Cocky and Humble Podcast
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Cocky and Humble Podcast
Born to Struggle, Built to Rise
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Sean sits down with Logan Verboomen to talk about what it really means to keep pushing when things get uncomfortable.
From his wrestling background to taking on his first Half Ironman and now training for Ironman Wisconsin, Logan’s story is rooted in competition, discipline, and a willingness to find out just how far he can push himself. All while balancing a 9–5, training, content creation, and everything else life throws at him.
But the conversation goes deeper than training. Logan opens up about the meaning behind “Born to Suffer,” how losing his godmother helped shape his purpose, and why he now sees the hard moments as an opportunity to show other people what they’re capable of.
Sean and Logan get into confidence, competition, mental toughness, knowing when to push and when to recover, and the discipline it takes to keep chasing a better version of yourself.
How bad do you want it when it stops being easy?
Okay, welcome to episode four of Cocky and Humble. Right now I have with me Logan Verboomen. Thanks for being with me today, buddy. Yeah. What's going on? I'm excited to have you. This episode is kind of one I wanted to get into more your training for an Iron Man. So we'll go more of like why you wanted to get into that, stuff like that. But I'm an athlete myself, retired athlete, but I feel like I'll always be an athlete. I really just love the whole mentality of training and sports and just what it's like the life of an athlete. I think a lot of people don't know that and what it goes into it. So I'm gonna want to talk about that today. But we're gonna also forego the shot of tequila because you are in training. So no, no, I I'm not it's funny because I'm not a big drinker, but then we started that we did we did the tequila shot for the first episode to be like, okay, let's just like cut the bottom or the the you know the the nerves. Yeah. And then I was like, oh wait, that's kind of fun. I should do that, everything like that. So no, it's I'm very happy to also skip it. I'm also gonna start out with something that you're cocky about and something that you're humble about, since that's my my uh my title. But cocky can be something that you are cocky slash confident about. Like I think cocky is obviously a negative, it'll be a negative word. Every professional athlete is cocky. Um it's just how they represent it or not, you know? So cocky confident, and then something you're humble or humbled by and or thankful for. Yeah, so you can go first, I can go first, you get to choose.
SPEAKER_01First off, about the drinking thing. Okay, I don't mind having a bottle of wine and some drinks every once in a while. Belgian beer is my favorite. Okay, but like I said, you're Belgian. Exactly. Athletically, like obviously, this is what I do, like Ironmans are what I do, but at the same time, you have to have fun. Like, life is way too fucking short to not have some fun in your life. So I main uh maintain my uh my drinks every once in a while, but tequila's not really for me. Yeah, I I always say I get weird on tequila, so I don't know how that's that freaking works out. T-lugs are like it's like, yeah, whiskey, tequila. It's like I don't know where the the I'm not gonna be a shot guy.
SPEAKER_00I just like it's like every time I take the shot, I'm like like the prime, I can only imagine my face looks like every time I'm doing it. It's but it's it's became a fun, it could be a fun thing. We'll see how it goes, but for now it's it works well. But I do love that. I do love that, yes, it's all about balance, and I think some sports can get away with it. And eventually once in a while, when I was trick trying to make an Olympic team, I just didn't like alcohol. I still don't really like alcohol, but I was training like in the foreigner hurdles, everything was for like hundreds of tenths. Like I could miss an Olympic team by literally like a thousandth of a tenth, you know. So it's like I felt like I was, I mean, I was already I was I'm a 5'10 uh guy out there trying to go over three foot hurdlers. I was like, I need every advantage I can. So I was in that in that mentality. I think I went probably insanely strict because it was like my whole life, you know. But in general, yes, I think that you need to have some balance and and enjoy fun and make the process fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, balance is key, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, balance is key. So you want me to go first or you go first?
SPEAKER_01No, I'll go first. Something I'm honestly I wouldn't say cocky about, I would say more um confident in. Okay. Is first off, obviously myself. Like as I grew up, I grew up as such a unconfident kid in who I wanted to be as I grew up. So a little bit of backstory about me. I was freshman year of high school was like 100 pounds, uh 98 pounds, like 4'8. Um, sophomore year was 106 pounds wrestling, had 113 pounds, five foot. Junior year, I was only 120 pounds. So late bloomer for sure. Unbelievable late bloomer, but I always had a problem with confidence, and this is where it all stemmed from. And after college, when I started actually posting on social media, yeah, I would say, as far as confidence goes about how I dress, how I look, how I feel, and honestly, just how I communicate to others now is like a completely different story. So if I were to be one like cocky about one thing, it'd be like I was never cocky in the aspect of I always was that little dude from Little Shoot, Wisconsin. And now I get to be holy smokes, like I actually believe in myself. I believe in who I am.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And um, I think that's where I think that's where my confidence rolls in. It's just honestly, it's just myself.
