C&C Unscripted

5 Things Actually Worth the Money | C&C #03

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Welcome back to C&C Unscripted!

In Episode 3, we’re talking about 5 things we think are actually worth the money—the stuff you spend a little more on and don’t regret.

Of course, it wouldn’t be C&C Unscripted without getting sidetracked. We get into some hunting stories, plenty of laughs, and a few conversations that definitely weren’t on the original agenda.

Thanks for watching and hanging out with us. If you enjoy the episode, like, subscribe, and let us know what you think is actually worth spending money on.

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SPEAKER_00

What are five things that you think are worth the money?

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I totally thought you guys had your shit together this entire time. I s I really do like that we still got to have that.

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Yeah, it all fits.

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I think it looks good.

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Yeah. It'll look better when we fix that.

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You know, on the screen, it doesn't look that bad.

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Oh, good.

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It looks like a shadow.

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Okay.

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But if anybody notices this in their watching the video version of the podcast, I drilled the wrong holes to hang the fucking sign. So that's so sweet. Anyway, it turned out really good.

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Yeah, it did.

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That was a pain.

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Never doing that again.

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I will never.

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Never.

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But yeah. It did turn out great. It does.

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Shout out to your Aunt Aaron.

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Yep.

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Pulling that off.

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That's exactly what I sent her too.

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Yeah. That's what I envisioned too. Like on the what is that stuff called?

SPEAKER_03

It's plexiglass. Plexiglass. I thought I ordered smoky glass.

SPEAKER_00

You could smoke you could.

SPEAKER_03

Well, like, you know the rough texture of glass?

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You can do that on the back of this one. To make it have a background.

SPEAKER_03

On the first layer?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, on the first layer.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00

On the back of the So the back one that you know what I'm saying? Like on this back piece?

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Okay.

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You would just fog the glass and then put it back together and it would have that like foggy effect.

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Turned out good.

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It did.

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I like it. I've had a good lazy couple days.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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It's actually been really nice.

SPEAKER_00

It's the first weekend in a long time.

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That we haven't done anything.

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That I have not had plans over the weekend. It's been a super busy summer.

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Well we got a bit we gotta we got plans next weekend, so prepare yourself.

SPEAKER_00

That's next weekend?

SPEAKER_03

It's our anniversary.

SPEAKER_00

I knew that.

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I know you did that.

SPEAKER_00

I did actually know that.

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You did.

SPEAKER_00

I just didn't realize it was that quick. It's next week. I guess it's literally the first weekend of August already.

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Saturday. Saturday night.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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We're going out of town.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm excited. I don't have any plans, which is great, but it's just me and you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Maybe we'll even shoot a podcast.

SPEAKER_00

We could.

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Bring our stuff. Airbnb podcast.

SPEAKER_00

That would be cool. That would be fun.

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That would be fun. It wouldn't take much to load everything up.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

What are we gonna do that day before we actually go?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. We haven't really talked about it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

I guess when you we're creeping up on almost ten years together. Six years married this year. We got married in 2020.

SPEAKER_03

Like seven and a half, dude.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we started dating November 2018. November of 2018. So almost eight years.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You were hunting deer the first year.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I was out on the year.

SPEAKER_03

Or like the first week we were talking, you were hunting.

SPEAKER_00

I was, yeah, me and my dad.

SPEAKER_03

You you didn't kill anything.

SPEAKER_00

I did not. No. That was that that was the year that we stocked that big old frigate, those two bucks.

SPEAKER_03

The one you told me.

SPEAKER_00

We bedded them down and we stocked them for like 1,500 yards.

SPEAKER_03

Let's get one this year.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That was cool. That was a cool hunt. Even though I missed, but to my defense, my dad had me shooting that big red gun. I don't even know what caliber it is.

SPEAKER_03

It's a 22,250.

SPEAKER_00

It is so freaking heavy.

SPEAKER_03

The gun itself is heavy. The caliber's great.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the caliber is great. The gun itself, how how much does that weigh?

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Uh I think he told me it was close to 12 pounds.

SPEAKER_00

It's heavy. And we were trying to shoot it. I was trying to like like we got up on them and they stood up, and my dad was like, fucking shoot it.

SPEAKER_03

It's huge.

SPEAKER_00

So I just lifted that gun up and I was like, That's I missed.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think there's gonna be any free hand shooting with that gun.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

But with that being said, if we can make time tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, to go.

SPEAKER_03

I would really like you to shoot the gun that you're gonna shoot for the hunt.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's open sights. It's definitely something Peepsight. Peepsight. Which is awesome. Yes.

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Open sights.

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Open sights.

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Peepsight is just easy money.

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Yeah.

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And no recoil on this gun. Suppressed.

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Even better. This is like no earplugs, just This is the first tag I've had since that year, 2018.

SPEAKER_03

Which is ridiculous because that's like easy. Yeah. That's like eight years without a deer tag.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That was terrible. And that was your first deer tag?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

You had one before that.

SPEAKER_00

I had I drew out my first year after Hunter Safety. My yeah. So I drew out that year. And and then I didn't draw out. I went with my dad when he drew out a couple years later. And we got one down that year. Me and him.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't know that.

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A little forky.

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Oh, you got a little fork buttons.

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Like my dad had thrown his back out when we were camping down.

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So you're driving around.

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So we were he was like, I'm shooting the first one we come across.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So we laid deer down like 50 yards off the trail. We were literally like driving to go wal like hike. And we saw like a herd of deer. There was a little forky bucket.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's a good buck for your first one. Yeah. Maisie killed.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't shoot, my dad did.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah. But I remember when Maisie got her first deer tag. And I was like, I'm going. I want to go. And we were up at the Taylor camp, which is over on the boulder side. Anyway. And we jumped some bucks. And buck fever set in like you wouldn't believe it. And it's me and my dad. Yeah, me and my dad are behind her. We got everybody with us. And there's a little two-point running up on the hill. And I'm like, right there. Like, there he is. And she racked one in it as she was running to go lay down and shoot because she needed some rest. She needed to rest. She racked one in it and shot the rock right in front of us. And my dad was like, oh my god. And I'm like, put it, just calm down. So I got like right behind her, and it was everybody behind us. And I laid her down on this rock, and I was like, he's still standing there. Just put it behind his shoulder. She freaking smoked him. But it was World War III before that.

SPEAKER_00

It doesn't surprise me with your.

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There was rock fragments flying. It was amazing. It was a good time.

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Yeah.

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She called me today.

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Maisie?

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Yeah.

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She called you yesterday.

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She called me today.

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Again?

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Uh yeah, remember when she asked me where the skunk was buried?

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That was yesterday.

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That was this morning when you were making pancake.

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It was.

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Yeah.

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Apparently it's been a long day for me.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's been a day. It's been a good day, though.

SPEAKER_00

No, it was fine.

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We haven't done a lot. No. It was too hot to do anything outside.

SPEAKER_00

Me and my mom sat outside for how long and watched the kids play in the board.

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I couldn't do it. It's too hot.

SPEAKER_00

It was it's freezing in this house. We couldn't sit in here.

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It you know how hot it is outside?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm aware.

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Still, right now. It is freaking miserable.

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It's still 60-something degrees, I think.

