"עשינו טעות שסמכנו על המדינה, הפסיכיאטרית שאלה אותי: מה עכשיו באים?" | פרק 2 - חוק הברנוער הכרה בנפגעי פשעי שנאה

יונתן בוקס היה רק בן 14 כשהרוצח בברנוער ירה בו ובחבריו, עם פציעה קשה צלקות נפשיות וחברים שאיבד הוא חשב שהמדינה תעזור, אבל את הפצעים הוא ויתר נפגעי הברנוער נושאים עד היום לבד. בפרק הזה של הפודקאסט "שוויון בחיים" מדברים על חוק הברנוער הכרה בנפגעי פשעי נשאה מה אפשר לעשות כדי לעזור לנפגעים, למה פגיעה בפשעי שנאה צריכה הכרה שונה מפשע פלילי, ומה ההבדל בין קורבנות טרור שנאה לקורבנות טרור לאומי.

משתתפים:
עומר אוחנה, שירה הדס נקר, עו״ד דניאלה יעקובי, יונתן בוקס.

"שוויון בחיים" צוללת לעומק "חוקי שגיא" – סדרת חוקים שמטרתם לתקן את חוסר השוויון בספר החוקים בישראל.

תודה לצוות ההפקה:
רשת "עושים היסטוריה", עידו שקדי (טכנאי אולפן), תמר דהן (תחקיר), ארז עובד ואילונה הרפז.

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SPEAKER_00 0:11

Martila Tretinitasapartagamovet Lumi, Martila's Mazashani Shamashovatrochev, Litumatli Bahem, Aperekabaya, Sokba Babanoir, the Coletim, Benoissa Limuthan.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Shalom Makha. Aval tegen a kata kuele ze ma za koldbar.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Kolbenadam maze barno, kilu, mazamakom, afhrato akir tamakom. Gamitna Lucha Larotze, Haita, Mam Odmeduyeket, Kilu, Zenira Kilus, Saharoza Rotzehve Zalomishush, the Dati, Stamito Reklitin, Zelobenadam Sharap Ambrush, Mashmait.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

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SPEAKER_00 2:29

I met a Seba, ilomatilaborno kinik atitmicha, oraz rachidasre. Madonim Lakotilikanes, Barim Loki, Zer, Comegil Sheshre, Barimekomat Mesoamush Monaisre. Bli alcohol, blei samim, bli sex kilo. Can I Madrich him? Any that it of not share sakana, sin a tit of mod. Ken, Bathalai, U Arabi Vazing Balo Mahsani to Barah, Yatzami Hutzla Delet, Kilukani Latin to Mahsani, and Kafati Bamakom, still halum, Titoir, Titoer. Lazavan tikov Zalohalom, the Botoregatalo Elcha Pahat Botoregan, Botoregam Gamnira Sagiya Kilumbeze, look shatabem situatia kazot manifahead to pashut. Botoregamhpeziltazmechanizinkayalikiltialagava inzanafalti, the factitazakanyazad loyti meshuttakod. Anzah, Amalital Arba, Vezakalti Kaha, Lan Shulhan Shahimul Listater, Kilo Shabarochali, Marshava, Listater, Sharotti, Shaimunag Uphazar, Itiot Tokyo Shapimita Hat Shulhan, Vazan Ratam Nale Magafim Schloss Shotka Silia Telephone Sony Erickson Azumano the telephone when you're a glam shlovenikaze animate, telephone Nitakti Tasiha Kilo, Yesha Not Barak. Kilo Kara Klumash musicamit kilo colour washwa musica itabareka, basikwa laha musica it nakdown as a shadakula shock last mariah kena but shoot him damsarof uh right yet an weekani shavtia gav I care we gav ashum bow paramedicin the lanazhibrata with holy lamashakila hat lobatela gashafty trauma yad the kaz bow paramedicum gam lopinuti loklumib trauma loklum at shove bets him shovy magavets and damem should paramedic bookaboytabagvo mazalpogal mazalpagalovasimet mobasatim kized of tiny kweet kazabamti u tvarka. Vazumisto merli Tagia Tame Tumtama Tatafu Atame Tumtami Kilalti Ya rubi bagavt Sovevoti. Vazum Sovevoti Vaz Hevre, Hevre, Revre, Bolepop, Patsuanoush, Patsuanoush. Wow. Gashakivadame Yotse, Vani Clash, Yot, Tervani, Pashutmate. Philip should come to the Fanifta, the Mamma, Tabanchliata Bachahim, and Yomerito. Hadavarkaze Takwadlots.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Aval Khavayan She Atave Ifga Barnoir of Rim, Havayan Kheretki, Enlachem, Reshed Bit Hon, She Stanishim Kharim.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Orido Tanuzav Tahotchela Mana, Sha Man Egotanukarega. La Lomeoot Khashovla Vokka May Mima Yomaima Kharela Barnoir, La Sotatzagotla Matzlemot, Vebtu are Wepso in the Henlanga, Musta Machnolam Dina, Vasinutauchi is ta Machnolam Dina.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Sura Nul istamachani Mastomeret Ma Maya Shamaivtihu.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Ezra, kilo ka Ezra la Mishpahta Shakulot, La Dimpsuim, Ezra, Kalkalit, Tanyo Diama Shamdina Titaniya, the Valbetsemakalon Tanyad, Kola Shanim, Kisehadash o Ezoshuezra o Mimun Zrakmanashim kilo. Atata Manashim shoot him kilo, anashim to himshe. Mlotha tatma kiss. Kilo ni hai bem dinakilo kilo pofrit kwarichin. Local, local. Anya fila holagi ani batilapov.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Kamaki sagalgalimole.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Anigiliti, the batterzaimioni.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Uftati anda shima nimtalifnashid, any otashes the nihushim.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Tisakim spam.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Hameshekel?

