Sacred Sitdowns
Sharing one’s personal story is sometimes hard, but it is holy. Sacred Sitdowns seeks to allow a safe space for faith-filled conversations with members and friends of Geist Christian Church. Hosts Kyle Brown and Danny Gulden hope that all those who hear will be enlightened and inspired. Listen with us. You’ll be glad you did.
Sacred Sitdowns
Lindsey Schiesser
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Kyle and Danny sit down with Geist Christian Church Elder Lindsey Schiesser. Lindsey and her spouse, Jason, have two children: Tyler is a freshman at Clemson University, and Mia is a junior at Fishers High School. Lindsey and Jason met while in college at Camp Tecumseh, where they were both serving as camp summer staff. She has served as a sponsor on numerous youth mission trips and is involved with Taking Flight Ministries, Geist's ministry to college students. Lindsey shares about her faith journey, specifically as it relates to living with a spirit of generosity.
Let us tell you a story. A story that will challenge, inspire, and change the way you see the world. We're your host. I'm Danny Golden. And I'm Kyle Brown. And this is Sacred Sit Downs.
SPEAKER_01A conversational podcast that explores how the Spirit of God moves within this world through the power of story.
SPEAKER_02In today's episode, we will sit down with a member or friend of Geist Christian Church as they share their dynamic faith-filled story.
SPEAKER_01We hope that you will be enlightened and inspired by the word shared today as we gain deeper understanding of ourselves and the world around us. This is Sacred Sit Downs. Hello, everyone. How are you doing? Good day. Are we English now? Good day to use proper English. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02It's been a great day.
SPEAKER_01All right, very good. It's a beautiful day. We have a wonderful guest today, uh, Lindsay Sheeser. Lindsay, uh, first and foremost, is the mom to two wonderful children.
SPEAKER_02Nice intro.
SPEAKER_01Tyler, uh, who is a freshman at Clemson University, and Mia, who is a junior at Fisher's High School. Uh, she is married to Jason Scheeser, and um they have been here at Geist for a long, long time. Lindsay, it's great to have you here with us. Lindsay's also an elder, I should say, in the church and has been a youth sponsor and all that. So Lindsay's done all the good things. Lindsay, welcome. Thank you. Glad you're joining us today and sitting down with us. We um we're gonna talk about generosity today. That's gonna be the crux of our podcast, Generosity and Gratitude. Um, Lindsay, the first question we we usually start out with with everyone is uh tell us a little bit about your faith journey. What was it like growing up? How did you all get to Geist? Wherever you want to take that question.
SPEAKER_00I was born and raised in Champaign, Illinois. And I was always raised in the church in our house. You went to church every Sunday morning as long as you lived under the roof. It didn't matter where you were the night before or what your plans were. You were in the car to go to eight o'clock mass, no matter what. Um, I also attended a Catholic school, and so it was always very much a part of our life. We prayed before meals, prayers before bedtime. We had happy birthday, Jesus cakes at Christmas every year. Um and so that was my upbringing. In high school, I was very involved in youth group, and that was a very significant part of my faith journey because it was also during that time that our church went through a lot of division and a lot of people left the church, and it was a very difficult and hurtful time. Um, at also a very formative time in the life of a teenager and in the life of my faith. Uh, Camp Tecumseh was another significant part of my faith journey that was woven in throughout my childhood as a camper and then also into college uh because I worked as a camp counselor there.
SPEAKER_01And that's a camp here in Indiana, right?
SPEAKER_00It is. It's about 20 minutes from Lafayette, West Lafayette. Okay. It is a YMCA camp that emphasizes the Christian part a fair amount more than most guys do. And there is a regular chapel every morning, cabin devotions every night. Um, so I did that as a kid for many years, and then I worked there.
SPEAKER_01What time was chapel? I mean, you were used to going to mass at 8 a.m., right? It was after breakfast. Oh, that's late for you. That was late church. Yeah, that's not bad.
SPEAKER_00It was also a little more high energy.
SPEAKER_01I can imagine. An eight o'clock mass, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It was out in the woods, singing songs, overlooking the river. Um so it was a very gorgeous place. And Camp Tecumseh has been a significant piece of my faith journey, and that's also where I met Jason.