SPEAKER_00I think that's I I just I love that. Like a lot of my podcast is just more like I will and it will engrave, it'll be some point in every every episode where I will just talk about self-love, self-worth, self-respect. Yeah. And it it's so many people put all the efforts into so many things in life. And I'm like, everyone should put effort first into loving themselves because life isn't great until you do. Yeah. It like literally life sucks until you do. Like you think it's cool and you try to do all these things, and one day it'll hit you. You're like, fuck, I don't love myself the way I should. You want to, or you have you think you do, yeah, but you don't. We're also an only children or only children. I think that, and I want to go talk about that later in the podcast. I think that being an only child is tough. At some point, it's great, and I loved it because you get all the attention, but like there is a lot of pressure. So I will get into that later. Okay, and what's your humble?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, humble. Actually, I want to say humbled by is seriously, I am humbled by everyone that is doing better than me, which is like insanely. So I'm like such a competitive person in the aspect of like if someone is doing better at whatever it may be triathlon, running, swimming, biking, or even just like money-wise, or making more money from the me, it doesn't really matter too much. But at the same time, like realistically, I'm so humbled in the aspect of by them. I'm like, I need to work better. Like, how can I get better to the point where I'm right there in it? Like right there with them. So it's just like kind of like that, where it's like, he's ahead of me now, but he I'm gonna come up and I might pass him, and then he passes me, and it's like that is what I live for, and that is what I'm humbled by every day. Yeah, it's literally a race. Like, yeah, you're like literally a race to the end. It's like when you're on the trail front or like uh lakefront trail and you're running or whatever or whatever. And sometimes when a guy or girl passes me, I might be on like my zone two run or an easy run.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, fuck, yeah, I gotta go. Yeah, like that's the hardest thing for me. It's like today, I'm like, chill day, and then somebody pull pull goes right by me. I'm like, you motherfucker. Yeah, like I'm like you can't let it happen. No, I'm like, I'm like, it just ignites me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So my I'm doing one every time, so I think uh it will over time get tough, but um that it's good because I I get to keep digging. Yeah, I would say my cocky, especially for this episode, I think it's great, but my cocky is my athletic ability. I am very I was very blessed, talent like with talent and and my athletic ability, but I wasn't the most, obviously. Um, I competed against guys who had so much natural talent, it was insane. And what drove me crazy was that they had more natural talent than me, but they didn't work as hard as me. Yeah, and that would always piss me off. I'd be like, You motherfucker, you're so lucky, you're so talented. Yeah, you know what I mean? And so, but I still overall feel very blessed to be as athletic as I as I am. You know, I play a ton of beach volleyball and I'll get out there and I'll play against like 21-year-olds and I'm like, motherfucker, it's on and I'll and I'll beat them, you know, like they're 6'3, I'm 5'10, and when I'll beat them. But I would say my humble, I will say, as much as I, you know, going with that to the opposite, as much as I feel like I, you know, am so so athletic in this and that, there are some people in this world that are just so freakishly talented. It's insane. Yeah. Um, you know, one of my coaches who coached me, he was a gold medalist and great athlete. Great coach, but so I won't say his name. But he I remember one day in practice and I was like, man, I wish I could have like, I wish I could have competed, like or like trained with you in practice. And he was like, Negative. And I was like, What do you mean? He was like, I would go out there, I'd run my coach, he'd be like, We have four, you know, four, four, three hundreds. I'd run one, I'd rip it, and I'd walk off track and they'd go home. I was like, excuse me. Like it was infuriating. I was like, I here I am. If anything, I'm like, I'm gonna do an extra rep. I'm gonna do, you know, and he like, and yet he won gold. You know what I mean? So it's like he was just a freak. He like he was a freak of nature, a super talented guy. So I am very humbled by the fact that there are so many people out there that kind of like you are better than me, yeah athletically, and that makes yeah, it makes me fired up, motivated, but then also sometimes angry.
SPEAKER_01There, there's always angry, they like the always going to be a person in the gym that's bigger than you, a person that's faster than you, a person that's just better athletically than you, but also at the same time, I had the same situation when I was in high school, huge wrestler. Wrestling was my whole entire life, and there was this one kid, and honestly, I thank the guy now because it made me such a better athlete, a better wrestler. He was just like naturally talented at wrestling, like, but didn't give a flying shit about wrestling, and it ticked me off to the bone, ticked me off to the bone, and I could never beat him either. Could never beat him on a wrestling.
SPEAKER_00And it seems like they're now trying and they're still beating him.
SPEAKER_01Literally, yes, never tried, like quit the team a little bit, like for a little bit, and then went back on the team because his parents like would like forced him or bribed him. Yeah, and I was like, dude, this kid's yeah, but I was like, so I worked my damn ass off. And later on, I mean, a senior year of high school, I actually was at a different high school and we had to we had to wrestle uh to get to sectionals and I beat him, and it was like the best feeling like ever of like this kid might be more talented than me, this kid might be just better athletically than me, but I never fucking. I never I I never gave up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, never and you outwork him. And I had to in my in my career, I had to outwork a lot of people that if they worked as hard as I did, they would have beat me. But I took advantage of the fact that they were they were did work as hard because they were living off their natural town. They're like, I don't need to, or they don't want to, and they weren't as passionate. And it was I wanted more than anything to have those Olympic rings. I never, you know, made Olympic team, but I wanted my just my dream was to get those Olympic rings tattooed on my body. And so I want to get into so your background, obviously, only child from Wisconsin. You got into you started with wrestling, and then you college you went to Oshgosh.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I love it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but then and then you didn't compete in the college, right?
SPEAKER_01No, I was supposed to compete in uh wrestling in college. I was committed to wrestle, but I ended up just being like fell out of love with the sport, really got into like bodybuilding, lifting, and I was like, you know what?
SPEAKER_00This is this is the direction I want to take. A lot of I feel like I've talked to a lot of people, whether it's like tennis, tracks, swimming, like individual sports, yeah, the burnout's real. Yeah, we just so it's just you and you and you're yes, you're training with a team, but like you, you, you, and I even in the end when I retired from running, I was more mentally burned out than I was physically. Like my body could have kept going. Yeah, I just was like the sacrifice just got exhausted. Yeah, man. Um so then you you graduate, you get you're now working nine to five, and then what one day you're like Iron Man?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so fucking interesting. What the fuck is wrong with you? I know, I know.
SPEAKER_00As a speed work, as a sprinter, uh that just blows my mind.
SPEAKER_01I know it's it's crazy because like, first off, as a wrestler, and and everyone needs to know this, our gears are grinded a little bit differently, like just like mentally, it's a little bit different. Like, I win at all costs, like I that's what I want. Yeah, a little Mike Tyson in here winning is like winning, period. Like there's nothing else after that, and I will do anything to win, which seems like this like crazy mindset, and obviously, you know, it it it it goes off competitively and everything like that. I take that into real world real world situations of work and everything like that. It's not like I'm competing against you know my friends in freaking any like beer pong or anything like that, even though I might. But no, in a fun way, even yeah, in a fun way, but at the same time, my gears have been grinded totally differently from wrestling and um just like the worth ethic and you know who I want to be in my future. I'm always chasing my future self. Love that Matthew McConaughey cult. So yeah, just like always chasing 10 years. But yeah, after like senior year of college, getting into running, I saw a couple of running videos. I was like, Yeah, maybe I should start, you know, treating my my health better just because I was wanting to get as big as possible as naturally as possible. It never happened. What was that big like the biggest you like the biggest I ever got was probably 190 200 pounds of just like really bulking up, and I'm only five nine, so it kind of looked like an oompa loompa, but at the same time it was like it would be a great like cotton. I was wanting to eventually do a bodybuilding show, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Got into running, but that that lifting heavy is great for your size, like yeah, 5'9, 5'10, you can bulk better.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I and I think the shorter you are, the easier to put on size and keep your size, right? Yeah, saw my first half iron man go down in Door County, Wisconsin after my after my senior year of college. You're attending? No, just attending, yeah, just watching, watching a relay go down. Dude, I got hooked. I was like, you know what? Screw it. I'll sign up next year for it. Uh it was a Wisconsin half iron man last year. Trained, uh, didn't know what I was doing, uh swimming for the first time. I used to swim actually to cut weight in wrestling, so I kind of knew what I was doing there. Never biked ever, like ever. Like clipping pedals, the worst thing ever. Crashed every day. And then running. I mean, I got short legs, right? So, like, I'm just like not a distance runner. I was always used to those quick explosive movements. Um, so it took a long time to get used to. But after that first half, Iron Man, I mean, in the middle of it, I was like, I'm never doing this thing again. This sucks. This is the worst thing ever. I've never done it. I'm obviously Rockford, I'm doing it, and then I'm now I'm training for Iron Man Wisconsin in six weeks. So, like, it's it's come full turn, but it's it's been awesome, dude.
