"The People Who Never Knew They Changed Us" / The Things We Keep Episode 3

In this episode, Daniel talks about the people who enter our lives without ever knowing how much they change us. He takes us back to when he was almost fifteen, when walking into a radio station for the first time opened a world he could not have imagined.

He talks about showing up even when nobody was expecting him, becoming the “Kid” everyone called him, spending his afternoons behind the scenes of live radio, and discovering music in a way that stayed with him for life.

Along the way, he reflects on the small moments, the unexpected people, the music we carry with us, and how sometimes the most important people in our story never realise they were there.

A story about showing up, taking chances, music, and the people who never knew they changed us.

The Things We Keep is hosted by Daniel, a musician, fashion designer, and creator exploring the moments, memories, and ideas that shape who we become.

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Well we're back. You know, there are some moments in our lives that we we remember, and today in a way or another we are going to We're going to try to remember together those kind of moments and why because that's one of the most um it's one of the questions that I I ask myself often like very very very often because I'm always wondering why there's certain moments that it just stick to our memories and they're simple moments, very small and quite um quite insignificant if you're thinking about it. Like sometimes there's a very, very small little thing, like uh I don't know, a sound, it could be a room, it could be a smell, it could be like a very small little thing that could remind you of a moment back in time that was important for you. And sometimes, and this is the weird part, a very big moment in our lives could just shift into the unknown of our own memory. And that for me is something that I I kind of hardly understand it, you know. I don't know if it ever happened to you um peeling an orange. When I peel an orange, I could easily smell the Christmas, and that for me is an incredible fact. Not because I can remember Christmas, not because it is an orange that I know I would like, because I know the taste of that orange, I know what Christmas usually does to us, but what is the impredible part about that uh happening is that that particular gesture action of me putting that orange brings a version of myself, a very younger piece of me. It just brings it back into my memory. And if I had to compare this with the moment when um I graduated, I struggle remembering that moment. I was I was surrounded by people that hundreds, if not thousands, of people at that moment, and everyone was so happy. Graduation day, like school was over, responsibilities we thought we have them, and those moments they absolutely disappeared, and somehow I don't remember that day. And this is something that for me probably will be part of the episode um that we are going to uh this this little conversation that we are trying to build up today. And I am just trying to understand why some little moments that they seem completely insignificant do come back to us over the years, and why we usually understand only later how important they are. Cause it's just really much later in in life that we actually understand that it is an important moment for us, uh, or particularly for me, because I was just referring to that little example that I gave you um a few seconds ago. And there is maybe another thing that I have been thinking about, and uh if I have to compare this, you know, balance in between the small little moments and the bigger moments that they just shift or not from our memories. I am trying to bring this topic into the conversation today, which is about the people, not just the moments. The people that have been there in our lives, somehow they had a big role or a minor role in our existence, and somehow we haven't noticed. Because I guess I I bet as it happened with me, definitely happened with you as well too. There are a lot of people that he cannot remember that somehow influenced your life as it is today. Ladies and gentlemen, I am Daniel, I am back uh with another episode from The Things We Keep. Joey is here with me as he's always going to be because he's just supervising the whole doing, and hopefully, we're doing a good thing. And yes, this is what we're gonna try to talk today. We're gonna try to understand again the things we keep, and what is the story behind those things that we're actually keeping, and um you know the the introduction of this episode was very simple because we I I have tried to to give you a little bit of a reference as a small little memory that comes back to me and brings me Christmas, for instance. But um we if if one of those moments like Christmas, for example, stayed with me for all this time and 30 35 years after, I still remember it. It's it's because there is probably at some point it was something that happened with an orange to just like somewhere inside of that little head of mine, and my brain wanted me to remember. As for example, I'll give you another example. I was not even 15 years old, I was a little not even 15 because it was somewhere in the um it was the October uh of that year, and I remembered that um it was the circumstances just brought me to a fact, the fact of actually walking together with some friends into a radio station. And I did that because we'd uh at the high school at that moment we had to present a project, it was pretty cool, it was everything. I didn't know what actually I knew what the radio is. I could I I I love to listen to the radio, um, and I still do today. But I never I had no idea about what actually a radio station looks like. How is it actually working? What is the whole thing behind the radio that we know that we get home, we turn it up, and uh we just listen to whatever it comes up from there. And I can still