SPEAKER_01Gotcha. And you now you served on the board at Camp Tecumseh, right? Am I remembering that correctly?
SPEAKER_00You are correct. I have served on the board and I continue to be on the board at camp.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00And that's going on about 20 years.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_02So how did so uh growing up in Champagne, um in how did Camp Tecumseh that doesn't seem like it's just down the road. So how did you come to uh pick that camp or find your way to that camp as as a kid?
SPEAKER_00I had a friend that had attended that invited me when I was really young. Um there was a strong why program at in Champaign when I was a kid. Okay. And so that's how some people knew about it. Um there were a number of people from Champaign that went there. Um, but it's about two hours and no, it's not just down the road.
SPEAKER_01Right. How how did you and Jason meet there?
SPEAKER_00He was my uh supervisor.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um he was in charge of the counselors for the unit. We worked with the eight and nine-year-olds my first summer. And so he had been a counselor the year before. And then we worked together well, until we got married. Um, so we met working together.
SPEAKER_01Well, you're still working together, just in a different way now.
SPEAKER_00True. True.
SPEAKER_01Um He's no longer your supervisor though, right?
SPEAKER_00No. No, I would I would I would say no. He took a demotion, but um so that's how I ended up in Indiana. And when we met, neither of us planned to stay in the Midwest. And it Indianapolis was a really great short-term compromise. A decision that we made 25 years ago. The short-term part of it disappeared as we came here and enjoyed it. But when we were first married and we were church shopping, for lack of a better term, um we were going to a lot of different churches trying to find out a good place that we fit. We knew we wanted to have kids, didn't have any at the time, wanted an active youth group, wanted young adult ministry, wanted a place where we felt comfortable. He had a Protestant upbringing, I had a Catholic upbringing. What really resonated with our faith more so was what I would sometimes refer to as Camp Decomes a Christian, which really isn't anything more than just unconditional love and a personal relationship.
SPEAKER_01And well, and I think a lot of people have found some version of that at some sort of camp, church camp, uh YMCA camp. I mean, so I think a lot of people who are attracted to Geist and other disciples' churches get that sense at many of our churches.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I I would not be a minister today if it had not been for my camp experience growing up. I mean, church was formative, it was a a safe place for me. I know it's not for everyone, but it was I have nothing but fond memories of going to camp and spending it with people and learning more about myself and uh serving on staff. So I mean it was kind of uh it was good to see both sides of it, being a camper and being on staff, because you're able to give back, but helping kids grow in their own faith and and their own understanding of themselves is uh it was it was very formative for me.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And I found the same thing. I will always say that that was the best job. Those were the best summers that we had, and the difference that can be made, both in watching our kids have gone through the program, having been a kid, staying in touch with campers and other counselors over the years. Um very impactful. I remember years ago, Randy did a sermon and talked about thin places. And to me, Camp Tecumseh has always been a thin place. It's one of the places that I feel closest to God. It has always been a significant place for recharging spiritually. It was very formative in my faith and in understanding and learning about more of a personal relationship with God and in more informal prayer rather than formal textbook. This is what you believe, these are the rituals you perform, approach to your faith.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01And a thin place is that place where it feels like heaven and earth meet, which is a very powerful, very powerful place. Um so tell us, I know Kyle has talked about as you as you're raising children and um you have successfully sent one off to college. Um, you have one who's a junior in high school. My experience of your kids are both of them are very generous, grateful people. That's how they come across to me. So either they're really good actors, or you've done a really good job raising them. How what have you and Jason done to help them be grateful, generous people?