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It's way hotter than 60-something degrees. It's not even it's 10 33. Anyway, Mace called me because Grandpa Sam has a skunk problem.

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Yes.

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They're getting in his chickens and stuff. So he tried to live trap 'em. And he live trapped a squirrel and left it in the cage because it died in there for skunk bait. But then he said asked Maze to call me to ask where all the bait was that I buried when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_00

I can't believe that he remembered that.

SPEAKER_03

Me either. He thought he buried a skunk. He did, but it was when I was 14, it had been like 10 or 15 years prior, and his dog was digging on this lid in the ground. And he was like, what the heck is that? So we dug it up, and it was a mayonnaise jar, like a gallon mayonnaise jar, a glass jar.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, a glass jar. I was gonna say a plastic jar.

SPEAKER_03

The lid had just barely rusted through, and the dog smelt it under the dirt and started digging a hole and then found it. So she was like scratching the lid. We dug it up, and he had been looking for it for years. He couldn't remember where he put it. And there was a black sludge in the bottom.

SPEAKER_00

That is foul.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it was foul. He dropped an entire skunk in there, and you know, 10 or 15 years go by, it just turns into this black tar. Oh, you could smell it from Heather and my dad's. We would go, we would take that and go trap coons, me and my buddies.

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Yeah.

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And you would like dip a stick in this stuff. And the boys will remember this. And you'd set it back there on your set, and you'd, you know, get your trap ready and put some wax paper on it and put some dirt on it. We caught coons every day off that stuff. So then we started making our own. And I buried like four jars with birds and squirrels and who knows what. So when he, if he gets a metal detector and tells and goes where I told him to, he'll find some new bait.

SPEAKER_00

That is disgusting.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, those were the days, man.

SPEAKER_00

That is bizarre behavior.

SPEAKER_03

That is, that is uh bizarre behavior. I feel like there's some old trapper in me. I don't know. We're well, it was it was awesome. We we were catching so many raccoons at one point that Wyatt Dutton was like, I want to go. And we're like, dude, this is you've never done anything like this. And we get up to this spot, and there was just sagebrush knocked down in like a five-foot circle, and in the side, hiding, was this raccoon, and I'm not kidding you, this thing was like 25-30 pounds. No, and it was hitting the end of the chain, and it was freaking and why it was like, You guys is crazy, and we shot him. Well, then that night we're like, oh dude, you gotta go call him in with a spotlight. It's like the funnest.

SPEAKER_00

Do you actually do that?

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. With Fox Pro.

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I'm not sure I would like that.

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It's pretty freaking scary because they don't stop, they just keep running that. So we got my dad's ranger, which is just a single seat, and it was me, Wyatt, and Kyle, and we set the Fox Pro out there, put it on raccoon fight, and in the dark, it is like frightening, and you're sitting in the pitch blackness, and when you start hearing something, you kick the spotlight on, and there's two of them just running right at us, and we had shotguns, and Wyatt jumped up on the seat like a little kid and crawled into the bed of the ranger and got on top of it.

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That would be me.

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Scared the shit out of him. He's like that.

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Would be me. Like, how far away can I get from you people?

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It was awesome.

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We I did not do that growing up. I shot chiselers growing up.

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We don't have those.

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No, it's a bummer because it's good time.

SPEAKER_03

It's I mean, it's like the worst thing ever. They're here, but they're fun to shoot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're a nuisance for sure.

SPEAKER_03

But it was fun, and if we didn't do that, then we hunted a lot of squirrels. Like Afton had a he had a Mazda car called the Silver Bullet, and it burnt oil like you wouldn't believe. Like when you started it, it just smoked the whole high school parking lot out. And we would go down past Turnabout and hunt squirrels after school, and we would cut their tails off and put them on the antenna to keep track of how many we had. And we it was gross, it was disgusting, but it was pretty sweet to look at, you know, for kids. And then we would pull into Jesse's driveway and his dogs would just go nuts because the antenna was covered in all these squirrel tails, so we decided to get rid of them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's disgusting.

SPEAKER_03

It was fun. Yeah, we should go shooting tomorrow. Got the itch.

SPEAKER_00

Bought you that brand new targeting targing.

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Target target that you got me for Christmas.

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That we just barely got for the first time.

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That I just opened and it's August. Well, yeah, we just we were shooting a lot there for a minute and then life got busy. Yeah, things got busy really fast, it seemed like. So we just haven't been shooting a lot. We need to get back out, get freshened up.

SPEAKER_00

You I was actually shocked that when we went to Eubelake, Mari had her I don't even know.

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Had her had her piece on her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, when you're traveling alone, especially when you're you women.

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She's like, did you bring one? I was like, oh, of course. Cody would be so disappointed in me right now.

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You would you know, it's better to have it and not need it and need it and not have it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

That's why I always push you to carry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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And you're probably trained up more than most.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Most women for well, I really even wouldn't say most women, but It really depends.

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Really depends. I don't know. It's good to stay fresh anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, uh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

I'm so used to carrying that it's it is like part of my everyday leave the house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I need to be better about it, but it's just like the last thing I think about some like when I leave for work. I think it's because I work so close to home. Because it it doesn't I'm only driving what 15 miles to work.

SPEAKER_03

Um You can't control who comes in the office either.

SPEAKER_00

No, we've had some we've had some situations in that office, which is concerning.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, and like when you go to town by yourself or you go to town and you have the kids with you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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I sure hope you just have that on you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I need to be better about it.

SPEAKER_03

You do.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's uncomfany.

SPEAKER_03

That's why you gotta get used to it. It's I it would be hard for a girl too. It's just it's your outfits. Yeah. I wear a shirt and jeans or like pants every day.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and my attire is definitely like very fitted everything. So to carry is uh is harder. Conceal carry is harder.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But at least having your bag.

SPEAKER_00

I just don't like it like loose in there, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Well, do you I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

It's weird.

SPEAKER_03

That seems like you have carry bags, though.

SPEAKER_00

I do. I owe.

SPEAKER_03

Excuses, man.

SPEAKER_00

We've we've and I've actually had a weird situation in Target that one time.

SPEAKER_03

The guy falling ya?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That was wild. I had never had anything like that happen to me before. It was bizarre.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it doesn't even surprise me. Well, I mean like that. It doesn't even surprise me this day and age.

SPEAKER_00

You were you were with me in Target, but you weren't. Yeah, you were in the store. You just weren't with me. We were divide and conquer.

SPEAKER_03

Well, get in, get out, yeah, go home. I don't want to walk around there just for shits and giggles.

SPEAKER_00

I do.

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I don't. If I'm shopping for something, I already have my mind made up on what I'm getting and I just have to find it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, that's why men and women are different.

SPEAKER_03

Well, true.

SPEAKER_00

I like to go in and browse.

SPEAKER_03

I can browse in owls at all their guns for a hot minute.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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But that's just me going, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I man, I could really use one of those or that actually kind of brings up the topic for me. I was gonna ask you, what are me and Mari did this, what are five things that you think are worth the money? So anything you have?

SPEAKER_03

My firearms.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, that's one.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So guns.

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Guns worth the money.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Um can be anything. Clothes, shoes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Uh this is definitely gonna be really outdoorsy for me.

