might happen soon. I'll share just um, since it's a Freedom Friday, I want to share one little uh more anecdotal story on a on a completely different level, but it popped into my head and all of this. I had to have uh I raised BMX bike when I was uh BMX bikes when I was a kid, did so for several years. Uh and then I I quit for a couple of years when I reached sort of my uh my teen, my teen years, and I was going out, you know, to the club, trolling for women. And I got back into it when I was 19, when I was 19 years old. And in training to get back into it, I uh I ended up wrecking. So I was practicing at a track, I overestimated the track, the one one of the first tabletops on the straightaway. I ended up crashing, hyperextended my knee, and I had to have reconstructive knee surgery. So I had a cast on for like three weeks, and when they took the cast off, my leg had just shrunk, just this shriveled stick. Okay. And it was completely stiff. Like I couldn't, I couldn't move it at all. And they said, Well, because of the scar tissue and the extent of the surgery, uh, this is what is, you know, this this is gonna take some therapy to to work your knee through, right? You should appreciate this. You're into sportsizing. So I jokingly said to them, I said, Hey, can you guys just not knock me out and break my knee loose and take care of this all in one decisive, you know, one decisive move and like, oh no, no, can't do that, you know, because there's too much scar tissue and we could hurt the work that was done to reconstruct your knee. I'm like, okay, fine. So I did like a month's worth of therapy going in a couple times a week to have them loosen it up, and they couldn't get my knee loose. It was stuck. So you know what they did? They went and they knocked me out and they broke it loose when I was asleep. I remember when I woke up from the anesthesia, the doctor went and uh looked at me and he was like, Hey, so did you remember, did you feel uh any of that? And I was like, No, why? He's like, Oh, because when we started, you hopped up and you started yelling at us. Because I guess they were using the anesthesia that makes you go and and forget. See, it's just like the Iran story, right? First thing, right now, we've been doing therapy, you know, targeted strikes, not getting the job done. So soon we just need to go in there and just break that sucker loose. Make it happen.

SPEAKER_16 36:21

I was wondering how you were gonna tie that in. Yeah, was it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:23

I almost forgot that I needed to actually find an ending on that story.

unknown 36:26

That was pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 36:27

I was uh I almost I almost thought for a moment, I think I may have gone too far, and I forgot the whole purpose of why I was telling that story in the uh in the first place. What do I do?

SPEAKER_16 36:34

How do I land this?

SPEAKER_19 36:35

Good morning, John. Happy Freedom Friday. Oh my gosh, what you played in the beginning was like back. Oh my gosh. I am so looking forward to this talk. And I've got to tell you, you know what I really like? I get an email from the American Experiment, and it came directly to Mixer. All I have to do is click look in here, and you can bring it to the app, and I hit you just like that. Alright, happy Freedom Friday, my friend.

SPEAKER_06 37:05

Great to uh hear from you. I believe that was uh Commander Cooby, if I'm not mistaken, and I'm gonna take this moment on a Freedom Friday to welcome in, veteran of Freedom Friday, representative to you, the people, Max Reimer. Good morning, Max. How are you this morning, sir?

unknown 37:20

I can't believe we're here.

SPEAKER_06 37:22

There we go.

unknown 37:23

Hello.

SPEAKER_06 37:24

Yeah. We got him now. Am I here?

SPEAKER_08 37:27

There we go.

SPEAKER_06 37:30

What's up, buddy? I'm here. It's good to see you.

SPEAKER_08 37:32

You're back.

SPEAKER_06 37:33

You're probably of all of my And this is this is of no offense to anybody else whatsoever, okay? I just want to say. I'm the best. You can just want to say that. Well, I will say you've been the most enthusiastic about this new uh venture of the John Justice show. I mean, a lot of people have been excited, but for you, I know that every time in our group chats, when it's come up, it just seems like you uh you you've been the you've been the most excited that we were able to go ahead and and launch this. But it's great to see you.

SPEAKER_08 38:01

It's good to be here. On time no see. It's it's been a little while. Obviously, we've been texting back and forth of the as this has come to fruition. But yeah, I'm just I'm thrilled. You know, you look at all of the time that we spent together at at uh at your former employer, and you landing was center of the American experiment. The studio is incredible. I think I think this is a match made in heaven. Yeah, yeah. Awesome.

SPEAKER_06 38:25

I'm excited for the change in the in the format. I mentioned this at the top of the show that um, you know, sort of we've been navigating this week. Uh I took a very radio approach when we started, but I'm slowly beginning to realize that this type of format, live in a streaming fashion on multiple platforms, audio and video, is providing the opportunity to really kind of expand things and open things up. Plus, when AK Kamara joins us later on, I don't need to tell him to keep his comments to a minimum.

SPEAKER_08 38:53

I do like how AK and I, I under, as I understand it, we'll be snuggling on the couch here. This is uh you're gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_06 39:01

You're gonna need to put Shoggru uh in between uh in between you guys. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he needs to make that little guy. He needs to make an appearance on uh on today's show. So uh do not worry, we will be talking about uh the St. Paul Mayor uh Cooley Her a little bit later on uh next hour. Further updates on that story, by the way. So I I send the Freedom Friday group um snapshots of the headlines of the stories we're gonna be talking about, and they didn't have any St. Paul Mayor stories in the stack, and I texted them and said, Hey, look, I'm just waiting for the update in the morning before I go and and put anything into the stack. And as I had two predictions on this, uh Max Reimer. Uh, the one prediction was this would fall by the wayside and and you know nothing would come of it. The other one was, or more allegations come out against Cooley Her and she's gonna have to answer for other individuals claiming similar uh again allegations as the St. Paul police chief, and it was the uh it was the ladder. It was the latter.

SPEAKER_08 39:59

It kind of got dark too. It uh at first it was like, okay, Wiener Wednesday, that's that's kind of funny. Kind of benign, yeah, yeah. Wrapped in a blanket, whatever. Of course, St. Paul embarrassing itself again, and then it was like, ooh. The the most recent updates have been kind of like this is this is taking it a little too far.

SPEAKER_06 40:19

Yeah, so we're gonna dive into that once we have the uh the rest of our group in this morning. Uh aka Kamara should be here at some point in time. I know he said he was gonna be here by 6 30, but I figured that means more like eight.

SPEAKER_08 40:29

It's a different drive. It is a different drive.

SPEAKER_06 40:31

A little bit longer, a little bit longer, not too bad. Uh, a lot of comments are rolling in for a Freedom Friday if you want to leave a blast. 612-584-4565 is the number.

SPEAKER_27 40:41

Good morning, gentlemen. You're fascinating to talk to. Good show.

SPEAKER_42 40:46

So you're fascinating to talk to.

SPEAKER_06 40:49

That's right. I I deserved that from my story earlier. I just want to say that. Uh I just want to say that up front. Uh, I have one more military uh item uh to get to. Uh, the United States Army has reportedly been testing a new electronic warfare system that could potentially change the face of modern warfare. Uh, Max, my assumption here is that this U.S. Army is reportedly testing, now that we're hearing about it, is that more than likely the U.S. Army has been using this for quite a while and we're just now hearing about this particular device?

SPEAKER_08 41:19

Yeah, this story, it's interesting because it reminds me of what remember the Maduro raid where where we found out about the vibration weapons they were using, and you had these like security guards who were going on record about the whole Maduro raid, and they were saying, like, basically we felt our inside shaking, and we were paralyzed. It's like, oh, how long have we been using that?

SPEAKER_06 41:41

Well, and this sounds like it might be uh something similar. They're calling it the hammer of the gods. Oh my god. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 41:48

I mean Trump named that one uh himself or Pete or Pete Haggs. Or Pete did Hammer of the Gods.

SPEAKER_16 41:57

Yeah, the Hammer of the Gods, right?

SPEAKER_06 41:59

Yeah. I don't know. It's a it's a bit over the top, but I but I would rather have that than a designation of you know the R the the RZZ 2000. The 49QX weapon. So it works by scrambling the navigation systems of targeted weapons and doing so without detection, so they cannot strike their intended targets from a distance without revealing themselves. So the most recent test which occurred during the project convergence capstone six experiment in mid-July. Yeah, everybody's familiar with that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard about that. Yeah, they were just talking about it in the hallway yesterday. I believe all the interns were hull of around talking about the project convergence capstone six. Much better than versions one through five. Just want to point that out. Um, it marked the first time that they had tested the system at sea. Again, I think they've been using this for a while. So the system uses a portable signal disruptor that emits radio signals capable of jamming, uh jamming multiple positioning, navigation and timing signals as well. Those signal disruptions cause weapon systems that rely on that information to miss their intended targets and cause critical mission delays. There is a downside of some of the uh systems, though. And before I even read what the downside was, based on the description, I could already tell you what the downside was. Because you run the potential of doing that to your own equipment. Oh, right. You end up shutting down your shutting down your own stuff. It's like the end of Matrix Revolution when they uh revolutions, when they use the EMP and they knock out all the sentinels, but then they also knock out all of their all of their own military hardware as well. The general in that movie was very upset when they did that.

SPEAKER_08 43:39

Matrix Revolutions, that's that's a movie that I've tried to forget about.

SPEAKER_06 43:42

Oh, see, I I celebrate all three of those. Oh, do you? But that should not be. You're in the minority, though. I love all three. My boys love all the all three. Really? As a matter of fact, uh, Logan, my 24 year old, he probably likes the Matrix series more than Star Wars.

SPEAKER_08 43:54

Really?

SPEAKER_06 43:55

Very interesting. Yeah, we could unpack that one for a while.

SPEAKER_08 43:57

Well, number one was uh Revolution. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Filmmaking. Yeah. And then Prevailing Wisdom, if you will, what the critics say is that number number two dropped off a cliff, and number three was like no one watched it. Oh, three. And then the more modern ones were both of those brothers who directed it became like women. Yeah. And there was a like heavy social agenda.

SPEAKER_06 44:20

Yeah, Resurrection was not that great. I own the Blu-ray. I'll watch it, but it wasn't that great. Um Revolutions, though. Oh, I love I love Revolutions. That's a fantastic film. That's a good revisit it. Great war movie. The action in that is just top-notch. Um, to the point, they say, downside of such systems has been that because they jam radio signals used by enemy forces, they could also jam friendly signals leaving allies behind. But according to Fox News, the hammer of the gods circumvents that problem through the power of uh Thor's hammer. Literally. Nothing. Nothing from anybody in the room. It's early. Somebody out there laughed. It's early. Uh no. Uh it circumvents it uh it circumvents that problem by simultaneously establishing a communication system that allows continued contact between friendly forces even after the disruptor has been deployed.

unknown 45:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 45:13

So it shuts one down and then they then they have a they got they have a they have a backup to go and take care of it. So experiments uh undertaken during operations uh such as, again, the very popular project Convergence Capstone 6, allow the military to field test equipment in settings uh that better reflect the typical uh operational conditions. I don't know if you were listening on the drive in the uh Max or not, but um there's talk now that they may actually move forward with a large strike, a decisive strike against Iran, which again, most of the time when you talk about you know a ceasefire falling through or you know, we're we're attacking again, the comment is usually why can't we just go big and take care of them? And it looks like we may be heading that direction now.

SPEAKER_08 45:58

Hasn't it felt like we've done that like three times now? There's been some kind of big thing that we're supposed to do, and then a deal is supposed to get done, and then a deal is done, and then it's not done. I said when we were on the radio, I said that we really had this summer to kind of decide this war in Iran and then have the economy recover and try to like focus on domestic issues. It feels to me, and I'm no military expert, I happen to like a lot of the people who are currently in the administration when it comes to these foreign conflicts, but it seems to me like it's getting away from us a little bit, John. That's that's how it feels to me.

SPEAKER_06 46:36

Yeah, I so I've been following this uh closely. Um just because I find the whole thing really, really interesting, even beyond talking about it on the show. I just have an interest in this. I mean, when we're engaged in this type of military activity, um, it it certainly grabs my attention. And I understand the perception uh that you have that we've done this a few times, but the way that I've kind of viewed what the administration has been doing, it seems as if Trump has been trying to limit the number of times that we're taking military action. And every time we do, it's to try to uh push those Iranian leaders to some sort of decision on making uh making a deal.

SPEAKER_08 47:17

Yeah, we need a deal.

SPEAKER_06 47:18

Yeah, we we need one. We get there and then they renege, and so and then they attack us. And and I feel like there's been this, there's been a lot of patience coming from this from this administration, which really pushes back on much of the commentary. Like I get that the country is getting weary of the operations, and the polling certainly uh reflects that. But the way the administration and the way Trump has been handling this is really contrary to how those Trump derangement syndrome sufferers have been labeling him. I mean, he he hasn't just been coming in and going for regime change and having us come in to nation build. It seems like they're trying to do the right thing. And we're again at a point where their patients may be running uh thin and they may want to try to do, okay, none of this has been working so far. Maybe we if we go in and do something really decisive, then perhaps that'll that'll get them to change their tune. At least that's my my my perspective on it.

SPEAKER_08 48:16

Sure. Yeah, and you don't run a war, you don't do a war because of politics. But I look at like the political landscape that we're in right now across the country, and I think if we were to get some kind of deal and gas prices come down, when gas prices come down, the price of everything comes down, and maybe Americans are feeling better about their economic situation and Republicans' ability to steward the economy by by November. That said, because we're in this conflict and because um we have the type of Democrats that are running across the country. I just read that this main guy married his cousin. Oh, we're gonna get to that.

SPEAKER_06 49:00

Yep, I got it in the stack.

SPEAKER_08 49:01

You look at like just the loon bats that the Democrats are running right now, it's like, man, what a moment. If we could somehow reestablish that we're focused on domestic issues and the economy, if we can get back to those talking points, I think it's gonna be a boon for every candidate who's running for Congress or U.S. Senate or even down to the Minnesota level in the state house and state senate. It just seems to me like we're getting in a quagmire here that there is no easy out. And it seems like you had mentioned like Trump is not doing nation building. I so appreciate that. Uh, but we're almost working in half measures, it feels like we're we're not willing to do some kind of big military excursion, and we're also not willing to just totally pull out and let Iran take control of the strait again. And when the prices of gas increase, the price of everything increases. And I'm just I'm rambling a little bit, but I'm hoping that we can get back to a point where we're focused on the economy and domestic issues.

SPEAKER_06 50:04

Well, only because you uh you seem to be. You're fascinating to talk to.

SPEAKER_08 50:08

Um I am fascinating.

SPEAKER_06 50:09

I want to revisit Moombat in just a moment. I made a note of it. Let's go back to the blaster line 612-584-4565. If you want to leave a comment for this, good morning, John.

SPEAKER_35 50:19

Andy from East Battle. I'm so excited to have you back on the airway. And I never thought I'd say it, but hearing Jade Vem energy this morning actually made me smile. And thank you for playing Jack King. Two of my favorite people to listen to for current events, John Justice and Jack King. Have a great weekend.

SPEAKER_06 50:37

I mean, there you go. I'm in good company. Um I've had I've had a new concern as of late regarding the moon bats that you refer to. Because so we saw how close Plantner, and we'll get to that story here in a moment. I want to talk a little bit about what broke with Spain and kind of uh couple it with a conversation with Iran, and I know AK will be arriving here shortly. But I've had this new concern regarding these radicals that the left has been running, and then how the left has attempted to and had success normalizing these crazies on the street. Right? It seems as if you've got all these individuals gathering for protests of various different issues. You watch it, and it's it's the it's the Tim Rose Circus sideshow for those that remember this. Like if you remember, if you do you know the Tim Rose Circus sideshow, you're okay. So back in the it's gotta be the late 90s, Isaac Tim Rose Circus Sideshow? No?