SPEAKER_00A couple of different things. Um some in modeling um and just talking about what we're doing, they were would be aware of and involved with things that we're doing, organizations were supporting ministries that were involved within the church. Um for example, the families at Thanksgiving and Christmas and Easter. Um we have always done that ever since they were little, and we would go shopping together to get the groceries as a family, and we would take the kids to deliver with us so that they could see and feel and experience that generosity. As they got older, they would sometimes personally fund, you know, we would adopt some families and the kids for gifts, and they would personally fund the gifts for one of the kids and had no problem whatsoever picking lots of gifts for the parents to fund as well. They're very generous with our money too. Sure. Yeah. Um, so that was one part of it, is just having them involved. And then also from a financial perspective, I I'm a CPA, so the whole financial literacy thing is something I'm passionate about as well. And so growing up, our kids had what's called a money savvy piggy bank. And anytime they got allowance or money, it went into this piggy bank, which had four sections spend, save, invest, and donate. So from the time they started getting their, you know, an allowance of quarters or something, they were putting 25% of anything they got in donate. And they'd be excited when there was an opportunity or something going on at school that they could use their donate money to support.
SPEAKER_02And where did that, I mean, my guess is you had an experience growing up with um probably your parents modeling that where or uh at church, or how did how did you come to understand generosity uh so that you could then pass it down to your children?
SPEAKER_00A lot of it was experience as a kid. Sure. Um definitely my parents modeled that. I remember it was always exciting to be able to be the one that put the check in the offering basket at church. Um I don't really know that when you're three or four years old what that means, but you know, I got to put the check in the basket today. Sure. Yeah. Um so I saw my parents doing that. I saw them supporting other organizations. And as I got older, kind of mixing the whole generosity and an entrepreneurship thing. If there was ever a fundraiser or something going on for school or any other organization or person in need, uh, my goal was to be the top salesperson. And I I was gonna, you know, raise the most money for St. Jude's or for whatever bike-a-thon or uh walk for my kind or you know, for the our school for the church youth group trips or whatever the current thing was. And so I witnessed a lot of generosity through all my neighbors and friends and family that supported me endlessly when I was always knocking at their door with some other cause that you know, I'm gonna go bike, I'm gonna go walk, I'm gonna go do this, and yes, Lindsay will sponsor you. So I saw a lot of that generosity.
SPEAKER_02Where did that drive come from? I mean, to to be uh the best, to sell the most. I mean, where where did where did that come?
SPEAKER_00Well, both my parents are entrepreneurs. Okay. So I was raised in that sort of setting.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And my personality has a little bit of competition. So why not wrap that all into one and uh you know it was for a good cause. And I've always been drawn to causes, activities that ties back to kids in some way or another. Most organizations, even a lot of the areas within Guys Christian that I've been involved with over the years, tends to be more kid focused.
SPEAKER_01So what draws you to financially support the church to give back to the church?
SPEAKER_00Um there are a number of different things. Um I believe the the whole adage of to whom much is given, much is expected. Uh Jason and I have both had successful careers and have been blessed in that way and feel it's not necessarily ours, that you know it's expected that we uh share and support others. I'm also constantly telling my kids nothing, life is free. You you can't go anywhere for free. Even if it's free, it's not really free. So if you go to other, you know, if you go to a show or you go to some event or activity, you have to pay to go there. You don't have to pay to go to church. But it doesn't run without money. And so the whole financial aspect and looking behind it is, I mean, it's not free. And so as an active member and getting you know, a lot of benefit out of it, um, there's an expectation it won't be there if people don't support it. Um and then the the the easiest one, it it feels good. And I think CJ McClanahan talked about that a lot. Just it it it it feels good when you give and when you share what you have.
SPEAKER_02CJ's podcast was great because it it was an opportunity to I mean there is you do receive something. It's not why you do it, but it is a product of of it's it's a response, right? You feel better when you give. Um and he talks about uh people he's worked with. The the more they give, the better they feel because you're you're making a difference. You're you're you're making an impact um for a cause or a community, uh, in a way that um is life-giving to the organization or the cause, but it's also life-giving to yourself.
SPEAKER_00Certainly. One of the a quote, I always like quotes and little cliche things, but those are welcome here. We are one that always stuck in my head growing up is that talks about, you know, a hundred years from now, it won't matter what kind of car you drove, what kind of clothes you wore, how much money was in your bank account. It'll matter that you made a difference in the life of a child.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so those kind of things always get me.