SPEAKER_00There is, I mean, a lot of people like you know, even I went to watch the Chicago Marathon, and even what I I I never I personally don't want to do. I've done half marathons. I don't want to, I'm just I just for my body, I do a I do a lot all my all the sports I play are very explosive. And if I train like that, I'm gonna lose all my explosive and I'm gonna work all my slow twitch, and I just don't want to do that, but I know I could do it, but and I went to watch it and it did me for like for like a week, I was like, maybe I it really made me think like maybe I should fucking because the the energy, the vibe, you're seeing people, and you're like, I can fucking do this. And it's like it, it I don't I it's crazy how it hooks you, yeah. So I can see it.
SPEAKER_01It is it is insane. My one of my buddies was like, you know what? I'm gonna go and race, like I'm gonna do a half a marathon today. Just I'm gonna run a half marathon by myself, no one around, but just gonna do it. I'm like, dude, you gotta sign up for like an actual half iron, the half marathon, because it's so much different. Like being in the moment with people cheering you on. First off, your adrenaline is like bonkers, so you're actually like shit. Yeah, it is, and honestly, just like the people that surround like the people that surround Iron Man, especially even marathon training, I'm sure, too, and marathons and um any any multi-sport. Um, the the people are just great, like so supportive. Like everyone is shooting for the same goal, but they want everyone at this goal at the same time. Like no one is like uh envious of the other, which is awesome.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I feel like those sports that just it does you do a lot of training on your own, but I think there's also you do also need uh like it's it's helpful. It's like yeah, I'm sure you you probably group with other guys to like do group sessions, you know, trade to whether it's a track workout or a long ride, a long cycle ride, just like you can do it on your own certain things, and you kind of do because everyone is you know the schedule's all over the place, but like you do need community in that, and you see you see those people who are rooting for each other and carrying each other, and as much as you're trying to beat that person in the race, you're also that person's you're carrying them, they're carrying you, and you're trying to be at the same time. So there is like so much I feel like like community in that in that yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's it's been great, man.
SPEAKER_00So, what do you feel like is the hardest like of the three? What is like do you still now at this point you've been doing it more often? Like, what do you feel is you're still like the toughest leg of yeah, of the yeah, it's gotta be running. Running, right?
SPEAKER_01It has to be running down to a T. I can't figure it out. I can't figure it out. Like, I mean, realistically, like where I'm at in you know, half Iron Man and you know what I've accomplished of Half Iron Man and my times. Like a lot of people would be like, Oh, that's like that's a great time. And I think it's a great time, like great time too. I'm very happy to be able to run that time. But I think out of the three different sports, just running is just a foreign language to me almost. It's just like you can't pick it up. Some days I have it, some days I don't. And it's like this ever just just a mental battle every day uh with myself and my life.
SPEAKER_00I mean, my sport every day, so we you know, obviously we we run like elite, I would run six days a week, and being a sprinter, it's obviously very different than running, but it unlike any other sport, it's only your legs, like you, you know, like in football, you might do a day, okay. We're gonna like, you know, we're not we're we're not gonna put on you know pads today, or it's gonna like run routes just to whatever, like isn't every day. We need to push ourselves and we need our legs, and like there's I mean one day my coach gave me a workout and it was a very doable workout. Bro, my legs we did like because we did lactic acid training the day before. Yep. I had so much lactic acid, just like still building my legs. I did two reps, and my coach was like, Are you? I was like, I'm dead. Like my legs feel like they weight, literally, I have like ankle weights on. And she was like, Shut it down, put take your shit, go home, eat, sleep, whatever. Next day came back, wasn't even trying, cruising. You know, it's like it's just the legs are it running, it's just it's brutal. And like some days you don't days you feel like you're not even trying, and your legs just got that pop in them, and some days you're running through like water.
SPEAKER_01I think I think that's one of the parts of of being an athlete is to understand that some days are gonna be good days. Yeah, some days are gonna be bad days, and some days are gonna be decent days. Yeah, knowing when is a good day, when is a bad day, and when is a decent day is actually very, very important. Yes. When to push your body to the limits and when not to, and when to, hey, hey, uh this is not my day today. Yeah, and that is totally okay because I'm going to have so much more of them, and it's gonna teach me how to run better, how to how to be faster, how to be stronger in the sport that I want to do. So yeah, every everyone has bad days.
SPEAKER_00Something that I feel like I struggled with, and I wonder if you feel the same way as it like because I I think you and I are so similar in our mentalities, which is why it was like I have to get this guy on my podcast. But it's I there was a there was a day if I didn't feel good. And I knew like I knew the answer deep down was shut it down, Sean, go home. But being an individual sport, I still had that mentality, which was like, Sean, you're being weak. Sean, you're being you're being you're being a pansy. Like, no, like you need to fucking tough his workout out. It's gonna hurt, it's gonna suck, and you just gotta do it. But sometimes that's not actually the best answer. The best answer is to go home because then you do risk yourself being at a chance of overtraining. Yeah. So I feel like I was always in a battle. As I got later in my life, I did a better job and knowing when to shut things down and when to be like, okay, that training is sometimes a rough draft. Yeah, it's not always you have to hit that workout that day. Like you're like, okay, I'm gonna try. If it's great and you go for it, great. But like if you don't feel good, you need to shut it down, get some recovery, and then hit it the next day. So it's such a constant battle of like knowing like when to act. There are moments where you're like, okay, I feel good. I'm just I'm dying right now, but I can fucking do this. Yeah. And there's days where you're like, your body's saying, Stop, like, shut me down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, really deal with that all the time. Realistically, first off, it comes down to recovery, right? Which is which is huge. Like, if you don't get enough recovery, those days are gonna happen. But second off, some days you are going to be beat down and you're going to have to lay off. But at the same time, I feel like as as humans, as we grow older, we understand those points where it's like, okay, I know what my body's telling me. Yeah. As as I mean, even three years ago, right? Like in college, like even if I was feeling sore in the shoulders and anything like that, I was like, I'm pumping out a chest, no matter what. Like, no matter what. Stop being, yeah, stop being a weak little little boy about it. And I still have those moments. And I think as as men, we tend to override all of our thoughts into the aspect of stop being so weak.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, when when it yeah, be tough, uh, shut off the brain, shut off the mind, and just do it. When sometimes for especially mental health, I I think those days, even athletically or anything in in your life, the the days that you know you aren't supposed to be doing, you you have to lay back. And that's just all it's a part of life that you need to learn.