SPEAKER_16 51:35

Come on, Tim.

SPEAKER_06 51:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_16 51:36

No chance. Okay, no chance.

SPEAKER_06 51:37

You never know. So the Tim Rose Circus side uh sideshow was this group of individuals that were exactly as they are described. It was run by this guy, Tim Rose, this dude that was tatted from from forehead to feet, right? Big gauges in his ear, everything was pierced. I think his tongue was split. It was one of one of the Brendan one of these guys. One of these guys, right? But he had this whole group of these wildly eccentric, over-the-top characters that would go and they'd go on tour with like rock bands. There was one uh Lollapalooza tour where one of the early ones, actually, where the Tim Rose Circus sideshow was one of the performers in between the various artists of Nine and Schnails and Ice Cubes or Ice T's body count, right? Um, but now like that group's not going to exist anymore because all you have to do is go to any Democrat rally and you're gonna see individuals that look way more extreme and over-the-top and ridiculous than these individuals who used to just be an oddity on stage because people wouldn't see them in real life. My concern is the Democrats have gone and normalized this uh anti-social group of individuals to the point where I'm convinced that the more whack-a doodle you are, the better chance you might have to get elected. Melinda was talking to me last night and she does this thing every once in a while. I had to call her out on it. I'm fascinating to talk to, and then I'll let Max get in on this. But I was going to bed, and right before I go to go to sleep, she um starts to bring me some political talking point. She wants to say, Did you see that James Tallerico may be ahead in some of the polling and all this? And I'm like, honey, I'm I'm literally standing up to go down to go to bed in my room. This is not the time to drop this on me. But that's what got me thinking that the Democrats have done such a good job of normalizing these moon bats as you call them, that I'm fearful now that the more moon batty that you are, the better chance you're gonna have to win. Wherein if Plantner had just, if it hadn't been for Democrats calling out Graham Plantner, then I think he probably could have stayed in and won. But he was taking too much heat. And now, as we'll get to with the replacement accused of having kids with his uh with his cousin, you know, is that even gonna is that even gonna matter? And we can of course roll this into here in a moment to the uh the St. Paul uh mayor uh story. So um we'll invite AK in in just a moment, but Max, I want to give you a chance to respond to this.

SPEAKER_08 54:06

Yeah, well, I think when you look at places like Minneapolis or even some of the state house reps I serve with, basically the immutable characters that they have are things that they list as a credential. I am a gay by transgender, two spirit, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_06 54:23

And I am Max Reimer.

SPEAKER_08 54:24

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_06 54:24

Sorry, that would have been a great drop.

SPEAKER_08 54:26

Maybe I will be two spirit. That could be politically advocated.

SPEAKER_06 54:28

I don't even know what two spirit means.

SPEAKER_08 54:30

It's it's trans. My understanding is it's transgender, but for Native Americans. Oh, I thought it was when you went to the bar and you ordered two shots. Oh, well, maybe it's that too. Maybe that's where I came from.

SPEAKER_06 54:40

Nothing.

SPEAKER_08 54:40

Again. John, it's it's getting it's early. We're we're we're warming up. It's worm early.

SPEAKER_06 54:44

Epitope since 2 30 for crying out loud.

SPEAKER_08 54:47

Getting back in the groove. All right. No, I'll just say like being indecent, kind of putting on a freak show is part of the modern Democrat Party. It's part of what they list as a credential. So I even look at like what's crazy is it looks like Francesca Hong, if you're in Wisconsin and you're listening, it looks like this person who's essentially to the left of Peggy Flanagan is going to be your governor candidate in a place like Wisconsin. Yeah. But that's part of it. That's part of it. The freak show is part of it.

SPEAKER_06 55:19

Ah, there is an AK Kamar who has also joined us in studio here on uh the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment. It is good to see you, my friend. And I saw you shaking your head at some of the comments that Max was uh was making. Thanks for joining us, buddy.

SPEAKER_38 55:33

Indeed. Good morning. How's everyone doing? We're doing great. About the studio? Fantastic. Now that you're here.

SPEAKER_08 55:40

Feels like AK and I are in couples council at this now.

SPEAKER_07 55:43

You stay on your side of the couch, bro. There you go. See, you gotta put Shoguru in between.

SPEAKER_06 55:48

You gotta put put Shoguru in there.

SPEAKER_38 55:50

Is that what his name is? That's Shoguru. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 55:53

He's Grogu's estranged brother.

SPEAKER_38 55:55

I didn't know.

SPEAKER_06 55:55

That's Shoguru. Oh, okay. I get it now. Yeah, yes. Now now it clicked. As Max has been saying, it's early, apparently. So what are your thoughts on the moon bats?

SPEAKER_38 56:06

Oh, it's just the par for the course for the for the Democrats. Listen, I I think the one thing, taking a step back, talking about this potential of this increased war presence in Iran, and you mentioned not everything has to be through a political lens, but you have to also put things in its proper context. Do we have political capital? But because of how moon baddied the left has become, we kind of have it, because it's like the Democrats are fully embracing socialism, communism, and the average voter, it's like a huge percentage. I think it's a plurality, would not ever vote for an actual socialist. So that gives us more political capital to do things that if it was a lot tighter, but thankfully the left is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on just their full embrace of anti-American rhetoric. To your point, in Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan is far outspent, but it's it's it's a tight race. And it right now, I still think that the money is on that Peggy Flanagan will win the Democratic nomination.

SPEAKER_14 57:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_38 57:15

In Wisconsin, Mandela Barnes dropped out yesterday. And again, she is an avowed leftist. That's who the Democrat nominee is going to be. So I think that that's just what the left has done is instead of moderating their positions, they've leaned further left. And what that's required then is that all of the avowed socialists become their base. So they can't abandon their base, otherwise, they'll lose. And my hope, actually, is that the Democrats party splits in two and Republicans will win forever just because there's not enough of one specific vote going to the Democrats. I know that's a little bit uh you know, Polly Anish, because Democrats are really good at just kind of relling up. And that's what I hope happens, man, because if you meet an avowed leftist, they hate moderate Democrats. They're like they're worse than Republicans, you know. So hopefully it fractures them.

SPEAKER_06 58:14

Yeah, they expect they expect the GOP to be traitors to their cause. If somebody that's supposed to be aligned with them, it ends up being a uh a bridge too far. All right, uh, we have uh comments that have rolled into the blaster line. If you want to leave us a blast to 612-584-4565. Uh one of our favorite uh blasters, friend of the show, Scott. We have a Scott Conn level. What is his level of enthusiasm going to be? He's talking, he's talking about COVID lockdowns and and moon bats. So on a one to five, one being the least excited, uh, five being the most enthusiastic or excited. So where are we on the Scott Conn level? Uh Isaac, where do you think he is Scott's gonna be?

SPEAKER_16 58:56

I don't know. He was at a four or five yesterday.

SPEAKER_06 58:59

Yeah, he was he was he was he was peg he was pegging yesterday.

SPEAKER_16 59:02

I don't know. I think he brings it down a little bit. Give me just uh Scott Con two today.

SPEAKER_06 59:05

Oh, you're going two. All right, aka you're at Scott Con three. Scott Con three. I'm gonna be a two as well. All right, I'm gonna split the difference and say I don't think it's splitting the difference. I'm gonna say four, just to be a contrarian. Let's see what Scott has to uh say this morning on the blaster line. Maybe.

SPEAKER_36 59:24

As to uh the moonbat, I think once the COVID lockdown started and everybody was getting a check to stay home. The Democrats and lefties have all found a way to get the Moonbat to always continue to vote for them, and they are flourishing and growing exponentially, and that's as you said, John, something to be concerned about.

SPEAKER_06 59:47

Yeah, so that's a that's a that was like a one, maybe. Yeah, yeah, too. Yeah, kind of it kind of was like a 2.5, and then a lot of vocal fluctuation, then it kind of narrowed down.

SPEAKER_08 59:59

He's right though, a little bit, so he's right. I covet with with all this Fauci news, it a lot of that stuff was being drummed back up within me. Like, how did I feel in 2020 and 2021? And he's so right. COVID, the whole response to it, it broke society and it broke these leftists. They have never been the same since they've been more bold since then, and like their prescriptions to all of our societal ails have like gone even further left, and the boldness is what shocks me. Just the fact that they feel like they can run these candidates and normal society will vote for them is pretty shocking.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:39

Well, and to that, you know, we talked quite a bit and played audio of the Anthony Fauci hearing wherein he invoked the Fifth Amendment, what, 111, 112 times or whatever. Yeah. Um, part of the issue, and I don't want to spend too much time on this, and we'll as we head in here to hour two on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment. I, of course, am John Justice. I'm glad you're with the show uh this morning. Remember, you can watch on YouTube and Facebook and the MN Think Tank uh X feed as well, while you listen at AmericanExperiment.org or on the Mix LR uh app. But we uh we have producer Isaac and we have uh Max Reimer, uh aka Kamara uh with us in studio, and Catherine Johnson should be here soon. But watching the Fauci hearing, seeing the comments from those that were hammering him and Max to what you were saying, you know, a big part of the issue, because I completely agree with you, COVID did such devastation to the country in ways that I don't even think most people realize. We're not talking about it. We're not talking about it because of how divisive COVID was. And we should be having a conversation, especially. I'm seeing a smattering of this now, and I hope it grows, but I'm seeing a lot of conversation circling around how young people who have now sort of grown up post-COVID in the same way that young people had grown up post-9-11. Yeah, they don't know how to communicate with each other anymore. We're having this crisis in the country of young people that just don't even know how to interact. And we need to start having a serious conversation about that here in the country. But unfortunately, that's all mired in the divisiveness of uh of COVID. And that's it's it's incredibly unfortunate. And I hope that that changes in the near future because if we can't talk about it, we're not going to be able to go and do anything about it.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:18

And one of the like not talked about things that we just seem to move past because a lot of the prevailing wisdom in 2022 and beyond was you have to move beyond COVID. You have to start talking about something else, you have to focus on other issues. Well, the stew of our government response to COVID, we printed an additional six to eight trillion dollars over the course of two years to pump into the economy. So when you see like unemployment increasing, but yet stocks are going up, it's because we have all this freewheeling cash in the economy. It was the biggest wealth transfer in the history of the of the country, and we don't talk about the long tail effect of our economy on what we did five years ago.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:04

Uh, we are uh very pleased that she gets herself uh situated to uh welcome in uh the representation of the American Experiment uh podcast, Katherine Johnson. Good morning.

unknown 1:03:15

Good morning. Happy to be good morning.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:18

Well good morning. She's here, I promise. Sorry, my fault. My fault. Go ahead, Kathy. There you go.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:27

Hello. It's so good to be back. I've been waiting for this day for so long. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:32

So many people have.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:33

So happy.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:34

No, it's been great. It's been great. And thank you to everybody who's left us uh comments uh already uh this morning. As a matter of fact, as we uh shift gears a bit, let's go ahead and go back to the uh blaster line now that we have our entire Freedom Friday group in. If you want to leave a comment, 612-584-4565 uh is the phone number.

SPEAKER_27 1:03:58

Um, I know you guys are gonna get through it. The main guy didn't marry his cousin. That's that's that's the only uh sexual three has kids with her.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:07

All right.

SPEAKER_27 1:04:08

Only your husband married your family. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:13

Yeah, I should have corrected myself. They are not married.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:15

Thank you for the clarification there. I'm glad that we I'm glad that we cleared that up because it makes all the difference when it comes to this particular story. No, it's good to be accurate. I don't want to push back too hard.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:25

Yeah, they they are not married, they just have children together.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:28

Uh, let's go here briefly. So, U.S. uh Democrat U.S. Senate candidate Troy Jackson, two children with his second cousin, longtime partner, Lana Pieltier, according to the genealogical records first reported by journalist Steve Robinson. Jackson, a former Maine uh Senate president, became the Democrat's nominee after the party's uh previous candidate, Graham Plantner, withdrew from the race amid rape allegations.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:53

Can we do okay, hold on, let me just stop headline out.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:00

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Flag on the field. Okay, you go through all of that with Plantner. You don't vet the next guy and go, can we just get one person who has a completely clean slate? We immediately go to the guy who had a legal relationship under main law, but in most other states, it just gives you the icks.

SPEAKER_38 1:05:24

Just in your soul, it gives you an ick. Like, we are not in an era where there's a sparse population, okay? We're not in like some small hamlet in Europe where you already have slim pickings. We're the United States of America, 300 plus million people, and you have to settle on your second cousin. My goodness, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:46

You know what, guys? Love is love.

SPEAKER_38 1:05:47

No, it is literally love is love among the kiss and cousins. I have fourth cousins that I call, you know, I I I say this is my cousin. That even fourth cousins. Fourth cousin. I'm like, oh, reminds me kind of of like my mom's side of the family. I can't imagine my second cousin. Oh, it's just it's repulsive. But welcome to the modern Democrat Party. They're like, yeah, man, love is love, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:16

Also, Susan Collins just being the luckiest human alive. Yeah, she is what in the world?

SPEAKER_08 1:06:21

God's hand is not Susan Collins. Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:24

Yeah, just keep bringing out those Democrat candidates. All right. Yeah, just keep uh just keep on doing it.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:30

I was taught, I'll this I saw the story. At first I thought it was another Babylon B story. Um let me get back to details and then I'll tell my little fascinating to talk to story. Um, this forced Democrats to replace um their Senate standard bearer in one of the nation's most closely watched contests. Working off of an article here from the uh from the Daily Wire. According to those genealogical records, Jackson and uh uh Palaitiere, I'm probably saying that wrong again, but uh share the same great-grandparents, Thomas um uh Palaitiere and Edith Thibodeau. Their daughter, Albertine, was Jackson's grandmother, while their son, Louis uh uh Palaitiere Sr. was Palais Tier's grandfather, making the couple second cousins. Who's on first, I don't know, third base? So Jackson and Palaisier have been together since high school. Oh, they're so sweet. Doesn't make it any better. I don't know. Which is so gross. No, it makes it worse because their parents should have been like, oh no, don't do that. Yeah, I can't do that. Stay away. Uh and simultaneously, third uh let's see, uh high school, they they were in high school and are the parents and simultaneously third cousins of two adult sons. Now, while state law prohibits marriages between first cousins without additional statutory requirements, it places no restrictions on second cousins marrying or having children. I will never forget at an incredibly young age, and I don't, I mean, I had to be, you know, six, seven, maybe. I was at my grandmother's house, and our cousins came over, right? And it was probably, I don't know, six, seven, you starting to know are we starting to notice girls by then, guys? I don't remember six or seven, no. Girls are still icky. So probably like ten. Probably were like ten or eleven, right? Probably a little bit better. I had my first girlfriend at 10, I think. Okay. Oh yeah, that's 10 or 11. But I I remember we had cousins that came over, and I was there was a few of them, and I was like, well, hey, cousins all right looking. And I really and I remember I'll never forget like my I it was either my dad or another relative going, John, you're you're gawking and they're your cousin. You you can't do that. And I was like, Oh, is that bad? Is that is that their relatives? I can't do that.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:37

So you learned that at six six, seven, ten years old. Ten years old.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:40

Yeah. And then I went, Oh, okay, now I understand. And and I'm no longer gonna go and and uh and gawk. So you learn that at an early age.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:47

Yeah, well, Mr. Troy Jackson certainly didn't. And to your point earlier, when you come away from Graham Platner with all of his baggage, you find the most milked toast, plain person. You you find Bob Johnson, the mail carrier for 30 years, who has been married to the same woman for 35, and you don't care about his positions. You just say, you know what, you're replacing a total freak. Yeah. And instead, what they did was they found the second biggest freak they possibly could.