SPEAKER_02So um, you know, one of the ways that we uh support church, I mean, is is through our uh generosity of of ties and offerings. Uh when I say that, I the financial responsibility of of keeping a a church open. It it's lights and all the things that are behind the scenes you don't always think of. But you know, we also talk about time and talent are other ways that we can share our gifts with uh an organization cost or a church community. And and one of the things that we've done, um, although please be mindful uh that uh you know you don't need to share everything. But uh Lindsay No, you do. She doesn't. Um Lindsay and I have gone on a fair share of of mission trips together. You have volunteered uh a week of your time to go uh on a mission trip with youth. Uh sometimes you've given two weeks of your time to go on mission trips since uh your kids were at different ages and stages, and so you went on a high school trip and then you went on a middle school trip. Um, I was paid to go on those. You just volunteered to go. Um why?
SPEAKER_00Isn't that what everyone wants to do with their summer?
SPEAKER_01That was I assume not your pitch to her to get her to go. I mean, it was a lot uh looking back, it was a lot smoother.
SPEAKER_02It it really was. There was maybe food or I don't know, but uh why?
SPEAKER_00It probably wasn't difficult to convince me, really. I might have even asked the first time.
SPEAKER_02You you may have asked the first time again. Why?
SPEAKER_00Why did I ask the first time? Um I did not ever have a chance to go on a mission trip when I was in high school.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00There were so many kids active in our youth group and not enough spots, so it was kind of a seniority thing. And and everything not great happened before my time got there. So I I went on retreats and I went to a leadership institute, but I never did like the upper classmen mission trip.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I was always itching to do that. I got married right out of school, so I out of college. So I never did any of that traveling and right after college, you know, mission trip, anything like that. So that was something that was missing, which made it an easy sell. But why did I so maybe that explains one time, but I think I've gone on five or six.
SPEAKER_02I think you have.
SPEAKER_00Um so why? Well, I mentioned I'm a camp counselor.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So there might not be a lot of people that willingly want to spend a week in who knows what kind of sleeping conditions in a small room with a whole bunch of teenagers or preteens um without air conditioning doing manual labor.
SPEAKER_02And they smell so bad. And God love them. Teen spirit. It is teen.
SPEAKER_00But as a camp counselor, like that that was my jam. I I like that. I I have no problem with that. I'm blessed that for the last eight years I've been self-employed and I have a lot of flexibility. My boss was totally fine with me taking off tons of time in the summer.
SPEAKER_02You do have a great boss.
SPEAKER_00So it it it worked out really well from that respect. My kids have always been okay with me being around. And for the most part, when I do things with them, um we're not we're not close together. Like they don't cling to me, and so it doesn't necessarily take away from their experience. Um, the mission trips may be one of the reasons why my kids often call me Lindsay instead of mom.
SPEAKER_02It helps you respond, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I often tell them that there are a lot fewer Lindsays out in public than there are moms, so it's a much faster way to get my attention.
SPEAKER_02That's true. So, what in all of those ex I mean uh your story leading up, it it makes logical sense why you would want to go and and uh and such a great asset to have on those trips.
SPEAKER_00Uh Kyle was so fun, I had to keep going back.
SPEAKER_01He's a good trip leader. I mean, you really are.
SPEAKER_02Uh well, we we had some some laughs um in in in our days. We had a laugh. A laugh or two. Uh Lindsay may have a picture of two of us at a grocery store late night with uh our good friend Kelly Dick, um, where I think I'd hit my wall. Uh, because Kelly liked to do three mission trips, and when she did them, she wanted to do them back to back.
SPEAKER_01Three in the summer is a lot.
SPEAKER_00Well, no, they were like three weeks in a row. Three weeks in a row.
SPEAKER_02She just wanted to get it over with. And I'm like, by week three, I was almost I I there was not enough vitamin C to get me through the week.
SPEAKER_00Kelly and I had a lot more energy and enthusiasm on this particular shopping trip than Kyle did.
SPEAKER_02I just wanted to get through it.
SPEAKER_01Did you break down in the grocery store?
SPEAKER_02Is that the I I could have I I there's there's there may have been an opportunity or two for me to break down. Uh all I wanted was sleep, and these two just wanted to laugh and have something.
SPEAKER_01You were ready to go to sleep in the frozen food section.