SPEAKER_00

That's fine.

SPEAKER_03

But like any hunting, hiking, gear.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

You definitely get your money's worth. Like when you buy nice stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's gonna be like you can have it forever.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you can Yeah, it might wear out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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But it's worth the money.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

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Um that goes to footwear.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Like a good pair of hiking boots.

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Like my crispy boots.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Those are like $500 boots. And I've had them for three. No, I've had them way longer than that. I had them when I worked with KP. Yeah. Before I was splicing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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They were super good on the maintenance crew because I was walking a lot every day. They're not my favorite boots to splice in because they're like moving boots. They're not fun to stand in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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They're they're good to walk in. 100% worth the money. They are the like, they're probably some of the best boots I own.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So it's that three things. Yeah. I was what I do. Gear, guns, hiking boots. Hiking boots. Oh, what else is worth the money? Technology.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Because I have tried buying, and this is years ago. Like the first action camera I bought was like an Amazon special, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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You couldn't. It was terrible. Yeah, it was bad. So I have not skimped on really buying technology since then.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Like I buy DJI cameras or 360 cameras. They're freaking pricey, but they're so worth the money. Uh, I bought my first, like my first laptop that I wanted.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The MacBook. 100% worth the money. And everything just works with it. It's like the easiest thing to use.

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Simple.

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It's like using your phone.

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Yeah.

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So technology is definitely something that you just don't skimp on. Okay. Um, one more thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Tools. And I'm bad at this.

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Yeah. You are.

SPEAKER_03

Fuck. I'm so terrible at this. I buy cheap tools, and I know if I just bought the good ones, I wouldn't have to replace it. I need to be better. Like, I bought I use what? Like Ryobi forever.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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And I have like three Ryobi batteries that I can't even charge because they just quit working. And you have to spend like the batteries like the most.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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So I yeah. I'm gonna say tools, not even knowing from experience, other than I use name brand tools at work, and they work. And they've worked for years and they just continue to work. Like I have the same set of drills that I started with, and they're used when I got them. So those are five things that I would I think are worth the money. Yeah, absolutely. What about you? What are you five things? I feel like this is gonna be a lot of clothes and shit. Like a pile.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, let's see. Five things worth money. Perfume. Perfume's a big one for me. I'm like a I love me. I love me some stink pretty.

SPEAKER_02

Some stink pretty.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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It's a Grandpa Sam quote.

SPEAKER_00

And perfume. A good pair of boots. Like footwear. Well, yeah, like footwear for sure. And I have some like crappy shoes. Like cheap shoes for sure. But like my old gringos, my black old gringos. Worth every freaking penny.

SPEAKER_03

And those are like $500 boots. $500 boots. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They were pricey. But worth every penny. I would do it again. Yeah. I love them. So a good pair of like Western boots, because if you get a crappy pair of Western boots, your feet will hate you.

SPEAKER_03

I know this personally. Yeah. And I have been talking about from experience. And I bought their Ariot boots.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but Ariots, I have a pair of Ariots, and they hurt my feet so bad. I could not wear them. I used to wear rid of them.

SPEAKER_03

I used to wear a lot of uh Ariot square toe boots. So when I bought these, it was around that time, and they are still, and I've had them forever. Before we even started dating. Like way before. But they're like my nice black pair of boots.

SPEAKER_00

I had a pair of boots in high school. My dad bought me a pair of boots, riding boots. And I don't even know what brand they were. I think they're Justin's, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_03

Bent rail?

SPEAKER_00

My riding boots?

SPEAKER_03

Justin Bent rails.

SPEAKER_00

Sure. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I think they are.

SPEAKER_00

They I wanted them. This is such a girl thing. I wanted them because they had pink tops on them. And so my dad bought them for me for my birthday. And I think I was maybe 14, 15 years old. Like I was pretty young. Still have them. And they have been resold multiple times. And that's a great thing about Western boots or any kind of leather shoe that you can resold them.

SPEAKER_03

If you take care of the leather, then they're good. Yeah. My I have a pair of square toe bent rails. And my mom got them for me when I was a sophomore.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think I was probably a sophomore.

SPEAKER_03

I wore them to the rodeo two or three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. You still have see I still have mine too.

SPEAKER_03

They have also been resold.

SPEAKER_00

I think mine have been resold twice.

SPEAKER_03

Who took those for me? Colby Clark.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I rem I remember that.

SPEAKER_03

She was like, I'm taking a bunch of Kell's boots to Richfield and my boots to get resold.

SPEAKER_00

They never fit quite the same the first couple times you wear them. You're like, this feels weird.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But they get worn in, they're fine.

SPEAKER_03

Leather bottom boots. Yeah. That's a woman.

SPEAKER_00

Leather bottom boots. They gotta be leather bottom boots.

SPEAKER_03

They uh I think if you buy bent rails, I only have had one pair, but they're just good.

SPEAKER_00

They're just worth it. They're worth the money. Yeah. So boots, western boots, good pair of western boots. Um makeup, honestly. Makeup worth the money, absolutely. Because I'm a makeup girly. I wear a lot of makeup. Okay. That's three.

SPEAKER_03

That was three. I think. What did you have? You had perfume.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. Boots. Makeup. A good spray tan.

SPEAKER_03

Worth the money. You're white.

SPEAKER_00

I am pasty. I don't hold the tan to save my life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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So a good spray tan. And my last one, I'd probably say a good pair of jeans. Like, spend the money on a good pair of jeans. I finally found the brand that fits me the best. And they're long enough because I got mile-long legs.

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Kimes.

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I freaking love my worth every penny. They're pricey. They're like $150 a pair.

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It's freaking nuts.

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It's insane how expensive jeans are. But I would spend that a hundred times over because I'm going to be able to do that.

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It sounds crazy, but it's no different than like I do think camo is overpriced. But I bought like ridiculous. But I bought like nice that goes with my gear list. Like I bought nice hunting stuff last year. And holy shit, is it nice?

SPEAKER_00

It's so funny because like men and women are actually very similar in the fact that all your camo has to match. You have to have the attire. You have to look good. You're no different than a woman. Like it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, what's funny is I was out there wearing on the cow hunt. I had uh I had my element pants. I'm wearing them right now. These are what I had on. I love these things. I only have one pair. And then my QU, like under.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That you bought.

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It's like layers, like you layer. So you have like your thin layer, base layer, sorry. Your like base layer light sweatshirt. I don't know what the hell it is. And then like a vest and then a coat. And it works so well. When it's cold out, it is like this is like the best layering system ever.

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Yeah.

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And then I'm out there wearing a hat from 1996. It was Grandpa Jack's. Because I'm like, I'm killing.

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Cold balance.

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I'm killing something wearing this freaking old trucker hat. Yeah. I did too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we did. That's the thing about hunting though, like up on the mountain, is you have to layer. It is so cold up there in the mornings, it's insanity.

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Freezing.

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It is freezing. This last year on the spike hunt, I about died. I was not prepared to be that cold.

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I am. I I feel like I need to order more stovepipe.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like that was a few more. For the stove.

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Like the stove when it works, it works.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But I also came across a reel that I really need to pay that I paid attention to and I saved it. Your stovepipe above your canvas tent is supposed to be 15 inches above the peak. Oh, we are like three feet below.