SPEAKER_00And it is a really it's uh a very, very special and an uh insanely important part of being an athlete. And I think a lot of us don't find that until later on in our career. Like because you know, we're young, we're ambitious, and we want to just go, go, go. And like you said, like as men, it's just like, you know, quitting or shutting it down for the day is is you were a quitter or you were, you know, you know, I'm working hard enough. And it's like it really is a science of finding out those days where you're like, I am tired, but I can push today. I need to stop like my body literally can't do this and then shut it down. So it's just that'll make your training so much better, and just you know, either the because if you overtrain, you're fucked.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. I mean, you do need the rest days, you do need the adequate sleep. Uh, obviously, having a weak mind all the time is is obviously bad, yeah. Right. Like having a a strong, mature mind about you know, as far as athletic goes is is great, but uh like yes, having the weak mind sometimes uh is not okay, and sometimes it's like okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like this, there are days where you're yeah, I'm some some days you're gonna be looking yourself in the mirror and be like, Yeah, just because I'm tired does not mean I can't push a little longer. Yes. And your body can always push a little bit longer. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I just I just I don't know, like I think this could be a very controversial statement and this is who I am, but like I think society has gone really fucking weak. Yeah. I have it drives me crazy. Like I just and you are so like mentally grown for your age. Like folks is 23 years old. Um 23 still, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 24, August 16th. So coming up. Coming up. Yeah, coming up here. Big 24.
SPEAKER_00You are so I mean, when I so it's funny how we we actually met through, I was going through like just like scrolling one day, came across a reel, it was one of yours. And I was and I'm always looking for people who just like train, like who are like tough, who want to train, who want to get after, want to do track workouts, and came across your page. And I saw some stuff that was like, I don't do this because it's easy, I do it because it's it's hard, and I want to put like I was like, fucking love. Like I was like, Yes. And I was like, Oh shit. Yeah, I was like, he lives in Chicago. Like you just don't, you don't see a lot of like like athletes like that or training for something in Chicago because the weather is tough here, like eight months a year, it's hard to train. And so I followed you, and then literally two weeks later, I'm on a run with my buddy, yeah, and I stopped by this drinking fountain, and then you roll up, and I was you're talking. I was like, I swear I fucking know this guy. I was like, and I just been being in fitness, you know, I see so many faces, like, maybe. And I was like, I think I recently followed him. So I was like, Hey, and then I was like, I was like, I think I recently followed you. You're like, Oh, really? Yeah, and you look at all I did. So you followed me back, and then we just start talking about like training, and then it's like such a small world, but I'm like so fucking glad I did because now here on my podcast, but I just related so much to like your mentality and your and I then when you told me your age, I was shocked. Um, which a lot of people are usually shocked in a different way about my age because I'm 20 years older than you and I'm 43. Yeah, but I still like I see so many people now, like these young kids, and it's just like they want it, they want things handed to them and they want like that. I don't know, like my last episode that everyone wants something like a quick fix, like you know, of course, a Zembic. If you're if you need it and you're extremely overweight and it's a health thing, great. But like people are getting a whole Zembic that shouldn't. People are doing peptides that I'm like, and then they're trying to like think they're so cool, like, oh bro, I'm like I'm flexing and I have like this. I'm like, bro, you wouldn't fucking look like that if you didn't fucking give yourself a shot. It makes me live it. Yeah, I'm not impressed. So, all you guys out there who think you're flexing and you think you're the shit and like whatever people sliding your DMs, you're you're not, it's not you. It's like you're you're it's yeah, like it's such an enhancement. And I'm like, what happens about just going and just doing the work and seeing what you can look like naturally and and you know whatnot? And yeah, yes, like peptides are so sweat natural, but not the way they're doing it. It's unfortunate, yes, and it makes me mad. So, you know, I'm so lucky to look the way I do because I spits, but it's because I work hard and I and I I still eat well and I still push myself, and I just if people were to like take care of themselves, I don't do drugs, I don't drink that often. Yeah, and I just feel like people need to be more accountable. If you're gonna go out there and get and be hungover every fucking weekend and wonder why you have bags under your eyes, and you know, like that's your fucking reason. Yeah, like seriously, take accountability for your actions, you know what I mean? Like 100%, man. So I don't know. I just come from a tough love, tough like like if you want it, go get it. And I don't know. I just think society's soft now, and that may be me because I'm getting older, but no, it's it's it's not.
SPEAKER_01It's I I do truly think our our society is weak. Yes, the the way that our society is is moving is is definitely a weak mindset. Um now, do I think that having emotion is a great thing to have? Awesome. Yes, but at the same time, just the way that some people have been perceiving the world and and and like you said, just weak-minded individuals, it's it's hard to believe that no one's no one's wanting to work for what they want. Yeah, like everyone wants the shortcut way, yep. Shortcuts, it's and by all means, if I could do a shortcut way and get there right away, that'd be sweet. But at the same time, it doesn't work like that. No, and it never will. And it's just it's something interesting to talk to different individuals and like see what their goals and aspirations are because they're totally different than um the goal-minded and goal-focused and the the the the tough-minded individuals that I guess I've talked to and I've seen, especially in the Iron Man space.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So only children are drawn to me. I mean it's amazing at how many people like all me, their only children. And I think it's the mentality of like it's just us. We don't have anybody else to like it's like the whole spotlight was on us. Our parents, like, if we if we if we failed in school, like our parents, like, okay, my one child failed. Like, you know, it's like, yeah, I feel like where if you have like three other siblings and you got a C minus, but then they got they think they might focus more focus more on the all their A's and not their C. Like, I don't know, but I just naturally remember if I look back, I naturally always had pressure on and I it was pressure that I put my parents into it. I just naturally had pressure on myself, and I think that comes with being an only child. Yeah, um, but I also love it later in my life. Like I have insane high expectations of myself. Yeah, and I know like I know you do too. I can tell by talking with you. And I think that that drives you like the things that you want, and when I talk, the just the conversations that we've had, the things you say, I'm just like, gosh, this guy, you're just so many years ahead of like of your mind than your actual age, and and that's just really respectable um and commendable because I don't I don't see that a lot this age. They want the shortcut again. Yeah, so somebody came up to me and was like, Hey, I want to give you three million dollars, you want to start. They'd be like, Yeah, great, great, yeah, yeah. But I also would take that three million and I would bust my ass. I would find a way to still have that mentality.