SPEAKER_03 12:24

Hames.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

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SPEAKER_03 12:32

Ani hashati Hamesh talafim shekel, that be the same.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

Kisal sa adsa Hamesh Shivat Shivatalafim Shekel, the Magiawal, Kisaochel, Miun, Ken Anakim, Kisakilu Fedim, Lomitka Play, Vedemishkal.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Hameshalafim Shekiel. Ma Ken.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Zenakispergam Almitash Malito is a tsudrifu amidon shelf shaltimlana shimparap kumptovlanashimparaplegim? Shalol kim?

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Azamitkan kaze shat, ne madala, vezhumerlhala marhti kulvetsamo takol, ve elze, le tari enliat kolamh shwaze ki Aval Ava Zekulkahmen Utaq mi atoda be metzleha aval, kimat kolle shvoy, miasha zekatawaba televizia, patsua tsa, la madla lechhet, ale raglaim bayonio, tanashime ratim, tasim sa kime eta e kadusalbe ki sodgalgalim ki wanak ruim dwarimadhimim sheshna shim.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Imetani medyukbetalih shel shikumasha mani shmanachodashimali kratio sot alihari fuiitom namalim Sadealiha Sadealiharuki Sukhalom medoleh, Avalom namanimishutak abalanyo sad the kam ki optim kilunya beikarlish kel shamerta vahhe ragli mvezamehze. Enly. Ami donolikamishim elef shekel nagin. Shaza shut me Bazalim shani uhnagid Bazelamasham dinazerbo. Gafilum mitazeba tik kilo sheshli the mitromo to yltai streamish elf shekel. Mitachashmalit. Lamazelvarim shham dinalozer by hims the lemagial mitah mitaval mitatya kid. She tishim centimetre. Ainzar anitzerik mitazugit, kenny mish to veva tani meshutakba mehzeva mata kilo nyoshenba merika shela mita.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Kata name vugarlo ya umerle stamp tishan bemitas yale.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

As misrada bru as misra de brut uh asbizmanozra debrutha varla kupot holimevantifui, lomishane, avalam rulize oštat lokatya khid the litraot, o shatalom kabel klum, lehti relevad, a maktya filo astaviuli, lefhot taskum shala mita, mitatyachid kama shyola, titnulia nifhothshuyashlim, lo, o mitatya kidoklum. Asbe metodaraba, ladifkurlol kabel kloom.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Bazatwa zaliotsuga, lef sukbet. Kim nifzataba milkama, azakhranz kabelegal bayonit kada la lechedba, kata gibor israel, me machengi bra israel, kenana khnus mahim shame kabli metatzi u doze avura avval. Imnifzata lobemilhama. Niftata kemedina, nich shalala gyanalecha, biglal shaata homo, azata sukzain, belom talot kabel kloom.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

Daniana nihabi sholotak, yesh biklala gdara kazot shel maze pesha sina, ve kino brinpo hokse mekirbenifga epishes sina, val maze pesha sina.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