SPEAKER_00

No wonder we get smoked out every year. It's not drafting. No, it's not drafting. It's not drafting at all. I remember on the spike cut, I was in the canvas tent, the wall tent, at 2 a.m. trying to stoke the fire as much as I possibly could to try my best to get. I was so cold. It was miserable.

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It was very cold.

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It was freezing.

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Me and Travy were up there by ourselves after everybody left and went back to work because we took like most of the hunt off.

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Yeah.

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And we saw a lot of elk. But we froze our asses.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it was so cold. It was so cold.

SPEAKER_03

It was very cold. And it snowed again.

SPEAKER_00

Like Yeah, it smelled that first morning. Or was that the first morning? That's probably why it was so warm. Because I was fine the first night.

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The first time was fine.

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Second night.

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Oh, I but when we left, like the day before we left, I'm pr it snowed and was kind of raining, and it was like frozen to the tent.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. It was so cold.

SPEAKER_03

Well, remember I got back home and I was like, I have to set this tent up and let it dry. Because it was just soaking wet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was that was a that was a miserable trip. But that's the thing, you'll always remember it. It's like the year I was there's been several years now, actually. That I will always remember.

SPEAKER_03

Well, when you're suffering, do you you're not gonna remember when everything went really smooth.

SPEAKER_00

What was that reel that I sent you? It was like level two fun or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

So there's type one and type two fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Type one fun, and I've watched I've it's that video you sent me.

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Yeah.

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The type one fun is you get on a roller coaster, it's super fun, and then you just go on about your day. You know, oh yeah, that was a good time, whatever. And then type two fun is when you are in the shit. You are suffering, you're probably wet, you're cold, you could be, it could be really hot out, but you're doing something that is fun.

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It's fun. The activity is fun and it's but you're kind of miserable. Oh, you're miserable.

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And guess what? They are the best stories.

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Best ones.

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And you're always gonna remember that.

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The the first one.

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Type 2 fun. I that is me. Yeah, I'm I want to suffer a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Type 2 fun is memorable. I the first elk hunt that I ever had ever been on was the year I was sick. I had a cold. You did, and I was miserable, and that was the year that we helped Dan pack out his elk.

SPEAKER_03

Squiggly Dan.

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Yeah.

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And then he freaking shot it down in the shit.

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And it was dark. It was pitch black. And we had came across what when we hiked up to him, we had seen or no, we coming back out. So we hiked in, and then on the way out, it was pitch black. And you were like looking down at the trail. I remember this plain as day, and he's like, pretty sure that's uh a bear track's over the top of our tracks coming in. I was like, What? Yep, I was panicked. I was panicked.

SPEAKER_03

Valdez had a bear track that year. That year. Yeah, he had a so we actually went and sat on the gut pile from the elk that Dan killed.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And there were bear tracks everywhere. Everywhere. And we didn't see a single bear.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

That sucks. We went clear back down in there in that hole, and it is a hole.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it is a hole. We had a.

SPEAKER_03

Can you stand at the rim of that and you're looking down in it?

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You're like a giant pit in the ground.

SPEAKER_03

It is. And it you can just hear like elk bugling.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. It's it was it's unreal. That was the first year I'd ever been elk hunting. I had never I had never hunted elk before, so that was fun.

SPEAKER_03

It was opening morning, I remember, and that was the first time he came with us.

SPEAKER_00

And that was we weren't married yet, were we?

SPEAKER_03

Uh nope, and Kell and Colby were still dating.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And Dan It was warm that year.

SPEAKER_00

I remember it being really warm.

SPEAKER_03

Squiggly Dan was there, but he went somewhere else. We split up that first morning. He rolled into camp really late that night, and we got tuned in. But we woke up, four-wheelered into a spot, froze our asses off.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it was so cold. And that road was horrible. I remember sitting on the four-wheeler in in your coveralls and trying not to spill my coffee the entire ride.

SPEAKER_03

It was rough.

SPEAKER_00

And it was blueberry coffee. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_03

I remember buying that. Why? I don't know why I bought that.

SPEAKER_00

It was good. It tastes like a blueberry muffin.

SPEAKER_03

I liked it. It was like, yeah, it tastes like blueberry muffin.

SPEAKER_00

It was good.

SPEAKER_03

But I remember hearing elk.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And we started cow calling, and we were in the aspens, and we're like, I was like, all right, we're like gonna walk right in on them. And you're like, okay, you know, whatever. And we go walking down the trail, and this bugle rips out, and it was like right there.

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Close to us.

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And we just peek through the trees into the flat, and there's like 60 head of elk moving.

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Running. They were running. Yep.

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And the bull was in the back. And then, oh man, I remember this. There was two spike in the very back. And they took off running. And they were they were on a dead run.

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They were cooking.

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And I yell, there's spike. And I rack one in and I'm trying to get ready. And Kel just starts flinging the lead.

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I was like, talk about World War II.

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Well, it freaking went down. And we were we were just unloading.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then Kel turns around and he's like, I couldn't really see him. And I'm like, what?

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What?

SPEAKER_03

You were shooting about. He's like, well, I could, I they were kind of back there and I could see him. I'm like, no, I was definitely shooting at the elk. Like, he's such a character.

SPEAKER_00

The only one that year that I didn't have a tag. I was just I was a bystander.

SPEAKER_03

We went we went over to that rim. And so Dan had two tags that year. He had drawn his cow tag and he'd bought a spike tag. So because that's exactly what I did last year. I had two tags. And he we heard his gunshot. You remember hearing the gunshot? And I was like, oh shit, something's happening. Well, Dan smoked a cow opening morning.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Dropped it in a flat. Open sight 3030 or something. Like he was old school in it. Smoked him a cow. And we went and cut that up and quartered it. And then the next day is when he got his spike. Is when he killed a spike.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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And we had actually got back to camp and were working on getting dinner done. We were doing Dutch oven taters and something, I can't remember. And he rolls up on his four-wheeler and it's pitch black. And I remember him walking over, and he's just like, Yeah, what do you guys cook? And he had his pack on. And I finally noticed that there was a freaking spike head on the back of his pack. Yeah. He packed like a front shoulder and the head out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, oh my hell, we've got blood at camp again. And that's the next day when we went and hiked down in there, and you were sick as a dog.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I was sick as a dog that year. Then then the next year I went, I was pregnant with Clark. And I was no, I was I was pregnant with Tucker.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't go until you went a couple years without going.

SPEAKER_00

I went a couple years without going. And then then the year I was pregnant with Tucker. I was freshly pregnant with Tucker. And I was ill. I was ill.

SPEAKER_03

We camped on the edge.

SPEAKER_00

That was a horrible camp, too. I was camped there again. It was so windy.

SPEAKER_03

And I think the last time we camped there, we were like it was Valdez's 21st birthday when we camped there, and it was so that it would have been August. Now, during the elk hunt, that is the windiest knoll.

SPEAKER_00

It is it was so windy.

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Ever. That's on White's Flat, right on right on the turn, and it is so windy right there. We never again.