SPEAKER_01100%. If you know, I think being an only child like us, like you said, we have a lot of pressure on ourselves. Um, not because that our parents are putting high pressure on us. Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not, but also at the same time, it's like, okay, I'm the only child, right? When I move on in life, like I need to provide for myself. I need to do the things that my parents taught me. And how am I going to do that? Takes a long time to figure out. And I'm just figuring it out now. Obviously, I'm I'm still a child at heart. I'm still a goofball. But at the same time, it's like, all right, I gotta put on my big boy pants. Like, I need to get out in the world and also experience what my parents taught me. And it definitely puts on pressure, but I think it it makes you grow as a human that much more than um some other kids that have been in you know different family situations and everything that like that. So gotta be grateful for that.
SPEAKER_00I think for me, I don't know if you think about this, but I always maybe I think I think this is an only child bands. Oh no, I guess necessarily, but for me, I'm always, I've always I don't know why, like, and it's in my parents that ever made me feel this way, but I always of course I always want to make my my parents proud, but I I always wanted to represent something that was like, wow, the their his parents raised him well. Yeah, he's res he's responsible, he's respectful, he he goes after things. You know, I have a very small family, but a lot of my like think my cousins in the family that I have are always just like Sean. I'm just like you were the one guy in the family that just like kept chasing your dreams. Yeah, you know, and I just I feel like I love I love that. I love like I know my mom in heaven is like so proud of me that I started this and that you know, she always was like, You're gonna have your own business one day, you know. And I know that she's my biggest fan still, and you know, my dad, same thing. So I don't know. I just I I I feel like a lot of people have lost like a whole mentality of like representing their parents. Like, yeah, I wanted to be like, wow, I I don't even know your parents, and I'm like, I feel like they'll be rad. I feel like I could have the best conversation with them because like because Logan's so cool. I'm like, they created this son that's like badass, so like they've got to be bad, they've got to be bad.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? My mom, my mom's badass. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my mom's badass, so is my dad. My dad's like a damn gorilla. Like, he's just like, yes, they're both badasses, I will say. But the thing is, I think also at the same time, that definitely shaped me uh into who I am, and obviously your parents as well, is as an only child, your best friends are your parents. Like, my best friends are my parents. I am a mama's boy, might be a red flag. We can talk about that at another time. But I think it's a green flag, but some good say yeah. All I want to say is that like your parents, I I grew up like just playing as a kid, like that was my best friend. Yeah, like my dad was my best friend playing like trucks and in Lego Indiana Jones and and my mom, you know, like going grocery shopping with my mom and and and going out to just different restaurants, just me and my mom. It's just like it it just makes you understand life a little bit differently in the perspective. And honestly, it I think one thing that I can fully say that I've brought away from my parents is that how adaptable I am to having grown-up conversations, and um especially with my parents' friends, my my my grandparents' friends, like anyone that's older than me, it's like I just like intellectually I can talk at a certain level where it's like, okay, I get you. You should hopefully get me as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But even then, I just feel like they were like you just you speak well, like and you you can I don't know. I just you represent yourself well and it's it's it's awesome. That's why I wanted you on here. Okay, so add your training training for an Iron Man and you're working nine to five. Yeah. How the fuck do you fit all these hours in?
SPEAKER_01Man, some days I uh I wake up and I don't even know. Um I so right now, technically, yeah, I work a nine to five sales job. Uh I sell marketing for attorneys, and then also obviously training for an Iron Man and then doing content creation, trying to do a content creation outside, juggling it every single day. Usually what my mornings look like is wake up at 4:30, 4:45, 5 o'clock, depends. Like some days I sleep in, do my first workout, do a nine to five job. Sometimes I start work at eight, end at four o'clock to get out early, and then do my second workout, come back home, make dinner, go to bed. Yeah. Same thing over, over and over again. Like I said, as a wrestler, my mind is uh geared in a little bit different direction. So when I put out a goal, like an Iron Man, like I'm gonna do anything in my power to complete it. So it just it's just the suck that you have to take. Like Iron Man, being in an Iron Man and being an Iron Man means like the undeniable pursuit of unknowingness, which is like crazy because you are out there for I mean 12 hours.
SPEAKER_00I mean your own mind.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just your own mind, like literally nothing else but you. And no one's there to help you. You learn a lot about yourself, too. It's just like how far you can push and how far you know you can you can deal with your thoughts, and it's it's insane to think about. And and when you're doing a nine to five on top of Iron Man training, it's like every day is just like holy smokes, like how am I doing this? Yeah, anyone can do tough things, anyone, anyone can do an Iron Man, anyone can do a half Iron Man. It just takes time, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it takes the mental want. Like you have to want, you have you have to want it more than it sucks to train for.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because it's gonna suck. Yeah. And like, you know, every time I got in the race with the four and hurdles, I knew before that gun went off, there's no doubt I'm gonna have my laser be filled with lactic acid. This is gonna hurt. And no matter if I if I run slow, if I run fast, it's gonna fucking hurt. So I'm like, you might as well run fast, you know. Like try to make it the best you can. So I know that we've talked about a lot about like discipline, structure, like even just the capacity to suffer. Yeah, you know what I mean? A lot of people don't have that. The second things get hard or uncomfortable, or they feel a little bit of pain, they're like, oh no, I don't like that. That's that's like a negative. It's a date. Um, and I know that we were chatting, one of your biggest phrases that I that stuck with me that I love is you felt like you were born to suffer.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I wanted to elaborate more on that. Like, yeah, what what kind of brings you to that and why?