SPEAKER_02I would have gone to sleep in the cart had they would have pushed me around. Um what did you see in your kids or what did you experience on these mission trips? Because that is another form of of g generosity, right? You're going into communities that are in in need. Um, but I've always found that we learn more in those experiences. It's not we're gonna go help. It's again when we give, it feels good, but we also learn in the process. So, what did you learn through those experiences in your own experience, but also uh through the eyes of a parent and having kids on those trips as well?
SPEAKER_00Right. So I Seeing them try new things. Um, we send the kids to camp and have had 'em do a lot of activities where they get to try new things, but I'm often not there to witness it. So watching my junior high son get into decorating a cake was a pretty unique and fun experience and seeing them cooking. Um seeing them interact with people that they wouldn't normally encounter and the the care and compassion, especially with playing with kids and just talking to them afterwards and hearing you know their concern or like watching their their eyes and their mind be open to the different situations that they're not exposed to and and seeing the compassion that they have and the concern and wanting to you know help these kids or brighten their day and play with them is really rewarding. And talking with some of the people I remember uh one particular gentleman in St. Louis just the people that we serve and serve with and hearing their personal stories is just amazing. And I find a lot of I I just find a lot of joy in in hearing those stories and I learn a lot from them.
SPEAKER_01And I I think too, you you pointed out earlier you talked about, you know, you have good careers, and I think when you go on a mission trip, my experience has always been that you see how thin the line is between you and people that you would normally label as other. You know, maybe it was just they happen to be born in a different place. They had, they were, you know, they have different parents. They made a bad choice or two that just totally set them back. And so I think you really, in those experiences, I think it it helps you see our common humanity that you have far, we have far more in common with one another than we do um than than that separates us, you know, um, which I think is why it's so powerful for for youth, because they they're grateful, they begin to have gratitude for what they have. They realize that you know there's nothing we can take for granted in this life. And so um I I that's my always been my experience. I think even our kids at Geist, what I've noticed is they're they're more grateful people for having those experiences.
SPEAKER_00Definitely.
SPEAKER_02I'm reminded of uh our St. Louis mission trip. And we were just there on fall break, but uh they call it the Del Mar Divide because Del Mar Street runs. And and so we were given a trash bag, and and we were told to walk on one side picking up the trash and on the other side uh picking up the trash. And what you found is one side had more trash to pick up than the other. Um in this simple street, you talk about thin places, but just the thinness of a street being so um different um in in uh perspective or and and and how the kids began to open their mind and uh going all the way back to to redlining and parts in a city that you know you just they may have not thought about. And then, you know, to have a kid go, well, you know, we don't have that in Indianapolis, and educating them to how we do, it's just again, where they live, they don't see such a stark difference on just a single street, but it is there. And so you have them open their eyes to take that back to see their own city uh through a different lens than they had before they left, which I think is extremely powerful for for kids and youth and for us as adults as as they kind of get it, and you're like, oh man, you've got it reminds us because we forget.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. We forget, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, and when you see them playing with the kids after they've gotten the education and understanding of of the situation where they are, and you know, after they're playing with the kids and they find out like they like the same things we do. You know, they like the same games, they watch the same things, they want to do the same stuff that we do. And it gets back to uh we have a lot more in common than people realize.
SPEAKER_01Right. So I have a uh I was gonna say a heavy question, but Lindsay, as you've grown up and now are an adult, and how has your view of God changed?
SPEAKER_00How has it evolved for you early on it was more fear or guilt driven. Over time, I think it has gotten less formal and much more of a personal relationship, and that came from my experiences at Camp Tecumseh and also with my high school youth minister. That was those two places is really where I was exposed to the concept of prayer being what's on your heart, what's on your mind, talking to God as a friend in a more informal situation rather than some written prayer or formal service or something like that. Um so over time I think it's gotten to be more informal and just more there.