As colunko ng shhibi hoko n shin, shizebma hokka plili, enakdara le pesesha sina, mishtam shim ba mkdirim tamach, pesha sina, kenesiba me yu khedet, shibavrotmesuyamot, betsmeviala nisha mukberet nagit beavurochile biryonut be avrot reavurotele mutmesuyamot, siba sh and chevet le pesha sina onesye ka full ve ad Ubilvache me dubar beavurocha onishale mulome al esru. So betahomrim la chokmeshanega mahasibasha sita macha sita? Rakinesibah s meprinatroko on china nachnom debrim. Rakinesiba, shalula la vilematzav sh onishye chulalechaye mukbar, onish yoterhamoo meoneshaalal adam s itnegba bionutkaf Adam. Ema sita zami meniim sharli kolem yugdruk pesha sina ifalya latila like onish mukbar, onishemaniim zakayo. The can me tihas bidjukleze le manimshal sinashamufnet klape kwut mesuyomot, shagov a kutsot, shanakno mitasimelemere zutminite inanim mikdrim, echasim biduk sham, aval zak le tok mod specificem uhyata onashi utalot a loto adam, sh bit uh, sh beetem a hokhola kechol masha kshuba pichasina, ahocomer Pesasina Bakhumu, the Honon Anachnozim le hachmirba ni shaklapa, no sad.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Abalatemedem shekuimzayava viza piguaken at Boko.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

Anachno Tim Yes push name showim, A Michor Pili Sociali, Shama, Medobrimala Pizu, Ua Michora Nusaf, Ba Michora Sociali Elanuschum is there, Chemitiches Lepish eighteen ah, stomatpecha chemofne, klepe me chamat netiaminit zutmik the ridwayutze baile Lorgzagavgam a dati Pesachenovaklepek vutza datit or datit, kolatvarima ele, lonik nasim, et mullim yu khadim lepcheim kele a mikrai kid chekem, zeme te nivgaypulot iva shenivga kitusa mi yonikale zepigua, eruatero, o pesasin a shoof nailav kitutsa, mi asirsuha, um Israeli, biduk, aravi uye zekai, let gmulim mamdina, bemtouto bitua khalumi.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Vedsa miashpoitwisa shel Adehan migiyaku medina, nahon kiana khumrim Amedina mrgishha, vemit na eg, kilo yashlahyut, klapano se haloumi, nahon vimi ko shelet bagana, al khaye, o al gufamu a labitach, ve bo afilu alakouch, nahon pagale khatili rani ba bait, hamedina izo chemefatza out, khalobi tu ak shelabai chrha, avalba e k shera zek, klapei kwutzot miut, nahon amedina lomekha meret zota khayucheli.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Absurd khigadol, use akwutsota elekhofe foot. Ara medina bava meret annachnu, okay, nagan aliudim ipnet terror le umani. Wahukram za pigua shabuamika blueta pitsuim shelem Babar noa, yeshvu. Khavuwashali uudim? Shemgamuim, or lesbia to transim. Vemgam, nivgeuki amedina nikalam milagem, leza straight it. A khuladim shaguba bigal shhayudim. Biglassiba kere.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Pizu, gamba mikrash nifga, upitsui lobekalpim van vistomet gamim orbe, shha bener sachim ravime ba shviboctober, stumret Kamumash gamp nenda tohroti Holim Kabel Pizu, kazabenish Kamashamedina, Ani Kenegid She Kikon, e Avira, a pitsui ma gea ma vryan.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Zotomeret Adam Shepogea beadam, anim dabereta la cleli lola Nivge puloteva, as itnalnik dualik plili, Vakreshoto adam you shabbalik plili, shallitbomi menobalikuimala nezicugram, a mikreshelanu po mikresh adoma filoita benadam,razo, thezachnubemekimatavim absurde micrashulonichul kak arbe shanim, uniz kakle la lave la chicumve, the colo kabele tapzu be met be metu o tzikle gestroumot, o ne laxlevatim.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Ami krashal hagam noga betemba sugiashel Fdelim ben sugiim shonim shelptiot sofoshel de war it a ptiashel Hameodroim Bilazai Zakhtale akaram hereotel. Blu mato and a shim.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Kibayim uh regel bayad, loi lockitzva ki blu aval ki blu liitki, lolet'mit me tochkalish ki blu rakad lifne shaloshanim, kitsvalet'mitut. Zalaial Zayaz Neshawa Kaharei or by Sasha. Ani Anyagmasha, big oti ki Rulfneh, Arabakishanaki mat, kepostraumati, bavada bes Shumbusha uh psychiatri tomeratly, maniskarta. As Katufsha mazizbao, Pele Guf Tachton, Vzeve, Vashabanulasotat Viaz or Din, because that Silumim Shellan to him. As in Toksha Reotaya, Ventuak Shalam Shidran Ignaz, Neilam Vaminoteh, Loiskim Lolda Berimorim Schlefa, Loliv Goshotam, the Mamisha Tangam Roshalnutrifuit. Kizayam Shabat Veloya of Mukhe, Menateh Mukhaza Menateh Toran, Anibatuwah Kwa Filoim Kola Shani Shani Hosheval Zegam, V Pitom Dafkasir Ton Shellin Ignaz, and itwah Shala Muda Shidrashouid, Zotasiba, Shekhuk Sagi, Mhukim Vemloshum Constellati Mishpatita Heret.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