SPEAKER_01And yeah, yeah. So it's actually an interesting story. Uh I obviously, like I said, wrestling, everything like that, shape me who who do I who I am today, but also at the same time, I don't think I knew my purpose until a year ago. Like uh once I completed the half iron man, I never knew my purpose, what I wanted to do. I started kind of doing content creation just to showcase like the half Iron Man. I'm like, this is pretty sweet. And but after that half Iron Man, I I had a realization of just you know what I was meant to do. And I I I truly, truly, truly think, yeah, I'm I'm born and on this earth to to suffer, not just for myself, but also suffer to to motivate and make people realize that they can push through any tough time in their life. Realistically, in any one of my Iron Man races, usually at the finish line, I'll throw up this like big uh angel arms at the end of it. And what born to suffer really, really stems from, and getting pretty deep into it, but my godmother was like my like second mother. Obviously, I love my mom, she's my best friend, but my godmother, my mom's sister, was like also my best friend, like the best person ever in the whole entire world. Yeah, senior or actually, I believe freshman year of college, she got ovarian cancer. It was such a rough time. She beat it and then it came back. And it was it was a really hard time because I didn't know how to deal with someone suffering. Yeah, I didn't know how to deal with how to look at someone and be like, you're you're dying. And it was like the it was the weirdest and hardest mental challenge for me to know that my godmother is not gonna be on the earth for for very much longer. Yeah. And every, I mean, every month, maybe a couple times a month, I'd go visit her, whether it'd be in the hospital or or at her house. And realistically, like even when she wasn't talking, even when she wasn't able to speak, like she would still like smile at me. And it's like I like from that day on, like, I was like, man, I need to, I need to, I need to work as hard as possible. I need to literally feel like when I am doing my Iron Man's, doing my different long distance, whatever it may be, when I'm suffering, it's like sometimes, like honestly, I think about it 40 times during my like half Iron Man. Probably is gonna be like a hundred times during my Iron Man. Yeah. But it's like, hey, like Beth, like just push me a little more, push me a little bit more. And um, I think that's I think that's what my purpose is, right? So it stemmed from my godmother never giving up until the end, yeah. Um, smiling through pain, which is so tough to do. So tough. Um, and that is that is exactly why we can do literally unbelievable things that are by you can do in your your mind honestly can't think you can do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think thanks for sharing that. I know that um that's it's all that is so tough. And the things that we have to like, you know, deal with in life and that people have to go through. And I think that in moments like that it makes you feel almost feel bad for being you being capable of that moment of like being able to run or being able to do stuff that somebody you love so much can't, you know, and it's like and but yet they're inspiring you in ways that are so much their fight, their suffer, their their struggle is so is a fight that is you know, you're being able to take that physically in a different way and and do it for them and with them. And you know, I just the the body and the brain are so connected, I think. That's why when I and even in fitness, I I know that the people that I train are capable of so much more than they maybe even they thought. Yeah, you know, I had a client the other day who I was like, you're gonna squat this today. And she was kind of like, uh you can do this. I was like, I I've seen you, I just I when I see somebody do something and I see how many reps they do it, and I see the effort they give, I'm like, I know which way you can. I just know I've done this for so long.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And she did it. And she was like, Oh my gosh. And like the next day she texted me, was like, I, you know, I put on this like cute dress, and I just felt like like my I just felt like my I just I carried my she carried herself a little bit different that day. Yeah, because like did her legs change within 24 hours? No. Are they are they gonna be continuing to change? Yes, but like she just carried herself differently that day because she realized she could do something that I helped her realize that she didn't know. Small wins, and I just fucking love that shit. You know what I mean? Small wins. That's really awesome that you, you know, have that, that that it just that you're a big part of your purpose for running, and um, but also sorry you had to go through that in your family.
SPEAKER_01And hey, that that's a part of life though, and it teaches you life lessons, and um, you know, realistically, you're gonna die at one point in your life. And you know, what are what are people gonna remember you by? Yeah, right. That's that's what I think about all the time. It's like, how can I make an impact on someone today? Yeah, who can I make an impact on someone today? It might have been in my nine to five signed to an attorney, I don't know. Yeah, like realistically, could be George from you know, uh, you know, accident attorneys or something like that, like craziness like that. But you know, what can I do today to make me one better? Yeah, two, a better person, yeah, and three, how can I impact someone's life? Uh whether it be good or or you know, maybe like correctional or motivational. So I, you know, as far as that goes, like every day I wake up and I'm like, what can I do to get a little bit better today? Just a little bit better. It doesn't matter if you get this much like better today or this much or this much, like take the small wins.
SPEAKER_00And it's just like I also think that my mindset is just like the constant, yeah, the you to believe in yourself all the time to do that, you know. And you actually don't realize like how many there, how many people you probably inspire yourself. Like, you know, I you know, you could be running on the like, you know, lake shore path, and you go and somebody's like, Wow, like that guy is like he's fit, and he's like, I like his pace. Like, okay, maybe I can go a little quicker, maybe I can push, like maybe like, or you know, maybe you pass somebody and you don't realize it because you're in or you're so going, they can't catch you, but maybe they do go a little bit quicker. Yeah, only they go, Oh, wow, I that was the fastest average, you know, four miles ever done in my life. So it's like I always am aware, and I had somebody tell me the other day, they were like, I don't think you realize how many people you actually impact because a lot of people are introverts, and so they're not gonna say, Yeah, hey, you inspired me, hey, you motivated me. You'll just have done it without them saying it. Yeah, and I bet you you've impacted hundreds of people on on your workouts or this and that, or your you know, social media, and and same thing with me that we don't even know. And I think that's so cool.
SPEAKER_01Literally, like that that training for you, your in-group personal sessions, like you impact so many different people. And then on the outside for me, it's like the content creation, like literally, like funny, like not funny coincidence, but just a story that really impacted my day was some girl DM'd me. First, I thought she was sliding in my DMs, and I was like, Oh, this is great, but it didn't turn out that way. Um, no, she yeah, I was like, Oh, oh, you just want advice. No, she she slid in and um she just like texted me. She's like, Hey, by the way, like just saw your Instagram post about like Iron Man training and why you do it. And my dad actually was like the biggest Iron Man ever. And recently he passed away. I guess we're talking a lot about passing away today, but he passed away, and I just I just felt like I got the biggest hug. And I was like, wow, like that that is exactly why I do this.
SPEAKER_00It's your why, yeah. Like everyone has their why their why, and it's always different. And one of the people that is actually inspired me the most, who's one of the most upstanding people I feel like ever, is Fernando Mendoza, like his mom, you know, is in her health and he's always there with her. And he, you know, even the dad like doesn't stand for when he wins, he sits and stays the sitting with the mom because the mom can't stand and like just seeing that she is a she is his why. And a lot of he's like talked about that, you know what I mean? And I just think he's such a respectable guy. I mean, I don't know. I I think that you know, who knows what he would do in his career if he if if you know his mom, I don't want her to be in that situation, and I hope that she can, you know, but like I feel like a lot of the success is because of her actual struggle, is like he's doing it for not just him, he is yeah, doing it, he has multiple watts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, man. That's I mean, that's what stems from a lot of people's success, right? I think there's gonna be a lot happens in those.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I'm sure literally like I'll be I don't like the Raiders, I'm a big Seahawks guy because I'm born in Ray Seattle, but like I will be rooting for him so hard.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. He seems like a good dude, like down to earth, like a very um just stand-up guy, which is which is always good to see, especially just in the NFL world where that's you know, sometimes you know crazy things that happen, it's like uh that guy's not the greatest guy in the world. But no, it's success a lot of times stems from you know past experiences and and and learning from those experiences, whether it be like you said, Mendoza's mom or or something that you know happened tragically in your life. You know, maybe you got hit by a car and you know, you you couldn't, you know, wrestle for like five years or something like that. And yeah, you work back to it and you worked out every single day and of your life, and finally that's why you see like these Olympians, right?