SPEAKER_01Um it's a more personal God, it's a more real, real God. Yeah, I think that's always the um, you know, like in church when you do a pastoral prayer. I don't know if you get this kind of or you Lindsay, maybe when you do an elder prayer, people come up to me and say, That was so eloquent. Is that how you pray in your personal life? And I'm like, No, it's far less formal. You know, it's a really always makes me think, do we need to be quite this formal even in our pastoral prayers? But um interesting point. Yeah, I'm like, no, this is not normally how I talk to God.
SPEAKER_02Um you know, Lindsay, you you said uh fear early on. I'm I I thought of this quote. I actually uh texted Ryan earlier on in the week. Um, if our religion is based on salvation, our chief emotions will be fear and trembling. If our religion is based on wonder, our chief emotion will be gratitude. Um Carl Jung uh is is accredited to that quote. And I just, as you said, fear, um, I had to pull my phone out going, why I had a great quote that I came across this week. Um, especially on gratitude and wonder. And and you just preached a sermon series on uh the king of wonder. No, I was gonna say Ted Lasso. I mean this idea of how do we wonder um and when our faith is a a little informal, but just it's it's a it's it allows for flexibility and question and wonder to move creatively within us um and not be so rigid to the system or structures um that that we can find ourselves in.
SPEAKER_01That's the power in Ted Lasso is Ted's always open to new possibilities and he's always helping other people see new possibilities.
SPEAKER_02And I think that's what being generous is all about is creating space for people to be generous. And and and I hope the church is a place that that does that, that uh allows people to see. Um I mean, ideally, I'd want church to be a lot like camp. You talked about, you know, Camp Tecumseh. That would be fantastic. Wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_01Is is you know I've always said we need to make church more like church camp, like figure out ways to do that.
SPEAKER_02It's it's a safe place that you can be your authentic self and to grow more fully in who God has created you to be with other people who are struggling with that same question and understanding in a season of your life where nothing makes sense and where you feel at the same time you need to have it all together. You know, I need to have all the answers. Um, because that's what school's all about, right? Uh is they spend all their day. You gotta have the answers, there's gotta be the right answers. But campus kind of throws that against the wall and says, no, not not not so quick. Let's let's just be and see how we relate with one another and in the process what happens and what growth could be there.
SPEAKER_01Well, and you get a you you get the the power, I think, of a group of people like Lindsay, you were talking about giving the church earlier. I think most churches, I know here it's true, 85 to 90 percent of our operating budget comes from people's gifts. You know, and you would never sit down and in anything that's not of God and say, you know, we're gonna depend on 90% of our operations. We're just gonna depend on the generosity of people. And so it's always amazing and empowering, and it tells me that God is still working. The fact that church after church after church here at Geist, we're able to do a budget every year and able to do all the things we do, primarily because people have freely chosen to give, to be grateful and to give back to God. And it's an act of worship.
SPEAKER_00I think a lot of it comes down to the culture. We can have church kind of like camp. It w it won't be the same. It doesn't it doesn't look quite the same sitting here at 126th and Promise Road is a little bit different than being out in the woods, but a lot of what I've experienced at camp and on mission trips in in places in the church is the culture, and it's a culture of acceptance and of unconditional love. And Camp Tecumseh's motto, and this is something that's always stuck with us, and it really speaks to the looking out for other people and to having a generous heart, is it's called the I'm third motto. Putting Jesus first, others second, and yourself third. And putting yourself third doesn't mean last, but it just it is with an intention to think about and take care of and be open to, supportive, loving of other people around you.
SPEAKER_01And that spells out joy.
SPEAKER_00It does. And if you keep them in the right order, you will have joy. You will have joy. If you have a devotion with a group of eight, nine-year-olds, you might have the letters and show what happens when you put them out of order, how the word doesn't work.
SPEAKER_01Ooh. I think someone just volunteered to teach children Sunday school one week. I love it. We're doing children's moment. Yes, well, children's moment in worship.
SPEAKER_00I I don't think there's an age in this church that I haven't worked with at some point or another.
SPEAKER_01That's true. That's true. So we have, Lindsay, we asked two questions of every guest. In fact, we have a new segment that we're debuting with you at the end. The first question, though, is um is there a TV show, podcast, book, something of that nature that you are watching or reading or consuming right now that you'd like to share and recommend with people? And it doesn't have to be hybrid, as we say to everyone, does not have to be highbrow.