remember that moment when I walked in. I I remind you and me, myself, to I was not 15 yet. I was a little boy, I was just starting the high school and having that cool project, and all of my the colleagues, the other three colleagues that I was with, and we were trying to present this this project to to the manager of the radio station, they started to talk to them. I was completely absent, but not in a way that you might think, it is in a very particular way because somehow when I've entered that radio station, I felt like something really important is actually happening. Um dear me, after all this time, if I could just look at that little version of myself and just like really tell him like, gosh, I'm still talking about this. And I'm 49 years old and I'm actually remembering that moment. Um I don't know what it was. I can't explain it. I know I don't know if it was all these people. Um there was so many people there, you know. Everyone everyone looked like he had something to do. And whatever they were doing and whatever everyone was doing, it looked important. I I never seen anything like it. I haven't. I haven't, I I never seen and experienced anything like that. And I I I saw these huge speakers, and for the first time when I've entered that studio I remember the music hit me differently. I can still if if you're asking me what I was wearing that day, I don't remember. If you're asking me what was the track, the song that it was playing when I've entered the studio, the actual production studio and the radio station, I can tell you for sure that it was Eric Clapton, it was Layla. And I don't know how many of you remember that song and uh the way that that guitar that Eric plays the way that that guitar is crying, I literally felt that cry. For me was so goosebombing because I never experienced music with that kind of depth, and maybe because I didn't have a huge hi-fi surround studio, whatever audio at home, that I could just listen to music in a in a completely different kind of way, maybe because I don't know why. It was just that radio station, that song, and that moment that I can if Layla will start playing anywhere in the world at this moment, tomorrow, the day after, ten years from now, and I know that it will take me back to that October when the way that Eric and Layla's uh Eric Lepton's Layla sounded that for me it was one of those moments when I understood that music is the thing for me, that is going to be something very important for me. And not just for a year or two, not just while I will grow up. Music will always be the thing, and I don't regret it because even so I have heard Layla before and I knew I liked Harry Clapton a lot, and uh I just realized that inside of that production room that everything has a magic way of transposing into reality. And as cold as Clepton's guitar sounds in Layla's, it's very unplugged, it's very, it's it's rough, it's quite, it's almost metallic if you're thinking about it. Um I felt it human and I felt a human connection with music through Layla, through that song, and I think that that is pretty incredible because music has this magic way of making us feel certain things that otherwise we can just talk about them, but we will never really know what we're talking about. I you know, at that age, I was not even 15 if you remember, I didn't know anything about that song. I knew how it went, but I didn't know that the song was written in the 70s by the Derek and the Dominoes. I didn't know that actually Eric Clapton was playing that song with the Derek and the Dominoes. I haven't had any clue about the transition that actually the song does from that guitar intro to the piano outro, which is absolutely genius, if you're asking me. And years after, I think that is just if I refer to music moments and what actually made a difference for me, I think that on that hallway at that radio station in that music production room was one of those moments. And uh funny thing, uh you know, something that that hit me so bad, but I didn't know at that moment. I didn't know why. The next day I went to school, as I always did, and right after school, I went back to the radio station. And I found a way, because I could always talk my way into everything and anything. I found a way with a guard to actually let me get in again. And I'm not going to bother you with all the details, but I kept going back every single day. I went back in that radio station, I found from the first moment, the second day when I went in, I found a corner in one of the hallways riding in between the newsroom and the production room, and I just stayed there. Found myself a little place. I sat down literally on the ground, I got myself my little I had like a little notebook, and I was just with a pencil, just finding a way to find something to do without bothering anyone but being there and listening to the music and watching those amazing people at work. I don't think I I'm actually pretty sure that nobody noticed me. I don't think anyone noticed our project that we went with the day before. The manager, I don't even I don't I basically don't even remember his face that day. But I just remember I somehow I can see that little guy sitting in that little corner always being there in that radio station. I can always visualize my my way, my but exactly the time when I was just leaving school after being in class and walking to the radio station and spending hours there. I haven't felt thirst or hunger. I didn't need basically anything. I was just sitting there. Um it was stronger than me, and it was stronger, it was stronger than anything else that I knew before, and uh I couldn't put my finger on it and say this is happening. I just knew every day that I have to go back there, and I did for weeks actually. Um It's funny because um you know I I by staying there obviously they got very familiar with my face being there. And it wasn't like today. I mean people were not very they were not worried about