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No. I just remember we got I had hiked all morning long and we got back to camp and had lunch. And I think I laid down and had a nap because I was like, I am unwell.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, you had a nap, and I think Dayson showed up.

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Yeah.

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And we're like, hey, let's go. We wanted to go back out for the evening.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And you were like, I'm like I'm going home. Yeah, I'm gonna go home. And I was like, oh, like you want to take off.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, I left.

SPEAKER_03

I am sick. And I was like, Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I'll try to get a spike down.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was I was super sick with Tucker.

SPEAKER_03

So I was Man, what good times. Yeah. That's why I'm so excited for this deer hunt.

SPEAKER_00

It's uh just the fact that almost our entire friend group has a tag this year. There's five of us. Five of us, yeah. That is awesome.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm excited. That'll be fun. I'm super excited about it. Yeah, that's why I really want to get you dialed in with that again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

If I had this mess around money, I'd get another lever action. But it's fine.

SPEAKER_00

It is what it is.

SPEAKER_03

We'll get you one and then I'll then I'll hunt.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what? I bet honestly, I bet my dad has one.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we're gonna have two. But I'm gonna give you the the suppressed gun. You can pack that, and if we can get you a buck down, then I'll just then I'll use it. But I can carry my own library action. Since we have to have iron sights on this hunt. Which is wild.

SPEAKER_00

It is wild, actually. That'll be fun. That'll be a good experience.

SPEAKER_03

I'm excited. I'm excited about it.

SPEAKER_00

It's always a good time to do that.

SPEAKER_03

I got a spike tag too. Which is not too long after the deer hunt's over. But I'll just weekend hunt or something. Burn over there.

SPEAKER_00

We've used we have used all but like a couple packages of our elk meat.

SPEAKER_03

There is hardly any left.

SPEAKER_00

There's like nothing left. We've ate so much of it.

SPEAKER_03

I have give I've gave away some elk meat.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I gave some to the boys for helping me pack it out. I gave like a couple packages of sausage to your dad, nothing crazy. I've made jerky multiple times.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We have used an entire cow in almost less than a year.

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It's good.

SPEAKER_03

And it filled up our entire deep freezer and it's almost gone.

SPEAKER_00

It was so good.

SPEAKER_03

There is nothing better.

SPEAKER_00

It's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_03

Like I like a good beefsteak, but there's something about elk meat. It is just delicious.

SPEAKER_00

I would prefer, like, if you gave me the option between venison and elk, I would 100% choose elk meat. Like I love venison, but elk meat, there's just something about it. It's so good.

SPEAKER_03

I'll tell you what, probably a day I'm looking forward to is when the kids are old enough to keep up and they can go hunting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I want to do that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, Clark keeps telling us that she wants to go fox hunting.

SPEAKER_03

So it's so random.

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Every day.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, have you been watching Lady in the Tramp?

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Or I she was like, Dad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Dad.

SPEAKER_00

I was not impressed with that.

SPEAKER_03

That's an actual movie, first off, and it's awesome. But it's so random. I want to go I want to go fox hunting.

SPEAKER_00

I know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, maybe we should go spotlighting one of these nights and we'll go fox hunting.

SPEAKER_00

She's all about it.

SPEAKER_03

It's a perfect time right now. All these cornfields. Yeah, she I bet there's foxes running rampant right now.

SPEAKER_00

She loved when we were tr when you were trapping. Oh. She ate that up. It's she loved it.

SPEAKER_03

We should do that again this winter.

SPEAKER_00

She loved it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I've got my trap number and everything. I would love to do it again. We got really busy this winter for or this last winter.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I just skipped out. I just didn't do it. We weren't around a lot. So I just you have to you have to be there to check your traps.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's every 48. Like you gotta be out there every 48 hours. And I didn't do I didn't trap anything the first year.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

We set a lot of traps. We did. We said a lot. I would love to do it again. It's fun. Yeah. I have all the stuff to do it. We just gotta figure it out. It gets us out of the house in some of the most depressing times of this wintertime.

SPEAKER_00

Winter is so depressing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I hate wintertime. Honestly, I'm just like a I'm a summer girl. I just I don't like any other season but summer.

SPEAKER_03

I just wish it'd cool off a little bit, which I think next week it's actually supposed to cool off a little. But then I'll be down in Virginia.

SPEAKER_00

When we took the kids, when I took the kids to the water park, oh my gosh, it was so hot. Like when we got there, it was miserably hot.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It was so hot. It's August. And the water, like even the water in the pool was warm. I was like, this is not refreshing whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03

Not even fun.

SPEAKER_00

It was fun. Like we had a good time, but it was just hot. It's really hot.

SPEAKER_03

To me, it's hard to enjoy it when it you're just like miserably hot like that.

SPEAKER_00

And like taking kids in the heat in your car is horrible. It is so hard. When I went, I ran into town to run errands Thursday. Thursday, last Thursday. Or whatever. It was I was down there almost all day long. And getting those kids in and out of the car 10 million times in the heat when it's like 102 degrees and your car can't keep up with the temperature, it's hot, your Clark's in the backseat. Mom, I'm sweating. Like I I have the air on full blasting. Full blast. It is what it is. I can't, I can't fix it.

SPEAKER_03

Full blast, and the the AC can't even keep up.

SPEAKER_00

Keep up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and they say it's gonna cool down next week. That'll be like 96.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think the temperatures here are like in the eight like 86, 85.

SPEAKER_03

C to me is still hot.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's like perfect. 88 is like prime weather for me.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, weather.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. I'm just I'm cold. I'm a cold-blooded person. I'm just freezing constantly.

SPEAKER_03

You're like a lizard.

SPEAKER_00

I know. I've I just want to lay in the sun.

SPEAKER_03

And then but you fry.

SPEAKER_00

I fry. I f I'm peeling currently because I sat in the sun for seven hours.

SPEAKER_03

And that was two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00

That was two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_03

Still peeling.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's so bad.

SPEAKER_03

I still burn, but not like you.

SPEAKER_00

You tan, which is you do burn, but like it turns to tan. Tucker's the same way. Tucker has your skin for sure. Like he has a little tan line on his neck. My mom even said today, she's like, I can't believe how tan he is. Like, I know. I he did not get my skin.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

Clark is a hundred percent her mother.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. She has the freckles.

SPEAKER_00

She has the red hair, the pasty white skin, the freckles.

SPEAKER_03

Pasty white too.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, she like she's iridescent. Like she see-through. She's so white.

SPEAKER_03

What is that? She's translucent.

SPEAKER_00

Translucent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's exactly what she is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Us redheads. She's. It's crazy. Like I act like I read a lot of stuff about redheads. And we we're quite the breed of person. Red hair and blue eyes is the most rare combination. Which me and Clark both have red hair and blue eyes. And we absorb sunlight, like vitamin D. Like we absorb more than the average person. And what else? Our hair doesn't go gray.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't go gray.

SPEAKER_00

Like we gray, but it's like we don't necessarily go gray.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't know that. Wild.

SPEAKER_00

It's wild. So like redheads great, they eventually do gray. Like I I've seen like when like older women, like when I was in hair school, this little this cute little lady used to come and get her hair done every week. And she always talked to me because I have red hair. And she was like, You'll never believe that I had your color of hair when I was young. And her hair was like gray hair dreams. Like I hope that I gray like that. She it was just like pure white. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I think I'm gonna have white hair. I have a white spot on my head already.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in your beard too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I do have some white hairs in my beard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Or when my beard grows out, but like my mustache.