SPEAKER_00Like they always they all have they always have a story, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And uh one really good story is actually his name's Spencer Lee. He's this really short wrestler from Iowa. Sorry, I didn't mean to call him short, but really short uh Iowa wrestler, like 5'4, the absolute freaking beast though. His last year of wrestling, I believe. He walked off the mat. He he won the national championship. Okay, he went straight up to the camera and he said, Look, I tore both of my ACLs this year. This is why I Had two knee pads on, but excuses are for wussies. And it's like stuck with me. It's like like, yeah, excuses are for freaking wussies. Like, that's just whatever makes you go, man.
SPEAKER_00That's yeah, that's the motivation right there. I think people need to dig deeper. I just like, I don't know. I just think people need to find their why. I see all these people who are just like just existing and coasting and and they're okay with you know making this amount of money or looking this way. Like I don't I don't try to be fit and and be fast and jump high and play good be good in sports for anybody else. I do it just for myself. Like I just I love that feeling. I get a high off that feeling. I don't know, like because I know there's gonna be one day where I can't run that fast and I can't jump that high. And I you know what I mean, and I'm gonna maybe just maybe I'll just be golfing because I can't, you know, whatever. Like, but I I just I wanna like keep pushing myself to as long as for as long as I can. And I also think that that will keep me. I I think that sports and working out is the literally the path to youth. Yeah, you will stay young if you continue to like have that mindset. Yeah, I mean because mentally I'm 25. If I ra if I compete, like I'm still I just yeah, I go against people and I'm I'm just like I'm gonna fuck you up. I don't care how old you are.
SPEAKER_01You know how like the this kind of brings it back to the conversation of like, you know how lucky we are to move our feet, yeah, move our legs, move our hands, uh, do the things that we do, play the volleyball, uh run the laps around the track, do the hurdles, do the wrestling moves. Like that is also in the aspect of life, and I feel like as you grow older, you kind of realize this. Like, not everyone has that charity. Yeah, so this is why you move your body. This is why you want to be healthy. This is why you should be chasing the things that you should be chasing.
SPEAKER_00And you can be doing things that you love for so much longer. Like, yeah, there's not a lot of, I mean, there's guys by like probably aren't even like they're like they couldn't play or like they just so win, like, bro. I'm out there, like even yesterday, we were having a rally. All my buddies, they're all young, they're all 15 years younger than me. Yeah, and they're all like winded and dying. And I'm like, bro, my heart rate is like so resting heart rate. I'm good. Like, let's go. We'll serve the fucking ball.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, dude, I gotta say, like, yes, like you kick ass for for the age that you are.
SPEAKER_00Like when I first I don't like people my age because they're like Santa Claus, like they just they don't they don't play sports anymore. And they're like, I'm old now. They just they talk about being old. I'm like, shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01When I first met you, I was like, Yeah, yeah, he's probably like, I don't know, maybe like 28, 29, 30 or whatever. And you told me your age, I was like, There's no fucking, there's no way. Like this, this is this, this is why you need to be keeping your body healthy. This is exactly why.
SPEAKER_00And I want to inspire people with that. Like, I want to show people that, hey, if you take care of yourself, you're me. Of course, there's things that can happen in life, but like if you take care of yourself, it it comes back to you. Yeah, like so many people live life like with YOLO, like you only live once, they're like, I'm gonna go do this, and I'm gonna like they do, I'm gonna, you know, pull an all nighter and do meth all night. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, like, I know that's not my YOLO. My yellow is like you only live once, so take care of the body that you have. Like, yeah, yeah, you won't have it. Like, you know, for even the podcast, I'm like, I'm halfway to my death. Maybe maybe hopefully not, but like, I'm like, I gotta start it now. Like, I'm not getting any younger, like no, like push. And it's just like, I don't know. I just love the self-talk, I love like the way the mind goes to the body, the connection, and and vice versa. So yeah, okay. So you you've told me about recently about like your whole mentality, your tough mentality with like born to suffer and stuff like that. But yeah, man, you mentioned it on dates, and how do these girls usually take it? Or like, what is yeah, man? I could just see this hot chick like all dull, doled up, and you're like, Yeah, so born to go and get like super passionate, and they're just like, eh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so obviously I have this mentality of mine, and I'm definitely a motivated and goal-driven person. And which is a green flag, ladies. Green flag. Uh yes, 100%. I would say so. I've definitely gone on plenty of dates, and and I've experienced plenty of dates, and it's it's been great. Like, I'd love to, you know, whatever it may be, go on a date or anything like that. Obviously, I would love to find a wife one day, and I would love to find a girlfriend, and that that truly is would be awesome. Yeah, but I have brought up the born to suffer things on my dates, and lately, I will say, except for one girl understood it pretty well, and I was like, Oh, this is great. But the other dates, uh, maybe I don't know, a couple of them within the last six months. I've just like brought it up randomly. I'd be like, hey, like, honestly, I think my my purpose is like to suffer, which sounds like for me, even like even saying it sounds a little bit weird, but they just give me the most dirty look. They're like, what the hell is up with this?
SPEAKER_00Because I mean I have to suffer with you.
SPEAKER_01Like, is he gonna follow me home or something? I'm like, no, like that this is just what my purpose is. And yeah, realistically, though, like when we are talking about relationships and everything like that, like there's there's going to be stuff that you're not going to like fully in a person. Like, you are not going you you have to accept some part of that person because no one's perfect. Yeah, and I think the one thing that everyone needs to accept about me is that I am like I think I'm born a suffering. I think I'm I'm meant to do these hard things. I'm meant to do these Ironmans, I'm meant to motivate people to do these um crazy life things, even even if it's taking like your first Pilates class or something, you know, first yoga class. Yeah, like that's a tough thing to do, maybe for maybe not me, maybe not you, yeah, but for the average Joe, like that that might be something that they have a hard time saying yes to. And it's like that's that's just what I think I'm meant to do, yeah, is to teach these people and and motivate these people. And um, yeah, some some chicks might blow me off after the first first two dates. Me, me and my friends actually have a a funny thing right now, which I prove proved right actually this this last week. But usually the first date, it's always 100%. I always get the first date. Second dates usually like 90%. Okay. And then the third date was at zero, was that uh just a zero like donkey egg until until last week.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, it's just it's just funny. But it's also funny, like, I mean, I think for you, uh, you know, it's probably very your your body, your mindset, your it is so is so important to you. Like, you might not need a wife that wants to suffer like that as much as you, but like I just I see you as somebody who is athletic, fit. Like it's just like it that's important to them. They want they, you know, like who is an athlete in some way. It's just like for me, like I want to bro, like, you know, it's I I talk about all the time, like people are so shocked that I'm like, yeah, I just want like a dude who's a dude. Like, I don't, I don't, I personally don't find like talking, acting, walking, like I don't find gay culture attractive. Like I didn't come out for I didn't come out for culture. I came out because I was like, I am happened to be attracted to dudes. I didn't like I didn't realize it, then I was in denial about it, and now I have to accept it. But like I came out because of that. I didn't come out, so like I would need to do like I feel like my guy's gotta be like a former D1 or like it just the mentality that I have, like is just does it like people who play just like pick up volleyball with me, and like I I get like either like why is this guy fired up? I'm like, because bro, like I don't care if you suck, but fucking try, like die. Yeah, like you know, I'm out here like sprinting running laps around these people, you know. And it's like I don't know, it's just like it's just the effort that will drive me crazy. So I just feel like I would need somebody that has a similar mindset. Like, and I feel like, but that's and that's tough to find, but yeah, I think it's worth the wait. And but there are women out there that have it, and you're attracted to what you are, yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_01Like you're attracted to what you are, obviously. Yes, I I'm going to be more attractive to a person that is um you know motivated and and into fitness and in into their body and healthy like that, and so are you, yes, right? And you can push and challenge each other. Like, there are people out there for it, like there are just happens when it happens, man.