you stealing. I was just a very skinny little boy that I had my little notebook and was just looking at everything and trying to understand everything that was happening. I was listening to every single piece of conversation and in that radio station. I've started to know people, I started to know who is who, and I started to know what they were doing and uh who is uh writing the news, who's editing the news, who is actually the speaker of the news, how do they get, how do they work together in a team, what's happening, how the music goes, um, who is the produ the producer behind the show and and so on for like weeks. I remember weeks. And um it's funny because these weeks turned into months, and um I could never my parents were I remember my mom was asking me when I was coming home, like, where was I? And I was lying a lot. I said I was with the boys playing football, I said I was at school, the after school doing extra things. Um I was always lying about something, but I'm pretty sure mom at some point knew that I'm doing something that I'm not supposed to do, and uh she was not very worried, I think, and I'm guessing, because she had a lot of trust in me, and it was a good thing she did. But myself, those moments I was just discovering a new world. It was the world of music that I had no access to it. Because unfortunately, growing into a family with not a lot of means and everything, I did not have everything that we have today, with all these you know, gadgets and all of the things what we can just use in order to just you know listen to music, watch movies, and see everything. I have none of those, so for me, discovering music through that radio station was literally a treasure. Um so I think everything like the I created myself a little dimension besides school. I love going to school, but going to school for me was um something that um I had to do somehow, you know, because the society asked me to go to school. I liked it, I loved it. I I I I I'd been through school, I never quitted it. But I was just waiting for that two o'clock in the afternoon, 2 30, just to get my things and head to the radio station. And about four weeks after doing that, and remember it was um it was it was I think it was almost no, it was more than four, I think it was about six weeks altogether. Anyways, it was the winter. So I was just in my corner of the radio station, and I just heard someone from the news department saying um to one of the other guys in the other room, that man, I am so hungry, I would die for a hamburger. And it was like a very cool little hamburger place, like three blocks down, and he said to the other guy, because he was editing the news at that moment, and he was said to the other guy, like, would you just go grab some burgers for all of us? There were like four of them at that moment in the station. And this guy said, like, well, I don't really feel like it's cold, and I don't really want to go. I don't know how, and I don't know why. I said, I'll go. I think this is the that was the first moment after all those weeks when they have realized I'm still there because they they all turn and look at me. I got scared of the fact that I said I'll go. Because I I was not in control of that, that it just came out naturally, spontaneously. Just I said, I'll go. There's nothing wrong with it. And that guy looked at the other guy next. Him, then looked at the lady in the in the control room, and I said, Christina, would you want one? And she said, Yeah. So immediately they were not questioning the fact of me going and getting the burgers, but they were thinking about what to get, each one of them. I got my my notebook, got the burgers that I wanted, the drinks, I left, I got them, I came back, everyone was eating, everyone was very, very I didn't even I haven't got anything for me, but not because I was not hungry, because I felt so useful at that moment. I felt amazingly useful, like being part of like a bigger thing that I ever dreamt about. I just bought six burgers. Well, if I think today it's like sounds so ridiculous, but that's what happened, and I loved it. I sat down in my corner, and I remember that from that day, every single other day I was coming back, I was gridded, and they just somehow knew that I'm there, and they were aware of the fact that I was there. My whole story that I'm trying to tell you is that how some how how how important was for me as a kid to be as persistent with something that I felt. I felt something bigger than me, I felt something very important, which was music, and I felt like my place is there. I haven't asked for it, anyone, maybe the guard, but he started to like me a lot. And whenever someone needed to do something in the copy machine, they will say the kid will do it. Uh, when when when when someone else wanted to um go buy um a floor bouquet for his fiancee, he sent the kid to do that. I am pretty sure that at that point nobody knew my name. Everyone was referring, and and and and when they were talking between themselves and they were just finding myself something to do, they were referring to me as a kid. And nobody I don't think nobody decided that the kid was part of that radio station. I haven't did that myself uh as well, but I just continued going there and I had access to every single show that I wanted to listen and be part of it, and I was just right there, and I was just listening to every piece of music that it was up there on the speakers, and I was looking at every single CD because back then all of the music at a radio station was actual physical, it was there. There were like thousands of thousands of CDs and cassettes, and it was amazing, and I always had the possibility to they kind of like gave me this freedom of listening to all that music. So that is the moment when my myself opened to music completely, and uh it was magic, it was absolutely magic. I'm trying to uh I'm trying to remember this moment, and um, you know, I eventually said