SPEAKER_00So the last book that I read was Kite Runner. Fabulous. Um, I'm fortunate to be part of a book club, and I get so much more out of books when I'm able to discuss them with people. I agree. That is a fabulous book. Um, I'm always looking forward to, and it and it pushes me to read different types of books. I wouldn't have picked that up. Honestly, I wouldn't have picked that up if or suggested it if I hadn't had a conversation with an AP lit teacher at the high school recently that suggested it.
SPEAKER_01Wow. So you just read it recently. I just read it. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like a couple weeks ago. A recent TV series that I've been watching. Um we've gotten into the whole bachelor franchise, and that's something that my son and I do. So The Golden Bachelor.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_00In Bachelor in Paradise, that's not as quality of TV as most other things. Um, but I watch that and Tyler watches that, and then we can kind of compare notes and share what we think about what's going on.
SPEAKER_01It's a conversation point with you and your child, your son.
SPEAKER_00It is. It is. Um, and then the other show uh that Jason and I are watching is the morning show.
SPEAKER_02What season are you on?
SPEAKER_00Whatever the most recent one is. Okay. Third. Are there three?
SPEAKER_02I think there's three seasons. We we have not even gotten into season two, I don't think, for us, but we liked season one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, season one was good.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Whatever season most recently came out, we're getting close to the end of that.
SPEAKER_01Okay. All right. Okay. So that's deep. Our second question, and this is a new segment. It is. It may not be.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna let you introduce it because I forget what we're doing.
SPEAKER_01Well, literally, I was on a I was on a hike one morning. I was on a walk one morning and out in the woods, and it's Kyle. I'm getting thrown out of the segment for the No, no, no, no. Uh, we're gonna play a little game called Would You Rather? You may have played this. But only with one question. And this this may be a 30-second answer, it may be longer. Um, you know, would you rather is you get some people call it forced choice, where you say, Would you rather? and you get two options and you get to pick and then you get to share why it's one or the other.
SPEAKER_00We play this at dinner whenever our family goes out.
SPEAKER_01Oh, so you're gonna be good at this.
SPEAKER_00So that doesn't mean I'm gonna be good at it.
SPEAKER_01Well, this is actually a food a food-related question. So, would you rather? Do you like pancake or waffle?
SPEAKER_00Pancake.
SPEAKER_01Pancake. Why the pancake?
SPEAKER_00Waffles are more hard and crunchy on the outside. I like the fluffiness and rich, they absorb the syrup better.
SPEAKER_01So I think that's key. The absorp that's why I like pancakes better.
SPEAKER_02So can I ask a follow-up question? You can, yes. To the new question? Yes, absolutely. Uh thin pancake or thick pancake?
SPEAKER_00Thicker.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00But anything I have, Danny, I would not want Kyle to start putting weird concoctions on. I would keep them more traditional in my pancakes.
SPEAKER_02That's true. I um on on trips with youth like to create some rather unique um I would not necessarily just call them unique. But they were tasty. I mean, let's do it.
SPEAKER_01You would experiment on the fly with the uh cakes.
SPEAKER_02Well, not pancakes, but also like Oreos with pickles and hot sauce. Uh now what we did find out is a vanilla uh Oreo with the pickle and hot sauce is not as good as the chocolate pickle and and hot sauce.
SPEAKER_00It's it's a weird some of us would rather just eat the Oreo by itself.
SPEAKER_02And not have the pickle or the hot sauce.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01I think that's the way God intended it. But so where where does French toast fit in for you?
SPEAKER_00Ooh, that would be uh at the top.
SPEAKER_01So that would go over pancake.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. I love French toast.
SPEAKER_01So uh breakfast pastries, you would rank it French toast, pancake waffle.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
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SPEAKER_02Hey, Lindsay, thank you so much for making time and coming and sharing your story, but uh more importantly, talking about uh generosity and giving and and the ways in which you have given of your time and talent and your treasure to uh this community of faith of Geist Christian Church. Um, your family is such a gift. Uh you are a gift. Uh thank you for being with us today and to share your story with us and our audience. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for having me.
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