SPEAKER_00

But even your grandpa, who was redhead and had red facial hair, he didn't his headhair was not grey. It was red.

SPEAKER_03

His facial hair was definitely gray.

SPEAKER_00

Because yeah, his facial hair definitely was had a lot of grey in it. Like his headhair was still just as red as ever. Which was crazy. Because how old was he when he died? Um he had to have been what in like his 70s?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but that was that was rough time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was rough. Let's not talk about that.

SPEAKER_03

You brought that up. Sorry. I was just using him as an example. No, it's fine. I I mentioned him earlier too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Red hair. Red hair is crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Head's definitely graying now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he's older too, though.

SPEAKER_03

He has a full head. He's 80.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Your dad is quite gray.

SPEAKER_03

He is. Well, Eric is really gray too.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I haven't really seen Eric much.

SPEAKER_03

He's pretty, he's pretty gray. Definitely in his beard, too. It's pretty gray.

SPEAKER_00

My dad's facial hair has gone quite gray. And he has to be.

SPEAKER_03

It's just, I think it's just I mean it's gonna happen no matter what.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah. My my dad has red facial hair like you do, though.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And brown head hair. Did you know that's a that is a um gene something? Something.

SPEAKER_03

A gene?

SPEAKER_00

Well, like the combination, like when you have brown hair and red facial hair, it's a gene mutation.

SPEAKER_03

I had no idea. Yeah. I could be wrong. I always thought that was a little weird that my facial hair different colors is different than my headhair.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'll be curious to see how Tucker what he does, because his headhair is quite red. It yeah, it's pretty it's brown, but like it's quite red.

SPEAKER_03

It yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00

It's like a dark auburn color. It's just kind of crazy how genius is.

SPEAKER_03

He like shines in the sun.

SPEAKER_00

It's very red in the sunshine. Yeah. People if people see him, they're like, oh my gosh, you have two little redheads. I'm like, yeah. I really wouldn't classify Tucker as a redhead, but it's quite red in the sunshine.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. If he's out in the sun, you definitely are like, oh, there's some red in there.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. And then you see Clark and you're like, ooh, that is fiery red hair. And her attitude matches.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

I love her.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it keeps us on our toes, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

She's very sassy.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

She doesn't really like me.

SPEAKER_00

She's she's a mama's girl. Both our kids are mama's mama kids.

SPEAKER_03

They are. Tucker likes me more.

SPEAKER_00

He does definitely gravitate to me, but he will go to you. Yeah. And is fine. Clark.

SPEAKER_03

If you're around, Clark is like, nope, I don't want you.

SPEAKER_00

Nothing to do with you.

SPEAKER_03

If if it is just us, if it's just me and the kids, like when you were gone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They were like a dream. It was insane. I was like, this is the best ever.

SPEAKER_00

Isn't it crazy?

SPEAKER_03

Bed early. Yeah. Hey, I'm gonna cook breakfast. We're having this. Okay. We're gonna have lunch, we're having this. It was like there was no, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_00

There is nothing that makes me more mad when we pick our kids up from someone, or like I come home from being gone, and you're like, the kids were so great. No attitude, and I come home and it just turns into pure chaos.

SPEAKER_03

I saw a thing that was kind of explaining that. Like if your kids are really good for other people.

SPEAKER_00

Which is great.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no, that's great. I I love that. But like even picking them up from like their grandparents, and they're like, they were awesome. They were great the entire time. I've heard that that's like a if they're good for someone else and they're not always the best to you, you're doing a good job.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, though they're gonna I don't know if that's true.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if that's true, but I don't know what I'm doing. We are just running through this thing trying to raise kids.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Which is what else are you supposed to do?

SPEAKER_00

You just have to do your best. And I have to remind myself of that of my own parents too. It's like they just did their best at the time, like, and we're doing our best at the time.

SPEAKER_03

I thought my parents, like I look back to when my parents were our age or even younger and had kids. And I look back and I'm like, man, I totally thought you guys had your shit together this entire time. And they're like talking to my mom about it. She was like, Oh no, we were struggling. And I was like, I wouldn't I couldn't have told you that you were. I thought we were having the best child's great time. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Riding a bike, I was eating, like it was fun.

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You were living your best life.

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Yeah, I thought they just had it together, and little did I know, they were just like anyone.

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Every other person.

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They were just figuring out, figuring it out as they went, and it was awesome.

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I think that kind of goes to show how good of an act you can put on even when you're struggling.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, an act? Yeah. Yeah. You put that mask on and Well, it's you know, it's kind of it's a little bit stupid on how when someone asks how you're doing, I think it's stupid how easy it's is to say, like, oh yeah, I'm fine. Everything's good. Oh, how are you? Oh, I'm great. When really you're like, nah, I'm not fine at all. But we've normalized just, oh, I'm good, how are you? Because guess what? Nobody wants to hear your shit. And I don't want to make it a burden on anybody, so I don't talk about it. So, oh I'm fine, everything's good. I'm doing great.

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Yeah.

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I could I could be having the worst day of my life, and if I run into somebody and they're like, oh, how are you? How are things going? Good. Everything's good on my end. It it could be the worst day of my life.

SPEAKER_00

Isn't that such like toxic behavior?

SPEAKER_03

It's terrible. Why do we why why do we do that? Why does that have to be a thing? If someone came up to me in the grocery store and they're like, Oh, hey, it's good to see you, how are you doing? And I was like, you know, I'm doing pretty shitty today. Then they would be they wouldn't even know what to do.

SPEAKER_00

No, it would be such a step back. Like it would be like such a I don't know what to do with my hand situation. It would be panic. Like, what do I even say?

SPEAKER_03

So we've normalized, I think, as a just a society that, oh, we're fine, everything's good.

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Everything's fine.

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Nobody talks about it.

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No.

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If we talk about troubles, it's probably me and you, or you, you know, me and you talking. Me and the boys at work, we talk about our troubles. Yeah, but those are. You and your sister talk about your troubles, like, yeah, that's normal, but just running into so-and-so, it's like, oh yeah, I'm doing great, everything's fine. Nah.

SPEAKER_00

That's such surface stuff. Yeah.

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Which I'm not saying I'm just gonna start burdening people with.

SPEAKER_00

No. Well, I you know, I don't want to spell my I don't want to have word vomit to just any random person. Like, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_03

But we have, I feel like everyone's just normalized the we're fine, I'm fine.

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Oh yeah. Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Nobody has the nobody has those talks.

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I put on such a good face, like at work and stuff like that. I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm great, everything's great.

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Everything's good.

SPEAKER_00

I'm trying to make light of you know the situation that I'm in, but I get home and I'm just like, I'm so mentally exhausted, I can hardly even get through the day. It's like I was talking to my mom today and about, you know, like there's just like I feel like I'm running thin in all aspects of life, and she's like, honestly, she's like, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you are raising two kids by yourself during the week and then working and working a full-time job. She's like, when I was raising you kids, she's like, I didn't work until you were all in school full-time. And I think I I think I was in the third grade when my mom went back to work. And she's like, even even then it was hard, but you were at school all day, so it made it a little easier. But she's like, I couldn't have done it. I couldn't have done it.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I you don't really have an option though.