to my parents as well, too, that that was how I was spending my time, and I remember how nobody understood uh why a radio station, because it was so random, because I had nothing to do with it, because no one really in my family understood radio uh as as as as um the definition of something that someone will do for other thousands of people without waiting for anything in return. It wasn't like today when you was expecting when you were expecting so many followers on your on your um Instagram and uh the radio station has to just like compare this graphics of audience with all of the other radio stations. That's bullshit. Back then, everything was everything was about the passion of someone, an individual sitting at the back of a microphone, and listen to the music that he liked and somehow try to have other people around him uh liking the same kind of music. And I was in love with everyone at that radio station, the passion be behind everything that they were doing, the ones that they were doing the news, the ones that they were doing the evening shows. I remember that it was um later on I got to work with this guy, um Adi. And I remember how how incredibly smart that person was, and still is today, I'm pretty sure. Um every single time he was opening the line at the microphone was saying something that he was catching me off guard, and I love that. Because watching a movie, you can expect kind of like what's happening, you know. You can you can the intuition can tell you what where the script is going and everything. Listening to a song, you can easily do that. Talking to or listening to a person, a human, that it's opening that microphone line and is actually saying something, you don't know what that guy is going to say. You don't know what kind of uh I don't know. I think that the only thing that I remember it was how incredible it seemed for me that someone can just open that line on the mixer, talk into a microphone, and somehow I knew that thousands of other people in my city could actually just listen to that voice. It was absolutely incredible. Um you know, from a psychological point of view, there is something very interesting about the whole story that I'm talking, that I'm that I'm trying to to to tell you. And um it's it's it's when we are trying to become extraordinary familiar with um something that it's um comfortable at the beginning, you know, because for me it was comfortable to go into that corner, into that uh radio station because I found my way in. It was challenging in the beginning because the guard didn't want me to want me to go through, but then he understood I'm harmless. And but then everything became so comfortable and everything became so familiar to me. And repetting like repeating one action that makes you feel comfortable, I think it changes the way we perceive the whole reality. Um and it's not a joke, um, because nothing dramatic has to happen for you to feel good about one thing. I knew that I want to listen to music, I knew I wanted to go into the radio station. I knew that if I'm asking someone for permission, I am not going to have it. So I find a way in. And I became the errands boy of the radio station. I was the kid that was doing everything and anything for anyone, and about four months into my life at that moment, I already passed and I I turned 15. And I do remember one day. And it was this evening show that I was telling you about it, and when it was happening, it was um there were two people that were working together all the time was the producer and the speaker, the the uh um the entertainer of the whole show, and it was pretty interesting because about 40 minutes into the show, uh the actual um uh producer um felt sick and just said simply, I can't attend, I can't do this. This is impossible. I can't produce the show tonight. And somehow everything happened in such a way that uh Diab the morning producer um was sick as well, too. And they had to cancel the show. Uh I think you guessed it right. I was still there, but I was I was not nobody anymore. I was the kid that was always there. And this kid again said I'll do it. This was not a burger anymore. This was more than going and get water for somebody. This was more than buying flowers, this was producing a night show. I was fifteen. I had no knowledge about mixing and uh you know if some of you remember the mixers and the radio stations with those huge platforms with all these buttons. But uh remember I was in that radio station day by day, day by day. And I didn't know but me being there, I was not just the kid on the floor sketching something on his notebook. Somehow as a sponge, I absorbed all of the information around me. And I remember the guy, the manager, that it was uh he looked at me and he said like kid, this is serious matter. I mean, we are not talking about you going to the copying machine and this is are you are you telling me you can do this? And I said yeah, I think I can do it. And at that point we were about probably ten minutes into the show, and I did it. And the feeling of me sitting into that chair It was I think one of the first times that I sat into a chair that I just that it's moving and and turning around for me. Wow. Yeah, you might be laughing right now, but it was just incredible. I sat down right there and I was definitely shitting my pants because I said I'm gonna do one thing and I was pretty sure I'm gonna fuck it up. But I didn't. I I knew my way in. I knew the channels in the control room over the um the entertainer. I knew my channels into the newsroom with the the the news guys. I knew with the music, I know how to mix in the music, and just keeping docking under their voices where they were talking. I did struggle at the beginning a little bit with um you know there was this advertising little uh pieces that you had to put in from time to time, and there I did I did struggle a little bit, but I did it. That was the first time in in my life when I felt that I have