SPEAKER_38 1:09:22

Well, they they did pass on the transgender what was that? What was that dude's name? Ashley or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:29

Uh the guy that the guy that was having the the menstruations out of tiny. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_38 1:09:34

He said I have a menstruation out of my butt. I bleed out of my butt once a month, and it's like that was a lettuce that you ate.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:43

Yeah, I do too, but it's because I probably ate Taco Bell once a month.

SPEAKER_38 1:09:46

Yeah, it's because of my my daily Taco Bell, right? Got that psillospora. But that this is like I said earlier, I said earlier that this is what the Democrat Party is, and thankfully, because of how just terrifying they are, it's like I don't think normal people, it's hard to find a normal person that not only will call themselves a Democrat, but that will actually be able to have the support of the Democrat base in all of these states, they just don't exist, which is good for us. Thankfully, they're not finding normal people. Every single one, like you can just go across the nation, even the ones that seem like there might be a little normal, like James Tallerico. You're like, Oh, you what did you say? You're a Christian and you you thank Islam for bringing you closer to Christianity, like that doesn't even make sense. But that's like the most normal person they can find, other than kind of the old guard of like, you know, Gavin Newsom, but he's just riddled with all types of controversy and cheating on his spouse and all these different things. But that's the modern Democrat Party, which is what gives us hope that Republicans aren't gonna get absolutely crushed this midterm.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:58

Did you see that James Tallerico is renting his truck, like his pickup truck?

SPEAKER_38 1:11:02

Renting it, right? So rental truck. My goodness.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:05

So he he's trying to look a little more authentic. Okay. And so his uh pickup truck has been determined.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:11

Because he owns something like a Subaru or something like that. Of course he does normal car.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:16

Of course he owns a Subaru. What else would he own? No offense to you, friends of the show, who own Subarus, but you're driving around a liberal car. I'm just saying right now. It's a stereotype, you can't escape it. If you love it, that's fine. I drive a Kia and I'm proud of my Kia. And there's people that give me a hard time for that, so I don't feel bad about saying it. I have I know there, yeah. Oh, I have people that give me a guy.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:35

Oh, let's not make him uh Kias are also I and this is coming from a guy who drove a Kia Sol for 10 years. That is also a liberal. Well, that's different. Is it really? What? Oh, for sure. Go down to Minneapolis and look at what kind of car has all the bumper stickers on it. It's usually a Kia? It's usually Kia Sol or Subaru.

SPEAKER_38 1:11:53

They probably were like high on the list of like pro LGBTQ, Two Spirit, whatever, on their index or something like that. That's probably why.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:01

Yeah, the DI scores through the roof. I like the uh I like the appearance of Two Spirit on the show today.

SPEAKER_38 1:12:06

Yeah, it makes me happy. I I personally have always loved Two Spirit because it's like, yes, the indigenous people were trans. And it's like if you talk to an indigenous person, like, no, we aren't. Stop saying that. We're not two spirit in the indigenous culture.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:20

Well, there's gotta be like three spirit people out there, too, right? Four spirit? Okay, just making sure. Yeah. I would, I would I mean you can't you can't stop at two. Yeah, boy, girl, and like turtle. Uh I do have audio of uh the uh the replacement of Troy, the replacement candidate uh for uh for Graham Platinum.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Yeah, there's no doubt Graham uh you know did a great job as far as getting people going, very articulate, um, you know, better than I am at that. But you know, what I've been doing um you know all through this is trying to make sure that people understand. Um I don't want to be too I'm gonna pause it real quick.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:56

I don't want to be too mean. Is it just me or he sounds a little slow? He does sound slow. I'm wondering I want to I want to go to the to the further genealogy of his parish. Yeah, next point in time.

SPEAKER_38 1:13:07

We're talking about Maine. He sounds like he's from like the deep south. Yeah. Like from, you know, no no offense to Mississippi since they're beating us now when it comes to math and reading scores. That's right. Sounds like he's from Mississippi, but he's gonna represent Maine. Yeah, let's go back to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

You know, it's it's about the movement, it's it's about the issues. I mean, this is way bigger than any one person, bigger than Graham, certainly bigger than me. Uh, you know, we have a chance right now because people are coming together like I've never seen before. And you know, when I worked for Bernie in 2016, that was uh the most incredible campaign that uh you know I've ever been around. This is way bigger. I mean, people are coming out uh like like crazy because they are upset.

SPEAKER_30 1:13:45

Hey, Drake show is always a it's uh almost present thing. I did have a family member who uh married their second cousin. They fell in love and all that before they even figured it out.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:56

But oh yeah, I mean what happened? Yeah, what happens then? Too bad. Too bad.

SPEAKER_38 1:14:03

You gotta back out.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:05

No love is love on the on that one.

SPEAKER_38 1:14:07

No, I mean you you like do one of those like scenes from the movie where you're like crying in the shower and you're like, oh, I can't believe I did that. That's that's what you do. You don't just say, Well, too bad.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:18

No, it's it's one of those things where as soon as you find out, it's like, hey, maybe in another lifetime this works out, but we can't do this right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:27

All right, let's um let's go, let's go here. Um I don't want to wait on it. I think people are waiting for our commentary. So I want to talk about uh Moundsview mayor uh Zach Lindstrom uh coming up because I didn't realize he also was uh on the list of those that pardoned the convicted uh child uh sex offender, and now he's running for re-election. Side note, and again, we'll get into more into this. Hold off on your on your blasters on that story coming up, but I just want to plant this seed. He falls into that category of that weird liberal dude that's like dad bod jacked to the point where, you know, have you not seen this? Okay, okay, let me give you, let me. Well, I don't know him. I I don't know what he looks like. I saw a picture of him, like, oh, you're one of those liberal dudes.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:13

They're like, they got like, you know, they're they got dad bots, but they're all like big and you know. Like they're like the they're like the frumpy version of that Alan Richter leftist actor.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:25

Like that guy's truly, truly Jack. Jack Reacher, yeah. But you've got like you have like the real wimpy liberal guys, and then there's this there's this side group of liberal dudes that are all like kind of I'm a big liberal, but I'm gonna go and support pedophiles, and it's just all very strange. All right. So I just that that's me seed planting on the show today. Let's go here. First off, where somebody has to clue me in on this because we were in our group chat and and uh I won't say who made the the comment, but where did the demisexual line come from regarding the St. Paul Mayor coolie? It's Cooley, right? Is anybody? No, no, collie collie, collie, like collie flower without the flower.

SPEAKER_38 1:16:08

Or you could say cow like cow, cowli.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:11

Collie, cow cowli. Cowley cowie her, okay her. So where did the demisexual thing come from?

SPEAKER_38 1:16:17

So this this woman has had a a bunch of credible allegations going back years to when she worked for the city. She's been doing this behavior, right? This is the St. Paul mayor who's now under investigation, and we'll get to the details here in a moment. She used to be with St. Paul working as staff, and she had this falling out with a friend who filed a harassment restraining order against her. And in the harassment restraining order, which was sent to me back in January, and I read it and I was like, holy cow, this lady's wildly crazy. She identified herself as demisexual. So, as part of this harassment restraining order, her for her former friend basically said that that Kyle Lee was threatening her and was like pouring out all these inappropriate things to her and trying to like set her up with another alleged state representative. There's a lot of drama in this story. And she referred herself to as demisexual, which means apparently that she is attracted to people of of all genders because it's about the connection that she has. Okay. It's not about whether or not she's even physically attracted, it's her soul connects, and apparently that's called the demisexual, but she identifies as demisexual.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:33

All right, so she's just kind of troll-free. She's I'm just trolling for anybody.

SPEAKER_38 1:17:37

Yeah, and anyone You're good to go. As long as it's my connection.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:40

Third cousins, second cousins, doesn't matter. Yep, doesn't matter, man. Good to go. All right. Well, let's get to the latest because more information came out last night. First, we'll start off with um some uh quick reporting uh from KSTP uh on uh the latest regarding the St. Paul Mayor and the controversy surrounding it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:57

Hi everybody, Kevin Doran. We have more breaking news about allegations against St. Paul Mayor Khali Hur. Of course, we've been telling you about a sexual harassment complaint. Police Chief Axel Henry filed against her earlier this week. Well, now sources are telling us a retired deputy chief also had run-ins with her of that were sexual in nature. Um this story just keeps growing and growing and gets more shocking every day. Um for the very latest, uh, join us here.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:33

Yeah, well, we'll give you the very latest right now. So St. Paul Mayor Cowley Her under investigation, sexual harassment following complaints from the uh police chief Henry Axtel. Uh Henry, excuse me, Axel Henry. I get that reversed. The investigation going on since April involves inappropriate text messages and other alleged incidents raising concerns about transparency and the use of personal devices for government business. Her has stated her commitment to cooperating with the investigation. What's interesting about her statement that she released on Wednesday, there was no denial at all. She took the stance of, ah, people just don't understand my my humor, my sexy humor. I'm adding the sexy part in, but that's what it is. She might as well understand my sexy humor. She needs to lean into it. If she wants to get out of it now, now that more people are coming out, she needs to just start leaning in. I'm a woman, I got needs, who are you to go and push back on that? I know. I'm just trying to figure out how they're gonna navigate their way, their way out of it.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:30

I think that's very good, PR. I think a lot of it is like a little overblown, if I'm being honest. I think that she's clearly a little bit freaky, a little weird.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:38

A little.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:39

But like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:40

She's I was thinking the same thing. Okay, so for Wiener Wednesday, I laughed. Okay. It was really Wiener Wednesday, I laughed.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:46

And I think everyone's in on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:49

But the story that came out yesterday about Kollie Her like making sexual noises and grinding up on these police officers, it's like, uh, this is getting a little weird. So let's let's back up.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:02

Let's back up because you're right.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:04

I will say, a touch. Was there a touch? Are we getting do like a touching? No, yeah.

SPEAKER_38 1:20:08

So that was some of the allegations she's grabbing butts, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:10

So grabbing butts, grabbing butts out there, grabbing butts out there. So, Catherine, I think, yeah, I think your view's gonna change. I with I'm with you on the initial sort of surface level allegations, right? At first I was like, all right, text messages, we're doing memes, wiener Wednesdays, wrapped in a blanket, and all this stuff. But then when you get into watching individuals and then off to the side making sex noises, and now the further allegations, you now we're running into trouble. So going back to the April 1st letter, just to get everybody up to speed for those that are just now arriving on a Freedom Friday here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment, we do have Catherine Johnson, Representative Max Reimer, and uh RNC committeeman aka Kamara in studio with us. So the letter dated April 1st from the St. Paul police chief. Um, his lawyer, uh Chris Maddle, I'm gonna say it again. That dude needs a documentary. Yeah, I love Chris. Shout out to Chris. How many just out there you know cases has this dude taken on, man? It's incredible.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:15

I saw that Joe Thompson is representing one of these people, too. Oh, really? Oh bringing the band back together. Getting the gang back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:21

Love it. Love it. It's like the untouchables all over again. So the city attorney, so the lawyer to the city attorney claims that her used one or more mobile phones to communicate inappropriate and indeed unlawful text messages. Uh, it includes what appears to be a screenshot of a message saying, Happy Wiener Wednesday, exclamation point. Wish I was having a and then a hot dog emoji with you with the all all with you all six today. A redacted picture is then included with the statement uh message saying, uh doing that thing with my fingers, when she wraps you up in her blanket after you gave her a good wienering with laughing, laughing emojis. Wienering. Wienering, yeah. The wienering. It's a new horror movie coming from A24, the wienerings. Yeah. That is allegedly just one of numerous inappropriate incidents involving her. On Thursday night, a source confirmed new complaints, saying that at one point the mayor asked a female deputy about the size of her breasts, and on another occasion made sexual noises at the gym while the deputy chief and other officers were there. The source told Five Eyewitness News the mayor also invaded the offices of police department leadership and covered the faces of officer portraits with images of herself. Now psychopath.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:44

Again, it could be kind of funny.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:46

That sounds like a funny prank. But I don't know. You should do that around here. I think I would.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:51

You should go and replace, you should go, you should go and replace put your picture on everybody else's picture. Uh the deputy chief decided to retire rather than continue what she called a creepy, highly sexualized environment. So that's how bad it was for the deputy chief. Um and you know the story is getting serious because I mentioned this earlier in the week, because earlier in the week it was just straightforward reporting. Yeah. There was no extra voices, there were no outside opinions, it was just this is what's going on. You know, though, with the you know, media being an extension of the DFL, that when they start getting longtime media scholars or political uh science professor Larry Jacobs, and they start getting their opinions, you know that she's starting to face some some uh a tremendous amount of heat over this. So what do you guys think? Is this gonna because initially I was like thinking that the double standard would be at play, she's a Democrat, she's a DFL or it'll fall by the wayside. But my other, you know, my other prediction was that if the allegations are true, more people are gonna emerge and start making claims. Do you think she's genuinely in trouble with this? And we can go uh we can do a round robin with our uh with our Freedom Friday guest this morning.

SPEAKER_38 1:23:58

Yeah, listen, I think she's cooked. Um, again, on on X back in January, uh there was a friend who basically told me all about this relationship. And ultimately, what you find is that this is a pattern that has existed for a while. And I I jokingly said to Max, I was like, there's no way that this started right now. So there's got to be stories of staffers, you know, at the St. Paul legislature that have probably had the same run-ins. She worked for a nonprofit for years, she worked for the city, and I think that she's been doing this inappropriate behavior for the entire time because like she's a broken person. I like, and let's just also be super candid. If she did not look like a foot, right? She's a very unattractive woman. Okay, she's she's homely, okay. If if she if if she was a good-looking gal like Catherine, okay, or Grace, probably no one would have complained. Because it would be like the boss, it would be like the boss from what was it called? Uh, was it called bad bosses or whatever? Horrible bosses. Horrible bosses, right? And uh uh Julia, not Julia Roberts, um Jennifer Anison plays basically a horny boss, right? And she's like sexually harassing her employees, right? Uh Jason Bateman, I think, is the guy, whatever. Point is that if she was more attractive, this probably would go nowhere. But I think what's happening here, okay, is that she's going hard in the paint after dudes and girls, and their significant others are finding out and they're like, that no, that is inappropriate. And instead of like taking the bait and being like, okay, you know, uh, maybe you're like a five or a six, like, she's a two, man. She's a two. Well, listen, and because of that, she's gonna she's gonna have to resign. Because I'm telling you, she's been doing this for a long time, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:50

Let me just okay, Max, before you respond, then I'll give you a second to figure it out what you want to say. Yeah, what did I say? You know, I was wondering what the new format was gonna be like coupled with AK Kamara, and I got my answer. You gotcha. Now I know. Um, first off, you know, when it comes to beauty, just like art, it's all subjective. It's all subjective, you know, you know. Different strokes, different, different strokes for different demisexual folks. True. Okay, so you know, one person's you look like a foot is another person's Mona Lisa. So, you know, who is who is to say, right? Okay, Max Reimer. Uh, is she is she in trouble or not?

SPEAKER_08 1:26:27

Um, what did I uh listen? Right off the bat, I had interactions with her at the legislature. We were on commerce committee together, nothing happened, nothing is she I did not observe anything like that, but you're probably right. You know, there's probably some unspoken stories down in St. Paul at the Capitol. That said, all right, if you're a political consultant or PR consultant, you say, We're gonna let this blow over because the greatest gift to St. Paul is Minneapolis, and you know that Minneapolis is going to have another story before the summer ends about some riot or something else going on that they can probably escape under the cover of darkness from the story. That said, in this story that I think you're reading, other city council people are now weighing in on this as well. And the moment that happens, that's that St. Paul City Council is so petty and always at each other's throats that they smell blood in the water, they're going to continue to take advantage of this story. You're gonna have more and more, I think, city council people coming out and saying this is unacceptable, she must resign. But you know, if I were her, not that I would ever be her, not that I would ever treat my subordinates like her.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:41

What are you gonna put on your hot dog?