SPEAKER_00

I don't have another option that that the life I live currently is keeping us afloat. Like we talk about it all the time when we see people that we know, and we're and like the wife stays home with the kids and the husband's working, and you're like, how are you doing that?

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It's not even it's not even everyone.

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Not everybody, but there's no.

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Like, because I know some people's situation, and I'm like, well, that's how they're making it. It's the ones that just built a house and the wife stays home and they've got three or four kids, and uh the dad works a regular job and like a nine to five job, and I'm like, did they win the lottery or something?

SPEAKER_00

How does that even work?

SPEAKER_03

I feel like there's a lot of that around here.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, in our area, and I'm I I just have all these questions.

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I'm like, how are you possibly staying afloat?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Like it's everywhere here. But like, yeah, stay-at-home mom, and they've got a couple kids, and they drive nice vehicles, and I'm like those are the ones that get me. I'm like, how are you?

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, that's a nice car.

SPEAKER_00

How are you doing it?

SPEAKER_03

That's a nice mom car. What does your husband do for work?

SPEAKER_00

Seriously, like our cars, all of our cars are paid off. We don't have car payments. No, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_03

It's nice though. It's so nice. Yeah. And the only We also we have like a really nice truck.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we too.

SPEAKER_03

And then we have two 200,000 plus mile Toyotas.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I love my FJ. Like my dream car.

SPEAKER_03

Your FJ's freaking sweet.

SPEAKER_00

It's so badass. I love it.

SPEAKER_03

I like my my Tacoma.

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I love the Tacoma. Like it's so smooth. It's our mountain rig, man.

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It's a trooper. I would get in that Tacoma right now and drive to Canada.

SPEAKER_00

It's super smooth.

SPEAKER_03

It would be just a breeze.

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It's comfortable, it's smooth, it's great.

SPEAKER_03

A little bit of maintenance. Yeah. A little bit of there's little twerks here and there that or twerks, what's tweet?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

There's little things here and there that need to be fixed sometimes, but that's any kind of vehicle. Well, you've got 225,000 on your Toyota?

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Yeah.

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I'm at 249.

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Yeah.

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Still going.

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It's going strong.

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Still starts up every day. Every day.

SPEAKER_00

I drive it every day. Yeah. And it like, it was so funny when we went to Yuba. I was obviously in the FJ, and Mari was in her Honda, her car, and she was like, because we had to drive down to the water.

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Yeah.

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And well, we our original plan was just to like, because I took the wagon and she's like, we'll just load everything in the wagon that we can just walk down from our cabin. And I was like, yeah, that works. And we get there, and I was like, look that. We're gonna drive the FJ down there. I am not walking clear down there. Well, when you sent me pictures and there was like cars parked on the beach, I'm like, We me and Mari Bull sat there all day and Pete, the amount of cars, like little cars, driving down there. I was just blown away. I'm like, who would bring their car down here? One, you're gonna get stuck in the sand. Because it was the like it was like Lake Pal Sandy. It was sandy sandy. And I was like, thank goodness I have the FJ. Yeah. Like this is what this vehicle was made for.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, it's you you would have been fine. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like we, I it was a breeze getting through there in the FJ. But she's like, I'm so glad you have the FJ. I'm like, me too.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you're not taking her Civic down there.

SPEAKER_00

Heck no! There was no front wheel drive, two-dollar car. It's so low to the ground.

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Yeah.

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That car. Oh my gosh. So I mean it's a little car.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's a perfect car for her in the city.

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Yeah.

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But I don't know. You do you also got your your dream ride right now.

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Dream car.

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Yeah.

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I love that car.

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Such a random dream car.

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I know.

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It's sweet though.

SPEAKER_00

I had wanted an FJ since I was a teenager. And then when you sent me that picture, oh, I was like, sold. Send the deposit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Bought it that night.

SPEAKER_00

We literally picked it up that night.

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Yeah. Yep. And didn't even it was dark when we picked it up.

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Yeah.

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In the dealership parking lot, and we had put that deposit down. Over the phone.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I was like, well, I hope everything looks good in the daylight because we're taking it home.

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Literally bought it at sight on scene.

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Yep. It looked good. It still looks good.

SPEAKER_00

It looks good. It runs good. It's been great.

SPEAKER_03

No wrecks. Brand new paint job. Toyotas have they fade. The paint fades. Heather has a nice Toyota Highlander.

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Yeah.

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Faded paint. And it is not very old. It's like a 2019 or a 2019.

SPEAKER_00

Well, mine was originally that light silver color. And they did a paint job on it, and it's that matte cement. Cement gray. Looks so sweet. People are always so shocked. They're like, what year is that? And I tell them it's an 07. They're like, no way.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there's only there's only seven years of FJ Cruiser of that model, that style. And it's from 07 to 14.

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Yeah.

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And there's not very many color options.

SPEAKER_00

No. I love the green one.

SPEAKER_03

The green one? So that's a later model. That's probably closer to 2014.

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Yeah.

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They had a ton of silver. They got like a cream color, blue, yellow.

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Yeah.

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Purple. The matte green.

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Yeah.

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They have that. That blue one's like a gray blue color.

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Yeah, the new, the newer.

SPEAKER_03

It's like a it's a that's a newer model FJ that's like a 14. I mean, Toyota Pro. I they probably have released a new one, but guess what?

SPEAKER_00

We aren't buying a new car so I do not want a car payment. It's actually the worst.

SPEAKER_03

It's the worst.

SPEAKER_00

I was just telling April about me getting stuck on Bear Valley and my Kia. She was dying.

SPEAKER_03

Preston Scott save a bit.

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Yes, I will never forget that moment ever in my whole life.

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Well, and like where you got stuck in the snow. I got I know where there's phone service on Bear Valley.

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I didn't have phone service.

SPEAKER_03

And Preston must have barely had phone service because he actually Snapchatted me and he was behind you. And he's like, is this Chelsea? Because you had the only yellow key that you would have ever seen. And you were pushing snow.

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Oh, I was pushing snow at the front of my car.

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And I was like, dude, if you get my Snapchat, just pick her up and bring her to Esquanet. There's no way she's making it here.

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I remember like He rolled in. Yep. I well the whole time this I was like, I was doing fine. I was almost to the top of Bear Valley. And I was like, I kind of lost my momentum and it was snowing so hard. And I came to an abrupt stop. And I was not going anywhere. No cell service. Couldn't get off the road. I was like a sitting duck in the middle of the road. It was horrible. Anyway, but this red dodge behind me. I was like, who the hell is behind me? Because everybody else is like screaming past me.

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Everybody's keeping their momentum going.

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And so I was like, who is this guy behind me in this truck? Like he was actually kind of making me nervous. And finally, I had sat there, I don't know, five minutes, and all of a sudden he comes to the passenger side and rolls the window down. I'm like, oh my gosh, I know you. It was like, oh, it was it was a scary moment in my life. Yeah. He was like, we're just gonna load your stuff and you're gonna get in with me. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you, Preston.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, Preston. That wasn't the only time I got stuck somewhere in that car coming back from Escalant. I got stuck in Penguinch that morning, remember?