SPEAKER_00You know, my pull fish for what I'm looking for is very small, but and most likely all of my type is uh in the closet, but maybe my guy will come through my podcast one day and see this and be like, hey, I fucking relate to that guy. Like it can happen literally whenever, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it's gonna be the best thing ever, yeah, right? It's like it it's the coolest thing ever when you go on a date or you you meet someone for the first time, and you were never like you kind of like expected it to go bad or anything like that. It was like the best time ever. That is like that's awesome.
SPEAKER_00And I think two words I go with that with dating and just life and just and with training is my two favorite words, which are they're my favorite, but they're the most challenging for me. Well, one more than the other, but patience. I mean patience is really hard for me and just in general society and discipline. You know, everybody wants again the quick fix, but like I love that I have to, you know, work. I love I love I do as much as I think when I first start training again. If I've like taken like maybe a few months off to like just let myself I come back, I'm like, ooh, fuck, this is oof, this is reality check. Yeah, and two months later, I'm like, I gotta it's coming back, you know what I mean? And I love that. And then just discipline, discipline in all facets of your life, like training, diet, you know, saying no to the shot before, you know, which is great. I love it. I'm like, yeah, we're not doing the shot because I want I want you to succeed, you know, going, going home, going to a birthday, but not drinking and saying, Hey, you know, I love it, but like I'm gonna I you know, I gotta out tomorrow. Having friends that support that, not being making you feel bad, like, bro, come on, just it's like, no, bro, you should you if you don't respect that I'm doing this, that's that's not that's not a true friend. Yeah, um, for sure. Discipline in all aspects, but I also think a lot of people like need to have more discipline and like they have all this and regimen and training, and then they like don't have discipline when it comes to like dating and then you know, treating people well, or you know, there's temptation everywhere, and then they like and want that's like no. If you can sit there and like you can go, like you're so regimented and you're eating and you're sleeping, you're training, be that way with when you're dating too, as in like treating people well and staying faithful and saying you're a temptation, you know what I mean? Like, I see a lot of men that are so disciplined and like they're training, and then yet they're cheating on girls left and right, like, bro, like discipline goes in all facets, and I've always tried to be that person that's like disciplined uh all around. And it just it really hurts me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%. I mean, discipline in a relationship, or even exactly what you said in sports or whatever you may be doing in life, um, work related or anything like that, like discipline is huge, and it also teaches you, like you said, loyalty. Like it teaches you and this is why I literally say to every single one of my friends, every single one of you know, my my uh I'm an uncle, so like my my you know, my nephews and nieces, like I want them to be in sports and I want them to be in these athletic competitions because first off, they teach you discipline, but they also teach you loyalty. And why loyalty is that you're loyal to your coach, you're loyal to your teammates, yeah, and you would never do them wrong. Yeah, right. And that directly correlates with a relationship. Yes.
SPEAKER_00And like in loyalty to yourself, loyalty to your training, loyalty to just I don't know. I just I I just that there's something something you said about that. There's you know, there's so many people in the world, and you choose to have that person, and I'll bet you have episodes about just like loyalty and a lot about relationships, but I don't know. Again, it all stems from your relationship with yourself. Yeah, when you truly love yourself and you're loyal to yourself, you're gonna treat that to the people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so when's your first company? We're gonna wrap this up. And I want your first competition is coming your next year.
SPEAKER_01First competition, September 13th.
SPEAKER_00Okay, and then wins the actual Iron Man.
SPEAKER_01That that that is Iron Man, Iron Man, Wisconsin, okay, September 13th.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna be a good day, bro. I might die. I just feel like I need to drive up there. I guess we can't.
SPEAKER_01It starts at 7 a.m. and I don't get done till like seven o'clock p.m.
SPEAKER_00So I might say hi at the start and maybe go uh maybe do a workout, go shopping, and I literally told my parents, and I'm from Wisconsin, so we love we love to drink.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, and I will drink, and I seriously said, hey, like I'm gonna be on the bike for six hours probably. Yeah, do whatever the hell you want, get breakfast first, and then go to go to like there's a downtown area, it's called State Street in Wisconsin. Have your beers, have your fun, get drunk, whatever it may be. Like, no, it's gonna be great.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'd love to be out there, dude. Thanks for coming on today, and I really appreciate you. And I just respect you, and you are I'm still can't believe you're 23. It just the way you talk and the way you speak and the way your drive is really, really, really awesome to see. And I hope that keep pushing your social media and all the stuff you're doing, your content, because I I I mean, even me, like I've struggled in Chicago being motivated, which the weather is hard for me here. Yeah, me too. Me too. So, you know, I've had times where I and I need and I need a man up and be like, Sean, who fucking cares? Like, I just I'm so used to just running in nice weather all the time and the wind irritates me, and then I'll be like, I'm not gonna run today, the wind's too much. And then I'm like, you know, and I'm like, I'm being like that. Sometimes I'm like, Sean, go. But I'm training for high rocks now, so now I am more oh yeah. I if that's turned my my brain on to be like, okay, it's not nice today, but you're fucking running. Yeah, but you even inspired and motivated me, and you didn't realize that. Followed you, ran into you at a water fountain. Yeah, what a what a crazy we're gonna be bros and you're gonna be on my podcast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, man. 100%. Proud of you.
SPEAKER_00And uh episode four, cocky and humble. Keep staying cockies, keep staying humble, and uh see you next time.
SPEAKER_01Awesome, bro. Fun, right, Dom? Dude, fun. Yeah, good time, dude, it's so good.