SPEAKER_08 1:27:44

Well, listen, I you know, I just like a play, I just like a plain hot dog. Okay. All right, not too big, not too small. Um but what I'll just say is that Minneapolis is going to have some other story that that distracts from. This. Catherine, what do you think?

SPEAKER_10 1:28:02

I kind of think it's gonna blow over. I don't know. I don't think it's uh okay. I will say I have I hadn't heard that the that there was any kind of touching element to this, which to me is totally different if you're invading someone's space versus just making jokes that are like really bad and and not.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:16

So just making a note sex noises around fellow employees, fine, just don't touch anybody.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:21

Yeah. Okay, all right. So I'm I would be like weird, but you know, I don't know if that's sexual harassment, you know. Maybe someone just talks to her and says, like, can you stop doing that?

SPEAKER_08 1:28:33

With the sex noises in the gym, how do we know that she wasn't just having like a tough workout?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:38

Yeah, also I'm pretty sure she was standing there watching. No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_38 1:28:42

The the way that it was reported, aka is that they're like the cops are working out, right? Yeah, and she goes in and she starts stretching in front of them, making sex noises. Listen, and bending over in front of them like- Can we just say like these are cops, right?

SPEAKER_10 1:28:56

Does anyone feel like this story is not great for cops?

SPEAKER_38 1:28:58

Again, because she's ugly, I'm telling you, if she was hot, this would not be a story because people would have probably just like done whatever. But I I want to say this though, right? And you know this better than us, because you are a woman. Women hate women more than that, like whatever. The St. Paul City Council is all female, and they have a female mayor. So I'm telling you, it's gonna be claws out. And if they turn on Kyle Lee, like it's game over. I I here here's my true honest assessment. I think because of the harassment restraining order, there is a darker side to this of how she's it's not just like the power sex dynamic, because like that's like, oh, girl boss, you go. And they're already trying to like seed the story that like she's just acting like one of the guys, one of the boys, but I think that there's an element where she like threatens people and she uses that power to do untoward things, and that's where I think the real story is, and it'll be interesting because again, I'm not a journalist, but I understand, and if your journalist watching this, um there are allegations within the caucus that there were other members within the DFL that made complaints about Kali last year. So they're they're they're gonna you know circle the wagons and keep tight. But I'm just telling you, if you push hard enough and the tide turns, don't be surprised when you start seeing some some Democrat officials that are like, yeah, you know, she did some bad things to me too.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:26

Well, that that could be, I will just say one thing, evidence to the contrary. They were holding this for a while, right? This has been going on for since April. So what how does that serve them? I think that there also could just be an ulterior motive here by I don't know if it's the police or who, but I think there's a couple things going on here at once.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:44

First off, I think people were quiet because it's DFL privilege. You don't want to start tossing your DFL privilege. That's a real thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:50

That's a real thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:51

I also don't, my understanding is her win was not all that popular. Uh that that's that that's my understanding of watching what had transpired. I mean, she beat Melvin Carter. Because Carter was pretty fairly popular.

SPEAKER_38 1:31:13

He was. It was it was actually a cop issue. So Melvin Carter was more friendly to law enforcement. Okay. And Kali was trying to kind of galvanize like the Democrat-socialist type of kind of wing.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:24

So my point being on that is that I don't think there was any intent to remove her because of her being an unpopular win. What I do think is happening is that now the allegations have come out, more people are coming out with further allegations, and you're gonna have individuals on the left that'll be more inclined to toss her under the bus. Oh, for sure. No doubt. For all the other reasons. Um, I do for a couple of things. First off, uh, Isaac, um, unbeknownst to him, he has been very hard at work. We actually have exclusive audio of Kali Her making those sex noises as she was watching those fellow government employees.

SPEAKER_40 1:32:01

Fluffalo.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:02

So I'm sorry, that was uh that was the wrong one. I'm sorry. This is actually the one that I was referring to.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:07

Oh, very good. Very good.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:10

Um, so let's go back to the blaster line 612-584-4565.

SPEAKER_20 1:32:18

Happy freedom for a day. When she was in state office, we didn't hear anything about this. What is concerning to me is this was hidden before the practice was going on when she was in state government, and now she was in local government, it all comes to a head. It's kind of confusing to me because all of a sudden you didn't just have those type of behavior. How did it get hidden all the years?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:46

Well, this goes back to what I said yesterday and what we were just talking about. I think this was one of those circumstances where, and as I suspected, people are coming out going, not not necessarily how I worded it yesterday on the show, which was that's just how Cowley is, that's just her. No, now you have people coming out going, Oh, so they're stepping up and talking about this. Well, I've got my own story. She made sex noises around me, too, you know, everybody, and asked me about you know about my breasts.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:12

So again, I she did not do that around me. Okay, just to be super, super clear. I I just want to say, on top of all of this, on top of the personal controversy of the story, St. Paul is also facing like a $25 million deficit as well. So not only is this happening, but she can't run a city either. Go figure, shocking, most shocking statement of the year. A Democrat is like circling the drain.

SPEAKER_38 1:33:39

So Pioneer Press Pioneer Press, uh, Frederick Milo, um, who I personally think he's an awful journalist, but he said back when she was City Hall staffer, her sometimes greeted a male staffer with unwanted butt grabs in front of his co-workers, friends, and family more than once, more than twice. As mayor, she was asked, she asked a female officer to judge her breast, and a longtime friend filed that restraining order. So, again, I'm telling you, these journalists are gonna start just picking through her her frenemies list, and there's gonna be people that are gonna come out. I don't think anyone in the DFL caucus will probably turn on her because I think that's a bad look for them. Because then it's gonna ask the question like the blast that came in. Why did you say something before?

SPEAKER_08 1:34:25

And who else?

SPEAKER_38 1:34:26

It's because they were circling the wagons. But I'm just telling you, if if someone's able to push hard enough and someone has an axe to grind, they're gonna find out that, yeah, this behavior was happening for a while.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:36

Let's uh let's uh turn our attention over to the uh Moundsview uh mayor here on the John Justice Show, again presented by American Experiment and in studio with us on a Freedom Friday is uh RNC committeeman A.K. Camaro, Representative Max Reimer, and uh Catherine Johnson from the American Experiment uh podcast. You can watch the show at MN Think Tank on X, also YouTube and Facebook at the Center of the American Experiment, and of course uh listen at AmericanExperiment.org or live on the Mix LR app. And if you want to leave a comment, uh you can email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org or 612-584-4565. Uh so uh Dunderhead, uh Mayor Zach Lindstrom. That's what I'm calling him. Dunderhead. This guy's a piece of work, man. He is, he really is a piece of work.

SPEAKER_38 1:35:20

I've battled with him on X a few times. Have you really? Yeah, because he's a douchebag. Yeah, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:24

What's a Dunderhead?

SPEAKER_38 1:35:25

We're about to find out. It's like it's like a dad phrase of like a stupid person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:29

He's just a big, just a big bulky lump of dumb. That's it. That's that's what, yeah, big, yeah, big bulky. That's just a podcast title. Big bulky lump of dumb.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:40

There you go. Rolls off the tongue.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:42

Mounts View voters head to the polls this November. They'll be deciding whether to give Mayor Zach Lindstrom another term months after he voted to recommend a pardon for a convicted sex offender. Lindstrom voted as a member of Minnesota's clemency review commission to recommend the pardon to Tulu Vang, who was convicted of repeatedly sexually abusing a child over a two-year period. And again, the details in the criminal complaint I won't even repeat on streaming. They're so bad. Yeah. By the way, they're atrocious.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:09

Why is the mayor of Mount View on the clemency board? I have no idea. What I've qualifies this guy.

SPEAKER_38 1:36:16

Walls put him on it. Walls put him on it for some favors. Well, that's it. Yeah. He's like basically, you know, he's the ascendant next political guy. Like that's what it seems like eventually the run for state house or something. That's a great point. That's a great point.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:30

This is this is his springboard to correct a higher office within the DFL eventually.

SPEAKER_10 1:36:34

Well, here's why he's on the board. He is an advocate for getting um uh people people off because he has had things in his past, and I think he actually got a pardon um at some point. He didn't just look at his own.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:48

Yeah, he did. No, yeah, he he made some really, really horrible decisions in his past, and so now he likes to let other individuals off the hook who made horrible decisions in their press because we should not be judged on our worst day, according to Dimwall.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:02

So he is partial to giving people pardons and things like that. He's an advocate for this system. What you don't see on this board is anyone who's an advocate for the victim of the crime. So on this board, we have an actual advocate for criminals, and then no one who's advocating for the victim. I mean, that's that's really insane to me, and I think sad. And yeah, he has no further credentials other than, you know, his background of having committed crimes himself.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:29

Well, this goes back to to the moon bats. These idiots think that as long as they're sticking it to Trump, it doesn't matter. I mean, that's that's how deeply deranged, you know, dunderheads like this are. Thief Ellison, Dimwalls. This is how twisted and evil they are. They're gonna let this guy who repeatedly, it's not one, not one worse day, he repeatedly raped a 10-year-old. Right. And they're gonna let him off the hook simply because they feel like they're sticking it to President Donald Trump and therefore sticking it to other Republicans. He was a part of the commission's 4-2 vote. This is according to Fox News. The recommendation ultimately led to the unanimous pardon by the state's board of pardons, consisting of Dimwalls, Thief Ellison, and Supreme Court to Chief Justice Natalie Hudson. Weeks later, the Trump administration did the right thing and announced that Vang had been deported from the United States after uh Secretary of State Marco Rubio revoked his legal status. Uh, Vang, a Laushan National in Minnesota, just to get everybody back up to speed here on the show, he pleaded guilty in 2006 to first-degree criminal sexual conduct after repeatedly sexually abusing a girl beginning when she was 10 years old. According to the court records, Vang admitted to the sexual intercourse with the victim multiple times and told investigators the girl doing that thing with my fingers should be arrested because she was uh uh just as much at fault. My goodness. A 10-year-old. Yeah. Here's the quote that drives me nuts, though, that I wanna that I want to get you guys' comments on. In writing the comments explaining his vote, Dunderhead Lindstrom wrote, Very tough case, but the kids not having a father is not in the best interest of society, referring to Vang's children. First off, uh Vang's a monster. Yeah. Do we know the relationship with those children? And there's a better argument to be made that this is the best thing for those kids, getting this vile human being as far away from them as humanly possible. But apparently, that point is lost through the thick skull of dunderheads like Moundsview mayor Zach Lindstrom.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:29

That's insane because Vang made the decision to rape this child. The system did not victimize Vang in this process, did not take an innocent father away from his kids. Okay. When Vang made that decision, that is his fault. If he never gets to see his children again, that is because of the vile decision that this man made. I I can't believe I it's just stranger than fiction that guys like this get to walk free in the state. It's pathetic.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:01

Well, and the truth is that all of the people on that board who voted for him to get that pardon mentioned his immigration status when they did it. So there was an ulterior motive here that wasn't just, you know, what's for the good of his kids, what's for the good of the country. No, they had immigration in mind as well, and the fact that he would likely get deported if uh not given this.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:22

Let's go back to the uh blaster line, uh, 612-584-4565, if you want to leave a blast here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiment.

SPEAKER_28 1:40:31

I think the greatest trick that the liberal democrats have pulled out in my lifetime is somehow reversing the moral factor when it's conservatives that really care about minority. They use that being on the evil.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:56

You know, it's a it's a it's it's basically an extension of that famous phrase, you know, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing everybody they didn't exist. He's he's right. The way the Democrats has got have gone and flipped morality when the, you know, the the comments are absolutely correct. It's Republicans and conservatives that truly care about individuals. And it also means compassion when it comes to accountability, because accountability is compassion. Holding people responsible for their actions so they have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes is compassion. This individual never received that. And just a few more details before you guys comment. Um, Lindstrom also cited what he described as support for clemency from both Vang's wife and the victim, writing that the uh the applicant's wife supports a pardon and that the victim supports it, according to Fox News. However, as Alpha News previously reported, the victim's letter cannot be found in the publicly released version of Vang's pardon application. Yeah. The Walls administration provided the letter to the media outlets only after the pardon sparked widespread criticism. So this was not a part of the application, as Lindstrom wants to imply. Plus, additionally, the pardon application does not include a letter from Vang's wife supporting clemency. Instead, her support is referenced by others in letters submitted to the clemency board. So this excuse that they're trying to put forward is nothing but a bunch of garbage.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:21

The victim, when this originally happened, was unwilling to come out. This is why he got such a light sentence. She was unwilling to speak about it to the police at length because she was under pressure from her family and community. What makes them think that something has now changed and that the letter is not something that's being pressured upon her? I mean, who would ever say, you know, like, wow, it's it's in the hands of the victim to tell us, but it no, it is our job to have justice in our society. And the victim shouldn't have to worry about that. Justice is going to be done for the crime that was committed against you.

SPEAKER_38 1:42:53

Especially when you're talking about a child at 10 years old. Yeah. Like Tuluvang, I think, was between like 20 and 22 years old when this happened, right? And and the truth is, our system is meant to protect victims even when they won't protect themselves. Now I know that becomes difficult when you're talking about an adult and we're talking about like psychological abuse and things like that. You have to be able to give people their own agency. But when we're talking about a kid, that to me is evil. And back to the point that the blaster made. Ultimately, the left has done this kind of crazy 180 on justice, and they employ this vision or version where they say, Well, on the right, you guys want justice. And and we might disagree with what that looks like, but after justice has been served, don't you believe that at that point you deserve to have another opportunity? And what they do is they play on our forgiving nature because a lot of us are Christian or have a faith, and we do believe in redemption, right? But I think that there is their intent is not pure to the point that you'll see on the left this suicidal empathy that is employed. There was just a video that went viral the other day of Nick Shirley talking to a woman in New York who had been sexually assaulted, and she said, I would rather that that person doesn't spend the rest of their life in jail, and I don't have an answer of how to do that, but I don't even think they should even go to jail because our jail system is so messed up. And he was like, Well, then how do you stop it from happening? Well, I don't really have an answer. Go back to Mayor Lynch, you know, mayor of whatever county is. Is that the same type of logic can be employed that you're looking at, well, they they were convicted and they're gonna have to wear that mark. But really, do we think it's fair that we would send this person to another country because of this? And to me, that type of suicidal empathy leads to the destruction of our society.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:56

Uh, real quick to that uh clip that you were talking about, NY, this is uh this is the audio. Uh NY St uh NYU student explains to Nick Shirley why uh she would let the rapist walk free.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:07

Somebody who has raped a woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:10

Totally.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:10

Would you like them to be out in the street?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:12

I think my answer is yes, even though that's a challenging answer to say. My god, no.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:16

So if you got raped, would you like your rapist to be out in the street?