SPEAKER_03

Stuck in Penguitch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I was it was when I was driving back and forth still.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

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And I was early. I you I had to leave Escalant by four.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. And yeah, living in Escalant. And working in Burl.

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Yeah.

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That was a tough little while.

SPEAKER_00

Tough little while.

SPEAKER_03

See, there's always seems to be these tough times.

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Well, that was before I moved there. Because I wasn't living in Escalant yet. It was that spring that I moved there.

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Yeah.

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So I had got stuck early in the morning. I'd made it to Penguich and they shut the road down. They shut uh I don't know what is what road is that.

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So it when you turn in Penguich, you go on 89.

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89. I got they had closed it down. And so I'm literally sitting in Penguitch at I don't know, it was maybe five in the morning. And I was like, well, crap.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm just gonna have to say it here in an hour.

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Um, I'm kind of currently stuck in Penguitch because the road's shut down. I'll try and get there as soon as I can. And so I had to sit in Penguich for like an hour and a half. And they did finally open it up and it was fine, but wild.

SPEAKER_03

Wild. What a hell of a commune.

SPEAKER_00

The things I would do for you.

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Thanks, baby.

SPEAKER_00

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks for sticking around.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What was your favorite part of today?

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Oh, I slept in till 9 a.m.

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Me too.

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That was crazy.

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That was so nice.

SPEAKER_00

Clark did come in the room a couple of times too.

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She did, but she c she kind of let us sleep in. I feel like she did alright.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she did pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

I heard her come in this morning.

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She came in at like 7 45 and woke me up and asked me if she could have something. And I Oh, she wanted me to open something.

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Oh, she haven't.

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I don't know. I don't remember. I think I no, I'm pretty sure it was a juice box.

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Oh.

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And she needed help opening it. So that was at like 7.45, and then she came in around it was like an hour later. She came in and was asking me questions, and she'd lean down in my face and say, Mom, I really would like you to wake up now.

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She was ready.

SPEAKER_00

She was ready for some company, apparently.

SPEAKER_03

I need you guys to get out of bed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I just can't wait till Tucker is that age. Because they have so much independence at this age. It's like she gets up, she roams around, gets herself a snack, watches TV. Like she's just in this little independent stage.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's so nice. I also think that when Tucker is in a bed, yeah. Clark, because Clark wakes up and she wants Tucker to be awake.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she goes in his room.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But it she also can't get him out of the crib.

SPEAKER_00

No, she can't get him out of the crib.

SPEAKER_03

So I feel like if they were both free, they might maybe they would leave us alone on a weekend.

SPEAKER_00

This little tiny piece of me almost wants to put him in the same room. But then again, I'm like, I really like the way Tucker sleeps. Tucker's such a good sleeper compared to Clark was.

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Is still. He sleeps in the complete darkness. And I know you're gonna argue me. You're gonna argue.

SPEAKER_00

Pick your battles, Bit. Pick your battles. I'm not I'm just this is a battle I will this is a hill I will die on.

SPEAKER_03

I'm throwing this out here. If she slept without the TV on.

SPEAKER_00

That's why we have a timer set on it. It turns off. Her TV turns off.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we gotta set the timer.

SPEAKER_00

I set the timer.

SPEAKER_03

Did you do it tonight?

SPEAKER_00

No, I forgot. But we can go in and do that.

SPEAKER_03

I'll I'll shut it off. I can do it from my phone.

SPEAKER_00

Great.

SPEAKER_03

But she slept the entire time you were gone. All night long. The thing I'm talking 8 to 8:30 in the morning.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, let me explain something really quick about when you for me, kids are kids are, especially our kids, are way different with you than they are with me.

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Very much.

SPEAKER_00

Very much different. Different personalities. So when it's just me at home, and I still have to get up at 5 a.m. every day, I'm going to prioritize my sleep just as much as I want them to sleep. But I'm not gonna fight with her. Like I have to pick my battles.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So like when it's just you and you're like, at this point, I really don't care. If you'll just go in your room, that would be fantastic. So I can so I can tub and get in bed. So for me, it's easier to just let her watch the show. Let her watch the show so I can go to bed. That's where I'm at. But yeah, you when you have them, they're completely different kids.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, they are. They act completely different. They're not they ask where mom is, but they aren't like you know how like you left today just to go to the store.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, we snuck out.

SPEAKER_03

Literally tears flying as soon as you left. Bawling that you had left. And I'm like, What's the point? Why are you crying? You know?

SPEAKER_00

Because they want mama. Well, I know they do, but at this age, they just want mom.

SPEAKER_03

They do.

SPEAKER_00

They do. It's just natural, and as they get older, it will be less and it won't be a big of a deal. But right now, they just want me. Yeah. And that's fine. And and I love it. But also I'm like, can you please go to somebody else? Like you get to a point you're like, please don't touch me.

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Stop hanging on me.

SPEAKER_00

Stop hanging on me. I'm I'm like, I'm tapped out.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I think it you're not the only one that deals with that.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

There's a lot of people out there that have kids hanging on.

SPEAKER_00

It's just natural. It's just they just want mom.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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And that's okay. If you get older, it'll get better.

SPEAKER_03

That's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not forever. And you gotta enjoy the moments.

SPEAKER_03

Not a bad thing at all.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

Well, sweet.

SPEAKER_00

What was your I you didn't say what your favorite part of the day was? Oh. Was it sleeping until nine?

SPEAKER_03

Well, no, that was pretty nice. I think my favorite part of today was making French fries.

SPEAKER_00

Those were dang good French fries. They were. I will give you that. You guys killed it on the French fries.

SPEAKER_03

We don't ever do that. We it was delicious.

SPEAKER_00

It was.

SPEAKER_03

It was fun.

SPEAKER_00

It was. It was good dinner. We had a wet. Making homemade French fries? For sure.

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Soaking them for getting the starch off them. Putting them in the fridge for two plus hours.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03

So the water's cold. And then I don't know. They were amazing.

SPEAKER_00

They were great. They were crispy.

SPEAKER_03

We had steak, French fries, and seven layer salad. Seven layer salad, which has got everything but the kitchen sink in it. And it was freaking delicious.

SPEAKER_00

Fire. It's one of my favorite salads.

SPEAKER_03

That was my favorite part of the day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna yeah, two of them. Sleeping in was great. Making French fries with dinner. Dinner was just delicious.

SPEAKER_00

We always have really good dinners on the weekends though, because my mom and Meb are always here.

SPEAKER_03

We usually have company.

SPEAKER_00

We always have company on the weekends, which I enjoy. I love seeing my mom and hanging out with her.

SPEAKER_03

She was having some people over is always kind of nice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But well, sweet, that was a good talk.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_03

I'm tired. Me too. Ready for bed? It's eleven thirty. It's eleven thirty at night. We've been in here forever.

SPEAKER_00

We can't film unless our kids are asleep.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I know. We can't record anything.

SPEAKER_00

I know.

SPEAKER_03

Well, sweet. Let's wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. I love you.

SPEAKER_00

Love you bye.