done something so important, bigger than anything else that I've done before, and that kid, that persistent kid, got on that production chair and helped with the production of a show on a radio station. I going home that night, I was um I was um I don't know how I got home. Probably I ran. I think I ran. It was very cold. I got home and I was I was so happy that when I explained to my mom what I did, I don't think she understood sh half of what I've said. She just knew that somehow I was very happy and um I was very happy because um I when I went back the next day, they smiled. They said hi. They liked me, they liked having me there. I was not just very weird, skinny kid sitting on hallway and trying to just like listen to the song that was coming out from the production room. So in a sp in a very strange way, you know, my when everyone today is asking me why DJ Kidd, why did you keep that name? It was not something that I ever thought about it. I didn't have to. I just came up naturally. I was always the kid, and I will always be the kid. Somehow, if you're asking my wife today, she will still refer to me as the kid. Because I don't want to grow up. I wish I am not going to grow up because as a kid I always had this my expectations in life as a kid were so big towards myself. I always wanted to do whatever I do without letting myself down. I don't want to do anything to be ashamed of, and because of this way, this kiddie kind of way of doing it, I will never want to disappoint people that I really, really um love. People that I really like to have around me. Because when you do respect you and your doing around you, it is impossible to hurt the other ones around you, I think so. And kids usually are doing that much better than what we're doing, and um 15 years old, that was a moment that it just um changed my life. In the beginning of this episode, we said we I said that I'm going to talk about those people or moments that it changed our lives. And um if somebody will ask you, what is that moment that really changed your life? Probably for me it was the burger. It was the burger moment when that guy wanted a hamburger and I said I'm going. And somehow it was not even just the hamburger moment, but it was that guy that wanted the hamburger that when I said I'm going, he was okay with it. The same idea is weeks later, months later, when the producer got sick, and I said I'm gonna do the show on his behalf, and that person gave me the possibility to do it. They actually said, Okay, try it. That person changed my life, had such an important saying in my existence, and somehow we've started this episode thinking about people that have just influenced our lives and we don't talk about them and we don't mention them all the time. This is one of the moments that I would like to mention that guy. I don't remember his name. That's funny, isn't it? I barely remember his face. How incredible is that? I I do remember the day when I got married to my beautiful woman. I don't remember the shoes I was wearing. But I do remember when I peeled an orange, the Christmas of 35-36 years ago. This it's incredible. There is so much to talk about it because we give it for we take it for granted, you know, and uh we shouldn't. Because um whatever we think we whatever we think it's normal when happens, it might just not be normal and it might be a way that life says this is a pretty cool moment, and it's pretty bold. This is when life it's changing for you. And I I actually think that it's a privilege to be able to detach yourself and look at this and say, Oh my god, it is incredible. That person really marked my life. And it's it's not even about time at the end of the day, because sometimes we can refer to all of this happening as as as time, you know. I remember the days that I was going to the radio station, so then obviously the radio station for me became a fixed thing. I I always worked into the radio, I always doing something in the radio station. So uh next summer I remember that um, you know, my my my friends in the neighborhood were like um everyone was making plans and like going to the beach, who to go with, who's coming, what would be the you know, the gangs that will go together and everything. And I haven't in a very weird way, at that very fresh age, I haven't felt like I'm losing anything. I haven't felt like I am not going to the beach with my gang. I was at the mixing board, I had Chris Rea playing on the beach, and I was there, and I think that my idea of being on the beach was better than the other. Now, some of you will say, you know, you should just be out there doing that and doing that. No, I begged differ for the simple reason that I chose every time and everything that I did in my life, I chose what it made me feel in a way complete, and not always. Fooling around with the boys, we're just like doing it, it was a choice, weird one, because I have the same kind of uh problem today, and um I was just uh talking with a very good friend of mine uh from the UK, and it was like, Are you going out with no? Are you just no? If I find a little free time in my daily routine, I love to spend that time among the people that I love the most, and I want to do things that are really, really uh refill me for the next day. I love spending time with my best friend, and yes, I'm very lucky because I got to marry my best friend, so my best friend is my partner, so spending time with my partner is like spending time with my best friend, and yes, I'm lucky from that point of view. I've I acknowledge that very well, but I don't feel like going into a bar and playing silly and stupid with some men of my age will make me feel better than just like staying in the garden and my wife asking me to cut the loan, and I she always tells me, like, please remember there is that you know the power cord, it's so long and it tangles around all the time, and she always tells me like them please be careful, please be but please be