SPEAKER_01 1:45:19

Well, like let me finish. Because I have been raped, and they they are out in the street, and I'm not sure like them going to jail is a solution to like whatever's going on inside their heart or even my own heart that like contributed to that experience that I'm having. And I don't want more people to get raped, but I don't know for certain that going into a jail in the United States is going to shift anything inside of their like operating system so that they'll make a different choice again.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:52

Wow. Well, thank you guys so much for your time. And is there uh one last message you'd like to give the people about potential the rise of communism or freeing the people inside the prisons?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:01

Just like free yourself from the own prison in your heart, and then maybe we can't you know, there was a there was a time, there was a time in the past where you would hear commentary from a woman like that, and you wouldn't understand what's going on. That's somebody who had a hard time coping with the rape and now has a level wherein they actually go and blame themselves partly for it, and therefore they express this ridiculous amount of sympathy to the individual who was essentially uh a monster. I mean, there was a time when you would look at that and you would go, Okay, you need to go and seek some professional help because obviously you're dealing with something psychological based off of what had happened, what's happened to you, and it's clearly affecting your opinion on this issue. But now we don't do that. Now we just go, oh, well, look at how sympathetic she is, and look at how understanding those on the left are. It's it's truly it's truly frightening.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:57

Yeah, well, and think about this in the context of the victim we just talked about. Again, this is why we don't put it on the victim to say, well, what should happen, you know, to this person. No, we take over as the state and say, we will execute justice. It's not on the victim to decide, you know, what happens. We have a standard and it needs to be held, but it's because of things like that, exactly like you say, John. It shouldn't be on the victim. And this, they put it all in the victim's hands and um probably made her feel even guilty or forced to react a certain way.

SPEAKER_38 1:47:27

And the crazy part is that there's she expresses a value that I think is very prominent among the left. They actually think that the purpose of prison isn't to remove people from society so they don't harm other people. Like, that's like the main purpose of prison. It's not to rehabilitate them. Rehabilitation has become this thing where everyone's like, well, what do we do when they get out? I'm like, personally, me, I want to make prison worse than it is now. I want it to be the most uncomfortable thing you've ever experienced. And the reason that you don't want to go back is because you don't want to experience living a hellish amount of confinement. If people want to find redemption, that's a them issue. You should be able to provide them resources when they get out. But the idea that, like, oh, are they gonna be better off? Are how are their hearts gonna be? No, we just don't want them to rape more people. That's why they're in prison. We don't want them to steal from more people, we don't want them to shoot more people. That's why you're in prison so you can allow the rest of society, our justice system, to continue to operate without these criminals out on the street. And the left don't they don't believe that. They don't believe that people should just be removed to stop hurting other people.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:36

I have a uh I have a message from a friend of the show. Um, one of my favorite friends of the show, by the way. Um, uh, she's a wife and has really great taste in men. I just want to say that up to you. Oh, yeah. Uh her name's Melinda. Her name's Melinda. Um, she texted me and she said, there's an entire generation that was raised with no consequences at school or at home. And also, Dems don't care. She she's absolutely right. I mean, this is this is an extension of that no consequences um movement that has taken place among our younger generations that's been uh that have been indoctrinated in our public school system, wherein they cannot comprehend going and holding somebody accountable for their actions because they've been taught for so long that, for example, individuals who come into the country illegally aren't actually doing anything wrong. Right. I said, No, it's a it's a fantastic point from an incredibly uh uh bright young lady. According to court records, by the way, just to make matters worse, Van got married to the victim's sister.

SPEAKER_16 1:49:33

What is going on?

SPEAKER_38 1:49:34

Just to add insult to injury and all this traumatic events happening in this in this family and in that community. And and oftentimes when we talk about immigration, we will explain that if you don't assimilate to American culture, that's a bad thing. And this is a prime example. If you remember during Metro Surge, when you had ICE going after all of these conventions. Sex offenders that were in the monk community, there were pieces that were written there like, what did you understand culturally? If in your culture you allow children to be raped and married away to adults, your culture is awful. And if you want to practice that, go to countries where that's already the practice. In America, we don't do that. So that's not an excuse, but it has become this thing that you mentioned earlier, Catherine. That these people are so deranged in anti-Trump, anti-ICE that they're willing to free literal convicted sex offenders because they are on the chopping block for getting deported.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:38

Uh, mayor Zach uh Dunderhead uh Lindstrom also served on the state's clemency review commission, um, has served on that commission uh since Walls appointed him in 2023. Himself, he's received a Minnesota state pardon and has spoken publicly about his criminal history. During legislative testimony, he described struggling with addiction, serving a uh surviving a near-fatal fentanyl overdose, abusing drugs and alcohol, and spending time in and out of the justice system. He has credited his pardon with giving him a second chance, restoring his civil rights, and ultimately allowing him to pursue public service. Listen, that's listen, that's great for you, dude, but it doesn't give you uh justification for pardoning this monster because that's what this individual was, a monster.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:21

And that's the whole point of the board, by the way, the clemency review commission that was created by the state legislature under the trifecta, the Democrat trifecta. Go back a couple of years before that. Walls tried to do something similar to this. The Supreme Court said, no, you can't do that, not constitutional. So they brought it over to the legislature when they finally had a dem trifecta. They created this clemency review commission specifically to wipe criminals' records free. That is the whole point of this, and it's why people like Zach Lindstrom were the ones who were appointed to this. Not advocates for victims, not people looking out for the safety of our communities, people who want to wipe clean the records of criminals. So it's working as intended.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:02

I hope the good people of Moundsview do not give this guy a pardon in November. This is uh Does he have an opponent? Do we know? Do we know what that election looks like? Hopefully they get this clown out of office.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:14

Uh, we have a comment from another friend of the show, Scott, along those same lines. Uh, Max Reimer to 612-584-4565. Here's a blast from Scott.

SPEAKER_25 1:52:24

Great idea. Why don't you dump the sex obedient right next in the middle of Minneapolis, right next to the bathhouses? And that way everybody can be happy. Everyone weeks.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:36

Uh, I would encourage everybody, when you have a chance, head on over to it's either it's on, it's probably one of the few times I'll send you here. Uh, but uh MinPost has the uh piece and also at the Minneapolis Times, but I read that editorial from an individual who formally who formerly worked in the sex trade, um, a fantastic editorial pushing back on the bathhouse issue, one of the most comprehensive takedowns of that. I shared it on the show earlier this week, which you can get caught up on in the in the podcast. As we close out um the second hour of the show, one more uh point from the Alpha News article regarding the Moundsview mayor, Zach Lindstrom. So Alpha News reached out to him for comment on the vote. Rather than commenting on the vote, Lindstrom first asked to review the unpublished article before responding. Of course. Alpha News declined, explaining that it does not provide stories for review prior to publication, and again invited him to explain his reasoning behind the vote. Lindstrom then asked whether Alpha News was contacting other members of the Clemency Review Commission, but did not address his vote. After Alpha News again invited him to explain his decision, Lindstrom responded by citing Minnesota's uh pardon ceiling statute and referred additional questions to the Clemency Review Commission executive order. He did not explain why he voted to recommend clemency for Vang. What a flipping coward. You're gonna put out a vote like it. Stand by it, dude. Do an interview. What are you what are you afraid of? If you stand by your vote and you think this was the right thing to do, then what the heck are you afraid of beyond the fact that you're running for re-election and oh you think it might hurt your little dunderhead chances?

SPEAKER_38 1:54:14

And and here's a here's the aspect. You again mentioned this point earlier, Catherine. This entire clemency board exists from a complete leftist perspective that our justice system has meted out injustice at every turn and corner. That's where the heart of this comes from, is they believe that they, you know, our justice system is broken. It's you know, white supremacists and all these different things. And that's what they're doing when they go through these clemency reviews. You've actually seen some really awful cases of people that have committed some pretty heinous crimes that there is like, well, no, that it was because they're black that they had the system you know thrown against them and it was unfair, whatever it might be. And you have victims that are like, well, no, that not at all. Or you'll have the same pressures put on by community members to say, hey, you know, spend enough time, your letter of approval is gonna help, and then they probably like sweeten the pot and say, like, come and work at this nonprofit uh daycare center.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:19

It is a Freedom Friday here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment. We have some um school-related items that we'll be getting into in the uh final hour of the show, including an article uh by Josiah Padley here at American Experiment about how zero students can do math at a grade level at 11 different Minnesota schools. So we'll dive into some details on this. Uh, there's also concern in one school district outside of uh Minnesota. Uh, they have a new uh AI uh robot that they're using for education. Um, but unfortunately, this same AI robot apparently is also used as a sex doll. Indeed. So there are some concerns about that as well. Get your comments into the blaster line, 612-584-4565. We'll also uh take your emails, John.justice at american experiment.org. Before we get to those stories, um I do want to get everybody up to speed on what happened in Spain yesterday. I think that's really noteworthy. I have some audio from Fox News to share as Spain deploys military after thousands of migrants overwhelm a border enclave, leaving at least nine dead. And a lot of people are saying that if Democrats take control, this is what's going to happen here in the United States. And so we got a lot of ground to cover still on a Freedom Friday. And speaking of uh schools, there's a fantastic series at AmericaneExperiment.org. Uh, Grace Keating, who's traveling this morning and couldn't join us for a Freedom Friday, has uh a series of coming to the classroom. For those that haven't had a chance to check it out, here is one of those episodes, and we're back in just a moment, right here on the John Justice Show presented by American Experiment.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:55

In this week's episode of Coming to a Classroom Near You, we look at the new requirement to teach ethnic studies in all K-12 schools in Minnesota, which must be implemented in 2026. Ethnic Studies includes three distinct standards: identity, resistance, and ways of knowing and methodologies. The resistance standard takes learning to a whole new level. It requires students to describe how individuals and communities have fought for liberation against systemic exercises of power and organize with others to engage in such activities. The ways of knowing standard requires students to understand the roots of contemporary systems of oppression and apply lessons from the past that could eliminate contemporary injustices. High school students are instructed that resistance to our nation's social and political institutions is required, as they explain how the social construction of race was used to oppress people of color, evaluate policies affecting historically marginalized communities of color, and take action to affect policy. It's not ambiguous. The new ethnic study standards don't just require learning. They require students to organize, to take action. And it's already playing out in classrooms near you. Teachers in schools across Minnesota are encouraging their students to organize using this resistance standard. For example, the principal at Eagle Ridge Middle School in Savage, Minnesota sent a message to families saying he will not stop kids from leaving school to protest and will have staff supervising the protest. But don't blame the principal. He's simply implementing the new ethnic studies standards. More concerning is that the activists now exhorting students to join protests are the very people who helped draft the ethnic studies standards in the first place. Far-left activist groups like UNIDOS MN are organizing Minneapolis high school students to protest. UNidos has also been promoting a 25-page guidebook calling on students to engage monthly in mass non-cooperation to halt the authoritarians' advance. UNidos is a prominent member of the Minnesota Ethnic Studies Coalition, and Jose Alvilar, the statewide director of youth programs for ONIDOS, formerly called Navigate Minnesota, served on the Minnesota Department of Education committee that wrote our social studies standards. The resistance is all happening according to plan, and it's officially coming to all Minnesota public schools this fall. When Ethnic Studies was presented to the Minnesota legislature in 2023, it was portrayed as the study of different cultures, students seeing themselves in the curriculum, and learning honest history. But like so many other familiar terms, Minnesota's ethnic studies has been hijacked to apply a liberated approach to understanding our world. Minnesota students deserve a robust education that includes learning hard historical truths and frank discussions on where our country has fallen short, not one that is confined to a narrow, politicized, and ideological worldview. Recently, California rejected a statewide ethnic studies mandate because it was too divisive. How will Minnesota respond? To learn more about Minnesota's ethnic studies standards, visit AmericaneExperiment.org slash ethnic studies.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:51

My name is John Justice, and joining us in studio from American Experiments, Center of the American Experiment and the American Experiment podcast. We have Catherine Johnson. Good morning. Also, Representative Max Reimer, who has not had any sort of um weird uh connections or dealings with St. Paul Mayor uh uh Cowley Herr. No, I have not. Okay. Happy to report. All right. Also, RNC uh committeeman and not a fan of individuals who look like a foot, A.K.

SPEAKER_38 2:01:20

Kamara. I'm sure she has uh an awful personality too, which makes it even worse. But as I as I said to you, Max, you know, we're sitting on a couch.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:28

If you need to open up, man, this is yeah, it's yeah, this is the uh this is the marriage counseling couch that AK and I are on. You guys do look pretty cute. Do we? I think we do too. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:38

I am disappointed. I really want shoguru between you guys, but he's making a little appearance on the screen for those that are watching on the uh at uh MN think tank feed or up on YouTube or uh Facebook. You can also stream the show at AmericanExperiment.org and through the Mix LR app. Uh, you heard uh Grace Keating, she's traveling today, couldn't make it in for a Freedom Friday, but her coming to the classroom reports, which are available um up up uh on the American Experiment YouTube page, but also at the website. Let's go ahead and go here and then uh we'll dive into uh to Spain and a host of other issues on a Freedom Friday. Uh Josiah Padley at AmericanExperiment.org has this story today. Eleven Minnesota schools did not have a single student who could do grade level mathematics in the 24-25 academic year, according to an American Experiment review of the Minnesota Department of Education data. The 11 schools that have zero students who can demonstrate math proficiency include both traditional public magnet and charter schools. Grade level mathematics proficiency is measured by the MCA, the Minnesota Comprehensive Assessment. The 0% proficiency review does not include area learning centers, learning, not learning. Learing, not learing, alternate schools, alternative schools, or special education across the state. Almost every single school is in the Twin Cities metro area. Eight of the 11 schools with zero student math proficiency are charters. I guess I'm a little bit, I am, I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little bit surprised that even within the metro, the charter schools are included in this as uh as as well. Um, traditional public doesn't surprise me. Magnet doesn't surprise me, but the charter schools uh does uh does surprise me.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:23

I'm less I'm less familiar with magnet schools, like but charter schools, you have to keep in mind that oftentimes charter schools get lumped into private education. Charter schools are technically public schools. They they utilize public dollars in order to run. So they're still accountable to the Minnesota Department of Education for reporting and things of that nature because these are public schools. You know, once what's interesting about is about reading at grade level, just having three kids of my own, and they're they're all getting really proficient at really young ages in reading. And a big part of that is because my wife loves to read and loves to read with them. And when I when I see statistics like this, schools have to like stand in the gap sometimes for bad parenting, but like there is a baseline level of education that you can give your kids if you're a halfway engaged parent. And the sad part of this story is yes, our schools are failing, they're not serving their students well, they're focused on other things beyond education. But I I'd be curious about where these schools are because it's also an indictment on parenting and where these kids are coming from.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:34

That's one of the points uh that uh Josiah makes in the story, uh saying the Minnesota Department of Education must take its mandate as the leader of the Minnesota education system seriously, specifically by intervening in low-performing schools and closing them when necessary. Of the charter schools where zero students were proficient, charter school authorizers must either ensure that change happens fast or close the school. Adult complacency isn't an acceptable excuse for allowing zero students in a school to be at grade level math. And let me add in another data point. Because where the heck is the money going? The average per pupil spending at each of the 11 schools with the zero students at grade level math is $19,661.13.

SPEAKER_38 2:05:19

Huge. And here's the thing, right? I think that to keep things in perspective, the left loves to attack charter schools and private schools, but they actually have kind of re-engineered and retooled the mechanisms that to Max's point, charter schools, for all intents and purposes, are public schools. They just have a specific focus in addition. And a lot of these charter schools tend to be like uh a more arts focused or language arts focused. And I think this point of how much uh is being spent, how how many taxpayer dollars are going on a per pupil basis when you can point at a bunch of private schools that actually have less per pupil and their children are reading at five, you know, way higher proficiencies for reading, math, and science. And so ultimately, it is an indictment of the system that clearly something is wrong within the public apparatus and even in the charter apparatus where you're seeing these huge deficiencies. But the answer from the left is always gonna be throw more money at it, and they'll I'm telling you, they're going to they'll weaponize and they'll try and spin this story to be like, well, look, there's only this many public schools, it's these charter schools. And uh it's just again, uh the left they never let a good crisis go to waste.