Kik Shesagi nafal, vehani, levasov ken hukharti, minuli ofelet socialit, shetaf kida, ayali dogli, velidog shani mkabelet shirut, shanin drashle kabel, mi kolaman genonim ve velachen hokakarab and ifisha.

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Kiluzho, Amazal Shali kihol kiloze vemet anashimp, shutim, lokl sham shikiluze amutot ktanochet, azru, azru kilzema t ima shali, the lodoveritivrit, azbiklal, loi mama shtowdibra, the imlo e manilo loinovymze loinus ordimedze, ve gam loitalanu ezra lobesio a dira lo clum zasibagam shani shharti gamotho chaim extra mushpa tela shomer si.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

Ugamh is the gamme chuverlev cuy orbanishim sha tzhe li doglem viltapelbaem ve gam yaladim shakitrium cluma dimuk, biduk, amounte the varanachon, the ledim, the eladim, and a bar noir the eladim, the no the can't shalaze kulkach mashmoti, shlaimut kulkach, kolakhaim lifname, gamim gamim medubarba dam shouti mekut the shinui mashmoti m not nim etatipul shitrich, with a shikum shit, the pashut ru machinechaim, the peshut as nah.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Anangilitin shamefgaulote vanangido muka, azaitaba. Okay, loler, beta kanyazo kamoh the shim, machava shalielet kill Amazal Shelly, Shanifzati Begil Arbaisre, velogil stream, or chaisre frotal zaniomer to the kh.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Anihavchulaim uh Kulkachnoa him, Basipusha Barnoir, Vasiposha Rita Bemitsaraga Vabi Rusharaim, Shel Shira Banki, Me Ever Labgia uh, I'm the gamon.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Mastoma Kilu emi o deo se figua mazam shana ravio de la kachneshekhama sakin, uyoba nashim, sota the barmashara viose. We would do a deo said the nation haiva tergawahama.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Lolofihock, no gaipishesina. Uh, sad, lemishuniv gamipisina. We love that it determined. Sada? Um and shim mi lola soter ruimke as she kruta wim and a brittinut. Mosha wazem in utak beteror, manif game. Yeshtanifgraim.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Beshtam not a colon, gamtayazoche, kolma, kolkatawaim katavala barnour, be koltic show, itlumshaneza roots Pigua. Pigua the barno, happ figua, the lob figua velon a lime, colbenadam shanim, colbenadam sh kolbenadam fil shalom satiba barnor, memorabt, zalomukarke pigua. Eh zalamukar the pigua kol de barina shalam, mrbershaloni on ebekilukolambeshock, coolam.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Daniela, him ya viroke mazim, kseya viro et hocke rabinivga episha sina uya zo gamla shim shenivge barno, asabidu kenian e bayozmucha you are the om la vir hoceshibetseme notenta gmuulimle missinivga me pesha sina, caze ale rica netiaminitag ofzelok netiaminit ve zeme debergamal missionivgami pesha sinami hamadat, quutsadit mozadati we khaozebaze, culla chakika, noada, becem letapelba mikrea ze la barno ve bikshu shulatahok, thuul retroactivit malpine vishmone biduke de sea leoniv la kutzazo, basov chukim, meragashemhukekim, emlot nimetasaj katovba mbeseller, asof Bahoka specifiaze.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Umbrim shui tentasad lomeregashu mehukak, elam mi alpine bishhmone, kedaili clol, gametnifgaya barnoir, kivanche hokka krav nivga pisasina, gam tadahum colo hokka barno, afadlomitalema udazo. Vela kenbe sem retroactive babidam sme alpinevalul misha historia. Vebsha nashani gamoshara Daniena, anilkwasavba kneset, menaselakem gamet hokrabanifge pisasina. Ve ahathina fotochanishom, the shakokza yakar. Shahokase yakarla medina ki uyakirberben ifame. Vimzot, animstekel sh nya lenuke medina, sedarisgomadina kiasara million ezrahim, vaniga mstekeralim shekarulanu shwepishasina kele shanachuk mikrim mashul mashegamenachem sh and be met kolkacharbep shame zelph hot mashagamenachem. Biduk anaknom the brimetal me hot mikrim, said anachrom Yash kolin mikrimbo the name shakulano mikrim, eh abandon, shira bank mikrimmas alma the brimkolano shimanus uh ye kolkacheka.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