careful, please. And I always said, like, you don't know what you're saying. I'm always careful, I'm so careful. And the next thing I know, I've caught that little stupid little power cord in three different ways possible at the same action. And I love that. That is just a great, you know, um, it's a great moment when you acknowledge that you can you can you can be with a person that makes you feel good, and at the same time, if you make him or her feel good, it's it's a treasure nowadays. Because that time, as we said in a previous episode, this time is the only thing we can get back, and if this is a time that we have and we were given, we need to find a way to actually make it worth our while. I know you're gonna say, like, you know, like everybody knows how important time is. Of course, we do, everybody knows that. But how many of us understand that if that time that we have, which is limited, how important is that in that particular, very small amount of time that we have in our life? What do we do with it? Are we going to complain all the time? Are we just going to every single time I I I I hate this? I want to say love it, but I don't. I hate it when I go somewhere in the morning. I just get to the bar next to my to my business, I get a coffee. The first thing I hear is like, oh my god, again, I have to go to work, I have to put up with my boss, I have to do that, I have to sell, I have to go there, I have to buy my tickets, I have to go to vacation, I have to go to buy shoes for my little kids. Like, everyone is complaining about something. And that's not something I like. You know, complaining, it's something that always made me close my circle more and more. And there is another thing that makes me close my circle every day, it's the conspiracy theories that everyone has. Just the other day I was uh watching um a podcast uh and uh someone was actually worried, like this podcaster was worried about the fact that people really don't believe that humanity got to the moon. They actually deny a fact that happened and changed somehow the course of our lives. We started to deny science, we started to deny facts, and there is always a conspiracy theory somewhere that someone, someone is doing something to us so bad because it it's I I'm done with that. I can't. I can't spend my energy uh by thinking about that. And if they do what? If we got to the point when we actually know that they are actually doing that and there is nothing we can do, it's worse than before. It's better just absolutely to try to guide your life in a way and do something, leave something behind you because that's one of the biggest that's one of the biggest things that we can do with this little time we have to actually try to do to make something that will outlever us. It could be anything, it could be uh canvas, it could be a song, it could be a podcast, it could be a jacket, it could be make something and make something that someone else around anywhere in the world can actually have that thing, and whenever using that thing, he will quite say thank you to you for making it. How cool is that? I know we got a little too deep at this moment, and um, you know, he's talking about a radio station, I was talking about um I'm looking at my uh my computer trying to understand what I did. Like I nothing of the thing that I wrote about this episode I have followed anything. This is very, very, very I love these conversations because they get so random. Um you know the moment when um someone in my childhood decided to give that kid a chance, it was the moment when the today me started to to to shape. So I will always be grateful that I had chosen carefully by listening to what I really want because that's something that not everybody does. I think that we always go ahead and we try to please everyone around us. We try to do everything in order to get the likes of the people that they matter for us, we try to do right by our families, we try to do right by our teachers, we always try to do things most of the time for the others, in order to get liked and to get the good vibe around us. But not always we follow our hearts through what we want, through what we like, and what would be the best thing to do for us to keep going. Social media does that, you know. It's it's weird, you know, and just with this thing that we do at the moment, you know, with the podcast and everything, it just it's so sad when you're actually realizing that you are creating content and you're trying to put it up there. You're trying to again leave something behind you, and people prefer different things to that, and they do it because society tells them that that is the right thing to do. Um well, you know, the today's um episode and the way that I'm trying to remember the people that he left a mark in my life without yelling, without someone saying, like this is the important moment for you. I am doing this for you, and from now on you're gonna work in a radio station. That didn't happen for me. It was much quieter, it was something so soft and something almost almost hard to remember, and somehow I do remember. I was 15, I was a kid, and I was given a chance in order to uh continue, if you want to um my life in a different way that I used to do it at that moment. I was not the errands boy anymore, I was not just the kid. I did become the kid that was able to do things, and um I think that music today for me it's based on the same idea. I think that me running a business today it's based on the same it's the same kid that does it. I think that me being a partner for my wife, it's still that kid. And I really believe that the beauty and all this is whatever I will do, whatever I will start doing one day is something that I haven't done before. If I will start to redo things in the way that I was doing it when I was 20 or something, or I will start new projects or anything, it will always be that kid, it will always be that person right there that was just will have that