SPEAKER_10 2:06:40

Well, and one of the things we've seen with these charter schools is they've been used to create um schools exclusively representing some of the like ethnic enclaves in Minnesota. So um you look at, you know, President Trump got some flack for tweeting that video of the children in elementary school singing, they were all um young Somali kids, the little girls were in hijabs and they were all singing. That was a charter school that has basically exclusively um a Somali population. So when that happens, you know, you can find like um, I think it was even the New York Times that did a number of years back a great investigative series into a charter school in the East Coast somewhere. Um, but it was a basically a majority Muslim school that had begun to teach kids that girls should not speak up, that girls should wait and be called on, that boys were going to be called on first and then the girls could come out. These kind of things that made sense, I suppose, in their culture, right? Uh, but are not American values and are not okay to be teaching kids in a school. And I wonder how much of that is happening here in Minnesota in some of those charter schools. Maybe they are learning how to read in a different language that's not English. Maybe there are things that they're being taught that aren't really in line with our values here in America, and that kind of thing only goes to make assimilation more difficult and cause tensions between races and cultures.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:02

And when I hear a story like this about how you have these certain charter schools, and it sounds like there's public schools in the mix here as well, but in particular charter schools, this feels like the next frontier of fraud to me, right? When you are saying that you are a school providing this service, and in the case of charter schools, you're still reliant on taxpayer dollars to operate. But when you have a product that you are producing no kids who can read at grade level, I automatically, what triggers in my mind is the question of what's actually happening in the school.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:35

Right, right.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:36

But how many students are actually coming to school?

SPEAKER_07 2:08:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:39

Like, are you lying about attendance? Because we've learned from these food centers and from these daycares that people who are willing to commit fraud are willing to lie about attendance and things of that nature as well. So the bummer about that is there are some really great charter schools in Minnesota that are doing incredible work. I have a few up in my district, but when I hear about a statistic like this, because they're mandated to actually take these MCA tests, the first question in my mind is like, what's actually happening here?

SPEAKER_06 2:09:12

Well, and you know, um, AK, you made the you made the point at the beginning of the of the conversation. And first off, to Max to your point, you're right. What in the heck is going on inside of the schools? What are they spending their time on if they're not learning any of this and how many of the kids are actually there? But to AK, to the point you made earlier, um they're never, as I say often on the show, they're we're never allowed to have the right conversation to go and address the issue. They're gonna look for excuses. They'll never go and look inward and be like, hey, it's our fault, it's our problem, and we need to completely and you know make a wholesale change to the way that we're educating the kids. They'll never, ever go and do that. I mean, that's an extension of what we are dealing with in society when it comes to just the divisions between the left and the right, Trump derangement syndrome. But this extends far beyond that because we've been dealing with this issue in public schools forever, where they simply refuse to go and properly identify the problem that's driving these horrible student education outcomes.

SPEAKER_10 2:10:09

Did you see, John, that on this list there is a school where no students have been proficient in math since 2022? So that's 2022, 23, 24, 25, and now yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's four years. Um, the name of that school also has the highest per pupil spending on the list, but the name of that school is Wellstone International High.

SPEAKER_38 2:10:31

Oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense. So there's a legacy for Yeah, there's a legacy of the left. Uh, your kids won't be able to do math, send them to the school. They're gonna be social justice women.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:41

They're probably learning how to be activists. Yeah, that's what's happening there. Well, you know what? Maybe these uh Twin Cities Metro schools need a humanoid teaching assistant to help them out. Might as well. Maybe that I mean they're spending $19,000, almost $20,000 per pupil. I'm sure they can get a couple of uh 30 at Wellstone. A couple of Rush, you can get a really good AI robot for that and do all thirty thousand dollars perhaps. Yeah, yeah. That's an insane number. I bet uh cooley her would want to borrow the robot. A uh New York school district has uh put the rollout of a humanoid teaching assistant, speaking of which from the Daily Wire, on hold after parents and teachers raised concerns that its manufacturer is affiliated with a company behind doing that thing with my fingers, hyper-realistic sex bots. Okay. The uh Salamanca City Central School District purchased the um real botics, real botics robot named Sally. Yep, Sally. I had a cat named Sally once. The black cat. Uh it was uh night before Christmas, for those that are wondering, the reference. Uh that uh that uh that real box tick robot named Sally, $57,590 to assist 11th and 12th grade coding, robotics, and artificial intelligence classes. The stationary community. Humanoid robot. Oh, that's no fun. Yeah, it's gonna just gonna sit there. Just sit there at the desk.

SPEAKER_10 2:12:05

Even at Chick-fil-A, they zoom around.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_38 2:12:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:09

I saw a picture. I think maybe it has like a torso and arms that.

SPEAKER_38 2:12:12

Oh, definitely it's torso. It's just they they make it not movable. It could move. Okay. But they just don't want to attach it.

SPEAKER_08 2:12:19

How is this robot doing sex work if it's not moving?

SPEAKER_38 2:12:22

Well, you you do the sex work to the doll. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:26

I think that says more about you, Max. The stationary humanoid robot has silicone skin and long brown hair and can move its upper body. Okay, there we go. I said we had to go a little further. Make facial expressions as well, just like Cooley Her. The project, however, drew backlash after parents and teachers learned that the real bottics is affiliated with Real Doll, a company known for manufacturing AI-powered sex dolls that it builds as the world's most advanced sex robot, according to ABC News. Wait, wait, wait. Are you mean to tell me that we're actually gonna care now on the on the left? I'm just gonna put this on the left. We're gonna care now on the left of what uh of who companies go and affiliate themselves with. Yeah. I mean, the left usually never gives a rip about any of that. I mean, this isn't an actual sex bot. This is a teaching bot, but they just don't like the fact that they also make you know sex bots. Especially in school, they're actually come give me a big okay.

SPEAKER_08 2:13:17

So the robot teacher is not moonlighting as a uh sex worker.

SPEAKER_38 2:13:21

Well, when janitor Willie, after that is uh janitor willie.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:29

You better put that uh you better Mrs. Robinson.

SPEAKER_38 2:13:32

Hey Sally. Yeah, you should probably kids are real tough, weren't they, today?

SPEAKER_06 2:13:36

They probably have a some of your stress.

SPEAKER_08 2:13:38

There's a movie in here somewhere.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:41

I think it was the third terminator is what you're thinking of. The female one.

SPEAKER_10 2:13:45

But is the janitor a person or a robot?

SPEAKER_06 2:13:47

Well is a person. Oh, it's a person now. Person that doesn't care that Sally's a robot. They gotta lock Sally up when the day is done. Yeah, no, put her in with all the student items and the lost and found, you know, lock lock her up at night, or else it gets weird. The cleaning crew is gonna be.

SPEAKER_10 2:14:03

I just like that the outrage came after they found out about the relation to the sex bots and not when they found out that a robot was like replacing the teachers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_38 2:14:11

No, no, I I personally think, because I I read when the story first broke, I read into it and it's actually a cost-saving measure. And what they claimed is that they were going to roll out the robot, but it it was just gonna be like one robot for the school, and that jobs were not gonna be on the line. And I'm like, well, absolutely not. If you find out that you can make a one-time purchase of an AI robot, and what you basically find is that the kids' test scores, let's say that worst case scenario, they don't go up, you're gonna save a lot of money not having to pay a physical teacher. I mean, the kids are gonna be able to abuse it all they want, and at least you won't have like you know, kids wilding out. Like you'll see those TikTok videos of like going up to Sally and slapping her around or whatever. But ultimately, I think that the teachers' unions were trying to find any reason to push back because this is what I think is going to happen. Like teachers, and this is not all teachers, of course. I know a plenty of amazing, great teachers that work in public schools as well. But I think that there's a lot of awful teachers, and basically a robot could replace your job. I think that that says something about maybe the calibrated teachers we have in our school districts.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:19

So the New York State United teachers president Melinda Pearson said a robot built by a company associated with sex dolls has no business in our classroom. Yep, of course. Parents, aka what you were mentioning, also questioned how the students' personal information would be collected, stored, and used if they log uh into the robot. Careful with that language, which was designed to provide a good wienery. What are you doing over there? Just logging into the robot. Just just just hard, just hard logging in. Um, designed to provide individual tutoring and support. So we need to capitalize on this story because in the world that we live in right now, with the amount of sexualized material that is being made, I'm gonna take it serious for a moment. Yeah. Uh despite all the wienering. With the amount of sexualized material that our underage uh children in this country uh have been exposed to within our public education system, right? From the from the books to the LGBTQ material and and the like. Um, this runs completely counter to that. This is not a bot. That's a sex bot. It's not that what it's designed to do. Sally is a completely separate robot. This company just happens to also make those. They're not in the classroom. And yet, this is this is suddenly a bridge too far for these individuals. And I think it's to your point, AK, the fact that the the real story here is the reason why they're pushing back is the replacement of potential teachers, and it's the union coming down on it. But this is completely hypocritical to the left's stance right now, relating to the indoctrination that they have allowed to happen inside of our of our public schools. Pick a standard already, right? Just pick a pick a pick a standard and go with it. But the left refuses to go and do that.

SPEAKER_38 2:17:11

No, because all they care about is power, and especially to the left as their their newest iteration of how much they've embraced this leftist socialist paradigm and communist paradigm. There is no truth but power to these people. And so they will flip on any issue, any topic, and then they'll try and galvanize or play on you know people's kind of uh general attitude towards a thing, and they just weaponize it. That's what the left has gotten really good at doing. So it's never ever about the issue, it's just about the revolution. Whatever can put their ideas in power, they will be on any side of any issue, and that's just what they do.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:49

We had a great uh blast that uh rolled in from a uh friend of the show. Again, 612-584-4565. If you want to leave us a uh blast and comment on what we're talking about here on the John Justice show, uh presented by American Experiment.

SPEAKER_32 2:18:05

Good morning, John. I worked with the school district on some other corporal projects and was looking through the budget. And what I found most interesting is a good portion of the money that goes to the schools is actually to cover health care and for one career, retirement care. So school districts that are very old and have a lot of people who retire from everything. Usually have a high number of value, you don't think we have to cover a lot of people. If it would have helped her in the school system, he would have never been level. The school district gets money from the special program. Have a good day.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:11

Yeah, thank you so much for the uh for the insightful uh blast. I I greatly uh appreciate it.

SPEAKER_10 2:19:16

Teacher pensions, she's totally right on the touchy subject, but teacher pensions are a huge, huge uh cost.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:22

What do we do? I mean, how I mean, how do you how what do we do? How do we tackle how do we tackle an issue like that?

SPEAKER_10 2:19:26

Growing them is the thing. I mean, Max, you probably know more about this, but then the legislature there was all kinds of stuff going on in this last session to try and increase and tie it to inflation, I believe, even more so to increase the amount um these teachers are getting through their pensions.

SPEAKER_08 2:19:40

Yeah, that that that happened um two years ago during the the there was kind of a big pension bill that had to do with um public safety and a couple of other things too. But yeah, it's a tough thing because at the same time you want to retain and keep talented teachers, teachers who actually care. The problem with that, and I'm I'm discovering this in a number of different facets of where I serve, is that I think it was FDR who talked about public servants not not having union representation. Like that actually flies in the face of what public servants are, and most teachers are public employees. So you run into this problem where you want to keep and retain talent. I don't want a robot teaching my my child. Like as a parent, I don't want that. I I think that's disturbing. And I think that there's an element of human connection that needs to happen in the classroom in order for students to succeed and thrive. So you want to keep, you want to be competitive, you don't want to lose teachers to other states, you don't want to lose your your teachers who actually care. But the reason we're even having conversation about robots is because, like this school, the Wellstone school, where none of these kids can actually read at grade level, it's like, what are we paying you for? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:55

We have a uh blast that rolled into 612-584-45 uh 65.

SPEAKER_21 2:21:01

I think the parents would object to that robot being with our kids if all of a sudden it was somebody took AI and programmed mayor her's voice into it and with some of those strange noises that she's Oh, very good.

SPEAKER_13 2:21:17

Very good.

SPEAKER_38 2:21:19

You know what, you know what's crazy though, when when you actually look at the problem that exists within the pension funds, right? Of all of these school districts, I 100% think that people that decide that they want to teach our children should be taken care of. However, two things can be true at the same time. Clearly, our system is propped up that rewards poor teachers. And I know that there's teachers that will say, it's not our fault if the parents don't do whatever. And I'm like, well, it's you have to find a way. Like you're going into a profession, and if you're saying it's not my fault, that's the kids as parents, then you need to find a a better way to work within the school district. But the problem is, and we mentioned this already, it's the unions. These unions don't actually care about teaching children, they care about political power. That's one of the biggest things that they care about. And secondly, they care about pushing their ideology. And so you'll you'll see, and you probably recognize the pattern going back to COVID. All of these unions are going on strike, and they're really putting the screws to the districts that they represent, all these teachers' unions, because they don't have any other choice, and so then they have to capitulate, and then oh, suddenly there's a huge budget shortfall, which was being projected. American Experiment did a bunch of pieces on it last year about all of these projected budget shortfalls, and then conveniently the ice surge happened, and then so student enrollment dropped more because clearly we have a lot of illegal aliens in Minnesota, and their children were pulled from the districts because they were running away back to their home countries or being deported. So now they're gonna blame the Trump administration for their budget woes. When the reality is we have to fix our mechanism that rewards poor teachers, rewards good teachers, and then you'll be able to actually solve the longer-term budget issues that exist. But also, there's a lot less people and and the replacement rate is lower. Yeah. So as much as it's awesome to have a pension or the idea of a pension, they're not financially feasible in the long run. So you have to find a better way of converting those to something else because at the end of the day, you can't make money out of nothing.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:32

I I I fully understand that what I'm about to say is probably the more fascinating to talk to comment that I could make this morning regarding this, but we've gotten too clever, we've gotten too cute with our education system. We're doing we're we're actually doing too much. We need to really just pull it all back and just drive home just the basics, just start from the ground up, reading, writing, and arithmetic, real true history, and just get rid of all the ancillary gobbledygook. If that means that you shortened the day to focus just on that because you don't have a lot of outside activities, do that until we have the quality of education and our tax dollars being spent appropriately. And then once you get it back to that baseline standard over the course of a couple of years, then start adding on all of the fun stuff later on. But that's what I feel like the education system needs is just a top-to-bottom restructuring back to just straight up, let's just do the core basics to make sure that our children are ready when they leave here for just everyday life, because right now they simply are not.

SPEAKER_10 2:24:35

Yeah. And then they prioritize things like SEL and these like, like you say, cute little programs that are actually really insidious and creepy. I don't, I do not want any teacher teaching my son about his emotions. Like let's leave that to the parents, man.

SPEAKER_11 2:24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:24:51

I don't need that input. What I do need is yeah, help teaching him during the day math and reading and things like that. So yeah, I completely agree, John. Just getting back to the basics would be huge, but I think the teachers' unions push um things like teaching kids about activism and yeah, their emotions and stuff that really benefits them and their power grab.

SPEAKER_08 2:25:11

To give you a sense, like AK had mentioned it before, but power being the point, right? One of the most depressing parts when I'm in session is when I I've served on education finance committee, and the most depressing parts are when you have Education Minnesota come in and testify against a specific bill or a specific initiative. The thing that sticks out in my mind was this last year when we had the Trump educational tax credit. Okay, you could basically put a check-a-box on your tax form, say I want to earmark, I think it was like $1,200 as a tax credit to a school of my choice, uh educational granting institute, uh, something like that, where that money could go to public school, private school, charter school, whatever school you wanted to give that money to, you could market form on your taxes, and that school would get that additional money to you.