The brin mal tome simle liftol ho kasimla rotlanushia aludalaku bati buriten yotsu mot vilaken gun zebetsamasibasha adoma hokaz nignaz, anikan maskima sh nahon layoman the brim krime krim odmodne kudatiam, baroshu varushona mikrim shela bernoir, zamikrim, vanakumed the brimkamu.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Fair anilo dehani kaman yuhali setze ani mchen langer bekosha martya ni loit semizeani ni kamwala ni loi tabed, kiz aniloma minbze, aval the met khatishana, kimachana shel downim loitian eighty zombie, gastisha barega shamushen langer mashua sa ragashi otpomp khattaftishteka do rim, vevrukwa the balpame strim, tame strim echan khatoshana. Anini rali botorega yoter, mayom shala piguat smobi, venafalti vedimamti, khbal khat taftiotergamiti botembatelaviv shulyazi baza itali nesiya khazaralifa.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Besof, basof, basof omer Zinian shel sedera difuyot, kmo sham dinaya dalavovela gid, and khwaimbem dina shpo uh kolonusazil piguim kolifga yiva andahno metat film kyeshpo makat medina, anashim yotinla kovich vimbeze bit kafe, venifgaimi pigua, gam pishina al rekashil zut al rekan ityaminit zelobe zelobo takamut, vanakuthim, litihesle simid the fouyochelano, velazola nashimele.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Yonya, sium maladhan the varakashov shaita or sessha nashim yedu, legama shmautit, yhulaliota karam bene fishesina.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Killu, uhzbizmanoshame kivzazaya shambar, prinat miha filulati hotovgam tafpsychot, shim kimatbishum nyeladim that himatavan lordilhabita gum time shallet kafe, psychosot, psychiatrium vetro foot. Anil sonai lafehatonim gam trushadhoseronim regashika missa kanatraim the cold. Lama ni, lama, lama, baza kaver if sacilo lamash mama tila kilo lam shikyot can lyot bedikohza revota la kever la lorza. Mizarote hazashi, kmuto. Yoni todarabasha matla klim shoch that's mehami, tohikama, tiahlim shoch him sho himswachatavali todasha mamshik with the matilo, fair on your martilo. Ani she odma you wash any any kilo, any munakuna, had mash my ken the metal Aval Ken Kshainugamba kenis the theisenko Isenkond de be because I ma mem Zamushlam, Zakilo Ken, wow shavy yet to Hadmashma met kilu colo, and Lomsa Zelba val trauma khat me baby kilo kilo Mishhah lifoto Yemishu Hadashaniraki Arihotoal Bemet Altaftiah, Kiaftahot and Ashim Shane Madima Laftahot Kale Met Safimi Medina Kil Shazo, Medina, Sheftabo Thimugan kilo a Medina, Gafshalha Lefe him Anochisha Anok Lam of Tiah shoot. I me the Bera La Barno, I tother mechabedom Bimcom, Anya Zolop to him, Anya Zelmashi What Halot Cadencia, but so Michelle Niftau, ML Shemetim, Vesovim Kilo. Michel Havai Zelohpatl, any game of Vino to Kumah, Patl, Zioni had Niftza Barnoir. I mean, I should like I am no sorry.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Yoni, Todaraba Shaita Itanu, Todalachem Kem koshem.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Zohimotano, Velemetem Nashimka Mohem, um Atikval Lanu.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Anashimka mocha, Gamata, Koliomsha Bucher, Le Kum, Lam Shik, Velo, Ze atan Khelecmanian.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

Had Mashmait.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Todaraba Daniela, Todahomer, Vetarabalachem, Shaitem Itanu, Bapekazeshivon Bahim, Podcast Al Hukes Sagi, Le Zechhir Raf Seren Sagi Golan. Todarabal Resetnaya Ulpan Vetamara Dana Latahkir, Le Erezoved Veilona Rapaz, it's the furanulitmihab Shivion, Habsuet Hukesagi Begogel, Shatfutim, Vachirashov, it's ulat biarak, le mishem of the shivion, but ereshivion la shulkhan, vetum khim, hukesagi.