nonchalance in to looking at the future and saying, like, that can't stop me. I mean, I have to find a way to do that, and um it was not always like that because life teaches you in a very cruel way that uh uh whatever you really dreamt about it, and whatever you imagine that it's going to happen at some point it's not going to, and uh but I was lucky, I was lucky because my best friend um it is the type of person that whenever I forget how easy, beautiful, and simple life is, she'll always find a way to remind me that. And is that important? No, I think that's the most important thing because we have our bad days and um we have our down moments, and uh sometimes life unexpectedly is just throws something at you that you're not really ready to have at that moment to deal with, but when you have someone next to you right there, that somehow finds a way to tell you and to get you back on the track by saying, like, listen, you've got this, there is a way that that means more than anything else in the world, not only at that moment, but in general. Um, and this is one one thing that I find fascinating about life. Life works because it's a continuum mix, a good life, I'm saying it's a continuum mix between reality and memory. Put all these two pieces together, and if there is a way that when reality and memory they're kind of like merging together, if that happens without you knowing that it's actually happening, that's when you know you've got a good life. It's not about anything else, it might just be possible thinking about it. It's not the cars, it's not the money, it's not the traveling, it's not how many books you're reading, it's not how many no. It's about you leaving that moment through your memory and just having the feeling that you've done right. You know, always you have to ask yourself and I do if I did good by the people if I was a good guy, and um it's very hard to answer that question. It's very hard. And most of the time when I ask myself that question, I um I do it with a loud voice, and uh the answer is not nice. And I I I I never got to the point when I said I am a good guy. I didn't really got to that point because I I don't know, it's just it's weird because you see, this is a moment that I thought that I'm not gonna talk about it, but just somehow it came out. You feel you are a good person, but you know that not everything that you've done it was the right thing to do. And somehow you will try to I don't know if it's about finding excuses for whatever you've done or everything. And it's just it's so sad that sometimes you have to look back and say probably I will I would have done that differently. I think that is one of the moments when I don't really like myself. All this lads me to you know the that idea that I always had and I'm guiding my life through it basically day by day. It's always giving somebody um a chance to feel like what they do, it's important. I think that's so um free of charge, making someone feel good about themselves. Maybe there is someone in your life right now, this very moment, that needs you to say it. You can say it. Tell that person I believe you, I trust you. You've got this. Give them the meaning to go over the next step. You don't need to change someone's life forever. You don't need to think about every day that what you're doing is gonna be that very important thing that we're gonna change someone's existence forever. Don't bel don't don't think about this thing in that way. Just be a better person by trying to find a good thing to do or to say every day. It's not easy. I don't think it's easier for any of us because we've got problems, we carry a lot of those problems over our shoulders. It kind of becomes a burden sometimes, it's so much, and we never know what the person next to us is actually carrying because everyone is carrying something. So when you get to the point that you get into an argument with somebody, you're not just having an argument with that person, you're having an argument with that person's weight from its shoulders. So being a better person means to give that um person in the front of you a good reason to keep going because we all need that. It's as simple as it is. We we just need the reason to be able to wake up tomorrow morning happy and not unhappy. We need to find ourselves useful, we need to know that somebody out there needs us in a way or another. Um it could be business, it could be pleasure, it could be anything. Life in general, it's about finding a purpose, and the purpose most of the time it's within ourselves, and it's very hard to bring it out. I know, I know. It's not just something that you can just say, then it comes out of something. It's not that you have you bring up a feeling, you bring up a lesson, you talk about a song, you talk about an orange, you talk about something, and somehow everything sounds better. No, it is not that simple. You acknowledge your flows, you know how good you are, and you know how much good you've done around you, you put that in balance with who you are today, the reality that you're going through at the moment, and then you let your memories flow all of that reality, and that at the end of the day, it's gonna give you a sum of whoever you are and what you've done, then it's gonna make you a good person or not, and those are the things we keep, and I really want me as much as I will like you to do the same thing, keep these things, and those things that you're keeping, all of these versions of you, all of these memories, keep them because they are telling your story, they are telling you about your story, but they are telling the others what your story is, and this is what this podcast is all about. Was pretty unbelievable being here with you today, and thank you for letting me again being part of your routine. Enjoy everything that you have to do today, get ready for tomorrow, and don't forget, take care of the things you keep because they are telling your stories. Cheers.