SPEAKER_10 2:26:03

And you would get the deduction.

SPEAKER_08 2:26:04

Yeah, you would get the deduction, the school would get the money, and the school could use that for a number of different things. Well, Education Minnesota came in and testified against that bill. Yep. Even though it included public schools, and their basic thing was we are testifying against this because it'll decrease the enrollment in public schools, decrease teacher, uh teacher funding in public schools, and basically take money away from our teachers in public schools. And when they did that, what was what just became so crystal clear, and every DFL representative fell in line, repeated the same talking, the same anti-Trump talking points. What stuck out to me was like, wow, you really don't care about the kids. You really, really don't. The only thing you're prioritizing is public school enrollment. Not for the sake of the we need more kids in public school because they'll get the best education. The justification was we need more kids in public school so that our teachers can get paid in public school.

SPEAKER_10 2:27:12

Yeah, they should be happy that there's gonna be more private money under this program going to schools, more money in general, but they're not, yeah, because some of it might go to private schools. Meanwhile, in other states that are run by Democrats, they did opt into this program, and their kids are gonna benefit from Virginia didn't even.

SPEAKER_08 2:27:29

Michigan, Michigan, Colorado, you had these other states that are blue states that were opting into this program. And I think just the most jarring part of it was listening to these DFL representatives, this DFL testifier from Education Minnesota, and going, wow, the point is not educating our children. The point is accumulating power and paying off the people who make this whole liberal system go. It almost felt like this overt kickback where Democrats didn't even know, they did not even know why they were opposing it. They truly had no coherent or cogent argument against it. It was just basically we're gonna stick it to Trump and the union needs to get paid off. And they were being like that explicit about it in their testi their testimony.

SPEAKER_06 2:28:23

Um, wrong track, Minnesota. There are a series of points irrefutable available at americanexperiment.org that you can go and check out. I would encourage you to do so. We've been uh allowing the candidates when they come on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment the uh the opportunity to you know pick which one they want to address. But I just want to point out in the for the sake of our conversation right now, on that list is that kids in Mississippi can read better than kids in Minnesota. 55% of students can't do math at a grade level. And of course, as we've been talking about here with regard to these schools, where zero of them are proficient in math. Let's put a um let's put a period on this conversation. A friend of the show, Patrick, uh, left us a blast to 612-584-4565 is the phone number. If you want to leave a uh comment, and you can email me, John.justice at American.org.

SPEAKER_29 2:29:14

One of my one of the larger things with match over read or do math at Green Level. You can do math or read at Green Level 2.

SPEAKER_06 2:29:31

You can read that before that is why Yeah, and we're gonna be feeling the ramifications of this horrible uh education um uh system that we currently have for years to come.

SPEAKER_10 2:29:55

Highest graduation rate this year, I think.

SPEAKER_06 2:29:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_08 2:29:58

Tim Tim Walls and the Democrats have the audacity to talk about how high our gr graduation rate is when all these other statistics exist. It's like, who are we putting through the system? What kind of what you got? How are we preparing the next generation?

SPEAKER_06 2:30:12

They don't care. So uh you may not realize it. ICE is continuing their deportation efforts. The media has simply just gotten bored with covering it, apparently. Fantastic. And as a further example of how, you know, these deportations take place, these arrests take place all across the country. They continue, and there's no controversy whatsoever. Again, just like you didn't need the you didn't need the evidence. You already know it's true, but everything that took place here regarding the ICE operations and metro surge was completely fabricated by the individuals who went out there and obstructed what was going on. But just to get you up to speed on this, uh the Department of Homeland Security announced this week another round of arrests, including child molesters, rapists, and drug dealers. I'm sure the uh mayor of uh of Moundsview, Zach. Get him pardoned, baby. He's really upset about this. Can we pardon those guys too? How many people can I pardon? I want the worst to pardon. Makes me feel better about me. The illegal aliens were apprehended and targeted in arrests across the country. Uh, the DHS and this new program highlights particularly egregious criminal illegal aliens apprehended by federal authorities. It is called the worst of the worst program or wow. I love it. Wow. We got a lot of wows. I'm down with I'm down with wow. With the wow program. I just like saying wow. Just yesterday, ICE arrested child molesters, rapists, domestic assailants, and other worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens, according to the assistant secretary Lauren Biss to the Blaze News on Wednesday. While sanctuary politicians continue to release dangerous criminals onto their streets, our brave law enforcement will continue to risk their lives to arrest these heinous criminals and make America safe again. And then it goes into the list of the crimes that these horrible uh people went and committed. Um, a disturbing story that I want to couple with this, though, broke overnight. Uh, you may or may not have seen uh the images, but Spain has gone so far to deploy its military to the North African enclave of uh Cueta after thousands of migrants overwhelmed the border of Morocco, resulting in at least nine deaths. The surge is one of the largest since 2021, prompted by a major security response as officials scrambled to contain the crisis. The cause of the sudden increase is unclear, though a recent Spanish Supreme Court ruling limiting the immediate return of migrants is a possible factor. Um, I have a clip here from Fox News to get everybody up to speed uh on this, but one of the things, and I think they address it in this, um, is when you look at the group of individuals that are rushing in, we're not talking about uh mothers, right? We're not talking about children. No, we're talking about uh young, able-bodied men that are seeking, you know, to go into another country to take advantage of everything they want to take advantage of. And also, people forget, once you get into these other countries, you hop on any of these trains and you can pretty much go wherever you want. People have a real contextual, in my opinion. I know I did. Um, the context of Europe is kind of, I think, out of the out of the headspace of individuals. Like I've been following F1, and F1 travels to all these countries, right? I'm like, how are they traveling to all these countries every single driving 40 minutes? Every single yeah, exactly, every single week. And then I went and looked at the map comparison. I'm like, oh, it's literally like going from Minnesota to like Iowa. It's like it's like next to next to nothing.

SPEAKER_10 2:33:34

And in the EU, you know, countries, if you get into one, you're good in all of them.

SPEAKER_06 2:33:38

You're good to go. Yeah. Uh before I played this audio, though, any any thoughts on what we're seeing with this uh story that was grabbing headlines yesterday, and as I mentioned earlier, a lot of people are looking at this as a harbinger of doom if Democrats were to take over here in the country again and what would happen here in the United States.

SPEAKER_38 2:33:54

Yeah, I think politically people have a very, very short term memory. And you've started to hear a lot of people, regardless of it. It's uh Iran escalation, de-escalation, um, looking at some of the economic numbers. People are like, oh, you know, you know, is are things really that good with Trump? This is a good reminder of this is what our border looked like. Yeah. Like on a regular basis. I mean, tens of thousands of people passing through certain, you know, eagle pass and things like that. So I think that's why this story went so big, is because it's like we need a good reminder that if Democrats take back power and they have the ability to open up the border, this will be our border on steroids. And that's kind of my just initial thought. The second thought is man, like Europe is cooked. Like they're they're so done. Whether we're talking about their judicial system in all these different countries, Spain is overtly basically Marxist and communist, like they they they don't have a country, man. I mean, like, this is what they've wrought, and I honestly don't feel bad for them because this is what you voted for, man. This is the type of people that they put into power, these socialists and communists that don't believe in borders. So, yeah, that you're gonna have your country taken over by a bunch of immigrants and migrants.

SPEAKER_10 2:35:11

And go a little bit further down the line, look at what happened in the UK. You had all of these men come into the country, particularly men without women and children, and you got rape gangs going after vulnerable young girls. So it's not like we don't know what can happen when we allow these policies and these things to take place. We know exactly what can and will happen because it happened in the UK and to this day, people are not even taking it seriously.

SPEAKER_06 2:35:37

You know, you know, uh real real quick, Max, just uh you you know who's probably a big fan of uh of rape gangs is the uh Moundsview mayor Zach Lindstrom. He loves them. The opportunity to to pardon all the all the all the all the rape gangs that you possibly can. Uh Max, sorry, I didn't mean to shuffle it.

SPEAKER_08 2:35:51

No, I was just gonna say, like, to the extent that it's happened in the UK, what you saw in Ireland after that attempted beheading was riots on the street. Okay. And this is why AK is right during the Biden administration, we let millions of people into the country. And you have to, this is why policy matters and law matters. Like having tight borders is actually the compassionate thing to do, right? Because when you don't, what you're left with is there is no off-ramp. People are going to take to the streets when their culture changes rapidly, and when you actually have people with criminal backgrounds coming into your country that you have no idea about, the end, the end result of that is what's happening in Ireland right now. And Ireland is a very liberal country, but you still have people taking to the streets and rioting, violent riots in rebellion against immigration policies. It's why I think the Supreme Court with this anchor baby decision made the wrong moral decision. Okay, because that was maybe your last off-ramp, your last legal off-ramp in order to actually solve this problem. Because if you don't, what ends up happening is people will solve the problem themselves. And when you see your country, that you're losing your country, people are going to riot in the streets. There's going to be violence because they know it cannot continue this way. So Europe is cooked, but Europe doesn't have the same like moral background that the United States has. We don't really understand like what the far right is in Europe. It's not necessarily like an economic right. It is a um it is all about immigration. And you're starting to see elections be swayed by it. But like I said, in Ireland, you're starting to see violent riots against immigration policy. These things matter to people on the ground, and it's why having a tight border and good laws is actually the compassionate thing when it comes to immigration.

SPEAKER_06 2:37:51

Let's check out this uh report on what was taking place yesterday regarding this uh influx of thousands of migrants uh in really wild video here.

SPEAKER_04 2:38:00

Chaos at the border of Spain's North African enclave in Morocco. This is a city called Ceuta. You're watching as thousands of migrants break through the fence and completely overwhelm the border police. They're video showing huge groups of people, mostly young military-age guys, cramming into inflatable tubes or arriving on shore another way, some of them waiting in the water as they break through the gates to get to the other side. Sandra, this is um reminiscent of kind of what we saw during the open border during the Biden administration through 2021 and 2024, kind of similar to what we saw in Del Rio back in 2021. The socialist agenda, their platform literally says they want to abolish borders, abolish immigration enforcement, have complete freedom of movement. This is what it looks like in another country if they get what they want. Notice there is no resistance from the government whatsoever. These people are coming in without any obstruction. And if people don't know, Spain has a very left-wing government. Earlier this year, they did a big amnesty program for over a million illegal immigrants living in the country. They had 1.3 million illegal immigrants apply for that amnesty program between April and June. So that's what we call a pull factor, Sandra. Um they're looking for something like that. They know if they can just get their foot in the country, maybe someday that left-wing government will do another amnesty program. And you were just Of course.

SPEAKER_06 2:39:16

You know what I you know what I just realized? Maybe that's where Mike Lindell got his idea from.

SPEAKER_07 2:39:24

Well, we were wondering when we did the dry run Freedom Friday last week. I was like, it was such a stupid idea.

SPEAKER_06 2:39:30

Where do you maybe I think I may have found the answer? Just saying. Uh, we do have a comment that rolled in. 612-584-4565, a blast. Uh, friend of the show, uh, James Dickey, uh, wanted to comment on our public school uh conversation we were having here uh on the show.

SPEAKER_26 2:39:48

Hey guys, happy Freedom Friday. This is James Dickey. I wanted to follow back about President Franklin Delano Roosevelt talking about public sector unions exactly right. Public sector unions are the future unions are the closed community. Yeah, uh FDR, right?

SPEAKER_08 2:40:34

Yeah, that's FDR saying that.

SPEAKER_26 2:40:36

Right.

SPEAKER_08 2:40:37

Isn't that isn't that incredible? And we are reaping that every single day in Minnesota. I could name off, I could name off half a dozen situations right now where we are feeling the full effect of that.

SPEAKER_06 2:40:49

So let's uh go here. I have a story by Dina Winner in the Minnesota Star Tribunal. Oh, good. Keeping keeping the uh keeping the theme of uh Dina of immigration, right? Some uh Minneapolis City Council members, they wanted to pass a $300,000 federal uh to pass on a $300,000 federal grant to modernize the police department's bullet tracing system. Okay. So they wanted to pass on this. It helps to solve gun crimes, okay? Not very controversial, but because the program references illegal aliens in the federal notice of about the grants. So you have this grant, $300,000. It's and I'll I'll let you know what it does here in just a moment, but they wanted to pass on it because just the language in the program mentioned illegal aliens, and that was enough for them to not want to take advantage of this. Uh, not realizing the fact that you know what, if you didn't even bring it up at all, nobody would even know. No one's gonna be going and looking at the fine print of this program to go and see that the illegal aliens is listed in there. After a long debate, because of course the council voted seven to five yesterday to apply for the uh U.S. Department of Justice grant, to which the city was invited to apply for and will likely receive. Okay, so cooler heads prevailed, apart from those five idiots that voted against it. The federal money will be used to upgrade imaging technology connected to the National Integrated Ballistic Information Network, or NINBIN, a national database of digital images of the unique markings left behind on bullet casings after a weapon is fired. Oh, so it's just like how Batman went and got the got the fingerprint from the bullet in the dark night. I mean he nothing. Nobody. Okay, fine. Is that what he did? He did. Oh, okay. Yeah, he recreated, he recreated the shot with a gun in his batcave, but he had a separate separate separate batcave because the Wayne Manor had burned down in the first one, if you guys remember, right? And then he went and he recreated it, and the computer system was able to go and piece the fragments of the bullet back together to find the thumbprint. Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_38 2:43:01

Yeah, I do remember that.

SPEAKER_06 2:43:02

But the Joker was hip on his game already and was expecting him to do that because he's just that clever.

SPEAKER_10 2:43:08

Is this a joke? Or is it that what happened?

SPEAKER_38 2:43:10

That's what happened.

SPEAKER_06 2:43:11

That's what happened in the movie. Yeah. There's you see it's called movies you can go out to. I'm gonna go see Spider-Man later on today. Apparently, it's fantastic from what I think. That's what I'm hearing. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't always got it.

SPEAKER_38 2:43:20

I watched I watched bootleg uh Odysseus. Um, did you? Or the Odyssey yesterday. Someone posted it on X the entire movie, right? And so I downloaded that a couple of times. I downloaded it because I figured they'd eventually take it down. Not a good movie. No, okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:43:33

Isaac enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_16 2:43:35

I did enjoy it. Isaac enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_38 2:43:36

I thought it was good. Yeah. The worst fight scenes ever. He put his bias aside. No, no, I I don't even care about like the the the actors or whatever. I don't I don't care about any of that. The fighting scenes were garbage. Like, I I remember like the crappy Odyssey, like the claymation, and that was better fighting scenes. Like, I'm like, these guys can't even fight. They they won a war, and none of them know how to, like, I don't know, swing a sword. And Odysseus's son, like, he's such a weak dude. He like struggled to kill one guy. It was just awful. Wow, it's a jar off that little worms everywhere. I was so bad because I was like, Yeah, people are just probably being too critical on the right. Yeah, but I'm like, this is a bad movie.

SPEAKER_10 2:44:19

Did they have the Ellen Page, Mr. Ellen Page out there fighting?

SPEAKER_38 2:44:23

Yeah, yeah. He died right away. Died right away. Right away. Yes, shot there. That's a but then had like a shot, had another part, you know. I don't care about spoilers. So uh had another part, and and they think most people know the story by now.

SPEAKER_06 2:44:37

They spent around the corner. Don't ruin it for me.

SPEAKER_38 2:44:40

Don't ruin it for it. I never read the poems, but they made it a central part, and then that was like the woke part because like at the end, basically, Odysseus says, like, this is the most valiant of all of the, you know, whatever my party that died, and it's like, no, it was not. They died right now.

SPEAKER_42 2:44:57

You're fascinating to talk to.

SPEAKER_16 2:44:59

First person you see in the movie, Travis Scott. Yes, doing slam poetry. So what are we slam poetry? What is so funny?

SPEAKER_06 2:45:06

What? Doing slam poetry. Yeah, doing slam poetry, that's what I heard too. I almost laughed out loud. That was hilarious. I was like, what is this? That's the person in the room that actually enjoyed the movie. I did enjoy the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I'm easily in it. I thought it was well done.

SPEAKER_09 2:45:17

Travis Scott, like Kylie Jenner's baby daddy. Yeah, the rapper. Almost killed people at his concert.

SPEAKER_06 2:45:23

Yes, yes. It's a badge of that's a bad badge of honor for some people for crying out loud. Sicko mode.

SPEAKER_09 2:45:28

Like, why do you go see a movie?

SPEAKER_06 2:45:29

Sicko mode. Sicko mode.

SPEAKER_08 2:45:31

That's the slam poetry he's doing at the beginning.

SPEAKER_38 2:45:33

Basically, it was sicko mode.

SPEAKER_06 2:45:35

Minneapolis City Council approves the gun crime grants. Despite concerns over illegal aliens' language, the system helps investigators quickly link guns to crimes in other cities and states. Documents, however, put out by the federal government about the grant opportunity included language about how the money can be used, including helping police locate and arrest with my fingers illegal aliens, aliens who have committed crimes and people unlawfully present. Uh, this in the U.S., this, of course, was a bridge too far for council member Jace uh Jason, Bathhouse debauchery Chavez, the son of immigrants from Mexico, who was born in South Minneapolis and saw two of his uncles deported during Operation Metro Surge. He spoke out against the grant because of the harmful language. He said he doesn't accept the premise that undocumented immigrants are a threat to public safety who must be located and apprehended, nor the idea that undocumented immigrants are aliens or illegal. Those are just factual terms. I mean factual statements.

SPEAKER_10 2:46:34

Are they called aliens like all throughout the law? Like are a law. Yeah, of course they are.

SPEAKER_14 2:46:37

All alien language.

SPEAKER_06 2:46:39

Uh he says the language is disrespectful, it's dehumanizing, and it is not in alignment with our values here in Minneapolis. I find it disrespectful and dehumanizing that he has uh this opinion, and also to the victims of those who have um been harmed because of illegal alien crime.

SPEAKER_08 2:46:56

Indeed.

SPEAKER_06 2:46:56

Just out of just out of argue.

SPEAKER_08 2:46:58

So we're we're just gonna chuck a good idea out the window because of semantics. That sounds that sounds par for the chorus for Minneapolis.

SPEAKER_06 2:47:05

It speaks to how bad things are because they actually did end up. I think if things were better in terms of the crime in Minneapolis, they all would have been on board with not accepting this grant because it included illegal aliens. But because things are so bad, they're like, we gotta do something. We just look at it. We need money. Uh council president Elliott Payne uh said at a committee hearing earlier this week that even though the upgrades are needed, he won't support the grant to application, calling the illegal alien language extraordinarily troubling. Council members Aisha Chugtai and Ren Chowdery echoed the concerns. Um, you know, you guys remember like back in the day when the most extreme of like stupid controversy were like nimbies. Yeah. Just not in my backyard. Just don't put it there, right? HOAs, now you have these snowflakes, they can't even deal with technically factual terminology, right? Just trying to make a political point.

SPEAKER_08 2:48:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:48:00

It's I miss, I miss, I miss those days. I miss those days.

SPEAKER_10 2:48:04

They don't help themselves too if you watch the videos of their kind of like meetings. I mean, it's just you get dumber as time goes on watching them. Like, you know, you I think they think they're these like enlightened, you know, these real intellectuals on the city council, and then you watch it and they're they're bickering and they're just trying, it's just oh, it's so painful.

SPEAKER_06 2:48:24

Lead assistant uh city attorney uh Amy Schute uh said she vetted the grant for any problematic terms or conditions that contradict the city's values. What values? What values does the city have? Bathhouse, yeah. Allowing people to go and get their freak on in public.

SPEAKER_10 2:48:43

But she's an attorney, and that's what she's looking for in these grants language that offends anyone? Yep.

SPEAKER_06 2:48:49

It prohibits city workers from helping enforce federal immigration laws. She found nothing that would be antithetical despite the problematic language. It's not as if like so this produces images to help right with law enforcement, right, and all this. It's not like the images are all watermarked with, you know, illegal alien on it. I mean that's so dumb. Again, nobody would have even known if they hadn't even brought it up that there was even illegal alien language embedded in any of this. Yeah. You know, keeping with this theme of language, though, I do want to touch upon this since um, you know, I was not doing the show at the time. I commented on the little bit earlier. And um, AK, I know you had some thoughts on this, but there's new boys. Yeah, I know. I know you do. Um, over at Alpha News, Liz Collin had a chance to talk with uh Shiloh Hendricks, attorney, uh, the Rochester woman who was recently convicted of one count of misdemeanor for basically just talking in public. That's what it was. You have free speech. She was talking in public. She was. You don't have to like what she had to say. You don't have to even think that she's a good person, but she was just talking in public. Um, convicted of one count of misdemeanor, disorderly conduct after she used a racial slur when confronted by a man who used the same racial slur and recorded her while taunting her to repeat it. So um, Liz Collin from Alpha News on this week's uh podcast had a chance to talk with uh Brian uh Carlos. He's the attorney, speaking out against the violation that he says of our everyday liberties and uh rights. Here's a little bit of that conversation here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.

SPEAKER_41 2:50:21

You know, Mr. Carells, I do want to read just part of your closing argument uh from court where you said, quote, we have become a country that demands agreement instead of tolerance. We confuse offense with injury, we mistake disagreements for violence. We don't answer speech with better speech anymore. We demand silence. That's not America. America was built on a more difficult principle, a more courageous principle, that we can hold two thoughts in our minds at the same time. We can say a word is ugly and still defend another person's right to say it. I think some pretty powerful words uh spoken by you in court, but it seems like you were speaking to more than than just the jury here. Why was it important for you to make that point in the end?

SPEAKER_23 2:51:03

As a criminal defense lawyer, we're in a unique position to see how these types of issues start to become so pervasive. I I take this personally because this is to me is just another piling on of what I have seen to be uh a violation of our everyday liberties and rights, and certain officials in positions of power that are doing things that are let's just say that uh aren't making Minnesota so great anymore, maybe contributing to the de-evolution of Minnesota.

SPEAKER_06 2:51:38

Listen, I fully expect that this is going to be appealed at some point, and they'll probably end up winning the appeal uh on this. Um, I am concerned though about the road that we're going down, that this actually went uh there was actually a case and a conviction, even though it was just a misdemeanor conviction on this. Um that is a frightening scenario. And from from my perspective, watching what's taken place in Europe, what's taken place in London, and how they've been cracking down on free speech and people making comments on Facebook and um to a certain extent, ignorantly thinking, well, that'll never happen. That'll never happen here. You know, I give you this story. Again, a couple things can be true at once. You don't have to lie, I don't like what she said. You don't have to like what she said. You don't even have to think that she is a good person, and she's probably not a good person based off of much of what she's posted online. That being said, it doesn't mean that she doesn't have her own free speech to say what is what it is that she wants to say in uh in public. But as we uh you know head towards the end of the show, and we got plenty of time because we don't even have to stop if we don't want to. Uh, the thoughts of our Freedom Friday group, and again, I want to mention we have uh Catherine Johnson from American Experiment and the American Experiment podcast representative Max Reimer and uh RNC committeeman uh A.K. Kamara. And again, AK, uh I know you had uh quite a bit of commentary about this, especially after the conviction of the misdemeanor came down.

SPEAKER_38 2:52:59

Yeah, so I often find myself when I hear a story, I look at the narratives around the story. And the thing that bugged me the most is that I started to see kind of like a white identitarian type of kind of flavor to it, where they were like, you know, this is just this woman, and this is like again, this is our white queen here in Minnesota, and how dare these like dirty Somalis try and do this? And I'm like, well, the main crux is that I don't think anyone should be punished for saying a naughty word. I personally don't care if you call me the N-word. I know that there's some black people that like lose their mind, and I'm like, you're allowing a word to have power over you. It's so stupid. So the issue that I care the most about is that yes, her first amendment was violated. No questions. The thing that I had a problem with is that I was seeing these other narratives that she was just, you know, you know, out with her her baby, and there was this creature, other child that came into her bag and then said all these things. I'm like, let's take a step back. What actually occurred allegedly? There was an eight or nine-year-old child. I don't care if the child is Somali or not. I don't care if they're like uh you know a feral child. Eight or nine, we're talking about a child here, went into her bag and then she decided to curse at the child, allegedly. I think in general, not a good thing.

SPEAKER_10 2:54:16

So can we say we support she was acquitted of that charge that she saw not guilty on the charge to the child, right?

SPEAKER_38 2:54:22

Of using the fighting words to the child because there was no other witnesses because it wasn't on film, other than, and that's why they acquitted, from my understanding, is because it was just uh basically hearsay versus versus the video.

SPEAKER_10 2:54:36

But again, allegedly Okay, the video shows are saying it to the adult.

SPEAKER_38 2:54:39

Saying to the adult. So again, just in that context, we can say that was a horrible action. We as conservatives, we don't want people cussing at children on playgrounds, regardless of what they feel their desire is. So, like, let's just separate the two. Let's not pretend that it's just an attack against just uh a white woman. Now, uh is there intent somewhere mixed in there? Probably that's what the left does. There's a very anti-whiteness. But also, this woman posted Hail Victory, which is literally seagile in English. Uh, and she talks often about like that like an ethnocentric white European. So I think this woman wouldn't care if my Second Amendment, you know, or First Amendment or any of my rights were ever violated because she probably doesn't see me that I am an equal to her. But at the same time, you can say she she deserves as an American citizen the right to say what she says. So again, that's my whole point. Yeah, is just point out the nuance. She also has $940,000. Call me an N word, and if you can give me $940,000, or if I guess I could call you the opposite. Let's split it, man. Let's go have. Someone literally comment and they called the child an it. I'm like, listen, man, you can feel whatever you feel about Somali culture. That's still like child, man. Eight or nine. Well, that was a big kid. I'm like, eight or nine. Yeah. That's a child with a chance. Yeah, child with a chance. Even if the terrible parents and yeah, the fact that the Somali camera guy is uh also a convicted sex offender. Yeah, like I want that guy.

SPEAKER_08 2:56:24

It's like there's a there are no heroes in or no, no.

SPEAKER_10 2:56:28

But you're you're right, aka the thing that I think is more of a problem in our society today is the attack on our first amendment speech rather than the like some of the racism and stuff we've seen come out as a response of this video. Because at the highest levels, we have people pushing that attack on our first amendment, right? Like the Biden administration going after people for making jokes on the internet, like oh Hillary supporters, you know, you voted day early or whatever. He literally has gone after people for things that they put on the internet. Of course, we're seeing it in Europe. That guy with the meme got locked up in the UK. Um, so I think to me that's the bigger threat, and that's why that part of the story is just is a little scary to me, but that's not the discount that there's certainly awful stuff on the internet and something seems that good. All of that exists. But I do think the bigger threat is the attack on our first amendment, right? And that's why you should care about this case. And the fact that, you know, I do think the law that she um was found guilty under uh could be invalidated at the Supreme Court in Minnesota. So we'll see. The fighting words?

SPEAKER_38 2:57:31

Yeah, it's which is so like fighting words. Them's fighting words. If you look at me and you say, hey, aka you're looking husky, I could be like, them's fighting words. And then like you just called that husky. That's it, yeah. You know? It's very subjective.

SPEAKER_06 2:57:46

It's very, very subjective. All right, let's uh let's get one more blast in before we wrap up today's Freedom Friday show. I think I know why they made this comment here. I appreciate the comments, but let's go ahead and uh hear from 612-584-4565. That is the blaster line.

SPEAKER_08 2:58:31

Man, we've had a blast from Lindstrom and a blast from North branch today. Shouts out to Shizaga County, man. Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 2:58:38

The blaster, uh, the blaster line uh it gives me transcripts uh because I was able to go and duplicate what we were uh doing uh before over at uh Me Muscle. But it it dotted out the the the curse word he did. So I thought he was gonna go gonna go much more extreme. Oh, sure. Right? Because I still cringe now because we can go ahead and allow it all the time. I don't know if it clips in the case. Yeah, I know where is it? I've had a few moments like that. Isaac will attest. We've let some of those uh some of those slip through. Uh, but we can do that now with this uh brand new uh format. But with this format, this does wrap up uh the Return of Freedom Friday and uh the official end of launch week here for the John Justice Show at uh American Experiment. And again, thank you to everybody who has gone and um worked so hard uh to make this happen. Uh I mentioned it before and I'll mention it again. Uh we had a relatively short period of time, and as Isaac will attest, we were scrambling right up until the last minute to get everything working uh the way that we wanted it to. And I'm incredibly pleased to say that we uh have and actually finally got the the sign-up uh as well. So uh before I give all my official sign-offs, I want to give the opportunity of our Freedom Friday guests to uh let us know what they have going on, if they have anything going on. RNC committeemen at AK Kamara, always great to see you. Thank you so much for joining us. And uh anything you want to mention before we uh head into our weekend?

SPEAKER_38 3:00:00

Yeah, you guys can follow me on X, uh, Facebook and Instagram at real aK Kamara, over on TikTok at AK Kamara. I'm actually gonna be down in Jackson, Minnesota, judging a rib contest. So I'm doing that uh in conjunction with the Jackson County Republican Party. Uh they're really connected with their with the county fair, so I'll be out there. So hopefully if you're around, come and say hi.

SPEAKER_10 3:00:25

How'd you get that gig?

SPEAKER_38 3:00:26

Well, being fat and black is very helpful to being uh a barbecue rib uh judge. Natural fit natural fit, truer. Just like playing bass guitar, you know, just kind of all.

SPEAKER_06 3:00:37

Truer words probably were not spoken up until that moment, uh Kamara. Thank you. Uh Representative Max Reimer, I know you've been busy as of late. Uh what's uh what's uh what's going on with you anything you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_08 3:00:48

I got nothing to promote. The one thing that I'll say is if you have candidates, local candidates that you want to see get across the finish line, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to do door knocking events, fundraise, make sure that when we hit November, that we actually have a puncher's chance. So if you have a candidate that maybe is flying under the radar a little bit that you believe in, reach out to me. I'm on X as well. But that's what I'm focused on. I I'm trying to make sure, you know, we got the primary to get through. But I I think we got a real shot in some of these races in Minnesota. So that's what I'm working on.

SPEAKER_06 3:01:19

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SPEAKER_10 3:01:33

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SPEAKER_08 3:01:58

It fits better than it is on my head right now. That's how AK wears his hat. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't have to look like that on you.

SPEAKER_10 3:02:05

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SPEAKER_08 3:02:29

For a donation of $50,000, do you get your own uh autonomous teacher robot? We could work.

SPEAKER_38 3:02:36

For $50,000, I'll I will come and uh you know, I'll give I'll judge your barbecue ribs.

SPEAKER_06 3:02:42

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SPEAKER_10 3:03:00

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SPEAKER_14 3:03:03

I'd give you one.

SPEAKER_10 3:03:07

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SPEAKER_06 3:03:29

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SPEAKER_08 3:03:38

That's good.

SPEAKER_06 3:03:38

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SPEAKER_08 3:03:40

So well, in terms of bites that we can use for a shirt, we have we we've logged one today, a good wienering.

SPEAKER_06 3:03:45

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